The One Where Lala Gets Real About Childbirth and Pregnancy

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Speaker 1: Hey, babes, it is Lala Kent with my writer Die Jessica again.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, it's me again.

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Speaker 1: Yay, welcome to the Give Them Lala Podcast. Last night's episode, let's just get into it, you guys.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet, so Lala, I need to know what to.

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Speaker 1: Expect, what to expect. There's a party for Charlie. Okay, they are trying to get her food issues to go away, which, let me be very very clear on this. We'll obviously discuss this at the reunion. But when I learned about Charlie's food issues, there was no context behind them. It was just kind of you know what she said last year or two years ago, I don't eat pasta because I have a theory that it makes you gain weight. Right, that was all I knew about it. I was like, Okay, that seems strange. Don't get it then, is you? You know, as we've heard her talk about, you know, her childhood trauma, it all makes so much sense, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't invited to that party where everyone else was, and they all brought different food for her to try.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you weren't invited?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 1: No? I was like an outsider. Oh you know, this season was so strange for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just because I was a brand new mom. You know, I work really hard in my program. And that's not to say that I don't have these like issues that I still need to work on, because I definitely do. But you know, AA is not just to stop drinking. It's to really get down to the root of all of your issues and really just become a better human being. Granted, when you become sober, you don't become Jesus and start walking on water and turning the other cheek and becoming this like, oh my gosh, incredible person. We're human beings. We make mistakes, and the problem is is I this season was having to pay for mistakes that I felt I had already paid for. Yeah, if that makes sense, that does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And perceptions are real, bitch, because the way I see things is not going to be the same as Sina seeing things, or Ariana or sand of all. So it's really the root of how things go badly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you watch this season so far and watched last night's episode and saw the party happening with you not invited, do you feel a different way now than you did when it was happening, or do you feel how do you feel about it.

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Speaker 1: When it was happening. I was really trying to like put it to the side because I didn't want to bring that energy home to ocean. Yeah, but at this point in my life watching a bag, I have much bigger fish to fry, right, you know, right, Yes, I take it one minute at a time, because you know, a seven month old can't sit around and wait for you to get over shit.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you better keep your fucking head up and do your thing. Yeah, So that's what I do.

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Speaker 2: And that's sort of what I was talking about when I said last week, like the most inspiring soldiering through, let's keep going with the day. It's incredible. And I know you're dealing with a lot, but you also have a lot of us who support you and love you and ride or die for you. And I think you have moments where you feel that and I love to see those moments.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I just never thought that my life would be where it is right now, you know, And that's okay, Yeah, that's totally fine. And there's moments where I have pits in my stomach and I'm like, I need God to take over right now because it's too much, and he does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, this is a new chapter. It's like I've heard you say it multiple times before with your last book, give them La La. You're like, I feel like I've lived a thousand lifetimes since that book came out, and look at this. It's almost like I'm witnessing you literally step into a new chapter.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because I look back on that book and you know, I was digging into stories from the time I was like a child too, when my dad died, through my drinking and what led me to get sober, and I'm like, this feels like I don't recognize the person that I'm writing about. Yeah, isn't that strange?

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Speaker 2: That's so strange. But it's so do you look at your life because I do as sort of chapters like to me, you saying that you look back on that book and you're like, whoa, what was that life like? To me, it was like a completely different literal chapter.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just always look at life as like chapters and like, oh my god, chapter six was wild. Yeah, you know, like I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, I look at it that way. Yeah, I for sure look at it as chapters and you have to be grateful for every experience because you know what I've been through in my life, which people have been through much crazier and traumatic things than I have been through. Those people inspire me, who deal with things with grace and they they come out on top even with the hand they were dealt for me. I look at it and I'm like, I would never have ocean, you know, like this independence that I have wouldn't be here. Yeah, it just feels amazing, Like, yes, I have moments, but I will say I feel so hopeful and happy.

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Speaker 2: I love that. That's amazing. That's I mean, I see it like it's it's incredible, hopeful, happy and how great it is to say. Not everyone can say this wala. Not everyone can say wow. I look back at that chapter of my life or look back at the book and I don't even really recognize that person. That means you're growing, you're growing, you're changing. It's like it's all you know, it's all over the place. I see memes about you know, you've changed. Well, thank god I have. I'm not supposed to be the same person. That means you're listening you're learning, you're educating yourself, you're allowing yourself to grow, which some people never do.

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Speaker 1: Some people never do.

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Speaker 2: And they're stuck in their same ways and they can look back at something they did ten years ago and be like, yep, that was me. I'm the same God. No, Like, that's just not you.

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Speaker 1: That's true. And I feel like if anyone doesn't want if anyone doesn't fit into your evolution, and if your evolution involves you being happy or healthy, and there are a lot of pluses to the changes you've made, and people don't fit into that anymore, not my issue. I'm burning the bridge.

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Speaker 2: I love that burn the bridge, and.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if I end up with three people around me, because you know they're real. If you're a quality person, that to me trumps the quantity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't need a million friends. I need my mom, I need you. Oh yay, you know my family obviously those are a given. Yeah, and my husband's.

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Speaker 2: Love the husbands. Yeah, shout out load.

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Speaker 1: I love you. Well.

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Speaker 2: I think that's incredible. And I think just like I mean, even from the person that I met what is it now, six months ago? Yeah, you have like like I watch you and I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing. I am learning at so many things right before my eyes, and it's really it's really inspiring.

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Speaker 1: You're the best, jess I always like I I've told you this before. At night, Jessica and her boyfriend Kyle have been added to my prayers. And I don't pray for many, you know, I tell God just like, be with those who need you. Whatever you take from that, God is what you take from it. But it's like, right now, that's the only thing I can lean on, is like a higher power.

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Speaker 2: Higher power and prayer and Ocean and Laala are in my prayers every night. And my mom and dad now pray for Ocean, Laala and Lisa.

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Speaker 1: Love Mama and Papa Walter. That's I'm sure love them.

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Speaker 3: Just shout out Amy and Jake.

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Speaker 1: So with all of that being said, I'm excited for today's podcast because last week it was a Mommy podcast. Britt was on Yeah, and after the podcast my writer died. Jessica was like, I have so many questions about childbirth, you guys.

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Speaker 2: I have so many questions. And here's the thing. I have a lot of friends and family who have had babies, but they seem to only talk about the beautiful part. And let's be honest, we know having a baby is miraculous. It's beautiful, but there are some gnarly aspects.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So, so Jessica is going to ask us all of the fun and yummy questions about childbirth. And I'm also going to have my mom weigh in because her birthing experience with me was not great. It was actually very traumatic. So when we come back, Jessica's going to ask us questions, my Mom's going to weigh in. I'm so excited. We'll be right back. We are back and we are talking about all things yummy with childbirth. Obviously, can I tell you something just yeah, my mom will say the same thing. After I gave birth to Ocean. Like during my labor, which I had a very easy labor, there were I have a low pain tolerance, so there were moments where I was like, this is hard. Why did no one warn me? And then after I gave birth, I was like, this is why no one warns you? Because you literally forget, yeah, about anything that was traumatic or hard. It just kind of like leaves your memory.

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Speaker 2: That's what I figured, And like I said, I know childbirth is beautiful, but what I think happens is like, here's the thing. I won't talk to my pregnant friends about these things because I've tried before and I can see it filling their head with thoughts and anxiety. But then once they have the baby, it's like I ask these questions and it's almost like no pain ever existed, no gross things ever exist, because like, you have a human now, so all of that just goes away, right, yeah, but I've got question.

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Speaker 1: All right, ask away. Let's get it pop in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have a list, ladies and gentlemen, Lisa, please say hi to everyone.

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Speaker 3: Hello, everyone, good morning.

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Speaker 2: I love Lisa. Lisa's iconic. She's gigie.

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Speaker 1: We know. She see your face and she said good morning. She looked like, what if people listen and it's not morning. Okay, it's okay, mama. They got it, they get it.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I'm going to ask all the questions, Lisa. If you don't feel comfortable answering some, then you don't have to. But you know what you guys, Lisa is an open book like her daughter Laala, So I feel like we won't have that problem.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that I'm a totally open book. So here we go, Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to start with an easy one. This is a very easy one, but I'm curious about it. Sickness. Okay, so some I want to know about morning sick night sickness. I have this fear of throwing up. I hate throwing up. So the thought of becoming pregnant, Like, what happens. You become pregnant, and then weeks in you get sick in the morning, you get sick at night. Does it only last for a couple of weeks? What's the deal?

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Speaker 4: So with my experience, I was sick from the get go with Lauren. I got sick in the morning and at night. And I literally this is so gross, But I was driving to work one morning literally threw up in my lap. Yes, yes, very gnarly.

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Speaker 1: How long did it last?

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Speaker 3: Mom? About three months? Three months? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't you just being nauseated, You like actually tossed your cookies often, often.

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Speaker 3: At work, in the car at home.

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Speaker 1: Great, did you go to work with vomit all over yourself?

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Speaker 4: Well, on that particular day, I had obviously to turn around and go home and change, But yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was something you mean that people didn't want you to perform, to work with vomit in your lap on them or in my teeth, yummy, if you asked for it, Jess with Ocean, I was nauseated and I couldn't stomach a lot of things. But I actually only threw up twice, like actually, but the nausea I felt was like all day long. Really yeah, it really was.

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Speaker 3: And you know what else got me? Smells?

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Speaker 4: Oh, the smellmells were horrific, you know it just anything would trigger me, Like I went. I remember going to subway one day and I walked in the door and I immediately had to leave because I just the combination of the smells got to me.

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Speaker 1: Which is so strange because I walk into a subway and I'm like, ooh, I can smell all sorts of things. What do I order?

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Speaker 3: And now me and meatball subs are best friends.

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Speaker 1: Best friends. We've had one about every day this week. Thank you Subway. Same smells God to me too. But again, it only lasted three months and then and then it goes away. It just one day you wake up and you're not sick anymore. Britney was sick, morning, noon, and night until she gave birth.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, like throwing up.

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Speaker 1: Sick, vomiting all night long and all day. Like we could never get together. It was okay because granted we were in COVID, so we shouldn't have been getting together anyway. Like that was it was like, okay, I'm okay with this because we can't get together anyway. Yeah, but yeah, she had a really tough pregnancy. But after three months I was digging it really. Oh my gosh. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So then this leads me to cravings again. And not the most exciting question you guys, but I need to know this because I crave sweets all the time. Like do your cravings stay the same but they just elevate or are they completely different?

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Speaker 1: I like this question, Mom, what did you crave? Do you remember?

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember craving anything. I think it was more trying to find something that sounded.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're so on the same page. I was so excited when I got pregnant because whether people want to believe this or not, I have a huge appetite, Like I am a snacker. I love food. But then I got pregnant and I was so excited. I'm like, I can eat whatever I want. I don't even care. And nothing sounded good except sushi and chocolate cake. And when you're pregnant, your doctor will tell you, like, I wouldn't have sushi, so I didn't. Yeah, but like nothing even perrier didn't sound good. Shocker, shocked and shook to my core about that. Wow, I know nothing sounded good really, And even like you hear about people wanting pickles and things like that, yeah, I don't want to pickle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, never wanted to pickle. That was never never anything I thought about.

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Speaker 1: Lisa wanted a different kind of pickle.

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Speaker 2: And on that note, these are this is one of the questions you guys, I'm just gonna be jumping around so horniness. I have heard that that some pregnant women are completely disgusted by sex the entire time. And I'm saying I've heard that from friends. Okay, other women it's the horniest they've ever been, they can't stop, and other women it comes and goes in phases. So do you care to speak on that, either one of you?

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Speaker 4: So mine was just do I want to hear that day on? So I was just never never got hornier or didn't want it. It was just even kill for me. So I wasn't affected either way.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't it was even killed. I just needed it twice a day like I always do, and I'm good, look at her, noddy her hand.

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Speaker 3: You know what you're gonna die.

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Speaker 4: But when I started showing, like five six months, my husband was kind of like, not really.

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Speaker 3: I think he felt like it was kind.

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Speaker 1: Of like his peepee was going to hit your kids in the face. Yes, yes, I've Yeah, that's really common because like when I went into my obie, he would stick his fingers up there and be like, I feel the head and I'm like, oh, no, wonder you know men are like, I don't want to put my peepe up there. If you don't want your child's first thing to touch them be that.

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Speaker 2: Wait stop really the fingers thing? So yes, zenus penises could touch Oh my god, Well, depending on who you are, could touch the baby. Yeah, did you speak on your horniness?

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Speaker 1: Were you at five months? I would look at the corner of a couch and be like that put it underneath me. I need to sit on it. I need to maneuver on it. That is turning me on. I was beyond torny it five months. Really, it's all I thought about.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's so different.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know had my little handy dandy fingers. We love the job done.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask this to Lisa. Lisa, how many times did you have sex per week, per month when you were pregnant?

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you're asking a woman that delivered thirty one years ago.

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Speaker 3: Let me think about this.

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Speaker 1: You're a freak. Tell us we.

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Speaker 4: Were probably on the norm two to three times a week.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god on the north.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that norm? Kyle? You hear that.

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Speaker 2: We gotta step it up a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit, Okabe?

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Speaker 1: No, I know, I know you, Lisa love it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then you guys, like I said, I'm gonna jump all over the place. I need to know about nipples because let me tell you something right now. A few weeks ago, Laala just casually mentioned that nipples change when you get pregnant, and I audibly gasped, because what do you mean? What do you mean? Well?

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Speaker 1: I may or may not have shown Jessica, because I was like, you have to see, this had to have been a little bit ago. It was like you had just been hired, But my nipples got so big and so dark, and like the areola part, like not the actual nipple that stayed the same, but the areola was like a giant melted Hershey's kiss me.

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, not so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lisa has the tiniest nipples you'll ever see, Nile so Jesse. You guys know, we have like this makeshift setup for the podcast and Lisa and Jessica to share a mic, So if you hear one of them in the distance, just know we're gonna pull our shit together at some point. But a lot of things are changing, so just roll with it for a minute.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: So there's that on nipples. But I love darker nipples. Yeah. So I when my nipples got dark, I was like, oh, they're so cute.

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Speaker 2: Are they little dark?

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Speaker 1: No, they're back to normal. But it's a real thing. Yeah, when women say like, my baby sucked the life out of my boobs, it's a real thing.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I look at my boobs and I'm like, they used to be so cute and perky and like fake, and now they're like sad balloons.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know that's another thing talking about nursing, Like I tried to nurse Lauren for I wanted to do it at least six months, but I didn't have the milk supply and Lauren, on the other hand, was just producing, producing, producing machine. I had to supplement with bottles, but I.

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Speaker 1: Didn't because of my mom telling me like it was difficult for her to nurse. I and I've said this before, was not married to the idea of nursing. I always thought like, nursing is a privilege. Even if you want to do it, you may not be able to. And that's why it always bothers me when people would ask me, are you going to It's like, well, I hope, but that's sometimes not an option. You don't know how much milk you'll produce. You don't know if your baby will latch. And I wanted to be no, like, your baby lived inside of you for nine months. Whether it's on the boob or on a bottle, you're bonded. It doesn't matter exactly. You know.

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Speaker 2: That's a great yeah, my mom. I know my mom tried to nurse. There's five of us siblings. My mom tried to nurse most of us, but I think two of us didn't take And you know.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely cheaper if you're able to nurse, if you're oh really, oh yeah, you don't have to pay for that. It just comes through the boobies.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Lauren had she was very colicky, so I had to when I supplemented her, I had to buy a formula and it was fifteen dollars a can. And this is thirty one years ago, like fifteen dollars. I don't even know what it is now.

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Speaker 3: It was called.

00:21:43
Speaker 1: I thought it was new New trimmin or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. I saw it the other day. It does still exist. And you know, when you're nursing, you also have to be careful about what you eat. Because I ate cauliflower one day and Ocean had. She screamed morning until night until it was out of her system. It was horrific.

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Speaker 2: That is crazy. So because she had like gas or something, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Her gap, it was gases. You know, because at that time, they're still trying to figure out how to push things out of their system. They don't know you have a tummy ache, and you're like, what do I do? When you're a grown asked woman, You're like, gotta go to the bathroom, lay on my belly, push it out, you know, but she's just a little infant, Like, what is this feeling?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the videos? I this is off topic, it's not one of my questions. But nowadays of the women who I literally just saw this first video a couple months ago, the women or men who take their baby's feet and like push the gas out.

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Speaker 1: I had to do that a lot with Ocean.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, and it just comes out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually very satisfying.

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Speaker 4: And you know what else I had to do with my babies is they would get constipated, so I'd have to give them suppositories.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like there's a lot that stuff that goes into caring for these little guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean totally no, you're absolutely right. Because when Ocean was born, if they don't poop within twenty four hours, that's a sign of jaundice. And the nurse had to come in and put a little vacoline on like the tip of this thermometer and like massage inside so that she would have a poop.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: She couldn't go home right until she had that first.

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Speaker 1: Pis she she couldn't go home until they cleared her for and then literally I was I gave birth on a Monday, I got to go home on a Tuesday, and literally on Thursday, I was taking her to the doctor. They had already been in communication, my pediatrician and cedar Cyan I, so he knew what he was looking for.

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Speaker 2: Wow, my pediatrician, Yeah that is wow. See I didn't know any of that. Okay. So then with breast milk, that was another question.

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Speaker 1: By the way, what breast milk is not just for feeding your baby if your baby gets little acne or anything like that, Like the other day, Ocean got a little mosquito bite. Yeah, I put the breast milk on it and it literally went down the next day.

00:24:07
Speaker 2: That's how amazing is that something your body produces as like a miracle milk?

00:24:12
Speaker 3: It is.

00:24:13
Speaker 4: And I wish I had known that back in the day because at five weeks Lauren got these little those little pimplest baby.

00:24:19
Speaker 1: It's really common.

00:24:20
Speaker 4: And some breast milk would have totally cleared it up. And I was putting all this other stuff on it because nobody told me.

00:24:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a lot when you have a baby and you're just expected there the hospital's like here, you go take it home and you're like, what do I do with it?

00:24:35
Speaker 2: I have to keep this alive. Well, that's breast milk sells, probably illegally, I don't know, but for a pretty penny online to like bodybuilders.

00:24:43
Speaker 1: I know I've heard that. Yeah, there's like a market, a huge market market.

00:24:48
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of breast milk, so obviously this is different then from what you said. Women produce breast milk differently. But one of my questions is, obviously your boobs start getting so then when do you know that you have breastmlke? Do they randomly start leaking one day?

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Speaker 1: No? I So in January I had wet spots on my pj's and I was like, what is this. I ran to my mom and I was like, what is this? And she's like, that's claws strum it's coming in because it was like this orange, not orange, but like yellow, like a yellow. Ye. No, it's basically the fat that comes like this, the fatty part that comes in before, and it's very rich. It comes in first, and your baby, if you're able to breastfeed, will take that first because it's got a lot of nutrients in it. And then your milk comes in, right, But my tits were so big, Jess, they were awesome. I was like, these are the funnest bags.

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Speaker 3: Ever, you know.

00:25:53
Speaker 4: And it's interesting too, because a lot of women will say, oh, I felt my milk come in are or they'd be so in gorge that they'd have to get in the shower to relieve it.

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Speaker 3: I never had that ever, ever.

00:26:05
Speaker 1: No, I had to actually see. I pumped a lot as well because I had a lot of milk, and when I was doing Watch What Happens Live in September, I didn't take my pump because I'm like, I'm breastfeeding her just in the morning, afternoon, night, right, Yeah, her teeth are coming in. By the way, there's nothing more painful than feeling a little baby tooth rip your nipple. It is excruciating. But I was like, I won't need to I can't imagine that that much milk would come in, and it did. I was literally sitting in the shower warming my boobs up and just pushing on them and it was just like squirming everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I need to know, then, did you ever get curious and turn it towards your mouth and try a little.

00:26:53
Speaker 1: Well, breast milk is like liquid gold. So if there was a bottle that Ocean took and she didn't finish it, yeah, I would drink it because I didn't want it to go to waste. And you know it's only good for a certain amount of time. Yeah, so I would drink it. Yeah.

00:27:08
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:27:09
Speaker 1: But I was producing so much that I froze so much.

00:27:15
Speaker 2: You know.

00:27:15
Speaker 4: And I think going into this, I think I attribute some of my not being able to breastfeed, not Milt not coming in.

00:27:25
Speaker 3: I had postpartum depression.

00:27:28
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that you mentioned that.

00:27:29
Speaker 3: What was though?

00:27:30
Speaker 1: I remember you telling me, Mom that your best friend Sid whose daughter is my best friend, we both have babies that are six months apart. We started to give them Lalla baby together. And you told me because you had your first baby when she was having her last, which is Olivia, and it was her fourth, and she would come into your house and open the drapes you to the mall totally.

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Speaker 4: I would be in my pajamas all day, the drape strawn, the TV wasn't on.

00:27:55
Speaker 3: She'd come over and.

00:27:56
Speaker 4: She'd say, well, of course you're depressed, and she'd rip open the rapes, turn on the TV, get me dressed, make me go to the mall or do something. But you know what was so freaky is I would be doing something at that moment. Like I remember we were at the mall and I was worried about what I was going to be doing the next day or the next week.

00:28:16
Speaker 3: It was. It was not a good mind space for me.

00:28:18
Speaker 1: That's depression, where you're concerned about where your headspace is going to be when you have to go home.

00:28:24
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:28:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really common thing. And it's a huge reason your experience mom was a huge reason why I used Mommy made, which they encapsulate your placenta and you have to remember your body forms an organ that it then just gets rid of.

00:28:46
Speaker 3: That is so amazing.

00:28:48
Speaker 4: And you know, I think you guys are so lucky in this day and age because mental health is spoken about.

00:28:53
Speaker 1: Back it was spoken about, but I didn't talk about it. Yeah, you know, but it was like taboo.

00:28:59
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

00:29:00
Speaker 4: And then I remember I would go in for be twelve shots and they wanted to put me on an antidepressant and I was too afraid that I would be locked in and to what's the word I want to say, dependent dependent on it? Yeah, you thought you'd be dependent on the ansid, right.

00:29:18
Speaker 3: Which is nothing wrong with taking an antidepressant.

00:29:21
Speaker 1: But now in the day, it was just a different day and age it was, and now everything is spoken about. There's so many outlets for you to call and understand what it is that you're feeling. We talk about chemical imbalances, what happens after you give birth, and even beyond that exactly.

00:29:39
Speaker 4: It's like, I say, you guys are so so lucky that you're in this day and age.

00:29:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

00:29:45
Speaker 2: And that was another question I had about the placenta. So obviously it's an organ that comes out of your body. I have heard there's different ways. First things. First, I've heard the rumors that eating your placenta ingesting it after you have a baby can help with postpartum depression. Yeah, did you find that accurate?

00:30:05
Speaker 1: You know, I would feel I suffered from heavy depression while I would like the first few months of my pregnancy, and I felt guilty because I'm like, how when my body is creating something that is you can give me all of the scientific facts in the world on how a baby is created and how it's born. Yeah, I don't give a shit. That is nothing short of a miracle period. So I would sit there and be like, how are you depressed? You're creating a miracle right now. So I got into this weird headspace. Luckily it subsided, but there were times after, you know, I gave birth that I'd be like, I'm a little down today. And you know, Mommy Made gives you instructions when you're feeling this way, take four of those capsules and face chug them. And I did, and it absolutely helped.

00:30:52
Speaker 4: Really, yes, and I'm so thankful that you had that. I mean that really is truly, You're so blessed to have had that.

00:30:59
Speaker 1: No, I know, I recommend that to everybody you can find. I actually follow Mommy Made on Instagram, so look them up on my Instagram. They are the best. They made it so easy for me. Literally, I just told my obi, by the way, I'm gonna eat this thing in a capsule, and he was like perfect. I brought my little cooler. They picked it up and a few days later it was like, here's your pills.

00:31:26
Speaker 2: So that's what you do. You bring they give you a cooler to bring yep, and then you give birth and does the obgyn immediately put it in the cooler.

00:31:34
Speaker 3: How does that work?

00:31:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do whatever they do with the plus for the placenta, and then they put it in the cooler and your indirect contact with someone from Mommy Made. They say, we'll be there in whatever timeframe they pick it up, and you can actually look on their instagram on how the process is done. It's crazy. And they even sent oceans on bilical cord that was made into a heart and painted, so I have that too.

00:32:02
Speaker 2: That's so sweet. And how many days after you're home from the hospital or after you give birth do you get the pills?

00:32:08
Speaker 1: It was pretty immediate, really, yeah, like it was a couple of days maybe, yeah, really it was fast.

00:32:16
Speaker 2: And it's just a free I'm assuming, like freeze dried placenta.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And they're all colorful. You can pick a flavor.

00:32:23
Speaker 3: Isn't that the jar that you have on your counter? That's that pretty? Like fisha ping?

00:32:27
Speaker 1: Yep, that's exactly what it is.

00:32:29
Speaker 2: And so okay, okay, so well, like Lalla said, they have it on their instagram how it's done, so check it out.

00:32:34
Speaker 1: What is it?

00:32:35
Speaker 2: Just Mommy made?

00:32:36
Speaker 1: Mommy made encapsulation okay, yeah, and literally like my saving grace. On that note, we're going to take a short break. We will be right back with all things birth. Okay, we're back. We've spoken about placentas. Are you gonna get into nitty gritty because, by the way, you're gonna get nitty gritty.

00:32:58
Speaker 2: I've got the questions.

00:32:59
Speaker 1: Okay, because by the way, what like, we haven't even gotten into the part where they're like, time to put the catheter in.

00:33:07
Speaker 2: See, now, this is the stuff I need to hear.

00:33:09
Speaker 3: So and the enema.

00:33:12
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't have an enema. I had no.

00:33:18
Speaker 2: Wow, breaking news, Lisa had an enema when she was giving birth to Laala. Everyone.

00:33:25
Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that.

00:33:27
Speaker 3: See how things have changed.

00:33:28
Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, I was dilated to a five when I got to the hospital and they immediately gave me an enema and then they put the catheter.

00:33:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh wow, okay, really quick on dilation. This is the dumbest question ever, But I need to know because it's it's mind blowing. So when they say dilated to a five or dilated to let's say a nine, right, Oh, your baby's coming, Does that mean though that you they go Laala's dilated to a seven? If you laid down and spread your legs. Would I see a seven centimeter hole right there? How does that?

00:34:03
Speaker 1: Is that?

00:34:03
Speaker 2: How it goes?

00:34:05
Speaker 4: So, you know, I'm not quite sure. All I know is when you're at a ten, you are given birth.

00:34:10
Speaker 3: Baby.

00:34:10
Speaker 1: But you you had your water break with me, right, You weren't induced?

00:34:15
Speaker 3: No, I was two weeks overdue with you. Okay. They were telling me that they were.

00:34:20
Speaker 4: Gonna induce me on a Monday Sunday. I remember speaking to Sid and all of a sudden, I'd have these pains and then i'd have another pain, and she's like, we're gonna time them.

00:34:30
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, she's like, you're in labor.

00:34:33
Speaker 4: So I labored throughout the night at home, Okay, got up at seven o'clock. Of course I didn't get up. I was already at but Dad got up at seven o'clock in the morning. We headed to the hospital and I was dilated to a five and like I said, and then at one twenty three, I had a baby girl.

00:34:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was not that new. Like tell I fast forwarded much.

00:34:55
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:34:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now you a traumatic experience, very.

00:34:58
Speaker 4: Traumatic, Like I got in there and your heart rate dropped.

00:35:04
Speaker 3: They had to put oxygen on me.

00:35:07
Speaker 4: And then the doctor came in and was looking at the heartbeat papers. Back in the day, I don't know what they do now, and he said, we have to get this baby out.

00:35:15
Speaker 3: Now.

00:35:15
Speaker 4: I had a nurse laying on my stomach. He was inside me trying to flip the baby around. He got four sets that were snapping, and I thought they were pulling my baby's hat off. My poor mother did not want to be in the delivery room. She was with me, but once I was going to give birth, she wanted to, you know, be out. She poor thing was pinned against the wall and my best friend said was there, and obviously my husband And all of a sudden, I'm pushing there laying on my stomach and this purple this is what Sid and Kent tell me, this purple like cone starts appearing and they look at each other like, oh my gosh, like what is wrong with this baby? Like then she they got her out and they whist her away to the nic U unit. For five hours, I didn't even get to see her. I mean, mine was a very traumatic berth, very traumatic.

00:36:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So what was the purple cone?

00:36:11
Speaker 2: Was that her head?

00:36:12
Speaker 4: She was in the birth canal and though so that was part of and the trauma of trying to get her out.

00:36:18
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and.

00:36:21
Speaker 2: Look at her now, no conehead, Miles.

00:36:26
Speaker 1: Well, who knows that never shaved my head. I could still be there, still be there.

00:36:32
Speaker 2: Let's get in. I need to know the obvious. Okay, poop key and did the space I'm not going to use medical terms. Did the space between your vagina and your butthole rip? So while you're pushing, did you poop? Did you pee? And did that space rip? I know there's a medical term.

00:36:48
Speaker 3: I didn't poop.

00:36:49
Speaker 4: And as far as they they snipped me, Oh yeah, they snipped me.

00:36:54
Speaker 1: Yes, wow eezyotomy you go, Glenn Coco, you know all the medical No, they didn't snip me. I did not poop, and there was no pee because I had a catheter and had a cat by the way, it was awesome.

00:37:11
Speaker 2: Wait tell us about the catheter, because that makes me scared.

00:37:14
Speaker 1: Don't let it make you scared. The most traumatic part of my birthing experience was the most basic, which is when you go in and they put the ivy in your arm. Really, oh yeah, I passed out twice. They thought I was seizing but I wasn't seizing because Ocean's heart rate didn't drop. Okay, but I was fully out cold twice. I'm a freak when it comes to needles. I don't want to hear them talking about I can't find the vein. I'm like, I'm gonna pass out. That is enough to make me black out and I'm just done. No. So once we got through that, and they did the epidural, which was no issue for me, like, just don't tell me about it.

00:37:55
Speaker 2: The epidural is the big thing up your spine.

00:37:57
Speaker 1: Yes, that numbs you, That numbs you.

00:38:00
Speaker 4: And everybody wanted to tell me their horror stories about their epidural.

00:38:03
Speaker 3: So that was another fun fact.

00:38:05
Speaker 1: Did you I learned? Was it fine?

00:38:08
Speaker 3: It was a piece of cake.

00:38:09
Speaker 1: Piece of cake for me too. They shoved it in whatever I was. I was having anxiety about the fact that I was so numb. I felt like humpty dumpty. Really I felt like a rolling egg. I was like, this is I'm gonna freak out, like I can't feel my legs, you know, and the reason you just know, you just know, your body just knows. Yeah, And I kept asking them, am I doing it? And they're like you're doing fantastic, Like she's right, I'm looking at her. It was crazy.

00:38:36
Speaker 2: So let's go back to the catheter. How do they put that in?

00:38:38
Speaker 1: They shove it little thing in your tea hole, in your peep hole. Yeah, but you can't feel it because you've already had your epidural. Okay, yeah, And then they come in and empty the bag every so often. You're straight chilling.

00:38:50
Speaker 2: So the bag is where can you see it filling up?

00:38:52
Speaker 1: I didn't see the bag. I couldn't see the bag.

00:38:54
Speaker 3: It was hung on the side of the bed.

00:38:56
Speaker 1: Yummy, who's horny? No, I didn't see the bag of pea at all. In fact, they would come in to check to see if I was dilated anymore, and it was time to break my water, and I was so comfortable. After they broke my water, they were like, we're gonna change the sheets because it's very wet, and I was like, I can't feel anything, so just leave it.

00:39:24
Speaker 3: Really yeah, yes, I remember that.

00:39:26
Speaker 1: I got the best sleep of my life.

00:39:28
Speaker 2: Really yes, Okay, then here's my question. We're going we're moving on to pain because I have heard the comparison use that I've heard multiple times is it's like a football coming through your nostril. That doesn't seem accurate. But like maybe if you don't have an epidural, did you feel pain?

00:39:45
Speaker 4: You know, I was in pain up until I went to the hospital, and that's right epidural. But I've also been told I have that very high pain tolerance. I've passed kidney stones twice on my own, so doctor.

00:39:55
Speaker 1: Sad me that.

00:39:56
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

00:39:57
Speaker 2: De Savage, that's amazing.

00:40:00
Speaker 1: She would have done well in like the stone ages.

00:40:02
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh do.

00:40:03
Speaker 1: You think I would?

00:40:04
Speaker 2: I would have died at the end of the world comes she's on our team.

00:40:08
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Because my apidural kind of wore off, like the button wasn't working. Yeah, and it like wasn't that bad, but for me, it was excruciating. I was like, this needs to be fixed with media.

00:40:20
Speaker 2: It was so you could feel the baby coming out ocean.

00:40:23
Speaker 1: It more is like cramping, like have you ever had period cramps? Yes, of course, so intensify that by like a hundred.

00:40:32
Speaker 2: Okay, see that doesn't feel like it's that much pain to me, though.

00:40:36
Speaker 1: Well that's because you're a bad app by one hundred though, yeah, maybe, But if someone out there like that doesn't sound that bad. I'm like, it's horrific.

00:40:46
Speaker 2: My thing is if I feel the hole at the bottom of me like ripping.

00:40:51
Speaker 1: No, don't get that out of your head. You don't even know you have a hole down there. Really, you're so numb you don't know.

00:40:56
Speaker 3: Shit.

00:40:57
Speaker 1: Okay, you forget you forget that you even have a bottom half of your body. Really, yes, And when they're telling you to push, yeah, you feel pressure, but it's not painful. Now after it wears off and you go home, you feel like someone's taking a sledgehammer from the inside of your vagina.

00:41:18
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh see now this lots of questions on this.

00:41:22
Speaker 3: What did you have a donut? I don't remember. Did you sit on the donut?

00:41:26
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:41:26
Speaker 3: Me too, bed though, what.

00:41:29
Speaker 2: Do we mean by donut?

00:41:30
Speaker 1: We need to know.

00:41:32
Speaker 3: It's like an inflatable inner tube that you sit on, sit.

00:41:36
Speaker 1: On when when you're in a city, at the table or wherever you so that there's not direct pressure on your huh. Okay, ok And I did rip a little bit. I had like two stitches, and it was every time you'd go to the bathroom, which, by the way, you can't.

00:41:50
Speaker 2: Wipe you can't wipe, do they The stitches just dissolve.

00:41:54
Speaker 1: Yes, they dissolve. But you they give you like this little douchey thing. Yeah that you you pee, then you spray it, then witch hazel pads for you to pat it, okay, and then you let it air dry your vagina. Your vagina, you're pretty little.

00:42:12
Speaker 2: Set air dry.

00:42:13
Speaker 1: Let it air dry. You're not supposed to rub it at all, just gently pat okay.

00:42:19
Speaker 3: Yep.

00:42:19
Speaker 1: And I liked the ice pads by Freda. There's like a giant pad you like, just snap it a little bit and it releases the little things that make it cold. Yeah, those were a lifesaver. They also gave me spray to numb it. But when you have a baby, yeah, go and get either Depends or Secret diaper, you know diapers by Secret, the little liner companies. Okay, so full sized diapers, full sized diapers. You're gonna live in them, and it's just so much easier to take them off and throw them away for how long depending on how long you're bleeding. I mean I was probably in mind for a good three weeks.

00:43:00
Speaker 2: And you're bleeding just from your body is just bleeding.

00:43:04
Speaker 1: I mean, you just had a baby there.

00:43:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's so it's kind of the lining sluffing off. Everything's kind of sluffing off.

00:43:11
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:43:11
Speaker 1: And also if you ripped like I did, there's gonna be a little bit of blood from that. It's just like your body just pushed out a living human being.

00:43:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, nitty gritty, did you take a mirror and look at your vagina? How different did it look like? What did it look like stretched? And how long until it snaps back?

00:43:29
Speaker 1: My cookie looked cuter after childbirth. Really, she snapped back like a rubber band. Sure it did.

00:43:38
Speaker 3: I don't remember looking at it. No, I don't know.

00:43:42
Speaker 2: Really, it's interesting.

00:43:43
Speaker 1: Oh I remember laying in my closet spread eagle, being like, you're a badass bitch.

00:43:48
Speaker 2: Really and it snaps back because and I don't think my mom would care about saying this, but my mom did have five kids. So, like, I remember jumping on the trampoline and she would come jump on the trampoline with us and then be like, oh my god, I have to get off the trempline because she was literally peeing her pants.

00:44:04
Speaker 1: Was it p though or juice? Because I juice way more now that I've had ocean really.

00:44:09
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so it's just like discharge.

00:44:12
Speaker 1: It's just whatever yumminess that is, like a slip and slide.

00:44:17
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:44:17
Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of slip and slide, we're back to birth. Mucus plug. What in the world is a mucus plug? And when does it come out? Lisa help?

00:44:26
Speaker 1: Okay, so I heard about this. Do you know anything about it? No?

00:44:29
Speaker 3: I never even experienced that. But they had to break my water.

00:44:32
Speaker 1: So I had to break mine too. So I've heard about the mucus plug. Yeah, but I didn't experience it.

00:44:39
Speaker 2: Okay, So my boyfriend Kyle knows a lot about childbirth for some reason, and he said the mucus plug was something that comes out before your water breaks, like the mucus. It's like mucus in there.

00:44:52
Speaker 3: I know this too because of Sid's daughter.

00:44:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were really into like what about her mucus plug? And I was like, I don't know what that is. But again, I was induced, so I was laying in a hospital bed and they were just dealing with whatever was happening down there.

00:45:06
Speaker 2: Okay, if anyone knows the exact thing of what a mucus plug is, we're not going to google this comment and lawless.

00:45:11
Speaker 3: Photos on Instagram.

00:45:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, or call in to the podcast. Yes, a call in, yes, and tell us what a mucus plug is? Eight six six La La pod because I want to know.

00:45:22
Speaker 2: We all want to know. Okay, so we're back. You had to wear a diaper?

00:45:26
Speaker 1: Yes?

00:45:26
Speaker 2: How long until you can have sex again? And is it painful when you do?

00:45:30
Speaker 1: It? Was six weeks they recommend.

00:45:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to have a six week check up to clear before you can do anything.

00:45:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, any sort of exercise, sex, finger banging yourself, all of it.

00:45:43
Speaker 2: Were you fine after six weeks, either of you? Or did you have to wait? No?

00:45:47
Speaker 3: I was totally clear.

00:45:49
Speaker 2: Good to know, good to know. What about douching, then, is that just like a thing you have to do regularly?

00:45:55
Speaker 1: You just like hold the douche.

00:45:57
Speaker 2: Oh, you don't out, you don't know.

00:45:59
Speaker 1: Do You don't put any anything in there, and that's just to clean it from the outside.

00:46:04
Speaker 2: Because you don't get your affection right and you can get an infection with putting things in there after you have a baby.

00:46:09
Speaker 1: Yes, because it's all toe up in there. Oh, so you do it from the outside. You squirt it down, No soap, just warm water. Okay. And it's funny because I remember you asking me about the smell.

00:46:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does it smell.

00:46:24
Speaker 1: It doesn't smell bad. Okay, there's for me, it smelled like medical and I actually I was obsessed with everything that was happening to my body after I gave birth.

00:46:38
Speaker 2: See, and that's what. And you just loved it. Because you loved it, you have your miracle, like you have a miracle in front of you.

00:46:44
Speaker 1: I just felt like I am a woman.

00:46:46
Speaker 3: Hear me, roar.

00:46:47
Speaker 1: I just gave like I have. I've never felt so much like a strong, beautiful woman.

00:46:54
Speaker 3: And you were and looked like a strong beautiful woman and you are.

00:46:58
Speaker 1: Thank you. But yeah, after childbirth, there's something that for me. I know that a lot of my friends struggled after they gave birth with their body because your body is not yours anymore. Yeah, your boobs are not just these sexy things that are for Kyle to play with. Yes, those belong to the baby. They're feeding her. Your body isn't yours anymore. Yeah. I was okay with that. I loved it.

00:47:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just felt like mama and you just have Oh yeah, yeah, I mean that is I mean, hello, that's beautiful, She's like.

00:47:27
Speaker 4: And you know, I think both Lauren and I were super lucky too, because at my six week checkup, I was back to my pre pregnancy weight and I think Lauren was too, which you know is we have to be very grateful for that.

00:47:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. And people ask me like, what did you do? And I have to just say it was genetics.

00:47:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you didn't do anything spec and you didn't even seem I mean, I started working for you three months after Ocean was born, but you didn't seem you were just like, I'm just it's not like you were a woman who was like I need to get back to this body. You were just like you seemed thankful for your body and just like it's going to do what it's going to do right now. Yeah.

00:48:06
Speaker 1: And I think when I express how I felt about my body, there have been commons where it's like, well, of course you would think about your body that way, I mean, look at it, but mentally you don't think that way after you give birth, right, you don't think, oh my gosh, my bounce back is amazing. Like I acknowledge as an outsider how people would say that, Yeah, but mentally I still gave birth like everybody else. Yes, I'm very lucky that my bounce back was very quick. Yeah, but I still felt like things are sitting different.

00:48:41
Speaker 2: That was another question. Oh, for sure, you know, is your body forever change? Because I have a friend who was like, who actually was happy about it, but she was like, I never had hips. Look at these hips now. Yeah, like I heard your hips sort of you blow out or.

00:48:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really fit into any of my genes. I remember telling my mom, I need to go Jean shopping so that I can and throw these out. And she was like, no, no, no, you gotta wait because now I fit right back into them.

00:49:07
Speaker 2: So your body doesn't permanently change, or it does in some ways.

00:49:11
Speaker 1: I think it depends on who you are.

00:49:12
Speaker 3: I think it depends on who you are too.

00:49:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:49:15
Speaker 4: I think some people get you know, curvier and more volumptuous, and others, you know, go back to what they were before.

00:49:21
Speaker 3: It just I think it's an individual thing for sure.

00:49:24
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I felt like my body was. I loved my body after I gave birth because I've always loved I've always loved women with me on them who are curvy and volumptuous, like I've always wanted in the fall. Yeah, like I've always loved that. I've always said, like, give me Ashley Graham on a silver platter and I will be the happiest girl in the entire world. I am grateful for my genetics. But I've always, even when I was a young kid, wanted to be curvy. Yeah, like big boobs, the hips, the big but I always wanted that really yeah, and I've tried to get it in the gym and it just doesn't happen.

00:50:06
Speaker 4: Well, it's funny that we all want what we don't have. I mean, don't you feel that way?

00:50:10
Speaker 3: Yes, hello, yeah.

00:50:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

00:50:13
Speaker 1: But my dream woman is curvy and sexy, and like, just give me all of the curves, all the curves.

00:50:21
Speaker 2: Yes, we love curbs. I love curves. Okay, this is gonna be one of the last ones. But I do want to know, because it's not clear to me. Can you just breastfeed forever? Obviously, people, a lot of people, I mean most people wouldn't choose to do that. Can you just some women just choose however long I want to pump, you just have milk in there.

00:50:41
Speaker 1: You want to know what's so crazy is I was watching Old school Housewives of Orange County and I remember Shannon Badore. She like mentioned that if she hears a baby cry like she'll start lactating. And Andy Cohen asked her about it on the Union and she was like, yeah, I could still produce milk. So that's an interesting question. I've heard breast milk is supply and demand, like now that ocean. It's funny because with her teeth coming in, depending on the day, if it's morning time, she'll sucky sucky, no biting, nighttime sucky sucky, no biting. Mid day. It's a chew toy, feed and bite. So for me, it's like supply and demand. If I used to feed her every single meal from the boobe. Yeah, my boobs were huge, just filled with milk. Now it's kind of lessened, but I think it is supply and demand if you choose to feed your kid, even if it's once a day from the boobe. I have heard of kids that are like five still sucking on the baby.

00:51:46
Speaker 3: I actually have.

00:51:47
Speaker 4: A friend and she nursed her baby till I think she was almost four.

00:51:51
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

00:51:52
Speaker 3: What I kid you not?

00:51:55
Speaker 2: That is incredible.

00:51:56
Speaker 1: It is because if you think about it, if the world comes to an and there's no food, you want to be with a mom who's nursing because we're all going to need to take a turn.

00:52:05
Speaker 2: Yes, well, it goes back to I don't know the actual like hardcore facts on the tribal days, but it was like women would always that's why periods sync up, you guys. And again we can fact check this with an expert, but that's why periods sync up because it was always easiest for women and tribes to be on the same cycle, to give birth at the same to breastfeed at the same because women would just breastfeed all the babies, right.

00:52:32
Speaker 3: I think that is so cool.

00:52:33
Speaker 1: It's amazing women. It is a miracle. No, I've always loved women. So let's talk about all the things that women can do.

00:52:45
Speaker 3: Wow.

00:52:45
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations to everyone who's given birth, because what a ride it is.

00:52:50
Speaker 3: It is.

00:52:51
Speaker 1: It's very intense, but like I said, you forget about all of the things that are not great because you have like this perfect little human who's you.

00:52:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just thinking. Amen to moms area.

00:53:02
Speaker 1: They're superheroes.

00:53:03
Speaker 2: Celebrate moms.

00:53:04
Speaker 1: They really are.

00:53:06
Speaker 4: So whether you have a surrogate, whether you adopted, whether you gave birth.

00:53:10
Speaker 1: Doesn't I always say that, stars. I love that you said that, Mom, because I say that all the time. I'm like, it doesn't matter how your kid got here. There's something that happens when you know your baby is on the way that you are just you just become like this like incredible force. You become like a mama bear. Yeah, you'll die for your kid and you'll take someone out for them, so be prepared.

00:53:31
Speaker 2: And that's amazing. And yes, no, you're so right, Lisa. That goes to all of the women. So many women can't have babies, and so many women choose to not be mothers, and whatever path you choose, I think it's incredible. Women are incredible in general. But I think celebrating it all is beautiful.

00:53:47
Speaker 1: What an amazing podcast today. Thank you Mama for joining us.

00:53:51
Speaker 3: Love being with you girls.

00:53:52
Speaker 1: You guys are my tribe, a home full of girls, even the dogs.

00:53:57
Speaker 3: What's up.

00:53:58
Speaker 1: Thank you Jessica for my co host again. We make a good team. And of course, thank you guys for listening to another episode of To Give Them Lalla podcast. I am so grateful for you all. Remember I want to hear from you, so please call me my number eight six six La La Pod and we will be back with another episode next week