Cannonball Run (1981) vs Smokey and the Bandit (1977): Part 2

<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, everybody to the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcasts.
<v Speaker 1>We are on part two of our Smoking in the
<v Speaker 1>Bandit versus Cannonball Run episodes. Jason, how you doing, man?
<v Speaker 2>I'm good man. Let's just do the checklist real quick.
<v Speaker 1>All right? You ready? Yeah? Okay?
<v Speaker 2>Let's see here, zipper, most of the way down.
<v Speaker 1>Where's beer?
<v Speaker 2>Ready to go? Rosary bleeds ready to go? No smoking
<v Speaker 2>in the rearview mirror. Let's put the hammer down and
<v Speaker 2>give it hip.
<v Speaker 1>Let's shove those rosary bleeds right up your nose.
<v Speaker 3>Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely you Can't Be
<v Speaker 3>Serious Podcast, discussing and debating the iconic and the forgotten
<v Speaker 3>of eighties and nineties pop culture with your co hosts
<v Speaker 3>James D. Graves and Jason Colivin.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Shirley You Can't Be
<v Speaker 1>Serious Podcasts. Jason, are you ready to jump back in? Okay?
<v Speaker 2>Are we flip back to Cannibal Run? Are we still
<v Speaker 2>unspoken the band?
<v Speaker 1>Hey? Man, I'm just here for the ride, right These
<v Speaker 1>movies are about the ride, and that's what I'm here
<v Speaker 1>for the ride?
<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, it's it's a crime that we have
<v Speaker 2>made it this far in the podcast without talking about
<v Speaker 2>one of the funniest characters in Canniball Run, Captain Chaos.
<v Speaker 1>Dun Dun, Dunn.
<v Speaker 2>How can we forget to talk about him?
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, not him again.
<v Speaker 2>Be long.
<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody. I'm Captain Chaos and this is my friend Kato.
<v Speaker 1>Say hello Kato.
<v Speaker 2>Dom Delawise as his alternate identity. Captain Chaos is the
<v Speaker 2>funniest character in Canniball Run. The interesting thing about Captain
<v Speaker 2>Chaos for me is that despite being hilarious and despite
<v Speaker 2>being obviously Victor Princey's stronger half, he really does have
<v Speaker 2>special powers, Like whenever he takes over the ambulance, the
<v Speaker 2>ambulance drives faster right. One of the funniest scenes in
<v Speaker 2>the movie when they get in that big joint fight
<v Speaker 2>at the very end, when the road is blocked and
<v Speaker 2>they take on the biker gang, He's beating the crap
<v Speaker 2>out of Captain Chaos is beating up bikers left and right.
<v Speaker 1>And I will say this, he takes the time to
<v Speaker 1>give the movie heart that was missing in other scenes.
<v Speaker 1>The conversation he has about how Captain Chaos would come
<v Speaker 1>and save him when he was getting bullied as a kid.
<v Speaker 1>It just it moves you. You're just like, ah, all right,
<v Speaker 1>I can I get it now. I understand everybody needs
<v Speaker 1>their own Captain Chaos.
<v Speaker 2>Captain Chaos actually Victor Charms, Sarah Fussett, Roger Moore playing
<v Speaker 2>Seymour Goldfarb playing Roger Moore playing James Bond.
<v Speaker 1>So the music you know when the when the Aston
<v Speaker 1>Martin pulls up for the race, you hear that them
<v Speaker 1>Nan And how Needham said was he got within one
<v Speaker 1>note of being sued over that one. Kubby Brockley talked
<v Speaker 1>to holl Needham about this. They I guess they knew
<v Speaker 1>each other pretty well, and we saw that scene. He
<v Speaker 1>was not happy about what was going on. And it
<v Speaker 1>was actually in the contracts for future James Bond movies
<v Speaker 1>you may not spoof James Bond in any shape or
<v Speaker 1>form in any of your movies. I think I like
<v Speaker 1>James Bond better in this movie than in any other
<v Speaker 1>Roger Moore James Bond movie. Wow.
<v Speaker 2>Wow right?
<v Speaker 1>Did you did you play spy Hunter when you're a
<v Speaker 1>kid at the video game sick? Yes? Oh my gosh.
<v Speaker 1>I loved the oil slicks and the smoke screens and
<v Speaker 1>the bombs that came out. But yeah, and as far
<v Speaker 1>as James Bond cars go, the Aston Martin is the
<v Speaker 1>coolest car that they've ever had.
<v Speaker 2>No way, no way. Yes, I'll take the Lotus that
<v Speaker 2>transforms into a submarine from the Spy Who Loved Me
<v Speaker 2>any Day?
<v Speaker 1>So dumb. It's like Joe episode. Cars in this.
<v Speaker 2>Movie only worked for two or three days, right, They
<v Speaker 2>needed them at the beginning, they needed them at the end,
<v Speaker 2>and they needed them just kind of to do their
<v Speaker 2>thing in the middle.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>I think Roger Moore worked like four days.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, Yeah, I think he was probably a longer bit
<v Speaker 1>on the shoot. And he would have a different girl
<v Speaker 1>with him. They never explained that at all, but somehow
<v Speaker 1>he had a different girl with him every single time.
<v Speaker 1>And then one of them seems like she's from Russia
<v Speaker 1>or something, the one where it's like the smoke comes
<v Speaker 1>into the car. So the voice is not actually that
<v Speaker 1>woman's voice. Yes, she sounds like Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle,
<v Speaker 1>because she is Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle. It's that
<v Speaker 1>lady coming in to do the voice.
<v Speaker 2>June Foura did the voice of Rocky from Bullwinkle.
<v Speaker 1>She did.
<v Speaker 2>She also does the voice of Granny from Looney Tunes.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I mean she's a voice actress. She's done tons of Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pull in here and get some beer,
<v Speaker 1>all right.
<v Speaker 2>Run is one of the first movies to do product placement.
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was very interesting. They were paid money
<v Speaker 2>to show Budweiser beer, uh huh, slurpees, Goodyear tires, and
<v Speaker 2>sell eleven.
<v Speaker 1>So that scene they've got the plane, How awesome is
<v Speaker 1>that scene. I mean, you got to think they don't
<v Speaker 1>do stuff like that anymore. They don't out there doing
<v Speaker 1>those crazy stunts because we have CGI and we'll just
<v Speaker 1>see gi it all in. But back in nineteen eighty one,
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to fly a plane and land it
<v Speaker 1>on the city streets of a small town, you had
<v Speaker 1>to actually fly a plane and land it on the
<v Speaker 1>streets of a small town. And so there's power lines
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So they had to have a stunt pilot
<v Speaker 1>come in, get it under the wire, and then also
<v Speaker 1>stop the plane. I mean, you've got marks. When you're
<v Speaker 1>shooting stuff. The camera doesn't just go everywhere. It's not
<v Speaker 1>a handheld and so the plane's got to stop on
<v Speaker 1>a specific spot. So when you see that butt of
<v Speaker 1>the plane jumping up, it's because the pilot is trying
<v Speaker 1>to do everything he can to get it stopped in
<v Speaker 1>the mark. They then Dom Delauise hops out, just grabs
<v Speaker 1>some beer and a slurpy why not. Yeah, And so
<v Speaker 1>at that point that he and this Dom Delouise is
<v Speaker 1>such a pro, he's walking in and then the wind
<v Speaker 1>from the plane blows every that was not part, that
<v Speaker 1>was not scripted. It just happened. The plane was actually there.
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it moves to move around and it
<v Speaker 1>blows everything all over the place. Not phased a bit,
<v Speaker 1>just grabs his beer.
<v Speaker 2>Do you know that? Hell, Ninam and nol Ruddy, who
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned before, liked Terry Bradshaw and Mill Tillis's chemistry
<v Speaker 2>so much that they actually proposed a TV show for
<v Speaker 2>these guys.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were Actually.
<v Speaker 2>It was all set to go, ready to green light it,
<v Speaker 2>and they're supposed to like get the green light on Monday,
<v Speaker 2>and on Sunday the guy at the studio was fired. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and so that was all scrapped perfect. Hey, Terry Bradshaw
<v Speaker 2>is fresh off of Super Bowl winning victories with the
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Steelers and.
<v Speaker 1>Mel Tillis is a big country star. And Al Ruddy
<v Speaker 1>is also in the movie. Did you know that he's
<v Speaker 1>one of the cambel guys in the movie who asked
<v Speaker 1>for the camel cigarette. I'm the camel schmuck Winston, which
<v Speaker 1>is again hilarious. You got Jamie Farr, and you know
<v Speaker 1>Jamie Farr is a Jewish guy playing an Arab and
<v Speaker 1>Al Ruddy is this Jewish guy. Al Ruddy is the
<v Speaker 1>guy who produced The Godfather. I mean, that's pretty freaking awesome.
<v Speaker 1>That's incredible. There is a great we talk podcasts here
<v Speaker 1>all the time. And one of the podcasts that Jason
<v Speaker 1>introduced me to long ago is called Revisionist History and
<v Speaker 1>it's by Malcolm Gladwell and it is fantastic. And there's
<v Speaker 1>an episode that when you're done with this episode go
<v Speaker 1>check it out. It's called Hutspa versus hut Spa. It's
<v Speaker 1>kind of it's like they did a Shirley podcast thing
<v Speaker 1>one versus the but it's about Al Ruddy, among others,
<v Speaker 1>and producing this movie and how the Mafia, the mafioso
<v Speaker 1>were completely against the idea of producing a movie about
<v Speaker 1>the Mafia, and we're it was basically kind of like
<v Speaker 1>one of those threats, like one of those offers you
<v Speaker 1>can't refuse kind of deal. But al Ruddy says to
<v Speaker 1>Mario Pusa, why don't you go talk to these And
<v Speaker 1>then Mario Pousa's like, no, these guys hate me. I
<v Speaker 1>don't want to go talk to him. He's like, I fine,
<v Speaker 1>I go talk to him. So Already goes to talk
<v Speaker 1>to him and he says, you just read the script.
<v Speaker 1>Just read the script, and if you got any problems
<v Speaker 1>with it, we will change it. And so they you know,
<v Speaker 1>he's sitting there with these mafiosa guys and they're looking
<v Speaker 1>at it and they're on page one. They're like, what
<v Speaker 1>does fade in mean? So they get like a couple
<v Speaker 1>of pages in and they're like, they're not going to
<v Speaker 1>He knows they're not going to read a fifty five
<v Speaker 1>page script, and they're just like, you know what, I
<v Speaker 1>like you, We trust you. Just would you do this?
<v Speaker 1>Just just don't use the word in the movie. And
<v Speaker 1>Already's like, okay, and he knows the script and he
<v Speaker 1>knows the word mafia is used once in the whole movie.
<v Speaker 1>One time. He just scratches it out, scratches that one
<v Speaker 1>line out, and they've got their movie, which is why
<v Speaker 1>you know now the word mafia never comes up in
<v Speaker 1>the movie The Godfather. That's interesting.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's cool. All right, So I gotta ask you.
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen Cannonball Run Too?
<v Speaker 1>Yes? And I so I can remember two things about
<v Speaker 1>Cannonball Run Too because it's been many years. Number one
<v Speaker 1>is that draws from the James Bond movies. Richard Kee
<v Speaker 1>is now the one driving with Jackie chan right.
<v Speaker 2>Yes.
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing I can remember is Jamie
<v Speaker 1>Farr being flashed by a woman in a fur coat. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>and you can you can guess why I remember that.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder why. That's okay, So that came out in
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty four.
<v Speaker 1>We talked about it briefly.
<v Speaker 2>It had Frank Sinatra as the chairman of the board
<v Speaker 2>or whatever he was in that. The Lambeau Girls included
<v Speaker 2>Catherine Bach from Dukes of Hazzard another Dukes of Hazzard. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>so you've seen Canniball Run two? Have you seen Canniball
<v Speaker 2>Run Three?
<v Speaker 1>I don't recognize that.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's why you don't recognize it all right, it's
<v Speaker 2>called speed Zone. Came out in nineteen eighty nine. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>the only character that you may recognize, Jamie Farr returns
<v Speaker 2>as the chich that's it. Yes, while we're talking about
<v Speaker 2>how Needham and Burt Reynolds, did you know that once
<v Speaker 2>upon a time in Hollywood, the Leonardo DiCaprio character and
<v Speaker 2>the Brad Pitt character are based on the relationship that
<v Speaker 2>how Needham and Burt Reynolds had.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to a degree, those two characters are based on
<v Speaker 1>a few people. But yeah, the how need Burt Reynolds
<v Speaker 1>relationship was definitely inspiration for that. Because Quentin Tarantino loves
<v Speaker 1>holl Needham loves him.
<v Speaker 2>Really, that's cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, speaking.
<v Speaker 2>Of strange fans, you know who loves Smoking the Bandit? No,
<v Speaker 2>Alfred Hitchcock loves Smoking the Bandit really, Yeah, it was
<v Speaker 2>one of his guilty pleasures. Also, comedian Norm McDonald says
<v Speaker 2>Smoking the Bandit is his favorite all time movie.
<v Speaker 1>I'm still marveling over Alfred hitchcock.
<v Speaker 2>Guilty pleasure, according to his daughter. Okay, so Smoking the
<v Speaker 2>Bandit has got lots of cussing in it, right, pretty
<v Speaker 2>mild ones, but things like tick turd and some band
<v Speaker 2>and he calls Junior a hit pile of monkey nuts, which.
<v Speaker 1>Is, do not use that kind of language.
<v Speaker 2>My favorite thing is when he says, uh, nobody makes
<v Speaker 2>me look like Apostles packer. Yeah, but what about that?
<v Speaker 2>What he's like shud joy ass.
<v Speaker 1>My favorite part. Took the life from me. It's terrible.
<v Speaker 2>The original actors redubbed their own lines for television.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>They dubbed in the clean words yes step for Jackie Gleeson.
<v Speaker 2>Actor Henry Cordon, who voiced Fred Flintstone, was used to
<v Speaker 2>replace a lot of Sheriff Justice's dialogue, right, which is
<v Speaker 2>funny because Fred Flintstone is basically a complete copy of
<v Speaker 2>Ralph Crampton from The Honeymooners.
<v Speaker 1>Right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But that's why when you're watching the clean version
<v Speaker 2>of Smoking the Bandit, you're like, is that Jackie Gleeson?
<v Speaker 2>Is that Fred Flintstone? I'm not exactly sure. Okay, here's
<v Speaker 2>I just have to get these lines out. These are
<v Speaker 2>some of the funniest lines of Smoking the Bandit All. Right,
<v Speaker 2>When Jackie Gleeson says, what we're dealing with here is
<v Speaker 2>a complete lack of respect for the law.
<v Speaker 1>They no way that you came from my lords, we
<v Speaker 1>get back home. Punch Yo, Ma, punch Jr. Mama right
<v Speaker 1>in the mouth. But I'm in a hot speed for soup.
<v Speaker 1>Don't you hear good? I hear perfectly. The fact that
<v Speaker 1>you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
<v Speaker 1>German's got nothing to do with it.
<v Speaker 3>What do you say?
<v Speaker 2>God, We could go all day all this stuff, But
<v Speaker 2>I like when Bandit says he's going to drop off
<v Speaker 2>the little dolly at the choke and puke. So when
<v Speaker 2>we go on ski trips, whenever we're ready to stop,
<v Speaker 2>everybody says, okay, it's time to stop the choking puke.
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk a little bit about the reception of these movies.
<v Speaker 2>So we talked that Smoking the Man a huge success
<v Speaker 2>in the United States, right, humongous success.
<v Speaker 1>Right, But on its opening night it was not like
<v Speaker 1>they The first screening that they did, they did in
<v Speaker 1>New York City, and the audience didn't like it, and
<v Speaker 1>the studio suddenly got very concerned and they said, listen,
<v Speaker 1>this is not our crowd. Let us let's take it
<v Speaker 1>down south and see how the folks react down there.
<v Speaker 1>And then, of course, once they did that. It was like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we found our demographic down here. The folks up in
<v Speaker 1>New England don't get this kind of humor like we do.
<v Speaker 2>Cannonball Run was a huge success as well, not quite
<v Speaker 2>as big as Smoking the Bandit, but sixth highest moneymaker
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty one.
<v Speaker 1>Which is not bad given that you've got Superman two
<v Speaker 1>and All Star Lost Arc coming out within that same
<v Speaker 1>short time period.
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, Cannibal Run was produced by Golden Harvest, which is
<v Speaker 2>a famous Hong Kong movie studio. Yeah, they made the
<v Speaker 2>movie Enter the Dragon, and that's really how Jackie Chen and.
<v Speaker 1>Michael Hoi get involved. Yeah, this was the first movie.
<v Speaker 1>This was the first English speaking movie that Jackie Chan
<v Speaker 1>was in, and he was brilliant. He gets to show
<v Speaker 1>off his karate and stuff. But interestingly, like they're supposed
<v Speaker 1>to be from Japan, even though they're from China, both
<v Speaker 1>of these guys.
<v Speaker 2>Right, he knew who we forgot to mention, and I
<v Speaker 2>would kick myself. We forgot the two Lambow girls who
<v Speaker 2>managed to.
<v Speaker 1>What I was just about to say, Yes, we can't
<v Speaker 1>forget her because I was thinking, oh, we're stilling Smoky
<v Speaker 1>in the Bandit. But yeah, our throwback to Superman.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Miss Testmucker is the female highway.
<v Speaker 1>Patrolman wearing an Oklahoma Highway patrol uniform better than any
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma Highway patrolman has ever worn that uniform before. I
<v Speaker 1>gotta say, well, hello, hot pants, I don't suppose you
<v Speaker 1>have a driver's license tuck down in there somewhere.
<v Speaker 2>Do you the same cleavage that shut down the US military?
<v Speaker 2>We love Valerie Perine.
<v Speaker 1>Put evidence in the car.
<v Speaker 2>You did that on purpose?
<v Speaker 1>You'll ask him less. Okay, So when mel Tillis and
<v Speaker 1>Terry Bradshaw are driving the car at the beginning of
<v Speaker 1>the movie, do you know what it says on the
<v Speaker 1>front on the hood of the car? Right? And so
<v Speaker 1>then what happens to the hood of the car is
<v Speaker 1>that it flips up. They're talking about not being able
<v Speaker 1>to see which then they drive this car into this
<v Speaker 1>pool area and drive the car into the pool and
<v Speaker 1>all of these girls that are standing around at the
<v Speaker 1>pool are actually the Hawaiian Tropic girls.
<v Speaker 2>More reason to hang out with hel Neaedam.
<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, Hal said that the crew felt really nice
<v Speaker 1>whenever they got to get together in the evenings at
<v Speaker 1>the bar. At that hotel, and all of the Hawaiian
<v Speaker 1>tropic girls were there having beers with all of the crew. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>we have not talked at all about Jack Eelum. I
<v Speaker 1>gotta think about this carefully before I just come out
<v Speaker 1>there bold and brassy and say he's the need's part
<v Speaker 1>of this movie. But if he's not the funniest part
<v Speaker 1>of this movie, he's pretty dang close. I'm honored, sir,
<v Speaker 1>I'm doctor Nicholas Health.
<v Speaker 2>I think he's the funniest part of this movie. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>he's the funniest character in this movie.
<v Speaker 1>So he had been. He had been kind of the
<v Speaker 1>bad guy and a bunch of the old westerns, and
<v Speaker 1>and how Needham had gotten to know him through those
<v Speaker 1>movies as well. Hal Needham and John Wayne were best
<v Speaker 1>of friends, and so he met Jack elom through that process.
<v Speaker 1>By the way, how Needham at some point in one
<v Speaker 1>of John Wayne's movies was telling the director, he's not
<v Speaker 1>throwing his punch right, which I can't even imagine saying
<v Speaker 1>about John Wayne. I'm gonna correct his punch. But it
<v Speaker 1>was not. It was not about what the punch was.
<v Speaker 1>It was about how he was throwing it. With relationship
<v Speaker 1>to how the camera was because you could tell the
<v Speaker 1>way he was doing it that it wasn't a real punch.
<v Speaker 1>And so how Needam, despite the directors telling him not to,
<v Speaker 1>went to John Wayne and said, you're not on your
<v Speaker 1>punch right, and then proceeded to show him how to
<v Speaker 1>do it. And then apparently how Needham had gotten his
<v Speaker 1>kind of party ideas from John Wayne, because John Wayne
<v Speaker 1>would always have these big parties in the evenings with
<v Speaker 1>all of the people from the movie. And when he
<v Speaker 1>went to John Wayne's party that night, John Wayne came
<v Speaker 1>up to him and had had I had a few
<v Speaker 1>drinks and puts him in a bit of a headlock
<v Speaker 1>and then starts giving him a scobnob and he's like,
<v Speaker 1>don't you ever embarrass me in front of my crew
<v Speaker 1>like that again. And how Needham's not a super big
<v Speaker 1>guy and John Wayne was, and how Nea was like, yes, sir,
<v Speaker 1>never again. And from he said, from that moment on,
<v Speaker 1>they were the best of friends for the remainder of
<v Speaker 1>both of their careers. That's cool, Okay.
<v Speaker 2>So Jack Elin plays doctor Nicholas then Helse Nicholas van
<v Speaker 2>Helsing right, director prosor of proctology at the Nashville of faith,
<v Speaker 2>healings goal. I can't. I cannot do him in justice.
<v Speaker 2>But for whatever reason, he has one eyeball that looks
<v Speaker 2>one way and one all it looks another way. And
<v Speaker 2>he is the funniest, scariest, weirdest looking doctor.
<v Speaker 1>He sees Fara faucet for the first time. Oh my god,
<v Speaker 1>the work specimen. Are we ready to go to Final Judgment?
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for Final Judgment? Okay, all right, we cannot
<v Speaker 1>do these movies to justice. We will sit here and
<v Speaker 1>laugh at funny things for the remainder of the night
<v Speaker 1>if we keep going on. So let's go. Let's talk
<v Speaker 1>about Final Judgment. Got two brilliant movies here, but which
<v Speaker 1>one of them is the best?
<v Speaker 2>You go first, Okay, let me just talk about what
<v Speaker 2>these movies mean to me. Both of these movies are
<v Speaker 2>an absolute home run. I can put either one on
<v Speaker 2>at any given time and laugh the entire way through.
<v Speaker 2>I love them both, But for me, I have more
<v Speaker 2>fun when I watch Cannonball Run, which will be blasphemous
<v Speaker 2>for most of my friends because they know me as
<v Speaker 2>a smoking the bandit guy. All right, So I feel
<v Speaker 2>like I need to defend my choice here a little bit. Right,
<v Speaker 2>the whole world loves Smoking the Bandit better than Cannonball Run.
<v Speaker 2>Even though I think most people love both of these movies,
<v Speaker 2>it's just a given that Smoking the Bandit is more liked. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>So here are my three reasons why Cannonball Run is better.
<v Speaker 2>Number one, star power. You've got Burt Reynolds, Dom de Luiz,
<v Speaker 2>Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, Roger Moore, Peter Fonda, Jackie Chan,
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy the Greek, Farah Fawcett. The list continues, this cast.
<v Speaker 1>You had me at Jimmy the Greek. Okay, Greek. I
<v Speaker 1>can't believe one of these does not.
<v Speaker 2>Look all right. Number two reason. Number two reason, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try and say this without trying to sound
<v Speaker 2>like a pig, all right, the number two reason that
<v Speaker 2>Cannibal Run is better than Smoking the Bandit.
<v Speaker 1>There's no way you can say the rest of what
<v Speaker 1>you're about to say without sounding like a pig. There's
<v Speaker 1>no way, obviously, say Sally Field.
<v Speaker 2>Sally Field versus literally. The field of women in Canniball
<v Speaker 2>Run is a mismatch of epic proportions. Here you have
<v Speaker 2>the Bond Girls, which every time we see Roger Moore's
<v Speaker 2>with a different girl, including at the very end when
<v Speaker 2>he actually picks up one of the motorcycle biking girls.
<v Speaker 2>You have the Lambeau girls once again, notice the continuity
<v Speaker 2>airs with their zippers, and then.
<v Speaker 1>You'll think you're right, I'm gonna keep on checking that.
<v Speaker 2>And then you have Farah freaking Faucet, who at the
<v Speaker 2>time in nineteen eighty one.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that she's ever not hot honestly, well,
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, even into old age, she was still smoking.
<v Speaker 2>And number three, the number three reason why Canniball Run
<v Speaker 2>is a more enjoyable movie than Smoking the Bandit, even
<v Speaker 2>though it's just a little bit, because I love Smoking
<v Speaker 2>the Bandit tooth. It's the blue breel at the very end.
<v Speaker 2>The bumpers are fantastic. They are absolutely the funniest part
<v Speaker 2>of that entire movie, and it puts it over the
<v Speaker 2>top for me.
<v Speaker 1>I love that part.
<v Speaker 2>I can watch it over and over and over.
<v Speaker 1>I would say, of your bullet points, that's the strongest
<v Speaker 1>one for sure. The blooper reel is the funniest part
<v Speaker 1>of the movie and potentially the thing that would push
<v Speaker 1>it over Smoking in the Bandit.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, And if I had time, I would take
<v Speaker 2>these rosary bleeds and shove them over your nose. Bleeds,
<v Speaker 2>those bleeds, those bleeds, right. I love the Blooper reel.
<v Speaker 1>It is awesome. That scene they're actually shooting at four
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning, it is, and they're all just
<v Speaker 1>sleep deprived and they can't stop laughing, and Burt Reynolds
<v Speaker 1>is actually hitting don belawise, which is why you see
<v Speaker 1>the genuine fearation, Oh please, don't please.
<v Speaker 2>Hair out.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I love Smoking the Band, Smoking the ban It slows
<v Speaker 2>down a little bit in the middle for me, with
<v Speaker 2>the love story, they take kind of a break from
<v Speaker 2>the full on, full throttle fun fest. I love them both,
<v Speaker 2>but for me, Canniball Run is more fun.
<v Speaker 1>You bet a duck or you're gonna be talking at
<v Speaker 1>your Okay, listen, these these movies defy the logic because
<v Speaker 1>there's virtually no plot. You got, especially with Smoking the Band,
<v Speaker 1>that you got a director that comes on just you know, hey,
<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been the stuntman in a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>movies and maybe Second Unit here and there, so I'm
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to make this movie. And they end
<v Speaker 1>up being Burt Reynolds, who is the biggest star of
<v Speaker 1>the time, his biggest movies and what have you got?
<v Speaker 1>What I mean simply in both movies you have got
<v Speaker 1>fast cars yep, hot women yep, cool guys yep, and
<v Speaker 1>a fight in there knock flat out then, and so
<v Speaker 1>it becomes the perfect movie for any Southern audience. I
<v Speaker 1>guess I don't. I mean it is. It is just
<v Speaker 1>flat out and brilliant. So I'm on the same boat
<v Speaker 1>with you. These are both movies that you can put
<v Speaker 1>on anytime and be happy. But I feel like that
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of the Jurassic Park Jaws scenario, so
<v Speaker 1>that you're picking Cannonball Run because instead of just one shark,
<v Speaker 1>you have like a hundred sharks or whatever. But Jackie
<v Speaker 1>Gleason is so freaking brilliant in this movie. And even
<v Speaker 1>though I can tell that most of the dialogue is improvised,
<v Speaker 1>and give me a minute, these beers are kicking in,
<v Speaker 1>I need to go take a ten one hundred.
<v Speaker 2>Better than.
<v Speaker 1>Even though you can tell that these things are improvd.
<v Speaker 1>The chemistry that's going on between Sally Field and Burt
<v Speaker 1>Reynolds is better than the fair face hat scene with
<v Speaker 1>Burt Reynolds, which seems kind of contrived and as funny
<v Speaker 1>as all of the parts are in Cannonball Run, none
<v Speaker 1>of them are as funny as half of the lines
<v Speaker 1>of Bufford, t Justice and Jackie Leson. So I gotta go.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta Smoke in the Band on this one. And
<v Speaker 1>just as a backup for that, I watched this with
<v Speaker 1>my kids, and the kids felt like Cannonball Run might
<v Speaker 1>be dragging a bit, and with Smoking in the bandit
<v Speaker 1>they were. They were fully invested for the whole time.
<v Speaker 1>So I think Smokey holds up a bit better than
<v Speaker 1>Cannonball does. Okay, that's fine politically, one of them really
<v Speaker 1>hold up politically.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, when my son my I have a sixteen
<v Speaker 2>year old, he walked through the room while I was
<v Speaker 2>watching these and he I was watching Smoking the Band
<v Speaker 2>at the time. He walked by and he said, this
<v Speaker 2>is such a freaking great movie. My sixteen year old
<v Speaker 2>said that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you know it's interesting you We posted something
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook a little bit ago with like, how would
<v Speaker 1>you recast recast Cannonball Run? And the overwhelming response, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>we got a few folks who are like, oh, hey,
<v Speaker 1>i'd put you know, Seth Rogan in this part, or
<v Speaker 1>you know, Ryan Reynolds's part. But the overwhelming response was
<v Speaker 1>you cannot recast this movie, don't test, you cannot be
<v Speaker 1>made again, and it's already perfect, don't mess with it.
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I think they're right. I think you
<v Speaker 1>can't redo this movie. You know how Needham passed away
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. But even that, even in that
<v Speaker 1>commentary which I couldn't tell exactly when it was that
<v Speaker 1>they did it, but he was talking to Al Ruddy about, Hey,
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about doing another Cannonball run? And
<v Speaker 1>Ruddy's like, heck, yeah, I'd do it. Yeah. So, I
<v Speaker 1>mean almost all of those folks are gone at this point. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean Al Ruddy happens. I think he's ninety, He's
<v Speaker 1>really old. But how Needham's gone, Burn Rols has gone,
<v Speaker 1>Farah Facets has gone, Don Delawize is gone, Dean Martin's gone,
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Davis Junior is gone. Almost all of those guys
<v Speaker 1>is gone. Yeah, And so I'm falling in line with
<v Speaker 1>the folks who who are followers of us on Facebook
<v Speaker 1>and this movie just cannot be redone. It is in
<v Speaker 1>a glass capsule for the time that it was made
<v Speaker 1>and should probably remain there.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so much talent in the cab it's just unbelievable.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, a guy tenths down on the list and
<v Speaker 2>talent is Terry Bradshawn.
<v Speaker 1>He won Super Bowls for the Steelers, you know so,
<v Speaker 1>and did a great job with this part too. Oh
<v Speaker 1>he's great, He's great. I'll probably get ripped up in
<v Speaker 1>this one.
<v Speaker 2>I know that Smoking the band and has held a
<v Speaker 2>little bit higher in the public regard, But for me,
<v Speaker 2>Canniball Run is a movie that I would like to
<v Speaker 2>step through the TV screen and live in that world.
<v Speaker 2>You know, nothing but fun and partying and fast cars
<v Speaker 2>and jumps and girls and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I can't falter from that. It does. Of
<v Speaker 1>the two movies, it does make me want to be
<v Speaker 1>a part of the fun more than Smokey does. It's
<v Speaker 1>just that Smoky gets me laughing out loud more often
<v Speaker 1>than Canniball does. All right, let us know what you think.
<v Speaker 1>Am I way off base like in Canniball Run? Maybe
<v Speaker 1>I am. I know Smoking Band is great, but tell
<v Speaker 1>us where you come down on this. Are you with
<v Speaker 1>d Are you with me?
<v Speaker 2>Are we both crazy? Weigh in all right, that's going
<v Speaker 2>to close it out for the Smoking the Bandit Versus
<v Speaker 2>Cannonball run episodes. We'll see you next time.
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you guys next week.
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