Commanders Logo BREAKS Physics, City Connect Jerseys & Defining Guy Moments | Ep #136

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it live. Do it live. It's our bonus Pod, Covino and Rich. Perhaps you've heard of us going in for DP this week the Dan Patrick Hatrick. Well, welcome to our show. We're on Fox Sports Radio two to four on the West Monday through Friday five to seven on the East. And over Promised is the Bonus Show, the Bonus Pod where we could fit in all the other stuff uncensored and unneash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what if you're listening that because you heard us talking about it on Dan Patrick, it works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you guys for joining us. And we hope you're enjoying your NBA playans. We hope you enjoy the weekend. Let's enjoy some over promised. We're gonna talk about defining guying moments. This a story. It involves only fans, which we keep running out of time to talk about. Who might be ass somebody straight cheeks and we're gonna let you know who. But there's some weak logo controversy. We gotta start with. You know what it is?

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Speaker 2: Every year it's leaked on purpose or not. Sometimes it's because like someone buys a new piece of merchant. It's like worry does logo looks right. I remember the Tennessee Titans got their new logo exposed because someone ordered a hat or something. The Washington Commanders have a new alternate logo, and my first though was, you know, pretty cool because they're paying tribute to the old Washington Redskins. And there's an arrow through the logo. Yes, And people are saying, I don't get it. It doesn't make sense. They're not seeing it three dimensionally, and they're like, well, how would the arrow go through the letter W like that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let me let this simmer take a look. See at it. We're talking about the top logo if you're watching. And then some people have recommended the second logo, like they should correct it to this, and I think it's wild that they break out this brand new logo and on Twitter and social media the one thing people are so confused about. It's like I can't wrap my head around it. I have two thoughts while I stare at this number One, I feel like the Commanders are doing too much, like too many changes, right, But I get it, because aren't they gonna move stadiums in a figures anyway?

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Speaker 2: Sweet New Stadium in twenty thirty and there's people that are saying, come twenty thirty, they're gonna do another even maybe even name change, right, so it's like, fuck, it's a it's Redskins, Washington Football Team commanders.

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Speaker 1: They might go to the well again. So I feel like that's too much. But I also have to keep in mind we all should keep in mind that everybody hates change. Everybody hates new logos, they hate new phone updates. Think people the full setting is to complain. No matter what, you're never gonna please everything.

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Speaker 2: But you would think with the tribute to the Redskins, because well, there's a section of fans it's like we missed the old school team.

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Speaker 1: The arrow. They're not gonna do the redskin head, they can't do that, But the arrow is a cool tribute to the legacy and the history of the team. People are just so bent on how does that arrow get through the w And I do love the colors. I think the one thing that Washington Football Team Redskins commanders, they can't ever change that maroon like burgundy and yellow. That's gotta stay. That's a cool, cool like color scheme. Can you see how the arrow goes through that? Or No? I feel like I can. So there's another thought I have when I'm looking at this. People just love to bitch. And if this is your big complaint, get over yourself. I say.

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Speaker 2: People have actually done this with like origami and rubber bands and stuff to show you what they mean.

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Speaker 1: Look at this one.

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Speaker 2: Someone has actually said, here's what it looks like when you actually do it, like with paper.

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Speaker 1: It's like a coffee stir through a w you see. I mean, now it makes sense to you do all sports logos have to make sense? The orioles. It's a bird with a baseball hat, Like, does that make sense to people? Burrow that hat? Yeah? I mean do birds wear hats?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the first thing that comes to mind? What comes to mind? You know? So it's like that makes sense to people have problem with this? People love to complain. I think this is such a weak controversy. But then again, if they were making changes to my team that way, I might speculate and over speculate. But this has become a big story. The thing is, I feel like I kind of see what they were shooting for originally, but I also could kind of see It's almost like an optical illusion. I can see the after where it kind of also looks right, spot, can you like break this down or have it make sense for us.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a physical it's it's a physics not a physical it's a physics improbability.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: So I want you to look at the w okay, and I want you to divide it into let's say, a slash, an A and another slash.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, slash a slash.

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Speaker 3: Slash a slash. So the line comes in over the first slash, underneath the A, then jumps to the front of the A, then goes underneath the second.

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Speaker 1: And now that spot said that, I think it's.

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Speaker 3: Right because because where the line goes through the if the if the line were lower, it would be a possibility like when you see that other logo, the the Origami one that makes sense. This is a physical impossibility.

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Speaker 1: Okay. One's also three. One's also just a flat piece of art. So show me the after again and show me how that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: So the after hold on.

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Speaker 1: Because the fans are saying this is what it should look like, and maybe like we've seen changes before, like remember when the fans complained about Sonic and.

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Speaker 2: They know like we hate how Sonic looks. And they actually made the change and it worked. It's not that the Hedgehog went on to become a billion dollar movie Indus franchise and.

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Speaker 1: Those changes were right and correct and it worked out to the benefit. Maybe if they make this change, let's see it. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: To explain this one, I want you to divide the W now into two v's.

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Speaker 1: This works now, so you.

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Speaker 3: Have one V. It goes over the first V under the second under the second.

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Speaker 1: But the first one looks cooler though, even though it's not possible. Yeah, but it looks like it's not piercing through the second V. I think there's I think there's a little line that is missing to be kind of pear that it should like it's piercing through the V.

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Speaker 3: See this because of where the line goes, it makes it completely an optical illusion. It makes it that like like the staircase or like the.

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Speaker 2: Funny This is the funniest yet dumbest thing anyone's ever thought about.

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Speaker 1: But it is interesting though that the minute the Washington.

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Speaker 2: Commanders come out with this social media it was trending this morning that I'm like, why the Commander's trending because.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, then locals impossible. If this is keeping you up at night, You're like, you gotta get prograstic, aren't you? Abars to be worried about that? But you know, it's also funny about this. I'm sure AI could fart out a way cooler logo in three and a half seconds. Possible, you know what I mean? Don't replace humans, right, but this is what we got, so the weak logo controversy. But then again, everybody hates change, and everybody's de fault is to hate things first before you you're okay with that?

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Speaker 2: You know where it's not considered change, it's just considered Oh look a cool alternate, right. Baseball City connect jerseys. The weakest part about the Yankees is that they're so traditional that are they the only team that he hasn't even had one yet?

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Speaker 1: I actually agree with that, and I think we're getting to a phase or a place where they should have Like here's what I'm agreeing on away jerseys, Like the blue versions of the away jersey blue with gray like something. How about this? How about the logo you hardly see anymore? You know that? Like Yankee top hat? Yeah? I love that. If they did that on like some type of like blue jersey or something like or like something with the Bronx. Maybe you're graffiti or I don't know, like give the Yankee fans and the players and options twenty twenty six if you want to keep their tradition, keep the pinstripes at home, and give the alternate jerseys away games or Friday night boring gray and blue jerseys.

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Speaker 2: Or where it's at Friday night at the stadium. Maybe something new, But anyway.

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Speaker 1: I'm open to it. I think there's a lot of Yankee fans that are open to it, even though we want to keep tradition.

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Speaker 2: I think he's haven't had one. Every other team has already had one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now we are onto round two. Eight teams revealed City connect two. Yeah, take a look at some of these. Some of them are getting ship on social media, of course. I mean because people but you would say they hate change.

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Speaker 1: This isn't changed. This is just yo, they're wearing them on Friday night road games or you know, change more the same.

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Speaker 2: So take a look the Atlanta Braves. I like the powder blue. I think it looks cool attribute to like the Dale Murphy days. Right, Yeah, yeah, I think that shit looks hot and I hate him Baltimore. That's not Peter Alonso, but I'm thinking with Pete Alonzo a cool look.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the sleeveless look be more bro Yeah, I like it be more. I know again, it's just a alternate Jersey.

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Speaker 2: The city connection, the one that gets the most shit spot if you want to keep scrolling down there. I'm not from the area that the reds one looks cool, but there's one the Royals that got shit. I like the little piping of the Royals. It's a little soccery looking. There's fun, there's a there. It is the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: I I'm not from that area.

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Speaker 2: But do they say Wisco like Wisconsin like people are saying Whisco.

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Speaker 1: That's the new Brewers. I think that nobody says Whisko. I think people like Whisco Wame, Yeah, but maybe they say Whisco. We know I've never said Wisco, but maybe that's what they say. We enjoy, enjoy your new city connects. People are gonna bitch, like you said, regardless Risco we go and uh you know what, man, people just love bitching about stuff, no doubt. Why don't you write write a yelp review. I don't know, man. I think they're fine. I think they look cool. And as a Yankees fan who wish they had another option, at least for an away game or an away option, I think it's cool. Man.

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Speaker 2: I think you should embrace question for you On this day, yeah, April sixteenth. Huh, Your Yankees are a part of baseball uniform history.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that? Tell me about it? Stud dropping fun facts. I got a fun fact for you guys. It was on this day in nineteen twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Which is almost one hundred years ago, which is wild. In nineteen twenty nine, the Cleveland then Indians and the Yankees were the first two teams to officially and permanently have numbers on the back.

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Speaker 1: Of their jersey. No name, of course. No name of course, No name of course, because the only name that matters is the one on the front. It's about teams. State teams would add names and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if people realize that the original numbers were based on something.

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Speaker 1: If you really think about it, positions.

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Speaker 2: No, it was where you batted in the mind like, if you think about it, Babe Ruth batted third, So what number was Babe?

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Speaker 1: Bad Air? Yeah, I thought it was frid I had three hot dogs before I reanning. That'sh right, yeah, and lou Geig was a cleanup hitter. So what number did lou Gereg wear before? So originally the Yankees, it wasn't like yo he lou what number do you want see? It was the manager made the lineup, and that was one through nine in the lineup. And then you start retiring numbers and then no longer vail And speaking of logo is rich before we move on and talk about only fans. It's a little older now, but you know what a weak logo is the new Kia logo? Am I the only person that sees nine inch nails every time I see a Kiya?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Seriously, like I know, I feel like I'm the only guy that notices like that? Is that a nine? It does Trent Reznor have a new vehicle line as weak as hell? That doesn't look like nine inch nails to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that Kia stepped up a little bit, But can I tell you the one that bothers me? I'm my wife has a Honda and luckily our car has the old one. But you see how Honda went with some weird lowercase vibe.

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Speaker 1: Now like the n in seven eleven and.

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Speaker 2: Seven eleven Honda's new logo. Yeah, you'll notice it now that I said, all right, well this might be awesome depending on how you look at it. Shannon Elizabeth, American Pie Nadia, nineteen ninety nine. Everybody remembers the movie, and everybody remembers the controversy, like ooh yeah, because it was like a teen comedy with nudity, and of.

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Speaker 1: Course and looking back, looking back, it was like terribly awful that they unwillingly recorded this girl stripping, Like like back then it was all funny. Now it's like, yeah, that's like, yeah, it's not good. Well is it ship break or ship break? I think a shipbreak because he went home for his shipbreak.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: God bless the internet because the internet was the wild West back then, right, Like what were the rules? Yeah, now you're crucified for that maneuver. But they had the webcam set up and we saw her strip online. It was a big story in American Pie. And she was a smoke show, total smoke show back then. She was like the hottest in the movie. And you and I the privilege of interviewing her. You know, in those days when she was in Maxim magazine and she was doing her thing, Shannon Elizabeth was the bee's knees. Look at it. Look how I'm angry at you because she's staring at you, because I want her to be staring at me. I'm ready to tackle you just to get you out of the picture. She's just staring me in the eyes, and you're just you look like you look like angry. I'm great, I'm ready. I'm like, why don't you shut up and let me ask a question? Because she's hot as hell. So everybody loves Shannon Elizabeth at least for a minute in the late nineties, early two thousands. Fast forward twenty seven years later. Yeah, twenty twenty six. She's fifty two now, and as they said in American Pie, God bless the Internet, or you know, maybe you look at this differently. That's fine because she is not only fans and she's saying because she just wants to take control of her life and her sexuality, her sexuality, Shannon Elizabeth is gonna be an OnlyFans girl like some any other young women. But he said, she's fifty two, and it really gets you thinking, like celebrities can make a quick buck. I know that it's been done before.

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Speaker 2: It did Andrea Da Matteo pop on OnlyFans and uh, it's about I keep forgetting.

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Speaker 1: What's what's the name of the girl from Blended? From Blended, Bella Thorn Ella Thorne went on and she made like a million dollars in one day, So maybe maybe Sheannon Elizabeth makes some money here.

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Speaker 2: But this new chapter is about taking control of her own sexuality.

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Speaker 1: Showing her sexy sign that no one is seen, and being closer to my fans, is what she said. She spent her entire career working in Hollywood, where other people controlled the narrative and the outcome of her career, and this is why she's doing it. And it's got people buzzing, people talking, and it got us thinking, I'm thinking for a younger guy, like, you know, I'm a kid of the eighties and nineties, But if you're maybe like thirty something now, when you are like a little kid, that might have been the scene that made you a man. Oh absolutely was. Depending on how old you are, that was your Like, yeah, you might.

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Speaker 2: Have been you might have been in high school or college ready in ninety nine but if you were like a preteen teenage.

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Speaker 1: Boy in nineteen ninety nine, you're defining guy. Nadia might have been your moment. Because I know we have our moments. So some people call it like your first boner moment, like you know, like that kind of moment you can you could call that, you could say a coming of age moment, whatever. But she was that person for a generation after us, for sure. For sure, it's what's your first boner moment? So I'll give you a classic. I was a middle kid, but this is a classic answer. And I definitely felt a little a little rumble in my sweatpants. I think when I when I rumble, might imply something different. I think, maybe that's stakems, we're getting to my belly. I felt a little something going on, and it was couldn't stand up in class fast times at Richmont High. That's like the classic answer, Phoebe case the pool scene. Everybody brings that up as one of those defining guy moments.

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Speaker 2: Well, can I hit you with an old school from my childhood. I remember watching Wally World Dad, my dad and I would watch The National Lampoon's Vacation and every time Christy Brinkley was in that pool scene and Clark's doing the this is crazy, this is crazy, this is crazy, and she strips down to her little bronz panties. I was like, pretty sure I liked the women.

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Speaker 1: That that was the moment. I was like, yeah, I like girls. I remember because I kept watching it. Know what, I kept thinking, Rusty Griswold doesn't make me feel this way. Nothing.

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Speaker 2: I was a little kid, and what I would do it. I would say, maybe there's a version where she gets naked. I'm like, maybe I just keep watching the like censored version for my whole life. I'm like, you kept watching just to see something else happening, a version that they show stuff. Oh, Christy Brinkley was my first. Uh, here's another one. And I think this isn't a moment where it also like revitalized older dad's older guys like my dad because he still talks about And I remember when Selma Hyak from Dusk Till Dawn when she started doing her seductive dance and you're like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, Selma, Selma, yeah that's I mean, you can't argue that scene. And from Dusk Still Dawn that the creepy voice I would like you to stop that. No, no, no, it was me doing that. Oh yeah, that's right, Navis.

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Speaker 3: Why is this gift four hours long?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, but yeah, that scene was definitely. Can I give an honorable mention?

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Speaker 2: I was a little older, but I think if you want to speak to some of the younger, younger dudes listening to our show, yeah, because I remember thinking like.

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Speaker 1: Holy the answers are generation.

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Speaker 2: I just remember, even as a guy had probably a twentish or so at the time, I remember being like, holy shit, Megan Fox and Transformers. Yeah, when she's on the but the hood of the car the hottest moments for sure. I remember being like all little boys.

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Speaker 1: Were like whoa. I was like, I'm in love. It's a coming of age moment, a defining guy moment, boner moment, whatever, and Shannon Elizabeth was definitely that girl and that moment for so many dudes a little younger than us. But of course we acknowledge like that was a pretty hot moment and now she's on OnlyFans all these years later. Let us know, uh, let us know your moment where you were like, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Pretty sure, I'm it's chicks. What you know, because it might be uh, Daisy Dukes in the eighties or something. It might be it might be Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For me, when I was a little kid, it was the end of the Benny Hill Show and all the ladies would be running around and they're lingerie like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking of so many I remember thinking when that girl popped out of the cake in Under Siege, oh yeah, reb being like, man, I really like Sigall movies, I think, yeah.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there was a ton of them. And again at COVID on Wretch, give us your moment where you're like, yep, by the way, no creeper, Yeah, no creep. If you say no creepo, it's fine, that's good.

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Speaker 2: And now we do a segment on over Promised, and I'm reluctantly doing it because I know where we're going with this. But it's nothing we like to call they might be ass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a list you don't want to be on by it doesn't mean your ass. Mean you might be ass. Right now, you're like kind of cheeks and we're trying to figure it out. But dude, you and I have a bet, a thousand dollars bet. We did it last year and I won we have another thousand dollars bet who has the best record at the end of the baseball season. The better record the Yankees are the Mets. If the Yankees have a better record, I get one thousand dollars riches Yankees. When I thought my Yankees, my Yankees were stinking like Ay Blincoln riches. Mets are stinking even worse. Hey, we're out the great stink of eighteen whatever, what was eighteen fifty eight? Yeah, great stink Because if they lose when they play next tomorrow, they play tomorrow, it's nine in a row. They play tomorrow at Wrigley Field against the Cubbies, and if the Mets lose tomorrow, that will be nine in a row that the Mets lost.

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Speaker 2: The Mets were seven and four. The Mets are now seven and twelve, five games under five hundred, and they haven't lost nine games since two thousand and four. It's been twenty two seasons since the Mets lost nine in a row. So the streets on the line for them tomorrow. Hold on, hold on, and he makes it even worse. When you think of the star players and the payroll that you guys have, there's no reason that the Mets. Is it lindor is it Lindor might be asked, or the Mets might be asked. And if they lose nine in a row, what happens with Mendoza? Is Mendoza asked? Or could we just say yeah, it's the Mets, or just that You can't have you can't have the worst what is his You can't have the worst record in baseball with the second highest payroll. I know Wan Soto's coming back from the Ile this week, but you can't. You can't have the worst or second worst record in baseball when your team is predicted to.

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Speaker 1: Win ninety to one hundred games. I know it's early.

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Speaker 2: Our buddy, Steve Gelips from SNY pointed out, please pointed out that the year the Mets went to the World Series in twenty fifteen, they were ten over ten games under five hundred at some point in that season. They came back when they went to the playoffs a couple years ago, right, a couple of years ago in twenty twenty four, That's what I was saying. When they went to the playoffs and lost of the Dodgers with Grimace and all that. Remember that team was awful. I do turns around and then there's other examples where but.

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Speaker 1: It's the chemistry gonna kick in door and Sodo gonna get on the same page.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember last year the Mets had the best record in baseball until June and then didn't even make the playoffs. And then there was a year do you remember the Mets manager Mickey Callaway got in trouble for some like accusations they thought he was the next best thing. He started one year I believe it was twenty eighteen eleven and one, and everyone's like, man, this guy is the next coming of David Johnson or something. And the Mets like, we're on the five hundred that year. So you never know, but right now, the Mets might be asked. And you know, you would think, if the Mets lose every game of this road trip, let's say they lose three in a row to the Cubbies, do.

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Speaker 1: You have to get rid of Mendoza? You have to do something. Are you getting rid of Lindoor because he seems to be the problem and you know what he epitomizes year What makes me think that the Mets might be asked? And again, it all starts with leadership from Lindor and the way he's been playing. He got his first home running first RBI just a few days ago, like one RBI. Are you kidding me? That doesn't make sense. Starting the week, Rich had just as many RBI's as Lindoran. It's the sense of urgency that they're playing with. It's like, you realize you're playing like as well, how are you not showing a little more urgency in the batter's box on the field.

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Speaker 2: The way they're playing, it's also mental. It's really bad. Steve Cohen's a billionaire, right, yeah, And there's a sentiment that when you're a billionaire, you're if you're a man or a woman that's a billionaire, you demonstrate great patience because you have to let business deals unfold, stocks and bonds.

00:22:43
Speaker 1: And you don't want a panic. You're not a panicky guy. That's true.

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Speaker 2: Steve Cohen put out on social media as a thousand there. I agree, Yes, Steve Cohen said, nobody likes to lose. But I saw some quote Green Shoots tonight talking about the other night. He goes Lindor finally hit a home run, Bashett got a nice double. He goes Soto is starting to run in his you know comeback. He's trying to look at the positive like fans. Oh, he's right about that. It's it's it's developing, it's happening. Plus the process is what he's saying, so we'll say good for him. So look, if they lose this weekend though, or god forbid, gets swept by.

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Speaker 1: The cups, ass as suits. All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, with that said again, leave us your favorite moments over the years, your boner moments, as you said.

00:23:26
Speaker 1: I said, defining guy moments.

00:23:28
Speaker 2: Hopefully the Mets could win this weekend, have a great one, enjoy your NBA playing games tomorrow.

00:23:32
Speaker 1: Until then, are we there? At you baby? See you any over? Promised? Last you guys came up by ten. I'm like at ass