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what's happening, baby man? Listen man, you know we aerated
arl hornets are heart. You don't know if you know, man,
And it's a lot of love.
We locked Jess some crazy yes, sir, we here and
we all said Jack.
Respect.
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all your niggas. See I look at ground and say,
you know what Grinn is. He's a blend. He's light
enough to stay on the town. I just always get
rid of all the dark skinned niggas. Man, God, Man,
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through and through to.
That. I feel the love right now. I ain't no
love still to my right my dog, young natural young.
Tig you hip man, got my young boy in here.
You know, the biggest hornings fans, Chef t excited to
have my dog list man, Charlotte Horners in the building.
Man also underrated sec career. We're gonna talk about that
for show Man. Yeah, let's yeah.
That's what. That's what the numbers came in.
I would say nowadays, you know, figure it out, show.
Man, Listen man, Charlotte is for it, Man, great was
in the building, big dog. Appreciate you sliding on this. Man,
appreciate you haven't man like.
You said the order store. Before we get to your orders, Man,
let's talk about how y'all linked up for the first time. Man.
I let him go first, and I can tell the one.
Thing I remember the most is that he's the most
probably my funniest, if not second funniest teammate I've ever
played with, because we played on a team where it
was a year that I think we were. We were
up and down that year, like the beginning of COVID.
COVID like it was going on. There was no such
thing as like, man, there was no such thing as
anything going on. Stands like all we could do is
freaking kicking a k walks and just vibe. Yeah, And
that's how you know the Celtics back then.
It was.
It was an interesting also, me and Jet always think
about the store.
One of the best stories I got is that I
remember I was both going to Brad and be like, hey, man,
just don't play us, because like we had me, him,
Shimmy and Peyton Pritchard and Brad was just like Kimber
just came back and Brad was trying to figure out
like what lineups, and you know, Brad wasn't the type
of person to like like ever confront nobody, trying of
like let it happen, you know, and coaches handle. So
like it got to a point where we were just
every every single thing we do, we have to look
over our shoulder. We're like, all right, just choose one.
Lets like one person go and see what happens. And
I remember me and Jet was just like, yo, just
let choose them, because.
Bro, you so young. I hate the old head with
no knees.
You we're trying to into the leag I don't sacrifice
your play off.
Here is what happened was like I had just played
that last year and we went to the playoffs, coming finals,
all this stuff in the bubble. So I came in
on some bs like I was. I was tripping that
year coming to preseason. Kind of felt like I had
established my stuff, so then I kind of had to
earn it back. So I was like, let me just
hoop and stay ready, like let me show y'all what
I got, you know, go back and forth. I was
crazy back then too, so I was wild. And Chris
and coaches out everything.
Everybody was wild. It was a bad year. It was
a bad year.
So like I was just telling him, I was like, yo,
like just choose, let shod me play because Shamy looking
over his shoulder every shot he missed me. And like
at the time, they didn't tell me this til after,
but they were like they were trying to play shemy
so they can trade them, Like they just don't they
communicate that type of stuff, Like the thing came from us.
We were like, yo, like it's killing us all. And
then you had your bar on the bench.
It was like, hey, just bage your time, young fellas.
By the time, it was.
Crazy man, heal order story. Man, Let's get to yours though. Man,
obviously from Texas, move to Carolina. Excuse me, North Carolina?
What's the light? Playing for the Hornets? Man?
And growing up as a Carolina kid.
It's great because I grew up like I'm from Charlotte too.
Like it's like I grew up watching Kywalk and the.
Bobcats and d J Augustine and jer Anderson, Cory mcghetty,
Tory's Jersey's Nasty.
Seven seven Wins.
So like I got friends, like we remember bringing back
the buzz back in what was it twenty sixteen when
the Hornets even came back.
Yeah, Like it's cool to.
Be on the roster and like impact winning to a
point where like you got a chance to want to
make the playoffs, to be on a team that, like Sean,
ain't never seen the type of success that we've had yet,
like we, I think, other than nineteen ninety eight, and
that's before any of us.
When I was born.
So damn, yeah, make your niggas feel old, but facts then, So, yeah,
we got nine nine winning, nine game winning streak, like
winning the most games on the road. So every friend
that I know growing up in the city is like, yo,
they're hype. Yeah, we got more fans in the arena
than I think I've seen growing up. So there's a
place to be around right now. It's a gold mine waiting.
To be struck. I always said in Charlotte.
So it said that two years ago, even when I
was talking crap to d White, trying to tell him
he was making the playoffs two years ago.
Just saying it happened, yeah, but but now we got
actual chance.
So y'all doing really good, bro, don't really believe in y'all,
but me and DJ are always at BRO. How do
you feel about like LaMelo not making the all story, Bro,
I'm a.
Little sick just because, like his stats might not show it,
just because you know it's in the like, like I
feel like he's not making like all the shots right
now to the point where like his stats are like
forty from three something like that. But like our offense
runs through and with him, like we see our on
off numbers with him in the court, he impacts are
winning to a level that you know, it's hard to
hard to compare anyone across the league, like in terms
of playmaking, Like he's guy that sets up our entire roster,
like Brandon thinks are leading score right now for a reason.
Uh Con is able to get the shots. He's able
to because like Mellow creates that gravity getting downhill, kicking
out shooters and we just played fast man like shoot
a lot of threes and Mellow honestly deserve I think
that all start not because they put it's just the
format this year man the US world like they could
do it.
I love that you might get a job when you do.
More upset than.
Especially with how we were playing towards the All Star break, like,
I know we didn't start great, like we were four
or fourteen, but we were injured.
Like there's a lot of things going on.
Like once we got a healthy roster, you start seeing
the success of our team and like, yeah, that was
so well put together.
Honestly by JP did.
A great Peterson Yeah, yeah, got.
The job of you know, building the building a group
around one another. So I think Dip had a great
job of like making that all start nine. I think
next year we don't have two maybe three All Stars,
depending on how we start the season.
Especially with came on like game Busters. Bro he nice
Jeff look and we think, but Jeff.
I think he's Rookie of the Year. It's my vote.
All this saying from the.
Beginning of the league is going to be in the
co Rookie of the Year.
I hope so he deserves.
It's gonna be and uh Grant Hill type, you know.
Like, yeah, they think it's gonna be. I think though,
you think it's gonna Bro think Hooper gon win Way like.
He's bro he is damn near a fifty forty ninety season,
crazy but one of the efficient, most efficient rookie season.
I think NBA history already broke the single season rookie record.
Yeah, he's crazy like fast two hundred three or sorry,
maybe hasn't broken it, He's about to break it. And
then fastest rookie to two hundred three, fast player to
two hundred threes exactly. It's just it's in Washington, played
basketball like there's not many guys that.
You play with your like, yo, every shot you feel
is going in, Like he's on that level already.
He's little kid.
And it's funny because that draft last year, they questioned
the VJ pick. They kind of was just like maybe
a little bit hot, but both of them players have
showed that nah they ready to hoop for sure?
You super well, yeah, that's one of my favorite players
in the league.
May just so fishing that I had that draft day
thing when he had his workout. You know remember the
movie where it's like Vonte mc no matter what to
our assistant GM right during his workout, Vonte mac no
matter what. Because I felt like it was either between
him or VJ at that pick. Philly didn't pick just
get one of the other. I picked a good pick. No,
be here, LaMelo my top five all time already we are. Yeah,
I love them. Basketball needs a mellow ball bro players
like that, like it's a creative, creative mind, like they
play fast loose. Paulse he just uh, he just has
a he has a good feel for the game. Like
there's not many people like that see ahead like he does.
So he does a good job playing teammates in positions
to be successful. And I think he honestly compliments every
single person on the roster.
He got now, yeah, you got it all.
Yeah, I'll be texting you know, I got a little
more to show over there.
Sometimes the hell of a breakdown for sure. Great man.
Let's like you said, Carolina, y'all a you team boy?
That t C three squad.
J oh yeah, my daughter j had squiddy.
Harry Giles, we talked about him early in the morning,
so I know injuries kind of changed his stecting with
if you saw Harry girls in high school here g
ones brog.
Was the best player in the class for a reason.
He was over j T. He was Jonzo, he was
over Josh Jackson was consistous number one. But u HG.
Like if you have his knee surgeries, like it's hard
to imagine he wouldn't be a christ whatever type of
player like he was special played with and then also
like just to watch I play against him because he
played in Wesleyan back in high school, said that I
was my like I played against him and Bam, those were.
My my Matthews high school. So like playing those guys,
did you give them work?
Yeah?
Be Bam in the state championship, blet him by by twenty.
I always joke with Bam, this is where messed me up.
My rookie year, said, man, you haven't beat me much.
Beat him in Tennessee, beat him at beating him in
high school grades always called me BAM's kryptonite. And then
that rookie year playing in the bubble, I think I
think I had a record where I was like two
or three games ahead of him. And after they beat
us in the bubble for the for go to the finals,
he said, think him up now.
Shot back, got get back and saying ship nowadays too
be me even the last the last finals run too.
Damn.
We're gonna talk about that, man. But now what was
that like though? Did you face any other crazy teams?
Because I had a squad and you they had a.
Crazy My gosh ro wise. I was like, honestly, I
don't think. I don't know if I started on that team.
I think I was behind Q sometimes because we had
that team was loaded.
Yeah.
Sure.
Alter Gilbert, who was the top five star point guard
at the time, he just had surgery, so he was hurt.
He's from from the A so he was nice. Josha
Kogie got jo Darnold Rogers, the five foot three, remember
four point guard.
Remember, so like they got buckets though, is he's the
reason why they.
Be Virginia So so then they hg myself, Q and
peace Jam stories.
We were playing Georgia Stars.
We only had one loss at in TI EUYBL season,
so like we were one of the most accomplished EUYBL
teams whatever else there was. We lost to Georgia Stars
by one. Nat Udoka, Wendell Carter, Bruce Brown, Jared Harper,
like a bunch of names. Peace Jam happens. We go,
We don't lose a game. We beat Mo Cann with
Jonathan Isaac, We beat each each one Tea Jonathan Isaac,
mocam of Trey and Michael Porter. Yeah, then we get
to that semi final. We played j T in the
Eagles Saint Louis. That was back before Brad bil Elite
and we were blowing them out. We were about like
twenty like damn near going to the third fourth quarter.
All of a sudden, altered gets cramps and he's driven
the bough up the court, camp past half court, fell
over like type cramps. Like he was just turned. We
turned it over I think six straight times. They get
back into the game.
M I couldn't driven.
Was coaching though, John Wayne.
Didn't want to take him out because I think I
don't know why Darnella ain't play, but like it was
just one of those games where he was like, we're
leave him out there. He like give them some pickle
juice whatever else, like try and let him hook because
we're up by so much.
Peterson, yeah, I was.
He's a five star recruit. Was in foul trouble that
game too, I remember, because I was. I think I
was either our first or second lead to score in
that game. And what's it called?
Going down? Turn it over? Turn over? Turn over, turnover?
Like they get back into the game J T J
T hoop And of course and we get to the
end of the game, I score, they come back score
come down.
Ag gets the ball his shooter.
He told him, don't shoot it until we have our
last shot because we win the game. And she goes
too soon, hits the hook, right hand hook or I
think left hand, whatever's hook. We think we about to
win the game. They call time out. I get subbed
at out. They put Ian boyd in. We're all on the bench,
elbow to elbow like we're about to win this game,
up to go to go to the final to play
Georgia Stars again. All of a sudden, they inbound the ball.
We took j t away. I don't forget to do
his name, Jordan Gilbert Jordan' something was the full court
double clutch at the buzzer heave game.
Damn. So that was that story.
They ended up freaking losing by thirty to Georgia Stars.
After that, we were so checked out the rest of
the season with the Vegas and we was just having
a good.
Times at seventeen years old. That ain't bad foot all right, man,
conversation good.
We have some drinks from Barbie Works tonight, man, I
lost some pod. I want are we having a name?
I'm good about you.
Quarter three My boy locked from the corner three. Hey
go hold you okay, appreciate your corner three? Right on
b She's allum, guests here, the guests here, corner three?
All right, man obviously killed a high school, went to
Tennessee with some other schools that could have got you.
Tennessee was the best call I had.
I was a three star, like I was thinking, I
was number two hundred and something.
Last Yeah it was bad. I was.
I was chunky bro I was you know, undersized, big tweeter.
So like this is like this is right around when
Draymond was doing his thing.
But like like I like, people are always like, how
do you beat these guys?
I was being bammed.
I was being like Harry, like all these guys that
are like bran higher than me, but they're like this
dude can't jump, like not really a great shooter, you know,
he's post player. And so I remember even Davison, like
I remember call him coach McKillop. He said, I'm not
never gonna give you a scholarship offer. I said, why damn?
He said, because you don't work hard enough. That was
me as a sophomore's year. I was like, I can't
get off by Davison, like I had my best office
with Charlotte, Like I have that for sure. Later on,
I'll give him credit. Later on, when I went to Tennessee,
we play him. He's like, the reason why I said
that to you is because I needed you to work
harder and like I believed in you and.
We'd have the resources to support you or something that.
But like I think he was just, yeah, that motivates you.
Though for sure he said motivated he is.
You know, I grew up in the family that of
hoopers quote unquote, like my cousin's slim start Tom, who
was nice zoning that first.
Hey forgot god really one of the hes, the best
shooter in college of them.
The college old college, all the.
He shot better than JJ Riddick that year. And they
didn't want to give me a little That nigga had
a burner.
Yeah, it was a big jersey, big short one.
Yeah. I did work out with him. Yeah, and he
only do perfect, perfect, perfect. You'll be in the gym
for two.
Explain that for the people we're not to tap in
ever hit the room or if you don't switch every time,
he don't count it.
I would be any person that as a young kid.
You throw them the ball.
You can't jam up like as a shooter, Like he
was like throw it outside my body.
Like it was like his workouts back in the day.
I am be amazed by.
Him, bro. He was We did a workout with him, bro.
He was he was playing for the Hawks, well he
used to, and he was back in the gym and
he was like, you're gonna do the workout with us?
Like yeah, we started to work out. He's like, don't count.
Shot another one, don't count. It's like ship that should
count for me. Then he kept saying, no, we only
count of the switch.
Bro.
He was in the gym for two hours. Bro. I
was like I'm out, damn bro'. But he was hitting
every shot don't come Like that's crazy.
So slim even damon. So it was like that's my
other cousin. And it's like those guys like my pop
played Venezuela but like tried to play for the Houston
Bullets and those guys back in the day. So like
this grew up in that family. So like everybody used
to always trying to be like you gotta score. This
was like all right, like I'm over passer.
You know.
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I had offers from like Yale, like Yale, Princeton.
All the ibs. You've always been a smart one.
So it really came down to those, and then Richmond
was the only other one. Then I decided on Tennessee
because I met our strength coach Garant made of Walt.
He was like, I can change your body composition, make
you like best, give you the best chance to make
in the league. And I was like all right, like
that was my main focus. And then I told my
moms because my mom worked for NASA, she of course
black that's crazy. Yeah, black Man wont wanted me to
go to IVY leagues because she knows how the world
of board works. And so I'm telling her. I was like,
I'm going to Tennessee. She ain't talked to me like
a month and a half, two months, but then I
told her. I said, I'm a graduating in three years,
which then I'm an, if I go back for my
fourth year, I'll get my master's. Like I had this
plan that I set out and I told her, I said,
but also, I'm gonna go for the MBA.
Yeah, did what I said when three years, got my degree? Yeah,
got freaking later year twice Layer of the Year year,
two times SEC Player the Year. Like what made you
not lead the first year because you wanted to graduate?
So no, first year I wasn't.
So I was only freshman team because Malik Monk, I
think one Freshman of the Year and coach Barnes was like, hey,
like cause Barnes, if you know coach Barnes, he kind
of wants his guys to come back. And also like
he if he thinks you should go, he'll try and
tell you to go. So he said, like the reason
why you ain't with freshman year because he didn't work
hard enough. So it was the same thing, like he
didn't work hard enough. Went back that second year and
I was like all right, like my goals to get
Player of the year. And also like coach Barn's like
that's you should be. You should strive for player the year.
You should strive to be the best player in this conference.
So that whole year, though, I played with an injury.
So that whole year I had like a pureformists like
Syac nerve thing that I was dealing with that shot
down my leg. So played that whole season even after
the year was over, was dealing with it, like that
numbness of my leg, couldn't like walk sometimes. Like there
was a couple of games that season, like remember the
LSU game, I get foult in the first half, I
landed on my back, couldn't fill my leg and got
subbed out. Worked on it for full half came back
in that second half and played. So then after that season,
I was like, damn, I probably should go. But if
I go test a draft process right now and I'm
looking crazy, it was good, like you look damaged goods
and then now you have reputation. So I just stayed
in school and then went back for that third year
and then came out that third even though because Barnes
wanted to come back for the fourth.
He was well, yeah, yeah, because it was like playing
for a legendary coach like that. I know, there's a
lot of expectations from especially in the college world.
Yeah, Barnes is crazy, but he's one of the He's
cool for sure. You has any player that played for
Barnes k like especially like PJ KD, any of those guys,
they'll tell you like I got saved Barnes, like Barnes
was like not cursing like he I got, like always
taking my biggest accomplishment for Barnes and making him curse
twice at me. But like he was completely different, like
he was crazy, Like he made me like I remember
just multiple times on crying tears, workouts like running, he
make you mid over practice, go versus climber three times,
come back in practice every time you mess up and
go back to the versus climber, come back, run to
seventeen another seventeen eighty five, two seventeen, like he thought
it was a game. So like it was to a
point where like you had to be so mentally tough
for him, playing for him.
If not you, yeah, go, I go a lot bersa
climb in two times. I'm in the portal coach second year, bro.
That's what it was thinking about it. After my freshman
year we didn't make the we didn't make the postseason.
He had us do a basket track season. We didn't
touch a basketball spring.
Dang all.
We would wake up, come down the hill and we'd run.
Was it like that when you went to college? Like
when you your first summer with him?
It was bad, like you know, like I was.
I had to get your funny right.
I was in fat camp, like watch fat camp, like
legit fat camp. So we had to work out that
morning six am, come in, do a whole workout, then
go to class, come back for practice, and do a
workout post practice til I got him a certain weight.
I lost thirty pounds in my first month.
And a half being there a bunch of you when
you went to school, like two, I was like to eighty.
And I lost weight, so like I can ever come in.
I was like, yeah, I'm great. Gee, I'm probably thirteen
percent body fat.
Like I feel great.
All of a sudden I get there, it's like, nah,
you're seventeen percent body fat. Dog you about two fifty five.
End up getting the two twenty five by the end
of that summer.
Man, that's crazy.
Yeah, I ain't bad boy.
What I'm saying.
So that's the hell of a life to live.
Boy.
Yeah, it's not fun.
I'll be saying college basketball selling traumatic as shit. Listen,
this is all stuff that I can talk about now
because it's overwhet. But like even like like we.
Got to a point we had five AMS and we
had one dude breakout in the hives during the workout,
and then we had to cancel it. So it got
rid of five AMS, and that was Quake Parker, so
he passed out. We had to wake them up to
continue to work out like it was. Then lockdown happens
because five ams getaway. Lockdown was every Saturday. If you
had late the class or whatever else. It was you're
in trouble. Six am to ten pm. You had to
be in the gym. No devices, damn. So you was
there working out? You have five workouts? You really are
just there reading like.
You got did you say at the time? Right?
Yeah?
He says six a name the.
Ten pm come out on a Saturday portal.
He can't do that no more.
No snitch, somebody snitch that gout went away and were
back five a m.
We had.
It was some wild times. But I always tell these guys,
you got different, big boy. He got working.
No devices, no phone, no iPad, no laptop.
No I hate it here.
How much working out?
The mother figure aways playing was though, amro Schofield?
Like that was real bookmaking My.
Saray up like that ain't no such thing as going
out that night?
Oh yeah he was.
You was still after doing that?
Oh yeah it was. I probably had the energy after that.
I'm doing that. I've probably been ready for that all day.
We had so many times where guys being the lockout together,
lockdown together, so like eight dudes in lockdown just vibbing.
We locked up.
Ill probably be ready to hang something.
That's obviously man. I had a great career A tendency.
Now it's time for the draft. What was that process
like for you man, making that decision the family just
that summer.
Yeah, so went to the draft, said I was declaring.
Called coach Bornes from Chicago after combine. I was like, yeah,
I'm not coming back. I had like a decent conversation
and came down to the workouts. My whole thing about
the workouts was I want to chase the guys who
were projected above me. So I was like, you know what,
like Brandon Clark, like PJ Washington, like all these guys,
these names, they're considered like people are like this guy's old,
this guy's mean, while I'm saying a major's all these
guys because I was young. I remember Rick Carlisle there
my meeting with Dallas. They were like, how do it
feel being one of the older players in the class.
I said, actually, I'm like younger than every junior as sophomore,
and probably closer to younger and most freshman. He cursed everybody,
you know, Carlisle is He went crazy. But even the
draft process, I was doing the workouts, chasing those guys around,
I'm thinking, like, yo, I'm killing So I'm a I'm gonna.
Definitely go top fifteen, top twenty.
Meanwhile, I just realized I brought everybody's drafting value down
with me, Like everybody came down to my area, like
Brandon Clark was supposed to be top twenty one right
in front of me. During that process, I was like,
there's only one chance I can go on the top
like twenty, and I'd be Orlando at sixteen. And they
were like, we have between you, nikiel who went next,
and then a mystery guy. That mystery guyed being Chumki
just came off the ACL that year who was nice
at least in college, and yep, yeah yeah. And then
I was like, okay, not going to Brooklyn. One of
my worst workouts that I've had in my life. Then
I was like, okay, san Antonio, but they won't draft
me at twenty. If they draft me, it'll be at
twenty nine. So then Luca went Boston. I knew they
were trading twenty, so I was like, I'm not going there.
And then twenty one it was between either Okay see Memphis,
like they had to trade Okay, see, I would have went,
but then they traded the pick to Memphis.
They took Brandon Clark.
So I was like, all right, cool, So, like I'm
not going to Boston because I'm you know the Boston
story about my workout.
Right, no, no know, yeah, yeah, thank you Boston workout.
So I'm over here like of course, smart kid, I'm
in the workout. Air Pascal, me, Brandon Clark and we're
over here. Jay larrenegas the coach.
Yeah.
Jay.
Tony Dobbins was a video coordinator at the time. Yeah,
So Tony's leading the workout. We get to this four
and four, five and five session, Tony's like at the clipboard.
He's like, yeah, like thing about to play the draw
up and he drew up the play and he had
Brandon Clark in the corner and me on a dunker.
I was like, yo, like I kind of touched the clipbo.
I was like you sure you want me and the dunker?
Like you rather have the guy with the lob threat
the dunker and me in the corner because I can
shoot it. He's like, you're right, You're right. So I
took the clipboard, raised it and then so then boom
that happens.
Play work.
I'm feeling good, you know, I'm confident next next thing
happens where the like play happens. They're like, all right, cool,
Like they're switching everything now, like like we need to play.
Tony's kind of holding the clipboard he's thinking about the play.
I'm like, I got it. He's wow, grabbing clipboard from
like drop a play thing is going to be like
this is what we gonna do. It ain't work. So
then after that, I'm like, all right, cool. I spream
anchor during the workout. Workout happens three minutes, three minutes.
Run at the end as Boston does, Danny does, and
they're like, you don't have to run, you don't have
to run.
I'm like, nah that I'm running. Ended up running.
It got in first with me and kazy Pola got
him first, and I think that's the only reason I
got drafted there because Jay afterwards he always always joked
that he cursed me out. He did and cursed me out,
but he pulled me aside. I was like, we don't
do that here, Like you don't take the clipboard out
of coach's hands. He's not heard that the years prior
Kyrie had done at the BRAD, So I was like,
oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Can't be doing that. Especially this is.
Back when I play Tennessee because Barnes. Because Barnes was
very like, like, I definitely did that a lot. I
did a couple of times at Barns, and like I
was like, comment like, if you got an idea, like
the job.
So then I did it and it didn't work. I
magic going a job interview. Hey, let me make the job.
Let me know that.
So then next thing you know, I'm like, I'm not
going to Boston. I get a text saying congratulations graduations. Congratulations.
I'm like, what they graduated me for? So I text
my agent. I'm like, yo, what's what's going on? He's
got three congratulations texts. He's like, I don't know. I'm like,
all right, So they I call him like, YO, what's
going on. He's like, I don't know. Let me call
around see what actually hold up one sect He's like, uh,
don't take my word for it, but you might be
going to Boston at twenty two. Get your phone out
just in case. So I take my phone out. I'm
at my boy's house, my best friend's house, because I
didn't get a drafted by it to the Green room,
and I was like, all right, cool, sit there. Boston
gets you after everybody goes crazy around me.
Uh.
I think it was Danny was the first one to
call me, and then Brad and then so I was
like going to Boston, which was I thought I was
going to Utah next pick and that was my thoughts,
like I thought I was going to Utah twenty three.
Then they trade to pick the God.
Yeah, that was no.
That was when Utah was nice though. That was when
they had Donovan, Mitchell had Rudy, they had.
Yeah, right, team you was Salid your rookie year in
both and had a.
Lot opportunity to play because like that year in Boston
it was me Shimmy is the really force?
And then Gordon Hayward hurt ye.
Yeah, so I played a lot even in the playoffs
Gordon came back like I was still in the rotation,
played a lot of backup five because Tice was our
theater and his freedom, uh year, I think we had
in his freedom that year. Yeah, and then but play
a lot of backup five and kind of made a
name through that that whole process.
That rookie year.
Man, you getting drafted, your honey crab as far you
were just over there kicking it. They're kicking it that you.
No, it was just it was like twelve.
It was like me and my family him, like a
couple of my boys, but like we're all just kicking
it because it was like I'd rather do it, like
I didn't want to do nothing crazy because like I'd
hate to be the guy that's sitting there, like what was.
You nervous you might drop the second round.
I wasn't nervous I'd go second round.
But I definitely didn't think I was in the top
like fifteen twenty picks.
I was like walking around and thirty like.
Yeah, the same experienced.
I remember I was supposed to get picked at seventeen
and when I ain't get picked over, yeah, I was like,
oh it's over. I'm tied to go second round.
That's how I was. Like twenty two, I was like
I'm not going to Boston. So I started looking at games.
I was like, Utah twenty three, best chance I got,
not Utah San Antonio twenty nine.
We started doing that.
You could you start you started thinking you cook. I
was like like even in my reaction, like you see me,
I'm not crying I'm not. I'm just like, damn, I'm
going to Boston. I got to Boston, I was like, so,
like why did y'all draft me? Cause I took the clipboard.
Out of Coach's hands workout, but they brushed it off
and they're like, just don't do that shit again.
Shout to Jay, that's my Guy's crazy?
What gravitated towards you when you got to Boston? Who
shows you the ropes?
Kalk Kwalk's my vet.
Yeah, even like I'm gonna say because like technically the
guys I knew most of the guys in the roster.
J T was best friends of with Harry, so like
we were mutuals already through through HG and I was
like all right, cool. Then it was Kwalk, Brad Wanna
Maker and uh Gordon Gordon. Tom Gordon. Gordon's type of
vet though that like do as I do, Like I'm
not gonna pull you along. So if you want to
show up at six am to work out with me, cool,
but like I'm not about to ask you to show
Kwalk was the type to be like anything you got,
like I'm here for you. Like damn COVID happened that year.
I was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do
because my lease, I can't pay pay for the least
I got, No, I don't getting paid no more. And
then at the same time, like I can't go home
to my grandparents, my mom like the ninety sixty something
Heywalk was that come live with me saying I lived
with k Walk the entire COVID until we went to
the bubble so like and then Smart of course was
a vet too, but like all those guys were my vets.
Kimba, kim was great Kimble to embrace you and bring
you into us all that love.
Think about growing up in Charlotte. Man, I remember I
told him the story. I said, you came to practice
a Providence day when I was in ninth grade. I
remember asking for your autograph. He's like, man, I don't
remember that, but I remember practicing at PD. I was like, yeah,
in the small gym, like I walked up to you,
like it was like the FAM moment for me too.
And then also like to have him as a vat
still to this day's my coach camera man Kimbo coach walked,
what what.
Was you gonna do with Kimber then say pull up.
The slumming go back somewhere we found out how to
figure it out about to be pursued. Happiness League, don't limber.
With your guys.
I'm saying what you did with that first shake, but
I forgot that make Covid ship but it was wicked.
Covid was wicked man, Like we was over here thinking
about the bubble, like bubble was insane too.
What was that was the bubble?
I got so many stories that bubble man, so so
many stories.
Don't say too much.
I can't say the wrong podcast. I can't say too
much to the pivot.
The bubble was crazy just because like you got to think,
you play a game. After a game, you can't shower,
you walk in like you walk out the locker room.
You see you just played like and mind you, there
was so much going on the bubble, and mind you,
there was nobody but dudes. Like it was to a
point where like you would like they had this one
pool where you had the shrimps, Like you have to
go get shrimps.
You go to your room. That was the best best
food you can get on the bubble.
Because you couldn't order ran from the start, you didn't
get no takeout, like I remember the one time dude
went to the edge of the bubble got suspended for
three games. Yeah, so you couldn't order until like I
think it was like fifty days.
In and they showed them meals. I had, boy, the
meals was delivering me to your room.
Now Lebron, Lebron good Bron had his own his own
room at the top Penthouse wine.
House. He had a house on the campus.
Speak for yourself.
Yeah, he was like that.
Yeah I.
Knew about that.
Remember, Bro, were there with our superstar. Don't come across
the room for bubble.
You didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, Bron legit like he had his own like had
their own setup like that, was taking care of everything.
Somebody leaks some ship, I said, I said, Bron, specially.
For that.
So yeah, so then next th you know, we have
that bubble experience was is insane and even just with
people like I can't put the dog out like my dog.
I can't put a guy out like that, not like
there are some people that hang out the pool waiting
for it come down, like you know, different energy. You
probably someone who was in the at the time. So
it was a different, different time.
That's a rough experience. I wasn't hooping though out in
that ship though.
Imagine you playing like you know, Battle for Atlantis. Exact
feeling is that with no fans. Okay, so like you
in an auditorium ballroom court they put those TV screens
around you. That's when it got wicked where you're like
it was jokes because you look up my pops. My
pops had a like cigarette damn near in his robe,
zoom like pop like it takes an ath, said, Pop,
you can't be doing this man like.
Chilling square.
The road.
Chilli.
I said, yeah, this is a different experience.
You got like they pumping them crowd noise with the
home arena like it wasn't real. Like I always say,
the bubble was such an experience that you have people
playing out of their minds and never played that way
before the rest of the.
Correct my soul TJ. Warren Bubbles. He was damn there.
Because because guys ain't have to deal with nothing else
was hot ball. At the same time, it was like
I ain't never seen dudes like our heroes pulling up
off one leg three on some crazy.
Murray, crazy Ray.
It had to be. It had to be better than
playing in the next year, though, I can't excel. That
was terrible. So you ain't in the big old arenas
with nobody in there.
Yeah, it was dead you bro, It was so funny.
What was that You remember that game when somebody was
talking crazy about a rough and scream that ship in
the game and you can hear everything. You heard everything.
Stop by the bench.
You can't talk to me that way. You can hear everything, bro.
Our first game we walked in the stadium about to
play Milwaukee, I'm like, how this.
Ship ain't gonna work? Yeah, I can't get hyped. Ja
t hit a game winner a good shot? Were going,
it's a hell of a shot too, man, Like, okay,
where we're going tonight?
Like the bubble was definitely better than that second year.
Can imagine, Like, and it's tough because even for me,
Like because Peyton printing. Those guys rookie so they never
experienced fans. For me, I experienced fans for the first
half of the season, then dealt with the bubble wicked,
then dealt with the next year. So it's like completely different.
Like I'm over here, like bubble times was I feel
like it was a grind. But then the next year
it felt like literally the entire season was just like
tossing to them. I didn't want to be there. That
ship was over.
Didn't nobody want to be there.
Though we had COVID, we had When was that game
we had Joe Johnson, justin Jackson.
Oh I had left then?
Yeah?
No, no, no, it was before you left.
I was going when Joe got Joe in there. But
I remember we had to sit one time. We had
to do the COVID test and then like malfunction and
we had to be there for like shit out there
for like fifty minutes and wait, like they start bringing
you food, Like wow, we just sit there and what's
that before you got on that ship had to pass nobody.
I was clearly right, boy, realmar for sure.
I was getting through that. Bro be here.
We're gonna talk about later. Is the greatest power for
the ball? Something I talked to Nobody said, I told
you he's a little five, he said, he said. I
had to both coaked out summers and work.
Had some fun them. Something I said, y'all talking to
an addict.
That's not real, addict, that's not funny.
But the way he was. It was late for popping
as a wild.
Boy said, I had my favorite whatever Bro say, I
had some fun times in the summer comes out like
you can't say that.
Oh God, letbar Lie, you definitely hit that powder doing
the singers.
Too long to be playing.
Grad don't speak on.
I've just said.
He definitely.
Lying.
Bro definitely did.
Respect all them guys back in the day. I feel
like was not in the two thousands.
He ain't even that old, bro.
Yeah he missed a John starts on the Yeah, that's
g let's I don't remember it either. That was a
wild interview.
That's a while.
Boy.
I ain't never seen nobody tweet.
Like that, even get back.
I've seen people lay down like chill.
You've seen that.
What is it?
That is not the bike like you'll see at the beginning,
Look at the bottom up.
That was powder?
Do you think it was?
No, Bro was tweet that was That's just read.
That was the momentum.
Bro.
That's a shoot in the half court shot, that's that's
There was no contest this tweet.
I don't want to say that you on the show.
He's about to make me speak about powder. I'm just
saying it don't make you act like this. That was
something I think about. Just tweet John Starks to le crazy,
that's the first emo.
He really the o G.
He just tweet he just man my boy tweeked down,
laid down bros. Just sweet.
How you didn't even remember that?
Listen, that's the first thing that came to mind. I
think back to those nineties because that's back when name
was no real testing.
It's really he said, boy smoked squares a halftime.
Beer and a beer in the getty getting containers.
They said, Larry used to have a beer like that's
why it's my dog like LD when he had a
beer after the game. Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all have to
y'all take the bear away from l D. But they
was drinking beer down the game the next Larry.
Out. That's real ship.
I agree that Michael Philly took that looked at him
like man ain't gonna live and e T e.
T want the funniest human beings out my dog.
E T Yeah.
We love bounce bro our own for sure.
On one sessions I used to watch, really okay, so
you're neutral, I'm neutral.
How did those one on one sessions.
Go please credit where credits due. JET did win a
couple of games.
He won a couple of some love also at the
same time, like it was always J T E T
Jet E T.
I never really see no winn you know you're about
to text you about the text for sure.
But I was retired et twenty five pounds he was got,
you know, he before he got back into shape.
That so ET was just just there, you know he was.
I compete, man, I compete.
Yeah, no threes, but you.
Know what I mean.
Yeah, So then E T never really won Jet.
I'd say with when like seven for the games, I say,
like he have his head of his days where you
know he won a couple JT dominated the rest for
sure for sure. And then like the occasional times where
me and Peyton joined.
You want to play one on one?
Yeah, the type too, like they do three spots right,
and he'd be just seven. Yeah, it's like, yeah, we're done.
I remember it was one day me, J T, J B,
you and Peyton all played. I remember because they think
his assholeds for just like I used to like I
used to never do the ship there like ship I
doing one on one. I never did in the games.
Every time I made a tough move. I remember I
messed up JB one time. Jet was like, it's like.
Damn JEP in the games.
So but like so, but it was some good times.
It was hell of fun. That team was one of
I told you that.
Funniest teams. Bro, Trustan and Brad was the most commedy.
I told those stories teammates to this day.
Double Bro, like this, how we do it in Cleveland? Yeah, Letbron,
this is how we did it Cleveland.
Ship can't go man, help rock.
Then remember one time we got on the play the
food was weak. Oh my god, we all over there,
we chilling everybody, just like, yeah, they would never do
this in Cleveland.
Cleveland. Bro would have been crazy crazy all right, but
look at me, come love.
Decide they treat on on.
Oh god, Bro, this is what happened.
Well we're still the playoffs.
Yeah, I swear to what's t bet though.
He was the coolest, take care of you rooks, like
he never did make you do nothing crazy by then,
like I was. I was the second year, so I
ain't have do crazy stuff no more. But like Peyton
Aaron them, he a Ron Man crash out, the killing out.
He hooping.
I used to be his ass every day and wanted,
oh my guys to bust his ass. Joe shout Joe, Joe, Joe,
like playing, come on, he's got better. You gotta gotta
you gotta be come on. Mused to be damn my
boy paid pleasure for what you talked about earlier, Payton Porcher,
his development, what he looked like. Did you say earlier
on too, that he was gonna be like that youngler.
When they got that, when they got him on that contract,
I was like, this is bog It's right, that's what
they're gonna I think they're gonna take care of him,
make it right. He's a fan favor, But that dude,
like when I tell you he was cooking like that
from the man and then like he also like he
waited his time, but at the same time he was
always killing. Like you could tell he worked his like
the type of person you have to tell the get
out the gym like he was one where he'd be
in the morning. They'd be like, hey, we got a
true lockout day and everybody can come in. But pay
damn Pyton were legit. He find and He's the type
of person that like they keep Hi out of gym,
He's gonna find another gym.
He's a basketball junky, yunky. I used to be like,
remember I was like Brad play Peyton, Man, It's cool.
Was like, yeah, he's ready.
What I'm saying killer, Remember that conversation both with Brady play.
On man, I'm tired acting like he don't want man.
He was cooking and practiced though.
You gotta think paying been through it all, like he
was in that positional jet. He started playing again, he
made came. He was hooping for real. Then after that
the next season was Knocolm Brock didn't Jeff like uh,
Derek White, Marcus Smart Court. Yeah, and then the following
year that's when they started going off.
I love today, Bro.
We just had a crazy segment about him and Cable
Park on Shoast.
Yeah.
Yeah, they got paid. They got paid, paying like playing nice.
I love to the women, Kayln, Kaylen Kaylan nice paying
different thinking about this painting so nice that a team
of j T and JB they give him the ball
sometimes at the end of the game eleven Rock.
Yeah, he's nice, Bro. I ain't never I always say
the year good. He drive the fun out that ball.
He got handles like saying the other day, Yeah, put
niggas in the blender.
You gotta play him soon and I'm pissed.
That's great. He'd be talking crazy too. He talked.
He talked like he truly like he go any pick
up session before.
I gotta meet bro.
He's definitely got like I got to meet my boy
p P for sure, peaking.
Black calling meeting the p P though, Ah, that is
that is great because I ain't there.
But see I don't call my ship that. That's probably
why I went over my head. It's the wood or
nothing but the toughest guard though in the league. That's
about you undersized, you.
Out he one through five.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He's always it's really niggas like Jet like short niggas
that can shoot, that can go like fast, like Peyton,
Like there's Garland Seth Curry's c mccollumns, like those guys
are the hardest one guard because I'd rather guard it's
gonna get me fucked up in the future. I'd rather
guard Kde and those type of guys because it's more
like more fun than guarded. Nigga, that's just gonna pit
pat cold cross like pass it off, cut back door,
sprint to get the ball, like yeah, it's too.
Much like relax.
I knew you was different when he was going to
Joel and be, Yeah, I'll never forget that, bro. I
was watching that game. Nah, I mean nah, he was
actually doing a good job. But be seven foot pounds great,
like he's six seven for sure?
Did you sign up for that or they put you
in that?
So like I always able to like guard bigger guys,
like even like college everything else, going to the league,
like they saw play Bam, like we're just gonna try
him and like try him like put them on, put
them on and be he does and then like I
was garden, so like I actually do better. I think
on I A would say I guard best three through five,
one in and two's like Donovan Mitchell's those guys of
the world struggle like they might not score four three
out of five, but like or sorry, four out of five,
but maybe three out of five. Other guys say two,
maybe one out of five, like even like guards dooing recently,
like guys like that, Like I feel like I feel
confident in my matchup versus like other matchups, I'm like,
I might got to got the better of me.
I'm true. I'm truthful about it for sure.
Bro Like and b even for example, like guarding him
in the playoff series, Garden Yannis like Brook Lopez, Like
those guys are like, those are the ones. I feel
like I have the most fun Guarden because they don't flop,
they play downhill and like they fight like I like fighting.
So see that bruise on the side of your head.
I say.
Club was playing in the finals against no saying that Crode.
You didn't go from fight Club asked about the Pistons
playing in the finals is cool because uh, Like it's
a different experience, like they always talk about like the
CP quote, like I want to feel this like experience again,
like type ship, like it was legit, like you that
first game you stepped on the court, I remember my
heart was beating out my chest.
Damn.
And you start playing and it's some the best environments,
whether it's like fans, the media before the game, like
it's top to bottom across from first man to fifteenth man.
I feel like you got to stay lock.
It's a it's a different experience and like to experience
it in that twenty two and two series, Like I
remember were playing those games. We we thought we wanted,
like we were too up to to one or yeah
to one, and I was like, yo, like we're going
back home, like we're home. We got to get this
next win. Game four happens Steph, Like I always say,
Steph went off. Steph is insane. Jordan Poole's he was,
he was Reasonabhyle they won that series, but Steph, that
Game four was ridiculous. Like I remember I was guarding it,
but then when I got supped, I remember washing it.
I was like, this is this is a different level
of basketball player. And he was hyped too, like he
was on a bit. He's showing a lot of emotion
and ship he was.
He was wold.
I ain't never like because Clay was cool this whole series.
He was good, but like it was really JP and
Steph that was that was carrying them throughout that entire run.
A Lotto Porter and Andrew Wiggins bro they had some
big ass game.
Auto Porter.
Got me off to this day because the final year
he got traded to the Raptors out the league, Like
it still makes me mad like he was busting.
Bro.
We always got it.
We always got some random dudes that beat us back
when I was in Boston.
Yeah that was George.
Yeah he was.
Healthy Auto he never been healthy his entire career.
And then true Honalds running on the freaking play every
game twenty minutes and be good.
He was killed, man, he was that he was that
close to being like me. Bro, he was that close
to being a champ. Bro, It's all good, but he
did get your bucks up out of here before that thought.
But it's true. I was already going.
Bro's part about it is that championship year.
I remember you played what three minutes? It was a
real factor.
Today, I want to hang ever matched up with Draymond, Yeah,
for sure.
That man only did another game again, the Pelicans was
back list trying to read out all right, that was
the even game one of the series. Me and got
into it that that series. And I always say I
got the most respect for Draymond in the world, because
I admitted to this day and I've never changed in
the stance. That was my favorite player growing up, like
because six seven before that, you know, pass it involved,
you know everything that stuff, So like I'll give him
the credit where it's due. But every time we play
against some it's smoke smoke competitive. Like I think that
he's the type of person that like talk, as you
all know, talks all the ship in the world. He
got the team to back it up, and there's a
phenomenal job of you know, make an impact on winning
where you can. So like when I was in Boston,
especially back and forth, back and forth every single time.
I think when I was the first within my first
five years, there was always altercation. Damn, there was some
level of altercation where it was like there was when
I trade to Charlotte and try to kick me in
my nuts when it was you know, when I was
in Dallas had to me like when I had in Boston,
like Russell russelled to the ground double text, Like it
was always something.
This year, I think this year was the first year
that play.
I remember, yeah, wrestled. I just never knew that child
was to like at each other.
I never.
Somebody else because like with Dre, you trying to put
your five on them, You try and put like when
we were in Boston, we put j T on them
because we were like switch it, like you put.
Me on.
Who was on that team at the time.
I won't take credit.
It was like they put me on.
Switch.
I would switch with Wini and they would never come
into ball screens.
You talk about having to see to back it up,
go ahead up. Recently Detroit Charlotte, the hell of time.
Man was like, man, I always say just watch the reactions, man, like,
because I saw it from the start, like this is
like even before this play started happening, like during and
Moose were jawing, like talking, talking, and once the much happened,
I was like, oh, like it started getting crazy. I
stood up, he packs in my hands over there, like
all right, let's see if they get it taken care of,
because I'm not about I gotta fined. My second year
in the league or third year in the league, against
the Bulls, I got suspended one game. Man, I lost
thirty thousand dollars. I was like, yeah, I ain't never
doing this again. Then this happens, right, so I'm up
here like all right, they got it situated. When I
saw Miles swing on Durham, I was like, all right,
you see me and tell me to start walking. We
start walking and Stewart ran. That's when we really start
walking and my coach pulled me back because he was like, Grant,
we need you to play.
Like you see me trying to get on the court
twice and I'm like, yo, I want to be involved.
It's fun. Don't lose no chicken, bro, That's what it was.
You can't lose that n mousd the ring. Every each
sequence was fun because you saw the first one. I
give a lot of credit during because he really could
have knocked my dog out. Like Musa, He's like, this
situation happened, tries to swing on him, holds back. They
hold him back, like we got him situated. He walks away.
We think it's done. Musa going crazy. Throw security right here.
This is when he could have.
Food and he watched it.
Man.
You can tell he can fight too, because turns he
checked held it back, so I was like, all right.
He checks the hook then keeps backing up, so I
was all right, cool. They get most situated, Miles. I
think it was just riled up.
He was talking.
He's trying to port.
His teammate Goes keeps pursuing him, trying to swing swings
on during they swing back and forth.
They miss miss missmiss so nothing happened. Seward came from
the other side of the bitch.
He good scooped him, though he since to this day, I.
Think he would have scoop him.
Over.
I don't know if either one of them know what
when they get to the ground, like you got to
think because throwing hands is different, Like he slipped it,
Scoops goes for a double leg, tries to slam on.
I forgot you was into that ship. Yeah, yeah, you know,
like getting down and he just broke down the stands
of I forgot what we're doing abouts to the fight.
What are you doing?
Crazy? At least you got point.
Zero zero.
Ros point.
No, God, I think Miles would have slammed him. I
don't know what after that. There ain't no chance of
breaking that up. No, that's too too because on.
My nighbor, I said, Doug, I said, my boy been
in this before I took him back to the.
Hood, even doing boxing lessons show show.
Yeah, they got wacked for sure. What was like, man
moving from Boston to Dallas?
What was that transition?
Like?
Yeah, I was just saying, because like signing trade, signing
trades always a misconception. People think signing trades is like, oh,
this guy got moved, versus signing trades. Basically the player
decided to go somewhere else and stuff like that. So
when I left the team, I was like, you know,
at the time, me and Joe were on the best
of terms. Now it's my dog locked in for life,
but at the time we were on the best of terms.
I was like, I'm going I'm gone either way. So
then I signed Dallas and I'm like, all right, cool,
So Devin me Luca's represent by my agency, uh, get there,
and Mark and those guys are like, hey, we're excited
to have you. We need you to be like a
leader on his team, hold people accountable, all this other stuff.
I'm like cool. So then that season happens, you know
how it went, and uh, like it was a great time.
Like I looked back to those times. I learned so
much about that team, like Kyrie, like all the misconceptions
that I had across by him at the league. I
was like, Yo, this is one of the best teammates
I've ever had, Like, and then you got like ld
one of the best players. I remember those conversations with
Et and JT's my dog.
J T is my dog.
JT is my dog.
Don't do that, and.
That impacts winning more. How you determine which one is
a better player, that's on you to decide. The talent
that I saw playing with Luca is absurd.
He's nice.
What you say about J two, I missed.
He impact.
The way he impacts winning is unprecedented. He impacts the
game out every fast that he can defend, he can
like he's a playmaker. He can score, So he's a six'
ten wing that can do it. All that's the that's
the best way to describe. IT ld six Seven european
bucket that also controls the. Game but he like he,
pays like he knows how he puts people in, Position
Like i've never had that many open shots since playing
With Luca naci in my.
Life it's difficult at.
Times at the same, time like it's like you watch,
him you're, Amazed LIKE i always, SAY, JT i think
had the benefit of the doubt that like in moments like,
that he was amazing in, moments but also we had a,
really really freaking good, team so you didn't have to
be amazing at all.
Times like with L.
D i felt like every single Game i'd be like
there's something new That i'm, like holy, crap like and
maybe that's just how they both, play you. KNOW jt
is a little bit more passive also like a little
bit more like trusting in his. TEAMMATES ld is a
little more ball, dominant you, know getting to his Own
so what's that first practice of the training? Camp like
would you gotta See kyrie And luca hooping at the
end Of? Dame oh, No So i'll say THAT i
always bring it back to that family story because when
family came, out was Like grant got twenty six on his.
Head i'm like that is Cap oh.
Yeah, YEAH i definitely got scored on about twelve like
definitely about twelve twelve swears.
Switches so like the L d LIKE i, WAS i
was in charge of making sure you showed up every.
Day so LIKE i was like always agitating, them like
pissing them off some way like makes and now it's
we practice like we practice every.
Day it's different than, Different like we skirmished like that.
Was always so it was it was, smooth LIKE i
rocked with it, Man so it was competitive Like kai and,
absurd But kyle with you, know pick and choose like
some days when you, know guys get into.
It that's When kyle turned. Up, yeah Ld jesus for his,
condition whatever he needs to do and let him rock.
Out so it was.
Fun but also that, team like you could tell that
team was a finals team even without like the, talent
like we needed one more big at the, time Like Rashaun.
HOLMES i think at the time WHEN i was, there
like we Needed gafford changed that. Team not SURE Pj
like it was a good trade in my, hand like
in terms of like similar, players but at the same,
time LIKE i THINK pj provides a little bit MORE
i like passing board than he, Does LIKE i feel
like he's a little more score score. Motivated so like
even that group like they were they were prepared to
go to the finals and that's why they. DID i
just think that made it tough at the.
End so you were one parton who probably thought Lat
year like everybody, else like how the hell did that
Trade luca or that was probably.
SHOCKING i was in bed AND i was LIKE i
SAW i saw the. TWEET i was, like ain't no.
Way at the same, TIME i.
Know because Like nicos loves a d you, know he's
A kobe, guy AND A d Was kobe's. Guy even
talking about it was really trying TO i thought it
was really trying to set Up yanni's going To.
Dallas that's what they really. Wanted they Wanted joannice and
A d In. DALLAS i think that was the envision.
Plan oh A. D.
Wow but were the fair, families, yes, general because that's
that's all he talked. About he talked about those two.
Guys those were the.
Guys SO i, think like they, said remember the first
call they made To, looks it was A.
TIMBERWOLVES i think it Was, milwaukee then it Was, Timberwolves,
yeah yeahs.
Then Timberwolves looks going, After timberwolves going After so.
That was a year.
Earlier he's been this, year boy would have been, Yeah
dallas out of. There he'd been deep them for.
Show. Yeah so but that was it.
Was it was smooth like seeing. It but then when
the trade, HAPPENED i was like Wealth nicoas just fed.
Up they were they were done with. It they were
done with like the like the like organizational. Control they
were done after. Them so they were, like we're gonna
move off of. Them and in my, OPINION i think
that was messed up because blindsided your best, player superstar
superstar probably top, three top two player in THE. Nba,
Yeah so it was like it was very shock from
a player perspective Because i'm, like you could have easily
like gone to him and be like, yo because they
also thought they did right by, them because, like if
you know l d, enough like you, know it's probably
three places he'd go if it Wasn't.
Dallas, yeah and that Was.
That's probably one of the. Three BUT i mean he
did get traded to The.
Lakers, still like, like if you knew Your champions Of,
lakers you can still go to him and be like,
yo like, yeah not to.
YOU i know you probably hate. This you're out of.
Here, yeah it's, like, yeah you are going to L.
A you're going to L. A, Bro yeah you will
be like you probably like, damn well that's fifty million
probably out the making endorsement. Deals but you're taking away
Traxte yeah.
Make, up you're. Right, yeah and it ain't gonna stay
packed Super.
Max, yeah he don't get that, back. Y'all TRUST i
need that, now, Bro how you gonna get? It you,
SEE ld in a ton of commercials do not really like.
Commercials did you, know motherfucker Wal leonard had a?
Tree?
Nigga, yeah, nigga you didn't know that the nigga told
you about the, tree ain't? It, yeah.
L agg you know? Why yeah that's a that's a
bomb l a versus that. Episode, yeah, no boll.
Bro niggas didn't know the niggas linked the.
News what?
Sold? Okay, okay rich believe.
That.
Problem have you back from, injury, Man good to see
you back on the. Court.
Man how's the feeling being back coming back from an?
INJURY i know that's a, grind, man it was stuff like.
That it's, great but it's, Tough LIKE i feel like
come back from any, injury you, know any type Of
like it's my first injury in my, life, bro that
made me miss. Time so like coming back from an
injury has shown me that you have to be. Patient
you got to be understanding that you're not like you
might be better in your like your, mind like you're
better than you, were but you gotta like be understanding
that the SHOT's going to come. Around like even the
first two or, three three four, games LIKE i was
playing good, defensively helping the team win and stuff like,
that but, MAN i was like twelve, percent like from the,
field twelve percent from the. THREE i was, Like I'M
i was killing in.
Practice it ain't nothing like that game, speed.
It ain't nothing like.
It, NOW i Think i'm getting more accustomed to, it
like turning it back. Around but like even, so it's
like they, say it takes a full year In. Aco
So i'm trying to be paid for, myself but also
understand THAT i can't be too patient because trying trying
to app hold yourself to a high, standard but also
like doing all things that, matter like like, before you,
KNOW i always tell the stories like that finals. RUN
i used to, MAN i used to manipulate my weight so,
badly LIKE i would go from two FOR i remember
that first round series and went from two forty three
second round series we played The, BUCKS i got up
to forty. Eight third round series we PLAYED. BAM i
knew up to play in the, FIVE i was two fifty.
Four try to get down into forty three again to
play The. WARRIORS i can only get down to like
two forty. Seven so LIKE i used to try and do,
that you.
Need to tell him how to do this. SHIT i,
KNOW i know the.
Methods i'll tell you how to lose what starts its.
Long, yeah, OKAY i can't do that no.
More no.
Weight you know TOMORROW i want to get into.
Trouble.
Yeah.
NEVER i can't manipulate my weight.
Anymore the WAY i used to is like now with
the ac, Injury i'm, like, ALL i got to make
SURE i stay at the two forty seven to forty
eight rather than going up two fety.
Five, Nigga you wait, too forty eight, nigga he was,
all but you need to see you about, That like, listen.
Listen, man be here with the Real Charlotte. Hornets.
Man, man appreciate bro for real.
Playoffs before you, go you got to tell us about these.
Cards oh, yeah oh, yeah off the court court free,
game so whatever. Cards like you guys might be fans
of stuff like, that like ripping. Wax it's like. Gambling
i'll give you the.
Truth LIKE i brought the case to rip if you
want to rip it after we're done where it's like
if you want oh, yeah, yeah let's so we got
a case Of, panini present them the bue below it
the brown. Case that's the case Of pernini prism football this,
year so like she door. Autos, yeah it's like a
whole case of like twelve boxes in.
It, okay so big money on the.
Way, yeah so cases that guaranteed case, hits so like
you normally have a better chance of making your money
back compared to if you buy individual. Box so, yeah,
yeah if you had a, key so the way you
really it's basically out, prospecting just LIKE, gm just like
you would if you're owning the team and you basically hold.
Cars some cars are more rare than. Others the cars
are more, Rare. Cellphomore, yeah so THESE i brought football
because it's the best way to talk About, okay big
rips right, on brother, box yes, sir and oh IF
i find some heat, HERE i get to keep, it
giving you Keep, okay we got, gifts let me get.
Out You're franklin and.
Joint listen if you had let's tell you the. Truth
if you hit the, manga you're coming off on five
figures and just say y'all. Know, Okay so if you
see a card that looks like an anime, print.
Yeah car.
Less now, listen you want the people who'll be in
there ruining all the kids drink of The pokemon. Cards
if you have people have Been i'm not the person
that shows up by his squeak boxes and walks out
still Like i'm a person LIKE i like buying.
Multiple pack, yep all the.
Packs i'll tell you if you had a good, Card,
Yeah i'm a numbered. Cards what you're looking for an?
EVERYBODY i gotta, Right louis, though is that?
Fire?
Yeah like the base? Card so like base cars are,
cool they're like cool, names but you want guys like
the shinier.
Cards, Look Jared, golf would you consider it a Shiny?
So, yeah that's a. Blue that's a blue. Blue that's.
Numbers who's?
One so tell you the number?
Number christian, McCaffrey i trade. You and also that's another,
thing you can trade.
Cards but like WHAT i always do is based cards
don't really, matter, right SO i always just you peak.
It you'll see, That?
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like rookies sell higher than the, vets, Dude, okay. Consistently
so if you have a rookie card that's a, silver
then that will sell more than a rookie.
Bass similar to how like numbered cards and some. More
it kind of goes by like inclements you're looking, for.
Like the bigger, names the, Quarterbacks like you had A
jackson Dark, silver you might have hit like a couple
hundred card in the.
Gym all, right so this is oh he earned his.
Er he ain't ain't. Rolling, yeah like older.
Insert there's, silvers like people will collect them for, sets
but they're not really like something that.
You, like you ever put to the side unless it's.
Number i'm getting. LEGENDARY i got the wife, FREENYE i
Got Lawrence taylor.
Shocky so, yeah you get like some cool, names but
because they're not their rookie like you go back and
rip the products when they were rookies nukes versus, nowadays
unless it's an autograph or something like.
That Super world.
Champion, yeah we have too much fun with this man
attached man for, sure appreciate.
That but you know we go.
On this is where you you know you might be
able to get a sponsorship for the.
POT i mean.
Seen some products of, Rip Like i'm.
Getting all my favorite, players BUT i ain't Getting sometimes
the favorite players the ones you collect like, okay, SAID
i Got Bobby wagoner AND i Got Nick bosa even
though you Know Nick bosa be, wilding.
But AND i like.
Us, YEAH i got A Michael Michael. Vick although my
case over there because like that's the personal.
Robbers until really.
Long right, now you're really searching for like signs in this.
Product so if you get a.
HOOKAH i got A Mark Andrews shiney.
Though, yeah that's What i'm. Saying so that's Purple. Mark
and like all those cars that are, colored, yeah will
have something what you do with.
The cark and you know he drops that.
Past but, still my, man the kids collect kids collect
cars just for the, joy, right like the base cars
that have.
No, money no.
Incentive, yeah you bring it to a car shop and
that he give these out to like ten year. Olds
that why usually.
Give everything Up under the.
Bridge we got a bridge over the. Bridge yeah that
that bridge is wi you. Man, yeah he give out
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