Phillies fire Rob Thomson, Alex Cora declines Philly job, 1-1 Travis Bazzana arrives, Yankees announce Elmer Rodriguez promotion

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Speaker 1: Charge another one down. It's Rob Thompson, fired by the Phillies Don Mattingly. You might know the name he's taking over interim manager. His son's the general manager, Preston Maddingly, President Baseball opp Stave Dombrowski making the move. There's Jim Bowden, who was first this morning to tell everyone it's the first father son GM manager duo in history. Pretty cool, he said, even if it's just holding it a place for an eventual hire of Cora later this season or in the offseason. That was sent. Then after that we find out from Bob Nightingale that Korra turned down the opportunity to match Pullies right now or now right now? When you say right now, do you mean right now, like in the next few weeks or until after the.

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Speaker 2: I think I think after the season, because I think he wants to play it out after the season and see what's out there. Why would he rush into another something right now after he was fired like two days ago, and he's.

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Speaker 1: Getting paid, and he does talk off and I know everybody does, but like he gets some family time. He's been working a lot for a long time.

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Speaker 2: No, I think it's an off season. I'll see where I'm at, you I'll go from there. Why would he just go from one team and jump right into another team without knowing anything about it, not doing a ton of background. Yes, he knows Dave Dombrowski, but he also doesn't want to go from a last place team to a last place team in the middle of the season, right when he can wait and see how the off season goes and then make a decision and talk to other teams. It's smart. You get to talk to a bunch of other teams too. You don't just have to talk to one team.

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Speaker 1: Raises her price too when you're a free agent coveted manager.

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Speaker 2: Should so I don't know. I think it's okay that he did this. And he likes to spend time with his family. I mean, listen, you could kind of see this happening as soon as they hired Don Mattingly. And I hate to to say that about Don Mattingly, but when Rob Thompson, when he saw they hired Don Mattingley and his son is the GM and he has managerial experience in a couple of different places, and then the heat gets turned up. You could kind of see this one coming because you knew that would be the logical choice, and it is and sucks for Topper because I like Topper a lot. But I don't know Kratz.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember when we talked one day. I think AJ was out that day about who could get cut fired early in a season, and we had a tough time coming up with people. Well we've got two and we're a month in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think AJ and I both put zero down mostly because it's like, who do we think is gonna get fired? We have to go to the teams that are bad, and most of them are trying. Then you go to the teams that are good and you're like, well, if they suck, why did I pick them to win the division? You know, I guess we had settled on We had settled on Topper. If the Philly sucked, well, top of your screen right now, if you're watching nine and nineteen, that sucks. They are the worst hitting team south of the New York Mets in Major League Baseball. And like that's what got him fired. That is, there's nothing else he did. Just like when I worked with the Phillies in radio and Joe Girardi was the manager and Topper was the bench coach. I didn't think Joe Girardi did anything wrong. They fired him. I not that I disagreed with it. The team was not winning. The Phillies were not winning ballgames. And when you put this much money in ownership, whether they listen to fans or not, they want wins. John Middleton might be the most outspoken owner, saying I want to win. It's part of my legacy. And when you're not winning, you have to make some type of move. They clearly can't get rid of Kevin Long they or didn't want to, and they clearly can't get rid of twenty six guys on the ross or thirteen guys who aren't hitting on the roster, and so you get rid of the manager. It's nothing against Rob Thompson. It was just the next move.

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Speaker 1: Hold up. When Joe Girardi was like June third, twenty twenty two, the team was fifty one games in. They were twenty two and twenty nine. Yes, some people thought, what's really going to change? Don't you think a lot changed during that time period. If you're going to make a change, it's like dating someone completely different. Joe Girardi and Rob Thompson are very different. Personalities. Would you agree?

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Speaker 2: I would agree, I would agree. But you're saying, you're saying what's what's I mean, you're bringing somebody that was there already. Why did Rob Thompson like was Joe Girardi's like heavy hand on the team? Just like is Rob Thompson's relaxed mentality or heavy hand whatever the reason you're firing him, is it any different than Don Mattingley's Because if Don Mattinglee or Rob Thompson when he was a bench coach, if the bench coach is doing his job, you got to help your manager and call him out and be like, hey, you know what, the guys need a little kick in the butt. Give it to him, like you're the one to give it to him, or hey, you're being a little too tough on him. Give it like it's not all of a sudden, like you just flip it around, like who in the who in the dugout? Because Nick castianis isn't there? We know Nick and Topper, you know, kind of butted heads a little bit, But who in the dugout have we heard any even like a peep of any kind? That's like, so glad at Topper, so glad Toppers out of there, or we need to get Topper out of there, or we need a different voice. That's why they brought Mattingly in was because they felt like front office felt like they needed somebody with more big league experience, so they brought Don Mattingly in. Maybe that was Maybe that's the case, Maybe that's the problem. Like if we're just trying to me, we're grasping at straws.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, I do not have to say here, and I want to bring Aj in for this debate. I have no experience in this, but AJ give me your thoughts here. If someone works for the team but they're not the manager, do you feel like there could be a massive change when the person gets more power, Because if we're saying, oh, bench coach, what if someone's just an advisor, like, oh, well, they're with the team too, and they could talk to them.

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Speaker 2: I think bench though I've seen I went from Tom Kelly to Ron Garden higher he was the third base coach. It was a completely different animal. I mean, it wasn't in the middle of the season Freddy Gonzalez to Brian Snicker when when Freddy got fired. It was a different feeling because they're different people and different people in charge. Usually the bench coach and the manager go together, meaning one gets fired the other one gets fired. Because they're usually thickest thieves and they're normally like this, they're in lock step together. Obviously this wasn't the case with Don Mattingly and Rob Thompson. So do I think it can be a different feel? Absolutely? Donnie Baseball is going to have a different talk to the guys than Rob Thompson does, a different demeanor with the guys, a different presence with the guys. So yeah, do I think it can change, Yes, but nothing's going to change if they don't start hitting. And listen, it's not Kevin Long's fault. Kevin Long's doing the same stuff. Kevin Long has had a history of hitting. Everywhere he's gone, every team he's been on, he's had guys that can hit. So, oh, fire Kevin Long. I get all these Philly fans, text me fire Kevin for.

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Speaker 1: What Last year Philly's offense lokod And it's basically.

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Speaker 2: Is Boone's not hitting. Basically anyone under you know JT's on the shelf, I mean Carbur and Swarf, Garrett Stubbs, Garrett Stubbs is the leading hitter three thirty three, obviously, but I mean look at that two nineteen when I did the Phillies game a couple weeks ago, I said it, once you got past Scherver, like the top four, you were like, uh, okay, where's the offense going to come from? Because starts not hitting right. I mean, Marshawn and Stubbs great, but that's not J t Romuto in his prime right. Alec Boham obviously has been off to an awful start. It's just you know, this team is known for hitting home runs, and granted the pitching ain't great either, so it's kind of been the worst of both the worst thing of both worlds to hit at the same time, and then the manager takes the blame. We love our doga Bella, who's really just a couch cushion in our house, and.

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Speaker 2: My thing anytime managers get fired, unless there's something like I felt like Alex Kor's situation. It felt like something finally came to a head and it was like a right, like we're just we're out, like you're out of here kind of thing when a manager gets fired, like when Joe Girardi got fired. Obviously it worked out they got two games away from winning a World Series, but like when Topper is getting fired, here to me what I said before about your bench coach, Like if I'm if I'm if I'm AJ's bench coach, I am going to make sure he doesn't make an ass out of himself or create an environment where I can help him be the best manager that he can be. But everybody thinks, oh, we're going to bring in this new voice. It's unbelievable, Like why didn't you help him before? It is my opinion, and I'm not saying it's Maddingly's fault. I'm just saying that it's not a it's not a quick magic pill, Like you're not just gonna bring in Donnie Baseball and all of a sudden, whoa Donnie Baseball helped help the Blue Jays get to one game, one hit away from winning the World Series last year, like Don Mattingly was doing everything he could to help this team be as good as they could in his role. And I knowing Topper, I know he's not like don like, stop stop doing that because you're undermining me, you're undercutting me. No, like he's already been doing everything, and so I just I have I always have such a I'm always have a little trepidacious feeling because I'm like, don't just expect this to just turn it around because it's turned it around other times, or because he's had success as a manager in different places. Like he was there, he saw what was going on. If he had something that would just flip at oneint eighty, he should have told Topper, hey, bro, like you gotta flip this. These guys are pissed every time you do this or that.

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Speaker 1: But then what did Topper do differently when he took over?

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Speaker 2: The team started hitting. The team started hitting like let's star. There's a different voice. It's just from I heard, and I know the guys that were on the team that I know that are no longer there. Said that Joe Girardi was so rigid, and that's Joe Girardi's life style. Eats two eggs every morning with white toast and whatever his famous breakfast is, and he does the same thing every day. And the guys in that clubhouse wanted something a little more loose, and Rob Thompson brought that. I don't know what Don Manning he's gonna do. Compared to Rob Thompson, I never played for Don Manning. It was about a whisker away one time when he was the manager in La. I had a long phone conversation. I thought I was going to the Dodgers, but I never got to that opportunity to play for him. Every day, guys i've heard love playing for him. They love playing for Rob Thompson too, So it's just a different voice. And what's he gonna do different? I don't know. He's not gonna Is he gonna construct the lineup different? Will that matter? Well he pitched the different pictures. I mean you still have Nola Wheeler, Sanchez Blizardo, and then whoever the fifth painter, and then he still got the same bullpend They're still gonna run him out the same way to Ron's church. So you gotta have Keller in these guys clothes. I don't know what's he gonna do different? I will find out. But can he turn around? I mean, asked Jack McKeon in two thousand and three with the Marlins. Yeah, Dale Swain with the Brewers, Rob Thompson with the twenty two, the twenty two Phillies, Like, there's plenty of examples.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why the manager role matters.

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Speaker 2: Now, I believe it matters, but not to the point where I think fans think we had to get rid of them, like it's just it's something fun to yell. It's like when everybody's booing at a stadium. I think Aj even told the story. Dude looked at him, was like, hey, do you know why they're brewing that guy? Like it's it's something Well yeah, okay, yeah Topper, He's gone, yes, screw that guy, and then it just builds and builds and builds. Hey, throw me a ball, Yeah, throw me a ball too, like like be outside, like think outside. And that's what I would say with the Mets. The Mets shouldn't fire Mendy. But we're not gonna get off topic with that because but I guess as a as a GM I would never be able to fire anybody. Why Because I don't unless I see a moment, unless I see something where he is butting heads and making our team worse. Why is firing the option? Why aren't we moving as an entire organization in the same direction. Why is nobody else being held accountable in this situation? Don browse, who who else is being accountable?

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, what do you want them to do? So you would prefer that the team let go of the president Baseball ops. Would you prefer that they cut or trade players. You can't do that stuff. They might do that stuff eventually. It's just from a timing perspective. Right when a team starts out poorly, one of the only options you have is a coaching change, and that's either you have to make a hitting coach or a manager. You're right, it doesn't mean you have to make it. But I think for some owners, who's really they're the ones who make the final call on everything like this. They say, what's my line? Okay, we've hit the record where this is my line and there's nothing else I can do right now, and I need to do something. Do you feel like at least sometimes Kratz, it can send a message. A lot of guys love playing for Rob Thompson for many years. He lets them do their thing. He's very soft spoken. Now they show up and they're like a shoot, he's gone. This feels more real. We need to do something else, or next they might change who's running the front office, or they might change half the lineup. In the offseason, they might not run it back anymore. Besides, the few stars that are locked up for a long time. Doesn't this send like the first ripple effect across the organization.

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Speaker 2: So the guys that could get cut might get cut, and they're worried about getting cut. AJ's rarely went through any times where he thought he was going to get cut in his career, And I spent every day thinking I was going to get cut. They're not cutting AJ on a three or four year contract.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying in the I'm saying in the offseat. They've run it back for like three years. So to me, this is like, hey, figure it out. I just had to switch the manager, even though a lot of you wanted him to stay. I got to do something you've wanted me to run the same team through over and over again. Guys are buddies. Now, if this team misses the playoffs or has a very disappointing, say first round exit, they might actually go through with it. Try to trade one of the stars, get rid of a lot of the role players. You could see a lineup that only has two or three out of the nine that returns next year. That's a real thing at some point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess, but I don't know. I mean it just it feels like everybody wants to run. They've been talking about fire Rob Thompson for two weeks now, two weeks twelve games ago. They're talking about it's just not working, not good, terrible, and then it continued to stay in that course. Okay, yep, time to fire them. I bet they get back to five hundred before the All Star break.

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Speaker 1: Hey something fun, well, not fun last night, but fun all while it happened. Mason Miller had a really long scoreless inning streak that tie back to last year, thirty four and two thirds innings and it is now over and he can begin a new streak. Got in some trouble they do.

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Speaker 2: You see the hits they got off of him though the line. By the way, that ball's foul. I don't understand how the one ball is called fair? What do you mean the ball was not? The ball was across the illusion popsicle illusion. From that camera angle, it looks like, yes, the ball is you know, it looks like yes right here. Oh, it's definitely it's definitely foul. Like we can see we can see a space from here. Oh it's over the line. Still a fair ball?

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Speaker 1: They still score anyway?

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Speaker 2: No in that well, I mean that's a hit. Maybe that bugles Falul punches that he punches him out and changes. I mean, you can't say that a good point. I mean the one run they scored was on the double plated in turn. I mean it was like it wasn't like they crushed maybe, I mean there was washing. I mean he did give up some runs I mean which he still got to save and they still won the game, So it wasn't huge deal. But yeah, it sucks. I mean, this guy' still pretty good. As the era went up to one?

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Speaker 1: Is it that one he's slacking? Yeah, that cy Young bid is on the line. He picked the right time to give up a little bit of action.

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Speaker 2: The balls fell.

00:17:20
Speaker 1: We can show this quickie update on Tommy Cainley. Loo's like he can opt out of his deal on Friday if not called up to the big So we might have to check in with our buddy, so who gets the call to the Red Sox bullpen.

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Speaker 2: We might have check in on a new photo too, I mean, who wears Reebok cleats anymore? This photo must have been from like nineteen ninety eight. It's retro tome. I know, I know it's it's in a Woo socks. But I didn't think. I mean, Tommy, that's why you're not getting called up. You got cleats from Dick's Sporting Goods. Like, let's mix in some like new cleats for you. Maybe he likes them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he likes them. Maybe they're comfortable.

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Speaker 2: One more person that has Rebox anywhere in the game right now, I'm going to I'm good. That's actually saw a picture of me as a rookie in Rebox.

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Speaker 1: There you go, a rookie? How long ago? Only how many years ago they put it so only ninety eighth.

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Speaker 2: Back in the Daybox was throwing some cash around. I remember minor leaguers were getting We're getting like five thousand dollars to wear their cleats, and I was like, that guy's not even good. Why are they paying him? And then Rebox Now we'll go to We'll go to CrossFit. So it's cool at the back. Tommy Cainley bringing it back.

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Speaker 1: Bringing it back and hopefully they call him up. I got to look through. Yeah, I mean they have to if they want him. Otherwise he gets to float around and someone else will bring him up. I mean the Angels to call him. There's plenty of teams that could use another bullpen arm. Maybe the Ashros call him also real quick on some other housekeeping, John Carlo Stanton was I eled, I didn't didn't mention that earlier. But he's got the calf supposed to be a low or grade. But they're gonna be careful with him, as they always are. And then what else, Oh, Carlos, Rodan's going to do two more rehab starts, then he's going to pop back up for the Yanks. We started Cole. Actually I heard Cash Moro on any of the other day after he said he said June. I heard him slipping a June. So they're in no rush. I mean they're playing well. They have plenty of starting pitching, which we're about to talk about coming up in our next segment. Anyway, we're going to talk about the latest and the greatest Cole's pitching again on Wednesday. But I believe I heard Cash say Rodan may make sense, and then Garrett Cole June. So he was already at fifty five ish pitches according to Mark bind the scenes. But it sounds like they're still slow playing in a bit. We'll see. I'm sure some of it is Hey Garrett, how are you feeling? When do you want to pitch in the big leagues? Bet? He can make No, he can make.

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Speaker 2: Someone go quick. I mean, don't you think he wants to go quick? That's the top of the team to be like Pump the Brakes settle down.

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Speaker 2: He was traded from the Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: I know that has been a nice catcher for them, but I will still say the way that elite pitching is coveted could end up looking pretty tough for Boston if he becomes a star. The Yankees in the Red Sox don't trade with each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but a nice job they got, listened. The Red Sox needed a catcher. They got a catcher at Yeah, okay, they and I think when when Rodriguez, when Elmer was with the Red Sox, he had a hard time tow get over the plate.

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Speaker 1: He did, but then he went to the Yankees and he threw shade at them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we get mad all the time. The teams won't trade their prospects for legitimate big leaguers, I agree, And then when they do, one guy might work out. He hasn't even worked out yet, he's just getting called up. Then all of a sudden, we're like, oh, why would they make this move?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it doesn't matter. I agree with your sound reay, but you know that when there's Yankees Red Sox matchups and if Elmer Rodriguez becomes a stud, Boston Ben's are gonna be pissed. They're gonna be like, what the heck? Who's this guy? How Come when we made a trade and this guy was considered mid level prospect A he didn't develop like we thought he wouldn't be you should have traded somebody else to the damn Yankees. I'm just pointing out you are going to hear that if he ends up being a stud Crats and he wasn't completely silent last year. In August, in an interview, he gave credit to the Yankees organization because he said, they're letting me pitch and letting me execute. The Yankees made some changes with him on armslot and apparently just gave him a little bit more control. Also, like in terms of his development, helped him lean more into the East West style. I think either you know, a lot less on the four seam, a lot more on the sinker sweeper type. So he became a different guy. That's part of why he is who he is right now. But he he snuck something in there in a quote.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he got an opportunity that he didn't feel like he was getting in Boston, or maybe Boston had ideas. I mean we kind of heard this with Kyle Harrison. Kyle Harrison's kind of done pretty decent since he's gone over to Milwaukee. And but every organization has their thing. You can't just all of a sudden, halfway through a year in a minor league system, go oh, we got to change our thing. Like they got to buy into it and you got to see how it plays out. So, you know what, he didn't like what they the decisions or the changes or whatever it was, it was different. Ultimately, the reality is, as a player, if you blame the coaches, you're soft because you have to go out there. Everybody's getting coached, overcoached, under coached, whatever the coaching is. You have to go out there compete. If they're asking you to make a change, you either have to do it and accept the results, don't do it. Accept the results and accept the accept the criticism from that team for not making the change because it's your career. So was it the Red Sox fault? I mean, maybe they were giving them bad information, but ultimately it's his ra. I can go back on Baseball Reference and look at all of his ras, all of his walk totals during that time when he was walking half the bat, you know, one batter every other inning. Like, no matter what the changes are, you have to take ownership for it yourself.

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Speaker 1: Right. He's also young at the time. He wouldn't be the first guy that figures out some control. Even now, he's only twenty two years old. So let's get a report on him. JJ Cooper to give us more on Elmer Rodriguez.

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Speaker 3: Elma Rodriguez was a breakout prospect in twenty twenty five as he kind of emerged after being traded from the Red Sox to the Yankees. He emerged as one of the Yankees' best pitching prospects. The start of the twenty twenty six season has only increased his stock. He's been dominant in Triple A four starts. He's yet to allow a more than one run in any of those starts. Ninety five ninety six minor fastball, para fastballs, fastball for Seymran. A sinker, but it's the pitch mix. He has a slider, he has a cutter, he has a change up, He keeps hitters off balance, he throws enough strikes. And by the way, he's also used to the ABS system now, so when he comes up to the big leagues he's already seen it in Triple A. He looks like he's pretty close to being ready to help the Yankees for the rest of this season and for the long term.

00:25:56
Speaker 1: Good stuff from JJ. Now let's move to the other big debut this week, former number one overall pick Travis Bazana getting called up by the Cleveland Guardians to hopefully be the second baseman of the future for a long time, and we've seen a lot of rookie success so far this season. Could this be the next big guy for them? Also keep in mind at that time, Cleveland had a two percent chance of landing the number one overall pick in the lottery that year. That is a true gift of the lottery that did not exist prior to a few years ago. In the last CBA, I have another report and then we'll get your thoughts on Bizana. Let's get more from JJ Cooper on what to expect from Travis.

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Speaker 3: The Cleveland Guardians are right in the mix in the al Central race, as we expected, but when you look at their lineup, they could use some help. And so Travis Bison is on the way the number one pick in the twenty twenty four MLB draft. He's always Bison has always been able to hit. He showed that in Australia, he showed that in college, show that in the minor leagues. There's on base ability. Here, there's hitting ability. There is some pop as well. He should be able to provide a little bit of a boost to the Guardian's power production as well. Not a great defender at second base, but perfectly acceptable. And when you look at this Guardians lineup. It could really use the help. Cleveland is bottom third in major leagues in run scored per game, in batting average, in on basse, in slugging. Bizonic can help that, especially when you consider that Wambrido, who they brought up to play second base, hasn't really been able to handle the role. Really, the only production they've gotten at second base has been a few times that utility man Daniel Stemen's played there. Bizana should step in and be a regular from day one and adds to what already looks like an exceptional top of the twenty twenty four MLB draft class. We already have six current MLB regulars from the top ten picks in that class, and here we are, it's less than two years since draft day.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so many from that class already up in the show and contributing. So this help Cleveland a lot. We're always I can't do anything but the latter who power has cooled off, but looks like he's going to be a legit big leaguer. And then here's another.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they have I mean, there's anybody pair with Jose Jose Ramirez is gonna be good, but Bazanas should help. They're doing it with their pitching, as they always have said, and they can find any sort of offense. I mean, Kwan the Lotter, you know, Banzanna, Naylor, Ramirez, Manzardo Rochio. The lineup isn't full of huge names other than Jose, so anytime they can get some help. And if he can bring anything to this lineup, because Brito wasn't hitting at all, it's gonna be a huge help for them because we know they if they give up like they if they can score four runs a game, they're gonna win most games. The way they're pitching is so I mean again, if you look at their batting average, Austin Hedges his second I mean Daniel Siemens. Dad wants to point out that he's three fourteen by the way, also, but you know, uh just I mean the home runs at their home runs they don't have. They don't hit a ton of home runs. So yeah, they're just looking for anything. And when we talk to the people in good Yeah, good Year, Yeah, good Year yeah, and Spring Train, they said, we have all these position players ready that are going to be coming. And we're starting to see him slowly trickle up to the big leagues and that that's a good thing for the organization. I mean, should the Guardians have selected Nick Kurtz, they would have had Rookie of the year power at first base. Should the Guardians have taken Chase Burns, because then they would have a pit like obviously, Travis Bozana's hit profile is there. Is he going to make a blip in this big league roster, big league lineup radar? His you know, he controls the strike zone really well, even back into college. Will his power come? Because if his power doesn't come, he's just gonna be another piece in this Guardian's lineup that doesn't hit for a lot of power. If he does, then all of a sudden, you have six years of control of a player at second base that can maybe pop your twenty five home runs. But that's that's it's a long way away. You have to you have to let the season play out and hopefully he gets you know, he hits the ground running right away.

00:30:17
Speaker 1: One other part, so Zach Mizell from The Athletic wrote about him and said two things. I Mean, the articled a lot about how he's a baseball junkie, but some of the specifics he said. When he was initially assigned to a ball in twenty twenty four, he requested scouting reports from the player development staff, not just on upcoming opponents, but on his own teammates in case he spotted anything he could assist with once he got to know them, and also the team's VP of player development, Stephen Astare at the Cleveland Organization, said he thinks the Bizano is the organization's first prospect ever to schedule a meeting with the research and development department. He asked about internal defensive metrics and how the organization evaluates hit swing decisions. Do you guys like that or is it if it's good for him, if he's into it.

00:31:08
Speaker 2: It could be a little bit too much, like hey, like let's here's here's our system, Like maybe learn our system before. But like if he's a baseball junkie, like it says, some people might look at him as a try hard in that sense. But in my opinion, the dude sounds like he wants to get after it. It might sound a little corny, but the dudes who want it more like are going to get the most out of their ability. Doesn't mean they're gonna be better than other people who have more talent. It just means they'll get the most out of it, and that's good for some people. Other people are like, please, don't show me any of that stuff. I'm just gonna go out and hit the ball. Maybe it's smart because they're just learning what they're looking for to get them called up. If I would have had that, I would have been like, Hey, what do I need to do to get called up? Guys? Okay, boom, I'll do that. You would have asked, right, oh, yeah, I need to do guys. Okay, thanks, I'll do that.

00:31:58
Speaker 1: We always give credit to Bregman for helping all of his teammates. I mean, one of the ways to do that is to get scatting reports.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: If you're an analytically driven organization. I'm a player in that organization, and they say, hey you x Y and Z. Gu justs what I'm going to work on X Y and Z.

00:32:10
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. That's why the miners would be like, Okay, give me everything that you think is good.

00:32:14
Speaker 2: We didn't have war when I played, so no one was worried about their war. But if someone could a tone of me and said, hey, you get called up. You have this war, you do this better. Guess what I would have done every day. I would have fixed whatever they said to help my war.

00:32:25
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, Seakeek is the number one rated ticketing app with over thirty five million downloads, and it's MLB's official ticket marketplace. We'll do what we do, look at some matchups. I just mentioned this to Ken Aj Rangers Yankee series looks fun now these next couple of games, I'd be looking Onekeek for a ticket.

00:32:44
Speaker 2: I'd also like to see the Red Sox Blue Jays. Your Savage is making his season. Yeah you, and it's totally versus uh you Savage, I believe. So that's that's another. It's another good one. Let's not forget in the old South Side of Chicago, Scottie, Yeah, Soriano and the guy we had on yesterday, Davis Martin. That's a sneaky good matchup too.

00:33:03
Speaker 1: And Murk Kami is putting on a show. Every other rookie of the year.

00:33:06
Speaker 2: Mr Kammy all laughed at me that dude has twelve extra base hits and they all go out of the park.

00:33:11
Speaker 1: I would never laugh at you for that. My things laughed in me when I said it, No, I felt like the Japanese position players were being undervalued. And I still think Okamoda is gonna have a great year. He's picked it up again lately, and murk Kami might have what what's the over under right now? Just I mean a pace I think for sixty seven sixty ex.

00:33:28
Speaker 2: What's that number though? What's that number? If he hits two five, is it forty? Is it forty five? What is it?

00:33:37
Speaker 1: Well? What you're saying for him to win?

00:33:38
Speaker 2: He hits forty or forty five, he'll win the Rookie the Year. Yeah, and also forty number, I don't think h's forty. That's I mean, you can almost lock it up.

00:33:46
Speaker 1: I'll say this as many front office people say this. Sorry, I don't really care about Murkami's batting average. He's getting on base, he spits it, pitches, he's got good plate approach.

00:33:55
Speaker 2: Right now, he just hits a homer, strikes out or walks. He's pretty true up.

00:33:58
Speaker 1: He is the classic twenty ten player. Yeah, three true albums.

00:34:02
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm just saying because if McGonagall hits three hundred has a nine to fifty oh ps, does he does he take it from them.

00:34:12
Speaker 1: It's going to be a good battle with him. McGonagall has been.

00:34:15
Speaker 2: A star and totally different players he's.

00:34:18
Speaker 1: Got, He's a shortstop, he's got you know how voters are wins above replacements high.

00:34:24
Speaker 2: By the way I sent you guys today, I was like, are you kidding that one? That was Sriano? Who are the three? Oh? Sriano, Coco Crisp, Thenard Span Span, Sorry, Soriano was better than those other two guys. I'm sorry that way better.

00:34:40
Speaker 1: By the way, maybe tomorrow a code for you Territory ten ten percent off your next set of tickets at see percent off any tickets with the promo code Territory one zero. Make sure you click the link of the description and download the app. Have the code automatically added to your coun so you could use it later. Thank you to seek. Can go get yourself a seat to one of those Rangers Yankees matchups if you're in the area. Otherwise, some of the other ones that AJ mentioned are great too. Rolling through some other happenings from Monday night, the Pirates pitched six and two thirds perfect innings. Fast forward to the ninth. Then the Santana who had been money. I think his dra was below one on the season. Did not have it? Do you do you try and pull that earlier if you don't see it, Like how.

00:35:23
Speaker 2: Quick those two back to back home runs that happened.

00:35:25
Speaker 1: But then then after that and.

00:35:27
Speaker 2: Then after that, but then it was like it already happened, so you're hoping he could get out of the inning, and they eventually did take him out when they scored the third and the fourth run.

00:35:35
Speaker 1: So it was so Homer, Homer walk, infield hit, okay, walk that loaded the.

00:35:44
Speaker 2: Bit that happens. That happened fast.

00:35:46
Speaker 1: And then first pitch to Jose Formen was a two run double the left field corner. So boom, all that stuff that happened fast.

00:35:52
Speaker 2: I was watching that game. It was like boom boom, boom, boom, boom boom. And ship carry, by the way, was having an absolute meltdown on the television screen streaming, Oh my goodness, it was Weather holds Homer, Oh, and you gotta Pittsburg's boat JJ weatherhole first, and then then you're getting like an infield hit and he's like, these guys don't quit. They have so much fire it's unbound lavable. It was like chipless chip chips. The first Yeah, she was like eight innings. Shep was like, we're getting perfect game, and all of a sudden.

00:36:30
Speaker 1: It is exciting. That's kind of like how you go into the Cardinal season being like, well, this is gonna suck, and you're.

00:36:35
Speaker 2: Like, oh, this is kind of fun for now.

00:36:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they're looking at.

00:36:38
Speaker 2: Great Allie. I saw Ollie give a little something to somebody in the crowd. I don't know who was after the game behind the dug out. He was like, oh, I think it was JJ's parents who was saying good job.

00:36:50
Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, he had a good JJ's a whole contingent he did.

00:36:55
Speaker 2: Miles North twenty eight miles north, the hometown can comes through with a big homer for the away team, Cardinals. He was he was living it, living it, especially when he thought the season was going to kind of be meah.

00:37:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it still might end up that way, but at least for now, this team is fifteen and thirteen. Now raise your hand if you think they're going to make the playoffs. Okay, thank you.

00:37:24
Speaker 2: Oh I don't have enough screen, sorry, raising.

00:37:30
Speaker 1: Alligator arms. Nope, not happening, Bob Knightingale just put out a quote from Dave Dombraski. I'm guessing maybe he's speaking right now Kratz, and the quote was, this isn't a blame game. We collectively are not doing well. Actually like that quote, right, It's.

00:37:45
Speaker 2: Like, it's not a blame game. That Whitey fire raptops a blame. You're blaming am by firing.

00:37:49
Speaker 1: But what else do you want him to do?

00:37:51
Speaker 2: Why if you're not blaming him, Well, if you're not blaming him, why do you fire him?

00:37:55
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's everybody's fault. It's not just one person.

00:37:57
Speaker 2: Well, then you should fire everybody. Dave Debrowski should step down.

00:38:00
Speaker 1: But you can't fire everybody.

00:38:02
Speaker 2: Okay, you're blaming top.

00:38:05
Speaker 1: No, you're not blaming him solely.

00:38:07
Speaker 2: You're just saying no, you are because he's the only one they got fired literally everything.

00:38:11
Speaker 1: Wait, hold up, if everything is messed up, right, and there's one path where it's like you could do this path pretty easily to start to try and get back on track, you're gonna it's.

00:38:23
Speaker 2: No, go ahead, Crouch, It's just such a cop out. That's it. AJ say your piece. I just feel like too many times it's a cop out and people are like, oh, yep, this is what we had to do. We had to do it because we're playing bad. It just why does nobody ever think on their own? Why don't you think on your own and like not just do what everybody else. Reuben said it like three times. Well, the industry will tell you this is what you have to.

00:38:53
Speaker 1: Do, because sometimes it does light a spark.

00:38:59
Speaker 2: Never or have I won.

00:39:02
Speaker 1: When they just experienced this.

00:39:05
Speaker 2: When you then I got to play harder because Freddy got fired. No, I was trying to play harder one like I was not trying to do good.

00:39:12
Speaker 1: But the Phillies just experience this. Rob Thompson took over for Jojo.

00:39:17
Speaker 2: Okay, because maybe the Phillies weren't playing their best and then they got they got together and played better. Hey, it could have been coincidence. How many times we see managers fire in the middle of the year and they don't do better? Sometimes they and sometimes all about who you're playing and hell giants, it'll help.

00:39:36
Speaker 1: You know what they call this guy's show business. It's show business. You gotta do something.

00:39:42
Speaker 2: But you don't need to come out and say we're not blaming anyone. You blame the guy you fired he got. It would be like me punching in your face and saying, it's not your fault.

00:39:50
Speaker 1: I don't blame the analogy.

00:39:51
Speaker 2: And then yeah it is, And then I could say, well, it's no where's fault. I'm just blaming. I'm not blaming you Scottish. But actually, actually let's do this. I'll say something dumb and then A j punches Scott in the face and then because hey, we had we had to do something we can't have. We can't have Eric continually setting stupid stuff on the show. What an idiot? Why is his hat backwards? AJU do it?

00:40:17
Speaker 1: We want to do the Trevor story thing or talk about Louis Castillo or.

00:40:22
Speaker 2: I think I mean Trevor Story just said he had to talk with Craig Breslo, and that's the Luis Castillo thing is a little more concerning getting whack. And then I mean, Hancock's been pitching pretty well. They have when when Miller comes back, what do they do? That's the real question because the rest of the rotation has been decent, but Louis Castillo, La Piedro, the rock has not been He's been real rocky this year. And that's not what they and he'd actually kind of started towards the end last year if you I think, if you go back and look at his numbers, they weren't create last year.

00:40:51
Speaker 1: He was pretty good in the playoffs. But I don't know, what do you do hear that boot him from the rotation this earlier, to boot him when he's.

00:41:02
Speaker 2: Contract. I don't know. They're gonna other pictures. They're gonna boot one of the other pictures out of rotation even though it wasn't his fault. And we're staying on a theme today.

00:41:12
Speaker 1: You guys just can't get over it.

00:41:13
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything. They're not gonna blame castile, though I know that they're just if they they're gonna take someone out of the rotation because when Bryce Miller comes back and they're gonna say, we're not blaming anybody, we're just gonna remove you. It is interesting because they're a team that legit has five guys, and I think all of their guys obviously depending on what they feel like Miller's health status is. They're guys that have to pitch every five days. They don't have they don't have like what the Dodgers have where they want to keep Yamamoto or show Hay or Rokie on on a different on a different schedule. You want Wu out there every five days. You want loger Gilbert out there every five days. You want George Kirby out there every five days, Ember said Hancocks. Striking dudes out like it's it's a good thing for the Mariners. But and they're slowly. I think they're like one game under five hundred now, so they're they're slowly starting to hit their hit their stride.

00:42:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember hearing an interview with I think it was Depoto or Hollander, one of the front office dudes, saying like they were really excited about him in spring training. The v low is up a little bit, he's using his change up more or whatever. And then you get to the season and it's similar to last season. If you're summarizing at all, I mean the fastball allows loud contact. Check out the odds boost token. You can score a bigger payout on the BETMGM app or betmgm dot com. I'll hook you up with your own MLB style. You add it to your bet slip and MLB bet activate the token, lock it in if your bet hits, you're cashing out with an even bigger payout gambling problem or concern. There's help called Wynen Hunter gambler. Oh, let's slap hands. I know some of you were waiting for this. I'll get a villain out in Cleveland last night stealing a baseball from a young girl. I mean, you gotta be kidding me. And then Ryan Bass saves the day.

00:43:23
Speaker 2: Didn't you look up and see who had the ball and think like, I know, I would hope to think that if I was in that situation, but he was looking right at her. If he grabbed the ball and looked up and saw it was a little girl, wouldn't you just be like, hey, you can have it. Here you go. Well, doesn't mean that much. Maybe to me it doesn't. He had the double arro on the play. He was the one the ball hit. I think Schneeman hit it to him and he clanked it and it bounced over to her and then he ran over to get it, so he was he was full locked in. All I can say is people freak out in those moments. And I took my boys to all the baseball team. I took him to a triple A game, the Iron Pigs game the other day, and one of the guys got a ball and all the dudes were so juiced. And the first thing they did after everybody celebrated, the whole team celebrated, they looked around for a kid to give the ball to, like un like nobody even told him to do it, just looked around like that. And so that dude just zero chill, as the kids say.

00:44:26
Speaker 1: Zero field. Wait, and we showed it for a moment. The mom posted on Facebook kind of blasting the Cleveland broadcast and now they might have missed it, but she was like, always Raised, We'll have a special place in my heart, not just fast for dropping the baseball off for the kids and the tears, but she's like, Cleveland broadcast went right to a shot of puppies. Did you see that. Yeah, She's like, Cleveland cut the puppies rather than show the man stealing the ball from a child. So she sent a special thank you to the Raised broadcast and Ryan, I don't know the backstory of how that happened, Snow from working in TV as you do for years. They might have just missed it. And then by the time it happened, didn't it's so fast in a production truck. Just so you know, I'm not I don't think like they were going, no, this is gonna make us.

00:45:13
Speaker 2: So they also could have. They also could have gone back to it because they still have the camera roll are it's probably showing it. So they also didn't want to probably make a Cleveland fan look bad. Why because they're Cleveland. They don't have that many fans. They would see it, they would see a check the attendance rubbers. I'm just saying like they'll.

00:45:37
Speaker 1: Be like, guys, that's Reginald who sits in seat whatever, has a half season package. We can't do that