Kid Rock, RFK Jr. and the Tony Soprano of PORN (w. Boomer Banks)

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Brief Recess. I'm Michael Foote, I'm Melissa Albranch. Today we're going to be talking about planking and how it foreshadows the collapse of society. Were to talk about presidential theater, the RFK kid rock music video, how we made all the frat boys days by giving them a dab rig cathartic trash, talk about Christy Noman, Don Junior, and Pam Bondi. We're going to have an interview with prolific adult film starring musician Boomer Banks and all of the tales from the Dams are going to answer your questions to stick around. Were you ever smoker? Okay, sorry, mom's watching. No, you never smoked.

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Speaker 2: No, in high school, like everybody out by.

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Speaker 1: The dumpster, no smoked. We would to drive around in front of us.

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Speaker 2: To steal my dad's cigarettes.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you told me that. Yeah, my dad.

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Speaker 3: Smoked marbo red hard pack and then he moved over to the soft gold pack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah it is. It's you know, it gives a little it's a nice er, it's so smoother, Okay, healthy.

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Speaker 3: What's really interesting about the smoking that I did is that I did it because everybody else was.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like you didn't even like it, not that much. Yeah. I talked about this with Karen and Kelly Martha Kelly, and when I was out in La, Yeah, and we were we talked a lot about smoking because it was like what we were doing back then. I mean, I feel like this generation is all vaping. It's not about cigarettes.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually always really surprised when I see a young person smoking a cigarette.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like oh yeah, wow, oh okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so's keeping that alive.

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Speaker 1: I think the boys from Heated Rivalry are smokers, and I see them like on my Instagram. I think so not to spread information but miss information, but I do feel like maybe at least one of them is okay.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, someone sent me like a through social media. They sent me a gift and it was like all this smoking paraphernalia marijuana though.

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Speaker 2: It was like, well that's I think that's different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah definitely. But it was like really complicated stuff and I'm not that serious about marijuana.

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Speaker 2: Not did they send you actual marijuana or did they send you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, interstate interstate commerce. Oh no, no no no. It was just like like a bong and it was like a bong, but it was like very modern looking, and then something else was like it was like a metal thing. For I think people do like a wax or some sort of resin that they smoke, and I didn't. I'm not. I'm really not that serious about it.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like we are running out of shit to do to ourselves?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: We're running out of shit to do to ourselves. We're running out of things to talk about, We're running out of different ways to like alter our appearances, things to do.

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Speaker 1: When we started planking back in like two thousand and nine, that was when we were like, can't shut it down, Like that's a wrap planking the kids, it's over. That was it. When I saw an Australian schoolgirl planking on a car on a Toyota. Yeah, no, that was when we ran out of shit to do.

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Speaker 4: Did you do it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: I talked about it.

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Speaker 2: A lot though, so you never did it?

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Speaker 1: No? I was too old. I wasn't going to plank in lawsco on I write a criminal law? No, yeah, I also planking in the courtroom, your honor excuse me.

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Speaker 2: It seemed like a really weird and uncomfortable thing to do, right, Yeah, yeah, your entire body?

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Speaker 1: What do you wait with your face when you're planking? Get in the comments if you've ever planked, and let us know where'd you put you?

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Speaker 2: Send us a picture. I need to see this.

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Speaker 3: But let's let's not reintroduce that to people. Don't plank, it's you look stupid.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into a sidebar. How's your week, bend? What's happened? And what's going on? What's the tea? What's what's what's happening?

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Speaker 3: And I decided that I was going to sort of like disengage from the news last week.

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Speaker 1: Oh how'd that go? Bright as we're entering a war with a ron? Right?

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Speaker 2: Because of that exactly? Okay, I was like, I'm tired. Yeah right, I'm tired of I'm tired of a lot of things, but I am tired of like the incessant cruelty and the violence.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know it's almost always the people who have the most to lose who lose more.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I have a therapist once say that the human brain has not evolved to a place where it can comprehend mass scale suffering at all times, because that's what we're witnessing every time we look at our phone, every time we turn on the news, we're watching other people suffer at a grand scale. Our brains really aren't equipped to handle that at all times without grace.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is is that we now have more access to the violence, so that now I'm seeing pictures right, like I don't want want to see like another beheaded child. Do you know what I'm saying, Because you can't unsee those things. Yeah, And it's the kind of thing that I will think about later, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's a good thing, right, Maybe it's good that I'm thinking about it, But, like it said.

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Speaker 1: Something about your humanity. If you're if it's bothering you, like I think that's important.

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Speaker 3: If I get to a place where I don't give a shit, that's a bigger that's.

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Speaker 1: The more concerning. I think a lot of war reporters talk about this where they do end up getting so disassociated that they can't but I also understand it bothers them anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's a way to protect yourself, right, If you're constantly seeing those things, then if you are constantly being upset about.

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Speaker 1: It, brain's protecting you from the one. I saw something today that ninety five percent of Google searches of the Epstein files have gone down since the war in Iran. Like the distraction is working. Yeah. See, I'm not going to shut up about it.

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Speaker 2: No, and we shouldn't. We shouldn't shut up about it.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the other thing that I'm tired of, I'm tired of watching the presidence of the United States be like.

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Speaker 1: I'm so existing with weird rashes on his neck and handing and.

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Speaker 2: The disgust is so overwhelming. Yes, I'm tired of how crooked he is. Yeah, I'm tired of just little sort of like how disgusting he is to look at.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of like how he's still pretending to kind of be a president, like he's giving a State of the Union address as if everything's normal, as if his approval ratings aren't twenty nine percent or I mean ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: So, but the reason he has to do that, right, because in order to sort of like that's the part of the grift, yes, right, is that I'm going to act like there's nothing going on, and on the contrary, I'm going to tell you my numbers have never been better everybody loves me.

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Speaker 2: We're doing a phenomenal job. This is incredible, really incredible, And it's the.

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Speaker 1: Speech they give you, like right before layoffs out of company.

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Speaker 2: Our numbers are nothing worried about. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Like it's just all getting.

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Speaker 1: Laid off from society.

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Speaker 2: Christineoan and like, oh what Pete what's his name? It's just too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just who's the guy who did like one pull up? He's like the head it's like the head of defense for America was I think it was Pete Seth he did like one pull up?

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Speaker 2: All right, you know what, let's.

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Speaker 1: Take a break. Let's get into your algorithm is showing because this is straight from your algorithm, I think. And it came up of mind too.

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Speaker 3: This is the other thing that I'm sick and tired of. Right, that weird ass video that RFK did with kid Rock.

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Speaker 1: That's the start of every gay porn. I'm sorry those kid Rock and our today we have on. It's on my mind, Yeah I did.

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Speaker 2: We got We've got Bloomer Banks on about that star.

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Speaker 1: On the weekend. Let's ask him about our the RFK junior. And that's honestly like a less weird intro to probably some of the gay porns that Boomer has been a part of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the thing about it is is like, Okay, let's.

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Speaker 3: Just for for the sake of whatever, right, let's assume that we think that RFK is doing a great job and we like him.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's just say that.

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Speaker 3: Sure, is there any part of watching that video that makes people feel uncomfortable?

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like I'm looking at something that I shouldn't be sitting right now? What what's going on? What's what?

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Speaker 1: Someone air dropped me this in the airport and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, this feels this field like I'm about this is something I don't want to see?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, and then and then and then it's.

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Speaker 1: What did I say, Newton's law? Lost physics. It's always the person you don't want to see in the gym locker room, in the jockstrap schlanging and banging. It's always always that good rock looking motherfucker and the RFK looking.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I watched that for like and I and I I kept on going back that I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, because I was like, I was going to actually, we're just going to circle back to the Yeah, if we could refer.

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Speaker 2: Back to the why is why am I not seeing anybody? Echo? How fucking weird it is?

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Speaker 1: It's weird, it is so weird. Week Times did like a breakdown of it. They were like, what is this so weird? Also, what is it promoting? It's like something remember.

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Speaker 2: When the reporters would even the point.

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Speaker 1: Some like reporters from the UK BBC reporters went undercover in North Korea and like filmed the weird things that would happen in North Korea. It was like that, like some of the strange footage that was like.

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Speaker 2: Lost and he got in and he got into an ice bath with his jeans on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to, like I don't want to like get into body shaming anyone.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no it's not that's not what it is that weird. Well it's and also I think I also don't know what the point was. What were you trying to show us?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Are you showing us maybe that RFK, who is in good shape, sure, versus Kid Rock who is not in good shape, and maybe we're trying to get Kid Rock to anything?

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Speaker 1: What story?

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Speaker 2: What are we trying to tell here?

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Speaker 1: Or was this like I honestly, were there any words with the video? It was just like video was there first? With your gens on? Is are they? It's like a never nude from Tobias Blues.

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Speaker 2: Then you get out of the ice bath with your jeans on. There's nothing worse than a wet pair of jeens.

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Speaker 1: Sorry. I've done a lot of drugs and alcohol in my life, and I've never gotten in a bathtub with my genes on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely, yes, yes, absolutely, Like.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this, I know.

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Speaker 2: But like the history of it's like a matter of course that people just drink a lot and do drugs. I never did. But and I'm not saying that is trophies in the math. No, no, no, no, no, I don't mean that for you.

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Speaker 1: You have all your natural teeth.

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Speaker 2: I do nice, must be nice, But but no, I don't. I'm not saying it that way. I'm saying that it's really interesting. I was so uninterested, yes, and that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it was the only thing I was interested in interesting. Yeah, I mean like there was I mean I was in a small town. There was nothing else to do, especially if you were gay as shit, Like there's nothing else going on. There's no other gay people.

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Speaker 2: H well, I'm there are a ton of gay people.

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Speaker 4: You just didn't know.

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Speaker 1: My only friend committed suicide. Oh no, And I was like fifteen, Oh that's awful. And it was like the only other gay person I knew. Yeah, we're going like weird.

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Speaker 2: Dark yeah, but little trigger warning me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah tw but yeah, so it was like, what else am I going to fucking do? Let's hit the bottle. Yeah. When I was like younger, so that's why I was like smoking and drinking and experimenting with drugs. I guess I wasn't like addicted to drugs that, which is good. Yeah, yeah, which is why I'm not triggered when people mail me all sorts of drug paraphernalia' so.

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Speaker 2: Random was nobody mails me shit, I would like something.

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Speaker 1: There were so many I could have given you some of these.

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Speaker 2: I don't want that, okay.

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Speaker 1: Well there were two bongs, and the one bong looked like a coffee cup. It was like you flipped the straw up and that was the and I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting. But I was like I don't really smoke out of a bong. So I was like there's this area in my apartment building where you leave things the ton't want anymore?

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Speaker 2: Wait is it gun?

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Speaker 1: So if I was taking it downstairs, and it was on Saturday night because I went off Friday night, so Saturday night was the night of rest. Okay, we're a Christian household, and so we get in the elevator and it's like a group of frat boys in the elevator and I was like, oh, okay, do.

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Speaker 2: You guys want this?

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Speaker 1: I was like, do you guys know what this is? And they're like, oh, yeah, we know what that is. That's like a bong. And they like took in. They're like taking out of the packaging and they're like, are you sure you don't want this? It's like really expensive. And I was like yeah, Like I'm good, thank you. I learned how to roll a joint in tenth grade. I'm like, that is how I'm smoking if I need to smoke. And they were so I hear them leaving the building and they're like yo, and then they like yelled the name of the brand. They were like, it's this brand, Oh my god, whatever, Yeah, it's puff Code. They were like, it's puff Code. Did you oh my God, that guy gave it. It was so funny. I could hear them.

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Speaker 2: I think the brand now is going to be upset with you. But you gave away their things.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I think they were like they just sent it. They were like. I don't think they were like you must no, no, not you mum must go like an ounce.

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Speaker 2: I feel like.

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Speaker 3: If somebody is sending you merch, yeah, they would like for you.

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Speaker 1: I think I think they wanted me to like post about it correct and now instead you've given it to a bunch of frat boys.

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Speaker 2: Michael is an ingrate me.

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Speaker 1: However, you know what I made those frat boys night. They're still talking about it. They're like, you did remember that bald guy in sweatpants who just like gave us the six? What guy?

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Speaker 2: You know, the old guy in his late thirties.

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Speaker 1: Jason Statham? Who was it? It was that guy?

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Speaker 5: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait my algorithm. Okay, wait, we're like talking about like dark stuff. I did have a PSA. I saw yesterday that there's there's a report that DHS and ICE are moving pregnant migrants to Texas so that they don't have to provide abortion care because in Texas it's basically illegal to get an abortion. It's almost impossible, especially if you're at a detention center, right And so there's been this like big expose that they are indeed doing this, and I thought it was an important opportunity to talk a bit about. There is this term that came up in the report called a pregnant child that people have really are hung up on. Rightfully, So, sure, a pregnant child child and they're usually survivors of sexual assault trigger warning. Yeah, I think it's really important to talk about because I saw a lot of comments to people sending it to me, asking me about child pregnancy, what that is, why that is, and sort of like do a breakdown of that. So I think it's important to highlight that rape survivors are oftentimes not afforded abortion care in Texas. That's very real. That's like a women's issue. And it's this like awful crossover episode with what's happening in immigration in America right now, because they're sort of like forcing these survivors of rape to carry out a pregnancy. That oftentimes, in my experience, when I have migrants help asking me for help as their lawyer, and they're pregnant. They're fleeing a regime where sexual violence is sort of like a part of the culture or a part of the humanitarian crisis in that country. They're coming here for a siglum relief, to get away from that humanitarian crisis to a country that's supposed to be recognized as a place where we have basic human rights and especially women's rights and women's care. So I wanted to highlight that because I think I hear this a lot of like, well, why are they here? There's just like a lot of non understanding, like why migrants are here? Why there are so many migrants in America? And I will say that it's because we are Our location is a place where people can access America, and it's one of the places where we're supposed to have these rights in this care. And they get here and oftentimes they're held in a detention center that is in worse conditions than the country they're fleeing. So this sort of like misconception around, oh, well, why don't they just go home? Or they wanted to move here because they wanted to be a rapper in a music video. Right, No, they're thirteen and they were raped and they're now pregnant and they're coming here to get away from their family or their assailant.

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Speaker 2: Or horrible conditions of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I had a client who is an adult now who I was representing, and a part of the military regime when they were growing up in their Central American country was that sexual violence against children was a part of a military strategy. So it was a way to keep people in line and a way to keep people afraid of the government, and it was documented and institutionalized in the government and military tactics. So I think what people are, like, why do they want to come here? Or a judge will ask my client, what do you want to do when you're here? What's your dream job? And it's like, no, baby, Like We're literally just trying to survive.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to survive.

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Speaker 1: Like it's not I want.

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Speaker 3: I would like the opportunity to survive, like the opportunity to live provide a certain standard of care for my family and myself. Yeah, but that is exactly the kind of.

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Speaker 2: Thing that I'm sick of, Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I mean, and I understand that I need to hear it, right, Yeah, but sometimes I just need a break and.

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Speaker 1: Take that break, honey, do you know what I mean something? Because people I so many people contact me like, hey, I'm burning out, but I watch your videos because like you give me hope and it's a little bit of insight, but I'm not anxious. It's not the doom scrolling, right, it's a little bit of a disruption from that. Take a break, go to yoga.

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Speaker 2: You also provide the information with some humor, right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you? You do. I try, no, I try, but sometimes it gets really serious.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean you. You definitely also have your serious moments.

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Speaker 3: But it's I think that that's what makes it palatable for people, right, is like, oh, this guy's obviously smart, you know what he's talking about, but he's also like funny.

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Speaker 1: I guess so uncomfortable with compliments, I'm sorry, it's not anything. It's not you, I know, but thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome.

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to like.

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Speaker 3: Compliments are hard for a lot of people. But somebody said something to me once they hit it something to me and I was like, no, whatever, and they're like, you know what, that's.

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Speaker 2: Actually really fucked up, Like take the compliment. Take because now you're.

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Speaker 3: Making me feel bad right, No, no, no, no, that that's what you're doing. But like, yeah, so when somebody gives you a compliment, just say thank you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a break so I can not be so read. Did you see the thing that Megan McCain posted where she's now some of the movies that cost less than Christy Nolans two hundred twenty million dollars ad campaign budget or Appenheimer Barbie talk on that?

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Speaker 2: Miss my father said my father.

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Speaker 1: I can't keep Megan McCain's where she's going with anything? Where do you fall on the political spectrum, Megah McCain, because now she's what is she talking about Christine Noman? How expensive the plane was? I mean sure, I mean sure, yeah, I guess that is truetives are like budget hawks. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And but also I think you know she loves to talk about her father. My father is my father. That it's actually really frustrating.

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Speaker 3: The apartment feels like we you just let that man rest in peace, Please stop conjuring him up again.

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Speaker 1: If I die, you my permission to go on the book circuit just with you know, weekend at Bernie's mean, whatever you have to do done, dancing around with me on strings.

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Speaker 2: Done. I got you.

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Speaker 1: You've got my express permission here on the show to go for it. You sell those tickets, I will.

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Speaker 2: Sell those tickets.

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Speaker 3: But I think that her father is one of sort of the last Republicans that we had been used to, that he was not like this new kind of Republican.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, he.

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Speaker 1: Would sort of like I remember, he would just surprise people with his votes when he was the Spring the swing vote were like, oh yep, exactly different.

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Speaker 3: Really, I think somebody who, whether they agreed with him or not, had a certain standard of.

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Speaker 2: Ethics that he subscribed to.

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Speaker 1: And because whether you agree with those ethics or not.

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Speaker 2: Correct right, they were there. He had them.

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Speaker 3: He had them. But like you said, though, I think that he was Republicans tended to be fiscally responsible.

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Speaker 2: This is this is not this is the actual opposite.

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Speaker 1: What were the movies, CJ. It was Oppenheimer, Oppenheimer, Barbie, Less than the Plane, Top Gun, Maverick, Dune, and The Batman Girl Bye. She will be in prison at some point.

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Speaker 2: I certainly hope, so, I certainly hope.

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Speaker 1: So ready for the trial of it's going to be.

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Speaker 3: And he's and like I said, like he's going to throw these people under the bus.

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Speaker 2: I mean he already to.

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Speaker 1: You from of the undercarriage of fifteen. Truly, that's what's going to happen, because I mean, how many scaramouchies did she last? What was that thirty seven thirty seven point two scaramouchie she lasted?

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Speaker 3: That's actually I love that scaramuchi is a measurement, measurement of time. I'm going to be about three scarmouchies late, like I'm.

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Speaker 1: Running the marathon, and how many scaramucies, So insider said. Trump was angry when Christino revealed in testimony that Trump knew about the two hundred and twenty million dollars for ad campaigns. And this was so how stupid. I'm actually insulted that she and her friends thought that we were stupid enough that we wouldn't find that her friend created an ad company nine days before they no bid contract was awarded, two said ad company, Yeah to a friend that was so easily traceable back to Christy. The fucking this frizzle on the magic school bus could have found that shit, Like, there is no way that anyone was going to sneak that in there were no shell companies, there were no Panama papers.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't But I think that this is exactly what they do, right. They really think that the American people are stupid. I love the uneducated, like they keep on and that's.

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Speaker 4: What it is.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing that I find so fucking galling is that they all think that they're the ones, They're the clever ones, They're going to be the ones who get away with it. It's like the senator.

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Speaker 3: Who thinks that he's not going to get caught propositioning somebody in a bathroom, right.

00:23:07
Speaker 1: Like Junior the day after the Iran war bought all this stock in a drone company. Like, come, you have the same last name as the president. It's yourn It's the same name.

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Speaker 2: I hate the run n. This is what I'm saying. It's like, it's like not even it's not even clever, just sipping.

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Speaker 1: On dumb bitch juice, like especially squeeze zips. And then the Epstein files are still in the news.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they are because I'm.

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Speaker 1: Keeping them there. Yeah, Pam Bondi, our friend Robert Garcia, friend of the friend of the pod, end of the pod just Subpoena, Pambondi, and will continue to fight for survivors, which we love to see at EVA. Yes, especially Subpoena and pam Bondi.

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Speaker 2: The same woman.

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Speaker 1: These are the things that keep me going, so like keep up, you're so tired. But these entered, these things that I hear about that energizement, now.

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

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Speaker 3: But this is the same woman who there were some Epstein survivors sitting in back of her and when she was being when she was testifying, and they're like, will you turn around and look at these women? And she absolutely refused. She pretended to take notes and stuff. Like I said, the cruelty and the stupidity is like overwhelming.

00:24:23
Speaker 1: Her paper is just like a doodle. It's just like a she's just writing her name. I remember the ex the s that we used to do in the nineties, like the three lines three lines, correct, everybody did that.

00:24:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that sort of thing.

00:24:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it is.

00:24:39
Speaker 2: I would love to see her in orange jumpsuit too.

00:24:41
Speaker 1: It's truly become like Hollywood East is DC. It's really become just like an entertainment movie making machine.

00:24:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so it's so ridiculous.

00:24:50
Speaker 1: I think the internet when we were all dunky on Christino last week when she got she got gone, that was some of the most beautiful mimography I've really seen in a long time.

00:25:00
Speaker 2: Not mimography.

00:25:05
Speaker 1: We got to bring back the National Endowment of the Arts to support the mimography that I saw last week on the internet, because that was just beautiful. Stuff's gets work.

00:25:13
Speaker 2: It was it was couldn't happen to a nicer person, that bitch.

00:25:17
Speaker 1: That is a cautionary tale tell about fillers, Christine home. That's the other thing I want to say, be careful, put down the pump because christineam how old does she She's got to be No, no, early forties, thirties is my age?

00:25:32
Speaker 2: Yeah she's fifty four?

00:25:34
Speaker 4: Wow?

00:25:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah. Maybe it's not a cautionary talent pillars.

00:25:38
Speaker 2: No, it is. It is could look again, and it's forget how we feel about her. But it's sort of again.

00:25:46
Speaker 3: It's like this idea of when you do a medical intervention on your face. You don't know how your face is going to what you don't know, you don't know how your face is going to react, like like.

00:25:57
Speaker 1: A medical intervention, Like it's a stint.

00:25:59
Speaker 2: Well, what I mean, like people are doing. That's what they're doing, right, like these sort of like cosmetic interventions, right when.

00:26:05
Speaker 1: You like interrupt what the Lord was working with and then with doctoring.

00:26:10
Speaker 3: And listen, I completely understand the desire. Like you look at your face and you're.

00:26:15
Speaker 2: Just like, I wonder if I just yeah, yeah, a little.

00:26:19
Speaker 3: But the problem is that you don't know how your face is going to react, And isn't it better?

00:26:25
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm still thinking about it. Isn't it better to just sort of age and look like yourself than to sort of eight And now her face is like a roadmap. It's like all like no, but but it's not. I'm not even trying to be mean, like I'm just saying it's it's like Caroline what's her name with her lip filler. The injection is that wouldn't you be better to have it was like slighterless.

00:26:53
Speaker 1: It was like the cracker barrel to connect the dots on the kid's menu. Yeah, remember that very bad. That's why it only change your hair. I'm coming in with an eighteen and chum in her bundle next week to the pod, okay, and I'm going to be transformed. I'm going to be a different person, are you really?

00:27:11
Speaker 2: Although I do.

00:27:12
Speaker 1: We talked about if I went to Turkey. I'm just got like a full head a hair. I don't even know came back to ginger.

00:27:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know.

00:27:19
Speaker 3: If I'd be able to look at you right in the eye anymore, you would look so different.

00:27:24
Speaker 1: You don't know this about Melissa. She does that with anyone with hair. She won't look them in the eye.

00:27:30
Speaker 2: That's actually like my problem.

00:27:31
Speaker 3: When somebody in front of me like does something to their face, and I'm always.

00:27:35
Speaker 2: Like like, I'm like, do I look? Do I not look? My dad?

00:27:41
Speaker 4: You?

00:27:41
Speaker 1: And I yeah, my dad the.

00:27:43
Speaker 2: Biggest yenta in the world. I would see somebody and say something but like but like look at me and be like missa, look look look look like good was good, And I'm.

00:27:57
Speaker 1: Like, shut up. Yeah klicklicklick click clicklickicklick.

00:28:04
Speaker 2: But that's what happens when somebody's got something distracting on them.

00:28:07
Speaker 1: You can't keep it you you can read your poker face.

00:28:12
Speaker 2: Not for that. I don't because I'm just like and then I do this thing where I feel like, Okay, so I'm going to look at them for a beat of two and then I'm gonna look.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: The rhythm method because not counting, Oh my god, not the rhythm method, Melissa.

00:28:29
Speaker 2: And we all know the rhythm doesn't work.

00:28:31
Speaker 1: It doesn't work because people are like, why is the most accounting to herself, like I just got my.

00:28:39
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I have to like try and balance to like the normal eye contact with the not speaking of mimography.

00:28:46
Speaker 1: I saw Chris Chris Jenner's facelift and seeing this, someone put a meme out there that said they stepped on her back and yanked when they told her that they did her facelift, because she really does and someone to decider to side. It was like fifty five and fifty six, and she looks incredible.

00:29:04
Speaker 2: She looks so good.

00:29:07
Speaker 1: Kathy Griffin talked about how that doctor, she wouldn't say the name, but it's a million million dollars now for that facelift. Because she looks so good, everyone is going to her.

00:29:17
Speaker 2: But here's the problem. Chris Jenner looks good. Who's to say that I'm going to look good if I had this? This what I'm saying, you don't know what your face is going What your personal face is going to do it right.

00:29:31
Speaker 1: Did you ever do a divine corpse in art class? No, it is okay. You fold a piece of paper up and each person draws a little part, and then.

00:29:37
Speaker 2: You where did you go to school?

00:29:39
Speaker 1: I went to I went to unaccredited boat. That sank. I've never heard of it. Never heard of this? Yes, okay, we don't need to go into my education. Wait, what is it called a divine corpse? You basically fold up a piece of paper and pass it around the room.

00:29:54
Speaker 2: Divine corpse is coming up as a Christian exquisite corpse? You said, a vine corp.

00:30:00
Speaker 1: Okay, very similar synonym for sure. But like, I'll stop the thesaurus.

00:30:04
Speaker 2: But when I googled the vine corps, some mouse came up. So wait, what is it.

00:30:11
Speaker 1: Called exquisite cork? Inquisite corps? Yeah? What were we talking about? Oh we were talking about plastic surgery. Oh yeah, the surge. There was something plastic surge around my feet as well. The ear hair removal with wack Turkish. The Turkish ear hair is yeah, that's so satisfying to me. It is because it looks like it really fucking hurts. I'm sure that you guys are always.

00:30:36
Speaker 2: Like, well, anytime you put hot wax on your skin and you yank the hair out.

00:30:43
Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt.

00:30:44
Speaker 3: Right, that's gonna hurt. I get waxed every four weeks. I've been doing it forever. It's still fucking hurts. You want your eyebrows, No, I thread my eyebrows. Is that that's very painful. It's very painful, and it's different from plucking.

00:30:55
Speaker 1: How I don't know we're going to raise that and my back? Was there sexual chemistry energy from that r f K video that you saw. Were you feeling like I was?

00:31:08
Speaker 2: I was so overwhelmed with disgust, so there was no. Yeah, it's just you feel like something really growth, like I've never felt.

00:31:19
Speaker 1: Dryer in my life. It really brought you back to your sex side. Class from the nun's teaching you.

00:31:27
Speaker 2: My sister terrase sister.

00:31:31
Speaker 1: I hate that.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: I know remember that so clearly.

00:31:34
Speaker 1: I would remember if I were taught from non, I would remember.

00:31:38
Speaker 2: Typing teachers was sister Nancy and we hated her.

00:31:40
Speaker 1: And Nancy Nancy did.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: I say funny, Sister Nancy.

00:31:50
Speaker 5: We used to car sister shift bitch, because when you're typing, shift so when you yeah, she was a horrible.

00:32:02
Speaker 1: You know how to type, right though? You know what type in our guests name on your work computer.

00:32:07
Speaker 2: And see what comes up. I won't.

00:32:09
Speaker 1: Our guest today is a prolific gay porn star Boomer Banks. I'm so excited, really fun. I met him at a party a couple of weeks ago. We had a party at Verse and it was really fun and he came and he's a DJ. Now all right, okay, so shift bitch, welcome back to brief Recess. I'm Michael Foot. Today we have the extraordinary prolific household name, famous Catholic pastor Boomer Banks, also known.

00:32:46
Speaker 4: Aren't we All?

00:32:46
Speaker 1: Also known as an extraordinary adult performer, entrepreneur, entertainer, DJ. Anything else, comma anything else?

00:32:54
Speaker 4: You I'm to add I could do a somersault.

00:32:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we love that and some of the adult videos. That's a good opener. Yeah, just I mean.

00:33:05
Speaker 4: I'm just I think that would hurt.

00:33:08
Speaker 1: That's what would That's what would hurt. That's what that's what would hurt. And that's all you need to know.

00:33:14
Speaker 4: That's all you need to know.

00:33:15
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us. I thought would be fun to have you on. I want to talk about the adult entertainment industry, your experiences in it, your life is just fascinating and it's.

00:33:24
Speaker 4: It's a complete different like from what you guys usually have on here. No, we have everyone well everyone, yes, but yes, yes.

00:33:31
Speaker 1: This is our first time really diving into this. But I think it's so interesting because I think the adult entertainment industry is opaque. A lot of people don't know what happens behind the scenes. They don't know that these are paid performers, these are contracts, are studios. Watch it.

00:33:48
Speaker 2: Everybody watches, no matter what they say.

00:33:52
Speaker 4: And also they seem to think that we are healthcare professionals. Really they ask the most craziest questions. If someone becomes HIV positive, they expect me to know something, which I do and which is crazy. So to further that, I did become well educated sure with my sexual health because people would come and I didn't want people of color not to have I won't ever give anybody I am not a healthcare professional. I will let them know, hey, this is what I know, but you should ask your and a lot of times in rural like Ohio, there is no queer doctor for them to go to so you know, I give them some sort of guidance and that's all I could do. But it's very interesting how much they think we know they want to tell us things.

00:34:46
Speaker 1: That's interesting because like that is not at all what I would think, like if I were.

00:34:51
Speaker 4: Of us grew up very okay with our sexuality, and well, I don't know about a lot of us, but there's a lot of people that are okay with sexuality and they don't need to center themselves in that sexual arena and be like, oh they know yes, yeah.

00:35:10
Speaker 3: Do you think it's because people have watched you that they feel like they know you and therefore feel comfortable sharing something with you?

00:35:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody thinks they know me, Sure they do.

00:35:22
Speaker 3: I mean I think I think that people often think that they know famous people like because so if you see a news anchor, that person comes into your house every day, your favorite your favorite television stars, so if they're watching your movies, then they will feel like they know you.

00:35:41
Speaker 4: And I have an interesting relationship with that word famous and celebrity. I always talk to my therapists about it, and it does even talk about right now, it makes me uncomfortable. I get that at this like ginormous level, like I am known, and it's I mean a lot of times it's very clear. One of the funniest things you I'll be at airport and there'll be a man like pushing a baby car with his wife and he gets flush and you're like, oh.

00:36:10
Speaker 1: That man, watch why you so read sir, sir.

00:36:16
Speaker 4: And and I'll smile and they'll just like not know, but yes it is. It is very interesting. But it's also interesting in the way that like a lot of people like do know, but they don't want to admit that they know, right.

00:36:32
Speaker 1: They'll pretend like they don't know you or they've never seen your.

00:36:34
Speaker 4: Well that's more of a of a of a gay thing for these gays and be like, oh, what's your name?

00:36:41
Speaker 1: That's not because you're in They do that to me too, and then and then they I'll be like, oh, already following me there in your DM already damn messages.

00:36:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, with gay people saying pictures, yeah, you could see their religion.

00:36:59
Speaker 1: Our dams are probab a little different. But sometimes people will be speaking.

00:37:06
Speaker 4: Of d ms really quickly. So I shared the other day that I was like, I was like seasonal depression is real.

00:37:13
Speaker 1: And it was it that it wasn't lind Gram, Oh my god, please.

00:37:19
Speaker 4: No and so and then but then I posted a picture of me and my dog and I was like, oh, this is my care for seasonal depression. And I just kept getting all these like gaping whole.

00:37:29
Speaker 6: Pictures and I'm like, oh, didn't carry your seasonal depression.

00:37:35
Speaker 4: But it's like I just was being vulnerable. But I was like this is what I and I posted. I was like, I guess this is what I signed night for dot dot dot, you know, but I literally just posted some guys like do you want to see the video of me? I just put a piece of soap up my butt, And I was like, what are we doing?

00:37:59
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:38:00
Speaker 4: Of course I hope it was an Irish spring. I would think that would like burn, it would.

00:38:04
Speaker 2: Burn, it would happen Irish bring instant.

00:38:08
Speaker 4: Oh my god, soap scum from Irish string.

00:38:11
Speaker 1: I just remember in college when I would hook up with the frack Eye, the whole bathroom would smell like that Irish sprain axe bodies right.

00:38:18
Speaker 2: Well, also Irish spring layered with X.

00:38:22
Speaker 4: Bodies, right Yeah, It's like it's like a you can still smell their musk because they don't really clean themselves properly.

00:38:31
Speaker 1: It's always those used up boxer shorts that are crunchy, crunchy, crunchy.

00:38:39
Speaker 4: You're like, what is this not moving?

00:38:42
Speaker 1: Like fabric?

00:38:43
Speaker 4: Do?

00:38:43
Speaker 2: People?

00:38:44
Speaker 3: So going back to your DMS and stuff, right, So what do you think is the desired result?

00:38:50
Speaker 2: Are they hoping that you will access to you? Right?

00:38:53
Speaker 4: Access?

00:38:54
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah?

00:38:55
Speaker 2: And it is.

00:38:57
Speaker 4: It is my fault. I allow a lot of it because I'm very open about my sexual health, about my sobriety, so many things that I do about how I advocate for trans and queer because I identify as queer because to me, what I realized, what actually porn helped me realize, is that I don't really identified with the world we're gay because gay to me is gay white males, right, and it's become this whole thing like on on Twitter there's l g B or they don't they don't put the T.

00:39:38
Speaker 1: Or anything else they know.

00:39:42
Speaker 4: And I have done scenes with trans men and they will they're like, you're straight, You're doing straight porn with women, and I'm like, that is a man.

00:39:52
Speaker 1: Also, it's no near fucking business to tell me what I am.

00:39:55
Speaker 2: Right, yes.

00:39:55
Speaker 4: I mean today someone puts it on the scene that I did with the transman and they're like, girl, and I'm like, what are you doing?

00:40:03
Speaker 1: People in comments are wicked and wild. I can't.

00:40:05
Speaker 4: Oh, that's not even I mean, that's I feel bad for my trans brothers and sisters. Yeah, and I just block now. I don't even engage no more. But I mean, I you know, I'm very open about my shabby status as well, and people will tell me to die of AIDS. Sure, they just flat out dibates, and it's almost like because I don't respond to them the way they want me to, Sean.

00:40:27
Speaker 1: And now with like the Internet, it's almost like if you want to engage with an audience, or you want to be an accessible public figure, who do you want people to be able to come and ask you a question? Or you want to be supportive of your trans siblings in the queer community, it's almost like the cost of doing business nowadays that you have to be willing to see that.

00:40:46
Speaker 2: People are so emboldened too, like, well they feel safe, don't they write there behind and they feel like they could see.

00:40:53
Speaker 4: And there's someone in the White House that is allowing them, you know, what I mean, it's a yeah. So now people are showing them are asses people in my in my well. And so to further, I left the proper adult industry three years ago. I didn't make a big announcement. I think it's weird when people are like, I'm quitting porn. Cool, great, good for you. When were you doing it?

00:41:23
Speaker 1: Sorry, we didn't know you started.

00:41:27
Speaker 2: Before you.

00:41:27
Speaker 4: It was a good over a decade, like a solid decade. And they just last not this January, but the January before that. They gave me Hall of Fame award and I'm only the second person of color to ever win that award. And there's so many beautiful people of color.

00:41:45
Speaker 2: And is there a lot of racism in the porn industry?

00:41:51
Speaker 4: So raisin ism to me, I equate hate. Yes, there's a lot of prejudice. Okay, there's a lot of instilled, uh, you know, prejudice. They think that because this is making money and it's just a bunch of Caucasians. Like when I started at the studio that I started at, they asked me to be exclusive. Right after my first scene. They're like the president call and I thought it was because I'm an next attic and every time someone calls that's higher than me, I think I'm in trouble. And I was like, oh my god, what did I do already? And they offered me exclusive contract to be exclusive for this company. It's one of the biggest gay porn companies. And I was like what and they're they're basically calling me a really good whore, like they're like, you're really good at graduation. We should give you more money.

00:42:40
Speaker 1: And is that and it's and it's unusual to get it's very unusual.

00:42:43
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I I it was my first scene and I did it on my thirty third. It was I was thirty three years old that day that I did that first scene. My Jesus year. Why my Jesus year I did porn?

00:42:55
Speaker 1: What was that? What was that? Why were they seeking you out like that?

00:43:00
Speaker 4: So I just I've always been very comfortable with my sexuality, and it helped that I was doing a scene with someone from New York that I had known before. Maybe I don't know. I just like even the director who I call my porn mom, Steve Cruz, he was just like, you're really good at this. And I was like, how are you good at this? But it's not what you guys think. It's not like OnlyFans now has revolutionized everything, like you could just like film and that's more genuine, right, I guess, than what was present, because like, literally they have a checklist.

00:43:39
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, there's a checklist.

00:43:41
Speaker 4: They're like, we're going to do oral, but then we're going to jump and do this, and then we're going to go back to this. It's not in chronological order all the time. So it's not like we're just going to film you guys have you know. So I was not ready for that, but I was, I guess, because they asked me to be exclusive and I was like, hold on, we just went on one date, like, but there was no one like me on their network and there wasn't. It was just it was just Caucasian men. And even though they asked me to be exclusive for Raging Salent, which was the more like alternative brand that they had at Falcon, I was still browner than everyone else. And the first year I came in and I had told them because there was so I also tell this story that I think actual porn stars like ceased to exist with supermodels once there was complete success like Twitter and and and and you know Ted from Ohio can show his whole and put I'm a porn star because on Twitter he's showing off.

00:44:46
Speaker 2: That's great, Ted, you could have that word.

00:44:48
Speaker 4: I am not that. Porn stars to me were like unaccessible, Like you know, I watched VHS porn, so there was a big box porn. You don't know what HS is, funk off seriously, and uh so those guys were porn.

00:45:06
Speaker 1: I was.

00:45:07
Speaker 4: It was god. I can't even think of names right now, but one of them, it was very queer and very open. His name was Francois Got and he's this French guy and he has this tattoo full head tat like blacked in and it's like a like a hairline thing, and he's still beautiful to this day. Very popular. He did fashion.

00:45:32
Speaker 1: He was queer, like he was queer. He wasn't gay.

00:45:36
Speaker 4: He was very he Sometimes you'd see me out idolize and that. And I knew that I embraced my femininity. I knew that I was versatile a lot of things. But you know, when I started, I was very pigeonholed into one thing. I was just the top. I was just this and and I get why. I was like anatomy.

00:46:00
Speaker 1: Oh okayt of me.

00:46:04
Speaker 4: I was larger than probably anybody, not anybody, but a lot of people. And what they didn't bargain for was this a personality, a person like they didn't And when I told them, like, I know that you guys had Francois as exclusive before, if you guys do what you did for him for me, and they're like, oh well, friend, so I did a lot. I was like, you do you, I will do me. And literally Paper Magazine, the New Yorker, Time Out Magazine, t the New York Times, they all wrote about this porn guy that knew how to could tour a gown. Because I moved to New York for fashion and I was in nightlife and like a lot of things, there was a lot of things happening. And so my first year I came to Guns of Blazing and I went Performer of the Year my first year and it was like it was like, you know the girl that wins Best Actress her first year and then you don't see her now, Yes, it's not that you didn't see me after that. It was just like, oh, he already won, like and then like they just kept hiring more white ice right, and I got and I started speaking up and they didn't like that, and I became the loud, aggressive person of color. Sure, and for a while I was okay with that.

00:47:20
Speaker 1: Where was your sobriety during this whole journey? Like why was.

00:47:23
Speaker 4: Already nine years clean and sober of everything?

00:47:28
Speaker 1: Okay when you started?

00:47:29
Speaker 4: When I started? So I made this decision as like I literally called my sponsor and I was like, hey, so, and he's like, I'm surprised you haven't already done this and I was like, excuse me, and he literally it was a straight man at the time. Yeah, I have a gay sponsor now, but he was a straight man and he's like, all the guys think you're sexy, and straight people in recovery are so okay with their like saying stuff like that about the other dudes. And I was like, who, what.

00:47:57
Speaker 2: Did you This is really interesting to hear, did you do you have a hard time accepting that is true that somebody else could look at you and say yes. Because today Michael and I were talking and I gave him a compliment and he got squirmy.

00:48:10
Speaker 4: I gave him a compliment a thing that we met, and he gets squirmedy, he gets squirmed me around compliments.

00:48:16
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I think I think a lot of people do. Yeah, so did you were you like? What is he talking about?

00:48:24
Speaker 1: Wow?

00:48:25
Speaker 4: Well, the reason I had a problem with the word sexy because I equated it to being feminine. So that was my interesting issue with the words okay, But at that point I was seeking out like the queerness that I didn't know I wanted and the femininity. And it's like this for me, Okay, I people see me and I guess I'm masculine presenting, but I'm very okay in my skin of who I am. I didn't if you would have seen me as a kid, I was like I was. I don't know if I said I was, I was. I was such a and i've it wasn't so much that I was. I cared because I wanted my family to love me and I wanted my friends to love me. But I actually, looking back, I don't think I cared because I was so feminine like. And I grew up with a single mother who was when she was sober, because she she actually passed away of alcoholism when I was fourteen, and but she she was this like when she was sober, she was clamorous. I remember she used to wear this uh two top black shimmery jumpsuit with red pumps in a red light when she had jet black hair, and I was like, that's my mom.

00:49:49
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

00:49:49
Speaker 4: But also she was my mom. She wasn't present ever right, ever, ever, ever, ever ever ever ever.

00:49:57
Speaker 2: Can I ask you after your mom passed away? Who did you grow up with?

00:50:02
Speaker 4: My mom had a brother who was probably the only family member that loved my mother, like she was the youngest sister. But they all thought that all she needed to do was go to she was they were Catholic, All she needed to do was go to church, and then she was and she'd be okay, she'd be okay, but we would go to church and she would be drinking vodka out of her purse. So I growing up seeing that, I was like, you guys are crazy, Like she goes to church and drinks Like it's not working, guys, So how am I going to get my mom back? Or how am I going to get a mom?

00:50:38
Speaker 1: Period?

00:50:40
Speaker 4: So it's it's interesting. So yeah, like I was already sober and I had made this decision, and I have these people tell me you're sexy. But also when I would go on dates before and people would take off my pants and they'd be like, whoa, what's that? And I'd be like, what are you talking about? I am I've never been the person that walks in dick first. You know, there's people in our you know, gay world that you already know they have a big day because they've told everybody they have bigger even before they walked inside the room. Yeah, And I just was never like that. So now because of porn, people know, but before that, it just wasn't. And even now people are always like, you don't seem to be that kind of.

00:51:26
Speaker 1: Like I was gonna ask you, like, what's it like dating? Like I know your partner now, but when were you single? When you're like, what was it?

00:51:33
Speaker 4: I never was the dater. I was always okay being by myself. I think once I got sober, and because I've had such like relapse is not a part of my story, and it is a part of a lot of people's story. I don't know why. When I stopped, it was like if I go back out, I'm going to die. And survival to me has always been such like the found of who I am constantly waking up thinking like how am I going to make it through today? Right? Has always been a thing, even as I mean, I remember being five having to cook my own breakfast because my mother was nowhere to be found, my mother disappearing for like a month at a time. Sometimes like people are like, oh, who's going to pay the rent? And I'm like and seven seven, yeah, like what do you want me to do?

00:52:23
Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting because I oftentimes hear from people who then have incredible business success. Right, Like if I think if like the splashy, sexy side of your industry, if we extract that and just talk about your success as a business person is really impressive, really like truly, like you have your own company now. You retired from the industry on a high note, which and.

00:52:46
Speaker 4: I started that because I still was good. That's why I never said like, I'm not I'm retiring for born, because I knew that I still was going to dabble. Yeah, And even in my acceptance speech for the Hall of Fame Award, I was like, you haven't seen the lasted me? Yeah. And then Foreskinmafia dot Com came out and it's been less than a year. It's almost going to be here actually in May. And it's it's you know, it's a new company, so but it's it's technically just like my personal only fans, so that I don't have to go through only fans so, and it's it's building. It's building, and people love it. People who subscribe don't have issues. And it's not just guys, it's my I didn't want to call it boomerbanks dot com because I wanted to use that for my music because DJing has been taking a front seat of everything. And I know we're talking about porn and it's always going to be interesting to talk about and I I, I don't mind talking about it. But music is definitely the love of my life right now and along with my dog and my partner. Yeah, but music is so important to me and I didn't realize how important it was. And it took losing a friend to addiction to realize how important music was and how it was very it soothed any sort of it helped depression.

00:54:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you decide that music was going to take the front seat at what point? Because you tell us.

00:54:23
Speaker 4: Three years ago my best friend accidentally overdosed it was a Fentanel overdose and we used to share music every Friday. And a very legendary DJ named Nita Abbiance who lives in New York. They have a DJ collective called the Carrie Nation and they're huge and the scene here in New York and I've been really close with them. But the first time I go go dance, they were DJ, so I was just talking to them. They're like, you love music, Like why don't you come to the studio sit behind me? You stand behind me at the booth all the time. If you haven't learned something by now, like what.

00:55:05
Speaker 1: Were you doing?

00:55:07
Speaker 4: And and I have and it's ever growing, like I I you can't fake like you can learn all the knobs and everything and the technical part of everything, but you can't fake taste when it comes to music. Especially the queers here in New York City. We're just people in general with music, like if you're not creating a vibe, they don't care.

00:55:32
Speaker 1: The music is a huge. There's so many everyone every queen and Bushwick is trying to do their own DJ party. First Monday Full Moon there's we went to. I went to one this weekend. I went to come on everybody, okay. There was happening there the very party, very party, okay. And I was like, I don't like this. And we went next door. We went five minutes down the road to a different want, a different pots and pants circum. I don't want this. It's a competitive market in New York.

00:56:10
Speaker 2: It is.

00:56:10
Speaker 4: It's very competitive because there are really good DJs, like you've broken through.

00:56:15
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen some of your shows, and I've seen that I still have a lot.

00:56:19
Speaker 4: To learn, and and and I knew that it was going to be a heart cell because I also people they love to love me when they're talking about porn or whatever. But it's like that whole thing like you're not I'm not You're not going to introduce you your mom to a porn star like some people have. And they moms love me, but you're.

00:56:42
Speaker 3: Also not doing porn when you meet the mom, right, Like that's like but and and a lot of.

00:56:47
Speaker 4: The moms like they're they they're so intrigued that like there's this multi dimensional human and they're like, oh wow, that takes off his clothes, but he also can hold the conversation eloquent. Yes, and he's brown, yeah, and yeah, all those things can exist at the same time.

00:57:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think of like the parallels between like the music industry and the porn industry are very real, Like, right, we're talking about like creator based content creation, right.

00:57:13
Speaker 4: And and also there's so much and the ones that have, like the porn people that have tried to do music have failed. And so when I started, they're like, oh porn another Oh okay, yeah, and I was like, oh yeah, I'm going to get that. But my mentor net abviance is like, your name is going to get you in the door. Sure, your music is going.

00:57:40
Speaker 1: To keep you there, right, and it's everything else right, Like, and it's a business mind, right, Like this is an industry that you're a part of the music industry. So being able to apply that sort of business mind, that entrepreneur spirit, I think that's really interesting. And that's like such a cool story to sort of follow, right, because.

00:57:56
Speaker 4: He took and so when you said bring props, I did, and I forgot I left it in the in the backpack. But so what I keep forgetting is that I have done these pretty major things. So there's this I'm sure you guys are familiar and I'm sure some of the guys here familiar with flesh Light. Hm. It's a toy that you insert yourself into and it's it's mainly women, and there's a lot of beautiful women. I've met a lot of them, and a lot of them are amazing, and I'm really good friends with a lot of them. And then they created a men's side and it's called flesh Jack and uh, it's apparently was a very prestigious thing to have a toy collection with them. Michael I was like, I'm mister a potato head. I have, yeah, my butt, I have my penis, and I also have my lips.

00:58:50
Speaker 6: Oh wow, Yeah, that's really big shot.

00:58:54
Speaker 4: Shot is my mouth.

00:58:55
Speaker 1: It's a triple threat Broadway right now.

00:58:59
Speaker 4: So when people tell me to fuck myself, I can't. Yeah you can, I literally can you can really follow through it. I can follow you tell me to go fuck myself all the time. I mean not.

00:59:10
Speaker 1: Part of my career hasn't taken off yet.

00:59:15
Speaker 4: I mean there's still time.

00:59:16
Speaker 1: And I told you bring anything you want to tell you, bring anything you want to promote.

00:59:21
Speaker 4: So but I make money off of that and I've been so this season on Depression, it was a three year anniversary, it's birthday. Recently, at the beginning of February, a lot happens. I'm about to move in with my partner like so much, and it doesn't make me feel sexy. And a lot of people don't talk about that, right, these these content creators don't come on podcasts and talk about how sometimes they don't feel sexy.

00:59:50
Speaker 1: What do you do when you don't feel sexy?

00:59:52
Speaker 4: You forgive me? I literally have not posted anything on my Twitter.

00:59:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're just not feeling.

00:59:58
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, and every single every week, I'm like, it's Monday, I'm going to be sexy this name, and then Monday hits and You're like, I have the wake up day, I have to go here, I have a podocast to do today.

01:00:10
Speaker 1: It's the same for people.

01:00:12
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, it's you know, I think I'll say this as a woman who's you know, a woman of a certain age.

01:00:19
Speaker 2: There is something about that.

01:00:20
Speaker 3: And I've been talking about this a lot, like I've been looking at my face and recognizing that I'm getting older and not feeling the way that I think I should feel.

01:00:31
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? Skin though, thank you, but you know what I mean.

01:00:34
Speaker 4: I know what you're saying.

01:00:35
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

01:00:36
Speaker 4: People tell me yesterday they're like, your skin is skinny, and I was like, fearce, it looks really good.

01:00:42
Speaker 2: I mean so like, it's not it's it's it's for me. It's honestly, it's the aging. Do you know what I'm saying?

01:00:49
Speaker 4: And yesterday I not to keep bringing to town, but yesterday I went to a wake of a friend who just passed away. And he was only in his early fifties. Wow, and you start singing your more time think You're like, I'm only like less than ten years away from.

01:01:04
Speaker 1: This, Like can I die?

01:01:08
Speaker 4: Obviously?

01:01:08
Speaker 1: Yeah?

01:01:09
Speaker 4: But I have so much more, Like my life didn't start until I moved to New York City. I'm so in love with the city, like I have never been more happy in my life. I was born in Mexico, so and I was brought here when I was a.

01:01:30
Speaker 1: Year old, and.

01:01:33
Speaker 4: Right off the bat in Mexican and you know, more than anybody in Southern California, the races are all divided and they all are prejudiced against each other. The Mexicans hate the Asians, Asians hate the people you know black people, Black people hate Mexicans. Like growing up, it was just this vicious circle and it's society that puts us against each other.

01:01:58
Speaker 1: Yes, you know because the down so white people can ascend.

01:02:01
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's how colonialism works. Yeah, right, that's how divide and conquer, right, and so it oftentimes.

01:02:09
Speaker 4: But I wanted, like I literally would like I wanted to be everything else other than who I was. I think that had a lot to do with also me be an addict. But like I would, I think one year I was half black, one year I was all Puerto Rican, like I was never just Mexican because everybody hated Mexicans in southern California. Yeah, you know what I mean, And.

01:02:30
Speaker 1: That self clothing runs deep.

01:02:32
Speaker 2: Sometimes self loathing is a clothing.

01:02:34
Speaker 4: And it took me into my like doing porn, being in therapy to realize because I remember having a conversation with my therapist about what I thought the standard of beauty was, and I'm describing somebody that looks like him. Sure, what the fuck? Yeah, but that's but you know what the when the world is literally I have half a million followers because of the way that I look.

01:02:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, but that is the standard.

01:03:01
Speaker 3: Of beauty was not created for us, right, the standard of beauty. I mean you know, I was a little girl growing up and the standard of beauty was fair faucet, and I can do whatever I want, but I will never look like her, do you know what I'm saying?

01:03:18
Speaker 2: So like you grow up.

01:03:20
Speaker 4: I've been watching uh, how to Get Away with Murders it's called and they're constantly blowing out their hair.

01:03:27
Speaker 2: Oh, don't get me started.

01:03:29
Speaker 4: The hair, the hair, the And then I just saw the episode where it was Scandal and it was Olivia Pope and Forget and they both have their hair like just blown out, and I was like, you guys have beautiful it.

01:03:44
Speaker 3: Is, but that is and especially if you're thinking about you know, Olivia Pope and whoever, Viola Davis played that they were women in business, right, they were lawyers, and they were in front of people. And so in order to make yourself more I would say palatable, right, you have to do everything that you can do to assimilate as much of.

01:04:04
Speaker 4: Similarly, and when you do, then you're called the things. And it's just like and.

01:04:09
Speaker 2: The other thing about it is like I said, I can do whatever I want to assimilate at the end of the day, this is a black woman.

01:04:16
Speaker 4: Well, and people would be like, because these companies would put me to work with other white men, They're like, oh, he only works with white men, and I'm like, well, I am the person of color, right right, I am in this scene as well? Yeah yeah, yeah, Like are we forgetting that I am in this scene?

01:04:32
Speaker 2: I wonder like, when you were still performing, do you and I still do but not for the companies? Okay, yeah, but do you feel like you were like something to check off?

01:04:43
Speaker 1: Right? We need like so I made sure.

01:04:45
Speaker 4: Okay, that was the one thing that I was like, I am not going to be your gardener. I am not going to be this or that. I'm going to be on the cover of those DVDs at the time you don't know where the DVD is off and and I was. I was on many covers. They made movies surrounding me that weren't like just like like I mean like the Gang Member all that, you know what I mean. It's just it was always me, like even when they did they did a movie called foresk and Mafia for me, and I wore like, uh, I'm just Owens and like I was able to dress up like the way I wanted to dress up.

01:05:29
Speaker 1: I heard for and Mafia, and I just think the Sopranos, and I like James Gandelfini.

01:05:37
Speaker 4: I am the James Gandelfini of Corn.

01:05:40
Speaker 1: You just gave us our episode title.

01:05:46
Speaker 4: Up to the studio, I was listening to Jennifer Lawrence do the podcast with Amy Poehler. Yeah, and I turned to my partner. I was like, I think I'm the Jennifer Lauren is a horn because like I'm so open and you just say everything everything, like people ask about whatever, and I'm like, yeah, this is what's happening. And she's very that they're like. And then people are always surprised that she's just like herself, like and she'll and she does go like down the street to go get coffee for herself. I mean, I'm not as big as for Lawrence, but like you know, I do things from People are always like, oh, I can't believe you're here, Like.

01:06:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, where am I supposed to be? What other fan interactions can you tell us about.

01:06:31
Speaker 4: Fan interactions that stand out? I mean just that the funniest ones are like the yeah, that's the that's that's the funniest to me. But I mean, yeah, and and and now people feel like, oh, I love your work, and I'm like, oh, you listen to my music, And then they're like, oh you did music.

01:06:58
Speaker 6: Where can people listen to me? Just like iund cloud? Yeah yeah, Boomer Banks on SoundCloud. Yeah yeah, So the music is always going to be Boomer Banks.

01:07:06
Speaker 4: I worked really hard for that name. Sure, yeah, I worked really hard for that.

01:07:09
Speaker 1: Name in long career before your music, right, And.

01:07:13
Speaker 4: But it's yeah, it's so much has happened, and I'm just grateful that relevancy is still a thing. And I want to feel sexy. I'm sure you feel you know, and but.

01:07:29
Speaker 1: You look like thank you.

01:07:31
Speaker 4: Clothes to me is so much fun, and I don't. I have so much clothes that I need to start wearing my beautiful stuff that I have. And I'm so grateful on moving in with a person who is like a lot more organized than me, so that's going to be very helpful. I have so many beautiful clothes and shoes that I've like bought like it's very helpful. But but of course my kind of sexy and being online is a little more provocative, and I just you know, if anybody out there can be helpful, because these guys, these other contractions, you talk to him about stuff like that, they don't want to talk about feelings. They don't want to talk about you.

01:08:11
Speaker 2: Know, well it doesn't make good context.

01:08:14
Speaker 1: Well imagine we're in the club and Boomer and I were just having a sit down, heart to heart about our feelings. But that's all people always do.

01:08:22
Speaker 4: That.

01:08:22
Speaker 1: People will come up to and be like, meanwhile, everyone around this is like, yeah, everyone look.

01:08:28
Speaker 4: Me and you were having a conversation about something. And literally when we were leaving, my partner is like, hey, it's this guy's birthday and he wants to meet you for his birthday. So it was happening when I met you.

01:08:41
Speaker 1: Always happening.

01:08:43
Speaker 4: It was happening when I met you, and and people are always really present. I'm okay saying hi because they see the tattoos and they're like, you know.

01:08:52
Speaker 1: How how do you And if it's okay, if you don't have a way to feel sexier, get out of your funk. Because I think I was talking about yeah, that way. I've been talking about.

01:09:02
Speaker 4: It because the more I talk about it, that gives it gives the power. It takes the power away from whatever it is.

01:09:08
Speaker 1: I think.

01:09:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I get I used to get the word. And I don't like when people tell me that I'm intimidating. I find that very very much a dog by silver, a person of color. Yeah, maybe you're intimidated, which is different.

01:09:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not your problem.

01:09:28
Speaker 4: It's not my problem, right, But people say that a lot, and it's like, but then when they get to know me, they're like, oh, you're actually nice. Well actually yeah, I mean now I don't know if I want to be nice.

01:09:42
Speaker 1: Sometimes people think that I'm going to like bitch them out, or that I'm like a mean lawyer, or that I'm like or that I'm like too busy to chat with them.

01:09:49
Speaker 4: Or I've ever met a mean lawyer? I see them on TV.

01:09:53
Speaker 3: Oh, I've definitely met some. I've worked for some mean lawyers. Yeah, they're so angry. They're angry, they're bitter, they're tired.

01:10:03
Speaker 1: What kind of layers are they? For me?

01:10:05
Speaker 2: Was litigation?

01:10:06
Speaker 1: Okay? Anyway? Thank you? Where where come? I'll find you?

01:10:11
Speaker 6: You can where and they can go to so SoundCloud as boomer Banks, SoundCloud as boomer Banks. Uh. Instagram is always going to be Bacon Lever. It's bacon l v R, which I used. I started literally when Instagram started.

01:10:26
Speaker 1: I was like, what's my name going to be?

01:10:29
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, Bacon Lever. But for me, it was like bringing home the bacon. Yeah, that was so hard to explain. Some people was like, you like bacon.

01:10:37
Speaker 1: I was like, sure, we're showing up to your shows handing you back bacon.

01:10:42
Speaker 4: I have to throw a so much stuff that people.

01:10:45
Speaker 2: Are like, oh, I have this.

01:10:46
Speaker 4: And I don't want to throw it away. I have this cute little piggy bank that someone game and it's his boomer on the side, and I just looked at it and I was like, I don't want to throw that away. People would always bring me bacon stuff bacon to the all the time, or actual bacon.

01:11:01
Speaker 7: Someone brought me candyed bacon once. Yeah, mine is pile of cash lover at on all platforms. If you want to bring me anything, it's just my venmo venmo at.

01:11:15
Speaker 4: But yeah, and it's and and I still call it Twitter. Do you guys call it X?

01:11:19
Speaker 1: I call it Twitter?

01:11:20
Speaker 4: Who calls it X?

01:11:21
Speaker 2: I'll go back and forth between Twitter X.

01:11:24
Speaker 4: I think I call it X if someone's like it's X, Like okay, it's X. Yeah, Twitter, it's boomer Underscore Banks because someone took boomer Banks, Like what.

01:11:32
Speaker 1: Who does that? Cyber squatting?

01:11:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, well someone had boomer banks dot com forever and I guess they let it go. And my business partner was like, boomemegx is available and I was like, oh, buy it. Yeah, yeah, buy it for me. I want to use it for my music. And that's why we named the website for skinmafia dot com. It's funny, it's cheeky. It's not just people with foreskin. That word is so polarizing though, foreskin is it?

01:12:01
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you think so? No, it's right.

01:12:05
Speaker 4: It is a body part in my house. A lot of people don't have that body partner.

01:12:08
Speaker 1: That's right, my house. Calling everything by like the proper term.

01:12:12
Speaker 4: That was like the role really vachina?

01:12:15
Speaker 1: Yep, it was vagina. Penis like there was nois.

01:12:18
Speaker 4: But now penis is like a really like the Gooners they love using that word.

01:12:24
Speaker 1: Just laughed.

01:12:30
Speaker 4: Community, Yeah, they use the word penis. They use a lot of property and anatomicals are appropriating.

01:12:40
Speaker 2: You do not really quick lay on.

01:12:44
Speaker 4: It is this new, not new, It's always been a thing, but now it's bigger and these I think it's his way of doing content without having to interact with someone else. And they can make money, okay, and they'll just go on there and it's this face that they make and they start.

01:12:58
Speaker 1: Truly, it's like people who are like addicted to masturbating, masturbating, and so they masturbating, they get close to masturbating and you get that like face yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you stop and then you stop this like highly dramatized. But then they talk.

01:13:12
Speaker 4: They're very verbal, so they talk about their penis, okay.

01:13:16
Speaker 1: And they like over enunciate.

01:13:18
Speaker 2: That seems like such an.

01:13:19
Speaker 4: Very interesting way. And I don't want to go there because then I'll sound like I'm gooning on your brief recess. And it's like brief recess to goon.

01:13:32
Speaker 2: And I'm going to google gooner.

01:13:34
Speaker 1: You're going to go on this.

01:13:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, a rabbit hole. I'm okay with it.

01:13:41
Speaker 4: Not the work, not the work, but yeah, and so and then I also have the toys on flesh Shock.

01:13:48
Speaker 1: And you can you can buy the toys. You can buy the toy and that's on forcek and Mafia dot Com.

01:13:53
Speaker 4: No, the toys are on flesh light dot.

01:13:56
Speaker 1: Com, flesh dot com flash.

01:13:57
Speaker 4: Light or flesh jack dot com flush Jack.

01:13:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, your whole anatomy.

01:14:02
Speaker 4: My whole anatomy is available.

01:14:04
Speaker 1: It's such a weird way to use the word hole. I'm sorry, and that's not what I meant. That's what I meant it is. I do want to ask you really quick, what's it like? How do you make them? I'm curious how.

01:14:12
Speaker 4: The I was literally in the group of last people that used molding, actual molding. Now they do like a three deep and mine is your wier so it's not a three D printer. They literally like use you know that green stuff they put in your mouth for to mold your teeth.

01:14:31
Speaker 1: Yes, they use that.

01:14:32
Speaker 4: So they put it in a big old thing and you put insert your penis in the like plaster. Yeah, and then mine is literally identical, like there's a side by side and but like the new guys, it looks bigger because it was like they do the little dots, the little I don't know what it's called now the image of their penis.

01:14:54
Speaker 1: Well, it's a great gift. I mean, we have Easter coming up baskets, Mother's Day, Fithers Day. Yeah, you know, Grandpa's retirement party. I mean, you don't know.

01:15:06
Speaker 4: And this is like, I don't know where was I yesterday? Someone's like, I have your dildo and I was like cool church that church.

01:15:16
Speaker 1: Anyway, Thank you for coming, thank you for joining us, thank you for being here. It was great having you. For sure to check out what we're banks on SoundCloud. Yes, and we're looking forward to seeing you on our next segment, Tails from the DMS. No, that's actually the segment. It's gonna be my DMS, not Boomers.

01:15:39
Speaker 2: We'll get in trouble.

01:15:41
Speaker 1: We're going to jump right into Tales from the DMS. I thought it would be fun to answer some of your questions. We actually have some reviews that CJ pulled together. Melissa. Do you want to read some of the reviews? I do.

01:15:51
Speaker 2: Let's see.

01:15:52
Speaker 1: Okay, this is funny. The Jenny Jones story when we did the Gay Panic Defense, the way I felt my age realizing you had to just gribe nineties talk shows to people to set up a Jenny Jones story. It really was a time.

01:16:07
Speaker 2: I was there.

01:16:07
Speaker 1: It was a time capsule. I lived it. I lived I lived.

01:16:11
Speaker 2: No, you didn't. You didn't really live it.

01:16:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I lived.

01:16:13
Speaker 2: Were getting milk and cookies?

01:16:14
Speaker 4: You were.

01:16:15
Speaker 1: I was staying homesick from school to watch Sure and and Plinko.

01:16:19
Speaker 2: No, I was older in high school. Yeah, let's see. Oh this is actually really funny. The Art Theft episode. What a treat to listen to this show after a steady nightmarish diet of horrific news. I feel almost clean now. Thank that good clean feeling. That good clean, that's squeaky clean feeling.

01:16:43
Speaker 1: Irish spring feeling.

01:16:44
Speaker 2: That is the worst fucking soap it runny. When I first started CRISP.

01:16:50
Speaker 3: When I first started dating Andre, the first night I spent the night at his place and I got into that shower and I saw irish spring.

01:16:58
Speaker 2: I was like, I have to help this man.

01:17:00
Speaker 1: Oh speaking of help.

01:17:01
Speaker 2: Yeah.

01:17:02
Speaker 1: From the ice abuse episode with Congressman Robert Garcia, we have a comment from Spinella six nine. I'm not going to do it. I have a runway show with Melissa's wardrobe and auction it all off. I wish I could help you. I have the same problem. I love thrifting. Yeah, hate throwing away useful things that have a life left feel like the quantity of stuff I have in my life is in direct conflict with my.

01:17:22
Speaker 2: Face about on the other hand, is a real bitch and could help you clean out that store.

01:17:28
Speaker 5: I didn't know it.

01:17:31
Speaker 2: I am. I have to tell you that I think that I am afraid to like open my closet.

01:17:38
Speaker 1: But what I really would like might following you and you might suffocate to death.

01:17:44
Speaker 2: My mother, my mother will say if I don't call her, she'll say, you didn't call me. I'm like, I know, Mom. She's like, you didn't call me. You never know. The refrigerator could have fell on me. And I'm like, and also where my parents refrigerator is in the kitchen. There's no way, there's no way it's going to hit the cabinet. She's like, you don't know.

01:18:13
Speaker 1: I love you. Okay, we've got a quick question. Someone sent in a question. Please send us your questions, call in and leave us a message through my link tree, or write into brief recess at exactly rightmedia dot com.

01:18:24
Speaker 2: Okay, and don't forget friends. What do I always say, Well, Michael is a lawyer. He's not your lawyer. Get your own.

01:18:31
Speaker 1: I'm that girl everyone's girl. So this person says, do you want to read the.

01:18:37
Speaker 3: Question federal jury duty tips? I have been summoned for federal jury duty in redacted state. Any tips that the general internet probably doesn't have. It's my first time for any jury duty at all, and being a federal case, it's making me nervous.

01:18:54
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is a little confusing because your jury summons was four or a federal case. That's like, that's happened to me, that's happened to you. Yeah, that's a really really long time ago. But yeah, and they were interesting to federal court. All right. I guess what I want to know before I give you a tip is like, do you want to know how to get out of it or how to like survive it?

01:19:16
Speaker 2: Like what is what is your why don't we do both?

01:19:18
Speaker 1: Okay? How to get out of it? I would listen to what kind of case it is, what attorneys are looking for in here, and that's what eer is. The selection process for a jury is someone who is going to have like extreme bias against one of the parties or has and that bias can be from you worked for that company or you worked in an industry that is going to give you too much insight. So when you're in that jury room, you are sharing things that the lawyers don't want you sharing, right.

01:19:51
Speaker 2: What if whatever. Let's say there was a crime and you had been a victim of that same crime.

01:19:56
Speaker 1: Oh, biasias, huge prejudice A yeah, So that's also a way that people kind of get out of it. If you want to know, like how to survive federal jury, it is It's possible. It's going to be intense and long.

01:20:12
Speaker 2: It could be really long.

01:20:14
Speaker 1: Because oftentimes if they're getting to a place where you're getting a federal jury summons, you are the case is definitely going to trial. It's not like we're going to play this out like the lawyers have tried everything. This is a serious enough case where it's gotten to federal court. The lawyers and the parties are probably looking for some sort of precedent here, so that's why you're getting that summon. So it's going to be a buckle up because it will be like a trap in a long process, but probably a fascinating experience. And remember, some people get a book deal as a juror, so if it was a fierce case that makes headlines, you can always sell that shit. You could afterwards, though, don't say anything. Don't.

01:20:56
Speaker 3: No, you're not allowed to say anything. Yes, actually that's really important. You're not allowed to say anything to anybody during the trial. Afterwards, don't call in until after and tell us all about it. Yeah, afterwards.

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