BONUS: Heather McDonald Is So Nice, We Had To Have Her Twice!

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Speaker 1: And my love that is La La Camp. Welcome to the bonus episode. I have Jessica Walter and I have had the McDonald's welcome Welcome Today, we're just gonna do questions. Jessica wrote in on the IG page, what questions do you have for myself? And Heather aka? The funniest human I've ever met? I don't have it. Anybody's shit ever funny, So thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: I think you're funny too.

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Speaker 1: That is a huge compliment because when people don't laugh at should I say? I look over and I'm like, did you hear what I said? Why aren't you laughing funny?

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Speaker 4: She'll call out a fake laugh too. I've been like a hah and she goes, don't fucking fake laugh?

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Speaker 1: Don't do me any fake Do we have questions?

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Speaker 3: We have?

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Speaker 4: So many people are very excited Heather's on this. I don't understand this question, but I'm gonna read it because I don't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Heather does or I do. When did you.

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Speaker 4: Find out about Brittany and Julian? Did she break girl code?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: That's for you, that's the Brittany.

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Speaker 2: I just heard it somehow. Someone just revealed it like in a show, or is britt This is Brittany Cartwright. I just heard somewhere that she dated someone briefly who used to work at one of the restaurants, who was good friends with Jacks and they're no longer together, but he was on a break with somebody and she was newly separated from Jack's and they had a little, a little rendezvous.

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Speaker 1: But you're Julian, Okay, don't call him, sorry, So let me a story here. Let me tell you Julian and I used to hook up. When you say hookup, we fucked each other. Okay, thanks, when I was living on Olympic in Stossey's old apartment that was then my apartment. Okay, so this was going on eleven years ago. I met him when I first moved to LA He was living in Hawaii. He'd come out, we would do the damn thing, and then he would go back home.

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Speaker 3: How did you meet him?

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Speaker 1: I met him. I think it was through Facebook. Oh, it was through Facebook.

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Speaker 5: That's wild.

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Speaker 1: And then cut to three years ago, I leave my ex, I move into the treehouse. He slides into my DM. Keep in mind, he's a very good looking dude. Okay, six six five six six, covered in tattoos, hot and we start talking and he's he's a little bit intense. I had literally just broken up with my eggs and he's talking about pro creating already and our children playing together as siblings. So he's a lot. But I start bringing him around the group.

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Speaker 3: Britney, but do you start boning him again?

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Speaker 1: We never have sex. We make out, but like I didn't with anyone until the Dawn, which was okay, like nine months anyway, never fucked him again. We would only kiss got it. But I would bring him on like double double dates, group dates. So that's how Jackson Brittany know him is I would send It was like Britney's dude, what was his name? Jack's Janet's husband Jason, and then Julian would go, wow, a lot of Jay's right now love me. I'm like, this is just a lot of j names. They would go out and have like guys nights, and Julian would FaceTime me in. It was like it was just a nice distraction. It wasn't my boyfriend, but it was like, oh, our guys get along. Well, then I do the background check and we won't go there. I tell him we're not in alignment, and I sent him on his way. He continues to be best friends with this group of guys. Brittany starts hooking up with him during her separation with Jack's. It comes out out good for her, but yes, I introduced him to the group. That's how everyone knows.

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Speaker 2: Will Julie this guy on future episodes of vander Pumper Valley.

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Speaker 1: So season ten, I have a scene with him that they cut if they cover it on the Valley they do have something to pull, which is me and this freaking guy, who I guess is now engaged. Go back a couple of years. Katie Maloney goes, I'm so happy you're not talking to Julian anymore. And I go why, and she goes because I got a DM saying, is Lala still messing with Julian? I just want to let you know he still lives with his baby mama, who he's now engaged to. He's not we're not in alignment, I will say, so, he's not still hooking up with Brittany. No. Once they got caught, which who even cares? Right? Once they got caught, I think he kind of showed his true colors and a borded mission on her, and thank god, because I'm like, you should have a boarded mission on him. He's not he's not in alignment.

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Speaker 2: He just sounds that nice though, first bone after seven years.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the best, the best.

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Speaker 2: Like what you described, just climbing like a tall, tattooed delight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little, a tense, a little fucked up.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want. These girls catch feelings, yeah, after they have sex, and then you look like that guy's the danger.

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Speaker 2: But also like I could see why that would why that would be appealing as like your first step into like frush dick Wood.

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Speaker 1: Yes. However, I did feel when Jack's first found out because this was known amongst the group a while ago, it just made it to press, which I don't know why it took so long. Maybe an angry axe or something was like, oh, Jollian was fucking britty, well they were still married whatever. It's like bullshit. But I feel a little bad because Jack calls me and he's like, did you know this? And I'm like I did. Hope You're okay kind of is it right? But I'm like, damn that I first bring a guy into Jack's's life who basically takes seventy five grand from him, and then the next guy bring around Fox his wife. It's like, I gotta stop bringing dudes around. They can't take him from Jack's okay.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I have a question about a cryptic post that he did now a while ago. Jack's yeah, when there was like they're broken up, They're not broken up?

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Speaker 3: Is this for the show? We don't know what's going on?

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Speaker 2: He posted something like maybe it was on x or maybe it was on Instagram, where he goes, why don't you ask her Brittany who she's been sleeping with the last four months? It's it's Julian, Okay, Because then after that he posted a photo of Cruise in bed like with Britney. So then I was like, oh, is he being cutesie that she's been sleeping with their son like you know, a toddler. No.

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Speaker 1: I think Jackson wants to keep the waters calm and wants to paint the pretty pretty picture of even he goes on his rampages where he wants to out her. But then it's like, oh wait, I got to put my mask back on and create the pretty week co parent. She likes me. I'm not a piece of shit.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a question, you know, because pretty textbook people were you know, posted about how he went in to court representing himself and gave.

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Speaker 3: Her, you know, full custody.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I was reading under reality blurb and there were you know, things that were very oh DeBie dah blah blah blah, and I wrote right at the top, I said, I would like to interpret this as a man, a father realizing that he's going to co parent with a woman who is going to absolutely let him see the child, be with a child everything.

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Speaker 3: But it's best for the child to have a.

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Speaker 2: Solid one parent in charge in parte of the home. And I believe that for a lot of people. But you know, thirty years ago or something, they said, oh, fifty to fifty, you know, California, and I don't always think that's the best for kids. And so I was thinking he was recognizing that and realizing that, but then I guess he switched it back. Do you have any knowledge of what that was all about?

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm not going to speak too much on it. Brittany and I have many conversations because I've i haven't been through a divorce, but I've been through the custody. I'm still very much in that, and I think when you're also in the public eye, and because they're going through if this were just custody and they didn't have to file it together, custody is never put out for anybody to find. It is locked up. But because it's a part of a divorce, that's public record, and so I think maybe his PR team is working overtime on the look of it. I just hope both parties put Cruise as the forefront of this.

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Speaker 3: I actually think that would be the right thing for Cruise. Yeah, is that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think everyone has my placement on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has a set schedule, and I truly believe Brittany would never did him having an afternoon scheduling, having a schedule thing, and then also being like, hey, Brittany, like I had the day off, could I take him to the beach?

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Speaker 3: Could I go to you know?

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Speaker 2: I just I think we know that about her and that she wouldn't be like that. But I think for him too, you know, whether you know crew just it's just nice to have. It's just it's easier and breaking up a week. Like you could ask any thirty year old today that lived in two separate homes.

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Speaker 3: What was the hardest part about your childhood?

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Speaker 2: And they're gonna say that I had to live in two separate homes when I was a kid, right, And there's a lot of men now that are saying, Hey, I know, I.

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Speaker 3: Was granted fifty to fifty. Let's let the child stay all week with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna, you know, figure out, based on their schedule what night I can take them out to dinner.

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Speaker 3: And then I've got these.

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Speaker 1: Weekends only pieces of shit. Fight it only pieces of shit.

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Speaker 3: I just is like, it's just easier for everybody, And.

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Speaker 1: It's the ego, it's the narcissism.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about a kid.

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Speaker 2: How many times has every parenting person will tell you, kids, especially toddlers, no matter what they're dealing with, all toddlers thrive on schedule.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: I wake up, then I have my breakfast, pick up my backpack, go to preschool.

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Speaker 3: Da da da da da da dua.

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Speaker 1: They do. And they may tell you the moment that ocean loses structure, she becomes a nightmare, a child that I that I don't even recognize her. What do you expect? Yeah, of course I think Jacks is gonna do what's best for Cruisy, and so is Brittany. And I know that. Brittany, let me tell you something with what she has been going through in her her personal life that sometimes is shown on the show sometimes, isn't. I am truly inspired by her. I'm impressed by her.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you too, and you obviously know are a million times better than I.

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Speaker 3: But I and I truly believe that, like.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe showing this on the show, maybe this will make other couples realize that just because you're ranted this and just because these are your exact hours and this is your exact thing, that you don't treat this like not what it is, which is a human little child that needs to be raised, and.

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Speaker 3: Not this is your legal right.

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Speaker 2: Don't come at five thirty, I have him till six, No side in the one hundred degree heat, like I mean, just like that kind of bullshit. No, And you know, it's just like, just realize the time goes by really fast, and the times that people waste on money and fighting and all that.

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Speaker 3: As someone who you know.

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Speaker 2: Raised a stepdaughter and had to deal with some of that in the beginning years, it's just so dumb, like just please, like, don't someone.

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Speaker 1: Can see this?

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Speaker 3: And and I hope that he's a great example of that too.

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Speaker 1: So you know, no, with with what she has gone through and goes through, I am really really just in awe of her. And she's is it into the occasion? She rose to the occasion. Yeah, and is fucking killing it. And I believe that that Jack sees that and everything is going to work out to where Cruise thrives in this entire situation.

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Speaker 2: And I will say this, mothers and fathers are both parents, but they are different.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's even when they're together.

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Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying it takes over right, it's a different thing, you know, and when you've carried the baby and it you know, it's it's just a different thing about instinct and everything to this day, you know, Like, yeah, I'm like, why isn't Drake answering the thing? And I tell Peter and he's like, well, it shows he's in his room And I'm like, I know, but is he dead and is room?

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Speaker 1: I don't know?

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Speaker 3: Why is he answering the phote? Peter love him, he's a great, great dad, but he goes to bed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm not going to bed. I get it.

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Speaker 2: And then finally at two am, he rolls over and sees and he just got tired of fell sleep whatever, and he knows to call me, and I'm just like, I just want you to know that, like it never stops.

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Speaker 3: And it's just a difference.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that a dad is less of a parent, but they have male body parts and they it's just a different way of raising a child than a mom. And it's just it just is what it is, you know. It's like, of course there's some bad moms, and there's some definite dads that should have custody over a bad mom, but in most cases, it's like it's a different thing and it just has to be respected on both parts. And I think it's great that we're gonna you know, that they're sharing it on the show or whatever they are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Whatever they choose to share.

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Speaker 3: Is fine too.

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Speaker 2: And if they don't choose to share it or whatever, if it gets cut, like, don't be the viewer that's like barking about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please beg you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna lighten it up for both of you. Mary fuck kill real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Oh see Miami.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely I'm deaf.

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Speaker 3: Women are the husbands.

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Speaker 1: It's just the franchise.

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Speaker 3: Are the franchises and what are the choices of the franchise? Sorry, I was to give all the characters same.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm killing Alexis Okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: And we want to hear the reasoning. Beverly Hills, OC, Miami.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm fucking Miami. Oh but I.

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Speaker 5: Can't why because Miami is fun and spicy or what?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Because you always fuck Miami. Okay, I'm killing all problem. All right, I'm gonna have to kill Miami. I guess I'll fuck Beverly Hills and I'll marry OC.

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Speaker 2: I'm exactly the same, really well, because I love OCA, and you know that's the I'd rather live in OC than Beverly Hills. If I was to move from LA from where I am in the Valley, I'd rather go to the o C. And I just have well, I just know a lot of those girls, and I'll never stop watching the show. But then I want to fuck Beverly Hill because you know, it's it's like a different it's more of a romance like OC is like familiarity, and it's it's a little more on my level, and Beverly Hills is still Beverly Hills, so it's aspirational total and then Miami, Yeah, I love it, but I'm not as tied to it.

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Speaker 4: No, right, yeah, okay, okay, that's good. Many people asking you, guys. This one says in all caps, must discuss Ditty.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear your thoughts. You go. So last week we talked about it for the first time because I had been out for a while, and there is this woman, Talia Graves, who is one of Ditty's alleged victims. She's being represented by Gloria. Already, I said, I worry about the women being represented by Gloria because Gloria loves to get a settlement, and with a settlement comes the hush letter. Shut the fuck up. Here's X amount of dollars. Go away, and I from expears, they go away. They need warm bodies in the sea to testify against Ditty for anything to happen. Well, after that episode came out, I hear that Talia Graves is being exposed quote unquote for trying to get her ex boyfriend to corroborate her story, and it was for the amount of three million dollars that she would pay him. I personally deep dived into my conspiracy theorist mind and said, she's been set up. Where the fuck is she pulling three million dollars from to pay her ex boyfriend? Okay, I also think that.

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Speaker 3: So you don't think this is the truth.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's the truth at all. I think there's been a setup to try and discredit her. That's that is the only play that Ditty and his council have.

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Speaker 3: Because the boyfriend, the boyfriend worked for Ditty.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm yes. So now I'm I'm going to say that my feeling is fact she was set up.

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Speaker 2: As far as it goes, I have covered it deep, from the TikTok stuff to the Jaguar right, Jalli Carter, who is the young girl that says that she was trafficked and in the tunnels, And now I talked about the tunnels under the houses, and now they're saying, no, how that that that has been proved there are totals under the houses.

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Speaker 3: You didn't think I didn't know if it was proven. I didn't know if it was just people talking about it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if there was actual footage that they have collected from the tunnels underneath Ditty's house, you know, to the Playboy mansion, to Michael Jackson's house two Nick, now I'm hearing Jack Nicholson two had tooles. I don't know if those tunnels were built from a developer way back when, as like a bomb shelter back in the forties, and then they've used them for sinister stuff.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the tunnel thing is. So I've said it all.

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Speaker 2: I've said Jaguar Wright is the Forest Gump of the hip hop world.

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Speaker 3: She seems to have been there for every single thing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but let's so also, Yeah, this same day that we record talking about Diddy and me talking about being invited to a jay Z party at when I was fourteen by a very well known agent who was with a very large agency, I read where were you were you in LA?

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Speaker 2: For?

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Speaker 1: I was at the Yes, I was here doing what cause you live here? You know? I went to I was fourteen. We came to Newport Beach every single summer. We came up to LA to visit my best friend Candaces aunts who live in Santa Monica. We were eating at the Ivy on Robertson.

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Speaker 3: This just a cute little hot thing Porsche.

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Speaker 1: Cayenne passes, flips around, he gets out, he's his name is Blah Blah Blah and he's with Blah agency and he wants to meet with me. Invites me to a jay Z party. In my mind, I'm thinking I can't get into a party. I'm fourteen, not saying that there was a reason for why I was being invited at the age of fourteen. But I then see that Beyonce and jay Z have sent Pierce Morgan a legal letter after he interviewed Jaguar Right and she talked about jay Z and Beyonce. What is it?

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Speaker 5: Cease and desist?

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Speaker 2: He right, So then he had to apologize take it out. And I think that is a warning, not a Jaguar right who they're not suing her because if they sued.

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Speaker 3: Her, then she they they received.

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Speaker 2: That it's not true and she she doesn't have money, so so but I think they would.

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Speaker 3: What they want is for people at a higher.

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Speaker 2: Level, whether that means Lalla, myself, piis Morgan whatever, just be afraid to talk about us at all, okay, so just be afraid to talk about to ignore it, say that this woman doesn't know what she's talking about, and you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but can I tell you? Because my mom said, if I were Jaguar, right, I wouldn't give a fuck. I would say, I'm not gonna stop talking. Sue me. And I said, at that point in time, you don't worry about being sued. You worried about You're worried about your life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree. Really, I think by saying it now, they can't kill you. I think they kill you before you're gonna say it. I think, and this is.

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Speaker 3: My opinion, alleged, alleged my opinion, but it's my opinion. But when people.

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Speaker 2: Question, did Kim Porter really die of pneumonia at forty three?

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Speaker 3: A healthy pit girl? But why?

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Speaker 2: I think she did not like that her sons were going around with p ditty to these freak offs, and I think she was like, I'm going to tell and then I think she got a very bad cold, and then a very bad cold, a very bad cold, and then you know, because she maybe she was stressed and maybe she didn't take her vitamin C and then she.

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Speaker 3: Just didn't wake up. Do you and then you know, and then and then the and you know, the.

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Speaker 2: Kid just love their both their parents, So I can understand why they are upset that anyone would think that she just didn't have a very bad coal that led to pneumonia. But yeah, I think, you know, I think it's it's when. But once you put it out there, you know, like now I think, no, if all of a sudden Jaguar right got pneumonia and died, well yeah it sucks, you know, should she'll be dead, But I don't think. I almost think that's making you safer is to like sing like a canary, because now they don't if something happens to you, then they are going to be looked at.

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Speaker 1: No, actually, I I I'm saying it don't kill me. I said it, I've said it don't kill me. But then, but order didn't her doctor something, someone also very closely tied to her die, her.

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Speaker 3: Ex, someone who was giving a j I'll be sure, No, no, no, it was her ex.

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Speaker 4: I got a fact check this. I saw it on TikTok but died of pneumonia. Who there was like some drama and then all of a sudden he dies of pneumonia.

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Speaker 3: Someone else dies of pneumonia.

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Speaker 5: I think it was ditty. Can I not say?

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Speaker 1: I think everyone's saying it right. I mean, it's just like anyone will get anything.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of listen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there was the East Coast, West Coast beef, there was you know, it was that time, was Mafioso. You know, it's mafia, and it's like if you watch the Sopranos, you know, people that were very likable at one time had to go. The character of Adriana in Sopranos once she started talking to the girl that she thought was her friend, who was actually undercover for the FBI, she had to go.

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Speaker 3: She's going to root it for all of us.

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Speaker 2: It has to be killed, doesn't matter how delightful she was whatever. So it's like I think that then whatever their weird thing is, my concern is that we are going to talk about it, be sucked into it, to a million shows on it, and in the end there isn't gonna be one other A lister that we're going to be told they page six and New York Posts can write as many, Oh, these two A listers gave these girls herpes and these two and this person saw something on a video that's too upsetting.

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Speaker 3: Just let me know, is there anybody is anybody else going to be arrested?

00:23:19
Speaker 2: Because the only person that was arrested in the Epstein thing was just a Giselle whatever.

00:23:24
Speaker 3: She's the only one.

00:23:25
Speaker 2: The only one that took a fall for Epstein is a woman, not one other person.

00:23:29
Speaker 3: So I'm like, and she deserves to take.

00:23:31
Speaker 1: It's because everyone has It's because everyone has a price. Yeah, and it just it is what it is, and.

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Speaker 2: It covers from like you know, local cops to whatever to whatever to whatever to you know, we don't know, Like I mean, you look at what you know went on with you know, even the drug giving the drugs to Matthew Perry and like how that's done with legitimate doctors and covering it up, and it's I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's just like hello, oh this is this is la Like, this is it's here.

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Speaker 5: You know, then you wonder how much power do we really have?

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Speaker 4: I just I know that's because like the Jeffrey Epstein documents, everyone it's all over TikTok, all over the news, and it's almost like the powers that be go, eh, they'll forget about it.

00:24:15
Speaker 5: Well, let me any more names.

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Speaker 1: I learned this two and a half three years ago. Now everyone has a price, and I've learned the justice system doesn't give a fuck, and you can basically be the biggest piece of shit on the planet and you will most likely get away with it. There's so many moving pieces that have to come into play for you to actually pay and do time and be convicted of something, and it makes you lose faith in humanity. And I think it's a huge reason why I don't allow anyone into my circle. Ditty is on a different level, but the tiny piece that I have experienced, I don't want any part of anybody except for the people that have been around from the jump. The amount of people who have tried to get me on the phone to share stories. I'm like, you got something to say, tell somebody who can do something about it, and I expect you to not take the payoff. But they always fucking do. Yeah, they always fucking take it. So I will sit here and I'll talk about it and pray to God that women show up and be the warm body in the seat with the diddy stuff and hold people accountable. But the money, just money, does a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the same thing with the Harry Weinstein you know, like, yeah, everybody knew it was happening, not until it was all exposed. Now we're all wearing black to the Oscars and the sticker. But when it was happening for twenty years, you know, the only one that said anything, Court and you fucking.

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Speaker 1: Love Yeah, and look at her career of and look at all these all the women who came out and made such a big difference, and they were.

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Speaker 2: Wearing Oscars contender, she was a nominated for an Oscar. Yeah, and then she was on the red carpet and they go, any advice you won last year, last year, and she goes, don't go into a hotel room with Harvey Weinstein.

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Speaker 1: If you get invited to the Four Seasons with Harvey Weinstein, don't go. But she also talked about girl, let me tell you something.

00:26:20
Speaker 3: Dad of the Year has come out.

00:26:22
Speaker 1: But all the women who spoke up and the hashtag me too, and now we're wearing this to the Oscars and this those women haven't been hired in forever because you're now a liability. You made such a fucking big difference. But if I want to act up and not act right. You may tell because you snitched and you brought Harvey down. Thank you for your good work, but don't come around me because I don't want to be next.

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Speaker 2: It's like the Hollywood I call the Hollywood stink on you, Yes, where they're like, I'm not going to say anything bad about you, but I'm not in you to parties.

00:26:55
Speaker 3: I'm not going to hire you. I'm not going to fuck with you.

00:26:58
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna act like I never knew you because you spoke up and you expose something.

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Speaker 1: And you may do it to me. Yeah, because I don't exactly act right. No, it's disgusting. The whole thing is appalling, repulsive. I just want to stay in my little bubble. It's why I don't leave. I know what exists out there. I don't want any parts of it.

00:27:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you just want to go to a ranch in Wyoming forever and just like be away from all of it. But I will say too, let's just mention with the ditty thing. And yes, of course we hope and pray these women show up, but you also men with ditty and men you also have to start thinking about these people have families, it's lives now.

00:27:42
Speaker 5: It's not just like accepting a payoff.

00:27:44
Speaker 4: It's like, in my opinion, you have to start worried about Yeah, maybe I won't get killed because it's too public, but who in my circle?

00:27:53
Speaker 5: What about my kids? What about my new husband?

00:27:55
Speaker 1: What about.

00:27:57
Speaker 3: Which is a lot.

00:28:00
Speaker 2: Too Yeah, No, it is so just I just say keep watching and we'll see.

00:28:04
Speaker 3: I hope it all gets revealed.

00:28:07
Speaker 1: Well, Kat Williams has nailed everything, and he said twenty twenty four is the day where Hollywood is exposed. Twenty four, we'll see. I don't know. I was also told my life was going to peak at twenty twenty four for.

00:28:21
Speaker 3: A psychic, but I kind of did.

00:28:23
Speaker 1: I mean, I gave birth to a beautiful, healthy baby. It is peaking, you know whatever.

00:28:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, like everything, you know, just just keep manifesting.

00:28:32
Speaker 3: It all work, it all comes together, keep manifesting.

00:28:37
Speaker 1: Together.

00:28:38
Speaker 4: Do you think j Lo and Ben afflex timely divorce had anything to do with Ben knowing this was coming out and that she might be exposed for knowing some stuff.

00:28:48
Speaker 1: He always seemed to be really really bummed with her, even back in the day when her when her album came out that it was like she had the song Dear Ben on there. He just never happy. I think she brought him in with the diamond shooting twat and then you know that only that's only cool for so long until you're like, you know, I'm kind of bummed out on all of this, you know, And then time passed. He forgot about the bad they got back together, diamond shooting puss, and then reality sunk in. I just think she might be tough, she's gorgeous. I'm sure she's bangs well, you know, but I think that only lasts for so long before you're like, I don't I'm not happy, So I don't think to do that.

00:29:37
Speaker 2: I think she was not interested in him. He came around after she broke up with a rod. He pursued her, she fell back into it, and then I agree with Laala in that he forgot that they were two people in the industry that saw it is very different. He was, you know, he's the right director. He does it because he loves it. He doesn't like the paparazzi. He's not a fame.

00:30:04
Speaker 1: Whore, recovering alcoholic.

00:30:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she who is a super hard worker and all that, never had one glass of champagne a year. Then, well, you know has all these different products, one being an alcohol product though it's like a light, you know whatever, drinking mix.

00:30:21
Speaker 3: But I think that.

00:30:23
Speaker 2: He, you know, I think he didn't realize that by getting with her again, he was like, oh shit, that's right. I hated all the fame stuff. I don't even think he minded it as much the first time around. He got caught cheating the first time. That's why she broke up with him. Then That's what I recall, so like.

00:30:40
Speaker 1: But he always looked miserable.

00:30:42
Speaker 2: But then this next round he was real miserable, and I think he was like, how do they know that we're a dunkin Donuts?

00:30:48
Speaker 3: Did you call the paparazzi?

00:30:50
Speaker 1: Like I think?

00:30:50
Speaker 2: And then I think also she was like, you know what, you're just like a crotchety old fifty year old man, and I am like a hard working, happy girl, and I like the fans, and I like the paparazzi, and like, I thought, you pursued me, Fuck you?

00:31:06
Speaker 3: How dare you like dump me? And so I think they.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: They went to the the you know, they went to the Beverly Hills Hotel recently and I didn't know what that was about.

00:31:16
Speaker 1: That was weird because I want to be around the parazzi.

00:31:19
Speaker 2: Bed Really, you can't get a MacArthur salad anywhere else your self, could your chef couldn't wait that.

00:31:26
Speaker 1: They were at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

00:31:28
Speaker 2: For brunch on on Emmy weekend or whatever the last.

00:31:32
Speaker 1: When since when are the paparazzi allowed at bh Hotel outside?

00:31:37
Speaker 3: You know, well, people got photos of them outside.

00:31:39
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just saying, And it was Emmy.

00:31:43
Speaker 2: Weekend, so I'm like of all the times and they weren't staying there like they were on the valley. So if you want to get the kids together and still try to like have something with the step siblings, yeah, go to Beverly Hills.

00:31:57
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Hotel. It's like the one place that you feel like you can go out and not have someone take a photo of you.

00:32:03
Speaker 2: Really really, I like that's a complete opes because every no that's.

00:32:09
Speaker 1: And they tell you anytime they see photos being taken, they will walk over and tell you put your phone down. It's gonna get to the point where I bet when you go to Polo Lounge or Beverly Hills hotel, they make you put a sticker on your phone.

00:32:22
Speaker 3: No, nobody saw them sitting at a table. That wasn't the photo. It's them walking up.

00:32:27
Speaker 1: Walking ballet and walk up still. I mean you would think that was a fan. Then that's a fan.

00:32:35
Speaker 3: You fans, But that is on people's bucket lists along with that going.

00:32:39
Speaker 1: True, I thought you meant.

00:32:40
Speaker 2: I thought Betels, it's it's Beverly Hills Hotel. I tell people all the time, you want to see stars, go to lunch at the Beverly Hills Hotel, go to Tom Tom, go to Craigs.

00:32:50
Speaker 1: But walking up, if they were sitting at a table at Polo Lounge and those pictures were published, Polo Lounge would now make you put a sticker on your line.

00:33:00
Speaker 5: I don't know.

00:33:00
Speaker 2: I didn't understand that, so I didn't know if they were trying to do a reconciliation or not.

00:33:05
Speaker 1: Some they were just better as friends. Maybe they have time together and once intimacy enters, it's like, I fucking hate you.

00:33:12
Speaker 4: I don't see him being good at sex compared to what she could get.

00:33:16
Speaker 2: Also, I think it's you're dealing with kids at a difficult age. He has three, she has two. I just think it's a lot thrown into everything. And then I think at one point she was like waiting for him to come around, and then I think she was like, you know what I'm you know, I'm j low like enough.

00:33:35
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

00:33:36
Speaker 2: But they're they filed, I guess, but they're not officially divorced, So who do I personally don't think it had to do with that.

00:33:46
Speaker 3: I don't think it helped. I don't.

00:33:48
Speaker 2: I don't know if that if she was stressed about that stuff and laid it on him and then that added to the problems in the relationship. Was like, anytime you're you're having something and you're married or whatever and it's whatever, a lawsuit of this that an illness. It doesn't make for like happy days. No, So like it could have been that, but I don't think that's.

00:34:10
Speaker 3: Why he was like, oh I got to get away from you.

00:34:12
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, well, good to know.

00:34:14
Speaker 3: It's my opinion.

00:34:14
Speaker 1: I agree my opinion.

00:34:15
Speaker 3: Someone you know, other people think that is a factor.

00:34:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't either. I don't think it was a factor. Okay, this was a legit episode. I have so much fun bumping comes with you. Heather what do you have going on before we set off?

00:34:28
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00:34:42
Speaker 3: Irvine Improv. I love performing at all these places.

00:34:46
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't just say that, but my favorite place to report perform our Chicago and Irvine Improv and so ending the year at those places.

00:34:53
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00:34:55
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening to another bonus episode of To Give Them All Up Podcast. I will catch you for a regular episode on Wednesday and next Monday for another boner episode. You're welcome by