Is Teleportation Possible?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Daniel, do you ever wish you could be in one place at one moment and then be in a totally different place the next moment. Well, since I live in southern California, I'm definitely often stuck in traffic and want to get somewhere faster. But are you talking about getting like a Lamborghini Uber? Yeah, like an instant uber. Instant uber. Yet be myself across town instead of having to sit on the four or five. That would be wonderful. Well, you know, I imagine a lot of the people listening to this podcast are listening to it in their cars, maybe subway, or while walking to work or walking to class. All those intermediate times right, otherwise wasted if you weren't listening to such an awesome podcast. Yeah, that's right. We're helping you not waste time. Wouldn't it be great if it's just pop over from one place in the other. That would be wonderful. Do you think that's even possible? I don't know that you're the physicist. Tell me is do you think something like that as possible or do you think there ever will be possible? Listen to this episode and you'll find up hi import and I'm Daniel, and this is Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe, where we explain everything in the universe and outside of the universe, the impossible and the possible, the universe, the multiverse, the single verse, the nonverse, every verse, the verse, the lift verse, the verse verse. Today we're talking about whether or not something is impossible technology that everybody wants. At least everybody who's out there sitting in traffic or is wasted time in an elevator or climbing upstairs has wanted to get somewhere faster. Is it possible to get somewhere instantaneously? Is teleportation actually possible? So, as usual before we dive into this question and try to answer whether or not this incredible idea from science fiction could actually be science one day we went out we asked people on the street, do you think help ortation is possible? Here's what they had to say. I'm not sure. My gut says yes. There's a physical lot of preventive so maybe nor um No. That seems far fetched to me, even far in the future, even now, I think people are already coming up with ideas of it. But I just think that people are keeping it hidden and maybe secretive and fear of other countries. Are companies or other people just monetizing it before they do or something? So what do you think of people's answers? Forge So nobody seems to think that it's possible. Yeah, people seem to think like, wow, that's too far for even science to get to. I like the one that said, I'm sure somebody's working on it, but they don't want to tell anybody. I know that person has watched too many movies where the scientists are really smart and also evil scientists. And I've noticed this trend. By the way, excuse me for a digression of a rant that in recent movies scientists are always evil. There's no good science characters. They're always like out for the pursuit of knowledge, you know, and regardless of the consequences, and they just have to know this is a great opportunity, and I really want to develop this technology no matter what harm comes to humanity. And that frustrates me, because you know, scientists were out there trying to help people out, trying to improve the world. We're not just here to make weapons. They certainly think highly of themselves in their laptots and glasses. Yeah, I wonder where that stereotype came from, Daniel, I don't know. All the scientists I know are very humble. We're all excellent at being humble. There's no humors here. All the awesome scientists and me and my friends are We're all very humble. But you know, there is a complex relationship between scientists and science fiction or you know, the public in general, or the public thinks things like oh I wish we could have you know, um transponders, or we could talking to a little thing, or flying cars, or the internet, televisions or the internet. Yeah, a lot of these things came out of either popular imagination or science fiction, and then scientists picked it up and said, well, let's see, maybe that is possible. Let's try to make it work. Right. Have you seen those YouTube videos where somebody actually made like a real working ironman's suit? Oh my god, have you seen those? No, that sounds terrifying. This guy's trapped like a little turbine engines to his back, to his arms with his legs, and he's like literally flying around. Well in the movies. That totally changes the balance of power in the world and has massive geopolitical consequences and also rescues Robert Downe Junior's acting career. That's right, yeah, um, but often when scientists come up with this technology, it does have consequences, right. It does change the way society functions, and it changes the way politics work. And certainly when you develop a new kind of weapon, right, and the ideas for those weapons can change the way the world works. So it's it's fun to think about how the ideas come from the public and then end up in science and then go back and change the way society works. So, um, sometimes people think of stuff and we can't actually make it happen. Well, I would say probably teleportation is right up there with flying. Like, if they could get one superpower, most people would pick flying or teleportation. Laser eyes. Come on, man, it'd be laser eyes. Everybody wants to laser eyes. Is that really practical? Though? Your looks could kill? Okay, we're talking about superpower. Is not about practical stuff here, Jorge. Well, you know, I was walking to school the other day with my son and he's like, he asked me, like, which superpower would you like to have? And I was like, oh, I would love to fly. And he's like, I want to teleport. He said that, so I can be It's cool right now? Yeah, did you offer him laser eyes? I mean, did you understand that. I think we need to go back and make sure he's fully informed. Yeah. Well, time travel is probably another popular one, so I could go back and ask him. See. But there's a big difference between flying and teleprotation. The difference is that you can see other things flying. It's obvious why flying is something you want to do. You see birds fly all the time. It looks awesome, right, But teleprotation is a weird one because you've never seen anything teleport. Nobody has ever seen anything teleport. Where does the idea for it even come from? Right? Why is it that we can imagine these these things that could be impossible because they did it in movies, right, movies and TV shows. It's super easy to fake teleportation, you just cut right. But that's the opposite, right, they portrayed in TV shows and in movies, after somebody had the idea maybe this could be possible, right, that's the depiction of it. But where does the idea come from? I always think it's fascinating when as humans we think of a concept which is impossible, right. We think of an idea, an idea which is it can only exist in the abstract. You know, we've never actually seen. It's come from inside our own heads. My theory is that this idea of teleprotation came directly from laziness. So I'm pretty sure there was you know, caveman or cave woman sitting around and they're like, man, I'm really hungry. I need to go to that tree to eat, but I'm really lazy. I wish I so wish I could just be there without having to make the effort to walk there, you know, I see, I see. So teleportation is to laziness, the way time travel is to procrastination, right, yeah, Like, oh I wish I could go back in time and do this sooner or something. Yeah. Yeah, So I think it's very natural, right to imagine yourself just being there without having to expand effort to get there. It's totally unnatural. It doesn't exist in nature at all. There's no natural example. I mean, maybe it's understandable, but it's like them some weird extreme version of flying or something. Anyway, I think that's fascinating. Actually did a bit of reading to figure out, like, when did teleportation first appear in science fiction or in literature kind of stuff? What did you find? Oh, it's ancient, you know, it's um I don't know if it goes all the way back to Caveman, but it appears, you know, in Greek mythology and all sorts of stuff, people appearing here and disappearing there. And so it's an old, old, old idea. It's basically magic, right, it's basically magic. He snaps her finger and they're gone. That's right. So science has had five thousand years to work on this idea. Where have we gotta We've got We've got handheld, little powerful computers. We have flying cars. You have a flying carrotation, Daniel K and I come over? Where is this flying car? I want to hear about. Yea, So is teleprotation actually possible? It depends a little bit on what you mean by teleprotation, right, So let's get a little bit technical, Like, if by teleportation you mean take me my physical body and all the atoms that make me up, have we disappear and reappear somewhere else that we can pretty clearly rule out that breaks a bunch of laws of physics. Like, what do you mean, Well, if I'm gonna disappear from here, then where am I atoms going? Right? Like, the energy from those atoms can't just disappear. There's no physical process that makes somebody disappear, capture their their energy and move it somewhere else. But is it impossible or is it just very unlikely? It's impossible. You can't move energy or mass from one place to another instantaneously, not even at the speed of light. But maybe you know, thinking like if you're just one single particle, and there's a certain uncertainty about you, isn't there Like you can be here one instant and you can be somewhere else in another instant, Right, So why couldn't that apply to a whole bunch of particles all at the same time. One minute they're here and then the next moment there's somewhere else. That's true, and that can happen, But that's not really teleportation, right. Teleprotition says you're here and that's very definitive, and then you're there, and that's very definitive. What you're talking about is I don't really know where you are now, and then I don't really know where you are later. That's not exactly telepartition. That's like, if you wanted to, you know, say, oh, I want to go across town, and you wanted to use Heisenberg's certainty principle, you'd be like, well, we're not really sure where we're going to get you. You're gonna be somewhere near the four h five, but we can't really tell you. And then you end up in traffic and you're dead, and the lawsuits and it doesn't end. Well, Okay, I have another idea. Okay, what if because quantum particles can just appear out of nothing, right, not just out of nothing, they can energy from the vacuum can get turned into particles mass. Yeah, and the converse is through like particles can just disappear. That's right. Yeah. So isn't there in the infinity of probability the chance that all of my molecules could suddenly disappear, and all of them could suddenly appear somewhere else in the same exact order. Would they be the same molecules? We're talking about the same physical particles that make you up disappearing and appearing somewhere else, right, those same molecules actual telebrotation of the stuff that makes up jorhe. Yeah, that I think is impossible. But you raise an interesting question, which is, like, what is teleprotation. What if we could disassemble you and they rebuild you somewhere else out of other particles that were in that other location you want to go to Alpha centauri. There are electrons over there, There protons over there, there neutrons over there. We can make you out of that stuff over there if we just know what the recipe is for Jorge, Right, Like, if my molecules are here now and they're in powers the next moment, how do we know they're the same molecule? Yeah, exactly, Like molecules don't have little ideas on them, right, They certainly don't write. All electrons are identical. You can't tell one from another. And as you say, particles are disappearing and appearing all the time. So it's not even really well defined question to say, like, what is the stuff that makes up me? These particles are me. So in that sense, teleportation is really just the transformation of the arrangement of the particles. You know, you can think about the thing that you about you is the arrangement of the particles. I mean, I was thinking about this the other day, Like, you know, if you are out there, you're the listener you weigh. I don't know. Seventy kilos, right, I don't know. I don't know what that means. I can't I can't do the matter. It's a flattering number for us. Yeah, right, our listeners are really good looking. Um, anyways, say this is the seventy kilos of you? Okay, Now, what is the recipe for making you? Well, it's protons, neutrons, and electrons, and the recipe is actually pretty simple. It's one to one to one, the same number of protons and neutrons and electrons to make up joorhe. Now what's the recipe for making up sevent ice cream? Well, it's still one to one to one protons, neutrons and electrons, is just differently arranged. Let's it's radioactive ice cream. That's right. Let's it's really far off the isotopic heavy ice cream, but heavy ice cream. But basically the difference between joge and a big pile of ice cream is just the arrangement of those particles. Right, So what you're saying is like, what makes me me is my arrangement of molecules, not the actual molecules. It's sort of philosophically bold thing to say, but yeah, basically that's the only difference between you and ice cream is a bit of tweaking. So when we're talking about totleprotation, you're really people are really wondering if it's possible to send my current arrangement, have that arrangement appear somewhere else sort of. I mean it would be a bit of a heart cell. I mean, what if I told you, hey, or hey, I'm gonna chop you up in the little rip bits and remake you somewhere else, all right? You'd wonder is that are you killing me and then creating me? And is that really the same as teleporting me? Is that really what you want? What you want to say, smooth continuous experience. You want the experience of traveling somewhere with minus the traveling, right, you mean, like my current arrangement in my brain of all my neurons and all the thoughts process. You want the frozen and then you wanted to appear somewhere else so that your thoughts are sort of continuous. That's right. I think you want a continuous conscious experience, Right, you want to get into teleportation box, press the button, and then get out of the teleprotation box on Alpha Centauri or in the valley, or in St. Louis or whatever, and be there. I don't think you want to get in the teleprotation box, press the button and die and then be born somewhere else. Right. I think you're giving my current arrangement of neurons a bit of a headache here thinking about these things. But what's the difference? Right? Is there friends to being disassembled and reassembled somewhere else with the same memories. I have so many questions for you, but before we dive in, let's take a short break. So if we were to define teleprotation just which is what I think you're trying to do, is it's the wish that you could have a continuous experience of being one place and then being another place in this next moment. That's right. And I don't think we know enough about consciousness to know whether what I just described would accomplish that. Take the particles and make a joorge, tear them apart to learn where they are, reassemble them somewhere else in exactly the same configuration. Would that new reassembled Joge version two think it's the same Joge? Would it know there's been reassembled that. I don't think we know enough about consciousness to know, but boy, that would that be a fascinating experiment. Right, So you're saying that physical toleprotation is impossible, like me, myself, the exact molecules that make up me right now, making them up here somewhere else is impossible. But you're saying, maybe we can recreate the arrangement somewhere else, and then you get into all these philosophical questions about whether that's really near or my consciousness is continuous. But that's that's one way you see teleportation being possible, is if you recreate my arrangement somewhere else. That's the only way I see it being possible, because the physical teleportation of objects, as far as I understand, it's totally impossible. Even the person we interviewed on the street who believes that somewhere there's a scientists who's figured it out and is looking to make money off of it, I'm sorry, I think that part is actually impossible. But but you know, the second bit is pretty good, right, Beaming the information and recreating you. That could work, That could really accomplish what we want. Well, let's think about that. So, like if you were to tell me, hey, horr, I'm gonna deconstruct you, save you to a hard drive or a flash drive drive that using an ups trug to the other side of town, you know, and start the USB thing. Hold hold on a second, if we're gonna put you in traffic anyway, what was the point just climbing the ups track corp He seriously, Now, the idea is decode you in the information beam you across a laser beam or the internet at least, right, so it's really fast, and then rebuild you somewhere else. Okay, so that's that's one way till reportation would be possible. But then that's the crazy thing. To reconstruct the exact state of all of my atoms and molecules and neurons. What sort of technology would you need? You need like a crazy three D printer. Yeah, you certainly would. But let's um, let's do the particle physics approach to this. Let's say, let's figure out how to do it first for one particle and then for two particles, and then try to generalize to however many particles make up a person or a hamster, because if it's not possible for a single particle, then it definitely won't be possible for a whole person. But if it is possible for a single particle, then it's just sort of an engineering question for how to do it for lots of particles. Okay, so um, and you're talking about beaming the information down to the quantum state, right, that's important. It's not just like I have an atom of carbon here in my hand. Let's just make a carbon atom over there. You're talking about the actual exact quantum state of that carbon atom. That's right. We're talking about copying a person or a cat or a hamster or whatever. We want to capture everything about it. We want to get every atom, every molecule exactly correct because we don't know which bits are important. Right, Maybe the thing that makes you you is in some particular arrangement of sodium atoms in your brain. And if we say whatever, we'll just put some sodium in there in the right mixture. We don't really care where it is or what the quantum state is, then we might get a different horry. Right, one is funnier or grumpier saltire exact spicierum exactly, and so we want to get it exact right. We wanted perfect copies. Okay, is it possible to take the quantum the one particle with all its quantum state copy that somewhere else. So that is possible, and that has actually been done right. People have teleported information about particles across more than a thousand kilometers. They've teleported it up into a satellite in space and back. I'm gonna say something which sounds incorrect, but and then I'm gonna tell you what it means. We can teleport single particles. We can tuport the information about it exactly. We can say I have an electron over here. Um, let me capture all the information about that electron that I need to get another electron over there to be an exactly the same quantum state as you say, which means it's a perfect copy, right, because electrons are all the same. There's no difference between electron number one electron number two, there's no difference between electrons. If I get an electron over there to be an exactly the same quantum state as it was over here, that I can say I've teleported that electron, you copied it, you created an identical copy somewhere else. It's not a copy. Um I've teleported, And the reason it's not a copy is that you can't copy a quantum state. In capturing the information you need to recreate it, you destroy that state, so you can't copy. You can only transfer. Oh what Yeah, so if you want to teleport and electron from here across your living room, you have to give up that first electron. There's no backup copies. And so if you're thinking, hey, teleportation is a great way to make multiple copies of myself, you know I can get all so much work done because I can make ten versions of me, and I can do ten comic strips at a time. It doesn't work because copying the information also destroys the original. But it destroys it not and like it disappears, it's just it collapses the quantum information. It changes it. And exactly if the definition of being you is this arrangement of quantum states of all the particles in your body, then it changes those states in a way that's no longer you write, oh, I see, so when you hear the words quantum teleportation, It actually doesn't mean that you teleport something using quantum technology. It means that you teleported the quantum information exactly. Information is sent using classical technology. You can get on some drive, you can use a laser, you can use a telegraph, but you're teleporting the information about a quantum particle. Because we're all made of quantum particles. So you want to teleport me, you better teleport all my quantum particles with all their quantum information. And quantum information is different than regular information like ones and zeros, because it's just quantum weird stuff, right, that's right. It follows totally different rules. Right, there's uncertainty you can know this and not that it can be yeah, and then uncertainty is maintained. I feel like physicists pulled a fast one on the public there. You know, they call it quantum teleportation. That's like, that's like that's like telling people, hey, we can do teleportation if we use quantum stuff. But it's really just teleportation of quantum stuff, right, and everything is quantum that it's really just tession. I think you're trying to pull a fast one on us again. But you know, let's make it concrete like people thinking, oh, what does this mean to be an electron? Like, instead of an electron, think of like a little black bag that has some marbles in it, and you don't know what the colors are, right, So, because there's always something hidden about a quantum particle. So you know, say that your electron is a bag of marbles and you don't know how many blues and how many reds are in there. Teleporting the electron means creating another bag in another place that has the same probabilities of red marbles and blue marbles in it inside of it. Inside, So you want to capture the uncertainty of that quantum particle and recreate that uncertainty. Somebody out there is thinking, oh, but you can't measure everything about a particle and then copy it. The quantum mechanics says you can't. You're right, quantum mechanics says you can't. You can't measure the speed and position of a particle and recreated somewhere else. That's impossible, and that's not what you want. What you want to do is copy the uncertainty of the particle and copy that uncertainty somewhere else. So, like a random electron that I have here and a random electron you have over there. Um, they have different uncertainties. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so then the goal is, like, how do I make my tron have the same uncertainty as your electron over there, because you can't just like look at uncertainty. If I look at the uncertainty, it's no longer uncertain that's right. If you open Shortinger's box, you find out if the cat is dead or alive. That's not what you want. If you have a box with the catinet that has a seventy percent chance of being alive and you want to teleport that box, what you want to do is create another box somewhere else with the same chance of being alive or dead. You don't want to open the box and say, oh, it's dead, build a dead cat over there, right, that's not what you want to do, And I transport the same unopened box with the same uncertainties. Yeah, it's like, we're all sure than in your box. But what makes me unique is the probability that the cat is going to be alive or than inside of my box. And to copy myself over there, it means I have to create a box over there with the exact same probability is my box. The Daniel box is different than the whore hip box. That's right, different dead cats inside Daniel's sum up, which you just think. And so that's what quantum teleportation of a single particle means, right, And and how you do it is pretty tricky, encounterintuitive. You can't use um classical ideas to do it because it's not a classical thing, right, And I want to talk about that some more, but first let's take a quick break. Okay, So how would describe the experiment with the one you said they beamed the space and back. Yeah. So the way you do it is you use something called quantum entanglement, right, And as we said before, particles can have uncertainty, right, say, you know, electron is a seventy chance of being this and a thirty percent chance of being that, right, And so what you want to do is transfer that for information, not uncertainty, somewhere else. And the way you do it is by entangling two particles. Entangling means that the particles are related, right, like that the probabilities for them to be one thing or the other are connected to each other. Say, for example, you only have one red marble and one blue marble, and you don't look at them, but you put them in different bags. Now, if you look in one bag and you see it's red, you know instantaneously the other one has to be blue. Right, Or if you looked into one bag and it was blue, the other one has to be red. So these two bags are entangled because you know there's only one red and one blue, because there you created a process that ties them together, Like you created a rule that says, if this one's red, then deal one has to be blue. That's what you mean by entanglement exactly. That's right. So now say you have one red marble one blue marble. You don't look at them, but you put them in different bags. You take one to China, right, and one you live here in the US. Then you know instantaneously something about the one in China, even if it's really really far away. So like you know, you know before I know what's in my bag, that's right, yeah, And it doesn't matter how far away I am. Right, instantly, I know you're thinking, all right, but it was either red or blue the whole time, right, it's just about what you know. That's true. For the marbles, but in the case of quantum particles, they exist in these superposition estates, which means that they are either red or blue or their red and blue. Whether they're actually red or blue is not determined until you open the bags shrouding yours cat, right, it's both alive and dead with some probability. And so in the quantum version of this, when you open your bag and you see the quantum blue ball, it was either red or blue until the moment you opened the bag, and then it became blue. The other bag, which is now in China really really far away, was also either red or blue. But then when you opened the bag in the US and found that it had a blue ball, the one in China had to be red, and so it went from being maybe both to only being read. And so that's quantum entanglement, right. You have this probability of these things, and then they collapse when you look at one of them, which also collapses the other one, which is really really far away. Essentially the way it works without getting too technical, Matthei, now that one thing you should know have a quantum mechanics is it's always mad because it doesn't make any sense Okay, it just doesn't make sense. Like you can't use logic, you can't use your intuition, you can't use common sense to think about quantum mechanics because it doesn't follow a common sense. It only follows the map. You want to teleport the Jorgete cat box to China, you would take two cat boxes, entangled them, ship one of them to China, and then and then do something to them. Right, that's right. Whatever the thing is that you want to teleport, you put that in the box with a cat Okay, you have to entangle that with your set of entangled partners, okay, yeah, and that will cause some information to be transmitted to the other box. So you learn something about the local cat box, and that tells you what you have to do to the other cat box to create the state that you want. So I need like a coreer cat box that maybe talks to my cat box in a quantum way, and then you send that to China, and then you interact that one with the other cat box, and suddenly the original cat boxes are the same quantum mechanically exactly. And there's a critical step there, which is you have to send the information to China because it's not instantaneous. Right, These two objects, these quantum entangled objects are connected via entanglement, and the entanglement does collapse instantaneously when you interact with one. But in order to do the teleportation to recreate the original state that you want in another place, you have to send some information about what happened with your entanglement over there, okay, right, And so that sending of information can't happen happen instantaneously. You beat it with lasers and you send a via pony Express, you do something to get that information over there. You're still limited to the speed of light. So even though quantum teleportation is possible, I mean, you can transmit the information necessary to recreate a quantum states somewhere else, you can't do it faster than the speed of light, okay, which is which is disappointing. So we'll never have instantaneous teleprotation. It's still limited by the speed of light, still limited by the speed of light. Even if we had teleportation, it would still be as slow as the speed of light, that's right, which is, you know, lot faster than l a traffic, but it would still take a long time to get to a neighboring star system. Right, So teleportation solves your traffic problem and your laziness problem, but doesn't solve the problem of trying to get to the stars faster. And then the question is like, what is it like to be you? Why you are beamed information? Right? We talked about the experience of consciousness, right, So you get in the box, you press the button, we decompose you and tangle you, etcetera, etcetera, um and get the information needed to send you to a far away place. But that still takes millennia, right, what is that like? Are you do experience? Do you still make puns even though you're on board this ship? Maybe you make quantum puns, which are sort of funny and not at the same time. Usually kills a cat, always kills the cat. Um. And the other thing is, you know you need something over there to receive it. So you want to teleport things to Alpha Centauri, you have to build a receiving station with quantum entangled particles over there, um, and that you need the phone booth over there exactly. So somebody's got to get there the old fashioned way first and build like a telebrotation receiving station before you can go down. So we'll never have a Star Trek beam like in the movies. Yeah, they were. I was never really clear on that because in Star Trek they need to be in the transporter room to get beamed. But they can get beamed to anywhere, right or from anywhere. So why can't they beam from one place to another place without using the transporter room as an intermediate I never understood that. Well, then Scottie would be out of the job, that's right, probably because that would fix too many of the Okay, So for our listeners sitting in traffic or in the subway or board at work listening to this um, unfortunately, they may might never teleport. I don't know. I think it's I think we should summarize that it is possible. My summary of that is it's possible for non fast, the light teleportation of individual particles. That's been done. It's been done over great distances and over more and more complicated objects. The first thing they did was a photon, and then an electron. Now they've done like an entire atom. Really, so now the question is, yeah, the question is how much can you do right to do this kind of teleprotation? You need to have the quantum state of an object entangled with something else. That's possible for tiny quantum objects like particles, it's harder to imagine how it might work for you know, hamster or a person um. That doesn't mean it's impossible. It's no physical loss thing. You can't do this, but it just sounds extraordinarily complicated and would require a massive amounts of energy. Well, you know what I usually tell my son when he tells me he would love to teleport, I always tell him that teleportation is possible. It just kind of depends on your state of mind. You know, Like this morning, I just teleported from Louisville, Kentucky. You know, technically, I walked into this giant metal box, sat down, I did what I usually did, which was leap right on my emails on my computer, watch some TV. And then the next thing I knew, I was in Los Angeles. You know, like you're just gonna shift your mental state. Um, teleportation is kind of possible. You're saying, if you're not really aware of your surroundings, then it feels a lot like teleportation. Yeah, I mean just kind of reorder the re order the sequence of events in your head. That sounds like a typical dad answer. Was he satisfied with that? Nothing you say is satisfation. But you know, in a way, it's sort of it just kind of depends on your point of view. You know, like if you were sitting in traffic while you were listening to us, you know, you were engaging what we were saying, and then suddenly you were in a different place. So in a way, I feel like teleportation, at least kind of mentally as possible. That's maybe the lesson to you folks out there sitting on the four or five or you know, taking a long walk. Maybe you can use this podcast to teleport yourself from one place to the other so you don't notice the experience of your actual travel. You just get in press play, listened to too hilarious dudes talking about science, and then all of a sudden you're at your destination. Yeah, it's not wasted time if you don't waste it. That's right. Well, I'm gonna go ahead and halt my teleprotation research program now because you've solved the problem. Yeah, we saved a lot of cats absolutely. Um. And so until that day when teleprotation becomes an option for you to zip across the valley. I hope you can just enjoy listening to our podcasts. All right, well, thank you so much for listening to this. I hope you get to your destination in a timely manner. If you still have a question after listening to all these explanations, please drop us a line. We'd love to hear from you. You can find us at Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at Daniel and Jorge that's one word, or email us at Feedback at Daniel and Jorge dot com.