'Bachelor in Paradise' Is Back with Abigail; Tia Booth Joins as Co-host

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Speaker 1: Hello, Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. Today's the day that we are not only starting a new season of Bachelor in Paradise, which I will say is exciting in itself because it has been two full years since we've had Paradise and it is returning with a bang, but I have some even more exciting news and maybe just it's personally exciting for me because I have one of my best friends, my girl Tea, to recap the entire season here with me. Because if you didn't see from the teasers, we both maybe make an appearance on Paradise, and so you were there too to show up. Wasn't missed you? Miss you? Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. I cannot wait to do this season with you. Thank you so much, Becca. I'm so excited to be here and a little terrified to talk about this since we were both there, but makes it even more exciting that we got to experience it and live it together and now we get to recap together. I'm so so excited to do this. It's going to be such a fun time. And you know what I love right now is like no one knows what we were doing there, Like were we there to date? Were we there to host. Were we feeling in for wells for a hot second? No one knows. Were we there to cry? We'll find out, but it's going to be a wild ride to watch together. I feel you. I feel you when you say you're excited and also terrified, because I think this is how we were feeling when Ari's season was airing back and we would text each other and be like, what the app just happened? What did you say? Just like, it's I'm feeling a lot of deja who right now, but I'm so glad I have you to lean on. There was a lot that went down in the first episode, and I don't know if it's just because like we haven't had Paradise in so long, but this season, this the night one premiere of this seemed so extra funny and just exciting to me. And that was that just me? Or did you feel it too? No, it was so funny. I kept writting things down that really cracked me up. When Joe walked in automatically funny, everything was cracking me up. I've really honestly had a good time watching it. At the beginning, I'm like, this is so dramatic and cheesy with all these intros and by the end of the episode, I'm like, damn it, they've done it again. I've laughed, I've felt for these people, and I was sucked in immediately. So good it was. It was just so entertaining. This premiere just seemed so lighthearted, so funny. I loved the like the job titles or like the descriptions that they gave for everyone, because it wasn't it was like it was they just like played off of everyone and their energy and like their past and just their personas. It was. It was great. Um, there's so much that is Paradise is the most fun to watch. I will say as someone who has watched the full season, it is the most fun and most entertaining to watch. It is a little bit more lighthearted, and there's just so many more storylines, so it's not just I mean, I know why people watch the Bauchim Bouchot because you get invested in the lead and wanting to root for them to find love. But what's great about this is there's so many different relationships and love stories unfolding that people. People just get to know a lot of these contestants and the casts on such a different level because a lot of them, well I shouldn't say a lot of them, but some of them went home night ones and right, I mean, for instance, Joe sent his ass home night one and now people look at it, look at it out he couldn't get enough, he had to come back for a round two on Paradise and one wants to leave already. I know, which I don't blame him. I yeah, I can't imagine going through what he did the first time around on Paradise and actually having at work and falling in love with somebody and leaving in a room. Well didn't leave in a relationship, but they obviously got together after that. But it's got to be triggering it. It has to be, like so much of the past has probably been drudged up because of him just simply being there, even though it's completely new women and men on that beach. Like I give props to him for just like having the balls to do it again. Question, it's very nostalgic because it is new people, but the beach and everything looks exactly the same. So I'm sure it did bring up some memories and some thoughts of what the hell am I doing? Like you really think you can go down there and think it's going to be a completely different scenario, but you're just automatically in that zone again. So yeah, major props to him. And we both know Joe, like, you know, we've we've spent time with him outside of filming well before Paradise and you know, we've done his podcast, We've had him, we've talked to him. He's, I will say, one of my good friends. And to see and Joe, you know, is he's funny. He'll give it to you straight, but when he gets emotional, you know, it holds some weight. And so to see him that day one in his head kind of choking up about being there and if it's something he really wants to do, I just wanted to reach through the screen and hug him. The moment he said talking to Serena Pee for the first time felt like talking to Kendall like ripped my heart out because I know Joe at this point and I want him to be happy so bad. And I saw him kind of spiral a little bit the first time we were impaired us together and kind of throw himself in the ocean and have these moments where he just wanted to be alone, and I'm like, not again, Joe, we can't do this again. That was Joe heartbreaking. Joe had a little sad boy summer for a moment that day, for a day. But you know who didn't have a sad boy summer was about twelve of the couples who already started making out. See, I think you made a list of everyone that made out right, because I think I lost tracks. So can we just rid him off? Really quick? Bang bang bang Okay, Tajuan and Trey, Mari and Kinny, Marissa and Connor, Abby and Noah, Tammy and Aaron, Serena and Joe and everyone said, I think this was the first kiss in Paradise. Splash, it wasn't. I will say. I thought when Demi walked down the stairs and met David Spade at the beginning of the Gates of Paradise, I thought they might have made had a little mateup session. Thinks they had a little little sexually pets there. She called him Joe dirt. I love Demi obviously we see her papa at the very end. Um. I think there she commands a room. She knows had a commanded freaking room. Man. We love our Demi Um. Yeah, I can't wait to see more of her. But I'm trying to think of who else made a big splash. Kenny, Goddess Victoria, she had hurt what what did somebody call it? The zip ties on her head. We had Kenny who was naked the entire time, which I do really want to ask our guest about. Who else sad Joe? We had Tajuan went out with Trey's uncle. Yes, that was she said that. I was like, wait what, um, but you know, they kept saying that runs in the family. She must have a type. I don't know, but but it seems like her and Trey really hit it off. So I'm excited to see where that goes. I truly hope she has a better time this time around than she did last time, because it seemed like she hated very hard the first time. Very hot and sweaty. Always shows her sweaty too, and they're not like, hey, can you want to like blot that off. They're just like, no, we'll let her, let her, let it ride, let it roll, because really, like, Paradise is effing hot. We've been there before for weddings and for appearances, and you guys, it's not. It is not the most conducive place to try and feel sexy into date anyone. I will say that. Um, so give everyone a little bit of slack when you see how sweaty we all look and it doesn't look good. Makeup fallen off. Um oh that was another thing. Kelsey and her milk of milk of magnesium magnesium. It's magnesia, milk magnesia, and that's my cage to sleep. I think, well, He's like, yeah, that's it. But honestly, you learn something new every day, So I mean should I wish I would have known that before I ever traveled, because yeah, I mean her face in place, the makeup was good. So um, we have so much to talk about, but I think it's just time we bring on our guest today because she was the first one to hit the Sands of Paradise. She is a fan favorite. We absolutely adore her. We have none other than Abigail herself, and I can't wait to have her on to ask her all of the questions. Maybe she can give us a little behind the scenes, a little dirt on some stuff. But we can't wait to have her on because she finally had her first date in this franchise, and so, without further ado, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Abigail to Bachelor Happy Hour. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour, Abigail. Now, this isn't your first time joining us because we had you back on Matt season, which feels like forever ago. But how have you been since filming Paradise? Since it's now out there and we saw you come down onto the beach as the first woman, I should say, yeah, it's very really crazy, it's been really happ dig. Yeah, I'm just I'm really nervous, and I thought it would be better this time around, like after a math season. I've been like, okay, had gone through it once before, like I know what to expect this time. But it was nothing like I expected, Like going to the beach and going through the whole thing, and I'm not having to relive it. It's definitely going to be very interesting. Well, it's always different. I mean, coming from experience for somebody who has done several different shows in very different capacities to allows, it's always so different reliving each season because a different people are involved, different feelings and emotions are involved, and you never know how everything is going to be quite pieced together. So yes, you lived it, but you never know what's going to air each week, and so it's super nerve wracking. Um, but we loved seeing you walk down. I mean T and I, as you know, we love you and we were rooting for you. You seem so just excited. You had this like beautiful like and I don't want to say a child like like excitement energy, Like you just had this like childlike wild factor when you first walked down into the beach. Obviously you met mister David Spade himself, not to be confused, not to be confused with Dammy thought it was, um, what was that like meeting David Spade? Because you you generally only seemed star struck. I'm was really star struck. So I remember thinking before so I was walking down. Then they told me before I walked down, they were like, Okay, David's face is going to be in the first house. And I was like, David Spade because I grew up watching of movies, a lot of his movies. I'm my dad's favorite movies, so we've always kind of grown up with him in our house. And then it was kind of like Christmas too, walking down because we had to quarantine form almost a week and a half at that point, and so just every day I was thinking about walking down to the beach and all that excitement anticipation was building up, and so I was already really nervous, and then I had to meet David Spade on top of that. I've never met a celebrity before. I think Chris Harrison was probably the next biggest like celebrity I've met. So it was just I was nervous, I was star struck. It was just a lot of emul chance. So I hope I did cut across too, like I don't know, like weird though it was so it was so sweet, not weird at all. It's that's what's so excited is I think people watch the show, fans of the show, and they think that, like the contestants in the cast, like we're just block like so used to meeting our celebrity like crushes or anyone that's like legit famous but not from reality the first time. I'm like math season, like when you get out the lug about and you like see him for the first time, just like standing here like that's honestly what I felt like seeing David state. I was just like, oh my god, like it's starting now, like how it's fate, but it's just like, oh my god, it's like starting now, like just all that excitement. Did you know that you were going to be first, the first one down me? Now? So I for some reason I thought we were gonna be going out like a few days earlier, and so then they kept coming by and saying like, oh na, yeah, not yet. So I was thinking like, okay, like I'm gonna be walking down and people are going to be on the beach already because they don't really tell you kind of what you're walking into. So I go down and then date it tells me like, oh, I'm the first one, and I'm just like I think I like a brain fart or something like. It was just so much going on. It was like simulation overload. And then they leave you by yourself. I was the first one down to the first one the first time I was in Paradise, and they leave you for that fifteen minutes by yourself. You're like, yeah, someone else, oh, like was it exciting? And I was like it was kind of awkward and I'm just down there and by myself where I started to walk down that you just have to like entertain yourself for like fifteen minting. So, as you said, Joe was the second person after you, the first guy to walk down onto the beach. Was there anyone that you were really hoping for to walk down those steps that day, or anyone that may have looked down the steps that you didn't care for that well, first off, there wasn't anyone. I was like, oh God, I hope they don't walk down the stairs, like I don't think anyone has had like a sour taste in my mouth that way. And then I kind of just wanted to paradise, not wanting to, you know, have one person in mind because they just feel like I've seen that happen in the past. And then people get disappointed of older drash and burn honey like a top. So I was like, okay, I want to get like my expectations too high. And I just remember a lot of people, like people kept asking me like leading up to it, like okay, give me some names, like who do you want to see, and I'm like I'm just keeping an open mind, like I don't want to hold in on anybody too early. But then I was super excited when all the guys started walking out, I was like, Okay, I know who they are. M I was really surprised to see Joe like be the second person down. Um, you know, I was just expecting someone from like Claritatious season, like someone for more recent and I saw Joe and like obviously talk to him on his podcast before. But yeah, I'm exparitely surprising him. I don't think. I don't think anyone expected to see show. I don't even think Joe expected to see Joe, to be honest, from him, was like what am I doing here? Um? Speaking of other guys that walked down onto the beach, what were your thoughts when Kenny walked down naked? I wish I could say I was surprised. And I remember why. The first time that I ate talked to him, like when we were say hi and stuff, I had to try so hard to keep my eyes like because I didn't want to absolutely looked down and I him see, yeah, it was like this whole thing and I was just like, oh, hell, I calturi here. I don't think he would have cared if you looked down, because even he said in one of his ims, He's like, look, I'm forty, I worked hard for this, and like I want I want to share it with the world. I want to show it off. What. Oh god, I freaking love Kenny. I can't wait to see more of that damn black box the entire episode though. Oh my god, I've seen it in the background too, like other people were talking. Then you just see Kenny's sent it back. You're like, yeah, I'm just thinking of like how hard the editing department probably had to be to like make sure every time Kenny's even like remotely shown even in the background, to add in that box. Like, it's not easy, people, it takes a lot. So shout out to the editing department for Kenny's black box. I hope it's there the entire season. We'll see. Um. Well, another interesting man that came down Abigail that seemed to catch your eye was mister Noah, and he said fresh out of the gate that he was interested in getting to know you. We saw you go talk and mingle for a little bit. What was your first impression of him? So, my first impression Noah was when we were all on the beach, a lot of the girls started vocalizing like a lot of the guys are coming up and talking to us are kind of like growing out, you know why they not pulling us aside, Like this is the time to get to know people. And what really stood out to me about Noah was he was so confident. He was just like I want to talk to you and can we go over here? So like right away I was like, okay, Like he's making it known that he's interesting. That's really like it attracted quality that then once we just started talking, like in what's I awkward at all? We were laughing. Um like if the guy can make me laugh right away, it's kind of getting over for me. Um. Yes, I think we just hit it off really well in our first conversation. Can I can I say that Noah's outfit on the first day. Do you guys remember the like the old bubble gum from the nineties that had different like you pull it out and it would have like the different stripes, no zebra stripe. The ze wasn't I don't remember. Somebody will tell me what the gum company or brand is, but it was always like colorful. Um you like they were individually packaged and they'd have like either stripes or PoCA douts or just like past cell colors on the end kind of thing. Not the band aid ones that were in lack a band aid looking box. I think so, but they had different packaging that you'd have to pull. I'm gonna find it, and I'm going to do a side of my secondparison, because when Noah walks down the steps, that is what crossed my mind first. I was like, he looks like the bubble gum that I used to eat from the nineties, which I don't know style. He's a good style. Yeah. The first day Migil, you also looked I will say, I loved your outfit to coming down to the beach. I thought it was so cute. I don't want to forget. I wrote that in my notes, so I don't want to forget to not tell you that the day goes on. Obviously, no one knows what to expect. I think at this point no one knows correct me if I'm wrong, who had the roses or the power of that week? But we do see you get the first date card, and somebody who can relate to that is also Tia. So Tia, you want to take this one away? Yeah? Sure, So were you nervous getting the first date card? I was really nervous because obviously I got MAX Season. You all know that I didn't get a day card, and so it's always just kind of fitness like thing for me, where it was just what you never got a one on one. I never got a one on one. I've only my thing was I was on every single group day of Max Season, even the ones that I wasn't invited to because we would be in the audience, and I never got Yeah. So it was just always just saying that other people have done, and so I was just like, oh, I can't really picture myself doing it. And then James wrote my name for the day card and I was just like, oh God, it's happening, Like it's happening right now. But that was super excited, just because I feel like getting it early on is really nice because you can kind of figure out by the way, like if you hit it off with somebody, yeah, did you automatically know that you wanted to pick Noah, Um, I have like I got feelings that I wanted to. I just talked to a couple other people that day, like Connor and Brendan, but no, I think Noah just like made me laugh the mout. I was just like, you know, like I kind of a lighthearted date, something fun, and I just feel like he was the perfect person to do. I'm so impressed that you just knew automatically. I had to go think about it and talk for thirty minutes about who to pick, and you were like, Noah, I want you, let's go. I love it. Yeah, I mean I kind of knew after our conversation. I feel like you kindly just know, like if you're chatted to somebody kind of I know, first impressions aren't everything, but I definitely had the strongest, like at chattering towards him after our conversation. Well, it seemed like that. Yeah, because out of all of the couples that we saw chat throughout the day, it seemed like you two really did hit it off, like with the strongest connection at least what I could see as a viewer. Did you expect that you would be getting that first date card? Did you have any inkling that maybe it could be me since because I didn't get when I'm at season um, so, to be honest, like I did think at some point I was going to get a day card, just because I'd be like, Okay, that'd be kind of shitty if I went through two season, but I didn't expected especially the first day, you know, that was just like okay, you know, I was first on the beach. I was kind of like my moment for the day, and I was just watching after another and I was just like, what did I do to like desert this like all these moments like the first day. So I definitely was writing on a really big high like after the first day, Yeah, well you're easy to root for, so yes, and that is all going to be rooting for it. I think that's why we were so excited to see you not only step on the beach as the first person, but to get that first day card because you were such a fan favorite from that season, just because and I now can speak from experience because I've gotten to know you. You just have such a beautiful, kind soul and just just a good, genuine human being that, like, you know, everyone wants people on the show to find love, but I think, especially for you, you're going to be the one that everyone's going to be supporting and standing behind. When you went on your date with Noah, you guys had a conversation about how you typically in the past tend to friend zone men, and he was very open about wanting, you know, to move not wanting to move fast, but in this process, things just move fast and it has to get serious pretty quickly. At dinner, when you were having this entire conversation, was there any point where you were like, Okay, maybe I should friend zone this guy, or maybe I should just be totally open. Like what was going through your head and your heart during that conversation. Yeah, So I did tell him that it's not so much that it's always my choice, but I think I meant more was just like I just I'm very slow to open up, and I think a lot of time that just kind of puts me in a friend's down whether it's me choosing to do that or the guy choose to do that. And I just knew that, like, in this type of environment, you can't really do that because you only have a month on the beach with somebody, especially, I mean, if you're there in the beginning. And he definitely was pushing me and challenging me to like he said, he's the opposite. He wants to have those hard conversations he wants to have those serious conversations, and I'm somebody that's like, no, I, let's just like slowing down a little bit, like let's get to know each other. Um. But I think that was what was really attracted to, just because I think obviously it hasn't worked out for me before, because I haven't had someone challenged me to kind of push me out of my comfort zone in those type of situations. And he was just all in like the first night of like, you know, this is what you were like in the past, Like you've done things happened that you don't deserve, but that's going to change now, you know, Like I think this is what you deserve. And I didn't want to get that to you. And I was just like, okay, like that's just like too good to like pass that, while he kind of want to be kind of focus on him moving forwards. So I wrote, Abbie wants to move slow, l ol. You really can't. But I think Noah was the perfect one for that, and I love that he also pointed out that everyone was clapping for you when you got the day card and was so supportive of that and let you see that you do deserve something special. That was a really sweet moment. M He He's so funny watching because between the two if you like, I don't know if you caught this, um, but he'll like say sweet things, but then he'll kind of throw in like something a little bit like raunchier sexual that'll like take a hot second for people to catch up on, which I thought was fun because it shows off like not only do you guys have this fun, playful side, but you also can get more serious and you know, the heavy with the light. It's a fun mix to watch. Uh. Obviously after the conversation, you guys went into the pinatas and you had one of the first kisses in Paradise. What was that like where their fireworks? What was going through your body when he kissed you? It was the goods girl? Yeah, I think that was definitely like the first like the best first date I've been on. Just to have it go the way I did, I just like, I'm really excited to go and then to have the conversations we did, and then to have it and the way we did, like with the confetti and everything. I was just I don't know, I just feel like I was like in a movie, like for a night, which is really he was really sweet. He's a really good kisser. Um. Yeah, so it was a great night. I know Tia and she she wants more details. She would explain good kisser. Hell Um, I'll say he was like the perfect like mix of like knocking, like too aggressive, but it was still like passionate enough, because I don't like when guys were just like like to tear Man, you're like, okay, that's here. But he also wasn't like okay, I'm yeah, it's like the first day, like me wanting more kind of thing. Yeah, oh nice, no one likes no one likes too much tongue. How we're like, okay, this is what I think. This separates a mediocre kisser from like a great kisser is not only like obviously the mouthwork, but the handwork, like where it's not too aggressive, but you can feel it in their hands like they want more and like they can't get enough. How how were Noah's hands during that hands I will say, Um, so when we had such betty kids, we were like running around and he was so smooth and like how he picked me up. I was like, oh my god, this guy's gonna like drop me like he's trying to buy it was so smooth. I was just like, okay, like if you could do that smoothly, like we're all very good to start Kindnathan, So yeah, I would say he was good with this. SAMs, Oh my god, I love it. I like watched it. But now I'm getting chills having you talk about it. It's just I'm weird, okay. Um, was there any point after that date? Obviously it was the first date, a first reel, I would say, solid connection forming on the beach, But was there any part of you that after that date, you know, you get back to the resort with everyone where you still wanted to be open to see what other relationships could unfold or who would potentially walk down the stairs, or were you pretty set on like Okay, I got my guy during this, We're good. Yeah. An good thing for me is, I know people talk a lot about you know, I want to keep my options open just in case somebody else walks down the stair, Like that was never really a thought in my mind, Like I was just like, you know, I think I found like who I want to spend my time in paradise with. Like we hit it off really well. That doesn't happen every day for me, and I don't want to just talk that out the way, you know, it's just for you know, a hawkeye that walks down the stairs. I know nothing about. But the only reservation that I had was just more like it's just too good to be true kind of thing, like what are the odds? Like the first day in Paradise, I find like my person like, can we keep it going this whole time? Is he gonna want to talk to anyone else that comes down? So it wasn't like I was still like fully confident after the date, but I knew that I didn't want to really talk to anybody else. What I was thinking, how did you feel knowing that that first week the guys had the power, if you will, like that they were the ones giving out the roses? Did you feel like you were pretty safe with Noah or like, were you still a little bit worried that he would maybe give out a rose to somebody else? I mean, not gonna lie, I would be like that really shitty if we had that grade of date and I took him on the date and he didn't knock into your rose. So I was really like ninety eight preside confidence that was his rose um. But I mean you're always nervous because I mean the thing about Paradise if they just grow in stuff when you're not expecting it. So I was just like, okay, what are the chances, Like I don't know, like Turen girls Cup, I don't know. He's like pards go through your head and he like he could hit it off better with somebody else. Um. But at the same time, I was like, we had a really good date, so I couldn't see why he wouldn't like get me his rose Yeah. Of course it shows him saying I'm going to keep my options open, and then it shows this amazing right, I'm damn you ABC. Yeah, other phones has small chance. I was trying to be too overly confident, but I did feel really good like after Yeah, I mean you both know because you've lived through it to this is now, you've done obviously Paradise a couple of years ago. But you know you can never get you too comfortable, just really to think, you know, you kind of have it in the bag. Something's I was thrown in the mix. Just like every season. I mean, we have seen now so many teasers for Paradise. Obviously they didn't give too too much away, but it looks super juicy. So without really giving us anything in detail, can you give us a little tease of what to expect. Something happened every day that we were on that beach, because I so I've seen the show before and I was just like, Okay, yeah, like there seems to be a lot of jama and stuff, but actually going through it, I'm just like, how are they going to put all up this? In my stuff was just happening all the time. Fights were happening, lost stories were happening. Like I was trying to focus on my situation the whole time, but it's just so in your face happening. I just came home super like exhaustic. I was just like, I've never heard there was like bat many emotions, drama and such like a short span of time, it's a lot. Well, let me ask you this because and we've all gone through a season of the Bachelor, so we kind of know how filming goes. What was the main difference between when you were on the Bachelor on Matt season versus Paradise, like sleep, Like, did you get more less on Paradise sket like, what was the main difference for you. The biggest difference for me was I actually got to spend time with the guy that I was interested in, because you know, Matt season, I got really close with a lot of like the girls in the house just because that's when you spend time with. And then Matt the Bachelor, I only got to see him maybe like ten minutes each week though on Paradise, and there was more kind of free roaming. It was kind of you can talk to who you want to talk to. It's not like a Cotfield party of Okay, you have ten minutes and then he has to go talk to somebody else. So it was nice I got to spend more time with if I was interested in somebody, like got to talk to them more. Um. But I mean that's not the biggest thing. But I mean there was just always some stuff happening too that I was just like, I kind of miss when it was more stretcher to like that because it was just like, I don't know, it was just it was a lot going up. But I think I was the biggest thing was just you have a little bit more control on who you want to talk to. Even being there too. There's so much that's going on that you miss everything and you're actually there in it. So when you watch back, like and you'll see the rest of the season two, like you'll notice stuff. You're like, where the heck was that when that was happening? I completely miss that. There's so much going on. I mean, that's like all the previews so far right now, like all the fights, like Aaron yelling and Carl yelling. I was like, wait, when did I It's like the speech must have been like a lot bigger than I thought. It was, like where I did not happen. There's so much that you miss, and not even in the big things like the big dramatic fights and moments like that. But even it's always one of my most well, I will say this one of the most fun things for me, And then one of the most nerve wracking things is hearing what people say in their itms and in their interviews about you or your relationship or situation that you're involved in. Like that part's always so interesting because no one has privy to any of that intel. It airs, but then you're like, it makes you happy sometimes and it kind of pisses you off sometimes. Where it's this weird like world that you're living in of you know, really hearing what people say about you good and bad behind your back. Oh, I just had a question for you, Oh, was it easier for Paradise because obviously it's co ed, there's a mix of men and women and so many different love stories unfolding versus just when you were on the batchelor it was obviously like the one lead and twenty five to thirty women vying for his heart. Is it easier knowing that because all these other relationships are forming, that it takes a little bit of the pressure off of you and whatever relationship you have with somebody. Not really mean, it's just different here. I feel like when there's one bachelor, you're kind of comparing yourself, like, okay, am I as far along in my relationship as you know, hit the other relationship. And it's a little bit different in Paradise because do you still kind of have that same pressure, but you're more kind of comparing yourself with like the other couples too, because I think for a lot of people there's like an end goal of Paradise. We're all kind of on the same timeframe of okay, or can we get there where we want to leave paradise together? Do we want to leave engage to each other? And if you see other couples, you know, saying I love you or talk about engagement, and then if you don't see yourself there, it's kind of getting your head up, Okay, well can we get there? Are we not into each other as much? Just just it's so hard to not compare yourself to all the couples in the house at the time because it's so in front of you all the time. So it's saying bit different because I feel like in the real world you don't really have to deal with comparing each other, right, So I'm saying, yeah, kind of saying a bit different, but that there's always pressure, always strong for some different ways. Did you like though, going back to the whole conversation with you and Noah on your first date, like and how you tend to move a little bit slower. Did you like now this change where things have to be a bit more sped up, you have to open up more about certain things and get to a certain level by a certain week, you know, just to try and stay longer on the beach and form that connection. Did you like that better or was it harder for you? Um? It was both. I liked it, but it was really hard for me, just because I think the environment pushes you to try out those hard conversations right away, but at the same time, you're also trying to protect yourself because you know Paradise is going to throw you loops and twists and all that, and so in my head, I was I was really appreciated that no one was pushing me to try to have those hard, hard conversations and open up. But at the same time, I was like, I want to and I like it, but I don't want to be all in and then the next week, you know, someone else come down the stairs, and then you know, I get hurt more. So it's it's a weird mix of it's a lot harder, but I mean I think it's better too, because I mean, at this point, like, obviously, what's somebody hasn't big working for me abyde it's moving too slow, and so I think she's kind of ripping up your aid off and saying, Okay, let's just have these conversations right away. If we click, that's great. Now we can kind of get it out of the way and then if we don't and we know sooner than later. It's nice to knowing that. I mean, obviously you had friends on Matt season of The Bachelor, but now knowing that you not only have the girls that you already knew beforehand, but you have new women and men that you're meeting that you form these friendships with that you can kind of lean on and navigate this crazy world with. Besides some of the girls that you were on Matt season with, who did you really hit it off with on the first day? Yeah, So I think Serena and I probably hit it off the mouse the first day, just because she was the second girl that came down, And so I think right from the beginning we kind of just were joined at the hip and kind of going through the experience in the first day, Like we hit it off with somebody the first day, so we kind of worked just each other south Bord kind of the whole season. I'm just talking about it kind of being in similar situations. And I mean she's great, She's very I mean she compinionated, but she's very in a very good way, like she's gonna tell you how I is. And an environment like that you need that, like you don't want someone just to tell you what you want to hear. So I would say Serina probably was the person from the very beginning. Okay, yeah, did you form any really close close friendships with any of the men besides Noah? Um, I mean all the guys were great. I think that was the thing I was not expecting. I was kind of expecting, like get to be very like boys and girls kind of like um, playing games and not really like just trying to be too flirty. But I mean, by the way, kind of felt like I developed like a brother sister relationship with some of them, just because they're so nice and just so friendly. And it got to the point where I was literally talking about like if I was having problems or if I was in my head one day, they were just like comestit by me and like you know, happy interest things like that, where it's just they were really really sweet. So it wasn't just like I wasn't just runs with the girls in the house. I love that. That's always one of the best parts about doing shows is the friendships that you make that will continue outside of what is being filmed. Well, we always love to play our little games here on Batchelor Happy Hour. So we're gonna do It's just going to be a quick, rapid fire. We're just gonna ask you a series of questions and basically we just want you to fill in the blank if you will. So, Tia, do you want to kick it off? Sure? Okay. So walking down to the beach, my first thought is blank. Oh shure, that's it. That would be mine too, I think. Okay, David Spade is blank, Data Spade is here, Okay, okay. Next one, the most important thing for me to pack is the most important thing for me to pack is some suits, for sure, because that is true this summer, I really hope to blank. Just summer. I hope to find love. Mm hmmm. I want to ask dis you but we'll have to tune in to find out out. Okay. Next one. When I got the first DAID card, I felt blank. I felt very excited. It was so fun. I was most surprised to see blank. I was most surprised to see Joe h as we all were. We love him, but we do love him. I asked Noah on the date because he is blank. I asked Noah on the date because he is a good time. I was hoping Blank was in one of the piniontas a person is this a person? What this means? It could be a person organ item. I was hoping. I was hoping that Blank was in one of the pinatas. I was coping. Um. I was hoping that like a like a card like um, like like a scavenger hunk kind of thing like there would be like as I Thoughtequila, I thought you were going to say, like a fantasy suite card already Okay, oh like I don't know. I'd loved scavenger hunks, and I kind of thought back like what it was. It was like, oh, like hit in like there's a game or something. Damn a deep producers next time. No, hopefully there's someday next time, ye, Laurie. Last one. If I had to describe the season of Bachelor in Paradise, it would be blank. If I had described the season of bachelorm Paradise, I would say, it's very crazy. Would dare you say? Is it the most dramatic season of Paradise yet? It's definitely the most dramatic. I am not ready to all that. I really think it is. I think I think it may maybe Actually I concur I would have to agree with that statement. Um, okay, actually I wanted to ask you this earlier and I totally forgot. But when you came to Paradise, obviously, you know, like the end goal is to find a partner, fall in love, get engaged, all the things. So when you walked down those steps, was it in the buck of your mind of like, Okay, I really do want to try and get engaged here, or were you more chill, relaxive, like I just want to find a partner, a boyfriend, somebody that I can you know, experience all of life outside of this with. Yeah. So originally, actually I had a lot of hesitations about coming on to Paradise just because I just really didn't know they could like it could work for me, you know, it's just finding someone in natural parade time and kind of going with the process. And so when I was walking down the stairs, I mean, obviously I was excited and I wanted to meet somebody, but just kind of the fact that I still kind of have those hapitations a little bit, and I didn't have someone really in mind from the very get go. I was just like, okay, it's kind of weird to think, like I could be walking up these stairs and just you know, three four weeks engaged to somebody. But then you know, like the way that things went the first day and how quickly I hit it off with Noah, it kind of started to become like more of a reality too. Of okay, I can tell her to see like how it works for some people where it became. I mean, it did become serious for me really quickly, so I think definitely open to you know, all the things that come at the end of paradise. But I mean it's like what Noah pointed out to her, and I'm like our first date, it's just I do move really slow. So I think it's it's a very like I was very serious about it, but just everything comes at the end of it too. It's also very scary and maybe I mean you'll probably see a lot of people, including myself, kind of come to terms with that too, kind of throughout the process. Yeah, one way, there's like one month, so yeah, it's like not a normal release of time. Yeah, you know, it's a really short amount of time. Well, ta, since you have gone through paradise once before, you know, you obviously lived filming and then the time in between filming and an airing. Right now, for Abigail, is there any advice that you would give her when this is all starting to air back and she's starting to watch everything unfold, Like, what would you like? What advice could you give to her right now during this moment? I would say, especially since you lived it, just try to remember how you felt in those moments, because there will be stuff that's cut out, there will be stuff that you wish was shown, But just try to remember how you felt in the experience at the time, and don't pay attention to what other people are saying. I struggled with that a lot after Paradise. My first round was just reading Twitter and reading dms and listening to trolls, and I was like, no, I had this experience. I was the one there. I was the one feeling the feelings. As long as you stay true to that, you'll be good. Don't read nasty dms because people are, yeah, psychotic, people love, but just know your truth and yes, that wasn't and at the end of the day, there's always going to be the haters and the trolls out there, but just know how much love and support, not only from your fans and followers, but from all of us too within Vachel Nation. How much we love you. We're here for you. M Yeah. I can't wait to see this all unfold and to see you on our screens every Monday and Tuesday. Abigail, Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you, thank you for joining us. You are welcome back anytime. We absolutely adore you. Thank you, thank you. I'll see you guys on the TV sex wee. Oh god, now the anxiety actually kicks in. Take my own advice. I absolutely adore Abigail since the moment we had her on Happy Hour the first time around, which feels like forever ago. She just is such a sweetheart, such a kind soul, so I really hope nothing but the best for her. If anyone messes with my baby, you have a chance er too. I know. I was always such a huge fan of her on Matt Season, and she just had that America's sweetheart vibe, and I love that. Coming into Paradise, She's like, I'm not just this sweet little thing, and she was like, I don't want to only talk about hearing loss. I want America to see me for who I am. And she was like, I like to have fun and I'd like to go out, and I'm like, hell yeah, girl, we're multidimensional around here. Yeah. Well I was actually I don't remember who I was talking to one of the girls who is friends with her who lives in New York. Maybe I was Natasha, I don't remember, But they were saying that, like Abigail, there's obviously there's so much more to anybody that's on the show, like that, you can't get to know anybody really for who they are in such a short amount of time. But they were saying, like how great Abigail is in real life, and like she's just fun and she's bubbly, and she's outgoing, she's all these things. And so that's why I love when people can do multiple seasons so you get to know them a little bit more for who they are. But also that's what's great about having them on the podcast. So I'm so happy Abigail could join us today. I can't wait to share with you who we have in the next coming weeks. We're gonna have some great guests, and T and I are just going to have the best effing time recapping this season. It's going to be a little nerve wracking for us, but they have to start putting alcohol in my coffee to record, Nate, this is called happy hour. It's okay. Throw some Bailey's in the coffee, have a mimosa, don't even put the orange juice in. You know what, Hey, this is work. It's never too early to drink to live up to the name. So you know, if you do it, I'll do it. We'll do it together. I think that was our motto for going into Paradise too, so literally, you do it, I'll do it. I'll do it. If I go down, you go down. Thank you for joining me today again, like this is going to be such a fun season to do with you. Thank goodness for you. Thank goodness that you've gone through this before so you can kind of give me pointers of what to expect for Paradise when this is all airing back. But I couldn't be doing this without my girl, So thanks Tia, huge thank you to Abigail for joining us today, and an even bigger thanks to all of our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. We love you, guys. Please make sure to hit us up on social if you don't already follow us. You can do so at Bachelor Happy Hour on Instagram and at Batched Nation pods on both Facebook and Twitter. And I have to remind everyone before we get off that because from here on out, Paradise will be airing two nights on Mondays and Tuesdays. You'll get a lot of Paradise time each week. The podcast will be coming out Wednesday mornings, so make sure you set your reminders, set your alarms, whatever you need to do to listen to us Wednesdays. Please don't forget to subscribe to us on our podcast. You can do that on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondering App, or wherever you are listening to us right now. Thanks everyone,