His Story: Jack and Kim

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bechler Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and.

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Speaker 1: We are back with another round of his story and we have this week we are going to have Kim and Jack on in. Currently, right now we have Kim here, So, Kim, welcome to Bechler Happy Hours.

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Speaker 2: The Mansion Man himself.

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Speaker 1: So, Kim, do people come up to you on the street singing the Mansion Men.

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Speaker 3: They haven't sung it to me yet, but they have mentioned it when they've approached me, and so it's nice to be acknowledged for having offered that to the Bachelor Nation. Folks.

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Speaker 4: It's become like the anthem of your season, like the theme song. And it was really impressive when you and Guy sung it to Joan in the episode. But then, how did it feel seeing at the Mentell all the big performance.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that was such a shock to see the Gay Men's Chorus from La come out and form ranks like a military group and sing that song, the entire song, and they did it so well. I was more than surprised, it was. It was a shock, a very pleasant shot.

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Speaker 1: Have you have you always written songs? Is that something that you'd like to know I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not a songwriter. I kind of like poetry, and I tend to be creative anyway, but I'm not musical and I'm not musically talented, although I could whistle really well but didn't have a chance to display that on the show. But I'm not really musical. I do write poetry once in a while, and then I try to find a little tune that fits the words, and once I get the tune, and then I'm trying to fit more words to the tune. And anyway, it worked out really well. I was just I'm glad it worked out as well as it did. And it was just intended to be a little fun thing, a way to pass the time, something to do in the mansion, And got all those hours there with with not a lot to do when you don't have a date a date with Joan, and so I filled the time with just amusing myself and and I wanted to showcase the experience of the guys in the mansion, because I don't think that gets told all that well.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like you can't say that you're not musical anymore though, because you really did write an entire song that was performed.

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Speaker 1: By millions of people. People know that song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a hit.

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Speaker 3: First, I have a hit. The show has a hit. The show, the show owns the song.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if the men that didn't want to perform it with you in the mansion are regretting it now.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're regretting it. But it was nice to see him join in at the mentel hall and they all, I mean they were high five and me. They were They were really happy for me, and I think they were really happy that the you know, the song got some extreme publicity. And it's their story. It is their story. It's the story of all of us that got to live in the mansion for a few days.

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Speaker 1: Or you are a retired Navy captain.

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Speaker 3: That's correct, And how long tired navy captain?

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Speaker 1: How long did you do that for?

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Speaker 3: I was on active duty for twenty seven and a half years.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite part about that job?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Gosh, I had a lot of favorite parts. What mattered most to me? I mean, I had a couple of great jobs. And when you're captain of a destroyer, it doesn't get any better than that in terms of your career. To captain a ship much like John Paul Jones did two hundred and fifty years ago. It's the same, it's very much the same. But what I got the most satisfaction out of as a as a fairly senior leader when I was in a position of authority, was having the opportunity to influence the careers of younger folks, of the people coming up and never underestimate the impact of what you say or do when you're a senior leader and how that affects younger people. And my definition of leadership is facilitating the success of those you lead. And that's what I'm most proud of having done in my Navy career is I grew a lot of really great leaders for our navy and our nation. I felt good about that. I don't miss being in the Navy. I do miss and maybe it came across on the show occasionally too. I do miss some of the discipline and organization and and the you know, how quickly people respond to you when you when you're in a position of authority and you give an order and things just happen, and so I miss that. But I don't miss the Navy. The Navy was part of my life. It ended that you know, my navy time ended twenty one years ago. Now I've been retired for twenty one years, and I'm about looking you know, looking forward, looking ahead, and not looking back. I have great memories and great shipmates that I served with that I'm still real good friends with. But the focus needs to be on the future. And so that's what I'm That's kind of what drove me to be on the show, is look into the future.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ask so this, So these past twenty one years, do you have are you just retired? Do you have another job? What do you what do you what have you been up to?

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Speaker 3: Right? So I'm not I'm not working now. I retired, well three and a half years ago, retired, retired. But nobody's able to just retire right out of the military. You don't make that much money in retirement, and so almost everybody has to get a job, and I did. I did a couple of different things for a few years. Spent the last eleven of my working years with a major manufact era space manufacturing company in the Pacific Northwest. I'll mention the name, but most people know who that is. And I retired from there three and a half years ago. And now I am fully retired, and it's such a great job being retired.

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Speaker 5: You like it, I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it. And the best part of being retired is having the time and the means to say yes to things that you had to kind of put on hold when you were when you were working. And the thing you had to put on hold most that matters most to me is foregoing opportunities to visit with friends and family and shipmates all over the country. And so for the last three and a half years, that's how I spend most of my retired time as I travel cross country and stop and see family, friends, shipmates that I had to, you know, forego seeing for all those years that I was working. And now I got a whole bunch of new new friends to go visit to my mansion men.

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Speaker 4: All over You do you should just sell your house and travel twenty four to seven at this rate, You've got a lot of people to do that.

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Speaker 3: I have given that some some thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Or do you work out? Do you work out every day? I mean, you're sixty nine, you look incredible.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just had my seventieth birthday two months ago, so I'm seventy now seven, I'm pretty pretty proud to get to that big Now it's a big number.

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Speaker 5: Seven.

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Speaker 2: You do not you do not like seventy all.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that very much. I don't go to a gym. I do a lot of isometric stuff. I'm doing a lot of push ups every day, and I walk or run or jog or do something. I'm just staying active. Amaze you amazing how many calories you can burn gardening. And so I do a lot of different things, but I don't. I don't work out for workouts sake.

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Speaker 1: Okay to say, how did you wind up on the Golden bats are at?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Very good question. So last year in October, the Golden Bachelor was on. I didn't watch it. The only reason I even knew anything about the show was because they were putting ads during the college football games I was watching, and so the trailers were showing up, and so I was aware there was a show, but I wasn't all that interested in watching it. And I read an article online about one of the cast members leaving the show early, and I thought, well, that's interesting. That told me two things about the show. One, maybe the people on the reality TV show are real people. I wasn't really sure about that, but they're real people. And the other thing it said was a lot about jones character. She's the one that left to take care of her to be with her daughter in a tough time, and to forego fame, fortune and the chance of love to to take care of a family member. Said a lot about the person she was. And so two weeks later there was another article that said Joan was trying to get back on the show and she couldn't. And at the bottom of that article was the opportunity to apply to be on a future version of the show, either a Golden Bachelor or Golden Bachelorette. So I build out the application.

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Speaker 1: Wow, interesting, Yeah, you're the first guy to do that. And you didn't watch, ever watch the show prior.

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Speaker 3: I did not watch any of the Golden Bachelor series until two days before I flew to la to start filming the Golden Bachelorette. And I wanted to get a better idea what to expect, and I wanted it fresh in my mind. So I binge watched it.

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Speaker 1: Got it, And so you really were you really went on the show for Joan?

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Speaker 3: Well, I want on the show for Joan.

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Speaker 5: I knew.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know when that Joan was going to be the Golden Bachelorette until well into the casting process. But I went on the show in all honesty for three reasons, none of which were I didn't have the expectation that I was actually going to fall in love with the Golden Bachelorette in a short period of time like that, there's a lot of other guys competing. The odds just aren't there, So I didn't set that as a as an expectation. It would have been great if it happened, but I didn't have that as an expectation. The expectations I did have were that I wanted the adventure. You know, I may be retired and I may be old, but that doesn't mean that you're not interested in adventure and being on a TV show like that would be an adventurous, fun, interesting thing to do, and so I did it for that reason. I did it because if all my friend's family, anybody who ever has met me would get such a kick out of seeing me on TV because it's so out of character for me, you know, retired Davy cap and guy, to go and be on a reality TV show. So I knew that they would have an awful lot of fun. I'd bring a lot of smiles to a lot of faces if I did it and actually showed up on TV. The third reason I did the show, and the most important one, it really has to do with my late wife, Mary died seven years ago. Before she died, she asked that her cancer story be shared with as many women as possible. And because it's a story of late detection, misdiagnosis, late treatment, all of which probably shortened her life, and so she wanted her story told that. You know, women get a second opinion, don't necessarily trust the first doctor, get another one to look at it, make sure you listened, to be in tune with your body, all the important things that women need to know. She had a very in cancer, which is a very unforgiving cancer when it's found late. So I thought, well, if I did on the TV show, I might get a chance to share Mary's story on TV. Well, I didn't get that opportunity, but I figured if I at least make it a couple three episodes, then there will be people who want to get to know more about me, and they'll go to my website, they'll go to Facebook, They'll go to Instagram, and they will learn Mary's story. And all three of those expectations I've laid out, they've all happened in a wonderful way. And Mary's story has been shared with the right audience. Ninety percent of my fans, I guess are women, and they've been very appreciative of the story I shared on Instagram about my life.

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Speaker 4: Was it meaningful to be able to connect with Joan and the other men there that had also experienced losing a spouse?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good question. The best part of being on the show is the was the opportunity to connect with people in a similar circumstance. And it isn't just those that were widowers and and Joan of course as a widow, but even the single guys that were that had been divorced. I have a lot of male friends my age, they're all married, and so the TV show The Golden Bachelorette gave me the opportunity to to talk with visit with share stories with people in my same circumstance. And I hadn't had that opportunity, and it's it was. It was a wonderful experience. Uh And and one of the things that bonded us us together and we're still good friends.

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Speaker 1: How do you think that's impacted your life today and how you live?

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Speaker 3: I have you can never have too many friends, and having a cadre of uh, you know, fraternal brothers who have had the same experiences I've had and they're the same age group is me, and and that that has enriched my life. Their stories have enriched my life. Getting to know these guys. Spending twelve hours a day, about twenty four hours a day for several days with these guys, you built real close bonds. And that's one of the things that that I miss about being in the Navy is how close you get with the people that you go to see with and experience challenging things with. All of us guys in the mansion experienced the same adventure and had similar backgrounds, and so those friendships are enriching and they're there and they're long lasting. I mean, we've got a we've got a group. Tech's been going on all day to day.

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Speaker 1: Ye birthday, rights birthday.

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Speaker 3: We're all wishing him well. He's only sixty two, though he still a kid, still a young guy.

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Speaker 1: During your time on the show, what was your relationship. Like with Joan, it was brief.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get that I didn't get that much time with Joan. But the time that we did have to sit together and chat together, I felt that we did connect over the things that we haven't come the fact that we both lost our spouses at a young age, you know, much younger and much earlier than we ever thought would be the case, both to cancer, her husband to pancreatic cancer, my wife to a variant cancer. But they were both in their fifties, you know when they died, or he might have been sixty, but way too early. I mean, you don't. That's not something you expect is going to happen. You know, you expect you're going to have another twenty years together with this person. And so we connected on that basis. Family is awfully important to both of us, and so she's got children and grandchildren. She has four children, I have four children. She's got three grandchildren. I've got four grandchildren. We both have degrees in computer science. What are the odds that two people our age have degrees in computer science? Joan is a very smart woman. In addition to being beautiful and personal, she's she's a very bright lady, and so we had we had a lot of things to connect with and I hope we'll continue to be friends. She reached out after the last show and shared her email and phone number with me, and and I hope we get a chance to visit together again. Sometimes.

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Speaker 1: What has are you? Are you ready to date? Are you dating? What's dating life like for you now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? A good question. Yes, I'm I'm ready to date. I didn't date at all for five and a half years after Mary passed away. It just I don't know. I just wasn't that interested in doing and that, plus I was still working and busy. And then once I retired and made my first cross country vacation trip driving, I realized and did some overseas travel, I realized how much more enjoyable it would be to have a romantic companion with me. And so I've dated a little bit. I am dating now, but there's no I'm not in a relationship at this point, and so I'm still I'm still dating. Was not a lot, a little bit here and there.

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Speaker 1: What's the ideal situation or woman for you and your life currently? What are you looking for?

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for someone who is independent, someone who doesn't need a guy, need someone, but wants someone because I feel the same way. I'm not looking to to I don't have a need that I need filled. I want to be with somebody. It's not that I need to be with somebody. I would like to have someone to be with, and I would hope that person would feel the same independent. I'm not looking for somebody who wants to be somebody else's dependent, So I like an independent person. I think I would have more in common with a with a widow. But you know, I think it would take a very special woman who's not a widow divorce a to accept the fact that if she were to date me seriously and get serious with me, she'd have to appreciate that I'm still in love with my late wife, because you don't. There's a big difference between being divorced and losing your spouse. But there are very you know, I'm sure there's a you know, very special women out there who are divorced who can appreciate that and still uh and respect that and honor it.

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Speaker 4: Are there any women from the Golden Bachelor that have caught your eye?

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Speaker 3: Yes, But I haven't had the opportunity yet to meet with them. I uh, that hasn't happened. As specific person I would would like to meet and talk with is Nancy. I'd like very much.

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Speaker 1: We like Nancy, Yeah, well I would.

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Speaker 3: She seems awfully nice. I didn't know very much about her until she actually appeared on a couple of the last episodes of our show as part of Joan's support network, and a very important part it was. And so I got a chance to see how you know, the kind of person she is. And in addition to being beautiful, she she impressed me with her her sensitivity to Joan and her supportive nature and and yeah, I mean she. I don't know what her marital status was, you know, coming into the show, I had no idea, but I'd like to learn more about her. And I haven't Nancy.

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Speaker 2: Nancy single, Nancy single, So you should.

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Speaker 4: You should reach out last time, last time we spoke, Nancy, she was single, she was dating, she was single.

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Speaker 3: Well, then we have that in common. I don't know, maybe you can fight. I don't know how to get in touch with her, but I was hoping the show would help facilitate that, but I haven't. That hasn't happened. Yet, So I'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: To ask Joan for her number.

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Speaker 3: That is a great idea.

00:20:33
Speaker 1: It's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: I will do that. Yeah, I will do that. I'll reach out to Joan. It's been awfully busy lately. I don't know how much time she has.

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Speaker 2: She has time. She loves being matchmaker.

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Speaker 4: I feel like she she's a good matchmaker and she likes to do it so well.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: If Nancy's not available, I feel like Joan could like be like, but I have this person or this person that you might like.

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Speaker 1: What are you What are your thoughts on Joe and Chock together?

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Speaker 3: I'm thrilled for both of them. Little. I got the impression early on when Chock came back from his Disneyland date with Joan, he very much seemed to be smitten with her, absolutely smitten with her at that point, and the fact that Joan chose him for the first one on one out of eighteen guys certainly said that there was a very strong attraction that she had for him or to him, and so I'm not the least bit surprised that those were the two left standing at the end, or one kneeling and one standing at the end, and so I'm thrilled for both of them, and I wish them all the best, and I hope they you know, when they do decide to have the wedding, that they'll invite some of the Mansion men to come as well.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any plans in the future to hang out with any of those guys?

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Speaker 3: Nothing specific, However, I am traveling and I'm in currently in the state of Florida, and two of the guys live here, and I've reached out to them. I actually talked to them about it at the Mentel Hall told him when I was going to be in Florida, and there's a good chance that at least one of them will be home, and I'm planning to go see them in January. So I'm going to be in Florida for another couple of months except for going back for Christmas with my kids in Seattle, so I'm definitely going to be seeing them. I'm hoping to see Mark as I cross As I drive cross country to California, I hope to stop and see Mark in Louisiana. And then when I get to California, there's like three or four guys in California that I hope to connect with. There's not a single one of these guys in from the mansion, Among the mansion men, there's not one of them that I wouldn't love to hang out with, go have dinner with, stay at their house if they let me. They're all just wonderful human beings.

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Speaker 4: So's so great. It's so nice that you guys all come out of this with a new community of people to connect with and hang out with. But thank you so much for coming on, Kim. It was so great to chat with you and meet you.

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Speaker 3: Very nice to meet both of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to.

00:23:20
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00:23:28
Speaker 1: Thanks and thank you, Kim. Bye, Jack, Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great. How about you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. So you're you're a Chicago guy, Huh?

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Speaker 5: I am. Actually I'm in northwest Indiana now, but born and.

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Speaker 6: Raised in Chicago, well part southeast side, as far east as you can go.

00:23:52
Speaker 1: I'm from Melrose Park.

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Speaker 5: Ah. We're the Italians. Yeah, well, the Italians hang out in Melrose.

00:23:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I saw you you were cooking some Italian Are you Italian?

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Speaker 5: I am Italian ZIONI yeah a little bit.

00:24:06
Speaker 1: Uh yes, I heard you were the cook in the house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Actually tonight I'm cheffing for one hundred and twenty women.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, yes, I'm doing a fancy menu.

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Speaker 6: I'm finishing it up with bananas foster and doing underlining medallions. I'm doing a butternut squash soup this start. Yeah, I'm doing a lot of stuff.

00:24:30
Speaker 1: So so you're so you're a cater. Did you ever own a restaurant?

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Speaker 5: I did. It was in the Lindwood, Illinois.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, what type of restaurant was it.

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Speaker 6: It was called Lencionis and it was kind of a bar with a mini casino, two hundred seat banquet room in the back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was. It was a heck of a joint.

00:24:53
Speaker 1: But let me tell you that that's a big operation.

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Speaker 2: Sounds a little like ken little a little bit.

00:25:01
Speaker 1: It's the restaurant business is not an easy one, right.

00:25:05
Speaker 5: Right right, That's why I got all them bags in my eyes.

00:25:09
Speaker 1: What how did you So how did you wind up on the Golden Bacherrett?

00:25:17
Speaker 6: You know, I had an ex girlfriend that actually sent me an application and then it was I forgot. I think it was long, and it was it was actually I filled it out one night when I had quite a few cocktails.

00:25:36
Speaker 4: That's the way to do it, that's the best way to apply a little tipsy was what's your cocktail of choice?

00:25:42
Speaker 6: Mine is an old Fashioned or Bourbon on the rocks, whichever one I decided that day.

00:25:48
Speaker 1: And what is your what is your goal? Like, if you're going to really impress a woman, what is the dish that you're making?

00:25:58
Speaker 5: The one I'm doing for this undred and twenty women tonight, I'm tenderloining medallions with a Bordelais sauce, asparagus with a Hollandaise sauce, and pipe garlic mashed potatoes.

00:26:11
Speaker 4: And if you're choosing where to eat, where are you going? Where does the chef eat?

00:26:16
Speaker 6: If I'm choosing where to go, I'm going to a place called Livio's.

00:26:21
Speaker 5: It's a small what do you call it?

00:26:23
Speaker 6: It's not a chain restaurant, It's a local restaurant that has phenomenal Italian food.

00:26:29
Speaker 1: What have you been to Lascarrola?

00:26:32
Speaker 5: I have right by my daughter's house. My daughter lives in the city.

00:26:36
Speaker 1: Okay, what did your daughter think about you going on? How many kids do you have?

00:26:40
Speaker 5: I have two children, my daughter Gina and my daughter Jamie.

00:26:43
Speaker 1: What did they howld are they.

00:26:47
Speaker 5: Twenty thirty eight, thirty eight and thirty five?

00:26:50
Speaker 1: What did they think about you going on the show?

00:26:53
Speaker 5: In the beginning, they didn't like it.

00:26:55
Speaker 6: It was because my ex wife didn't like it because she never knows what I was gonna say, you know. But uh, but after they realized that I got half a brain and that I was going to do this the right way, and and and I and they like, they love it now. Actually they came down for the men's tello. Yeah, it was cool.

00:27:20
Speaker 1: So going back to the house, just going back to your your first day, well, how familiar with How familiar were you with the Bachelor in general?

00:27:32
Speaker 5: Not at all?

00:27:35
Speaker 6: I mean I had never saw I saw it actually, and I told people listen, I almost apologized for it because I saw it for the first time about two weeks before I went there. So because they don't tell you right away that you're going, you know, so I ended up that.

00:27:55
Speaker 5: Was what I did.

00:27:57
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked. I would have assumed you didn't watch the show.

00:28:02
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm just not gonna lie. It's just you know a lot of people and is it Is it interesting now?

00:28:08
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:28:09
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's amazing now because there's a correlation between you know, the stuff that I did.

00:28:15
Speaker 2: Did your daughter's watch it before you went on?

00:28:19
Speaker 5: My Yes, yes, my my one daughter did the other daughter.

00:28:22
Speaker 1: Didn't you give you any advice?

00:28:29
Speaker 5: Yeah? Watch what you say, dad I have.

00:28:33
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I mean if my if my dad was going on, that's exactly what I would say. Watch watch what you say. Okay, So you step out of the limo that first uh, that first day, What's what's going through your head? What do you How do you feel about Joan?

00:28:55
Speaker 6: Because Joan was the most beautiful person and inside and out, and when I got out.

00:29:00
Speaker 5: Of the limo, all I wanted to do was impress her.

00:29:03
Speaker 6: And of course I sang coming out of the limo, which.

00:29:06
Speaker 5: Was a little different than you know, the other.

00:29:09
Speaker 6: People, and uh, actually not bad for you know, doing that acapella stuff and h coming out of the limo like that.

00:29:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, it actually I thought it came out as.

00:29:21
Speaker 1: You sounded good? You sound do do you sing like when you're catering? Do you do you go out there and sing a little Frank Sinatra?

00:29:28
Speaker 6: You know, I don't do it necessarily, kind of keep those two worlds separate, you know, because you know, the cooking is very whatever, and then the singing is kind of my fun thing to do.

00:29:41
Speaker 1: Now, did you have a meeting Joan? Did you have a connection with her?

00:29:46
Speaker 5: You know, we really didn't have a connection.

00:29:48
Speaker 6: And because of the fact that you know, you really don't get as much time in the beginning that you want with her, you know, and and so I'm.

00:29:59
Speaker 5: In that way. No, I did not. I didn't have time to.

00:30:03
Speaker 6: Impress her with my Uh, I don't know with anything.

00:30:07
Speaker 5: Well I did. I cooked the dinner, cooked nice, saying to her, so what the hell? Well, I mean, what else could you do? You know?

00:30:15
Speaker 1: What was that dinner? Was that a veal chop that you made? I don't remember.

00:30:18
Speaker 6: No, that was tenderline Medaian's. It was very similar to what I'm doing tonight. And then with the you know, with the bordelat sauce, it's, uh, you can't go wrong with that. If you don't like filet mignon with a little uh Bordelet sauce on it, a little asparagus.

00:30:32
Speaker 5: But Island days, it's you don't like.

00:30:34
Speaker 2: Anything sounds really good. It's making me hungry.

00:30:37
Speaker 1: Well, I'm actually starting. What was the battle? What was the battle on the grill between the burgers? Chris?

00:30:44
Speaker 2: Chris barbecue sauce.

00:30:46
Speaker 5: A nice guy. I'm sorry I interrupted you.

00:30:49
Speaker 4: No, No, I was just saying he put barbecue sauce on the burgers?

00:30:52
Speaker 2: Or what did he put the.

00:30:53
Speaker 5: Barbecue sauce on the burgers?

00:30:55
Speaker 6: And putting barbecue sauce on the burgers if you put it on one is okay maybe, but not on all of them because nobody's gonna eat them.

00:31:03
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just but that's my opinion.

00:31:06
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

00:31:08
Speaker 4: I mean it is a bold move to throw roque sauce on every single burger.

00:31:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, but doesn't a lot of that get burnt off on the fire?

00:31:16
Speaker 5: No? No, because they he put it on like cheese, like at the end, you know where you're not flipping it around and everything.

00:31:23
Speaker 1: So what was your favorite part about living with all these guys? And you're in your least favorite part.

00:31:30
Speaker 6: The camaraderie, the ability to meet these guys at this age and have this whole separate group of friends. And these guys they text every day and they you know, a couple of the guys I talked to twice a week, and yeah, I mean it just was a great, great time meeting them and the whole thing.

00:31:52
Speaker 5: I mean, you're you.

00:31:53
Speaker 6: Know, you got the mansion, you got the pool, you got cannon balls, it was all beautiful.

00:31:59
Speaker 1: What was it like seeing everyone you attended the mental hall and after the rows? What was that like?

00:32:06
Speaker 5: Oh, it's comical.

00:32:08
Speaker 6: I mean Charles was my roommate in my what do you call it dressing room?

00:32:14
Speaker 5: And I says, it's the first thing I go. And I said, Charles, what did you do to your head?

00:32:19
Speaker 3: You know?

00:32:19
Speaker 5: And he and he said, you like Jack. It was it was great. It was great to see Charles. It was great to see all the guys.

00:32:30
Speaker 1: Have you connected with any of the Chicago guys that have lived in the city.

00:32:35
Speaker 6: You know, Pastel invited me for dinner last week. It just didn't work out. And Jordan's Michael, I you know, I talked to back and forth as far as texts, and that's so we're supposed to get together in Chicago.

00:32:49
Speaker 4: Yes, are you doing anything for the holidays? Pardon me, are you doing anything for the holidays?

00:32:56
Speaker 5: No, I'm going to enjoy my family.

00:32:58
Speaker 6: I had, you know, I had my grandkids, my daughter, my ex, my everybody over for Thanksgiving.

00:33:05
Speaker 5: And it was a beautiful thing.

00:33:06
Speaker 6: It was you know that they came in about eleven in the morning and then they left at about eight o'clock at night, and it's great.

00:33:14
Speaker 1: How does your ex feel now about the show? Is she she okay with it?

00:33:18
Speaker 5: Now? After it's done, She's all good.

00:33:20
Speaker 6: She is a great lady, and she's just she's she's fine with it now now, not before.

00:33:27
Speaker 5: Now.

00:33:28
Speaker 4: Wait, you said your ex sent you the application. It wasn't your ex wife though it was an extra friend.

00:33:34
Speaker 5: It was an ex girlfriend. I'm sorry.

00:33:36
Speaker 4: Okay, how did that conversation go. Did she just say, hey, I think you should sign up. I think you'd be great for this, right.

00:33:42
Speaker 6: Just about exactly what she said, you know what she said, I think you'd be great for this. You know, fill this out, you know, And and so I says.

00:33:50
Speaker 5: Okay, And then I didn't fill it out. And then one day I.

00:33:52
Speaker 6: Think it was I don't know, snowing or something, and I was at Libio's having a bourbon imagine that, and then I just build it out, you know.

00:34:02
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, So what is what? What is dating life like for you?

00:34:07
Speaker 5: Now? Comical? I mean it's it's wonderful, you know.

00:34:14
Speaker 6: I there's this really nice, beautiful lady named Kathy that that I am dating a little bit, but not you know, I mean, she lives in Florida.

00:34:24
Speaker 5: I live here.

00:34:25
Speaker 6: She actually was a fan of the show and sent me something, you know, and I don't answer all them things. In fact, I don't understand how to answer all them things. Uh my daughter tells me if I got different things because she kind of.

00:34:40
Speaker 5: My accounts because I don't know nothing about that stuff.

00:34:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's okay though, that's fine. Are you so like when you like tonight you're catering a big party? Do these people? Will these women know who you are? From the show?

00:34:57
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, they're they're uh yeah, definitely.

00:35:01
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a thing.

00:35:04
Speaker 6: I gotta do.

00:35:04
Speaker 5: Tell you the funny story. So you know Chicago a little bit, you know where Hensdale's at.

00:35:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, she got a lot of it. I grew up in Chica. I mean I was born and raised, you know. Yeah, no, no, no.

00:35:19
Speaker 6: So I'm in Hensdale walking down the street with this girl on my first date with her, and all of a sudden, this woman comes running out of the store like frantically, and she yells, you're.

00:35:31
Speaker 5: Jack from the Golden Bench, your.

00:35:33
Speaker 6: Jack, and I yes, yes, I am. He you know, I mean, you just don't know how to answer the stuff. But like two minutes later, a guy pulls over in downtown, you know, Hensdale, and he goes, hey, you're Jack from the gold Man.

00:35:49
Speaker 5: I'm thinking of this is gonna be a weird date.

00:35:51
Speaker 6: I don't know how good hand, But after they had calmed down, it was all good.

00:35:57
Speaker 5: Nice.

00:35:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it does not wrong with that. She probably she might have liked that, you know.

00:36:01
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think in some ways she might hit, But in some ways she's kind of yeah, yeah.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: Are you are you familiar with Oh, you're dating you're kind of dating somebody? Were there any other women from the Golden Bachelor that you were interested in?

00:36:19
Speaker 6: Chris, Christina is very nice lady. And you know, there's and and Susan. I've talked to back and forth. You know, she's a very busy woman, that Susan. I mean, she's got she got a lot of stuff going on and and uh, but she's a super nice lady, very intelligent and a lot of very charming she is.

00:36:41
Speaker 4: I wanna I want to go over to her house. I hear she's a really good cook too. You guys should get together.

00:36:45
Speaker 1: Who do you think about her cook?

00:36:48
Speaker 6: Well, you know, you got to remember I cooked for thousands then, and you know I'd have to add it up one time to find how many, you know, because for forty years I had a thousand cee bank with a hall and then oh no, that was actually for only twenty eight years, but then I had the restaurant and we had all these other banket all. So yeah, so I cooked for quite a bit and done quite a bit of different things.

00:37:15
Speaker 1: Who'd you get your produce from?

00:37:19
Speaker 6: Back in the day it was called Baker produce and Zanstra produce. But besides that, I got it from Conal's Foods, which.

00:37:26
Speaker 5: Is another you know, like a Gordon food service type thing. Got it.

00:37:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to be in the produce business.

00:37:33
Speaker 5: I used to work at the Oh you were in a produce it worked on the water market.

00:37:37
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Have you have you ever been down there?

00:37:41
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, back in the day, we used to go there, you know, I mean like forty fifty years ago. That was what you did. You went down and got the best deal.

00:37:50
Speaker 1: Yeah. What what are some of yours? What's your favorite memory from your time on the show?

00:38:00
Speaker 5: Again? Uh, you know, meeting Joan was really cool.

00:38:04
Speaker 6: Uh, the times with the guys in the pool we were, you know, having tottails and and bus and and uh, you know.

00:38:14
Speaker 5: The home mansion was. I enjoyed every bit of it.

00:38:18
Speaker 6: The only part that I didn't like, and I've said this before, is that you know, they you got the bunk beds, and I'm kind of clusted the phobic. So the top bunk no good and the bottom bunk no good because you see the top bunk, and so I kind of slept downstairs. And the funny part about that is because the first night I went and I said, Hey, I'm going to go sleep outside, and one of the guys said that's fine, but there's a lot of tarantula's out there. And I slammed the door and I, okay, where can I sleep? And so we found a couch for me.

00:38:51
Speaker 4: We saw that you obviously you were at the metal all but you also were at the after the final rows for the finale.

00:38:58
Speaker 2: What did you think of that? And how do you feel about Joan and Chock?

00:39:03
Speaker 6: I from the day one, I said that Joan and Chock where Chock was going to be the winner because and not to take anything away from me or any of the other guys, but he was just he had a lot in common with her. He was a super nice guy. He's good looking, son of a gun. I mean he I just.

00:39:25
Speaker 5: Thought Chock was was the guy for the for the to win.

00:39:31
Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:39:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of a lot of guys feel that way.

00:39:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, we heard there was a party after the finale. Did you go, oh yeah, how was it?

00:39:39
Speaker 5: That party?

00:39:40
Speaker 6: That was like do you know what you know, back when Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin or whatever used to go to a Hollywood party, That's what that party was like. I mean there was just like everybody's all over with you know, Butler Style or Dervs.

00:39:57
Speaker 5: Martinez, Manhattan is anything you wanted? You guy?

00:40:00
Speaker 6: There it was and and it was and I again, it was very comical.

00:40:06
Speaker 5: They were like people wanted to talk to me there, and I'm thinking to myself, I'm like a little Mickey Mouse in comparison to these people. I says, but you know, it was a ball and the place was gorgeous.

00:40:18
Speaker 1: I mean, you were You weren't on the show for that long, but you were a very When you were on the show, you were one of the main main focus points.

00:40:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, people were surprised that you went home so early. People weren't expecting that. We weren't expecting that either.

00:40:32
Speaker 5: You know. I wasn't expecting either, to tell you surprise, And you know, I just figured that I might have, you know, because when you.

00:40:40
Speaker 6: Kind of act like I do, some people like it and some people don't, you know. So I'm thinking maybe there was a guy that you know, or whoever's making a decision, because I really don't think Joan.

00:40:54
Speaker 5: Wanted to get rid of me then early. But who knows?

00:40:59
Speaker 1: What was it you saw al this his last concert?

00:41:04
Speaker 6: Huh May second, nineteen seven, May second, nineteen seventy seven.

00:41:08
Speaker 5: I was in the front row, was it?

00:41:11
Speaker 1: Where was in Vegas?

00:41:13
Speaker 5: No? In Chicago at the Amphitheater, uh Antitheater? Yeah? Anyway, So yeah, I was in the front row.

00:41:21
Speaker 6: And it was so funny because Alvis, you know, he was always throwing scarves out and everything.

00:41:27
Speaker 5: So he threw a.

00:41:27
Speaker 6: Scarf out and I got it, and this guy behind next to me, my buddy, uh Cuba, he gave him a pick. Well, there was some excuse me chicks and behind us that wanted to pick and the scarves. Well, he gave him the pick and he said, give him the scy I said, giving him the scarves.

00:41:47
Speaker 5: Scar's staying with me. So I still have this scar.

00:41:50
Speaker 1: You still have it?

00:41:51
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, wow?

00:41:52
Speaker 1: What do you think that's? Why do you think it's worth anything?

00:41:55
Speaker 2: Definitely don't know.

00:41:56
Speaker 6: I mean how could they tell. I mean, it's not like he had his name on it or anything. I guess they could do the DNA thing or whatever. But you know, it's been god May Sex seventy seven, it's got to be almost fifty years.

00:42:07
Speaker 1: Yeah. What brand is the scarf? Just a regular pardon? What brand is the scarf? Is there anything?

00:42:15
Speaker 5: You know? I've never I don't even know if there's a brand on there BG you know.

00:42:19
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:42:20
Speaker 4: Wow, So you're hosting a dinner party tonight. Do you think you'll ever fully officially retire and stop working.

00:42:28
Speaker 5: You know, some people ask me and they said, what are you doing it?

00:42:31
Speaker 6: And I go, because, you know what, doing it once in a blue moon is fine. Doing it every day I'm under pressure. And that's why I sold the restaurant, because you know, every day I was starting to think we were a very busy restaurant, and I thought, you know, I was under pressure.

00:42:48
Speaker 5: All that.

00:42:48
Speaker 6: I said, I ain't going to drop dead and never get to spend that money I made. So that's why I ended up quitting. But doing it once in a while, I sure I enjoy it. Tonight's going to be a ball.

00:43:00
Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, What are you any plans for Christmas?

00:43:05
Speaker 5: Christmas? Even my kids will come here and then.

00:43:12
Speaker 6: On Christmas Day. I'm not sure why I have thought that fire ahead yet. Yeah, because I'm leaving for Florida on the third of January. And then I take my car and hear my sub and then dragged there with my bicycle and golf gloves everything, and then I stay a couple of months in Florida.

00:43:33
Speaker 1: Nice, that's nice. What part of Florida.

00:43:36
Speaker 6: I'm in Treasure Island for a month and then Marco Island for another month.

00:43:41
Speaker 1: Nice. Good for you well, Jack, thank you, thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy day and hopping on Betry Happy Hour and talking to us.

00:43:51
Speaker 6: It was a great talking to both, to you and you have a great Christmas.

00:43:56
Speaker 5: Merry Christmas to Bobia.

00:43:57
Speaker 1: Thank you you as well to all our listeners, make sure you tune in the Betch your Happy Hour and download and subscribe.

00:44:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have more episodes coming your way. Thanks for listening. Bye.