Young Danielle, Rider & Will Meet World

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Speaker 1: Rider. How was south By? Southwest south By was awesome? Um yeah, so my my my wife's movie premiered Late Bloomers. It was a huge success. The audience loved it. It was so cool because because you know, I've been involved with this film for five years, just you know, tangentially, like from the sidelines are Yeah, it's more or less involved. It depend you know, every every step of this. I guess me. People probably don't know what a producer does. It's kind of hard to pin down. But um, in this case, my wife did everything. Your wife is a producer on this movie, right, she produced late movie, And that can mean so many different things. Like in television, being a producer we've talked about a little bit means one thing. But you know, for instance, the executive producer credit in television is kind of the most creative person right involved with the project, whereas an executive producer in film is usually just the money person, right, so just the person who paid for the movie, an investor. But yeah, it was a great time south By. I love Austin. I've you know, I haven't been to south By for a while, so yeah, it was a good time. Most importantly are the people out in Austin listening to the podcast. Did people tell you they were listening to your podcast? I did get recognized for the podcast. Yeah you nice? Yeah yeah. I mean at this point, it's like it's so funny because I even had somebody like at a coffee shop be like love the podcast. It's like, okay, you know, I don't even know that they recognize me, which I guess happens a lot. Like it never really as like sunk in that like people, because when I think about, like if I recognize somebody, which also never happens because I have face blindness, but if I recognize somebody, I don't say anything like very very rarely, and I'm yeah, right, but my brain doesn't recognize the fact that that must happen all the time, that people recognize me and you just don't say it because why they don't have to. Maybe they don't love Women's World, or maybe they just there's no reason to bother me. Uh And so now it seems like people are like taking the opportunity to say love the podcast and that's it, which is cool. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, And I don't think people recognize me, like my look has changed so much and it changes by the month where it's like I'm heavy along here. I'm sure I leave the house all the time to run by my house. I wish juice great stuff, but no, I just I don't know. It just kind of stopped, and frankly, I'm I'm really happy with that because it's a great balance of being able to do what I love and hang out with the people that I love. But you don't get recognized everywhere. I mean, it's it's fun. I am not like you at all. Though. If I recognize somebody, I go up and I'm like, I love you and enter or whatever, which is why when we go to cons I know everybody because I walk up, I'm like, you were so great, and I just always I love talking to people. But Austin. To get to another thing, We're going this year to Austin, we sure are, and that I've never been, so I can't wait. That's the first I've ever been to Austin either. That's great. Gosh, it's like one of the cities I visited the most. It's never been because there's never so many great festivals there. There's Fantastic Fest, which is also an amazing film festival, the Alamo Draft House is like the greatest movie theater, you know, But there's so many conferences and stuff for somebody. I've been to Austin a bunch and I love it. We don't have to show us around, yeah I will. Well, you know what's crazy is that like this trip, I um, oh, this is totally embarrassing. But I grabbed the wrong suitcase leaving the Oh my gosh, I was that guy. So I made it all the way to town before I looked down and was like, this is clearly not my suitcase. I ended up having to take a lot of lifts, like a lyft, you know, like Uber's. Uh so I did like four lifts in my first you know hour or whatever in in Austin. Um, but uh yeah, the like twice two different lift drivers were like, you know, Austin's becoming the little Los Angeles. I was like, this is this is what everyone feels. And I guess it's just because a lot of Californians are moving out there, but I also think it they mean culturally, Um, it's you know, uh, it's and I kind of get that it's hot the way La is. It has a lot of like the same sort of food culture a little little obviously more like tex Mex than Mex. But um, it's it's cool, man. I love when you fit into the cloth in the case. Were you walking around like George Gastanza just somebody else's suitcase And I hadn't like it was completely the wrong color, by the way, Like it wasn't like we had the same color suiting with you. It's my first I had owned the suitcase for a day, literally like a day, and I was just like, oh, there it is because it had the late time I realized the color doesn't change as it flies over the country, right, Yeah, so if it's black when you buy it, it's black when you just goes along with my face blind I don't know, Like if you ask me, if you you could ask me somebody's eye color that I've known for like twenty years, I could not tell you, right, I don't see. I'm not like that kind of visual person. I just don't. But yeah, so now I have it programmed in my head what color my bag is. What surprises me is not the face blindness, because I have a tendency to have that too. I definitely never recognize anybody, but mostly because I don't know who anybody is um. And also I'm not when I'm out in the world, I think I'm very direct, Like, let's put it this way, I'm not having a whole lot of fun. I'm not a fun person. I'm pretty much out to like accomplish a goal, your missions, get Everything in my life is like what am I doing now? Gotta get this done, gotta do this now, I gotta do this. Now, what's the next thing I gotta do. It's not cool, it's not cool, it's not fun. I really need to work on it. So I'm not paying attention to like, what's that person doing, because that would involve me taking in my surroundings, which I'm not doing. So that's one of the reasons I recognize people. But what's as me about you, writer is that you and I are very similar about attention to detail and like double and triple checking things. And so what I'm surprised is not that you were like, ah, here, this is fitting into my there's a late tag on it. My bag is late. That checks, but not that you then were like, but it would be a total disaster if I was wrong, So let me just do the one second thing now. To save me a bunch of headache. And you didn't do that. Yeah, my brain did not. I mean I was excited to get to the first Yeah, you were child free and alone. You know, my wife was already out there, so I like, right, I was flying by myself for the first time in a while, no child reading a book. Again. Oh, so you were on the airline. You were an unaccompanied adult. Did they walk you through security? We've got an act. We've got an unccompanied adult. Uncompanied adults it when you have a kid, they actually do have like the baby section of the plane. Of course I do. Yeah, Like I didn't realize that, but I was like, so, you're always so so nice to be like, oh, I don't have any adult section. Just sitting back with a with a Chesterfield and a martini. I do nothing like I actually I say like, oh, I was reading like it was really you know, No, I mostly am sitting there playing Sudoku and just being like, oh, I don't want to bring up new merch, but I don't think I'm going to be able to survive the rest of my life exactly. Yes, without a shirt with Danielle's face that underneath just says I'm not a fun person. Oh I'm not. I'm not just your head shot and just I'm not a fun person underneath the least fun is what it should say. I just need that. Just I know it. I'm I'm not fun. I'm not into fun. I don't really love fun. I try to avoid fun. Yikes. Can't wait to travel with you. This is gonna be awesome. Out to breakfast every once in a while. Or go find a coffee shop like ye like about those dreamy nineties coffee shops with couches where you can just sort of sit. That's my idea of fun. It's like silence, no one else and a book. Oh that's great. Yeah, I love that too. I love that. That's weirdly doing that in is really fun. Yeah no, I can see that, Yeah, yeah I can. It's also it's kind of like movie theaters, right, It's such it's weird contradiction. It's like we because we want to go somewhere public with a whole bunch of people, but you want to know they're there, but you don't want to actually exactly. It's one of the reasons I love flying. I love flying, and I'm like super in tune with myself in a plane. I'm like, I have crystal clear vision about like hindside and perspective and where I'm going, not just in the air like at that moment, but like where life is going. Yeah, there's literally no chance for fun. It's like your perfect kind of place. It's incredible, It's truly incredible. Fun is not going to break out in a plane. Danielle's pretty yip. So welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right strong, and I'm will Fredill. You won't believe it. It's actually happening. We are doing Pod Meets World Live, presented by Hyundai. 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Speaking of not having a whole lot of fun, I'm very nervous about this episode. I'm still not entirely sure what this is. That's exactly why I'm very nervous about it, because I, as you've gathered, like to be in control, and I have no idea what this episode is. I know basically. Producer Jensen car husband of this podcast, was contacted via our Podmeats World at gmail email address by a listener who somewhere, somehow I'll let Jensen. Producer Jensen has been of this podcast explain it, but came into possession and ownership of some tapes. Some audio tapes for our dear listeners who were born sets because we're yes, cassette tapes for our dear listeners who are too young to even know what those are. Their little rectangles with tape inside, and they held audio and used to be able to play them. That's how we listened to all of our music. And this person came into possession of them and was like, so, to be honest, I don't even know what's on them, but I have them and I'm curious, and Producer Jensen, husband of this podcast, said, please send them to me and I will extract them, make them digital and listen to all of them. And they were interviews with us. They were interviews with us from some journalists. So what we think happened is that a journalist from sixteen Nish magazine or one of those teen magazines JOP threw away or sold or something got rid of their old interview tapes that they probably held on to for decades because they needed it for you know, research or you know, to have evidence of the interviews. So they just got rid of them, and then this person came into contact with him. I don't know if they bought them or what happened. So I let us please introduce producer Jensen Carr, husband of this podcast, and he can tell us more. Well, first, I do want to just acknowledge that Danielle said that her paradise was being alone with a book. I'm her husband exactly, so sorry, it's my friends to acknowledge. Yes, this man's name is Paul Hill. We appreciate him, we speak his name. And Paul purchased these on eBay. He finds himself as sort of a connoisseur of outdated media, and so one of the things he purchased were these cassette tapes as a fan of Boy Meets World. Didn't know what they were. And yeah, like Danielle said, these are discarded interviews of you guys from different seasons of the show. We'll go down each one of them in particular. Wow, I howled in laughter. I'm so excited to bring these to you. I asked you guys a few questions here and there, just on our group chat to figure some things out. Danielle walked by me a few times, heard her voice and scampered out of the room. I couldn't have run away faster at hearing teenage Danielle not be tapanga, but being Danielle and that's shots, there's nowhere to run at all. Yeah, there were some dogs in the neighborhood who ran to the house purely from the pitch, the high pitch of Danielle yea. And so that's one part. Do you guys remember sitting down for something exactly the same? R is not going to be able to tell the difference between get Ready for get Ready for basically same voice. Listeners won't know the difference between them. Was talking between thirteen year old and over forty. Actually, people will think we're interviewing indie. That's oh really, I think so. I think we're going to hear too much Shirt's voice more because there is a there is a slight difference between Indian writer, um, but Indie and young writer, no difference. Do you guys remember these Do you remember sitting down with grown women to talk about being a child? Yeah? I remember, yeah, I remember. I don't remember them recording it. I mean, of course they must have, but I remember you would like go to your trailer and that you'd sit down and they'd sit across from you in this little plastic thing that we had, these little tables and they'd sit across me and they'd ask you, all right, what's your favorite color? What are you listening to? Now? What pizza? Pizza top? What do you do on a first day? First day? That kind of stuff? And then you hold up like they give you a hat or a shirt from whatever magazine, and you'd hold it up and they take a picture, and that would be somewhere in the thing. But I would assume, you know, much like the Zibruta film. I'm amazed that it would this have been held onto and scrutinized as long as it has been, Like the yell said that they hold onto these for decades as evidence of the interview, like it's Frost Nixon yet exactly like she's gonna for Libel. Did you really find out what writer's favorite toppings were? It was what real Bell Pepper said, pepperoni, but he was clearly be a vegetarian. Yes, we've got him, you know, I've got him. They're putting they're putting all these tapes on the next UH satellite going out to the different planets out there. It's going to be like first Messages as canon. Danielle Sichel's sixteen magazine interview, I definitely remember doing these interviews. I did a lot of them, and you know, I remember how it changed as you know, first season went into second season, probably because at first it was like I I think it took a while for me to understand like these that these were not typical interviews, like they were so fun to answer, these kinds of questions and like now and then as I got older, I realized like, oh, like these are questions that basically were like fans, you know, these are like, yeah, these are questions that eleven year old girls wanted to know about. You know. They weren't hard to answer, they weren't about acting. They weren't really about our life on Boy Meets World or what we were actually famous for. It was just like me as this sort of like personality, and so in a lot of ways, that made an easy interview because it was just like I had all these answers because like, oh, I'll tell you about my favorite movie and I'll tell you about my favorite whatever. But in retrospect, it's kind of embarrassing that I didn't know, like you know too, I don't know, it's it's it's it's awkward, like, yeah, I don't know, and the fact that these grown people were asking us these questions so weird to me, Like why, yeah, well, like I remember, do you guys remember there was a couple. They were like an older couple that were like they both worked for a couple of team mag Maybe they were financed. They were like the nicest people, Like I have fond memories of like running into them at events. But in retrospect, it's like they knew everything about me. They knew everything about my family. They knew because they were constantly like keeping tabs on us for these magazines, and in retrospect, that's just kind of weird, like what a weird job to The interviews were basically um fan fiction fodder. They were they were providing the material for young kids, eleven twelve year old kids who read these magazines to then envision themselves in your life as your friend and imagining what they would say when they met you, and how they would kind of get you, what do we have in common? And like it was it was basically the fantasy of small of small kids. I'm so happy you said that as an expert, because here's what we do have to address is that there are tapes that are interviews you with you two as from this writer and myself, No from writer and will okay, but there are also interviews where Danielle is the interviewer. Correct, because I used to I had it. I had my own column. Do you remember that I had. I had Danielle's diary in sixteen magazines. So I have a lot of pictures with both of you where it's you and me and a tape recorder in between us and my mom. That's also what I realized, these photoshoots I have with attractive teen men from part I was doing Danielle's diary, so slightly less creepy. Now I was slightly less creepy. I would I would interview were doing it for free, right hundred percent? I was free, like they basically were like, I have a great idea, Danielle is a lot less creepy than grown adults interviewing these kids. Well, also you, it's great for you as because the readers these magazines were girls primarily like I are, exclusively, and so for you to be in the magazine or to get publicity had to be a sort of avatar for the reader. Makes perfect sense. Yeah, it's really interesting. I saw forgot about that. A lot of the interviews are me interviewing you. Now, Danielle, what you said was absolutely right about the kids kind of fantasizing. You know. Anna Kendrick wrote a book about growing up an actor, and she said when she was six, five, six, seven years old, she would sit on the playground and imagine what she would say to us if she ever met us. She's like, I always I would sit there and imagine what I'd say to the cast of Boy Met World if I ever had a chance. So that was like a thing, that's what people do. So ironic because now she won't return our calls. I know, we're right, we haven't. We will try to, Okay. So I went through these tapes. I pulled segments that were hours of audio that I went through. It's so good. Um, you guys are basically going to be talking to your younger selves. All right, Okay, Oh let's see this. Are you nervous? I am, well, like like being sixteen. I want a cigarette. Also, again, once again, let's thank Paul Hill for these cassettes. Thank you. Yeah, we're going to start with writer. Is that cool? Yeah? All right? So the this is taken this, I mean, these are insane. They're truly I mean people who are listening to they are fans of the show. These are time capsules. This one the most. I think this was taken the day after your first Live Boy Meets World taping. What yeah, so you had just done your first taping Evert's nineteen ninety three, right, yeah, yeah? Was it the positive? It's the pilot you did and you were and by the way, you were right that you mentioned a matinee taping and you guys mentioned a night taping, so we figured that out. It would have been we would have found it out the week after on this audio. But it's nineteen ninety three, So how old are you? Writer? Thirteen? All right, this is a magazine reporter sent to the Disney lot to chat to the stars of a new ABC show. She knows nothing about you, or the show or anything. You're just basically a fingers crossed We're going to use this in a magazine one day as a point of reference. This is your first week as being Sean Hunter. This is the reporter asking you to introduce yourself to the readers. Here's clip one. Oh no, Riders Strong King, Actually, may I go by Riders Strong? Things no riders from birthday twelve, eleven seventy nine. Socially, I am. I weigh about a hundred fifteen pounds. I am five two and a half I think foot three somewhere around the brown hair and blue eyes. Okay, wow, two one hundred and fifteen pounds. But it's as you think, that's creepy, that's will, that's clip one. Oh. But I was definitely taller than that. I mean, you can watch the pilot. I'm already taller than well, maybe not that year. I know, maybe you grew that year and Ben and I were, you know, four foot eight. Yeah, I know you know what with at the pilot because I'm sitting down like the entire pilot, I could have been that short. So so it could have been that year that I sprouted from when we did the pilot to that fall, which is why I look so much bigger than that. Yeah, you wouldn't mess up your your height that if you were five six, you wouldn't have said five too. By the way, no one who uses a half is messing up there. Exactly, yeah, exactly to the tea. Wow. Uh, Now the reporter asks you how you got the role. Here's clipp two. I went on the audition. I didn't. I didn't. I just read the size. I hadn't read the whole script. And so I went on the audition and then I got a call back, and then I got another call back, and then I was having screen tests. Now that I got it, I did the pilot and then after that, you know, they changed the they changed a few of the cast members. But I made it. And then and then I came back and here I am where you are? What you wouldn't you do? Did you fell abating anyway when you found out or when I found out I got part? Now not really, you know I used to do that, but now it's just kind of well, you know, it's why you get used to just doing what I said. Though I've said this about boy before. By the time it came along, I was like, hey, whatever, just another show, because I've been so stoked about Julie that when Julie didn't get picked up, it was like devastating. So I just that was keeping I was keeping my emotions in check. But okay, so this is after the first half, this is this is the true pilot or whatever you would call it. But I could we said, yeah, this right, so this is coming back to the show, and yet I'm still that short. Okay, wow, uh are you? Is this weird for you to hear this voice? Yeah, it's a lot of optimism, and everyone except you say, my god, it's like you're the only one ashing a cigar while doing an interview, right right, Well, I mean I think I mean Will. I guess Will had as much, probably as much experience acting as me, but he was older, you know, so it doesn't seem as bizarre for him to But also Will, I feel like, you know, the such a difference that I've discovered doing this podcast us with you between you and me, um, is just how much you knew what you were in for, Like you always wanted to be an actor, and that meant potentially being on a sitcoms. Wanted was to be on a sitcom exactly, so like you had done other jobs hoping that one day you could be on Family Ties, which is you got right. Whereas for me, I never watch sitcoms and didn't like them if I had seen them, and so it was like I wanted to be doing plays or of anything dramatic movies and so like here I was You know doing this like boy Meets World at this point in my life, like it was not something I really understood, Like I didn't wrap my head around what I want. You wanted to go back to lame is this woman's asking you what your eye color is? Right, let me take a picture from ye. It's like now the reporter wants to know a little bit about this sitcom, boy Meets World that is set to air in the fall. Here's clip three. It's you know about a kid just his life at home, in his life at school, and you know Boyme's World, you know, entering the world as a kid, and it's it's great. I like the idea so eloquent, and like this television show, your on is gonna be okay, writer, it's gonna be okay. You can start. You don't have to promote it, just let it okay, okay. So here's something very strange. The reporter does this with a lot of celebrities, even if they're not on Boymy's World. She loves getting and this must be some sort of research that they knew about their readers. Details of your rooms. Oh oh, that's right, that they loved finding out what's in your room, which is super strange, and like I said on the tape, she does it to almost everyone. So here you are right or strong thirteen years old explaining your room Clip four. Oh god, I live. Um. We have a three story house, and my brother and I shared a room on the third floor, and we I guess we like had the whole third floor. And then my brother moved out, so I mean he's not moved out, but he moved out of our rooms. He got his own rooms. So I have. I have a pretty big room for myself, and I have a collection of the you know pictures of paintings of dragons, that's basically what I and I have a few movie posters. I have a terminator to a movie poster, and I've got a stand by Me, which is my favorite movie. And and then I have a collection of swords. I have swords and I stuff like that, yeah kind of thing. Yes, I want handwords, so I have lots of that stuff on my walls in D and D already. Yeah, I definitely did have and I still have like real sorts and knives I like, which is the weirdest thing. That's what I decided to do with my acting money, Like hand forged like beautiful knives from Renfares and first edition and first ession books. Yeah, I wasn't collecting those yet, but but yeah, oh I'm glad the movie posters were good ones. You know. I still stand by T two and stand by Me. And then yeah, I got really into prints of fantasy art. Um so I used to buy and it was expensive, like you know, you would get like these limited edition prints of um I'm trying to remember, Will maybe you know some of these artists. I used to know all the artists by name, like great fantasy artists, like the people who did the covers for dragon Lance books. I know, I don't know the I mean, I'm are you talking Thomas Cole or more? Kind of like the one doesn't sound familiar. It was like a Peter somebody. I mean, these are all people who probably around this time we're starting to do magic cards, like the art for magic cards. But before that, there wasn't really a venue. I used to get catalogs of fantasy art and it would be like amazing, you know, dragon stuff, Frank Frazetta. That sounds familiar, That's sounds familiar. Um, you know, I want to just collects, like you know, and they would be like limited edition Prince, it would only be fifty of them signed, and I would get get them. I guess my parents probably still have them somewhere. Most importantly, have you ever stabbed someone? No? I have a friend who got stabbed when We're Ricky on our show got stabbed at my house. It was his own knife. I'm sorry whyne I was not expecting at my house. I thought he was going to be out. Who did if? This is why you don't let your kids collect knives and swords. Yes, we used to collect knives and swords, and then what we would do is we would like strap them on and go into the woods and play D and D, which we wouldn't use them. We weren't like live action role playing, but we would just have them with us while we camped out or hung out and played D and D. And like, one day, Ricky and this other kid, Will were wrestling and Ricky had the knife strapped to him, and Will as part of like haha messing around wrestling, decided to unstrap the knife try and get it to like to to get him off of it, and instead didn't you pulled the knife out, but then dropped it and Ricky rolled on top of it. Yeah, and so we like we rushed to the hospital and had to get stitches and it was awful and it was like, but I just can't believe. It's like, Yeah, that's why you don't let kids play with ers. Parents had the parenting style some might call permissive. Yeah, there was very There was the woods and no. I get that though, because when we went camping, we always strapped our pelicans on. We were always arm You guys were both insane people. Yeah. I brought out a woofleball bat. Yeah, we were always strapped. And we went into the woods too. You and you would you play with your knives and throwing knives and throwing stars, and it's one of the things we bonded over. Rider. Yeah, wanting to be ninjas, Yes, exactly. Let's get more to those movie posters here. She asked you your favorite actors and actresses, which you were excited to answer answer. This is clip five. Oh God, John Malkovich, I really liked him and of Mice and Men, he was really good and that in the line of Fire Court and I like Um Jack Nicholson a wy Um. Actresses. I'm not sure I don't know you hate women? I guess yeah, how many thirteen year olds have favorite actresses? Sure? But also like it is, it does say a lot about writer that he's like of mice and men and like he's he was just in the line of fire obviously of course. Yeah, I remember, you know, I really loved Jack Nicholson and I remember that. Yeah, John Malco, I was. I was. That's it's a pretty good taste on your ears. Uh, continue with favorites here. She asked you your favorite TV show? Do you want to guess an answer? God, I probably said I don't watch TV. I don't know what family time favorite. I know what you're gonna say. You're gonna say Wonder Years probably alight, probably right, because it was. Yeah, I didn't really watch it all that much, but I did like it a lot. I'm trying to think, yeah that Yeah, that's what I'm gonna be honest. I was surprised. Here's clip six citizens, but yeah, but shocked you were a sitcom kid. That's weird. Yeah, I don't remember really watching. Do you think you were? Because I wrote this down? Do you think you were towing the company line? Yeah? I think so too. Yeah, I think I was high off of having been on it and it was the number one show in the country, and I was because I had been on it maybe a year before, and I was probably like I was probably hoping to like brag about having been on the show. Yeah, it just it's just so funny. It's funny to be like my favorite actors, John Malkovich and then your favorite TV show's Home Improvement. I was season two something. But I also think that there's something too like me, not even just towing the company a line, but I used to feel very alienated by television culture, like pop culture, and so I feel like I would say something like that to probably ingratiate myself, to be like, I'm a normal kid. I'm just like you. I'm just like all the other kids. You know. My friend gets stabbed in the woods, just like you, just like yours. I pull up my chainmail one leg at a time, all right. So, one thing I noticed about these tapes is how weirdly so many of you have stayed the exact same right. There's there's so many differences, but in Nicore, you're all the same person, which is very odd to me. Writer in one of the clips and I didn't pull it because I did not know you would start to show this way literally talks about trying to fund an independent movie. It's so strange. It's literally the conversation you guys have at the beginning of this podcast. But this clip here is one of the more obvious examples to me. Here she asks you your favorite place to visit. Here's clip seven. Yes, I just went backpacking at a summer for five days and it was great. I love backpacking, one of the greatest things. So, I mean, I just like to get out into the world, and the Tiny Sammy is the perfect place to do that. So yeah, it's amazing because it's too crowded. It's almost if you just use your voice now, it's you still like backpacking, you go about yourself sometimes for five days. I mean it's the same guy, it's the same thing. So crazy. That's well, let's get into the big leagues. This is now a grown woman working for a teen magazine who has It's not her fault she has to ask these big questions about girls, all right. This is her digging deep into a thirteen year old's love life, and it's just as awkward as it sounds. Here She asks what kind of girls you like? Clip bait? But also I like, Um, I don't have like a particular set thing that I go, but I'm I'm open to everything. Oh course, yeah, I mean I don't really care a personality definitely, so I'll take whatever I could get anything, expectations please, just like me. It also just shows how much time the times have changed, though, just instantly, assuming you'd like girls, right, I mean it's like you did. We wouldn't. What what do you look for in a partner? Wouldn't. It's like, well, you're a boy and you're on TV, so what kind of girls do you look for? Course? What if you're looking for a guy? I mean, you wouldn't have said that, but it just shows how much the times of thing I would have been completely closeted. You want, there was no there was no avenue for that. There was It would have been complete lack of acceptance. Yep, yeah, we talked about it with Lance, right. Yeah. Thing, Well, let's keep the awkward rolling here. She asks you what a fourteen year old would like to do or thirteen year old would like to do on a date. I don't know anything. Whatever she wants to do I have those standards. I have no expectations, and I'm willing to do anything she said to be around me place. Oh I just I need love and I'll take it anyway. I met a great girl. She wants to take me to a murder scene, and I think I'm down down. Thing like, I had never been on a date. I didn't know what the date would have been, Like what do you do? I mean, what is like you were like year three with your first girlfriend already, weren't you. I would have already been with with Maureen. Yeah, so I was, because I was with her when we did the pilot. Okay, so wait, I have a question then, how much of answering the questions about girls was you feeling awkward because you were in a relationship. Oh, I thought you're gonna say at the age of the interviewer, but yeah, no, we didn't realize that. But I mean you were. You and Maureen were pretty serious, so many idea together forever. I was really and maybe you didn't want to talk about that. Somebody said to you like, no, I know you've got to be open and available because somebody like I didn't have like the dating experience, you know, because Marie and I were together until I was sixteen, so it wasn't until I was sixteen that I actually, like, you know, actively dated anybody else or looked for girls or trying you know. So yeah, I wouldn't have known what I was talking about for sure. Marine does come up later. God, yeah, No, I think I was just clueless. I mean I think mostly I was just clueless about you know, I wasn't clueless. I mean, I was in a relationship, so I was. I was in love, So I had lots of feelings about romance and what it means to be in love, but I didn't know anything about like actual real life dating girls. Well then, Maureen, well she knows to move the subject then, because now with that type of revealing answer, let's transition into pets. She asked, as if you have any cats? And I'm telling you you give a rather surprising answer, a lot of turns and twists in this one clip. Ten two cats Cassie and Blossomed. So now Flower, so I have three cats? Three what do you need talk about? No, because we grew up with Blossom and Flower or our two cats growing up, so I must have just gotten them confused. And then Cassie. Cassie. Actually we adopted I completely forgot about Cassie. We adopted Cassie from North Carolina. Um she was named for. We were in Caswell, North Carolina. I think that was what Caswell County. I don't know. My brother was filming a movie in North Carolina. So we ended up adopting a stray cat. Did someone stab the cat that died? It was an accident. She rolled over on one of our playing our our throwing stars. All right, last question here again a very eerie time traveling answer. She wraps up the interview by asking you what you see yourself doing in the future. I don't think I'm going to be an actor all my life. I think I'd rather just either be a director or a writer. I'd like to write screenplays, definitely screenplays her books. Wow, there you go. I never I was already live in the dream. So weird one weekend to boy Meat's World. Wow, that is crazy. I never though. I honestly thought that it was something that sort of just stated out of being on boy Me's world, like, you know, being like sixteen or something, because I was sixteen when I wrote my first script. And remember I gave it to Jeff Sherman. Um No, maybe I was fifteen, fifteen or sixteen. Yeah, when I wrote my first feature length script. Um, So I always thought that that was where it started. But I was already thinking about it at thirteen. That's crazy. You're doing what you what you wanted to do. I mean, it's you're from the time you were thirteen. You are living the life you wanted to live. That's that's cool. Yeah. Well, actually I wasn't living the life I wanted to seven year contract on a TV show now thirteen. Yeah. Yeah, you got to pick what you wanted to be, and you're doing what you picked at thirteen. That's really cool. That is kind of cool. Yeah, I thought that was awesome. I mean, you're literally only missing and doing a podcast about this show exactly exactly. Um, all right, let's move to Will. Oh Jesus, I'm guessing the interviews are going to be different. It's going to be different. This is also from the day after the first taping, Okay, And you might be asking how old these tapes are you just like you can't like put it in context as to how long ago this was for you. I'll let will tell you. As the reporter asks him how long he's been in LA Probably hello, two weeks ago. Really, yeah, I just came out for the show. That's what crazy. Two weeks in Los Angeles, one week of being on the show. Um. A lot of it has been said about the evolution of Eric. Obviously we talked about it all the time. But when the reporter asks you about this new character you're playing, we get a rare look into what you thought as an actor. It was after the first taping. So here it is about thirteen Eric. He's he's an average teenager. He's got the problems with the girls, got the problems with his little brother, his little sisters, your parents, little brothers played by dense average and so this was different from me because I went from being the youngest to the oldest. So I wasn't getting the advice anymore. I'm giving it, which is just different. Okay, I feel all right so far with how that's okay. With all that out of the way, we get to the burning question on everyone's mind. What does your room look like? This is her finding out what your brand new LA digs are like. This is clip fourteen. We've decorated it in any way yet, have you've been able to make it like your own Google homely yet or the man You're trying. My roommate and I are trying. We're you know, getting posters at the Dizzy Story. I have a big Beauty in the Beast poster in my room, which is the best movie in the world. Okay, you worked for Fox, so we have a huge Melrose Place posts really kind of commercial war here. Oh yeah, exactly, yuys. You know, by the end it's going to look like a Blockbuster video store. So this is also funny because if you knew Wills, I guess what do you call it? You're like TV room in your house? Oh yeah, my, my, the media the media room. It looks like a Blockbuster video to also lived the life you pad since you are a child, because you're no different, none of you are any different. It's incredible, that's awesome. And that's not it. She wants to know more. Here's clip fifteen. Anything set up like boombox or anything for music. We have the we have the SCAEO and the TV and the VCR and you know we were taking UIs and butthead every night. So everything's going well. He's going well, sounds like a real positive he's going, well, he's going great man and the Life of my Dreams Place poster. I'm donecr Melrose Place poster, Bevis and butthead this is living the life. Give me an otter and a funny bring that up. We'll get to that in a minute. Here, she asked about what you might be playing on, said boombox Clip sixteen, rock and roll alternative. I think Sugar is probably one of my favorite soul silamuse what who? I pulled the clip again. This is clip seventeen. This is the last two bands you brought up that I think you've made up here. They are Who Yeah, Who Gurus? Okay, so Who's curd Wash and uh is one of the greatest bands of all time. Who need them? But I'll deform Sugar. And then the last band is an indie band back in the day called the Hoodie Gurus, which were phenomenal. The Hoodie Gurus, the Neighborhoods, the cartoon Uns, Paisley Jungle. These are all bands at like my brothers found And of course when you're the youngest brother, you listened to this stuff. So it was we were into the kind of the stuff that all sprung off from the CBGB scene and the Chicago punk scene, the Minneapolis kind of alternative scene. So there are some great bands out there. I was like, he just picked a random more than rhymed with Husker Do shout out to the hoodie Gurus. God wing there's somebody from the hoodie Gourus' is like, oh my god, somebody listened to our album. Well, here's the question. Here's the question. You've been waiting for favorite TV shows? Do you want to guess? I would probably say Family Ties. I think you would have said Mash. Yet I might have said Mash. I might not have. But I also think maybe different strokes would be up there. Wonder Years might be up there. I don't know. I think you might have said something that was more contemporary. I bet you said it was like that season just you know, just to like be like you and home improvement. That might you know, it's like, that's the point of doing an interview, to like connect with people. I feel like you might have thought about more. Okay, well I tried to connect with hoodie googers. You also remember, you know, actually here's another I think we couldn't get television that was gone, so like you wouldn't when you talked about what television shows you like, you were talking about what is on TV actively watching right, right, because if you were to reference an old show, you would be outdated, you would be behind the times, and nobody would have access to it. Right. Okay, well clip eighteen Bison, Butdhead and The Simpsons are my two favorite right now. MST three K is also definite. Those are my top three. Definitely my top three by far well three K Mystery Science Theater three thousand. Will was definitely like a cool kid up MSK. He was just like all the things I like. You don't know so exactly like I'm way cooler than you. So it wasn't at all. It's just that I had plenty of time when no one wanted to hang out with me in high school, so I could find all the cool stuff just sitting at home watching b was a BedHead listening to Huskard. You were really hip, Will, because they'll think of you as like a hip person, but you were there. You were which ties in with exactly how Rider felt about you when you met, Like, that's the coolest guy I've ever met. Because I think about that where it's like Ryder and I were very different at thirteen and sixteen, So the idea that I was the cool guy in his life is weird. So happy you said, I'm happy, you said. Weird. Writer brought this up and she asked your favorite food. It is the most will answer ever. You could not get more specific if you tried clip nineteen. Poncho punch, Otter Pop. Yeah, thing in the entire world. Are those the blue ones? Yeah? I think the poncho punches were the pinky the pinky ones. I thought we were punch the Otter the blue ras y Otter Pops, whatever that one was. And I remember we we somebody got a box of just the blue ones for us, because at one point and I saved up all the usp whatever the things are in the back and I sent it away and I got an Otter Pop shirt, remember exactly walking in Disneyland one day with my girlfriend at the time, Jill, and all of a sudden, I walked by another guy with an Otter Pop shirt in a sea of people, and we both stopped doing each other. No, I don't know that one's gone one thing did exactly, but I like sounds like a Christmas present and waiting. How much do you love otter pops? You explained clipped one my roommate. Now you m open our freezer and that's how you get and it's seven layers of a hotter pops And if we get below eighty or ninety, we go shopping. Get him on those though. We'll see what you order to thank you. And ye are good food, healthy? You have a real meal? You were living like like Tom Hanks and big Yeah, he totally was. He just totally was popsicles and TV yeah. Um here you were asked the same question, do you want to be an actor for the rest of your life? This is clip twenty one. I don't know now. Since I'm having so much fun, it's such a blast, I would say yes. But you know, if someone asked me that in four or five years, I don't know what i'd say. But until it starts not being fun, oh okay, that was my parents. My parents used to always say to me, do this until it's no longer fun than fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, And now you think it would be fun again, and you're ready to do it again, so I think so. Now it's kind of it's the you know, the little juices are flowing again. So I don't know, it's I don't you know, nobody seems to want to put on anything, but I would be something. I'm also not trying. That's that's that's do you mean nobody's coming knocked on your door. I'd be able to see the producer if they has you tape. You don't even have to go anywhere. I know. Well, she digs a little deeper into future will and asks what type of acting you see yourself doing in the future. I'd like to move on to film, but it rarely happens, you know. Unfortunately, you rarely go from TV to film. And it happened for some people, and that's great, and I'd love it to happen for me. But I'm really not counting on it because it's it's it's a stretch. I'll try. I mean, I'll give it my all, but I'm preparing myself just in case it doesn't happen. Okay, realistic, sir, sir, this is an Arby's really talk about my smoky my my super smoky voice at sixteen. What I want to do is like, jeez, but I do think that there was you were you were right, like back then you could not. Yeah, it was like all knew that. We all knew that by being on TV. Which is part of the reason why I think I wasn't stoked on beating on TV is because I was like, oh, this is defining us. If this show's a hit, we're stuck in television because you could never as an actor. There were movie stars and there were TV actors and none the twenty the same. That's not the same now now it's just anybody's doing everything. You know, No, it's better to do TV if anything. I mean now George Clooney does commercials. He does commercials for God's sakes. Yet yeah, uh, well that's the end for you for now. Danielle, I didn't have any dating ones. You did not have any dating ones in this one. No. Wow. She was like, you couldn't get girls. I'm not even gonna ask. I don't want to embarrass you exactly. Unfortunately, Danielle was not interviewed the first week. I wasn't there. Yeah, but she did do some interviewing herself very early in the show's run. And this first one is with you writer Strong. This is clip clip twenty three. It's recording now all right, Um, hi, I'm Danielle and I'm bringing and Joanna. Interview is glad. It's Strong from Blaney Squirrel. Hello and um all right, let's stet the interview. Okay, okay, real set up. I'm here with writer Strong's just got her first teeth. This is this is where you honed your interview skills. I mean you did. It does seem like this is part of your You're still your thing, you're interviewers. Well, Danielle holds nothing back with her questions, as you could predict, jumping right into something about an upcoming Valentine's Day. And I'm not sure a writer was ready. Here's clip to you consider yourself the mantic East. Can we play it again one more time? You consider yourself romantic? Um? Oh my god, I'm so freaking nervous an interview yourself to be romantic? Wow. Walter is out of nowhere, just him off the top, but he does try his best to respond. Here it is twenty five. I don't know. I can't answer my question. I don't know. I mean, I'm very very passionate when it comes to things about love. I mean, like I take love very serious. When your relationship and stop. Okay, true, true, this is what I was just saying earlier. It was very serious. Danielle does not sense the awkwardness here. You will not let him off, but it keeps it going. With the romance questions, you remember you guys don't know each other super well. Yet it sounds like because this is still like first season and I think you got the job early. So here's more romance clip twenty six. Let's type of personality traits do you think are important for a girl to one your heart? Um? You know, I don't really, I don't really know. It's whatever comes along, you know. I don't have something that I always look before. I mean, I think the most important thing that will attrack me to a girl at first is confidence. You know. I don't know why, but when someone is secure, it's really hard to get through that shell. You know who they are, so I mean, but it's not I don't have like a set standard. I don't know. Well, that's good. A lot of guys do have a set standard and that makes it really hard or I've been ever find the right person, right, that's good. We don't have any standards because if any makes it hard for girls to know how to squeeze them, to have a round peg in a square hole. If you don't have any standards. Oh god, whatever comes along, man. Great, that's how real love sound. Danielle just trying to be like, yeah, not worth it, just take whatever? Why waste time? Oh that's now, this whole run here is so much different because of the podcast. Now that we know that Danielle had a crush on Writer, this next question is truly the best. This is CLI twenty seven. I'm up right before you started, Before you started, Danielle, did you have a crush on Writer at this point? I had a crush on Writer pretty early on. Yeah, like so probably, you know, somewhere during first season. I don't know, right after I just met him, Like definitely getting to no Writer is what made me have a crush on him. But so I don't but you know, I was probably on my way. Okay, I have the answer for you. It's this clip. So if you have an idea of a sweetheart that you'll be felled in the fountains dying, yes, I do. Second year in a row. Oh wow, yeah that's her name, Maren. Oh cool. Yeah, I don't don't believe you. I'm so happy name. She wants to know more about marine. So how long have you guys been together? Almost two years? Why guys celebrating the big two year anniversary? You guys didn't be doing anything special or um, I don't know, I don't think so, you know, I mean every time, every time, like we have Valentine's Day or you know, like our one year anniversary, always just given her like a one single white rose and that's kind of like our symbol of our relationship. But white rose, and like last time Valentine'sday, but on an anniversary, I wrote our story. Oh see, if you could have made a ring, you would have made the ring. Yeah, you didn't know how to smell. Yeah, yeah, you would have Danielle not giving up, Danielle take it away, Clip twenty nine. So how did you two met? Um? Well, we met in the third grade when we were really little, and she came up to me. A friend of hers asked her to ask me if I liked her her friend. So then we didn't see each other for a long time, and then it was I guess two or three years ago when I saw her. Can I just you know, did the whole fong and the love thing. Oh two years since third grade. What I love is that writer and Maureen are the true Corian. Yes, yes, I remember feeling that way, like you were so yeah, like we were together to we were sixty um so yeah. I remember when we broke up Corey and Topanga broke up on Boy Meat's World. I remember being like, oh, there's some parallels here. I don't want you to miss the cool that Danielle hit when she realized how much you're into Maureen. Can you play clip thirty disturbind everyone cool? Cool now? Somewhere in Danielle's disappointment, she figures something out and sees a bit of an opening for herself. This is clip thirty one. Well, you'll be here after this Valentine's Day at work? And how how are you guys going to be celebrating long distance? I'm sure I haven't really thought Rose. Yeah, Rose, somebody else to white Rose. This is Danielle fold. My favorite color is white. Thank you for joining us, Arose. Anyone have ahead of a bunny? Listen? Not all of Danielle's interviews were quite as comfortable. This one here is with Home Improvements Zachary Tye Bryan clip thirty two. So all right, so how are you now pretty good? How about you cool? My god, I need to hear it again because now that you know it, listen to how Danielle is not listening to him. Okay, let's listen to it again. Who all right? So how are you now pretty good? How about you cool? That is an interviewer not listening to her subject. Yeah, I was gonna stay cool the second he needed to Danielle when she walked by. Listening to some of these audios, she did say that, like, um, open audio would always creep you out, like if someone didn't say something unlike now where I feel like when I talk to somebody and I interview them, I have to let their answer like sink in. I have to listen. I blank space meant something's going wrong, something is wrong, there is air, someone needs to be talking, and I usually just learn it's something you have to learn because I do. I still do that if I'm doing an on the phone interview, I don't shut up, right like, I don't stop talking, and I've had to like recognize that, Okay, writer, you can finish, your answer may be done, and then the interviewer can wait a second, and then they'll ask their next question. I just heard my mash Matters podcast. I don't even hear the other two hosts. I just talk for an hour and apologize and then apologize for talking the whole time, Like where literally goes. We didn't even have to be here. Yeah it was. It was ridiculous. So yeah, I did the same thing. They let you out your cage. The cringe does not end there, though. Here's another Valentine's Day special. Here he is with another romantic question with clip thirty three. So if you had to pick just one romantic song to play for the roles we grow out the Feet, which would it be? And why? Okay you pause it Easton, This is insane? Wait, what was what was the question? That's why one? I wanted to make sure if you could play just one song to sweep a girl off her feet, what would it be? And why? Got you let me know how old Zachary tie Bryan is at this point, he's younger than me, so he's he probably he's probably between my age and your age, right, so I'm twelve, he's somewhere between twelve and thirteen. Okay, here's his answer. A lot of songs out there that are really good for um. Basically hit could be romantic. Put him, I would say probably for me. For my fellow music, I'd probably pig Boys Men from him and the song it's called All Meg Love to you figure Yeah, Zach, wow, wow, we need we don't need the description about why you chose that one. You ask that clip thirty four please. I would pick that song because the words and basically what they say, and it's basically relation. Yeah, I've got a relationship and just basically it's romantic. Yeah. Yeah, and a woman share a special kind of hug. That's what it's like, that kind of special hug. And when you say you a little prayer, restoric comes to believe, like a little you there. Easton, Can I one more time here? Danielle's reaction though, Yeah, because it's brilliant. Yeah, give me the end of it. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, hasn't ever even test the boy. There has to be an adult in the room just clinching, so like do I jump in my mom My? Mom's like, oh wow. And it's two kids. You don't know what they're talking about. It. That's the best part of it. It's just two kids are like it's I know, it's a song that's romantic. My mom told me it has the word love it right, love to you? Yeah, so great, all right, I cannot praise I know it is a good track. I cannot praise Danielle enough. As an interviewer on this podcast, She's truly unbelievable. She's thoughtful, She listens, She lets people tell their stories, what's coming. When she was younger, on the other hand, not there yet. She appears many times to ask a question and then just answer it herself. Click thirty five Chef's Kiss. So what is your biggest girl or relationship? Pet peep? Like, I know, for me, I hate it. I hate moody people. You know. It's like, you know, everybody has their bad day. I know, but it's one thing for one minute to be you know, happy, go lucky. In the next minute, be just in this horrible mood or I hate it and asked the hood when guys who can't make it, you know, it's like, oh, so many guys so I can even know. It's like it's like call and o'hayna to pick up the fun you now you hello? All the on looks like you know, I hate it when guys you know that I am, they didn't tell you basically find out that they like, you know, they have to be around the bush for like, you know, days and days and weeks and weeks, and you know, the people ever be like me, people like you. And then finally, you know, once they asked you out, they get all picked in. You know, right, um, what, I'm sorry? What was the question? And then I really can't stand when people just talk and talk and talker. They never let you get a still questioned. Then they really don't even care about what your answer. You care about it the pet peeves about guys Dan y'all? That was like you just kept going. Was that thing were you call? Like call people hang up? I mean, I apparently what's happening? I don't I don't know if that's romantic. I think that's a prank call stockery. Yeah, I don't think that's I don't think someone liked you. There they do the heavy breathing, they tell you they're watching you, and then they hang out. That's the words. Oh my god. All right, last two clips here. This first one is from the end of nineteen ninety six. A little later in the run of boy meats World. The reporter now knows who you are. It's a hit show. I wanted to play this first one. It's a question to Will. The question is do you want to have kids? Clip thirty six. Not to the point where I want to rush anything and get in anything. I mean, I have a long life out of me and I want to I want to you know. Wait, But I loved little kids and I always have and I love making them laugh. I'm playing with little kids, so eventually I'd love to have a kid, you know, a family, bud. That's why if yet like a boy, a girl, or lock of kids, I want to have one of each. I want to have a boy and a girl. Wowow, that's just for the magazine. I knew you're a man. It would have been funny. You're like, nah, I hate them kids. No. No. When I was young, I did. I wanted to have kids, and I knew i'd be a great parent because I have great parents. But it just wasn't for me. I live a very selfish lifestyle. My wife and I are relationship is just about us. We'd love that and we're good with that. You wouldn't have a stepdaughter who's gay, and you don't want to share otter pops. You don't share otter pops. Come on, man, no touching my toys and everything would be weird. Lastly, I found a very sweet clip. I like this one very much, to be honest. It even gave me like a little bit of a tear. It was very nice. This is Will in nineteen ninety six, when asked if any of the cast members have changed since the start of the show, and now that it's popular and it weirdly is an answer you could still say today clip thirty seven. You know, we're we're growing up and we're growing up together, which I think is an interesting contract. So you know, when you grew up, it's like with brothers, you know, you don't notice the change. I look at my brothers now, and you know, I've one Wos twenty seven and one who's twenty four, and then myself. But I look at them and I still see us playing with you know, Star Wars and g I Joe, because you don't, you don't notice the change. And we've all just grow up with such a tight unit on the show that we're just together and we know we will be, you know, forever, even if the show ends, We're going to be talking to each other for a long time. That crazy, that's so cool. Well, if anyone else buys tapes of our host talking on eBay, I will go through them for hours. I will pull clips. I also want to go on record. I have clips that will be used in future episodes. So there are some guest stars who come in. There are some other little things here there the Disneyland episode, Disney World episode, she ends up in Florida with you guys, so I have clips from that as well. She's always the same interviewer, well unless it's the incredible Daniel Fisher. But yeah, I'd just like to say thank you Producer Jensen, husband of this podcast for going through all the stuff. Thanks to a listening to everything and pulling all this stuff. We super appreciate. That's very cool. I ran around the room. I didn't even get to the answer. When she said do you want to have kids? I literally went, this is gold. But it was super fun and again it shows you, guys. I really think like someone who's behind the scenes for every episode, it's like this is you. It's been you from the beginning. I think that when people come on and call you Sacharin and say, like, you know, they were innocent, and you know, we didn't even know if it was real. We thought maybe you were, you know, pulling a fast one on us, and were these kids. I mean, you're the same people now. It's it's incredible to hear it, you know, proven sound funny. Yeah, well, what a good time. I'll go back to never talking again. Byeen Car, husband of this podcast. Wow. Oh well, so I guess we don't change as much, We don't grow as much as we think. I would disagree. I think you said it right the first time. We don't change as much, but I think we grow. Yeah, And I think those are two different things, because I think we've all grown from who we were when we were kids, but at our core. And I think a lot of that is how you're raised. You know, you have that core belief kind of instilled in you, and you either embrace it or you you know, push it away and you become somebody completely different. And I don't think any of us really did that. Yeah, but I think I think it goes. I think what we're talking about really is the age old question of nature versus nurture, And what I find really interesting is that even at such a young age, some of the qualities we just heard in ourselves never left us and like we've just had kind of forever um, so asking questions and like I know it was just for you know, sixteen magazine Danielle's Diary, but I always found it really fascinating to like, so, what do you want to do this year? And so what are you what are you thinking about it? And just like learning about somebody always was really interesting to me and question and then to hearing myself talk what do you want to do this year? Here's what I'm doing, But it is it's fun for me to think about, like with my own children and with Indie, um, how much of the things that they love or that they are already are going to be the exact same things they say thirty years from now. Right, Well, that's right, I'm on tag. I know. I try to record India every chance I get, and I I was playing him clips, just audio clips from when he was like three the other day and it was a star singing Michael Jackson, and we were talking about the song and the lyrics and it's like, yeah, it's so good to have you just want to you got to capture as much of how do you do it? Like? What are you recording him on my phone? Like you just use voice memos on your phone. It's actually pretty good quality just on its own. You know, you haven't need a microphone. I have a portable mic that I've used sometimes, and I've been doing it with my parents too, Like if we go to visit my parents, Um, I sit down with Indie and and we just have a conversation. I try and record their stories too, because I find audios so much better because you know, when there's a camera in somebody's face, yeah, yeah, it's you know. And camera used to work for Indie up until probably five or six, and then it was Indie's aware of what it's doing and he's seeing clips himself. But audio you forget it's there or you're just more relaxed. So yeah, so cool. Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode of pod Meats World that has always You can follow us on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can email us Podmeats World Show at gmail dot com and we have merch merch ryt have pod Meats Worldshow dot com and we will see you all next time. Writer, send us out. We love you all, pod dismissed. Podmeats World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel, Will Fernell and Ryder Strong executive producers, Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tara Suitbox producer, Jackie Rodriguez, engineer and Boy Meets World superfan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. 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