Hour 2 – CC Sabathia, Charlie Sheen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we really stumbled onto a topic here because people have send it in a lot of suggestions. I'll start first with would you rather be a Hall of Fame Pitcher Hall of Fame quarterback? Right now, sixty seven percent of the audience would rather be the quarterback most infamous interview and show history. The options we have up there right now are Charlie Sheen, Matt Harvey, Kyler Murray, and then Brady Hoak put up there. That's more of an infamous moment than a full interview.

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Speaker 2: But it was pretty great.

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Speaker 1: Not good.

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Speaker 2: Eight seven to seven to three, DP show email address, DP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handling TP show Tigers Advance, Cubs Advance, Yankees advance, and a great weekend. Cubs, Brewers, Yankees, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Phillies, Tigers, and the Mariners. C C. Sabbathia Hall of Famer World Series champ with the Yankees back in nine. MLB's postseason continues this weekend the Divisional Series TBS, Fox, Fox Sports one MLB Network airing pre and postgame coverage. Good to see you again. How old were you with your first playoff game?

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Speaker 4: I was twenty twenty years old my first playoff game pitched in I just turned twenty one, I'm sorry, pitching the playoff game in two thousand and one against the Mariners, that team that had won when they won one hundred and fourteen games, So I pitched game three of that series.

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Speaker 2: What do you remember like being twenty one? How can that help you in a situation like that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it can help you by not knowing what you're walking into and not understanding, you know, the gravity or the magnitude of the games you're pitching. But for me, you know, being a huge fan and sports fan my whole life and understanding you know what it meant to be an ace. You know, I'm throwing that up there with air quotations. Being twenty one years old, I wanted to go out and you know, have that postseason that everybody's like, oh my god, look at this guy. You know, he's the greatest pitcher. Jared Wright had just did that in ninety seven. You know, he was the young guy and took that team all the way to the World Series. So you know that was kind of my thinking. I got into the game and you know, I was a little nervous. I think I gave a three runs in the first inning and I'm walking off the field and Robbie Alamar comes and he goes, hey, you know how you feeling. I'm like, you know, I'm good, I'll be fine, and he as we're walking back to the bench, he looked and he says, don't shake off en Ard.

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Speaker 5: The rest of the game. N R.

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Speaker 4: D As was our catcher. He was like, whatever he puts down, just call the pitchers. So I you know, didn't shake him off. Go six innings, give up three runs. The only three runs I gave it was in that first inning. And after the game they tell me that Robbie was calling the pitchers from second base.

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Speaker 5: Robbie called the game from second base, just went out.

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Speaker 2: What's it like when Ken Griffy Junior comes to the play.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't on that team. He wasn't on that That was Yeah, So that was e Rose rookie year. That was Mike Cameron, Uh, you know Brett boone those guys. Uh So that was that. That was that first year. He had just went to uh Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and each row had your number.

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Speaker 4: Each row hit me good. That he hit me good up until I figured out I had to move his feet.

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Speaker 5: Once I figured out I had to move his feet, and I'd get him uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: Then then at my later part of my career, I started having some success against.

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Speaker 2: Each ye explain that moving your feet just.

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Speaker 4: Like getting him off his spot. You know, he was just he would be super comfortable in the box. And you know, for me, you know, I need to be able to you know, command the inside part of the play to a lefty and be able to throw my slider down on the way. At that time, when I was twenty one years old, I only threw like a big looping curve ball. I didn't have a slider at that time, so I really had nothing to get him out with. And then accidentally, one time when I was in New York, they came to New York, and I actually do he threw one up and in like literally just got away and it swooped him, you know. And ever since then I was like, oh, okay, all right, I figured it out. Now, So after that matter, you know, I would throw one kind of clothes and then I would just go to work.

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Speaker 2: Cam Schlitter had eleven pitches of one hundred miles per hour or more. That seems to be the norm. Now, I'm surprised when guys don't throw one hundred miles an hour. Where's this going?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But the way he commanded it last night, you know, I mean he was just just filling it up, just strike after strike. I mean I sat down really close. I was, you know, right next to the Boston Red Sox, you know, on deck circle. He was throwing BB's. I mean it looked like he was throwing two hundred miles an hour and he's got an eighty four mile an hour slider, you know what I mean. So that difference in miles an hour is just such a huge you have to really pick one. As soon as you start picking one and guessing one, then you're laid on the heater and you know, he throws two of those and it's oh two. So I mean the way I mean, there's a lot of guys that can throw hard, right, but the way he commanded the baseball last night was very impressive.

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Speaker 2: I remember Mark Grace saying, I'll hit your fastball. I'm going to hit the fastball because I it's the breaking ball. And it always comes back to the breaking ball, you know, because he said, we see a hundred, if it's not moving, we'll hit it. But I don't know, like, is there a big difference between ninety six and one hundred.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, I do think so. I mean, honestly, I haven't stood in the box and face either one.

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Speaker 5: But when I.

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Speaker 4: Hear these guys talk, you know, I heard Julio Rodriguez the other day talking about his ideal fastball, like what what would be the miles an hour?

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Speaker 5: And you know, to me.

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Speaker 4: When I was coming up, it would have been like, you know, I would think ninety two, ninety three, Like he's like, I needed ninety six mile hour fastball. So for him to even be thinking like ninety six is a perfect hitting speed is insane because, like I said, when I was coming up or you know, during my time, there just wasn't guys that were able to do that consistently like it is now. So that I mean, that's the hitting speed which is crazy. And like you said, where does it go? I have no idea. I mean, you got kids in high school right now, you know, top of one hundred, and you know, just getting bigger, fashion and stronger. So but but if you can't command it, if you can't throw strikes with it, there's really no point of you being able to throw that hard.

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Speaker 2: But if you're throwing that hard, is the philosophy going to continue to be throw as hard as you can for as long as you can, and then we bring in somebody else?

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Speaker 4: I think, so, I think unless we kind of change the rules, right or do something that can you know, help you know, starting pitching, you know, develop, I mean even in the even in the lower stages you go to some of these perfect game tournaments or all this stuff. You know, I had a twenty two year old, I got a fifteen year old going through it now. I mean they're pitching that four inning clips, you know what I mean, where they go out in these tournaments and the four innings, but the best stuff that you have and then we'll bring somebody else in. So they're even being trained to not even be a starting pitcher, right, Like you have to go five innings to get a win, and these you know, the kids are coming up where they're.

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Speaker 5: Not even qualifying get wins.

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Speaker 4: So I think something has to change where you know, we get back to you know, starting pitching, because that's what kind of like when it was Dave Stewart against you know, whoever else, that's when you want to watch the game. When it's Roger Clemans against you know Pedro, that's the top billing, right, That's that's how you get god people to watch baseball throughout the season when you can have these starting pitching matchups.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to CC Sabathia, the Hall of Famer, joining us on behalf of MLB's postseason coverage. How do you explain Clayton Krushaw's curveball.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's it's it's really twelve to six and it's, uh, you know, it's one of those things we were talking about the other day, you know, really just kind of him and Barry Zito have had that, you know, left handed curveball where you can throw a fastball at the top of the zone and then throw that curveball off of that thing, and you know, hitters really have no chance. I mean, and even this year, I feel like, you know, he's pitching so free and understanding and knowing that you know, no matter what happens, his legacy is cemented, right Like he's going to the Hall of Fame. He's got three thousand strikeouts, World Series. He's one of the best pictures of the generation. So I feel like this year he's been pitching more free and you've seen you've been seeing great results. So I'm excited hopefully for to get a start in this playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Anybody similar to show Heyo Tawi if you were recall facing somebody that was similar to Otani, No, I mean.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think there's anybody. I mean, I guess, I guess you you can say Barry, but you know, Barry can't go out and throw seven and he shut out Bass.

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Speaker 2: Let me take away the pitch. Let me let me take away the pitching part of it. I'm talking about facing a batter.

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Speaker 4: The best I mean left handed. No, there is nobody left handed that I feel like I faced.

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Speaker 5: That that was that good.

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Speaker 2: I mean Bonds, Yeah, I mean I didn't.

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Speaker 5: Face Bonds a lot.

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Speaker 4: I was that I was in the American League, face him one time in All Star Game, so you know I didn't get a chance to face him that much.

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Speaker 5: But you know, like for me, it would have to be like a poo hoos.

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Speaker 4: Or you know, Manny Ramirez or you know, Miguel Cabrera. Those were all just the hardest guy for me to get out. And I would have to imagine show hates the same way. I mean, you know, we show up to LA and you know, he's four pitches in, he hits one hundred mile hour fastball on the inside part of the play like out. I mean, he's the way he shows up on you know, on que you know, like we go to Tokyo DOMI it's a home run in Tokyo Dome in Japan. Like the way that he can show up in a baseball game and impact a game is incredible.

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Speaker 2: But how defeating is it the first guy you face hits a home run?

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Speaker 4: No, I mean when you're starting. And I think that was always my problem. I never felt like I was out of it. Like even when they were coming to get the ball, I could be seven giving up seven runs in the third inning and I'm like nah, like I'm right there.

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Speaker 5: I'm total pitchers away from getness right.

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Speaker 4: So for me, it was always like no, no, no, I could get this thing on track.

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Speaker 5: So I've never felt defeated. I think that was always my problem.

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Speaker 2: When did you learn or how did you learn about the rivalry with the Red Sox Yankees when you know you were Cleveland and Milwaukee then you go to New York. Well, are you taught to hate the Red Sox?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: I think it's just something that happens.

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Speaker 4: And I think you know, throughout the Al East, I think with the Yankees, it can be different teams at different times, right, Like there's always the rival between the Yankees and the Red Sox, and you understand that. You know that when you came over, like I remember you know that first year on nine it was the end of April. It was the first time we were going into Boston and it felt like, you know, they were talking about like it was a playoff series. We had just signed all these guys, myself, switch Tech, Shara aj Burnett, and you know, the way that they talked about that series, you know, you would have thought that it was you know, October. So that was kind of my introduction to it. But you know, there could be points, you know, we had fights with Toronto. There was times in you know when Baltimore was the best in the division. I just feel like even Tampa. I feel like, whoever feels like they're the best team in that division feels like they have to go through New York. And that's kind of, you know, the way it's always been. So you know, there's always different times at different points where we can have in the al least, we can have rib Ruby anybody, but we understand how big the one in Boston is, especially when you're playing in playoff games against them.

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Speaker 2: Your assistant to the commissioner, he was on recently talking about the automated balls and strikes. You had a couple of bad calls in the Padres Cubs game last night, foregone conclusion that we're going to have automated balls and strikes full time soon.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's I don't know full time.

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Speaker 4: You know, I know that challenge system, you know, with to help last night, right, you know, just having a chance to you know, I think what you know Rob always says is the catch the big mess. And you know that was a pretty big mess in that game last night, where you know Padres has some momentum, Jackson Merriw goes deep, you get a good at bat by Xander and then he gets caught out on the pitch that's out of the strike zone. You know, for me understanding these guys today, this generation of players, they know the strike zone. They know balls and strikes so well. And I feel like when you know, when I played, there was only a few guys that you can really count on the no ball and strikes. Like Brett Gardner was a guy that I could always people play center field or he'd be out there and I could always look at him and be like, you think that was a ball or strike and I could trust his opinion. But now every one of these guys, if you watching the game, and we know that box on the screen is not very accurate. But if the ball's not in that box, will run that box. Those guys know what it's the ball over a strike and to be able to just to fix that that big miss and those type of games, or in any game at the end of the game, you know, or at any point, I think it'd be great. You know, I love that only the hitter, the catcher, and the pitcher can call it. You know, has to be entertaining us. And you know, I just think about myself. You know, it'd be first pitch of the game and I'll be tapping on top.

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Speaker 5: Of my helper so stap in my hat.

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Speaker 4: So you know, they got to put some rules in place when you can and can't and who can and can't.

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Speaker 5: So but I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with you. Thanks, talk to you later. Thank you, Ceci Yes sir. MLB postseason continues this weekend. You got the divisional series TBS, Fox, Fox Sports one MLB network airing pre and postgame coverage Charlie Sheen fourteen years later.

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Speaker 2: It was almost fourteen years ago that we had Charlie Sheen on and he was going through some negotiations with two and a half Men and CBS and he had gotten suspended and I saw him doing it an interview. He was giving a lecture or tips. He was taking batting practice with the UCLA baseball team, and his words of advice were, don't do crack during chocolate milk. And I said, Paully, reach out and see if Charlie wants to join us. And really that's all we were going to do. We were just going to talk about that, but I want to play a portion of that conversation that I had with him. And this was on not being allowed on the lot at CBS for two and a half men. How'd you lose your voice?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I went back to work, and you know I was. I was banging on a day's door. Allow, where's everybody? And I don't know what happened. I guess they're closed.

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Speaker 2: They won't let you back in.

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Speaker 9: I died. Nobody told me. Nobody told me. I just figured out I was supposed to go back to work because I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you're on hiatus.

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Speaker 9: No, we're unforced hiatus. They said you get ready, we'll get ready, and I got ready.

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Speaker 6: I went back.

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Speaker 9: Nobody's there. I don't know to tell you that nobody's there?

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Speaker 2: Well, wait, how do they tell you? You're the star of two and a half men? So do you who decides when you get to you can't do one and a half man?

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Speaker 9: No, And that was clearly revealed when they had to bring me back this year. You know, I don't know what to tell you, man. I'm just I'm here and I'm ready. They're not bring it.

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Speaker 2: You know, when are you scheduled to start shooting.

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Speaker 9: Again, I believe August of twenty fourteen. At this pace, I don't know. It's supposed to be like the twenty eighth or the twenty nine. That's what it is. The twenty ninth and a non leap.

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Speaker 2: Year, all right. So that was almost fourteen years ago, and then all of a sudden it blew up. After that, Charlie called us, I think three consecutive days, and he was clearly on something. We didn't know exactly what was going on. He dropped the Winning and Tiger Blood, and then he came out with a New York Times best selling book, The Book of Sheen, and his Netflix documentary aka Charlie Sheen. So I said to Fritzie had time to have Charlie back on. So I'm thinking now we talked to him a couple of days ago, and I thought he would give credit to us in the book or in the documentary for the interviews that started all of this, everything that happened to him, the falling out, getting fired, whatever he was smoking, whoever he was with, everything that he went through. So my first question was, what role did this show play in all of this mess?

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Speaker 6: What role you mean this show that we're on right now.

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Speaker 2: My show twenty eleven when you called.

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Speaker 6: Oh, interesting, interesting. I don't have any specific recollection of any fallout or or any you know, positive response from it. Did it? Did it go sideways on your show? It did?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? And were you personally put in in the line of fire or in any danger?

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Speaker 2: No, but you called in and then you said, hey, ask Dan where I am? And you were on the outside of CBS Chuck Lorie, and then you were It exploded after that because you're basically saying I'm off the show, I'm out of here, and then it went crazy.

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Speaker 6: Wow, So is it? Was it like I announced it with you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Interesting?

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Speaker 2: Wait you don't remember any of this?

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Speaker 6: I don't. Do you have a do you have a clip you can play?

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Speaker 2: I can send you a clip to remind you. But that's that's when you gave us winning and you gave us tiger blood. All of a sudden, the networks are calling me. They want me to go on these shows to talk about you and.

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Speaker 6: To ask like why I reached out to you, to to send like my final message, or or to light the lamp.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't get you, so they thought that I said, I don't know, Charlie, but they wanted me to speak on your behalf. I sent you a text and said, Hey, all of these network shows and entertainment tonight they want me on. I'm not going to go on and speak on your behalf, just so you know. And then then you, I think, said f them, and then I think you did winning, and then that was it.

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Speaker 6: So wow wow, Okay, yeah, I'm sorry that I uh that that was scrubbed from my.

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Speaker 9: Thought.

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Speaker 2: I thought there was going to be something in the book about it. I thought, okay, because you know, there is part of me that felt bad about that. Oh, because you were on three times in a row, and I I remember having a conversation with my wife, I said, I feel like I'm taking advantage of Charlie because you were clearly a wounded animal.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. Yeah, but I think I would look at that more through the lens of that that you that I saw you as a as a as a safe outlet, that I saw you as a as a as a confidant. I could I could, you know, I could reach out to and and you know, deliver some type of message that I couldn't elsewhere, regardless of how insane that message was at the time, you know.

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Speaker 2: But you were taking batting practice at UCLA and I saw this, and you had a message to the team, stay off crack and drink chocolate milk. And so I said to Fritzie, and that is great advice.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I said that, Fritzie, see if we can get Charlie on. And then that's when it exploded. But it started just because you were taking VP and you were giving a message to UCLA Baseball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. No, that was I guess one of just the last traces of of you know, a healthy, uh, you know, a wholesome moment. It's interesting because Tony Todd I think you know Tony right, he's in He's been in my life for a thousand years. Lovely man. He says that in that specific group that I delivered because the coach said, hey, go talk to the guys. I think they'd lost the final game and we're a little bit down. I think it was the same core team members and he said, go see if you can give them a pep talk. And so I was like trying to come up with something on like the fifty foot walk, and that's when I said, uh, don't smoke crack. And you know, drink chocolate milk. It turned into a T shirt. But he says that that Trevor Bauer was was in that in that grouping that that yeah, that the members that I you know, shared that that that wisdom with and there was a couple others that that are now playing professionally. So that's that's pretty interesting. So clearly they none of them smoked crack and but obviously kept drinking chocolate milk. Right.

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Speaker 2: Tougher to write the book or do the documentary, write.

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Speaker 6: The book, Write the book, for sure, Yeah, because the doc was a it was a it was difficult. The doc required so much research and archival and just you know, building the visual representation from all the you know, all the materials for the whole backstory and the and the journey. So but the book was was me alone, staring at a screen night after night.

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Speaker 2: You know, did you ever get mad at yourself while you're writing the book?

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Speaker 6: Interesting question, madam myself for you mean, like on a on a literary level, or for like writing for the things that happened that I'm now that I'm now sharing. There were moments, yeah, there there there were moments. It was exciting to to to tell the stories, you know, and you know for the first time how they actually happened. But it was also you know, there there was moment, there were moments of reflection where I was like, wow, man, how did it? How did it go there? How did it? You know? Where was uh? Where was I don't want to say, like, you know, where was someone to step in and and you know, tap me on the shoulder and pulled the train back into the station. There weren't a few moments where that that could have happened, and I but I don't know if I would have been receptive to it, you know. But yeah, no, the some of the anger did come out of you know, telling these stories in detail as they occurred, but still like it didn't This could have been a three page chapter and not twenty five to one.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Is that your home where you are right now?

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Speaker 6: Correct? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any of your memorability? I remember you saying to you you knew you had too much memorabilia when you had a Ted Williams away jersey or something in your underwear drawer.

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Speaker 6: It was a forty one road jersey? About that? How about that? And back then I think they had like one you know home, Yeah, and one Road, Jersey. Yeah yeah, yeah, well it right next to my underbre drawer. It Uh, there wasn't a case built yet for it. I'd run out of wall and hallway space, you know. But I knew in that moment, yeah I have.

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Speaker 8: I have.

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Speaker 6: I've arrived at a place of hoarding. And that's not that's that's that's not good. That helps no one.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any of that memorabilia around?

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Speaker 6: I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 2: You sold I did?

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Do you remember Josh Evans, Josh Leland Evans from Leland's the Big Aunt yea, yeah, yeah, he sadly passed away like four or five years ago, and but he he put together the Charlie Sheen auction, but it didn't include the Ruth contract and the Ruth ring. I think that was done separate of that, you know, or from that.

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Speaker 2: Any part of you ever wish you weren't an actor or hadn't become an actor, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's been there, there's been moments where I've had those feelings. I've had those thoughts and just tried to imagine what any of it would have looked like without.

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Speaker 2: That, because it kind of gave you a whole pass. You were really good at your craft. But because of that, then open doors and windows and you know everything.

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Speaker 6: But oh yeah, no, it was it was, it was, it was you know, all access backstage and then some but it yeah, but it's I think, you know, one of the central themes of the book is that it's all about choices, you know, and it's like, I'll be out in the world and people will say, you know, they'll see like a lot of attention in photos and autographs stuff like that, and they'll say, does this ever bother you? And I said, well, you know, if I, if I don't want to be bothered, the solution to that is don't leave your house, right, And then I and then the other side of that is, you know, you worry about the day they stopped me up, right, So just sort of on on the on on the choices front, you know, all access is an amazing place to wind up, but it just then it's it's on the person to then navigate the stuff to embrace and the stuff to not do that with, you know, And I sort of went for all of it. You know.

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Speaker 2: Was there an actor who outpartied you?

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Speaker 6: That's still alive.

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Speaker 2: Well, they hopefully they're not dead because of out partying you. But right right right, like a musician or an actor who outpartied you.

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Speaker 6: I think there would there would more likely be a rock star. You mean that. I actually saw that with my own eyes. We partied together and I had to you tagged out. I called it a night, and he kept going. You know, there was actually one guy. There was one guy, and it's just it sucks because you know he ultimately got clean and then died in a freaking car crash outside of Vegas. And that was Sam Kennison. Sam would you couldn't. I couldn't keep up with him, you know. It was Yeah, there were nights when I was like, all right, buddy, thank you, this is amazing. The last four days have been amazing. But I'm gonna I'm gonna go sleep for about seventy hours and he'd still be going.

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Speaker 2: You know. Is Charlie Sheen The New York Times best selling book A Book of Sheen, Netflix documentary aka Charlie Sheen are both out. Now give me the movie role that kind of represents you who you really are.

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Speaker 6: In a film that I was in or somebody else's movie that you were in.

00:28:53
Speaker 2: Like what role did you not really have to play a role?

00:29:00
Speaker 6: I think the the closest example would be Two and a half Men. I know you said film.

00:29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I think that's.

00:29:12
Speaker 6: The one that that really borrowed from just a lot of but it borrowed from the fun stuff, didn't borrow from the dangerous, crazy stuff. You know.

00:29:22
Speaker 2: How do you apologize when? Or do you or can you apologize?

00:29:29
Speaker 6: Yeah? And this is not trying to be cute, but hopefully and and most of the time in person, in person, and and it's it's funny. I was just talking to a buddy of mine about this just the other day that and I told him that we can't insist we we can't determine other people's timelines for them to come to a place, uh, to to be receptive, to be open to that to that message, you know. But it's it's there's still people, there's still folks out there that I need to have a sit down with, you know, or just at least get on the phone or you know, one of these. But for the most part, the people in my life who matter the most, that's that that that that's already taken place and it's an ongoing process, you know.

00:30:27
Speaker 2: But even in the documentary, your brother talks fondly about you. The dad stuff is heartbreaking because your your dad. He loved you, but he couldn't he couldn't get you. And uh that that's kind of what hit me pretty hard there is You're right there in front of him and he can't really do anything about it.

00:30:49
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, that was one of the one of the one of the moments for me watching it. I I think, I say in the doc I can't imagine being my dad. Yeah, you know, and then you know, people are asking, well, why wasn't he in it? Right? And he watched the rough cut of the first episode and he was over the moon about it and super supportive, and he was, yeah, he's honored and flattered you know how we included him. And he said, look, I'm I'm already in it that I don't I don't need to, you know, give it. You know today's commentary on all that stuff. It's it's it's better telling the story like that, you know.

00:31:32
Speaker 2: More likely to do a sequel to Major League or Wall Street major.

00:31:38
Speaker 6: League major League.

00:31:40
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:31:41
Speaker 6: In fact, it's interesting not to not to get out over my skis with this, but there has been a dialogue about it as as as.

00:31:50
Speaker 2: You a long time.

00:31:53
Speaker 6: That's true, that's true. Yeah, it was.

00:31:57
Speaker 2: So you got a script in the make it here or an idea for no.

00:32:01
Speaker 6: No, But there's there's there's a new there's a company involved that is that is very interested that I'm already in business with with the Docs, and that's that that could deliver something I think the fans have been waiting for for a long time. And and don't worry, I'm not going to be a player. I would show up in the in the capacity of coach or manager or or you know, a pitching coach or something. But now it's interesting, this was just discussed yesterday.

00:32:30
Speaker 2: Do you still throw? Do you still take batting practice? You do any of that?

00:32:35
Speaker 6: Got a kind of a I gotta I got a bad shoulder I'm dealing with. There's a thing that Tony Todd and I do on our birthday, his and mine every year, where we we throw without dropping a single toss, we throw the amount of tosses that equals our age. So it's been this this thing and we hope one day, you know, count to one hundred.

00:33:02
Speaker 2: You're lucky to have Tony in your life.

00:33:04
Speaker 6: I am, I am.

00:33:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably kept you alive a few times.

00:33:09
Speaker 6: Yeah, when he was just always knowing that he was, you know, either right down the hall or right at the next table, or at the table or or just you know along for that part of the journey. No, it was, it was, it was. It was. It was a lovely security blanket. Now I'm going to reduce him to that because he was was in those moments so much more than that. But it was, it was, it was. It was a comforting energy.

00:33:37
Speaker 2: Was great to talk to you again. Good luck with you, and uh, stay happy.

00:33:44
Speaker 6: That's great advice and I'm going to follow it.

00:33:47
Speaker 2: And once again, don't do crack and drink chocolate.

00:33:50
Speaker 6: Milk noted noted and you have my word. Thank you, Charlie, right, I thank you that I appreciate it. Be well.

00:34:00
Speaker 2: The book is the book is Sheen and is Netflix documentary aka Charlie Sheen. Both are out now. Wow, fourteen years ago and he had no recollection of it. But he looked good, look refreshed, and hopefully he can get some jobs start acting again. What a wild ride. Wow, We'll take a break, We'll get phone calls coming up. We'll talk some football preview the weekend in the NFL. Kurt Warner will stop by. We're back after this and Patrick's show.

00:34:33
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00:35:43
Speaker 10: Yes, Paul, remember a game we talked about a couple months ago that we thought would be big Clemson at North Carolina noon on ESPN. Clemson favored by thirteen and a half. This is a cleanup day for Bill Belichick, though he could clean up the entire month of September.

00:36:00
Speaker 2: And what if Clemson loses this game?

00:36:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, nikes.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: Bill needs a big win, big win. There's still reports out there he got engaged, that he's engaged. I'm like, all right, I don't know if they've announced it, celebrated it. You know, it's like a Taylor Swift Travis Kelcey type announcement. Although Taylor's new book or new album, what is it? Showgirls is from a show girl? Yeah, I think it dropped last night. There's a lot of uh, she's in love. There's a there's a lot of references to love in there. You know, usually it's about a scorned X and there's a couple of them in there. I think, yes, Marvin.

00:36:45
Speaker 11: So we don't have to ask what you're doing this weekend.

00:36:48
Speaker 2: I am going to be driving to Maine and I will listen to the album.

00:36:52
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still trying to process folklore in its entirety and how this happens.

00:36:57
Speaker 2: I just who knew that she was going to drop another but she's in love now.

00:37:02
Speaker 3: I think this one's more about friends. It seems like she's going after all of her ex friends rather than ex boyfriends. Well, I think that's at least my early analysis is that I think.

00:37:12
Speaker 2: Blake Lively probably catches some strays, and then Joe Alwyn, her former, I think he might catch some strays in here.

00:37:21
Speaker 10: You're breaking this down. Yes, I am Jaworski in NFL Films.

00:37:25
Speaker 2: At one point, I think there's a lyric that refers to Travis Kelcey as a Redwood. I think the name of the song is Wood. There's some lyrics in there that are a little sexual.

00:37:42
Speaker 10: Parental advisor Yeah, yes, yeah, Paul, you could rhy him a lot of things with Kelsey and that's an easy jealousy. You can make that work with.

00:37:51
Speaker 2: That or Wood.

00:37:52
Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw somebody say that it's like Taylor Swift hit Travis Kelcey's factory reset button.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: Oh the other day. Yeah, a that is true.

00:38:01
Speaker 3: Yes, with his whole, his whole everything has shifted.

00:38:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, upon meeting her with what he normally orders. When he goes through the drive through, you got a completely different menu, like.

00:38:13
Speaker 3: Somebody hit his factory reset buttons all of a sudden, his hair's parted the hell yes, Marvin.

00:38:19
Speaker 11: Yes, you can tell who he's dating by just the way he looks, oh yeah, like okay, Taylor, now.

00:38:24
Speaker 10: Khakis huh yes, with sleeves on and completing.

00:38:27
Speaker 2: Sentences Hawaiian shirts. Okay, yes, Todd.

00:38:30
Speaker 5: The world would be a much.

00:38:31
Speaker 6: Better place if we use music to express our animosity or our differences.

00:38:35
Speaker 2: So good for thank you, Todd.

00:38:37
Speaker 6: If only we just used music for hatred or it beats that we had with one another.

00:38:42
Speaker 2: It's your music that brings about hatred for me.

00:38:46
Speaker 6: So yes, that's true.

00:38:48
Speaker 2: By the way, rhyme time, Todd is going to bring that to you next hour. Rhyme time. How about who had the best week in sports? Todd?

00:38:57
Speaker 6: The best week in sports? I'm going to go with the New York Yankees after yesterday's performance and their rookie pitcher dominating in that kind of environment. In a winner take all situation, I'll give it to the Bronx Bombers.

00:39:09
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful when you pronounce whose name is last name?

00:39:11
Speaker 6: Why I avoided this?

00:39:12
Speaker 2: I know Cam schlitter Seaton. Who had the best week in sports? Oh, well, you're.

00:39:19
Speaker 3: Gonna hate this, but I'm gonna say it's Nashville SC, the MLS team. They won the US Open Cup, which is I think their first ever major championship. And I don't know that the city of Nashville has ever had a major championship, and this does count as a major championship, believe it or not.

00:39:35
Speaker 2: I'm going to Nashville SC. Let's go Marvin. Best week in sports.

00:39:39
Speaker 11: I got the Detroit Tigers after losing the Aos Central after an awful month and a half, they come back. They beat the Guardians and now the advance of the Alds.

00:39:47
Speaker 10: Paul recency bias. I'm gonna go Mac Jones. You're three and oh as a starter, six touchdowns, one pick. You're twenty seven years old. Even if you don't play much the rest of the season, you have new juice in your career. You may get an shot to run a franchise.

00:40:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, played well, so I didn't think there'd be much of a drop off. He's very similar to brock Purty. But if you know, brock Perdy fell into your lap and mac Jones did too. No credit the forty nine ers there with all the injuries and you beat the Rams in Los Angeles, and uh, you know that. I don't know if that's one of those games you look back on and you go, man, that costs them whatever, because we tend to look at the games and the results at the end of a season and go, oh my gosh. Because of that, they didn't know there's games prior to that could be the first month of the season where you lose a game or there's a tie. Yes, Marvin, And.

00:40:41
Speaker 11: For forty nine Ers fans, we're probably all thinking, like I am, we probably.

00:40:45
Speaker 2: Should have had this guy all along, mac Jones. We took three Lance instead of mac Jones, but then you went down brock Purty.

00:40:52
Speaker 5: Tomato, Tomato.

00:40:53
Speaker 2: Final hour coming up, Kurt Warner, speaking of quarterbacks, will join us. More of your phone calls as well. Two hours in the books, one more to go on this meet Friday,