Trump Says China Deal Possible; NYC Congestion Pricing Heads to Court

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On today's podcast:

1) Trump Says New China Trade Deal ‘Possible’ Despite Tensions President Donald Trump said it would be possible to reach a fresh trade deal with China, signaling he is open to heading off a brewing trade fight between Washington and Beijing.

2) Trump Turns on Zelenskiy, Leaving Ukraine Few Options Amid War Donald Trump’s turn against Volodymyr Zelenskiy leaves Ukraine no good alternatives as it heads into the fourth year of Russia’s full-scale invasion.

3) Trump to Halt NY Congestion Pricing by Terminating Approval The Trump administration is moving to block New York City’s congestion pricing program, reversing a federal approval granted last year and setting up a legal showdown over the tolling initiative.

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Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:10.799 Good morning. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.680 I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.160 stories we're following today. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.280 Karen, we begin with a possible easing of tensions between 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.640 the US and China. President Trump says a new trade 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:25.040 deal with China as possible, weeks after he imposed tariffs 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.000 on the country's imports. Speaking to reporters on Air Force One, 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.960 the President praised China's sshijinping. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.440 It's possible, but well, we did a great trade deal 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:33.960 with China. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:34.440 We did it. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.640 Great for the farmers, great for manufacturers. They had it 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.280 by fifty billion dollars worth of our product, and we 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.120 were making them by it. The problem is that Biden 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.159 didn't push them to it. Here to it. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.480 President Trump didn't outline the parameters of a potential deal. 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.199 Any agreement would face significant obstacles. His comments come a 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:56.040 day after he hinted at new global tariffs on cars, semiconductor, 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:57.600 and pharmaceutical imports. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.040 Well, Nathan, President Trump appears to be earning further against 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.480 Ukrainian President Vladimir Zolensky. First, the President did not invite 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:09.040 the Ukraine to negotiations with Russia. On ending the war. Now, 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:12.360 Trump is calling Zelenski a dictator without elections after the 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.480 Ukrainian leader accused him of falling for Russian propaganda. The 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.520 president has heard here on Bloomberg Radio, discussed the war 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.560 at the Future Investment Initiative summit in Miami. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:26.160 Europe has failed to bring peace, and Zolensky probably wants to. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.400 Maybe he wants to keep the gravy train going. I 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.360 don't know what's the problem, but he hasn't been able. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.080 He's very upset that he wasn't invited. He could have 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.240 come if he wanted to, but that he wasn't invited 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.520 to Saudi Arabia. But he's been working for three years, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.199 has never been even meeting so phone calls to stop 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.760 this war. It's a horrible thing. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.960 President Trump's turn against Zelensky leaves Ukraine with limited options. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.320 He could keep fighting with assistants from Europe, or he 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.480 could accept whatever deal Trump might make with Russian President 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:53.400 Vladimir Putin. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.639 Well Karen. President Trump is also defending his government cost 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.360 cutting effort at that Miami summit. He says some of 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.200 the doges savings could be passed the taxpayers. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.280 There's even under consideration a new concept where we give 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.000 twenty percent of the DOGE savings to American citizens and 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.239 twenty percent goes to paying down debt. Because the numbers 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:14.600 are incredible. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.959 They're a President Trump's DOAGE team has claimed fifty five 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.400 billion dollars in savings so far, its website only accounts 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.399 for about eight point six billion. A twenty percent dividend 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.880 on that total would amount to about eleven dollars per taxpayer. 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.880 Well, Nathan, the DOGE team can now add overhauling government 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.119 regulations to its cost cutting drive. President Trump has signed 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.320 an executive order for all agencies to review their rules 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.560 and make sure the align with the administration's policies and 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.200 the DOGE effort. The President also signed a directive eliminating 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.960 or minimizing a dozen federal agencies, including advisory Councils on 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:52.000 community banks and credit unions, long COVID health equity, and 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.880 Voluntary Foreign Aid, and he signed an executive action aimed 0:02:55.880 --> 0:03:00.600 at ensuring taxpayer money does not support undocumented migrants or 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:02.280 encourage illegal immigration. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.160 Looking at geopolitics now, Karen, Secretary of State Marco Rubio 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.280 is skipping the Group of Twenty Foreign Ministers meeting in Johannesburg. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:14.200 The move comes after Rubio criticized Hosts South Africa's policies 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.600 as anti American. We get more from Bloomberg's antony squads 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:18.760 and in Johannesburg. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.760 I think it's a huge BOQ twenties gathering of the 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:25.560 world's biggest economies, and the US's the biggest economy. So 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.120 it does mean that whatever's achieved, if it's without the 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.040 US will be less meaningful. It puts it afterod of. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.880 Composition Bloomberg's antony squads, and also reports that Treasury Secretary 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.200 Scott Bessant is not going to be traveling to the 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.120 Group of twenty Finance ministers meeting in South Africa next week. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.080 Speaking of the Treasury Secretary, we invite you to join 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.520 us at seven am Wall Street time when Scott Bessant 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:50.040 speaks live with Bloomberg Surveillance. You can catch that conversation 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.480 here on Bloomberg Radio and on the Bloomberg Podcasts YouTube page. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.320 Well, Nathan is now headed to the courts. Moments after 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.880 the Trump administration said it plans to block New York 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.960 City's congestion pricing program, the MTA filed a lawsuit in 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.480 federal court. Here's New York Governor Kathy Hogel and remarks 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.480 carried live here on Bloomberg word fight mode. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:16.080 Within seconds of us getting this notification, our MTA was prepared. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.680 We knew this could come foul. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:19.840 The lawsuit within minutes. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.800 I'm very confident will be successful. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:25.200 And I also want to say. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.160 The cameras are staying on in. 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:30.480 Governor Kathy Hogel says the toll program will continue while 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.719 the lawsuit plays out. The congestion pricing plan charges a 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.640 nine dollars toll on most vehicles entering Manhattan neighborhoods south 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:38.479 of Central Park. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.200 Well congestion tolling's not the only thing remaining uncertain this morning. 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.440 In New York, Karen So is Mayor Eric adams political future. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.880 US District Judge Dale Hoe has yet to rule on 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.479 the Justice Department's fight to end Adam's corruption case. The 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.520 judge heard arguments from Adam's lawyer and a DOJ official 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.120 to determine whether to sign off on the dismissal and 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.799 met with opposition from Adam's political opponents and other groups. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.680 Adams was indicted in September on charges of bribery, fraud, 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:12.159 soliciting illegal foreign campaign contributions. New York Governor Kathy Hochel 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.280 has stated she's going to see what the judge decides 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:18.360 before she makes any decisions on removing Adams from office. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.760 We turn to the markets now, Nathan and stocks once 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.760 again begin the day in record territory. However, the four 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.400 and a half percent rally in the S and P 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.440 five hundred this year may not last long. That's according 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.520 to strategists at City Group. The firm sees more near 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.679 intermediate term downside risk rather than potential for an advance 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.479 from Trump's policy effects. They believe investors are not yet 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.960 pricing in policy disruptions to fundamentals. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.800 And this morning, Karen, we get earnings from the nation's 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.480 largest retailer and biggest private sector employer. Bloomberg's Tom Busby 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:50.279 has more. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:54.080 Walmart expected to report strong sales during the holiday quarter 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.320 as consumer spending rows by more than expected in December. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.840 Key for investors, though it's full year projection for sales 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.320 and profit in light of President Trump's tariffs and the 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.480 threats of even more levies on imports. Also interest rates 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.159 that will likely remain around seven percent for some time. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.160 Bloomberg consensus calls for revenue of one hundred and eighty 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.599 point twenty one billion dollars earnings per share of sixty 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.400 five cents. Tom buzzby Bloomberg Radio. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.279 All right, Tom, thank you all. Another stockwerre watching this 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:25.320 morning is Pallenteer. Those sharers, they're down one point four 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.919 percent right now. The drought follows a rapport that Defense 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.240 Secretary Pete Hegseth plans to slash military spending. Pallenteer, which 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.800 is seen at stock Sewer by almost fifty percent this year, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:41.360 is a major US defense contractor. Time now for a 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.039 look at some of the other stories making news in 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:44.640 New York and around the world. And for that we're 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.320 joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. John, Good morning, and. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.080 Good morning, Karen Hamas handed to the Red Cross the 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.040 remains of four Israelis it had taken hostage in October 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.160 of twenty twenty three. The remains were of a young mother, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.640 her two small children, ages four and nine nine months, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.600 and a man at his eighties. This return comes as 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.680 the shaky Ganza truce stumbles ahead. The bodies are the 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.720 first to be delivered through negotiations since the war started. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.200 President Troup maybe edging closer to being able to fire 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.560 Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell. Let's get that story this 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.440 morning from Bloomberg's Genas Cervetti. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:23.080 Bloomberg Intelligence says the Federal Reserve Act requires cause for 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.280 the President to oust Jerome Powell as a Federal Reserve 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.720 Board member, but there's a good chance that the four 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.840 cause removal restriction will be held unconstitutional for intruding on 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.560 the President's executive authority. The statute says board member shall 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.480 serve fourteen year terms unless removed before that four cause 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.680 by the US President. The Bloomberg analysis goes on to 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.040 say four cause in this context is generally thought to 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.840 mean inefficiency, neglect, or malfeasance. The statute, however, articulates no 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.000 such restriction for chairs or vice chairs of the Fed Board. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.960 Genas Cervetti Bloomberg Radio. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.120 Delta Airlines is offering thirty thousand dollars passenger board that 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.560 regional jet that came to rest upside down after a 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.160 crash landing at Toronto Airport earlier this week. A Delta 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.360 spokesman says the payments are a good faith gesture that 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.920 have no strings attached and does not affect rights. Two 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.560 people are dead after two small planes hid in midair 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.680 north of Tucson, Arizona, yesterday. Little appears to remain one 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.640 of the aircraft expect to accept a burned wreckage on 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.600 the desert floor. One of the planes was able to land. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.240 The NTSB and FAA are on their way to the 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.520 scene to investigate, and the Vatican says this morning, Pope 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.080 Francis is continuing his recovery from pneumonia, eating breakfast in 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.680 bed after a sixth night in the hospital. New blood 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.600 tests showed a slight improvement in some inflammation for the 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.800 eighty eight year old Pontiff Global News twenty four hours 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.160 a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:50.440 Now. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.720 I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:09:01.000 Karen all right, John, thank you time Enberg Sports update 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.400 brought to you by Tri State OUTI. Here's John Stashauer, John, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:05.160 good morning. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.920 Good morning, Daron. That went for the red storm of 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.040 Saint John's. This one no surprise at DePaul forty one 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.760 points at each half and eighty two to fifty eight victory. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.560 Kadari Richmond seventeen points, nine rebounds, five assists. Saint John's 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.679 goes to fourteen and two of the Big East Big 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:22.080 Game Sunday with Yukon at the Garden, where tonight it's 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.200 the Knicks and the Chicago Bulls were actually two to 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.839 zero against the next This season, NBA returned with the 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.600 game last night. It was a makeup in LA from 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.360 a postponement due to the fires and an upset. Charlotte 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.840 beat the Lakers and Lebron James did play despite that 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.800 injury and ankle, but Luka Doncic struggled, shot five of eighteen, 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.480 one of nine on three pointers, had six turnovers. Hockey 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.960 tonight in Boston, US and Canada and the Four Nations 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.080 faceoff final. Remember what happened between the two teams just 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.120 after the opening faceoff last Saturday in Montreal. Three fights 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.920 in the first nine seconds. The Rangers J. T. Miller 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.360 was in one of them. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.280 After set the tell them if you let those guys 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.000 come out with David flying around to start the game, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.440 I think Kennon flying around like you know, that could 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.680 become a contagious and infectious thing in that building. So 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.160 I just think that, you know, last game was a 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.640 such a unique start because we knew we have to 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.440 set the tone in the game and have our presence 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.520 in the game. You know it's different this time around, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.319 but in a sense of intensity that won't change. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.360 It sounds late that the Chuck brothers will both play 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.160 despite injuries in the US without defense. But Charlie mckiboy 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.360 the Long Island Day have hurt his shoulder and then 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.440 developed an infection, and his NHL team to Bruins said 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.800 to be unhappy with the treatment he got, and Yankee 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.719 camps starting Pittrick Clark Schmidt dealing with back pain. They 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.600 may need Marcus Strowman after all, at least to start 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:37.960 the season. They played soccer last night in Kansas City 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.480 and below zero temperatures into Miami Top Sporting and KC 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.120 in a Champions Cup Game one. Neil Lionel Messi scored 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.840 the goal. They postponed the game Tuesday through the snow. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.560 A night later, they set a record the coldest ever 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.199 in LS game. John Stashenwer Bloomberg Sports Canada, NY. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.920 Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide, on Serious Exam 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.960 and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.120 Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:10.520 Good Morning, I'm Nathan Hager. President Trump's relations with Ukrainian 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.000 President Voladimir Zelensky may have hit a new loan. After 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.200 sidelining Ukraine from talks with Russia to end the war. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:21.240 The President is now describing Zelenski this way at a 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.559 Saudi investment conference in Miami. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.600 A dictator without elections. Zelensky better move fast, or he's 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.480 not going to have a country left. Got to move 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:33.120 gotta move fast, because that war's going in the wrong direction. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.920 In the meantime, we're successfully negotiating an end to the 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:38.480 war with Russia. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.280 President Trump spoke at the Future Investment Initiative Summit, as 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.079 heard here on Bloomberg Radio. From More, we are joined 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.040 by Jennifer Lawless, professor and politics chair at the University 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.280 of Virginia. Jennifer, it's great to have you back with 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.040 us on Bloomberg Daybreak. I wonder what you make of 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.800 this rhetorical shift from the President when it comes to 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.800 Ukraine's leader, what it means for the war in Ukraine. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.679 Good morning, Good morning. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.000 Well, I think that Donald Trump caught a lot of 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.520 people by surprise with those remarks, not only because he's 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.680 been negotiating it into the war with Russia and has 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.880 not involved Ukraine at all in these negotiations, But also 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.960 because of the way he's characterized Zelensky as a dictator 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.319 and stated that Ukraine started the war in the first place, 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:27.439 which is obviously not true. It's very difficult for Republicans 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.199 to back up this kind of logic. It's one thing 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.280 for them to say that they no longer support aid 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.960 to Ukraine, it's another to embrace an alternative reality, and 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.440 he's putting them in a tricky position. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:43.719 Aside from the potential reaction from Republican leaders in Washington, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.760 what's the political impact potentially for the president to take 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:52.120 this stand when it comes to Ukraine with American voters. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.800 I'd say it's a difficult position with the voters as well, 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.720 for a couple of reasons. The first is that anybody 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.920 who's been paying attention and remember the initial footage coming 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:06.400 out of Ukraine was incredibly compelling, and it demonstrated Russia 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.400 just going in there and uprooting people. They're being asked 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.320 to suspend reality. They're also being asked to embrace a 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.480 US foreign policy that puts the United States on the 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.360 opposite side of its allies, and I think Mike Pence 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.160 actually came out yesterday and summed it up quite well 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.640 when he said that this just flies in the face 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.719 of what the American people know happened and what they 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:29.760 know is the right thing to do. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.040 Aside from Mike Pence, it seems like Republicans for the 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:36.680 most part have been rallying behind President Trump in terms 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:41.040 of domestic politics, support for his cabinet nominees, that sort 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.880 of thing. You mentioned that this could lead to cracks 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:48.679 for Republicans when it comes to support for Ukraine. But 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.880 where do you see it going in terms of how 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:56.160 Republicans could continue to react to what they are hearing 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:56.960 from the president. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.280 There's little to suggest that the Republicans are we to 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.720 hold the President's accountable for anything he says. So my 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.320 hunch is that several of them will say that they 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.559 don't have this shared conception of how the war began, 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.000 that they don't necessarily agree that Zelenski is a dictator, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.200 but that none of this matters because at the end 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.320 of the day, this war has to end and Donald 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.680 Trump is going to help end it. And that's consistent 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.600 with the way they've handled a lot of domestic policy arguments. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.920 As well. They don't necessarily think Rfk is the best 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.960 person to run HHS. They have concerns about Pete Hegseth's background, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.200 but at the end of the day, they believe in 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.280 the overall mission and they supported the president for that reason. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:37.520 In the time we have left, Jennifer, I wanted to 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.600 get your take as well on what we're seeing from 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.880 the DOJE effort, the cost cutting in Washington, d c. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.640 And now this idea that the president's floating of a 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.400 DOGE dividend twenty percent of the savings potentially, he says 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.360 could go to tax payers. Is the President trying to 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.360 make these cuts more politically palatable. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.920 He's literally trying to buy the support of the America 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.520 people with Elon Musk, And this wouldn't be the first 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.680 time they did this, or they tried to do this 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.560 during the campaign. What I will say is that there's 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:12.240 not much evidence that there's been actual savings. So if 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:16.280 these dividend checks are issued, it's unclear where that money 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.040 is coming from. It might be coming, for example, from 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.760 the Medicaid cuts that the President said he would not support, 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.040 that he just supported in the budget. So there's a 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.480 fixed amount of money and there's no evidence to suggest 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.680 that it's coming from government efficiency cuts, So issuing those 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.160 checks are going to be a real cost to the 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:35.920 American people. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.080 Just thirty seconds left. It's been a difficult process for 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.880 federal workers certainly, But do you see support from the 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.240 American people for this cost cutting effort. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.520 I think they'll support the cost cutting effort until they 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.360 realize some of the implications of these other policy cuts 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.040 that have happened. So in the abstract, everybody supports cutting 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:02.200 federal workers, everybody supports more government efficiency. 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