Shakur Stevenson calls out Ryan Garcia & Devin Haney, talks dominant performance vs. Teofimo Lopez

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Speaker 1: If they want to make it happen.

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Speaker 2: I'm down, but I know, Oh shit, I didn't know we was out here broker in fights, all right, Jo, what's rock?

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Speaker 1: Hard? Rock? Best? Yo? But it got called out for love it. Let's get ready to rumball. What's up, y'all? That's your boy, Joe Craft the jat your boy Jada.

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Speaker 4: Medalists, five time world champion, number three pounds of pound gradedt fight in the world, undefeated professional record, multi division world tight.

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Speaker 5: How this young fight on the plane fucking right just made history in the world's greatest arena. Ladies and gentlemen getting it off for some course, stevis.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Joe with Jaye.

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Speaker 3: That showed my brother, you put on a hell of a spectacular performance.

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Speaker 4: Now I've been, I've been.

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Speaker 1: We fan of boxes. We fancy yours.

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Speaker 3: We had Eddie EARNOI and after speaking to him and having him on the interview, he maybe look at the fight in a different way.

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Speaker 1: You know, people love boxing for different things.

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Speaker 3: Some people want to see an excited fight.

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Speaker 6: Some people want to see some crazy stuff happened this, that, but that. If you learn about the sports, you can learn the difference in different from boxes. I was already a fan of you when he broke down what.

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Speaker 3: You do and how you do and if you was to just be you in that fight, what was gonna happen and.

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Speaker 1: Everything he said.

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Speaker 3: I was in my crip going, oh, this is fucking trains. He's like, it made him look like it.

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Speaker 5: Uh, just Sumer, come loud of your boxing and you put on.

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Speaker 1: The spectacular, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, it's not gonna be he's gonna be born, but he's cold, is not gonna get hit, He's gonna meet the other guy and everything. I'm like, Yo, this is fucking amazing how he said, you know, I mean not that's maybe that's why he's in his profession and we do what we do. But congratulations is nothing.

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Speaker 7: But did you play that out just the way of waking your head. I knew it was a tough fight, like I knew he was a good fighter, but HER's time, I said, there watched him. I'm like, shit, he makes so much mistakes to it, I'm gonna capitalize off of every mistake. So honestly, everything I seen on film and howl Clay, what I was going to do, it happened on fighting. Everything like from first round to twelve. I knew like how it was gonna be. But he'll go fight. I give a respect and I appreciate him for the opportunity, so respecting him.

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Speaker 8: But you know I always got he gets sided to be saying the safe story all the time. Famous fight Floyd Mayweather. What the greatest of wartime? Maybe grace.

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Speaker 7: He was losing his fight to some Mexican guy in about the six rounds. He switched up the whole shit on him and won. And at the end when he won, he started talking about the old video tips Jeck Dempsey this that I had to switch it up like this and this and that.

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Speaker 1: Were you going there?

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Speaker 2: If you play it out of your head, suppose he switched up the whole shit on you, what would how would you have a just did to him? Switch it up? It's old because if I was a box I would have switched up the whole ship. I would have been like, Okay, I know he got my number like this, I gotta do something different if I'm If I'm being.

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Speaker 7: Real with you, it's nothing he could have did that night that was gonna change the outcome of what I was doing. Like I already had my mindset on him me dominating this fight and me winning this fight, So it didn't matter what he did.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna be me. I was gonna be come that night. Hmmm.

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Speaker 2: I thought the way I always think about it, right. I used to say, back in the days, the guy was Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson to put you to sleep quick, yep. And I always said, Yo, I have to fight Mike Tyson like in the street club whatever. I got the hook on him so fast and hopefully get lucky.

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Speaker 1: Yo. Nah, I ain't gonna.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, You're gonna knock me out if I try to fight with him or box or.

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Speaker 1: Something like this. I'm done.

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Speaker 2: So Like the problem with Ta Femo, right, who's a great boxer. Besides his father's father's a whole problem. It's real talk. His father is not.

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Speaker 1: He gotta go, Pop's gotta go, hops gotta go. He was in the corner.

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Speaker 2: I watched the fight he's in the corner, you'll fight back. Do that's not a plan I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Not crazy and ship he was in the other corners, so you probably no, no, but he watching you can't read list you watching that whole fight.

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Speaker 1: I noticed that about you know you watching the corner.

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Speaker 2: You like this the craziest things to you. Losing fight, You're losing. What the fuck is down? I need somebody to say, left Jack cross By, what the fuck is that?

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Speaker 7: My only thing about this though, when he been doing this, his dad been doing this.

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Speaker 1: T O has been just saenough to be able to get away with this hit. No no, no, But with somebody like you, he had to be uh.

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Speaker 2: He had to respect somebody's opinion and he had to have a real coach game with a game plan.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna last.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't gonna make it, No, but you got guarantee, you gotta under at least have been something because he was the problem that happened with Tia thieneboat right, well.

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Speaker 1: You got his ask hold up.

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Speaker 2: They gassed him right, so he was ring fighter number one fighter in it.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't gassed or he was a good fighter. Listen what I'm saying. He no, they gassed him and called them number one. It look like he was a fighter. You number one.

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Speaker 2: He's thinking he's going jab for jab, move for move technique particular.

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Speaker 1: That's what he got it off of.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened with you fabulous on that on that versus we never talk about that. Fab try to go in there and put freestyles in all that where he should have just been doing the fucking hit mania.

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Speaker 1: He went to your game plan. You understand what I'm saying. So when you he try to prove that he believed.

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Speaker 2: It, Yo, I got enough skills, is Shaquille Stevenson, I could go jack for jather.

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Speaker 1: He fucked up. He should have won it. Ain't tried to like hif you up or something.

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Speaker 7: But he he's used to having enough skills to where he fight guys and he's in control, like he's used to doing things that.

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Speaker 1: It's like.

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Speaker 2: He's but every now and then you gotta elevate, just like we gotta elevate every now and then you gotta look at yourself.

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Speaker 1: Him.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that he's a he's a great fighter. He could look at it whether he can't fuck with you or not. You gotta try to look at his corner and he needs to step up that.

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Speaker 3: Every now and this fuck you gotta let him finish. What's up with Bud? How important was Bud to you for this fight? And you know in your career period.

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Speaker 1: Yo, it's crazy.

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Speaker 7: He kind of gave me, like I ain't gonna say he gave me the gameplay, but he kind of text me something that kind of helped. So when he text it to me, and I looked at what he said, but I've been watching him and already was thinking the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It kind of confirmed what I knew.

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Speaker 7: So I'm like, okay, just stick with this, stick with this on fight night and it's gonna bother him. And then on fight night when I did that ship, I'm like, damn, this ship is fucking him up. He cannot stop this ship. This ship is bothered. He didn't know what to do, Like his mom just went into the whole.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ta I'm gonna tell you how you really and you let in the most amounted jebs. I don't know. I'm gonna tell you what fellow.

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Speaker 2: I was like, if I wass tee a female I'll tell you where to fuck me up. You smiling the whole That ship would have had me, dumb type, you smiling, thought he I'm I would have been. I had to bring the machete out in the ring, fucking the places going down in that picture, that shit.

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Speaker 1: You smiling at him.

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Speaker 3: Boston is ass now with with a fight like it's no, it's not a you landed two hundred and fifty two jabs might make some noise. I thought I was landed that most in my last fight. It was it was too it was two thirty something street fight, too thirty something. Come on down, two hundred and thirty two jabs.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that it's a long ass.

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Speaker 2: I believe you race KACKI cob the block faster than the two hundred and thirty jazz. You know, once beat up a karate kid. You seen your man. I'm not saying that kidding me. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying now, no, no, no, I put some niggas down to knock him out. Your yonkers, I touched the pavement. What were you talking about?

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Speaker 1: You yo?

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Speaker 2: You on your ship today? He must have smoked some ship from he still got Cali. He still got Cali casting. Brother, you fasting? I love it, man, that's great man.

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Speaker 1: I'm fast too fast.

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Speaker 2: You ever seen fat fat joke five hundred Yeah, like that real from the back of like the Kingpin lean back. Yeah, I lost all that ship fast once a week, Keto. You know I'm pitching the shutout man, No glizzies, I'm doing jail at the game, the nothing tuna fish salad. I'm not thanks for going that go dying PEPSI maybe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I snuck in the diace sunk just here too. That's part of that.

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Speaker 2: It's going I'm going leaning back. I'm going light, but I'm getting back on the stuff. But you know I'm working on it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: You see I'm drinking water. You know what I'm saying. In any case, I've seen something and we know it. I don't care where's sat, where you go whatever. When a Puerto Rican see that flag somewhere, I don't care. If I'm driving in the highway and it's a flag out the project window, it's something.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Batman sign. Let me ask the brother, why did you put the Puerto Rican flag on your shorts? Shit?

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Speaker 7: I put it on my shirts because like people don't realize I am, Like that's my blood, so like like I mean a Puerto Rican.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my blood. Yes, but let me explain it though. Now let me explain though, let me explain it. Though my dad knew you had that with.

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Speaker 7: My dad is a Puerto Rican, so I never really but I never really got to really be around him, like my entire life.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't in my life, so forget it.

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Speaker 7: It was hard to like really claim that I'm Puerto Rican or even say it because like I really am, but I don't know my dad. But when I got to meet him, then I got to like build a relationship with him. He died, so it's like I've never really kind.

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Speaker 1: Of you feel me. So for me, it was hard to really like have that like just embrace it. But now I'm like, fuck it. It is what it is. Part of my blood, is part of who I am. And let it be known.

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Speaker 2: If we pop and be talking to cousin, you know, we in a fluidity cat man, Nah, let me tell you something, man, I was so proud of that flag on there, but sometimes you got black boxes that grew up with so many Puerto Ricans that when you go to the gym, they don't have a Puerto Rican flag. Like even Floyd used to have the Puerto Rican flag Mianda, but he wasn't Puerto Rican. But when I seen that, I said, gotta see what this about right here, because we need that in the system. You know, we we you know, Puerto Ricans, my mom's and pops. My moms used to throw a party if it rains my projects, it's raining, okay, bring out the pet Ninga's on out here South South Wednesdays, like they throw a party for everything.

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Speaker 1: But in a.

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Speaker 2: Similar way, my father's Cuban, but I grew up with the Puerto Ricans up here with Cuban family was more in Miami, and so a lot of Cuban fans be like, yo, you say you Cuban now, but you wasn't really. You was like one hundred percent Puerto Rican. I always knew my Cuban family, but I grew up with my Puerto Ricans, say ninety percent of my life ninety five like me. Yeah, like you, but we're proud of you brother either way, man, you are pound for pounds, the best in the game and the only guy I would compare to be the best in the game would be Bud. Yeah, and he retired and I don't feel like you ducking nobody. I see you you you started smiling out.

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Speaker 1: What's so? What kind of been? Oh man? Is he good? Or is the height? Because he looked mean. No, I think it's he's not, like, no skillful fighter, He's not. He don't know ship. Oh no, he's gonna his knowledge is limited.

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Speaker 7: His game plan will be to just use size like you size and bully me or some ship. But like first knowledge and skill and all of the ship that I've been working on since fucking yaha, he don't have that.

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Speaker 1: He don't know what that is. So it's cool fight, but it's levels.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you. He always said, let me tell you, let me tell you. I knew you was gonna be something special. I've seen a clip of you young.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you lost, Yeah the.

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Speaker 3: Ladies interview and you you it, but your passion you was like, yeah, I'm like this thinging on this.

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Speaker 1: He got a different type of he's a different type of animal.

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Speaker 3: Door from a little from a young and like that he's it was so passionate to him, like he's gonna be the change. He's gonna be one of them once. Yeah, for sure when it meant so much to you.

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Speaker 1: At that age, you knew what winning was. That's why you're here where he was at. Now I appreciate that. So I felt something like, you know, all the great fine with that real talk, I ain't gonna lie you had on.

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Speaker 7: You walked a fighter out that, I thought, and I remember I'm in the ring and your song came on that ship came out of fire.

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Speaker 1: I was nervous as hell. I'm like, oh, this is how it.

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Speaker 7: Was, Jamel Henry, Oh yeah, and I forgot what song you play. I'm like the arena went.

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Speaker 1: Crazy with but I was nervous. I'm like, oh shit, they came.

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Speaker 2: Out like actually that that plays the part in the psyche.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't really play a part, but at that moment, it felt like, damn, he kind of out did me right now, Like you.

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Speaker 2: Know, we the first rappers to ever bring a box at in the ring, we ever ever, ever, being big punk, we brought our Felix Trinidad against Dela Hooya ever, Damn, I ain't even know that, And so we performed dead in the middle of Little lit Me in Big.

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Speaker 1: Pint when we came out. We seen the os in that arena.

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Speaker 2: They was like, yo, at the time, were the most popping we got the you know, he's still my idol, Felix Trinidad, and man, what a fucking honor that ship was.

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Speaker 1: So when huh he beat he beat Dela Hooya.

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Speaker 2: You know, Dela Oya do a lot of weird ship now, but he he ain't duck nobody and he was a great champion and so we gotta salute him.

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Speaker 1: But now he's like, you know, he's like all against the nick.

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Speaker 2: It's like I watched Instagram and all the gangster niggas I used to respect.

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Speaker 1: Look crazy on the Integra Instagram.

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Speaker 2: You were like, yo, I thought this was the realest ever nigga looking like a Dodo bird.

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Speaker 1: Right, Phil bringing fin Luci out?

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Speaker 7: Oh no, it was I love that because like his story is shit, Like I think it was more so like the respect level was kind of there, and I fuck with him. Actually, I like when I meet like like like people like y'all, like y'all famous, but y'all like level headed, like regular people that I can have a conversation with y'all type ship.

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Speaker 2: I can't what you mean don't know, like any nigga or girl that think they too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm allergic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah if I go to if I go Bruno Mars, exact, Bruno Mars haf Puerto Rican. When I went to him, I went up to the Bruno man. Fuck Bruno man, you touch the motherfucking nerve. I went up to him that yo, we at a lord show. I'm like, yo, you're Puerto Rican. He was like, yo, I'm a real Puerto Rican. Do never ask me no ship? My dad from Bushwick this and that. He got up. He definitely was high, like on some other ship. And I waited my whole life to meet Bruno Mars and he's half Puerto Rican and that man let me down so bad. And I seen Julie green Walls. She tried to check me, like you know he signed to them, and she was like, yo jaw. I said, you know that boy must have been on some ship because I'm telling you what he did. I ain't gonna get up here and tell you what Mars did. And he ain't do it, that motherfucker. But he fucked out. But now that's like Lucio Lucy was a good person. Like now he's a break y'ay.

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Speaker 1: Y'all kind of remind me of life that.

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Speaker 2: In it, I don't do it. And if somebody full of ship and all that, I walked the other way, I look the other way. I don't even want to be on him.

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Speaker 1: So we go on there. We're gonna All Star weekend.

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Speaker 2: We're going into the game and some selectberties who think, yo, I don't know what y'all think.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. We all human. God is the greatest.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if you like me, you came from ship from nothing welfare christ cheese, So we can't. You can't tell me about my struggle and your struggle, are right?

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Speaker 1: Fine?

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Speaker 2: We all the same kind of people. If you I tell people all the time to be like Yo, Joe, you humble. I'm like, how am I supposed to be? Because I don't know how to be another way?

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Speaker 1: I don't even like people like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't like celebrities that treat people like shit. I don't like celebrities that think they better than everybody. That ship there is the biggest turn off I've ever seen in the world. You could be the most beautiful girl in the world. You think your ship don't stink look, go over there. Don't come by this smelling great guy.

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Speaker 1: Does come with the sideward Trumps goes fire fire fire. Nah.

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Speaker 7: It was a great collabing. I enjoyed doing business with them. I actually got to meet them. They came by the hotel and they showed a lot of love, so I appreciate them too.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 7: We put it together a great fit for this fight, and as the fights go on, i'mna keep getting better on my fits and everything.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully bring kids out. Oh you want to come out now?

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Speaker 2: You were fucking performing for Darren Grant. He got his ass knocked through the roAP. Fuck around Darren Grant. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: Nah, the man come out. He gotta come out with that ship.

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Speaker 2: You pussy you your cousins when you come out for him, you gotta do that one.

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Speaker 1: Right there, it's National TV. Shout out my brother, Edgar Balanga Mad He always my brother. Right there, man, that's my brother.

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Speaker 2: He always tried to come out to my lifestyle and the TV always said he can't do it.

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Speaker 1: I got a song called y'all want It's two Gangster. They won't let them because you got to send the lyrics. No shirt.

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Speaker 2: They won't let them. Now, they wouldn't let them. They wouldn't let them. He tried twenty fights come out to my lifestyle. They be like, nah, we can't.

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Speaker 1: It's too much killing and ship egging my dog though I ain't gonna lie, that's my dog.

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Speaker 3: How important is giving back to the community.

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Speaker 1: Shit? That shit mean everything I enjoy.

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Speaker 7: Like the kids, that's like coming up in the situation that I'm coming up with. Like for me, I had like bought tickets for them and they kind of got publicized. I usually don't do it to do it publicly do it. I usually I don't been doing this like for years and years. But now for me, whereas like with the kids, it's like I just want to show them like it's possible. That's my main thing, showing them like you come from nothing, you come from the slums, but you still can.

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Speaker 1: Get out of that situation with working dedication.

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Speaker 7: And I tried to show them me right there in front and see like, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is I'm not sure if he's a Hall of Famer, but Dave Winfield from the Yankees, shout out Dave Winfield. We used to get in Yankee Stadium with the Dave Winfield Foundation. I've seen that man. It was at the Jordan Party in LA and I dove on his car. Say yo, Dave went Field, he knew who I want to He is a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: I dove on yo. I used to go the Yankee game because this is car.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: But when I'm trying to tell you, we're talking about it was. It was one of the most humbling things I ever did because I lost my mind. This man used to give us tickets to our community center. To go to Yankee Stadium. For US, Yankee Stadium was like just winning. Seeing green grass. The Bronce ain't got green grass. We got the brown shit You going Yankee Stadium, that shit Bromston got green got that same ship, the brown ship, you going Yankee State and that shit green. It's a vibe in there, so you know, shout out to all the athletes that do that. You know what's crazy. I was just with the philanthropy team. I'm working on something really, really big, and you know what's crazy is just now. I was walking over here, I just met with them. Mike Brinkley though, and I said to myself walking over here, I said, just by God, bless you because you're always thinking about the community. You're always thinking about the people, and there is no price that, there is nothing, you know what I'm saying. If we could definitely help and feed people in our community and all that, that's the biggest thing you could do in the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was That was my thing with it too.

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Speaker 7: It's like I never really had nobody to come back to Nook and like stand in front of me and see like like I always heard it, like and there's no disrespect to Shack. I fuck with Shack he from Nook, But always heard about Shaq being from Look and I heard about his I used to go to his movie theater and all that shit. I never really got to see him like up personal to be like, Okay, it's possible, like I could keep doing what I'm doing, but now for me, it's like, shit, I gotta do that for the kids, like I got to like that's my main objective in life, like let them know, like you could get up out of there, like.

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Speaker 1: And that's where it's at. You know, you pass away.

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Speaker 2: God will in one hundred and fifty years from you, and the past is gonna say all your achievements in the ring. But they're really gonna talk about how you help the people. Yeah, motivate the people, get back to the people. They're not gonna say yo head the Rose Royce. They're not gonna talk all that shit. Yeah, they're gonna talk about what you do for the people, how you inspired the community, how you help the people, how you gave back that.

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Speaker 1: That right there, to me is everything you know. I've been doing that.

00:24:49
Speaker 2: I've been rapping what thirty something years.

00:24:53
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a while.

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Speaker 2: And whether it's a little thing like giving computers to school or giving whatever.

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Speaker 1: I lend a hand in.

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Speaker 2: All the time, I got some real big coming in this year, philanthropy, really big coming.

00:25:09
Speaker 1: How the hell did you get into pickle oh? Man? Is that Marty Supreme? How I got into pickleball? About it? No?

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Speaker 7: No, I got into it with J Prince O word no cap J Prince Nice, I swear to God. But he introduced me to prick pickleball. And when he introduced it to me, I'm like, it's all right. And then I kept playing. I'm like, man, I got to get better at this ship. I don't like how he better than me, Like he old and he's way better than me. Something I kind of got like a little obsessive about it and I started playing, like for my free time and ship. But it's actually a fun ass.

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00:28:18
Speaker 2: How do you get tight with Jay Prince? Coming from Newark and he's from out in Texas.

00:28:23
Speaker 7: Really andre Ward, because remember Andrey Ward. Andre Ward was.

00:28:27
Speaker 1: My favorite boxer, so I used to go to his training camps and shit.

00:28:31
Speaker 7: But he was managing I mean, Jay Prince was managing andre Ward at the time, and I met him through him. But then it's another guy, an Tonyo or Leonard that's like my family now. And he introduced me to Jay Farrifer. Like outside of Oaklan. We went to Houston and I met him in the club and I got actually, Yo.

00:28:50
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

00:28:51
Speaker 7: I probably was like, what seventeen eighteen, I'm not supposed to be in the club. But I go through there and they like, uh, shit, you good, you're a J Prince And they take me to a back room and ship he in the backplane of pool with one hand seeing the I'm seeing this nigga, coolest hell and shit, but THEMN I usually got to conversation with him, and as I got to meet him more and more like he a real nigga, Like that's a real nigga, Like I fuck with that nigga, like his sure is and then that's my family for.

00:29:23
Speaker 2: Really, he's a legend. He's a he's super real. He open many dolls and he got his own island. Oh yeah, I don't even for sure I'd have been there.

00:29:33
Speaker 1: I use it.

00:29:34
Speaker 2: I tell him all the time. I don't get jealous. Yeah, I get a spot for sure. So when people that look like us get to certain levels, I look at that, like what I tell you the truth, I'm like, miss something. I don't know if I can have it own the island. That's your owning. The ludicrous on the island too.

00:29:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, that nigga, I see them at all.

00:29:55
Speaker 2: Star said, man, you're always blowing me off with my he own the island? How you you own the island? Jay prints on the island? Man, that's crazy though, Like think about it. I don't I own a lot of things. I don't know, God willing, God blessed. I don't know about my own an island, like the island is Like, that's crazy for sure. Boxes, you said, Andre andre Ward inspire you. Who's some other boxes that that inspired you? And they ain't gotta be your way of fighting. Just boxes that you always looked up to.

00:30:32
Speaker 7: Floyd Mayweather, Terrence Crawford, Panel with It, Sugar Ray, Leonard Man, I fuck with Ousik. I like Usik right now, like ou sick before. I like them overseas dudes. They kind of know boxing at a different level kind of shit. So you know I'm the Tyson fury your hip hop you the Tyson. You know I'm flabby. You know I ain't got no muscles that I knock you out, Like, don't play with me. See, the biggest misconception with Fat Joe is he's fat Joe. You think he gonna bear hug you. No, I'm coming with the fluidity that I'm coming with that that did he bop on you? Boy, I'm like a fat, skinny guy. I'm not gonna grab you. We just gonna go pound for pound, toe to toe. Anybody touched the canvage you lost? So you got hands?

00:31:24
Speaker 1: I used to have hands. I'm not gonna front like I got hands now I had hands. He got a bad We go, we go, we go.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: Project against projects, Yeah, okay, the hum project against project.

00:31:37
Speaker 1: They say, bring out your best guy. I'm not lying to you.

00:31:41
Speaker 2: They bring out fat Joe, and then they bring out some cock diesel guy from the other projects, Like, yo, I'm just fat. Why you gotta fight this guy? Batherfucker six packed up, but I got him every time. Let me tell you I had that fluidity. I was undefeated. Huh, he was undefeated. No, I got my ass whip a million times. Are you crazy? But that's why I don't want to stand right, I don't want to stand I knew this guy, fake gangster guy.

00:32:08
Speaker 1: Huh talking to time fellas.

00:32:12
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I'm a street guy, right, real street guy, respected by the legends in the street. The only thing I did was rap, right, And there's some guys that people respected, and they were gangster, did little time whatever, And they was running around here like they tough. They got they ass whipped one time and never came back outside.

00:32:34
Speaker 1: I don't know where that happens.

00:32:36
Speaker 2: I used to come outside every day with black guys, big nose, big, I don't give a fuck. These guys were tired, like so caught, like so caught, tough guys like acting like you know who you are.

00:32:47
Speaker 1: You got your ass whipped, You ain't come back outside, you pussy.

00:32:51
Speaker 2: Now, we can't we making too many legends out there because you're making me called bum niggas out and giving them a name in the street. And they're you know, you know niggas is famous forgetting they asked with by Fat Joe too.

00:33:04
Speaker 1: You walking bridge playing there, this place is look. I love all of you.

00:33:08
Speaker 2: I respect all the legends, all the street guys. But there's places where the old school street guys go. You know, it's like cheers when yo, this is a stock of one forty seven. This is the guard Yan. Still to this day there's bars that you could go and everybody who has something going on gold any given Sunday, you walking there and be like, yo, that's indeed the guy Fat Joe beat the shit out of and he breasted charges on him. There's always one and every one of those joints you walk in. Rich player walked in there was like, yo, don't look down guy who told him Joey when he beat him up. You know that was thirty years ago, Rich, Please don't stare at him. This this that you know, it's people you beat up, and you know they become legends because you beat him up.

00:33:51
Speaker 1: Who's the toughest fighter you ever fought?

00:33:54
Speaker 7: Toughest fighter I ever thought, Hey, Willie Williams, the Peter, the Mexican that I fought in the car with Edgar that night.

00:34:05
Speaker 1: Yet, dude, Yeah, I seen he was fighting. You. Dude was tough.

00:34:10
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna lie. That was a tough fight. He was willing to do whatever it took to win a fight. So hello, Dad, let me know, like, yeah, you was tough, but I mean I dominated.

00:34:22
Speaker 1: But Ship, it was me.

00:34:25
Speaker 7: Other niggas they'll feel that nigga like they gonna understand that that nigga here real gangster.

00:34:30
Speaker 1: Like, no, he coming in there, he he's stepping. I don't care who it is he coming with. That ship wasn't the next outside the ring? Feet outside the ring? Uh No, I'll be messing with my my my young fighters.

00:34:47
Speaker 7: So shout out to Jay Quinn, Moses and the main chance on my little cousin. And then they're not my little blood brother, but like my little brother, but.

00:34:57
Speaker 1: They fighting in April. That's gonna be next.

00:35:01
Speaker 7: That's what I'm really gonna be focused on, helping them get ready for their fights and making sure they're well prepared.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: That night, I met Tank like he was twelve.

00:35:10
Speaker 1: He was then with Floyd Mayweather. Yeah he was a baby.

00:35:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they was like, Yo, that's gonna be the one that's gonna be the one that he man tore them up to.

00:35:20
Speaker 1: You know, he became the man. Why are you looking at me like that, Jaden, I'm just looking at you.

00:35:29
Speaker 2: This guy, he's a funny dude. Bro Let me tell you something. So that was your toughest fight. Is there any wreckage you're out to break? Is there anything that you got your eye on that you're like, yo, I gotta have that.

00:35:45
Speaker 1: That's something I need to do. They fucked up what I really could have did.

00:35:49
Speaker 7: But I was I was gonna have two belts in one way class and I wanted to be able to like go really do what I wanted. But they straight me out of my belt at one hundred and thirty five pounds really for no reason.

00:36:04
Speaker 1: But that like a money? Is that like some fake extortion shit going on with Yeah? It is? It is, right, it is.

00:36:10
Speaker 2: It's like, break that down, both of y'all break it down, because I'm confused.

00:36:15
Speaker 1: When you want a belt, pay that. I gotta learn. I'm trying to learn when you want a belt, you gotta pay to be able to keep your belt. So I hate free, but free didn't keep one more?

00:36:27
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, No, what they did to me is fucked up because when I thought Williams of payder for the one hundred and thirty five title, I paid them after the fight. After that I got I moved up for the t Femal fight at one hundred and forty pounds. They belt don't got nothing to do with that fight. But they're asking me for double or what I paid them after my last fight. For me to go up to one hundred and forty pounds and keep my belt, I gotta pay double. That shit on't mean they but they really got mad at Terrence Crawford.

00:36:58
Speaker 1: He's supposed to.

00:36:59
Speaker 7: They had a real beef with them, and then they try to take it out on me. So you don't even like speaking on that.

00:37:05
Speaker 1: It is.

00:37:07
Speaker 2: It's similar to the Hollywood walker breaking news.

00:37:10
Speaker 1: Guys.

00:37:10
Speaker 2: I hate to tell you you pay for that. Guys, you request and the star and you pay. I don't know the fence, I don't.

00:37:17
Speaker 1: Know the You don't it ain't like you wanted the Grammy. You copped it, you know. It ain't like you didn't know that. How t time a fella. They ain't teach you that.

00:37:27
Speaker 3: Then you gotta pay a house keeping and keep your ship up the ball.

00:37:34
Speaker 2: You can't come to it shine your own star for no reason. Yeah, by the way, you bought that ship. When they be like, oh, how did I ever win here?

00:37:43
Speaker 1: You gotta pay more taxes on?

00:37:46
Speaker 2: Hell no, they're gonna get mad at me because it ain't like you pull up.

00:37:50
Speaker 1: You know, you pull up and you be like, oh my god. They be acting like that's.

00:37:54
Speaker 3: Go half forward?

00:37:56
Speaker 2: Fuck that does somebody want to spawn somebody star out there? A star Unod Joe and Jada star kis someone you know were legendary. By the way, I don't know if you know. Fuck Ratt. This show right here is killing these people like they want to commit suicide. We should hand out Razor Blades's sin on to the other podcasters. They're getting their ass with. This ship is turnkey. We opened the door and now looks of course season A. Sep Firk was just on Doctor j was on the off to get it's nowhere. We it's standing room only. In fact, we have a list.

00:38:34
Speaker 1: Of people we love and we respect. Right.

00:38:37
Speaker 2: I heard other podcasts and say, yo, it's hard to get what we don't. We have a list of a one celebrities standing by like put me in the coach, put me in the game.

00:38:49
Speaker 1: And me and him got it. Yeah, he's cool.

00:38:52
Speaker 2: I only heard him say one time hell no, and that was my man too. I ain't gonna say you want to say you want let me say it. You want me to say it, you don't want me to say it. That motherfuckers like hell no. I was almost like, oh my god, what did he.

00:39:08
Speaker 3: Do to Kiss?

00:39:09
Speaker 1: It was a rapper. Yeah, and he's just like, he's not coming on. I said, whoa damns, ain't fucking with him. Let me just chill. I guess this. No, Kelly's great. We gotta give all props. He just left Key this man, he not being realistic. And listen, let me tell you something.

00:39:37
Speaker 2: I'm proud of everybody on this staff and the contributions y'all bring to the game, because if me and Kiss just did this on our own, we definitely wouldn't have had this kind of fluid it.

00:39:49
Speaker 1: No matter what.

00:39:49
Speaker 2: We could have hired a camera man, we could have died this whatever. But the way that ship coming in, like I said, Turnkey, he guts this. At first, they was trying to compete. Now they're like, yo, let him have it. This shit had control. Like these guys, we we might bring the pope on this ship.

00:40:07
Speaker 1: This ship had of control right here, like, well, you was with Obama, so you're gonna make that happen.

00:40:11
Speaker 2: First, let me tell you about the Obama. Okay, Obama. They'll know how many Spanish people I may vote for Obama before he was famous. Okay, when Obama's coming up, I'm out there in every Spanish community, both up Obama Obama one.

00:40:30
Speaker 1: I hint that this is this.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: I went beyond beyond he will ever know, trying to get the Spanish, the Latino community to vote for I know his wife, I met her ten times. I never met Obama. I wanted if you go to any rich person's house, I don't give a.

00:40:49
Speaker 1: Fuck who the real witch.

00:40:51
Speaker 2: The many you walk in, they got Ronald Reagan, they got Trump, they got Clinton, they got they got the that's the biggest flex and the ain'ty twenty million plus mansion. They got a president picture with them right there. I got a bunch of president. I got it. I got Bill Clinton with the tss on. He's in a little bit of an island scandal, but we're chilling.

00:41:17
Speaker 1: We took him off the wharf.

00:41:18
Speaker 2: For now, right Yo yo, yo, yo yo. But Obama always wanted that pick. The moral to the story is, I ain't gonna lie to you. Puerto Ricans really black, maybe Puerto Ricans all black. I'll break that down to you. That's the fact that just speak Spanish, said Paul Mooney said the best google this clip.

00:41:39
Speaker 1: Paul Mooney said, they really niggas did talks manning. That's all it is. For sure, it's it.

00:41:44
Speaker 2: And so I go up to I said when I'm when I'm checking in, they go Obama.

00:41:50
Speaker 1: And then I don't give a fuck.

00:41:53
Speaker 2: If they had five hundred seats, I was getting that pick with Obama. I don't give a I don't nothing. I just had to walk up with the fluidity the Secret Service. All the niggas moved out the way, like, hey Joe, how are you? I said, yeah, said mister President. His wife embraced me, Yo, she's our guy, fat Joada. I don't even know if Obama knew who Fat Joe was. Like that, Miss Obama was wooting in like, Yo, he's our guy. Right, thank you, Miss Obama. Y'all are sick a pig. By the time I turned around, Obama kept trying to smile for a pick. Every basketball. Seventh foot was jumping right, hey, miss the President. Hey, I mean it was their shit about ten of them.

00:42:36
Speaker 1: It turned into rich player.

00:42:38
Speaker 2: I had to like start like, yo, my man's y'alln't move the fuck out the way, like we got to get this pic.

00:42:44
Speaker 1: It was only a second before the tecret.

00:42:46
Speaker 2: Services like yo, enough's enough, like and I wasn't gonna get my fixt a seventh foot that jumped in front of me Like I was like, yo, what type of shit? Everybody wanted that joy? But I got it. I got it, you know what I'm saying. I waited twenty years for that, but I was definitely going straight and that all go see.

00:43:05
Speaker 1: Your versus body o. He looking and looking like he back in his bag a little right.

00:43:10
Speaker 7: You're telling him get in his bag so we could fight, and you want to fight him. I want to fight all these guys you name him when I fight him. So yeah, I think we can make a fight happen. I think that might be the next But.

00:43:23
Speaker 1: People would love to see that. Man.

00:43:25
Speaker 7: It's the same fucking ship that y'all already know. Take away the fucking left hook. You take away his left hook.

00:43:33
Speaker 2: He's cooked. Move this way take it away. That's the last thing I'm gonna have to fucking dude up. I said, Yo, yo, I'm talking to ship Ryan got see it and my man. Let me ask you the question. Let me ask you the question, like what's my man? And and I'm a fan a right.

00:43:54
Speaker 1: You gotta know his name.

00:43:55
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know, I don't know ship Man is your problem? You know, I'll explain him and you'll tell me who. But I know him. Devin hated right ever since he got touched, he been fighting scared.

00:44:12
Speaker 1: That is not a lie. That is not nothing he's doing.

00:44:15
Speaker 2: He's still so talented to beat these guys, but he been somebody rung his belt to where the man not the same. He's not the same after even though he won the belt, even though he won the last two three fights, even though this he's fighting scared.

00:44:32
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't. Look, what do you think about Devin Haney.

00:44:38
Speaker 7: I think that a scared man is a man that's kind of hard to beat sometimes because when they scared, they scariness can help them out in the ring. So I mean, I think he'll he a solid fighter. He's not a bad fighter, so he definitely knows what he's doing. His dad gonna make sure he comes in shape. So uh, they want to make it happen. I'm down, but I know.

00:45:02
Speaker 1: Oh ship, I didn't know we was out here.

00:45:04
Speaker 2: Broker in fights all right, hard rock best yo, hain't it but it gotta be called out, but love it.

00:45:12
Speaker 1: It gotta make sense.

00:45:13
Speaker 7: So long as the business and everything makes sense with it, we can make the fab Now.

00:45:18
Speaker 2: I don't respect your answer because I think you want to fight him for the big payday.

00:45:22
Speaker 1: Nah, it ain't.

00:45:23
Speaker 7: It ain't the payday that at the end of the day, me and him is not at the same weight class.

00:45:30
Speaker 1: So it got to I would have to go up.

00:45:33
Speaker 7: We gotta got down or really because now people kind of overrate that big fights need belts and big fights don't need belts.

00:45:41
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can meet in the middle.

00:45:43
Speaker 2: So I would love I would love to see that my little and Floyd. I respect that fight and Floyd for that one.

00:45:51
Speaker 1: Music.

00:45:51
Speaker 2: What the music motivates? You give me a little five playlist. It ain't got to be the greatest of all time. You in the locker room, you getting ready for time. God, I don't give a fuck what they say. They they big on m m A. They acted like boxing fell off, but hell no, and boxing gotta fight is musty TV, every barn, every bar, every gym.

00:46:14
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. Where are you at?

00:46:16
Speaker 2: You watching that ship as much as you try to disc boxing? What are you playing in your in your headphones on your locker room.

00:46:25
Speaker 7: I'm probably playing like some neat probably some fifty Oh jay z uh Tupac kiss heard I'll be I'll I'll be going to do different, different kind of music.

00:46:46
Speaker 1: So, yeah, last time I knocked the nigg out that I was playing Norrie. What what what? What?

00:46:50
Speaker 3: What? What?

00:46:51
Speaker 1: What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? We're driving up to the one on one? What what? What? What? Fuck? Joe?

00:46:59
Speaker 2: I told the story. I had to fight a guy. He was on America's Most Wanted, so we had to.

00:47:06
Speaker 1: He's not like, he's not like, he's not like I got a hundred. He's telling it. There's no flag.

00:47:14
Speaker 2: He's on America's Most wanted. Sad Joe out of shape. I had to fight this guy to eliminate the you know, the real you know what I'm saying. So it was like, yo, you gotta fight him. The guy was cock Dezeer, one Shape and Everything man.

00:47:30
Speaker 1: With Joe crack Man.

00:47:33
Speaker 2: I don't want to violate because he was the perfect gentleman about god he was.

00:47:37
Speaker 1: He was a perfect gentleman about it. But I pulled up.

00:47:40
Speaker 2: He thought he saw rich lately and he said, yo, man, like he ain't say my name, but you know what it takes to fight a guy on America's Most wanted and you're a famous rapper. Imagine that. I got my ass whipped. That ship would have went beyond.

00:48:00
Speaker 1: You knocked him up. I beat him up, bad, bad, and.

00:48:04
Speaker 2: It was just what my fluidity was a little bit, you know. But I thought I was gonna lose.

00:48:09
Speaker 1: How about that? But yeah, that's how it goes. I come from my brother.

00:48:14
Speaker 2: Anybody. I know, we're too old for somebody who grew up with us.

00:48:18
Speaker 1: Now I was.

00:48:19
Speaker 2: I'm never sire, ever, ever, ever, ever. One time I had an argument with a promoter in Paris and he brought in like ten African dudes. They locked the door like I'm locked up. I got up and was like, yo, let's get it popping. My DJ always tell me that story. He said, Yo, crack the dudes came up in there, with the gloves and all that, and all I remember is you got up and you was like, Yo, so what we're doing, Let's get it popping in this bitch.

00:48:47
Speaker 1: I've been fighting my whole life.

00:48:48
Speaker 2: The point is I thought he was gonna win because he's in perfect shape.

00:48:53
Speaker 1: I'm really fat, fat Joe.

00:48:55
Speaker 2: But I come from watching my brother and my brother I got a story for y'all the golden guns.

00:49:01
Speaker 1: Why can't tell story? Gotta finish this one first.

00:49:05
Speaker 2: I come from whoever gets knocked out gets knocked out, So I stay in toe to toe. You knocked me out, nothing knocked the dude. Congratulations, I knocked you out. It is what that's it? Toe the toe. I used to watch my brother fight guys. Told to toe, whoever got knocked out got knocked out. It wasn't no bullshit. I'll tell you a funny story. So nobody believes me, right, nobody believes me. I keep trying to tell them. We was the wireless kids in our age group when we had no money. So the kingpins at the time before I became Kingpins. Kingpins at the time used to come and get Fat Joey to beat up the guys that had beef with. So they'll come and be like, Yo, we got a pel a for you. We got three pair of Jordan's. We need you to put it on these guys.

00:49:55
Speaker 1: Right. So this one kingpin.

00:49:57
Speaker 2: Who is like ahead of his time, where ir mez boots all types of shit. He come get me, He say, Yo, Joe, I got a problem. I'm gonna buy you a pelle that that was a cheap hire too. It's like three pair Jordan's a pelle. Come on, And I never cared. I really never cared about human I really didn't care, right, So I'm with him. I go over and I'm gonna tell you that ave y'all. It was one eighty second in Creston and literally I know blood know no big dope. So I go over there. He started arguing with the guy. Now, sometimes don't matter how kingpin, don't matter how much, dudes you killed my man Stacey and jail still for thirty some years because they knew he was a killer. But they fronted on him in this building and there was he couldn't take it. So he went over there emptied it out on his own hood. Sometimes you don't want to do that to the guys. You grew up with and they take advantage of that. So I go over there and I'm like, this guy's such a kingpin. I'm like, yo, he could just kill this guy, Like why is he arguing with him? But he's from that block. So the guy's talking to him. The guy don't even think about me. He's not even looking my way. He's like, yo, this this that arguing with him. And I punched that guy in his chin so hard he went I fluidity on the floor over the bike.

00:51:16
Speaker 1: Boom right.

00:51:18
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm flubby fat Joe. I'm like this, he fall over the bike. I knock him out.

00:51:25
Speaker 1: Lucky. I'm gonna give it to y'all now.

00:51:27
Speaker 2: One of these seconds, Christ, I'm breaking the myth hold up, Lucky. I knock him out. So the guy go with is pushing me like Joe, let's go, Joe, let's go, Yo, Joe, let's go. He's taking me to the concourse and I'm still trying to front. He's like, let's go. He throw me in the cab. I get out of there. Little do I know that this guy was four time Golden Glove champ. The guy I knocked out and the man for twenty years, been sending me. I mean he's old now, but he was sending me messages. Tell Fat joey. He owed me the fair one. Tell fat Joe Yo, he throw his ship up. No, I snuffed him. Oh you got a mine insighted. She did whatever the fuck you want over there. They was like in his heart, Yo, the fat Joe got hit. He knocked out on one thirty seven. The man is a four times fat Joe squared up one on one.

00:52:21
Speaker 1: They was telling yo that I got a question for you. He bag every human being that knew me for twenty years, Like please, I got a question for y'all. Do y'all still be going to the studio nowadays? Like he does right there every day? Okay?

00:52:35
Speaker 7: Now, I just was asking because I know, like, once I'm done boxing, I don't know if it's gonna be like hardy ship to like stay out of the.

00:52:43
Speaker 1: Gym, like now you're gonna go. It's a lifestyle lifestyle.

00:52:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, you knownna bust around stay in the fucking studio every day for the rest of his life.

00:52:53
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it to you.

00:52:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, the studio is three thousand dollars a night ship like that you don't own your own studio.

00:53:03
Speaker 1: You got his own studio.

00:53:04
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like junk that ship they's got a fireplace and all that in it. Man, Yeah you got you. I don't have the next generation like yeah.

00:53:12
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

00:53:13
Speaker 3: I helped them actually in the work to do one of the labels.

00:53:19
Speaker 1: Want me to start, no, developing some of the young talents.

00:53:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the smartest ship you'll wear on a portfolio. About that, I think I think that would be great. You know, you get them to kick that ship. Yo, We appreciate you.

00:53:35
Speaker 1: Brother. This ain't that that? Ain't this cracking kiss?

00:53:39
Speaker 3: Make some noise for of course Stevenson baby by.

00:53:43
Speaker 2: Y'all body body at the face of boxing Jersey in the build out the north, Hey, shout out the h down too, shout out to.

00:53:52
Speaker 1: The soulful joint Pixie meals. I've been watching them. They got the turkey chops out there in Newark. They got the turkey. Why