Ep:160 Bigfoot Livestream

<v Speaker 1>I'll like, here's two feet land like two three feet
<v Speaker 1>away from my head. So about sixty seconds later, my
<v Speaker 1>heart stops speeding so fast, and I can now hear
<v Speaker 1>it walking by my head. Right it's just ever so
<v Speaker 1>slightly just one foot you know, left or the other,
<v Speaker 1>kind of just crunching on the grass beside me. And
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, oh my god, Okay, this is real.
<v Speaker 1>What am I supposed to do here? I'm at a
<v Speaker 1>total disadvantage. I keep getting in and out of these
<v Speaker 1>fear modes and it keeps walking around me. And I
<v Speaker 1>finally decided like, okay, I'm just gonna turn and then
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna crack my head over my left shoulder and
<v Speaker 1>see if I can, you know, give it a glance
<v Speaker 1>at whatever this is. And yeah, it was a life
<v Speaker 1>change experience because I mean, I'm still in my head.
<v Speaker 1>I'm still there, and I'm still hearing.
<v Speaker 2>That this is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name is Matt, and
<v Speaker 2>joining me is Logan. Logan is an individual that was
<v Speaker 2>connected by a former guest on the show that has
<v Speaker 2>this interesting camera project going on, but he's also a bigfooter.
<v Speaker 2>So we're going to talk about all sorts of things
<v Speaker 2>this episode, Logan, thanks for joining me.
<v Speaker 1>Man, great to be here.
<v Speaker 2>So let's just start at the beginning. How did you
<v Speaker 2>get hooked up with Bigfoot?
<v Speaker 1>It was destiny. You know, my dad was always really
<v Speaker 1>into Coast to Coast when I was a kid, and
<v Speaker 1>he would tell me if stories about all the guess
<v Speaker 1>that came on that show. So it was always paranormal stuff,
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot stuff that was super interesting. So I kind of
<v Speaker 1>before podcasts got big, I always listened to that station,
<v Speaker 1>and so I was always pretty intrigued by Bigfoot and
<v Speaker 1>everything that was Bigfoot and always loved hearing all the stories.
<v Speaker 1>And then kind of when I got older and started
<v Speaker 1>finding podcasts, it was a little late to the podcast game.
<v Speaker 1>But twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, I started digging into podcast
<v Speaker 1>and I heard an individual say, hey, come out and
<v Speaker 1>if you don't believe me, come out and join me.
<v Speaker 1>I I've got this habituation site and all these things,
<v Speaker 1>and you know that just like, Okay, well, I really
<v Speaker 1>tired of being an arm armchair quarterback for Bigfoot? So
<v Speaker 1>how did you get out there and do this? So
<v Speaker 1>you know, this guy says, they're out there. I want
<v Speaker 1>to go out there and see see if they're real.
<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of where I started with it. So
<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been going out to this mainly this
<v Speaker 1>site for the last four five years now and having
<v Speaker 1>tons of activity, interactions and face evidence and you name it,
<v Speaker 1>close encounters. So that's kind of what started me on
<v Speaker 1>the roads big Foot.
<v Speaker 2>We're just going to tear the band aid off, if
<v Speaker 2>that's all right with you, Yeah, all right. So the
<v Speaker 2>individual you're talking about is a guy by the name
<v Speaker 2>of Todd Standing, and Todd is very controversial in the
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot world because Todd has put out some pretty amazing images,
<v Speaker 2>videos and claims, and everybody's pretty much divided. You know,
<v Speaker 2>you either think that the videos are real or you
<v Speaker 2>think that the videos are fake. You're a pretty smart guy, man,
<v Speaker 2>Where are you at with the whole thing? I mean,
<v Speaker 2>you've been to the property, You've called him on his bluff,
<v Speaker 2>so to speak. You know, he did put out the
<v Speaker 2>challenge and you answered, So what's the skinny?
<v Speaker 1>You know? I think Todd Todd pretty much tells people
<v Speaker 1>that I'm one of his biggest skeptics, Like I always
<v Speaker 1>analyze his evidence and overanalyze it and try to quantify it.
<v Speaker 1>So I'll put that out front that when I first
<v Speaker 1>went out there, I was more open minded and trying
<v Speaker 1>to see what was there than closed minded. So I just,
<v Speaker 1>you know, figured I did like at least two months
<v Speaker 1>of cursory research on his videos and tried to find
<v Speaker 1>debunk stuff and tried to find people that were talking
<v Speaker 1>about a lot of his stuff, and you know, there
<v Speaker 1>was there was good and bad and out there, but
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find anything that was like damning to me
<v Speaker 1>that said that his videos were like totally faked. I
<v Speaker 1>found a bunch of people saying, well, you hoaxed it,
<v Speaker 1>and it's taxidermy and it's a robot and it's this
<v Speaker 1>and that, and I'm like, well, I don't understand, like
<v Speaker 1>how you're how you like, where's the evidence for that?
<v Speaker 1>And so I I was more or less on the
<v Speaker 1>train of just trying to be out of mind when
<v Speaker 1>I went out there. But I couldn't find anything that
<v Speaker 1>was quote unquote, you know, just a silver bullet saying
<v Speaker 1>that this stuff he's doing is foxing right. So to me,
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well in it said until proven guilty, that's
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I just kind of want to see
<v Speaker 1>what he had I haven't heard anyone go out in
<v Speaker 1>public and say, if you don't believe me, come out here, right.
<v Speaker 1>Most hoaxers don't do that. They say, you know, leave
<v Speaker 1>it and don't try to find the evidence. That's what
<v Speaker 1>I did. And uh, from my standpoint, just knowing Todd
<v Speaker 1>and just knowing him as a person for the last
<v Speaker 1>four or five years, he's a really honest guy. I've
<v Speaker 1>listened to probably about almost every story he has to
<v Speaker 1>tell at this point, and he never like he'll be
<v Speaker 1>in the background. He never breaks the storyline, in my opinion,
<v Speaker 1>like it's always the same. He never over embellishes, and
<v Speaker 1>you know, he might forget like certain days or times
<v Speaker 1>like we all do. But I've never heard him, you know,
<v Speaker 1>go off the rails and kind of add more to
<v Speaker 1>his story. So I'll give him credit for that, but
<v Speaker 1>I think his evidence is genuine. That being said, if
<v Speaker 1>someone's out there that can, for a shadow of doubt
<v Speaker 1>prove that it's not, I'm open to listen to it.
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not in the Church of Todd at all, Definitely,
<v Speaker 1>I'm I am. I'm open to whatever people have to say,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't try to convince anyone that of his evidence,
<v Speaker 1>and I just try to follow the evidence and see
<v Speaker 1>where it leads me. So I try to go in
<v Speaker 1>that direction and you know, just see where it takes me.
<v Speaker 1>So I think his stuff is genuine, and uh, he's
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, he's a good guy. And I don't
<v Speaker 1>and and uh, you know, not not to put him
<v Speaker 1>down at all. Like like I said, he's a great guy,
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think he has the capability to to
<v Speaker 1>hoax this these videos, just kind of seeing the way
<v Speaker 1>he's organized. It takes a lot to be able to
<v Speaker 1>do something like that, and it's just not in his willhouse.
<v Speaker 1>He's just kind of a straight shooter, outdoorsman, tracker, wildlife guy,
<v Speaker 1>loves to work out, but he's not he's not a
<v Speaker 1>technical person. He's not an it guy, and he's definitely
<v Speaker 1>not a costume designer, robotics engineer, taxidermists, like he has
<v Speaker 1>no skill sets in those areas. And he's you know,
<v Speaker 1>he's not an organized person, right. It takes a lot
<v Speaker 1>of organization. Takes a lot of organization to do some
<v Speaker 1>a video like that. So I'm in the camp that,
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I said, if someone can come at
<v Speaker 1>me with real, real evidence, that says this is how
<v Speaker 1>he did it, and and I actually reproduce it, I'll
<v Speaker 1>definitely look at it.
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of at the point now with it all
<v Speaker 2>that I don't really care. I'm just saying if the
<v Speaker 2>videos or whatever are fake, if he has fake stuff
<v Speaker 2>in the past, that doesn't matter to me. The point
<v Speaker 2>is he does have an area that people go to
<v Speaker 2>that are like, You're so not necessarily connected to him
<v Speaker 2>in any way until they go there. And from everything
<v Speaker 2>that I've heard about the location is its idea habitat
<v Speaker 2>for these things. Assuming that they're out there in this area,
<v Speaker 2>they would be there and a lot of people that
<v Speaker 2>have gone have come away with experiences, and you're one
<v Speaker 2>of those people. So let's talk about that. What some
<v Speaker 2>of the experiences that you've had whenever you've been out there.
<v Speaker 1>I've had a little bit of everything, to be fair.
<v Speaker 1>The first trip out there was I mean, I saw
<v Speaker 1>and heard a lot of stuff. The second day I
<v Speaker 1>was there, we were at the gifting area and he
<v Speaker 1>was kind of just going over what his methodology is
<v Speaker 1>and kind of what he's experienced. At eleven am in
<v Speaker 1>the morning and we're talking about tree knocks and rock
<v Speaker 1>knocks and all these things, and we're putting these apples
<v Speaker 1>up like fifteen feet in this tree and pegging them
<v Speaker 1>down and he's going over, you know what it's you
<v Speaker 1>know what he thinks. Sennis was years ago, so his
<v Speaker 1>opinion may have changed of what some amazed knocks are,
<v Speaker 1>but he was thinking at the time they were like
<v Speaker 1>rock knocks, so like hitting the hitting the tree with
<v Speaker 1>a rock rather than a piece of wood, just because
<v Speaker 1>the sound that comes off of it is just so loud.
<v Speaker 1>He just didn't think you could reproduce that with the
<v Speaker 1>wood on wood. And so we ended up doing this
<v Speaker 1>rock knock on this tree that's one of the gifting trees,
<v Speaker 1>and just to just to show how hard it was
<v Speaker 1>and the sound it makes. And you know, we ended
<v Speaker 1>up listening for something. We just kind of sat there
<v Speaker 1>for about forty seconds and we got this huge bang
<v Speaker 1>callback and it was whatever we did five times louder.
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea how anything could make anything that loud,
<v Speaker 1>because it was i'd say, four hundred yards to the
<v Speaker 1>north of us, and it sounded like, I don't know
<v Speaker 1>how to explain it, but it's so loud. It was
<v Speaker 1>a definite response, and we we found evidence of like
<v Speaker 1>going in that direction, of these footprints going up the hill,
<v Speaker 1>and how far, how far set they were, and how
<v Speaker 1>they were in a perfect alignment going up this hill
<v Speaker 1>and there was no way. So you know, I've seen that.
<v Speaker 1>I've seen tracks there that are nineteen inches and links
<v Speaker 1>and six six inches wide and three inches deep in
<v Speaker 1>the in the substrate that is not and then substrate
<v Speaker 1>that's not moss. It's like hard ground, and it's it
<v Speaker 1>takes something over one thousand pounds to get into that
<v Speaker 1>and make that enging three feet in the ground where
<v Speaker 1>that location was so and I've never seen us I've
<v Speaker 1>never seen anything like it before. And we found it.
<v Speaker 1>He didn't like, he didn't lead us to this track.
<v Speaker 1>We were searching in the woods for facts, you know,
<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards of radius around his base camp, and
<v Speaker 1>me and another guy named Craig. Craig really found it.
<v Speaker 1>And I was founding finding these juvenile tracks that were
<v Speaker 1>probably thirty feet away, and he found this big monster
<v Speaker 1>track that Todd calls a boom track where they just
<v Speaker 1>hit the ground really hard and stomp. You know, there's
<v Speaker 1>only one track there. I guess it's a dominant thing.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I have no idea, but I mean, it's unless
<v Speaker 1>you're there looking at it. If you take a picture
<v Speaker 1>of it, you just can't like really see the awe
<v Speaker 1>of how big this thing is. But it's you know.
<v Speaker 1>And I've had experiences where we did coals and I've
<v Speaker 1>seen and I've heard trees get ripped down. Uh, We've
<v Speaker 1>li've taken the apples from the gifting tree that are
<v Speaker 1>the gifting area that we put out, and they've moved
<v Speaker 1>apples into different trees and spiked them into other trees
<v Speaker 1>that are even taller, and it makes no sense. They've
<v Speaker 1>taken other marbles, they moved rocks around, They've I've been
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of them whistling in between me and
<v Speaker 1>another person. And then I believe I've I've heard a
<v Speaker 1>lot of sounds out there, and I'm kind of like
<v Speaker 1>just kind of scouring over some of the top stuff
<v Speaker 1>that I can I can get into more of a
<v Speaker 1>scenario based things, But so I'm just trying to give
<v Speaker 1>a reference point for all the stuff that have happened
<v Speaker 1>out there with me. And I'd say it's about seventy
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of the time there's activity. There's only one
<v Speaker 1>time I went out there when there was really nothing right,
<v Speaker 1>and that's the time where I went up to I
<v Speaker 1>went and hiked up the mountain that he went up
<v Speaker 1>as Survivor Man in his series. So I wanted to
<v Speaker 1>get up that mountain and look at that tree where
<v Speaker 1>they took the apples and the power bars, and just
<v Speaker 1>give a reference point of where it was and how
<v Speaker 1>high it was and what it'd be easy to get
<v Speaker 1>up there. And I wanted to stay up there and
<v Speaker 1>see if the thing happened. And it's I get six
<v Speaker 1>to eight hour trek up this mountain and uh, you know,
<v Speaker 1>nothing happened. And I step up there on the side
<v Speaker 1>of the sixty five degree angle, and you know, I
<v Speaker 1>thought it was awesome, But I looked at this tree
<v Speaker 1>and there's just it's in It's like, you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>in the side of this mountain and it's on the
<v Speaker 1>edge of a cliff. So there's just no way that
<v Speaker 1>footage could have been baked or hoaxed or anything. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>I would never walk over there in the middle of
<v Speaker 1>the dark. You would fall right off. And it's like
<v Speaker 1>a two hundred foot drop and it's right on the
<v Speaker 1>edge and there's no other tree right beside of it.
<v Speaker 1>It's like upside down and planted it in the rock.
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make any sense. So to me, just seeing
<v Speaker 1>all that in that area was awesome, just knowing that, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that footage that survivor man caught on his on his motions,
<v Speaker 1>since sensored cameras were you know, it makes no sense
<v Speaker 1>how they could be there and then not be there
<v Speaker 1>unless they're extremely agile and can move quicker than the
<v Speaker 1>response time of that camera. So that's the only thing
<v Speaker 1>I can think of.
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask you about the apple thing. You
<v Speaker 2>said that some of the apples that you pegged to
<v Speaker 2>trees were moved to different trees and pegged.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, so we'll get kind of climbed these trees
<v Speaker 1>a bit or stand on each other's shoulders and put
<v Speaker 1>them on like you know, these and blunt pieces of
<v Speaker 1>the tree, and they'll be there. Was a few instances
<v Speaker 1>where we put them up in this one tree and
<v Speaker 1>then they removed twenty feet I guess it would be
<v Speaker 1>would it be, I guess it would be east and
<v Speaker 1>this tree was probably We probably put them up like
<v Speaker 1>ten feet in this one tree, and they moved them
<v Speaker 1>to a completely different tree like twenty feet in the
<v Speaker 1>air and they were stuck on branches. And I don't
<v Speaker 1>know any animals that would do that.
<v Speaker 2>No, how would a person do that in the middle
<v Speaker 2>of the night with other people around without anybody noticing.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I couldn't even climb that tree, Like, I don't
<v Speaker 1>know how they would do it. So to me, it's like,
<v Speaker 1>well that doesn't make any sense. How can these be moved?
<v Speaker 1>You know? And then they kind of do what they
<v Speaker 1>want with the apples, Like, like I said, I've been
<v Speaker 1>out there four or five times and they take them.
<v Speaker 1>I say forty percent of the time when I'm there, right,
<v Speaker 1>they just do what they want. They don't have any
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, they don't care about what we think.
<v Speaker 1>They're just like, well, I'll take them if I want to,
<v Speaker 1>or they're juveniles and they're just messing with us. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but but yeah, they definitely take them. And
<v Speaker 1>we can definitely tell if it's you know, like a
<v Speaker 1>bird or something pecking on a apple, we'll just take
<v Speaker 1>that off and throw it away if they sit out
<v Speaker 1>there too long, but they'll be completely gone, like nothing left, snow, peel, no,
<v Speaker 1>nothing on the ground, and they're pretty high up, so
<v Speaker 1>we know it's not like a deer anything like that
<v Speaker 1>trying to climb the street to get to them. And
<v Speaker 1>we'd see the way the substrate is around the trees.
<v Speaker 1>We'd see bear prints if it was some kind of bear,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it wouldn't make sense, there'd be some
<v Speaker 1>trace evidence of some animals trying to take it. It'd
<v Speaker 1>be at least some kind of rind on the ground
<v Speaker 1>or something. So yeah, it's it is what it is.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to explain it, but they're definitely
<v Speaker 1>taking on.
<v Speaker 2>Are you experiencing any stuff that kind of falls outside
<v Speaker 2>of the realm of I don't know, typical wildlife type behavior.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously bigfoot doesn't behave like typical wildlife, but
<v Speaker 2>I mean something of higher intelligence. Are you hearing talking?
<v Speaker 2>Is there any sorts of communication that you're witnessing taking place?
<v Speaker 2>You know, people talk about glyphs and things like that.
<v Speaker 2>Are you experiencing any of that stuff up there.
<v Speaker 1>I've been experienced glyphs myself. I know some other people
<v Speaker 1>that have been up there, including Todd, that they've moved
<v Speaker 1>some glyphs and put them somewhere else, And the people
<v Speaker 1>that have gone out there, have specifically put in certain
<v Speaker 1>types of rocks in certain types of places, and they'll
<v Speaker 1>be moved across space camp to another spot and put
<v Speaker 1>into like a circular pattern with that rock in the
<v Speaker 1>middle of it. Right. So things like that have happened,
<v Speaker 1>just not to me. I've done experiments with like like
<v Speaker 1>tennis balls and like, you know, things that are playful
<v Speaker 1>to see if maybe they'd if like I'll walk around
<v Speaker 1>during the day and just throw this blue tennis ball
<v Speaker 1>up in the air, right, and to see if they
<v Speaker 1>would notice me playing with this thing, and I leave
<v Speaker 1>it around base camp to see maybe if they'd take it, right,
<v Speaker 1>just the random spots, and they don't take it for me.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether.
<v Speaker 2>That's they just don't like you, right.
<v Speaker 1>Or if they just like I don't want to like
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't interest me, or you know, I have no idea,
<v Speaker 1>but they seem to like to take I know they've
<v Speaker 1>taken some marbles, and I know they've taken some other
<v Speaker 1>things that people have left that are more like homeopathic
<v Speaker 1>things like mushrooms and stuff like that that seem to
<v Speaker 1>be maybe of interest to them. But yeah, I've heard
<v Speaker 1>from other people that they like the color blue, or
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you know, they'll go out to a
<v Speaker 1>few and kick a ball around and then you know,
<v Speaker 1>other research will say that, and then they'll say the
<v Speaker 1>balls move the next day. So I'm just trying like
<v Speaker 1>different things that I hear other people. That works for
<v Speaker 1>the people, but it doesn't necessarily work for me as
<v Speaker 1>far as like like talking, I'd say there is some
<v Speaker 1>kind of form of communication. I haven't heard the chatter
<v Speaker 1>or the samurai stuff I've heard. And I have this
<v Speaker 1>on footage of during the middle of the day, they
<v Speaker 1>they just surrounded us and this twenty five we hear
<v Speaker 1>this really long winded owl is the best way I
<v Speaker 1>could describe it, And two minutes later there was these
<v Speaker 1>whoop hooots kind of like I don't I could tell
<v Speaker 1>you what the frequency is on some of it, but
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what it is up top of my head,
<v Speaker 1>but very interesting sounds. But it came from every direction
<v Speaker 1>around us, and it was coordinated. It was like north west, southeast, northwest.
<v Speaker 1>There was like five of them, and they all sounded
<v Speaker 1>off one after the other in a like a intelligent way,
<v Speaker 1>like kind of almost almost like saying with the other
<v Speaker 1>ones where they are almost, but it was interesting because
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard anything out out there do that, and
<v Speaker 1>it was the middle of the day and most anyway,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to explain it, but they were
<v Speaker 1>like these foods. And then we went out right after
<v Speaker 1>that into the forests and kind of set out there thinking, well, okay,
<v Speaker 1>well they're here, maybe they'll interact with us. And in
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, they did, because we set out there for
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes kind of just being still in quiet meditatoes,
<v Speaker 1>since you want to call it that, and Todd Todd
<v Speaker 1>saw something in front of him, and then another guy
<v Speaker 1>started filming in front of him when he said, I
<v Speaker 1>see you, and Todd got this I'd call it just
<v Speaker 1>a nasty video of like a weird blob. But the
<v Speaker 1>other guy to his left, he got this amazing footage
<v Speaker 1>of a bigfoot that's completely camouflaged. You can't see it
<v Speaker 1>at all until it moves, and it moves from the
<v Speaker 1>middle of the the middle of the screen when you're
<v Speaker 1>watching the video to the left and you see its legs.
<v Speaker 1>You see they're black, you see they're hairy, You see
<v Speaker 1>the foot. You can kind of see the top of
<v Speaker 1>the head a bit and a little bit of the
<v Speaker 1>body through the tree foliage, but you see the legs
<v Speaker 1>move and you see it just gradually move off from
<v Speaker 1>one side of the screen to the other, and it's
<v Speaker 1>right in front of this individual i'd say about sixty
<v Speaker 1>feet away from him, and he didn't know was it
<v Speaker 1>one bit And we didn't notice it on the footage
<v Speaker 1>some months later and it was I don't. I think
<v Speaker 1>it's really good evidence because I know it's not any
<v Speaker 1>of us, and it's definitely to me it looks like
<v Speaker 1>a smaller individual, juvenile. Maybe it's hard to tell because
<v Speaker 1>I need to get out there and measure exactly where
<v Speaker 1>it was, but yeah, it's It was pretty amazing, and
<v Speaker 1>I know for without any shadowed it out that that
<v Speaker 1>was a big foot and that we captured that on film,
<v Speaker 1>and I think Todd's gonna eventually just release it. Individual
<v Speaker 1>that filmed it, you know, he just pretty much he
<v Speaker 1>wants bigfoot to be discovered and he wants people to
<v Speaker 1>know that they're real. And he was out there to
<v Speaker 1>prove it to himself, like he was like eighty percent
<v Speaker 1>there and that tolt him over the edge. He was
<v Speaker 1>so happy that you guess how happy to find it
<v Speaker 1>and I was happy forums, like, yeah, I was excitic
<v Speaker 1>about it because it's it's definitely a big foot and
<v Speaker 1>it's literally right there in front of us. We didn't
<v Speaker 1>see it, so that tells me that if we didn't
<v Speaker 1>see one, we didn't probably see the other four that
<v Speaker 1>were around us.
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's typically how it works, right, Yeah, So
<v Speaker 2>whenever you're talking about things like they've taken marbles or
<v Speaker 2>they've taken the mushrooms, how do you know it's them
<v Speaker 2>taking it and not just like a raccoon or a
<v Speaker 2>crow or something like that.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know for sure. I'll preface that I can't
<v Speaker 1>say without one hundred percent doubt that it wasn't an animal.
<v Speaker 1>The only things around there are squirrels for the most part,
<v Speaker 1>and the location we put this or I didn't do it,
<v Speaker 1>another individual did. It was on this down tree that's
<v Speaker 1>really close to the base camp. It's probably, you know,
<v Speaker 1>fifteen feet away from anybody. And I've never seen any
<v Speaker 1>of those squirrels while I'm out there and or on footage,
<v Speaker 1>actually come into the actual centered part of base camp
<v Speaker 1>and actually kind of mosy through there. They usually always
<v Speaker 1>stay in the tree line. So it was the objects
<v Speaker 1>were bigger in nature, and the marble wasn't like a
<v Speaker 1>tiny marble. It was, you know, like one of those
<v Speaker 1>quarter sized ones. So it doesn't it doesn't make a
<v Speaker 1>lot of sense. But I can't, you know, I can't
<v Speaker 1>say definitively unless I had the camera pointed to it
<v Speaker 1>that it was. I just think the evidence correlates to it.
<v Speaker 2>Right. You told me a story of an experience you had.
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was at base camp, and I asked
<v Speaker 2>you if Todd was accounted for whenever it happened, and
<v Speaker 2>you said that he was asleep at the time. I
<v Speaker 2>think everybody was asleep and you had stayed up or
<v Speaker 2>you woke up or something.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is kind of what started me on
<v Speaker 1>the project, to be honest, like this whole this certain
<v Speaker 1>event started me on the next leg of my journey.
<v Speaker 1>So I this was in let's see, I think it
<v Speaker 1>was in the middle of twenty twenty three, and the
<v Speaker 1>whole time I was there, was kind of just wanting
<v Speaker 1>to urge to just stay outside on my own to
<v Speaker 1>see if I could get more interaction that way, because
<v Speaker 1>most people when they're out there, they stay in the group.
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to go off on their own. There
<v Speaker 1>are grizzlies out there, there's black bears, there's mountain lions.
<v Speaker 1>It's it really is baar country. I've seen probably five big,
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred pound grizzlies out there, and I've seen at
<v Speaker 1>least eight black bears. So it's not you know, it
<v Speaker 1>is it's in the middle of nowhere. It's sixty miles
<v Speaker 1>away from any town and pretty much in smack dab
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of these mountains. So and it's it's
<v Speaker 1>definitely just raw country out there. So people don't like
<v Speaker 1>to enter out from this camper that most people will
<v Speaker 1>sleep in, that's just really it's just a metal shell
<v Speaker 1>to protect them from you know, wildlife. So I more
<v Speaker 1>or less wanted to stay out under the stars, and
<v Speaker 1>it would drizzle some nights and wake up and it'd
<v Speaker 1>be damp, and I don't really want to sleep in
<v Speaker 1>the wet, So it just I kept trying to find
<v Speaker 1>spots to go. I couldn't really find. I couldn't really
<v Speaker 1>think of a great spot around there. I just decided,
<v Speaker 1>like two days before I was leaving, that I would
<v Speaker 1>just stay you know, by the fire outside and not
<v Speaker 1>sleep in the RB And so I just I slept
<v Speaker 1>by the fire and you know, just a sleeping bag
<v Speaker 1>and a pillow, and it was everyone else with the bed.
<v Speaker 1>It was about one o'clock in the morning. Another guy
<v Speaker 1>was with. His name is Dan. He he likes to
<v Speaker 1>just sit there with a knife and whittle some wood,
<v Speaker 1>so he just he kind of just likes doing that.
<v Speaker 1>So he was out there with me, and he was
<v Speaker 1>asking me if I mind if he sat out there
<v Speaker 1>for a while, and I didn't. I didn't mind, So
<v Speaker 1>he was out there, and then I woke up around
<v Speaker 1>three thirty and I looked over and he was passed
<v Speaker 1>out snoring in this lawn chair, was like five feet
<v Speaker 1>away from me. So he didn't even realize he fell
<v Speaker 1>asleep out there, and I wasn't gonna wake him, so
<v Speaker 1>I just said, okay, well I'll let him sleep. And
<v Speaker 1>then I you know, I was in and out of
<v Speaker 1>trying to sleep because I had a little bit of
<v Speaker 1>anxiousness thinking maybe I was get some interaction if I
<v Speaker 1>was out there about four. I say, somewhere between four
<v Speaker 1>and four thirty, Dan gets up, puts a log in
<v Speaker 1>the fire, and he goes inside of the RV. That's
<v Speaker 1>you know, thirty forty feet away, and he tells me
<v Speaker 1>good night, and then he doesn't say why he goes up.
<v Speaker 1>He didn't say why he got up, but later on
<v Speaker 1>in the morning after was talking to him about it,
<v Speaker 1>he said he got up because he's hearing a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of noise behind him and he didn't know what it
<v Speaker 1>was and it was making him scared. So yeah, that's nice. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so that's nice of him not to tell me. But
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's all good. So it's thirty minutes after
<v Speaker 1>he goes in. Of course, this is the only thirty
<v Speaker 1>minutes I've really truly been alone. And I'm out there
<v Speaker 1>and I'm halfway asleep, and I opened my eyes and
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a little after five, but the sun's coming
<v Speaker 1>up in this mountain time in the summer, so that
<v Speaker 1>the sun. There's not a lot of night time in
<v Speaker 1>the summer there, so I didn't know that. I thought
<v Speaker 1>it was like six thirty or seven, because I'm from Texas,
<v Speaker 1>and I see a little bit of a blue sky
<v Speaker 1>and a little bit of a dawn and I and
<v Speaker 1>I literally said it in my head. I said, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>well it's morning time. Then you know, I'm not going
<v Speaker 1>to get an interaction I can sleep better knowing, you know,
<v Speaker 1>nothing's going to happen. So I literally roll on my
<v Speaker 1>back and I'm at an angle towards the fire. You know,
<v Speaker 1>it's a pit, so there's kind of like this hill
<v Speaker 1>around this pit. And I lay on my back and
<v Speaker 1>I put my hands on my chest and right when
<v Speaker 1>I do that, this big foot apparently it was right
<v Speaker 1>behind me staring me down, strying to figure me out
<v Speaker 1>on why I'm outside, and it jumps backwards and I'll like,
<v Speaker 1>here's two feet land like two three feet away from
<v Speaker 1>my head. Like I scared it enough when I turned
<v Speaker 1>that it jumped backwards and jolted, and I was more
<v Speaker 1>or less in a state of I don't know. I'd
<v Speaker 1>call it fear because I was halfway asleep and not
<v Speaker 1>expecting it, and my heart was beating really fast, and
<v Speaker 1>I had my right eye that was farther away from
<v Speaker 1>this individual kind of cracked, and my one that was
<v Speaker 1>the my left eye that was closer to him was
<v Speaker 1>all the way shut because I didn't really know what
<v Speaker 1>to do. Well. I can see is a little bit
<v Speaker 1>of blue coming into one eye and the other eye
<v Speaker 1>was all the way and I was trying to get
<v Speaker 1>my heart stop beating, and it's so I just said
<v Speaker 1>in my head, like I need to calm down and
<v Speaker 1>make sure I heard what I heard. So about sixty
<v Speaker 1>seconds later, my heart stops beating so fast, and I
<v Speaker 1>can now hear it walking by my head. Right. It's
<v Speaker 1>just ever so slightly, just one foot you know, left
<v Speaker 1>for the other, kind of just crunching on the grass
<v Speaker 1>beside me. And I'm just like, oh my god, okay,
<v Speaker 1>this is real. What am I supposed to do here?
<v Speaker 1>I'm at a total disadvantage. I'm at an angle, laying
<v Speaker 1>on my back. I don't have any weapons, I don't
<v Speaker 1>have anything, right, so I'm thinking in my head what
<v Speaker 1>could this be to be a bear? I'm like, no,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, because I only hear two feet.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just going over at my head. I'm just say, okay,
<v Speaker 1>I am hearing this. This is real. What do I do?
<v Speaker 1>And I, you know, I keep getting in and out
<v Speaker 1>of these fear modes and it keeps walking around me,
<v Speaker 1>and I finally decided like, okay, I'm just gonna turn
<v Speaker 1>towards the fire so I don't startle this thing, and
<v Speaker 1>then I'm gonna crack my head over my left shoulder
<v Speaker 1>and see if I can, you know, give it a
<v Speaker 1>glance of whatever this is. And by the time I
<v Speaker 1>did that, it it basically just, you know, Ninja vanished.
<v Speaker 1>I don't explain it. I don't know where it went.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear it. Leaves, like I said, they are
<v Speaker 1>super agile, and I mean, the only reason I could
<v Speaker 1>even hear it walking on the grounds because it was
<v Speaker 1>right beside my head and it was such a light
<v Speaker 1>stuff and such a white split. It was really graceful.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't I don't know what to say about
<v Speaker 1>other than that was like the closest I've ever been
<v Speaker 1>to one. Besides there was another time where I think
<v Speaker 1>we might intrigued one. But but it's yeah, it was
<v Speaker 1>a life change experience because I mean, I'm still in
<v Speaker 1>my head, I'm still there and I'm still hearing that.
<v Speaker 1>So that kind of put me towards the live stream
<v Speaker 1>project I've been working on for the last two years
<v Speaker 1>or a year and a half.
<v Speaker 2>How close do you think it was to you?
<v Speaker 1>I mean probably two seat I may it was close,
<v Speaker 1>like I heard it, and I know I can you
<v Speaker 1>can tell when someone's close to you and when you
<v Speaker 1>know it was. It was, so it was definitely close
<v Speaker 1>to me. And if I had the gumption to actually
<v Speaker 1>look and not be as fearful as I was, I
<v Speaker 1>probably got a high school of And I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if I don't know how what it took me to
<v Speaker 1>be honest, I didn't. I was trying to figure out
<v Speaker 1>if it knew I was awake or if you know.
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to almost mind speaking, a sense of like, well,
<v Speaker 1>if these things know what you're thinking, then it knows
<v Speaker 1>I'm awake. And I was like, I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>it does or not, So I don't know. There's lots
<v Speaker 1>of thoughts that went through my head. So yeah, it
<v Speaker 1>is what it is. So next time that does happen
<v Speaker 1>to me, I'm definitely going to the look. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>I just was not expecting it, slowly caught off guard.
<v Speaker 2>I experienced something very similar one time, but I was
<v Speaker 2>inside a tent, and uh, I know, it's just a
<v Speaker 2>thin tent wall, but for some reason, that feels like
<v Speaker 2>way more protection than just being out in a sleeping bag.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can see how that that would do that.
<v Speaker 2>But I also experienced, like, I mean, whenever I heard
<v Speaker 2>this thing, it was taking those same steps that you're
<v Speaker 2>talking about, just those real methodical, slow, purposeful steps trying
<v Speaker 2>to be quiet. And it was right by my head,
<v Speaker 2>right outside the tent. I heard a bunch of stuff.
<v Speaker 2>I told the story a bunch, but whenever I did
<v Speaker 2>eventually work up the courage to come out of the tent,
<v Speaker 2>it was just that whole an enja vanish thing like
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about. I didn't hear anything, run off, nothing,
<v Speaker 2>It was just poof gone.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are good at what they do. I'll give
<v Speaker 1>them that, masters of their environments.
<v Speaker 2>So you mentioned this live streaming project that you're working on.
<v Speaker 2>What were the obstacles, like, what has been the issues
<v Speaker 2>in your mind that we haven't already gotten all these
<v Speaker 2>videos from game cams and security cams and whatever, and
<v Speaker 2>how did you go about solving those issues.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of here to say that people
<v Speaker 1>say that they get scared from Rosenga game cams, like
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's possible, but like it's not to me,
<v Speaker 1>it's not proven, right. I think game cams can be
<v Speaker 1>pretty visual and you can tell where they are, and
<v Speaker 1>especially if you know the environment or if you see
<v Speaker 1>someone put it up like it's it's going to be
<v Speaker 1>noticeable to something that knows the area and the forest.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't really know for sure, But so as
<v Speaker 1>far as that goes, I mean, game cams they're just
<v Speaker 1>like since you know, they go off based off of
<v Speaker 1>motion right for the most part, and there is a
<v Speaker 1>there is the way, and they only they're only as
<v Speaker 1>good as you know. I know there's some that will
<v Speaker 1>buffer and some of the motion, but you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>not a continuous feed. It's it's it's not and now
<v Speaker 1>you can't see what happened throughout the day. I want
<v Speaker 1>something that I can see twenty four hours a day
<v Speaker 1>of everything that happened in the area start to finish.
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's one things. As far as game cams do,
<v Speaker 1>you know, then there's a lot of good ones out
<v Speaker 1>there and their technology is getting really good, and there's
<v Speaker 1>nothing against game cams, but they just won't do what
<v Speaker 1>I need them to do because I need I need
<v Speaker 1>them to be basically closed loops security cameras that can
<v Speaker 1>feed to the public. So game cameras really aren't designed
<v Speaker 1>that way. They're designed to be fed to whoever put
<v Speaker 1>the person there, and they're not solely adequate, and they're
<v Speaker 1>really designed for you know, wildlife and deer and whatever
<v Speaker 1>hunters are trying to hunt, right right, they're not designed
<v Speaker 1>for They're not designed for big foot. So that's what
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do is design something around the big
<v Speaker 1>foot phenomenon and like how to do it, how to
<v Speaker 1>go about it. So and people when they put out
<v Speaker 1>cameras and they do research, you know, it's hard to
<v Speaker 1>do that, and it's hard to find habituation areas. And
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of these people that are on TV,
<v Speaker 1>they'll go to some place for you know, maybe a
<v Speaker 1>day or two, three at the most, and you know
<v Speaker 1>they're just hoping for the best in those three days
<v Speaker 1>and they leave right you know, three, I mean, that's
<v Speaker 1>not a long time to research, and you know they
<v Speaker 1>could not even be in the area, and you don't
<v Speaker 1>even know what's going to happen. So it's kind of
<v Speaker 1>you got that. And you have the people that are
<v Speaker 1>really into the subject and they have full time jobs,
<v Speaker 1>and you know they'll go on the weekend and see
<v Speaker 1>what they get, but you know that's probably a Saturday
<v Speaker 1>and it's the weekend kind of warrior and and then
<v Speaker 1>they're funger for the next time you get to go
<v Speaker 1>out right. So it's not it's not the best way
<v Speaker 1>to research. Like you got to get you got to
<v Speaker 1>be out there all the time. You got to be
<v Speaker 1>out there for months and months and months until you
<v Speaker 1>figure out, you know, what's going on. So that's kind
<v Speaker 1>of my thought process. After I had the interaction, I
<v Speaker 1>was telling Todd, I'm like, you know, we really got
<v Speaker 1>to get based like cameras and base camp, like these
<v Speaker 1>things are. I mean, the literally came up to me
<v Speaker 1>twenty feet from this RV and they didn't care. Like
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's technology all over the RV. If you
<v Speaker 1>really want to look at it as technology. There wasn't cameras,
<v Speaker 1>but I mean feeling intellectual equipment. There's some solar stuff.
<v Speaker 1>There's a little bit of everything. So I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if they know what a camera is. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>any of that, and I don't think anyone really does.
<v Speaker 1>They just kind of think they know everything. So I said, well,
<v Speaker 1>let's let's put some cameras up, but let's just do
<v Speaker 1>it right, let's get it to where I mean. Todd's
<v Speaker 1>always like he wants to discovery done. He wants people
<v Speaker 1>to know it so let's let's get the discovery done
<v Speaker 1>and let's let people know it, but let's share it
<v Speaker 1>with everyone. Right. So that's what I started doing the
<v Speaker 1>end of twenty twenty three is figuring out how I
<v Speaker 1>could do that and what it would take, and the
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure and the right cameras and the right protocols and
<v Speaker 1>the right architecture and the right power load and everything else,
<v Speaker 1>and the right how do I build a way to
<v Speaker 1>make it where people can log in and view this
<v Speaker 1>lot these live streams? And how do I do it
<v Speaker 1>at costs that's not going to break me? And all
<v Speaker 1>these things, right, So there's a million different things that
<v Speaker 1>I'm not an expert in that I have to learn
<v Speaker 1>to be an expert in. But my background is in
<v Speaker 1>IT engineering, so I have a lot of IT skills
<v Speaker 1>less power DCAC conversion like skill sets like I you know,
<v Speaker 1>I had to learn all this stuff as I go.
<v Speaker 1>So there's just a lot to it. And you know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a camera man either.
<v Speaker 2>Right to start with, was there anything on the consumer
<v Speaker 2>market readily available that you could just buy and implement
<v Speaker 2>into this system?
<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of cameras out there, but I
<v Speaker 1>really wanted it to be the most simplistic, high resolution,
<v Speaker 1>less of a hack job that I could get, right,
<v Speaker 1>So I wanted something off the shelf, but I also
<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be compatible with my infrastructure to where
<v Speaker 1>I could push the feed over starlink and go to
<v Speaker 1>the right back end, and I where I don't have
<v Speaker 1>to convert the stream from one protocol to another, so
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to do all these like middle tier things.
<v Speaker 1>So really I spent a month just looking for the
<v Speaker 1>right camera that was affordable, had a microphone, had a
<v Speaker 1>tilt tilt pan zoom capability, had high like close to
<v Speaker 1>four K resolution, had the capability to me remotely manage it,
<v Speaker 1>you know, all these functionalities that most cameras don't, right.
<v Speaker 1>So I finally found what I needed, and I bought one,
<v Speaker 1>and then about another one, and then about another one
<v Speaker 1>just fulfilled testing. And they're they're extremely good cameras, and
<v Speaker 1>they're really durable, and they're waterproof, and they're high high temperature,
<v Speaker 1>load temperature, you know, they're really good rated and I
<v Speaker 1>sixty five, sixty seven, whatever you want to call it,
<v Speaker 1>they're they're really good cameras. I can't say the American Maid,
<v Speaker 1>but they're good cameras. So I started with that and
<v Speaker 1>then and I kind of just build everything around it,
<v Speaker 1>and I, like I said, I tested it at my
<v Speaker 1>home and put them all up around and was playing
<v Speaker 1>with them in my office for months and trying to
<v Speaker 1>get the settings right and the fine tuning and manage
<v Speaker 1>them to these two by sixes and would put them
<v Speaker 1>outside and test the r IR at night and test
<v Speaker 1>how they stream and video quality and everything else. Right,
<v Speaker 1>So all that said, all that being said, those are
<v Speaker 1>the first ones I implemented in twenty twenty four when
<v Speaker 1>I put it out and released the app and did
<v Speaker 1>all that was I had too to these relatively good cameras.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's there's better cameras out there, but you know,
<v Speaker 1>they're ten twenty thousand dollars, right, so I'm trying to
<v Speaker 1>make it affordable at least for the first go around.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mean I got a lot of good
<v Speaker 1>evidence for them. They really are are probably i'd say
<v Speaker 1>five ten times better than any kind of ring or
<v Speaker 1>doorbell camera if you want to compare it to that.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, they they get the job done. But
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm I'm always looking towards to see what I
<v Speaker 1>can do and other other systems, but I know these
<v Speaker 1>are reliable and they've done me well. So I I
<v Speaker 1>have those and I've actually upgraded them to the latest
<v Speaker 1>version and the latest everything and added external mics to them.
<v Speaker 1>I did a whole bunch of tweaking as far as
<v Speaker 1>configuration and iris and shutter settings. But yeah, they're you know,
<v Speaker 1>they get the job done, and I think that's as
<v Speaker 1>far as the camera system goes. That's what I have.
<v Speaker 1>But on the on the back end, and like I said,
<v Speaker 1>I do automation and engineering and I've I've worked in
<v Speaker 1>that field for like twenty years as far as computer
<v Speaker 1>information systems and stuff like that, so I do have
<v Speaker 1>a background in the area. So I know kind of
<v Speaker 1>the the buzzwords and what people do these days. And
<v Speaker 1>I'm a no means an expert. And there's a lot
<v Speaker 1>of really really smart people out there in technology. So
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I'm anywhere near some of these people,
<v Speaker 1>because there's some brilliant people out there. So I just,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I just have a vision and drive to
<v Speaker 1>get it done. So that's what I do. That's just
<v Speaker 1>how I operate. So and then the back end, though,
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying is I'm trying to build and
<v Speaker 1>this is what no one else is doing. I'm trying
<v Speaker 1>to build data points off of the entire feed and
<v Speaker 1>build a history of sounds and movement and everything else
<v Speaker 1>and build an actual machine learned data model that I
<v Speaker 1>can put together eventually that I could run into the
<v Speaker 1>system and actually implement. So I'm building all the data
<v Speaker 1>points and nobody's really doing that. I'm basically parsing all
<v Speaker 1>of this, all the video in two our chunks, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for certain frequency, certain amplitude, certain movements. And
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really uh, it's my individual way of doing it,
<v Speaker 1>but and it's self built. But I'm using the technology
<v Speaker 1>that most data scientists and even like uh the software
<v Speaker 1>and uh some of the models and some of the
<v Speaker 1>modules that machine learning people use for motion sensing and
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that and vision, you know, vision for self
<v Speaker 1>driving cars and stuff like that. So I'm using all
<v Speaker 1>those technologies that people that are really you know, smart
<v Speaker 1>people are using. I'm just I'm just I'm just using
<v Speaker 1>and focusing in towards big food. So that's what I've
<v Speaker 1>I'm using all those scripts. So I'm basically running all
<v Speaker 1>that against the data, and I'm building timelines on a database,
<v Speaker 1>and all this will be eventually available in the app
<v Speaker 1>where people can go and dig at this graph where
<v Speaker 1>they see all the movement and amplitude spikes and frequencies
<v Speaker 1>and all these things, and they can actually go look
<v Speaker 1>at every end of the individual point without having to
<v Speaker 1>watch the entire feed and go and try to and
<v Speaker 1>find the find all those things. Right. But it's all
<v Speaker 1>that being said, we still need people's eyes. Right. A
<v Speaker 1>computer can't tell you. It only tell you what it
<v Speaker 1>what it knows, and it doesn't know for sure, So
<v Speaker 1>we still need people to actually watch all these data points.
<v Speaker 1>So we still need a whole community of people watching
<v Speaker 1>these streams and seeing, you know, because nothing's perfect, Like
<v Speaker 1>they could see something that all these different algorithms and
<v Speaker 1>parsing engines I'm building aren't aren't seeing, right. So really,
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm trying to do is build a whole
<v Speaker 1>architecture network of camera systems and people and collaborators who
<v Speaker 1>we can put out there in the field and these
<v Speaker 1>hotspots and really get some science involved without having to have,
<v Speaker 1>you know, some weird grant we're paying someone hash million
<v Speaker 1>dollars ago say out in the woods, that's probably not
<v Speaker 1>going to be as scientific as I'm being. They're probably
<v Speaker 1>going to sit out there with a couple of things
<v Speaker 1>and try to replicate what I'm doing. So to me,
<v Speaker 1>it's a scientific pro you know, everyone says there's no data.
<v Speaker 1>Well let's get data. Let's build a model, let's see
<v Speaker 1>if we can use it, and then then let's share
<v Speaker 1>it with the entire public, and let's get everyone engaged
<v Speaker 1>and collaborated, and let's have the public actually do the analysis.
<v Speaker 1>Right Like, let's all the people that are interested interested
<v Speaker 1>in bigfoot. I'm giving them an opportunity to actually be
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot researchers.
<v Speaker 2>From anywhere, from anywhere, twenty four hours a day, seven
<v Speaker 2>days a week.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. And that's that's the dream. That's my goal. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I want it. I want this
<v Speaker 1>discovery to happen, and I want people to know that
<v Speaker 1>they're real, and I want people that are really interested
<v Speaker 1>in the subject to you know, not just go off
<v Speaker 1>my word, to really dig into the data, because I
<v Speaker 1>mean that's pretty much what I did. I just started
<v Speaker 1>digging at it, and I keep finding more and more evidence.
<v Speaker 1>That's sporting towards. These are you know, I think there
<v Speaker 1>are people, but they're definitely real, right and if that's
<v Speaker 1>if that's true, then the world needs to know it
<v Speaker 1>and it needs to be you know, actualized into reality here.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't see why anyone would want
<v Speaker 1>to but hold that information from the world, like I
<v Speaker 1>think we need to know it.
<v Speaker 2>I was involved in a project years ago. It was
<v Speaker 2>a research project on private property done in Texas, and
<v Speaker 2>the cameras were you know, fed into a VCR basically
<v Speaker 2>and ran for hours and hours and hours, and then
<v Speaker 2>you would have to you know, review the tapes manually
<v Speaker 2>looking for anything because the cameras were just running, you know,
<v Speaker 2>recording everything NonStop. I don't think all of the tapes
<v Speaker 2>were ever fully gone over. There was just so many
<v Speaker 2>hours of tape to go over that there was just
<v Speaker 2>not enough manpower to do it. And you're solving that
<v Speaker 2>problem with these data points and the machine learning to
<v Speaker 2>basically you're training it to recognize parameters that a bigfoot
<v Speaker 2>might fall under, mark it on the footage, and then
<v Speaker 2>somebody will be able to log in, see the data points,
<v Speaker 2>go to that point in the footage and check it out.
<v Speaker 2>And see what it actually was.
<v Speaker 1>They can do that. I basically build it, Like I said,
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little much, but I basically build it for
<v Speaker 1>like on demand video for the last two weeks of
<v Speaker 1>every single stream I'm going to put out is going
<v Speaker 1>to be out there for anyone to watch the entire
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, because that's about the best I can do
<v Speaker 1>as far as you know, continuousness and cost effectiveness without
<v Speaker 1>basically making me go bankrupt.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot that's a lot of data.
<v Speaker 1>The more people that actually get engaged, the more data
<v Speaker 1>I could keep that's not stagnant. I'm still going to
<v Speaker 1>keep the data on the back end for six probably
<v Speaker 1>at the minimum, six months before I put it in
<v Speaker 1>what I call cold storage to where it's it takes
<v Speaker 1>long archer retrieve and this is all just cloud services
<v Speaker 1>that I'm using. But you know, and then eventually I
<v Speaker 1>can't keep it forever, so eventually I'll have to wipe
<v Speaker 1>it out and keep going because it's going to just
<v Speaker 1>be terabytes and terabytes and terabytes.
<v Speaker 2>Data, right.
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm putting that out there. I'm gonna,
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I'm writing the framework for all the
<v Speaker 1>graphing and data points right now. So right now, it's
<v Speaker 1>really the live streams, it's the video on demand. It's
<v Speaker 1>if anyone actually sees anything, they can report it on
<v Speaker 1>the app and it goes to another database, super siding Reports,
<v Speaker 1>And right now I can I can just pull it
<v Speaker 1>up and post whatever they reported and snippets and put
<v Speaker 1>it into the actual app itself and another section where
<v Speaker 1>it's just called like user sidings, right but I have
<v Speaker 1>a handful of stuff on there for easier sidings. You know,
<v Speaker 1>last year was a proof of concepts, like we had
<v Speaker 1>to get all the bugs out, we had to figure
<v Speaker 1>out the power, we got to figure out everything. And
<v Speaker 1>this is for off grid. Right on grid system is
<v Speaker 1>a totally different animal. It's a whole lot less on
<v Speaker 1>me as far as financial and I don't have to
<v Speaker 1>build this whole architected off grid direct current power system
<v Speaker 1>that works off of high end batteries and high end
<v Speaker 1>solar equipment and high end everything and the right voltage.
<v Speaker 1>But I could go on and on. But so I'm
<v Speaker 1>trying to get the flagship for off grade because I
<v Speaker 1>know we need it. But also I'm really open to
<v Speaker 1>people that have the situation sites where they have power
<v Speaker 1>where I don't have to spend an extra three or
<v Speaker 1>four thousand dollars just to implement a off grade system,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, just set up the camera system the
<v Speaker 1>way it is direct AC power and then it's kind
<v Speaker 1>of plug and play at this point how I architected,
<v Speaker 1>but it's you know, I'm looking for those people that
<v Speaker 1>are have a frequency, could be once a month, could
<v Speaker 1>be you know, once every two months, but some kind
<v Speaker 1>of frequency of interaction or sighting or sounds or something
<v Speaker 1>to where they're coming up to their homestead or their
<v Speaker 1>you know, a campsite or their homes, their summer home,
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and putting up camera systems out there,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they're not necessarily going to be connected
<v Speaker 1>to their house directly. I can run things three hundred
<v Speaker 1>feet off just the way I've architected. I could probably
<v Speaker 1>run five hundred five hundred feet off if I wanted to,
<v Speaker 1>But right now I'm doing like a three hundred foot limitation,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I it is what it is, and
<v Speaker 1>every single stream I put up is not free to me.
<v Speaker 1>So everyone needs to be meaningful because I need to
<v Speaker 1>have real sits with real people that are really trying
<v Speaker 1>to figure this out. That have real interactions. I don't
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in just putting stuff out and saying, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is a big Foot area and yeah, watching videos
<v Speaker 1>of nonsense in the middle of the woods. Right. So
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to find the right right people to work
<v Speaker 1>with that, you know, because I know there's a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people out there. I know there's a lot of
<v Speaker 1>organizations out there, a lot of people working on this,
<v Speaker 1>but it's trying to find the right people to work
<v Speaker 1>with that are open minded and the ones that really
<v Speaker 1>want to collaborate and actually want to push this forward
<v Speaker 1>and not just kind of put their own ego in
<v Speaker 1>front of it and say, well, I'm gonna get it done.
<v Speaker 1>Because I said I'm gonna get it done, and I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna go do it, and you know, I'm not going
<v Speaker 1>to share it with anyone. So, you know, I don't
<v Speaker 1>think that's going to get this bigfoot. You know, phenomenon discovered.
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be. It's going to be a bunch
<v Speaker 1>of people working together, right, it has to be. And
<v Speaker 1>I'm only one person and I'm trying to architect all this.
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'm actively reaching out to people for help.
<v Speaker 1>I've got some people in Pennsylvania that are actively trying
<v Speaker 1>to find me sites and are really helpful and awesome people.
<v Speaker 1>I've got some other podcasters that I know that are
<v Speaker 1>you know, doing their best to help. But you know,
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to find good, honest people that have
<v Speaker 1>a frequency right that are willing to and in this
<v Speaker 1>where you know, it's not really costs to them, because
<v Speaker 1>I'm covering all the costs, but it's you know a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people care about their privacy and some of
<v Speaker 1>those matters, and so there's just a lot to it.
<v Speaker 2>I was just going to say, if somebody is listening
<v Speaker 2>that definitely has an area, you know, private property where
<v Speaker 2>they know that bigfoot activity is taking place on a
<v Speaker 2>regular basis, if they're interested in having you install this
<v Speaker 2>camera system on their property, what does that actually mean
<v Speaker 2>for them? What are they going to have to do?
<v Speaker 2>Are they going to have to you know, do maintenance
<v Speaker 2>on the camera or what are their responsibilities with it?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if something did happen, maybe I'd ask them
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit of helpe to go, you know,
<v Speaker 1>look at something for me, But other than that, it
<v Speaker 1>would just be me coming there right now, It's just
<v Speaker 1>going to be me until I can get some more
<v Speaker 1>people to work with me, and it's kind of teaching
<v Speaker 1>them how to do some of this stuff, but me
<v Speaker 1>going out there and doing the insulation, setting everything up.
<v Speaker 1>Really it's just utilizing their property. And if you know,
<v Speaker 1>if I'm using their their power, I would you know,
<v Speaker 1>offset whatever cost it is I'm taking. It shouldn't be
<v Speaker 1>very much, to be fair, it's probably only one hundred
<v Speaker 1>and I've optimized it to where it's about one hundred
<v Speaker 1>and fifty watts of power. It's about three three thousand
<v Speaker 1>kilobots to day. And then I'm you know, if they
<v Speaker 1>don't have Internet, I'm putting a starlink out there, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm paying for it. You know, they could use the Internet.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's really just me almost you know, being
<v Speaker 1>a tenant on our property trying to find big Foot
<v Speaker 1>and every now and then maybe if something goes down,
<v Speaker 1>asking if they could just go look at something, and
<v Speaker 1>then they kind of get in a sense, they kind
<v Speaker 1>of get a close closed loop security system around their property.
<v Speaker 1>And one I know what it will get for the Internet,
<v Speaker 1>or you know, they would I would give them. I
<v Speaker 1>would own I'd own the footage, but I'd give them
<v Speaker 1>whatever they wanted as far as footage, as far as
<v Speaker 1>if they wanted all the data collected, that'd give it
<v Speaker 1>all to them, all the video, everything that I had,
<v Speaker 1>as long as it wasn't kicked off and deleted if
<v Speaker 1>it was been there for a while. So really it's
<v Speaker 1>more about you know, people being comfortable with it. And
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of private people that more
<v Speaker 1>or less I think, I'm trying to put cameras on
<v Speaker 1>the edge of their house, and it's more of like,
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather run it in the edge of the woods
<v Speaker 1>if you have woods, and put it into some tree lines, right,
<v Speaker 1>and not have it directly pointed at him, or you know,
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be cameras, there's going to be audio.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're not trying to capture footage of them.
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to capture footage of the bigfoot on their property.
<v Speaker 1>Right. The further away from the actual home as they
<v Speaker 1>live in the home, the better because that gives less,
<v Speaker 1>you know, people sounds, less, less garbage to sort through,
<v Speaker 1>less you know, ambiguousness of people just making whatever sounds
<v Speaker 1>to do during the day. So I mean that's really
<v Speaker 1>what it is. That's like I said, it's just find
<v Speaker 1>the right people and the right people to collaborate with.
<v Speaker 1>And if I had and this is just me, if
<v Speaker 1>I had property and I had a constant you know activity,
<v Speaker 1>to me, this would be like the dream solution to
<v Speaker 1>prove that I'm not crazy. Right.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, there's there's a lot of people that are looking,
<v Speaker 2>you know, for that day where they can say, see,
<v Speaker 2>I told you I wasn't crazy. This is really happening,
<v Speaker 2>and you're helping provide that opportunity.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So yeah, I mean that's you know, I Other
<v Speaker 1>than that, I might just get him to sign a
<v Speaker 1>piece of paper saying you know, you're not gonna throw
<v Speaker 1>my equipment in the river somewhere.
<v Speaker 2>Other than that, you're not gonna pawn the star link. Right,
<v Speaker 2>you talked about having the capabilities to set it basically
<v Speaker 2>three hundred feet away from the power source. What kind
<v Speaker 2>of range does the camera itself have?
<v Speaker 1>They have basically a nine optical zoom, So I could
<v Speaker 1>get nine hundred feet away from where you actually mounted
<v Speaker 1>and actually be full optical zoom close to about three
<v Speaker 1>point five K, not full four K. And yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>can do that, and the so the IR will work
<v Speaker 1>as well. About probably half that distance for about four
<v Speaker 1>hundred feet optical zoom because it has four different irs
<v Speaker 1>on it as far as lighting goes, so it's built.
<v Speaker 1>It's built for that. And I also have it sets
<v Speaker 1>where if we just have it not zoomed in and
<v Speaker 1>turn we can turn the R off and test all
<v Speaker 1>of that functionality and it'd be a really amazing picture
<v Speaker 1>with a little bit of moonlight. It would look almost
<v Speaker 1>like daytime with no ir on. Because I know there's
<v Speaker 1>the camp of people that say, well, ire series them away. Well,
<v Speaker 1>now let's I can turn it off because I've tested it.
<v Speaker 1>It works. I know other people that have tested it
<v Speaker 1>and it works so and they've done it with these
<v Speaker 1>smaller cameras and I was like, okay, well if they
<v Speaker 1>can do it with that cheaper OFFICELL camera, I know
<v Speaker 1>I can do it with this one. So I figured
<v Speaker 1>it out and did it. And so I can have
<v Speaker 1>a camera with IR on. I can I can program
<v Speaker 1>it to come on when the moon is on and
<v Speaker 1>the moon cycle right, so it can be program you know,
<v Speaker 1>programmed and done as far as i R goes. And
<v Speaker 1>then the other thing that's really cool, Like I said,
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to work with people, and there's a lot
<v Speaker 1>of I wouldn't say a lot, there's a handful of
<v Speaker 1>people I'm working with that are really interested in the
<v Speaker 1>subject and passionate about the discovery. And I've been really
<v Speaker 1>wanting to get thermal engaged and have like three reference
<v Speaker 1>points of data audio, regular optical video, and then thermal
<v Speaker 1>as well. So I'm sitting next to this extremely it's
<v Speaker 1>a basically buy. It does optical and thermal at the
<v Speaker 1>same time, and it's a really extensive thermal camera that
<v Speaker 1>has a network capable and it has all the right
<v Speaker 1>protocols that I need. So I'm literally taking that thing
<v Speaker 1>out of the box today and been playing with it
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna do I'm gonna field test it tonight,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to bring it up to Pennsylvania next
<v Speaker 1>week and set it out on a site as long
<v Speaker 1>as along with the other camera and had two different
<v Speaker 1>cameras going out of Pennsylvania site. And I don't think
<v Speaker 1>anyone's done that as far as a full thermal twenty
<v Speaker 1>four to seven feed of an area as well as
<v Speaker 1>optical and audio of a bigfoot known bigfoot area. So
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty excited about that because I don't think, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone's doing that. I think most people
<v Speaker 1>just have the monoculars they're looking through trying to figure.
<v Speaker 2>Out what kind of range does the thermal unit have.
<v Speaker 1>It's really good for what it is, I'd say, I
<v Speaker 1>want to say it said one hundred or two hundred
<v Speaker 1>feet into the woods. I don't know. I have to
<v Speaker 1>feel tested to see if that's highly accurate or not.
<v Speaker 1>It does have zoom functionality, but like I said, I'm
<v Speaker 1>still filled testing it. But you know, to me having
<v Speaker 1>some form of thermal instead of having no thermal, and
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to a military vendor it sells thermal and
<v Speaker 1>I'm still talking to them. They want probably five times more.
<v Speaker 1>But their camera, of course, is amazing, but they only
<v Speaker 1>sell it mainly to government agencies in the USDA Service.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm trying to get them to sell me a camera,
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I might have to start a
<v Speaker 1>Kickstarter for that one because they just want so much
<v Speaker 1>money for it. But if I can get that one,
<v Speaker 1>it will be probably quite two or three times the
<v Speaker 1>clarity of this one. I'm assuming I haven't tested it,
<v Speaker 1>but trying to figure that out on the side and
<v Speaker 1>see what they say, so.
<v Speaker 2>How many of these units do you have active in
<v Speaker 2>the field right now?
<v Speaker 1>Active? Right now? I don't have any active just because
<v Speaker 1>of the winner and the only side I had last
<v Speaker 1>year was British Columbia and the camera system, like I said,
<v Speaker 1>it needed to be fine tuned, so it's it could
<v Speaker 1>get up like ten feet of snow at this location
<v Speaker 1>in the winter time and in a negative thirty So
<v Speaker 1>there's no way for Todd to actually get out there
<v Speaker 1>in the winter without a snowmall bill. So that being said,
<v Speaker 1>I kind of just let it run as long as
<v Speaker 1>it could and it's still out there as far as
<v Speaker 1>mostly equipment goes. So I'm going back out there in
<v Speaker 1>May with the new system architected for the power that's
<v Speaker 1>gonna make it ten times of better as far as
<v Speaker 1>reliability goes. And then I'm gonna set that up along
<v Speaker 1>with the thermal and so have three different feeds, two
<v Speaker 1>different locations than a thermal. And then I'm going up
<v Speaker 1>to Pennsylvania and h I think seven or eight days
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna set a system up there, and I'm slated
<v Speaker 1>to go to New York, mid state New York and
<v Speaker 1>put a system there. If everything works out, so by
<v Speaker 1>mid May, mid to in May, I should have three
<v Speaker 1>different sites and at the menimum six different feeds, probably
<v Speaker 1>more than that going. So right now the app just
<v Speaker 1>has the video and demand section of the last two
<v Speaker 1>weeks of Radium and the user clips and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>So I'm nothing I can do about it because I'm
<v Speaker 1>looking for people to cooperate with me and work with
<v Speaker 1>me so I can have feeds up. I had had
<v Speaker 1>someone in February say that they wanted to do it,
<v Speaker 1>and three days before I had everything booked to go
<v Speaker 1>set it up, and they basically said, you know, I
<v Speaker 1>have to cancel. My family really doesn't want this. So
<v Speaker 1>as frustrating as that is, and having excitement and ready
<v Speaker 1>to get out there and do it, and this would
<v Speaker 1>have been into the Southeast States, you know, where the
<v Speaker 1>what boogers are in the skunk apees are, right, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I have to respect it. You know, their family just
<v Speaker 1>wasn't comfortable with it, and they didn't you know, they
<v Speaker 1>thought it wasn't going to be enough privacy for their family.
<v Speaker 1>So I just, you know, it is what it is.
<v Speaker 1>I had to let go and keep moving, but still
<v Speaker 1>trying to find people to work with in that area.
<v Speaker 1>So it's all about word of mouth, and I can't
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to really cold contact people and take have
<v Speaker 1>them take you seriously, right, I need to, but I
<v Speaker 1>need those intern people kind of like you that know
<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks that can do these intros for me.
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I've been doing. Other than that,
<v Speaker 1>I think I've got kind of a big I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>he's a pretty big name of Bigfoot, don't. I don't
<v Speaker 1>want to jinx it, but I think he's I think
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna work with me as well. And that's kind
<v Speaker 1>of up in the air as far as when I'm
<v Speaker 1>hoping in the next thirty days, and I can kind
<v Speaker 1>of publicize that a bit, but I'll just leave it
<v Speaker 1>as it is for now, because, like I said, nothing
<v Speaker 1>set in stone. I don't want to say anything and
<v Speaker 1>make anyone angry or jinks myself, so I'm just leaving
<v Speaker 1>it see where it leads me.
<v Speaker 2>I mean to me, it just blows my mind, but
<v Speaker 2>I know this is the case. I've been around this
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot community for far too long to be naive about it.
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, this is a really great opportunity for
<v Speaker 2>people to be part of something major, and I just
<v Speaker 2>really hope that people will step up to the plate,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and let egos drop a little bit, because
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a lot of people out there that
<v Speaker 2>talk a big game, and like, here's a piece of
<v Speaker 2>equipment that could really help out the cause. You know,
<v Speaker 2>we could get this thing proven once and for all.
<v Speaker 2>And it's just going to take people like you said,
<v Speaker 2>that are willing to cooperate and willing to collaborate with
<v Speaker 2>you and allow you to install these cameras for them.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's all that they have to do. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that will happen. Like I said, I wanted
<v Speaker 2>to have you on so we could talk about that
<v Speaker 2>and maybe get that ball rolling. I reached out to people.
<v Speaker 2>I'm still working on a list. I still have other
<v Speaker 2>people I'm going to reach out to on your behalf
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully introduce you to some people that might be
<v Speaker 2>able to help you out. But right now, the app
<v Speaker 2>is launched and people can freely sign up for the
<v Speaker 2>app or download the app and log on and watch
<v Speaker 2>the footage that you were talking about.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they can. It's it's on Android, it's on Apple.
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, it's a base. It's not PCO Mac based,
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like a website to go to. Eventually,
<v Speaker 1>I'll get it there. I just wanted to start minimum
<v Speaker 1>viable product, and everybody has most of the people these
<v Speaker 1>days have a smartphone, so it's just the easiest solution.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's it's it's called Big Sweat live stream.
<v Speaker 1>It's out there.
<v Speaker 2>Now, are you going to be it? Like any of
<v Speaker 2>the conferences trying to network with people.
<v Speaker 1>I've thought about it.
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to put all a lot of my energy
<v Speaker 3>into architecture and building out some of the software and
<v Speaker 3>then just getting sites, so I have to.
<v Speaker 1>I've only had so much time and so much energy,
<v Speaker 1>and there's only one of me. So these Bigfoot conferences,
<v Speaker 1>I they're they're great, and I want to go to them.
<v Speaker 1>I just it's hard to sign the amount of time
<v Speaker 1>I need to do everything. I've gotten a few people
<v Speaker 1>that have invited me to a handful of them, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to make them. But I'm trying
<v Speaker 1>to put these field installations as like number one priority
<v Speaker 1>over going to some of the conferences, just because I
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what I'm going to get out of
<v Speaker 1>the conferences. And I you know, I don't honestly, I
<v Speaker 1>don't even want to set up a booth at a conference.
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather just but if they would just give me
<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty forty minutes to speak and get to get
<v Speaker 1>it out there, and then you know, I'm not really selling.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not selling shirts and mugs and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get people to cooperate and collaborate and
<v Speaker 1>work with me. So like just having a having a
<v Speaker 1>microphone for thirty minutes would be amazing to me. But
<v Speaker 1>other than that, you know, I just don't. I don't
<v Speaker 1>want to set up a booth and try to sell merchandise.
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people do that.
<v Speaker 2>The app, access to the cameras and everything is free.
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it's it's it's not free. There is a
<v Speaker 1>subscription to it just because it it has a cost
<v Speaker 1>to me, and I'm trying to balance the costs and
<v Speaker 1>have people actually be vetted in this. So I made
<v Speaker 1>the cost it as cheap as I could, just because,
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it is it's scalable. But it's still
<v Speaker 1>I probably spent I don't know how much money. If
<v Speaker 1>you talk about architecture and software development and energy and time.
<v Speaker 1>I probably spent one hundred and fifty thousand dollars into
<v Speaker 1>it already, so I'm not ever going to get that back.
<v Speaker 1>But I'm trying to get people to know I'm not
<v Speaker 1>trying to get people to know that it's not free
<v Speaker 1>to me. So it's I just made it like four
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine a month, which I think is reasonable because
<v Speaker 1>I've given so much. So you know, people some people don't.
<v Speaker 1>They want everything to be free, and I'm I love
<v Speaker 1>for that, but this is another way of not trying
<v Speaker 1>to do like a Kickstarter or a gofund me, because
<v Speaker 1>this is something where you can sign up for. If
<v Speaker 1>you don't like it, you can just say it, well,
<v Speaker 1>unsubscribe them.
<v Speaker 2>Done right, And of course your time, you know, developing
<v Speaker 2>the system, working on the system and all that, but
<v Speaker 2>the cameras and all the equipment and all the technology
<v Speaker 2>and everything, everything so far has just been you out
<v Speaker 2>of pocket, right, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's one guy that's kind of believes in
<v Speaker 1>my vision that has helped me a little bit with
<v Speaker 1>some of the equipment, but it's i'd say it's ninety
<v Speaker 1>five percent me at this point, and the ongoing costs
<v Speaker 1>as far as storage, and you know, pushing through starlink.
<v Speaker 1>So every single site has a starlink, every single site
<v Speaker 1>is pushing storage. Every single site. I have to have
<v Speaker 1>a pipe of allocated of how many megabytes I can
<v Speaker 1>push to these endpoints. And I have to pay monthly
<v Speaker 1>for every single thing, and I have to pay. You know,
<v Speaker 1>everything just stacks up and stacks up and stacks up.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And the more people that actually actually the more people
<v Speaker 1>actually use it, the more costs it costs me. So
<v Speaker 1>until it actually equally until it actually equals out, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the more people that actually watch the stream, it actually
<v Speaker 1>costs me more money. But you know, not everybody thinks
<v Speaker 1>of those things.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know how much it is just to
<v Speaker 2>operate a starlink device to connect to the internet, you know,
<v Speaker 2>which is based on like data packages pretty much. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy, man, that's this is this is clearly a
<v Speaker 2>passion project for you. This is not going to make
<v Speaker 2>any money.
<v Speaker 1>The more people we get, the more money I can
<v Speaker 1>dump into it too, Right, The more subscribers I get,
<v Speaker 1>the more eyes on things, the more collaboration, and then
<v Speaker 1>the more sophisticated equipment I can buy, and the more
<v Speaker 1>people I can maybe get some money to help me
<v Speaker 1>go do some of this stuff. Right so, you know,
<v Speaker 1>it'd be great, you know, to have to quit my
<v Speaker 1>day job and just do this full time. But until
<v Speaker 1>till then get everybody on board, that's not going to happen.
<v Speaker 1>So so right now it's it's just meat eating it hard.
<v Speaker 1>But that's okay.
<v Speaker 2>If somebody is listening that wants to get into contact
<v Speaker 2>with you, what's the best way to do that. Should
<v Speaker 2>they reach out to you directly or go through me?
<v Speaker 2>How do you want to orchestrate that?
<v Speaker 1>I have an email address, it's just a contact that
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot livestream dot org. I do. I set up some Instagram, Facebook, YouTube,
<v Speaker 1>you know, the normal socials are out there. You can
<v Speaker 1>get to all that inside the app if you just
<v Speaker 1>download it. If you just download it, you don't have
<v Speaker 1>to subscribe. You can still get to my links. You
<v Speaker 1>can still see my contact info on there. Like I said,
<v Speaker 1>I'm really transparent as far as subscription goes. I put
<v Speaker 1>disclaimers all over it. There's no ads on here. I
<v Speaker 1>don't have any of that. I'm not trying to make
<v Speaker 1>revenue off of ads or do anything like that. It's
<v Speaker 1>purely Bigfoot research and data. So I mean that's what
<v Speaker 1>it's built for.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean prior to this episode, you and I
<v Speaker 2>talked on the phone for like an hour or so,
<v Speaker 2>I mean co signing for you on this, like you know, like,
<v Speaker 2>this is not this is not a gimmick, This is
<v Speaker 2>not a scam. This is a very intelligent guy that
<v Speaker 2>wants to solve this issue that we've had forever, which
<v Speaker 2>is Bigfoot not being proven. I'm very hopeful about this project, man,
<v Speaker 2>extremely hopeful. And I hope that people out there that
<v Speaker 2>are listening that have you know, these properties that you
<v Speaker 2>know fall under those kind of guidelines of regular activity.
<v Speaker 2>I hope they're each out, man, And I hope we
<v Speaker 2>can get the word out there and kind of get
<v Speaker 2>this network built.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would be amazing. And I totally appreciate you
<v Speaker 1>having me on and reaching out to people and trying
<v Speaker 1>to help push this forward. Like I'm totally open to teamwork.
<v Speaker 1>Like I said to me, it's all about people working
<v Speaker 1>together on this and sharing data, sharing, you know, eventually,
<v Speaker 1>if I can get this going, like I don't see
<v Speaker 1>a reason not to, if I can build a model
<v Speaker 1>off of it, like I can make this modular into
<v Speaker 1>the sense of where the camera system actually it does
<v Speaker 1>edge computing to where it does the model on the
<v Speaker 1>edge of the system to where it will look for
<v Speaker 1>those reference points, and you know, maybe not as high
<v Speaker 1>end cameras, and like I've built some sub modular systems
<v Speaker 1>on this, just playing with it to see what I
<v Speaker 1>can get out of it. So eventually we could publish
<v Speaker 1>a whole if we get enough data points, a whole
<v Speaker 1>model of Bigfoot that the camera systems would look for
<v Speaker 1>on the front end sensors, right, yeah, so the right
<v Speaker 1>frequencies for everything, and you could you know, send packages
<v Speaker 1>of that and anyone that has you know, we could
<v Speaker 1>have people do the research on their own, right, So
<v Speaker 1>I mean that would be another another opportunity of collaboration
<v Speaker 1>and doing that. So anyone that actually really wants to
<v Speaker 1>help me can reach out to me. Like I said,
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a lot of work. And I'm one person,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm staying up till like three o'clock in the
<v Speaker 1>morning every day, waking up at seven and doing two
<v Speaker 1>or three different gigs at the same time. And I've
<v Speaker 1>got a wife and three kids, and uh, I've got
<v Speaker 1>a son that uh just beat cancer for the second time.
<v Speaker 1>So oh wow, I got my hands full. Yeah he
<v Speaker 1>had he's had leukemia for the last four years and
<v Speaker 1>relapsed and yeah, he just he just got into remission.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm really hopefully says that way. So you know,
<v Speaker 1>I got my hands full. So I'm not I'm not
<v Speaker 1>doing this for my health. I'm just doing it because
<v Speaker 1>I believe in it.
<v Speaker 2>Well, Logan, I appreciate you joining me and uh share
<v Speaker 2>this project with me and my listeners and your stories,
<v Speaker 2>and I've really enjoyed it.
<v Speaker 1>Man.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I look forward to talking to you on
<v Speaker 2>into the future and seeing where this goes.
<v Speaker 1>For sure, I'll keep your posted and if I get
<v Speaker 1>any good evidence in the next few months here, I'll
<v Speaker 1>definitely let you know.
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