The Mail Is Here! #07 - Simpsons predict Trump's death, most overrated episode, real-life Simpsons characters and more!

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<v Speaker 2>of breaking the Internet at the moment, so we.
<v Speaker 1>All know the internets are broken again.
<v Speaker 2>It's always breaking, isn't it.
<v Speaker 1>It seems very flimsy.
<v Speaker 2>So the thing is, we always talk about how the
<v Speaker 2>Simpsons predict everything, right, I think as a collective we
<v Speaker 2>can sort of just put that to bed, please. It
<v Speaker 2>feels like the only websites that do it now are
<v Speaker 2>like you know your nine mbercn's that kind of thing,
<v Speaker 2>just trying to get a bit of clickbait. People are
<v Speaker 2>still clicking it, so, you know what, more power to them.
<v Speaker 1>There are two there are two types of outlets and
<v Speaker 1>two types of people that will do this. One is
<v Speaker 1>Normi's news sites just mentions like these people were not
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the Simpsons twenty four to seven. But every
<v Speaker 1>once in a while something will come was like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>you know that event that happened in the world, Well,
<v Speaker 1>there's cartoons show that your kids really love as predicted that.
<v Speaker 1>Now back to you, Tom. And the other one is grifters.
<v Speaker 1>Now this one here is what we call a grifter.
<v Speaker 2>So what annoys me is that, now I say news websites,
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't really call them incredible news. I'm looking at
<v Speaker 2>you Uni Lad whatever they called right and Lad Bible
<v Speaker 2>and those kinds of things. But basically they're sharing this
<v Speaker 2>talking about at the moment, this Trump video that's going
<v Speaker 2>around on TikTok right about the Simpsons predicting Donald Trump's death. Now,
<v Speaker 2>this one comes from unilaed Tech and the headline says
<v Speaker 2>truth behind viral claim that Trump could die on March fourteenth,
<v Speaker 2>following Simpson's prediction.
<v Speaker 1>Now, you sent this to me first morning as we
<v Speaker 1>were before we recorded. There's like wow, I check this
<v Speaker 1>out as a wow chick this No, you were not
<v Speaker 1>doing as you were, Wow, check this out? Dar. No,
<v Speaker 1>you know, mate, I'm kind of a dumbass. You know,
<v Speaker 1>there are sing there are things that will escape my views.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not especially gullible, but there are some
<v Speaker 1>things of like oh wow, interesting hmm. I'm trying to
<v Speaker 1>see both sides of that. This is blatantly fake? Is
<v Speaker 1>it not even blatantly fake? This is just what is this?
<v Speaker 2>So it's a Simpsons Predict Simpsons to predict on TikTok
<v Speaker 2>Simptons Predict Future.
<v Speaker 1>Is the is the user Simpson's Predict Future one, which
<v Speaker 1>means it's got multiple account? Yes, yes, probably Simpsons Predict
<v Speaker 1>Simpson's Predict Future eight out there. This person is churning
<v Speaker 1>out this dreadful, dreadful nonsense.
<v Speaker 2>As the thing is, we're laughing at him, we're mocking him.
<v Speaker 2>This guy has one hundred This account has one hundred
<v Speaker 2>and forty thousand followers. This video has seven million views.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that made me want to break shit. Oh it
<v Speaker 1>makes me so sad. So what's happening?
<v Speaker 2>Is this person male fair, not sure who it is,
<v Speaker 2>is going into AI.
<v Speaker 1>I think we can call it an it.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's not really Yeah, it's if you've got
<v Speaker 2>the AI Donald Trump predicted, it's got the AI voice, right.
<v Speaker 2>So basically all they're doing is they're entering stuff into
<v Speaker 2>a prompt and it's letting AI do the work. Hey,
<v Speaker 2>it's working for them. Fucking news websites are going crazy
<v Speaker 2>with it. But the video is has a predicted. Have
<v Speaker 2>they predicted a Trump's death. The AI footage that you're
<v Speaker 2>seeing in this, they're saying that, they're claiming it's an
<v Speaker 2>unaired Simpsons episode, right, that predicted Donald Trump's death, and
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to out right.
<v Speaker 1>It looks nothing like a Simpsons episode.
<v Speaker 2>This one scene has like twelve different homers, one with
<v Speaker 2>a missing I and missing hands.
<v Speaker 1>It's clearly all AI. How is anyone resharing this claiming
<v Speaker 1>even given this the time of day, Even Unilad or
<v Speaker 1>lad Bible or whatever. I mean, sometimes they have some
<v Speaker 1>halfway decent stuff or stuff that's semi amusing. This is
<v Speaker 1>all empty calorie slop nonsense. Folks, Uh do yourselves the
<v Speaker 1>perpetual favor and just avoid it.
<v Speaker 2>The thing is, though, I feel like right now I'm
<v Speaker 2>Grandpa Simpson with the I used to be with it,
<v Speaker 2>but they've changed what it was. This is now it
<v Speaker 2>it's now weird and scary to me.
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's the thing. It's not just weird and scary
<v Speaker 1>to you, it's weird and scary to just about everybody.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, anybody with a functioning brainstemer is looking at this, going, eh,
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Yeah? That doesn't even look real.
<v Speaker 2>The thing is though, right, the latest one says could
<v Speaker 2>die on fourteenth of March. Right, but if he go back,
<v Speaker 2>he did one last week, there's the twenty eeth of February,
<v Speaker 2>two weeks ago. There's one that says the twentieth of February.
<v Speaker 2>He just posts the same fucking video every single week
<v Speaker 2>with a different date, and people are re sharing and
<v Speaker 2>buying into it and be following.
<v Speaker 1>Be alert people, Yeah, this is this is a real one.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe people like this. Maybe I'm the crazy one. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>maybe I should be. I'm the old fund daddy shaving,
<v Speaker 2>shaking my fist at the cloud. I'm sitting here, well
<v Speaker 2>in my world. You know, we're sitting here, you know,
<v Speaker 2>we reviewing the Simpsons with as much credibility as possible.
<v Speaker 2>We're talking to people that worked on the show. We're
<v Speaker 2>doing our to just keep the Simpsons torch flame, you know, alive. Right, Well,
<v Speaker 2>not just keep the Simpsons flamelight, but keep the look.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say that we're the up Rachelon
<v Speaker 2>of critical discourse here, but I mean everything that you're
<v Speaker 2>hearing from your pal's Danel and Guy is coming from
<v Speaker 2>the minds of Daniel and Guy. When we're I mean,
<v Speaker 2>we're not typing in prompt to AI, and we're not
<v Speaker 2>creating computer generated content or anything like that. All those
<v Speaker 2>clips you see on social media, I whacking those through
<v Speaker 2>an AI generator. But Open's clips share the Open's clip,
<v Speaker 2>they do good work. They people use them for their
<v Speaker 2>podcast clips. I make all the clips myself to make
<v Speaker 2>sure they look the best they can be. I might
<v Speaker 2>be crazy for doing so, but I prefer to make
<v Speaker 2>it to myself.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's always going to and there's always going to
<v Speaker 1>be a market. Look look at that. Look at these pages.
<v Speaker 2>I already looked at these, Dan Could Trump die thirtieth
<v Speaker 2>of January? Could Trump die the twentieth of January?
<v Speaker 1>It does it every single week. The same photos. Stop
<v Speaker 1>showing this to me. I don't want to see it.
<v Speaker 2>Same videos every single week, just changes the date and
<v Speaker 2>people are resharing it.
<v Speaker 1>What is going on?
<v Speaker 2>No, the Simpsons did not predict Trump's eventual death on
<v Speaker 2>March fourteenth, because you know what's gonna happen next week.
<v Speaker 2>There'll be another video that says March twenty first, correct,
<v Speaker 2>Holy smokes.
<v Speaker 1>So look, we're doing a public service announcement for you today, folks.
<v Speaker 1>It's avoid accounts like this if they come up in
<v Speaker 1>your feed, just you know, there's gotta be some button
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok or insider or whatever. They just says, I
<v Speaker 1>don't want to see anything more like this that hit
<v Speaker 1>that button.
<v Speaker 2>The people who watch this and re share this stuff, though,
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're Simpsons fans. I just think they're just
<v Speaker 2>people that just like ai slop. It's just it's just
<v Speaker 2>people who are just.
<v Speaker 1>Who likes a slop. People do, clearly, it's one hundred
<v Speaker 1>and forty thousand of them right now. Igue the feeling
<v Speaker 1>that's spots, spots you reckon I to get to add credibility, Yes, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>potentially that's a good I think they have purchase bots
<v Speaker 1>from Russia or Pakisa rush where yeah, okay, to rush
<v Speaker 1>up the credibility from RUSSI up, But to rush up yes, yes, yes,
<v Speaker 1>but yes no, yes no.
<v Speaker 2>The Simpsons did not will not predict the death of
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.
<v Speaker 1>They we don't do that. Yeah, and predict future one
<v Speaker 1>is let's look up Simpsons predicted future two. Here's the thing, though,
<v Speaker 1>in some homemade recording studio somewhere in the world, there's
<v Speaker 1>probably some like Junior Dando who is actually the person
<v Speaker 1>behind Sims's predict one going, I just want to be
<v Speaker 1>part of the conversation. I'm just like you. Why am
<v Speaker 1>I giving him that accent? Apologies to that person just
<v Speaker 1>because he's different.
<v Speaker 2>So there is no Simpson's predict future, no number There
<v Speaker 2>is no number two. For some reason, He's added one
<v Speaker 2>in there, like it just makes it seem even worse.
<v Speaker 1>No, no, oh sorry, I could, I could do something. Very
<v Speaker 1>is number one. I don't do a borrowed voice because
<v Speaker 1>that's you know, you can get away with it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it seems a brittany fulture number one.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Simpson's Predictions for twenty twenty five two point
<v Speaker 2>one million views. This guy's been doing his videos for
<v Speaker 2>a long time and it's working for him. More credit
<v Speaker 2>to him. You know people are watching this ship? Well yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people seem to be watching
<v Speaker 2>this shit out of pure curiosity.
<v Speaker 1>Though, yes, that's the thing. I mean, they're But the
<v Speaker 1>problem is if you go on watching it and resharing it.
<v Speaker 1>I know that's the terrible thing. But if you go
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, for instance, Yeah, if you go into like
<v Speaker 1>you're typing movie trailers, new movie trailers or whatever, and
<v Speaker 1>you will find a lot of yeah AI generated slop
<v Speaker 1>for like, hey, we've got the Avengers doomsday trailers like
<v Speaker 1>you No, you don't. No, you typed a few prompts
<v Speaker 1>in give me rober Danney Jr. As Doctor Doom saying
<v Speaker 1>Avengers you will die?
<v Speaker 3>Whoa what?
<v Speaker 1>And you know there were chumps out there who were like,
<v Speaker 1>holy moly, I got the first Avengers first comment. What
<v Speaker 1>ships me?
<v Speaker 2>As though, places like Unilatter right, they give this stuff
<v Speaker 2>the time of day purely because they again grifting, trying
<v Speaker 2>to get the clickbait right. But then they'll post it.
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's clearly fake. Then why why are you
<v Speaker 2>putting a big news thing about it?
<v Speaker 1>Because they all want their small slice of the attention dollar.
<v Speaker 1>We're in the attention economy and you.
<v Speaker 2>Know, and I know we're talking about it right on
<v Speaker 2>our show, right. But the thing is they end it
<v Speaker 2>by saying, you know, the Simpsons of a lies. Our
<v Speaker 2>features already written. I guess we have to wait and
<v Speaker 2>see whether.
<v Speaker 1>This comes true. Okay, well, let's establish our bona fide
<v Speaker 1>is here. Do not watch this No, do not follow
<v Speaker 1>this account if it comes up in your algorithm block,
<v Speaker 1>say I don't want this vote with your attention dollar, yes,
<v Speaker 1>and give that attention dollar to your pal. The other
<v Speaker 1>need some positive news though, positive news. Okay, hear me,
<v Speaker 1>so our.
<v Speaker 2>Pals at kid Robot, who do some awesome Simpsons figures.
<v Speaker 2>I've got my Devil Flanders up there, and a lot
<v Speaker 2>of little mini ones. I've got the mister Sparkle behind me.
<v Speaker 2>He s with the laundry box box. You know you're
<v Speaker 2>right in front.
<v Speaker 1>No, I see it, I see it, you see it.
<v Speaker 1>I've got to look past you.
<v Speaker 2>But they do great vinyl figures, that kind of thing.
<v Speaker 2>But they have released a thirty six inch high Homer
<v Speaker 2>in the Hedges figure.
<v Speaker 1>Right. Did you check this out? I did? I did,
<v Speaker 1>and then but I also did some metrics. No, no
<v Speaker 1>metric conversion like now to thirty six inches, because you know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm a man and I tend to misrepresent size. This
<v Speaker 1>is close to a meter at all, yes, very very tall,
<v Speaker 1>about ninety one centimeters. I mean, for those of us
<v Speaker 1>you know, I would have the metric system. I don't
<v Speaker 1>know what that shit is. I would love to have,
<v Speaker 1>bitch and reference folks.
<v Speaker 2>It feels completely unnecessary. I would still love to have it.
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is how much shit in this life
<v Speaker 2>is necessary?
<v Speaker 1>Nothing's necessary, you're right, well, you know, food, shelter, breathing
<v Speaker 1>in and out, can't be caring. That's an optional extra.
<v Speaker 1>But this is twenty twenty six.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone in Australia could legitimately afford this
<v Speaker 2>because it's sixteen hundred US dollars and I don't think
<v Speaker 2>anyone in twenty twenty six has that kind of money
<v Speaker 2>to drop on something when you've got Homer and Hedges,
<v Speaker 2>cheaper stuff available at your local toy stores. You got
<v Speaker 2>the Funko pop vinyls. Yes they don't look like this,
<v Speaker 2>but man, it's it feels like as cool as this is,
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I'm just not sure I can afford this.
<v Speaker 2>I would ever, just even if I had the money
<v Speaker 2>and I spend that much money on it.
<v Speaker 1>And we're in a room full of Simpsons crab Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>oh can't. So yeah, maybe not the best time to
<v Speaker 1>come out with something that costs a pretty penny, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If you're a fan of Simpson's stuff, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>and look, as you said from our powers at kid Robot,
<v Speaker 1>makers of quality merch due.
<v Speaker 2>It is his spinning around. There's just a giant Homer head,
<v Speaker 2>so thirty six inches. So that giant iron giant up there,
<v Speaker 2>that's twenty nine so it's ten inches bigger than that,
<v Speaker 2>So it's probably it's probably if it's on there, it's
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be touching the roof.
<v Speaker 1>It's massive.
<v Speaker 2>Well, don't never move your iron giant. No, no, the
<v Speaker 2>iron giant No six days. Yes, but the thing is
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know. Hopefully it works for him.
<v Speaker 2>It's a bowl st let's seve.
<v Speaker 1>It pays, but look more powered kid robot.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I think I think they may have
<v Speaker 2>missed the boat with the Homer and head stuff because
<v Speaker 2>it's just as a Simpsons fan Simpce, it's dying hard.
<v Speaker 2>Me personally, I'm over the Homer in Hedge stuff now
<v Speaker 2>because it kind of feels like everyone's talking. Everyone knows
<v Speaker 2>the Homer and Hedge has been.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you'll you'll god tier Simpsons fan, right right?
<v Speaker 2>I mean this, youre trying to tell me anyone that's
<v Speaker 2>not a but a god tears spending much money on
<v Speaker 2>a Simpons Homer and Hedge for you.
<v Speaker 1>But what I mean is like you've reached the next
<v Speaker 1>stage of enlightenment. You're despite appearance of the condury, You'll
<v Speaker 1>be on merge now where there are people who are
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I love the Simpsons and I want to,
<v Speaker 1>you know, celebrate and.
<v Speaker 2>All the people will want to have this in their
<v Speaker 2>office and sure, yeah, yeah, it's a talking point. And
<v Speaker 2>I love that it's flocked as well, So it's kind of
<v Speaker 2>nice little flocked feel. How would you describe flocked feel?
<v Speaker 2>You know, flocked pop.
<v Speaker 1>I'm aware of what it is. I'm help.
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Stucky was like fairy, isn't it. It's
<v Speaker 2>got texture texture to it. Yeah, it's not plastic.
<v Speaker 1>It's going to feel legit. But yeah, I mean looks cool.
<v Speaker 1>It looks great. Sure, everything from Kid Drover, it looks great.
<v Speaker 1>It's just come we here forward. Yeah we should say yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've been trying to push the kid Robot
<v Speaker 1>barrow here. It's like, these guys make good stuff. They do, Yes,
<v Speaker 1>these are the stuff. This is not.
<v Speaker 2>Shall we say team, here's the thirty six inch by
<v Speaker 2>Simpsons that god as well. I'm looking at him like
<v Speaker 2>twelve and fifty US dollars. I've got the Simpsons movie stand.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it's not as good as that, But it's fine.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably bigger. Yes, but that that again,
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of it's just like Bart with a skateboard.
<v Speaker 2>You mean, I mean, if you've got the money, I'm
<v Speaker 2>sure it looks awesome. This is what it looks like in
<v Speaker 2>real life. Someone took a photo of it, so it
<v Speaker 2>just looks like that.
<v Speaker 1>There's probably some tech bro of course, who was like, yeah, hey,
<v Speaker 1>you know what I love growing up The Simpsons. So
<v Speaker 1>myself is like I see myself as like the boat
<v Speaker 1>Simpson in my neighborhood. Yeah, tend to me to throw
<v Speaker 1>down twelve fifty chump change or yes, what is it,
<v Speaker 1>thirty six inch gant yard.
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like that kind of thing does have
<v Speaker 2>an audience, does have a market. I just don't think
<v Speaker 2>it's the casual Simpsons collector. Oh no, people complain, But.
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing the kid robot is probably you know, they've
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of stuff that would be it's designer toys.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, but yeah, that is the latest release from
<v Speaker 2>kid Robots.
<v Speaker 1>I hope it works out.
<v Speaker 2>From the awesome pieces, I would love to own them,
<v Speaker 2>I just don't think I could ever afford them. And
<v Speaker 2>like trying to get those things ship to Australia to
<v Speaker 2>the point where we say, hey, if you want to
<v Speaker 2>be a patron the four finger, justsca that work.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, kid Robots sent send us one and we'll talk all.
<v Speaker 1>There is that. Yeah, we talk about keeping the lights
<v Speaker 1>on here off condition. Now we're talking about give us
<v Speaker 1>more crap, give us more money to board, more grap
<v Speaker 1>so us more stuff so we can sell it. Well,
<v Speaker 1>there is that. But hey, yeah, kid robot, legitimate friend
<v Speaker 1>of the pot. I mean, I like to think we're
<v Speaker 1>doing on a solo by saying we like your stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Now let's get into a couple of questions, shall we.
<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the ones from the mail bag? All right,
<v Speaker 2>so open it up. This one here comes from Chris
<v Speaker 2>Dein Christine. What inspired Ristine or Chris Christine?
<v Speaker 1>Christine with the tea, Christine with a T, like the car,
<v Speaker 1>like the guest killer Stephen Kin Carr.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, she wants to know what do you consider to
<v Speaker 2>be the most overrated Simpsons episode of the Golden era?
<v Speaker 1>Oh, golly, Christine with a K. By the way, I
<v Speaker 1>was confused, I've gone here, So I've got a couple
<v Speaker 1>of answers right, I may get people coming at me
<v Speaker 1>with pitchforks. Right, I'm going to throw margresses the monorail
<v Speaker 1>out there. I was gonna say, now, this is honestly
<v Speaker 1>the first thing that sprang to mind.
<v Speaker 2>That's not to say that I don't think it's an
<v Speaker 2>amazing episode, right, But recently on four Finger discount on
<v Speaker 2>a Facebook page, we've run competitions like the best contest
<v Speaker 2>ever and season four was won by March resus the monorail.
<v Speaker 2>And I and a lot of people are annoyed by this,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I left it to the people. The
<v Speaker 2>people voted, so people seem to think it's the most
<v Speaker 2>you'll almost beloved episode of season four.
<v Speaker 1>You like the Donald Trump of Simpson's podcast. I led
<v Speaker 1>the people to say yes.
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, I think that March rest of
<v Speaker 2>the monorail is probably probably gets this accolade because it's
<v Speaker 2>the most memorable. I think everyone remembers, even the casual
<v Speaker 2>Simpsons viewer, even people who aren't Simpsons fans, remembers that
<v Speaker 2>time they had the monorail.
<v Speaker 1>Try to remember what else happens in the episode, or
<v Speaker 1>get specific about what happens in the episode beyond How
<v Speaker 1>does that episode. I can't know.
<v Speaker 2>I so I know, but a lot of people will go,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Hey, March's the Monoroil. Oh yeah, Monrel. That's what everyone remembers,
<v Speaker 1>the monorail songs, like oh yeah, but oh that guy's
<v Speaker 1>a con man, and then they go to these other
<v Speaker 1>towns and oh yeah, the monorail is. Yeah. It's a
<v Speaker 1>big white elephant.
<v Speaker 2>And it's got some great jokes, obviously, and it's always
<v Speaker 2>filled with great jokes, filled with weird absurd Conan O'Brien.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so here's the thing. It's got a great centerpiece,
<v Speaker 1>it's got Phil Hartman doing some of Phil Hartman's best stuff,
<v Speaker 1>and it's got the Conan O'Brien name on it. Now,
<v Speaker 1>these are all sort of big signifiers of quality. They
<v Speaker 1>are all things that we that we really really love
<v Speaker 1>and admire. So it's only natural that we're saying overrated here.
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad, No, not at all. No,
<v Speaker 1>it's not bad in any way. That's correct, But I
<v Speaker 1>think it yeah, because it's got those things attached to it,
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people can go, oh yeah, Montrel. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, as we're saying, what else happens in this episode,
<v Speaker 1>and that's not necessarily a bad thing. But ye go back,
<v Speaker 1>go back, and rewatch your boy. Go hey. That's a
<v Speaker 1>pretty good episode that it is the instant go to
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people. It's got the.
<v Speaker 2>Leonard Nimoy, you know, didn't I. It's got the I
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't stopped that haircut?
<v Speaker 1>You know.
<v Speaker 2>Batman's a scientist, that guy, right, it's got Homer. Episode
<v Speaker 2>begins with Homer singing the Simpson Simpson. These are all
<v Speaker 2>just funny bits that are sort of just thrown in
<v Speaker 2>because it's just Conan just saying this would be funny.
<v Speaker 2>Smithers and mister Burne's trying to hard nuclear waste into
<v Speaker 2>trees and you get. It's all just it's a wackiness, right,
<v Speaker 2>and it's funny. But for me personally, this isn't what
<v Speaker 2>I would call a perfect Simpsons episode. If you go
<v Speaker 2>on for best Simpsons episodes, I think ones need to
<v Speaker 2>have more of an emotional story to it. We recently
<v Speaker 2>was not release yet, but Rosebud. We discussed Rosebud with
<v Speaker 2>day Thornton. That's another episode similar to this. Lots of
<v Speaker 2>funny bits. You washing it going, oh my god, sixty
<v Speaker 2>four slices of American cheese. Oh my god, two plus
<v Speaker 2>two is four.
<v Speaker 1>That.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, all these moments the ramones, but it's got an
<v Speaker 2>emotional core behind it as well, Yes, which I don't
<v Speaker 2>think Margin Misus the Monomail has Homer wants to do good,
<v Speaker 2>he says the day, but it's not an emotional story.
<v Speaker 2>There's no emotion to that episode. And that's not saying
<v Speaker 2>that's a bad I think, but for me personally, I
<v Speaker 2>want a bit of emotion.
<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting that we both that marg Vesus the
<v Speaker 1>Monroroy was actually the first thing that came to mind
<v Speaker 1>for both of us without discussing it.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I also was surprised. I thought you would have
<v Speaker 2>said Cape Fear as well. Well, yeah, but that's kind
<v Speaker 2>of my go to these days in terms of and
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to shake things up with the people for
<v Speaker 2>the people. Then, because the argument there is that as
<v Speaker 2>funny of a parody Cape Fear is everyone remembers the
<v Speaker 2>rate gag and people some people say the rate gag
<v Speaker 2>goes too long. You're one of those people. I watch
<v Speaker 2>it and I'm like, I see what you mean. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it does go along that that that's the joy.
<v Speaker 1>Also that's the joke.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but there's there's a lot, there's a Mister Thompson
<v Speaker 2>that there's lots of great in that episode. But again,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it has I think it suffers from
<v Speaker 2>that lack of emotional core that Rosebud has.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the other thing. I think the other thing with
<v Speaker 1>Cape Fear is that, and there's purely a personal thing.
<v Speaker 1>I tend to get a little weary of sar job
<v Speaker 1>Bob's got it in for Bart again. Yeah, I mean
<v Speaker 1>that was only the second off, but yeah, they all
<v Speaker 1>tend to sort of bleed into one for me. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, I can probably live without this.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I've also got one extra one here, which
<v Speaker 2>pains me to say because it's so beloved for me.
<v Speaker 2>I have so many fond memories of it. But it's
<v Speaker 2>who shot mister Burns, Right. I think the mystery and
<v Speaker 2>the hoopla around the mystery outshines the actual quality of
<v Speaker 2>the gags. You watched the episode, and the episode itself
<v Speaker 2>obviously has funny moments, right, But as an episode, I
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're the best episodes, But the situation that
<v Speaker 2>surrounded them is what you remember, and you had this
<v Speaker 2>nostalgia connection to it. Yeah, it was so much fun.
<v Speaker 2>The whole situation was fun.
<v Speaker 1>We've been talking about this so long that you know,
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the quality of the episodes, what's actually
<v Speaker 1>inside the episodes, but I think we're also talking about
<v Speaker 1>the process of making them and the process of marketing
<v Speaker 1>them as well. And yeah, you're very correct in what
<v Speaker 1>you say. That's like, Oh this was this wasn't so
<v Speaker 1>much created as a story.
<v Speaker 2>As it was an event. That's and it was a
<v Speaker 2>fun event. Oh sure, it meant a lot to kids
<v Speaker 2>who watched it at the time.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Look, marketing and hype and hoop like can
<v Speaker 1>be just as much of an art form as the
<v Speaker 1>creation of the art itself. And there's certainly got people talking,
<v Speaker 1>and it got people watching The Simpsons and got people
<v Speaker 1>thinking and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, I mean, no,
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you one hundred percent that everything around
<v Speaker 1>it is more entertaining and perhaps has more of a
<v Speaker 1>lifespan and more substance and impact in the episodes themselves.
<v Speaker 2>Because you see often people share on social media, myself included,
<v Speaker 2>someone's made a fake Las Vegas betting like the betting
<v Speaker 2>Gods on the screen of who actually did it? And yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that never happened, but I remember they did the It
<v Speaker 2>was like a crime Stoppers kind of show in America,
<v Speaker 2>and what was it called Mary's Most Want h Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but it did like a fake one for this episode,
<v Speaker 2>like it was a big deal and it meant so much.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I just it pays me to say, But
<v Speaker 2>I think who Mister Burns may be a bit overrated
<v Speaker 2>in our mind's purely because of the event makes it
<v Speaker 2>seem like a better episode than what it was.
<v Speaker 1>Well, when something is overrated, I think it tends to
<v Speaker 1>be because it was incredibly propular and it has taken
<v Speaker 1>on a life of its own beyond the episode itself.
<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes it seems like people are reacting not so much
<v Speaker 1>to the material itself, but everything surrounding the material.
<v Speaker 2>Next question from Jim. Pop culture is filled with many
<v Speaker 2>larger than life characters. Who do you believe is the
<v Speaker 2>most springfield coded real life celebrity? I've gone with Jack Black. Oh, okay,
<v Speaker 2>I think Jack Black as a over active He's like
<v Speaker 2>an overactive child in a man's body. You know, he's
<v Speaker 2>got his over the top facial expressions. He's full of energy.
<v Speaker 2>He's just a lot of physical comedy. I think he
<v Speaker 2>could fit right into He feels like a Simpson's Carria.
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, life sales of another Jack And I'm not
<v Speaker 1>really I don't really know much. As we were saying before,
<v Speaker 1>you know, when we were talking about I've already forgot
<v Speaker 1>the name of that dreadful site future one that's going
<v Speaker 1>to become a bit of it. If the world of
<v Speaker 1>internet culture is sort of like I don't understand you,
<v Speaker 1>and there are internet personalities that quote unquote celebrities streamers now,
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Well, that's the thing, or people who were
<v Speaker 1>just your influencers. For instance, there was a young man
<v Speaker 1>apparently his name is Jack Dougherty. I think, yeah, he
<v Speaker 1>might be a bit of a nepo baby. It was
<v Speaker 1>only all his son of people who are very rich.
<v Speaker 1>Unless he's sort of created.
<v Speaker 2>Oh that guy, Yeah, and he got punched in the
<v Speaker 2>face ones or something or someone.
<v Speaker 1>He's basically someone on the Internet who goes around and
<v Speaker 1>he sort of you know, teases people and until he
<v Speaker 1>gets into fights. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's like twenty
<v Speaker 1>two or something and he only too Yeah. One of
<v Speaker 1>the things he sort of went viral for he had
<v Speaker 1>like a like a supercar, like a McLaren or something,
<v Speaker 1>and he just crashed it and his mate was filming
<v Speaker 1>at the time, and his mate sort of filmed the
<v Speaker 1>accent and filmed him walking away from bro I just
<v Speaker 1>totaled moment, Claire. He to my mind, if we're talking
<v Speaker 1>about Simpsons coded real life people, he is like Freddy
<v Speaker 1>Quimby or Gavin who wants bone.
<v Speaker 2>Storm, yes, or I think I think more Freddie. Freddy's
<v Speaker 2>got the money, yes, and he's just an absolute obnoxious
<v Speaker 2>wanker about it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And there's some other kid on the Simpsons who
<v Speaker 1>sort of has a little sort of he's very entireed,
<v Speaker 1>a little pig nose. He's only like supporting. But oh
<v Speaker 1>as a school kid, I'm thinking, yeah, I could be
<v Speaker 1>thinking of something. Okay anyway, But yeah, but he feels
<v Speaker 1>very Freddy quimbyish. And he also feels very kind of like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sharing the Queenland. I'm not sharing the game
<v Speaker 1>with Keathland. Shut up, mom by two, I'm not sharing
<v Speaker 1>with Kaitland, Yes, exactly. So I don't know, I get
<v Speaker 1>the feeling. Yeah, he feels like a Springfield terrible character.
<v Speaker 1>Sort of pulled out of the screen and put into
<v Speaker 1>our world, and we're all the worst for it.
<v Speaker 2>I also can see a character like Dennis Rodman. He
<v Speaker 2>feels just you know, he's so unpredictable, he's so insane.
<v Speaker 2>He feels like a background character that somehow becomes the
<v Speaker 2>main story.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, do we have any sports people like that these days?
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean high profile ones. I mean think of
<v Speaker 1>like high profile say NBA.
<v Speaker 2>Players who are willing to push limits like that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>the bad boys of the sport. Yeah, I don't think
<v Speaker 2>we have bad boys of the sport because people are
<v Speaker 2>just too focused on being canceled. Now, so he could
<v Speaker 2>Robin wouldn't survive now, you knowst thing?
<v Speaker 1>I think you could be outrage without being sort of
<v Speaker 1>doing stuff that gets you canceled.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the closest thing we have in Australian
<v Speaker 2>maybe Bailey Smith, That's what I was thinking, which is
<v Speaker 2>an AUSTRALIANRU football for Geelong.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very talented player, young man, and he's very sort
<v Speaker 1>of open about you know, he struggles with mental health
<v Speaker 1>and involves control and all that kind of stuff. But
<v Speaker 1>he also constantly wears a headband and looks like he's
<v Speaker 1>wearing eyeshadow and it kind of looks like Jack s Barrett.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on to an extens so I see Geelong's
<v Speaker 2>AFL coach Chris Scott very similar to Phil Jackson. And
<v Speaker 2>Phil Jackson was apparently known for a guy who had
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of characters and he knew how to handle
<v Speaker 2>each character and let them be themselves because he knew
<v Speaker 2>once they got on the court, they got shit done.
<v Speaker 1>Correct.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And Chris Scott seems to be a coach who's
<v Speaker 2>just like, I know they're fucking wild, yes, but I
<v Speaker 2>keep them. I keep them on a leash. They might
<v Speaker 2>think they're doing what they want. I keep them on
<v Speaker 2>their leash. I let them do what they want because
<v Speaker 2>they I know once they get on that field, they're
<v Speaker 2>gonna do what I asked him to do.
<v Speaker 1>It's good coaching. It's a good coach.
<v Speaker 2>He's a good coach. Indeed, right, next question here, this
<v Speaker 2>one comes from Scott. Scott says, is Principal Skinn a
<v Speaker 2>funnier pre or post the Arm and TAM's Erring episode
<v Speaker 2>which is Principal and the Paupers what he's referring to.
<v Speaker 2>Did it change your view of him? When rewatching previous episodes.
<v Speaker 2>I like that second part there. So do you think
<v Speaker 2>it was funny a pre or post? So first answer
<v Speaker 2>there is he was funny a pre because I think
<v Speaker 2>post he became a simp missus k. I think the
<v Speaker 2>character changed a lot post Grade School Confidential when he
<v Speaker 2>starts dating missus Kay, because he never seemed like a
<v Speaker 2>simple He seemed like a mumma's boy in the first
<v Speaker 2>eight seasons, and then he became just pathetic and the
<v Speaker 2>kids weren't afraid of him anymore. And I think a
<v Speaker 2>lot of characters just lost their fear fact. Burns is
<v Speaker 2>another one. The power plant employees weren't scared of him anymore.
<v Speaker 2>No one was scared of him. No one's scared of
<v Speaker 2>Nelson anymore. No one's scared of Burns anymore. No one's
<v Speaker 2>scared of Skinner anymore. You need those figures in the
<v Speaker 2>world who put the fear of Goide into people.
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing you need to give you a character,
<v Speaker 1>a fully rounded kind of personality and a life and
<v Speaker 1>an existence. But at the same time, what you really
<v Speaker 1>need to think about screenwriting lessons from you a Power
<v Speaker 1>Guy is how they fit into the story and the
<v Speaker 1>role they fit in the role they play in the
<v Speaker 1>overall story. Now real Skinner is an authority figure. You know,
<v Speaker 1>he's an antagonist to Bart, primarily with thinking about the
<v Speaker 1>Simpsons family and how they interact with the people around them.
<v Speaker 1>Homer is Homo's antagonist is mister Burns because you know,
<v Speaker 1>he has to go to work and it's like, oh, well,
<v Speaker 1>this is the guy who's running the show, and if
<v Speaker 1>I mess up or you know, if I cross this guy,
<v Speaker 1>I'm in trouble. No one likes their boss, and no
<v Speaker 1>one likes their boss except me. Um. Yeah, so Skinner
<v Speaker 1>needed to be a guy who is like, when I'm here,
<v Speaker 1>I'm running the show, and you know, this is how
<v Speaker 1>things have got to go in my school, except you know,
<v Speaker 1>he's always being you know, tripped up by Bart in
<v Speaker 1>one way, or Bart is always sort of pushing against
<v Speaker 1>that authority, and after hours as clear as like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>this guy's got feed to Clay because his mum's pushing
<v Speaker 1>him around. That's all you need. You don't need that
<v Speaker 1>many character traits. He's just like, oh, I'm an authority figure,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm doing that because when I go home, my
<v Speaker 1>mum's like, stand up straight see Moore or something like that.
<v Speaker 2>Also, when Bart gets revenge on Skinner, Bart's still the
<v Speaker 2>bad guy. Bar did something wrong, Skinner punishing for it,
<v Speaker 2>and Bar's getting eventually is a shithead. Yeah, it's not.
<v Speaker 2>It's not getting come up. It's because Skinner deserves it.
<v Speaker 2>Skinner don't deserve get his house agged and things. Absolutely,
<v Speaker 2>they're being disrespectful.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.
<v Speaker 2>So is he funny a pre? He's definitely funny a pre.
<v Speaker 1>I think so. Yes.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the character lost a bit of its luster.
<v Speaker 2>I won't think I don't think it lost its luster
<v Speaker 2>because of the arm and TAM's or anything.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that makes any difference at all at all.
<v Speaker 2>It's not the episode. It was the fact that he
<v Speaker 2>was now in a relationship with missus k And I
<v Speaker 2>think it seemed like a good idea at the time,
<v Speaker 2>But to keep that relationship going it just made it
<v Speaker 2>just de evolved the character. Yeah, I think so he
<v Speaker 2>lost his luster. He's lost his ability to have any
<v Speaker 2>sort of I don't know what's the term control over
<v Speaker 2>the kids. Yeah, and they had no respect for him anymore.
<v Speaker 2>He became a punchline.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if the authority Thinkure has no authority, then what's
<v Speaker 1>the point?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so I think and does it does it change?
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's funny that Yeah, he is
<v Speaker 1>the one that Skinner is the one who's trying to
<v Speaker 1>present this picture of like, yes, I'm running the show
<v Speaker 1>around here, except incomes Charmers, and Charmers is pushing him
<v Speaker 1>around as well.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but even they made Skinner less scared of
<v Speaker 2>Charmers by the end of they they ruined all those Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>those relationships they did, didn't They They took that sort
<v Speaker 2>of out of the comedy. But the second part of
<v Speaker 2>the question was does it affect your viewing of previous episodes?
<v Speaker 2>Not in any way, none, not at all. That those episodes,
<v Speaker 2>of those episodes they're funny, they're funny or they're not.
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<v Speaker 2>Molina says, got this one's for you guy. You joined
<v Speaker 2>the podcast after season ten? Has your view of the
<v Speaker 2>Simpsons changed since joining? So basically, I think she's trying
<v Speaker 2>to ask what we were for and the Simpsons going
<v Speaker 2>into it, and have has your opinion changed since?
<v Speaker 1>Thank you Malania Trump for this question. Thank you first lady,
<v Speaker 1>I hope you hope your movie is doing well.
<v Speaker 2>Melina, dammit, it's a.
<v Speaker 1>Good question and thank you. Has my view of the
<v Speaker 1>Simpsons changed since joining the show? Yeah, it's interesting. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>what did you think of.
<v Speaker 2>The Simpsons when you first joined it? What were your
<v Speaker 2>memories of the Simpsons? Did you think talking about the
<v Speaker 2>Simpsons or were you just like, oh, I'll do whateverse
<v Speaker 2>the pay the bills.
<v Speaker 1>A little from Colum, A little from Colum b Now.
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be interesting given that I had
<v Speaker 1>a real love and appreciation for The Simpsons. But yeah,
<v Speaker 1>again what we call Golden era, because I really it
<v Speaker 1>was a sense of human It was very much in
<v Speaker 1>sync with my own the episodes that I really loved,
<v Speaker 1>and also I recognized it as kind of like, well,
<v Speaker 1>this is really shifting a whole lot in terms of
<v Speaker 1>the way, you know, television comedy has made, American comedy
<v Speaker 1>has made. It was it's so rare when something becomes
<v Speaker 1>like part of the establishment almost immediately. I mean, and
<v Speaker 1>when I say almost immediate, I mean, of course it
<v Speaker 1>took a.
<v Speaker 2>Few years, but I think it was pretty instant. It
<v Speaker 2>was pretty instant because but I think also too, you
<v Speaker 2>entering the podcast in an era where you hadn't watched this.
<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing. Yeah, I mean when we started
<v Speaker 1>talking about from season ten on, was like, I know
<v Speaker 1>some of these episodes, but yeah, watching the Simpsons wasn't
<v Speaker 1>like a full on a point reviewing slash regular kind
<v Speaker 1>of thing. So never for you, oh not never, No,
<v Speaker 1>I mean there were certainly episodes, particularly from you know
<v Speaker 1>ten through to maybe like the mid teens, it was like, oh, yeah, look,
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot.
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking Golden era though, But when the Golden Era
<v Speaker 2>was on TV. Was it something that you were watching
<v Speaker 2>at all?
<v Speaker 1>I was sure, okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I watched it, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>pretty regularly. And of course they'd be repeat episodes. It's like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is on Fantasy'm gonna watch it because you would
<v Speaker 1>have been mid twenties. Yeah, and of course you know
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting around and beers with you mates, well, you know,
<v Speaker 1>maybe ingesting something else and just but how many times
<v Speaker 1>have we been on. Yeah, we've had guests on and
<v Speaker 1>we'll be talking about Oh, that just became part of
<v Speaker 1>my language. Either oh that's a punchline that I really like,
<v Speaker 1>or just a line becomes something you can apply to
<v Speaker 1>everyday life. Yeah, so I certainly found that. Yeah, but
<v Speaker 1>with episodes post season ten, a lot of it was
<v Speaker 1>oh this is a good reminder of something that I liked,
<v Speaker 1>or oh that's a reminder of something that i'd forgotten,
<v Speaker 1>or okay, this is fine. But you can also watch
<v Speaker 1>the development of the show both as a as its
<v Speaker 1>own creative thing, but also how it's responding to the
<v Speaker 1>entertainment environment around it. How many times have we said, oh, well,
<v Speaker 1>they know that South Park is on the same block now,
<v Speaker 1>and they have to adjust their thinking according or family
<v Speaker 1>guys at and oh they're trying to be a bit
<v Speaker 1>of family guy here. So I find that really interesting
<v Speaker 1>as well, maybe more so. I need more interesting from
<v Speaker 1>taking that big picture of you as opposed to I'm
<v Speaker 1>just enjoying this episode that we certainly times when I'm
<v Speaker 1>enjoying the episode, but I'm more thinking about it in
<v Speaker 1>terms of this is how it's responding to the way
<v Speaker 1>things are in the world or the way things are
<v Speaker 1>in the entertainment industry.
<v Speaker 2>Critiquing it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so haw's my view of The Simpsons changed
<v Speaker 1>since joining I guess I'm looking at it more as like,
<v Speaker 1>this is how it's made, This is how the sausage
<v Speaker 1>is made. And I find that just as invigorating and
<v Speaker 1>talking about it just as invigorating.
<v Speaker 2>I think you happen to watch it week to week
<v Speaker 2>to week, Yeah, you get a sense of this is
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing at this point in time. Absolutely, that
<v Speaker 2>is what the writer's room was into at the moment.
<v Speaker 1>That's right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, now, these questions he come from the
<v Speaker 2>Patreon group. So have you suppot of ours on Patreon?
<v Speaker 2>You get access to the Patreon group on Facebook, and
<v Speaker 2>we also have the Discord as well. Now just started
<v Speaker 2>a mail bag thread in the discord, So if you
<v Speaker 2>are on Discord and listen to the show. If you're
<v Speaker 2>not on Discord, insten to the show, jump onto the
<v Speaker 2>forig of Discant Discord and join in the mail bag
<v Speaker 2>thread in there as well. But it's when he comes
<v Speaker 2>from James Polstrump. He says, you've both sporadically referenced your
<v Speaker 2>old jobs prietually four Finger Discount. Can you tell us
<v Speaker 2>more about your backgrounds and how you ended up podcasting.
<v Speaker 2>We've touched on it before. You know, you journalist and
<v Speaker 2>you move reviewing as well, but just give a brief
<v Speaker 2>summary of Guy Davis pre ffd.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, I was, Yeah, a journalist and feature writer
<v Speaker 1>and a critic. Yeah, I mean writing about film, television
<v Speaker 1>culture in general. But also you know, a bit of
<v Speaker 1>everything overall Playboy overall Playboy. Yes, a man's man, woman's man,
<v Speaker 1>man about town. Men wanted him, men wanted to be correct,
<v Speaker 1>men wanted to do it. So, yeah, a bit of
<v Speaker 1>that for yeah, the bulk of my career. And occasionally,
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the way things going, you take other
<v Speaker 1>jobs to make ends meet, and I started doing a
<v Speaker 1>bit of work at Pop Culture, which is where I
<v Speaker 1>met Brendan Dan. First day, they plumped me down next
<v Speaker 1>to him and said, do what Dando does? How do
<v Speaker 1>you do it? Dan?
<v Speaker 2>The way I told you two minutes ago. Jesus Christ
<v Speaker 2>rather be here.
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Dan, I started talking about this thing
<v Speaker 1>that he did call a podcast on what is Like Radio.
<v Speaker 1>But no, the more he talked about it, the more
<v Speaker 1>intrigued I god, because he was clearly switched on and
<v Speaker 1>very very passionate about it. And they're very generously. He
<v Speaker 1>and former co host who shall not be named No Mitch,
<v Speaker 1>he invited, they invited me onto, I think talk about
<v Speaker 1>movies at some stage.
<v Speaker 2>So we did Kill Movie Guys, was a Patreon only thing.
<v Speaker 2>That's how it started.
<v Speaker 1>So we did a few episodes together and Mitch was like, skew,
<v Speaker 1>you guys have going harm and I'm like, well, God,
<v Speaker 1>you take that seat. Mitch decided to go get a
<v Speaker 1>proper job, and Dano very generously asked me to come
<v Speaker 1>on board. So since then, I mean again, it's been
<v Speaker 1>sort of the story in my career that I'll piece
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of things together and you know, basically
<v Speaker 1>make a living out of that, and this is part
<v Speaker 1>of that right now, which we do mbell work as well,
<v Speaker 1>and that's true work in pop culture sometimes and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so I'm very very happy to be part of the
<v Speaker 1>of the process. So that's yeah. Basically, if I had
<v Speaker 1>to you do that thing where you travel internationally, it
<v Speaker 1>was like, what do you do for a job? It's
<v Speaker 1>like when I put down journalist or writer. Yeah, so
<v Speaker 1>that's what I do.
<v Speaker 2>The way I got into podcasting, I think I was
<v Speaker 2>very much inspired by listen to the audio commentaries of
<v Speaker 2>The Simpsons DVDs and whatnot and for the first time
<v Speaker 2>being interested into not just the show but how the
<v Speaker 2>show was made. And I found myself more interested in
<v Speaker 2>hearing that than the actual dialogue of the show. And
<v Speaker 2>I used to go to bed every night listening to
<v Speaker 2>those commentaries, and I think that sort of inspired me
<v Speaker 2>to just become a podcast. Plus, we had a show
<v Speaker 2>called The Panel here and it shows me Wednesday nights,
<v Speaker 2>I think nine o'clock on Channel ten.
<v Speaker 1>When you said we thought you, you and Mitch were
<v Speaker 1>the Panel and I love that show.
<v Speaker 2>And even when I was a kid and a lot
<v Speaker 2>of the time i'd know it what they're talking about
<v Speaker 2>I just love the idea of just It felt like
<v Speaker 2>Mate's just sitting around chatting. Sure, and that's essentially what
<v Speaker 2>podcasting has become. It was just and so I think
<v Speaker 2>that was sort of my introduction to podcasting. Then my
<v Speaker 2>mate was a big fan of these guys called Open Anthony,
<v Speaker 2>and he used to download their their their radio shows
<v Speaker 2>and that uploaded. This is before podcast was even a
<v Speaker 2>terment was just you can now listen to the stream
<v Speaker 2>of their show after it's finished. And we'd sit there
<v Speaker 2>and then it'd be like a three hour show and
<v Speaker 2>we'd be in class and he'd eat but one en
<v Speaker 2>and I haven't, and the other we sit next to
<v Speaker 2>and we just listened to Open Anthony whilst we're working
<v Speaker 2>at school, and it was just we became obsessed with
<v Speaker 2>these guys talking and we started on our own podcast.
<v Speaker 2>We ended up getting to Michael and Dando show on
<v Speaker 2>local radio stations here, and then Michael eventually left to
<v Speaker 2>do his other thing, and I was like, I'm enjoying this.
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to keep doing it. And that eventually led
<v Speaker 2>to me doing more radio work solo, and then I
<v Speaker 2>went got picked up with k Rock. Caro came me
<v Speaker 2>on and I went, I'm sick of talking about pop
<v Speaker 2>stars and we'll talk about the Simpsons. And they all
<v Speaker 2>called me crazy. And then I left it and I
<v Speaker 2>started doing Simpsons podcasts and that took off, went really,
<v Speaker 2>really well. And my old boss of KI Rock, who
<v Speaker 2>moved to Triple M, called me, I think I've told
<v Speaker 2>this on the podcast. And the day I quit pop
<v Speaker 2>culture to podcasts full time, he called me up as
<v Speaker 2>I was walking to the car. You couldn't predict this.
<v Speaker 2>I'm walking to my car after quitting, leave my laptop behind,
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. He says, guess what I just did.
<v Speaker 2>And I said what, and he goes, just quit my job.
<v Speaker 2>I said why, and he goes, I'm starting to podcast.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, guys, you are He's like you guys. The
<v Speaker 2>first thing I thought of was I have to call
<v Speaker 2>Dando and tell him you were right.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the only thing. I did a bit of
<v Speaker 1>radio as well, for k Rock and BFM, the main
<v Speaker 1>stations down here in g Town.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right, now, next question, Andy d have you read, played,
<v Speaker 2>watched any good books, games, movies lately? Danel, I know
<v Speaker 2>you're not really a gamer, and guy doesn't really know
<v Speaker 2>how to turn onto PlayStation or anything like that. This
<v Speaker 2>is sadly true, yes, but it's always worth a check,
<v Speaker 2>So read it. Have you read anything that you've enjoyed lately?
<v Speaker 1>Ah? What have I read recently that I've enjoyed?
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to start the Tim Curry book that you
<v Speaker 2>got me.
<v Speaker 1>Ah. Cool, we're both about to start biographies then, and
<v Speaker 1>autobiographies because I recently got in the mail a book
<v Speaker 1>called Scene by a gentleman named Abel Ferrara. If you
<v Speaker 1>listen to the movie Guy with Martin Davis, you will
<v Speaker 1>have heard me seeing his praises recently. He's a guy,
<v Speaker 1>he's a bit of an underground filmmaker. Made one of
<v Speaker 1>my favorite movies of all the time, a chrome movie
<v Speaker 1>called Kingham, New York. Real character Abel Ferrara, very sort
<v Speaker 1>of a New York street guy, sort of. You know,
<v Speaker 1>he started off making porno movies, but porinals, porinals, but yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you would make these sort of gritty exploitation movies that
<v Speaker 1>have real, actual sort of themes and ideas in them,
<v Speaker 1>and work with legitimately good actors. And yeah, he's just
<v Speaker 1>lived a really interesting life and he's written his memoir now.
<v Speaker 1>He was like a he was a drug addict and
<v Speaker 1>a drunk for gods. Oh now really late in life
<v Speaker 1>he's sort of found Buddhism. He's become a dad late
<v Speaker 1>in life, and he's got of mellowed out his act
<v Speaker 1>and now he's writing about it all. So yeah. The
<v Speaker 1>book is called Scene s c n E. By Abel
<v Speaker 1>for Hour.
<v Speaker 2>I love a good autobiography.
<v Speaker 1>I remember, indeed, well you've got Tim Curry's plenty of him. Yes, yes,
<v Speaker 1>I do, indeed this one here from on? Sorry played it?
<v Speaker 2>So have I played anything I've touched on Last month
<v Speaker 2>I played at Simpsons Fortnite. Aliot has just gotten back
<v Speaker 2>into his AFI twenty six game. The thing is he's
<v Speaker 2>just he put does, put things on easiest mode.
<v Speaker 1>He won a game.
<v Speaker 2>I took a fight. I could have been showing my phone.
<v Speaker 2>He won a game by three hundred and twenty points. Yes,
<v Speaker 2>I said yesterday. Secret just kicking and doing the same thing.
<v Speaker 2>He's like, nah, it's great.
<v Speaker 1>Victory is so sweet.
<v Speaker 2>This is so good because I smashed him to take
<v Speaker 2>the chicken out the oven one second. Tell the list
<v Speaker 2>is what I'm about to do. We mentioned that I
<v Speaker 2>do this. I do this every podcast now.
<v Speaker 1>Frequently on the podcast, Dan will say, give me just
<v Speaker 1>a minute, I've got to go get the chicken out
<v Speaker 1>of the oven. This has become a very regular thing.
<v Speaker 1>So hopefully one of these days he's going to invite
<v Speaker 1>me over to actually eat chicken. Is it? What sort
<v Speaker 1>of He's back? He's back, baby, He's got the chicken
<v Speaker 1>out of the oven. And guess what. I've got a
<v Speaker 1>wife and now works from home, and she took the
<v Speaker 1>chicken out for me. Dad's going self one of those
<v Speaker 1>trade wives. Ye is it? What sort of chicken? Is
<v Speaker 1>it seasoned? Is it crumbed? What's just just breast chicken?
<v Speaker 1>That's what's some wrests in there? Yeah? Just slice it up.
<v Speaker 2>Let it call down a bit, slice it up, put
<v Speaker 2>it in a wrap, yeah, man, with some aoli and
<v Speaker 2>some lettuce and some mayo.
<v Speaker 1>Some red onion and aoli? Is mayo? What did I say?
<v Speaker 2>Did I say mayo?
<v Speaker 1>Is it ali and mayo? Don't double up? Man a letter?
<v Speaker 2>Some of the tomato tomorrow, I'm gonna say tomato. I
<v Speaker 2>think tomato, onion, some salt and pepper and some spinach.
<v Speaker 2>And it sounds very nice, delicious, nothing like your unboard
<v Speaker 2>am burger, but you.
<v Speaker 1>Know it does sand which is pretty simple. That's yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Have we washed anything that we've enjoyed lately?
<v Speaker 1>What's something here? Here's here's a teaser.
<v Speaker 2>He's like a pilot for your show that you keep
<v Speaker 2>wanting to start something that you think people will enjoy
<v Speaker 2>that no one's talking about.
<v Speaker 1>That's correct. Give me, give me man, oh man. She
<v Speaker 1>was debb before I started. It's not a different started,
<v Speaker 1>but you put me on the spot. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>because I think a few people watch this, But just
<v Speaker 1>the other night, I'm trying to be sort of relatively
<v Speaker 1>good in what I intake in terms of like, you know, food,
<v Speaker 1>but culture as well. But also gave myself a bit
<v Speaker 1>of an escape. Hats like at the end of the month,
<v Speaker 1>treat yourself or just indulge yourself, just get trashy with
<v Speaker 1>your tastes. So grab some macers because they're advertising the
<v Speaker 1>Bernese Burgers. Like, oh, that sounds fancy. Watched it? What
<v Speaker 1>too bad? It was pretty good? So I got the
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've got the macas meal. It's like, what's
<v Speaker 1>a good compliment for this final destination? Bloodlines on four K,
<v Speaker 1>which I've already seen once before it's like, what did
<v Speaker 1>I what nighting? What did I get you? On?
<v Speaker 2>Four? K?
<v Speaker 1>You got me fade to black right, which I'm is
<v Speaker 1>on the list?
<v Speaker 2>How is that just having on the shove ready to go.
<v Speaker 1>I've got so many special fatures, but I just down
<v Speaker 1>some fast food and no just you, just me. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>I've been over seeing the lovely noise and my hams
<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, I'm gonna get myself a little midnight snack.
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, watch a watch a gory horror movie is
<v Speaker 1>a good movie. It's really good. I love the final destination.
<v Speaker 2>I've we've got up some before. I want to watch
<v Speaker 2>them all before I get to number six. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>four was kind of garbage. That four is not the
<v Speaker 2>good one. I couldn't get through. I'll finished this.
<v Speaker 1>The first three. The first three are really good.
<v Speaker 2>Three d was three yeah, three days yeah, three.
<v Speaker 1>Day was great, four was five is okay? And yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this last one, the sixth one, is really good. I'm
<v Speaker 1>surprised there hasn't been like twenty of them already. Fine,
<v Speaker 1>And it just feels like it's such a basic, simple
<v Speaker 1>concept and you don't just think five creative ways to
<v Speaker 1>kill people done? Yeah, and you're killing people all the time.
<v Speaker 1>You don't have recurring characters in this ship.
<v Speaker 2>We don't have to feel emotionally connected to them.
<v Speaker 1>We just care about how they're dying. Did you This
<v Speaker 1>went online the other day, the trailer of the Scary
<v Speaker 1>Movie reboot.
<v Speaker 2>I've not seen any of it now. I keep seeing
<v Speaker 2>things pop up with what's his name, who's the Waynes?
<v Speaker 1>Waynes?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, doing interviews and I'm like, Eh, they just wanted
<v Speaker 2>to do that smoking face. Yeah, just that I'm the
<v Speaker 2>high face. I'm like, that's all this has become.
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's all it ever was. Yeah. Yeah, I watched
<v Speaker 1>the trailering oh god, but there's a whole generation people like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we can't believe it's back.
<v Speaker 2>That makes I am. I remember Scary Movie one being
<v Speaker 2>a big deal when it came out and we all
<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed it. But then it got to like number
<v Speaker 2>three and I was like, ah, this this is all
<v Speaker 2>you go? Huh oh?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? But which one had Charlie Sheen and it I
<v Speaker 1>think that might have been three, three or four. Apparently
<v Speaker 1>those movies makes them like major, I'm more than the
<v Speaker 1>screen movies that inspired them. Yeah, there you go. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's something that's something that I watch and really enjoyed,
<v Speaker 1>if you're into that kind of thing.
<v Speaker 2>John Luoney here says, if you and guy were trapped
<v Speaker 2>on an island, how long and who would be the
<v Speaker 2>first one to turn to cannibalism? Expand on this, Boney, buddy,
<v Speaker 2>who would be the first to resort to cannibalism? I
<v Speaker 2>don't think I could kill anybody. I think I could
<v Speaker 2>kill you. I think I think you'd probably have to
<v Speaker 2>kill me. I would say, look, we're going to die
<v Speaker 2>anyway you have me.
<v Speaker 1>I thanks, thanks, buddy. I think we would learn how
<v Speaker 1>to fish. You go for a swim, try and find something. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. Here's another thing I heard just recently, and
<v Speaker 1>I might have alluded to this. I think I probably
<v Speaker 1>actually talked about this in the recent episode. But there's
<v Speaker 1>a new TV mini series of Lord of the Flies,
<v Speaker 1>not Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Flies.
<v Speaker 2>You know that story about the we do a higher school,
<v Speaker 2>do it at school?
<v Speaker 1>Or piggy for a little piggy, But yeah, it's basically
<v Speaker 1>about the kids. Who are you stranding on a desert island?
<v Speaker 1>Whole bunch of little preteen boys.
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what das Bus was a take off
<v Speaker 2>of and they all descend into savagery and they were
<v Speaker 2>not rescued by Mo. And this guy like he's a
<v Speaker 2>modern philosopher named Rutka Bregman, he was talking about this
<v Speaker 2>and he said, yeah, people always talking about, oh, little
<v Speaker 2>boys are savages, and they always cite Lord of the Flies.
<v Speaker 2>Here's an actual thing that happened. A bunch of boys
<v Speaker 2>from a believed Tonga went out on a boat one day.
<v Speaker 2>They did the cartman think of, like, yeah, let's go
<v Speaker 2>play on Uncle Roy's boat. They got lost and they
<v Speaker 2>drifted and they they were about maybe eight of them,
<v Speaker 2>and they ended up drifting out at sea and they
<v Speaker 2>got lost on it and they ended up.
<v Speaker 1>On an I may remember this story. I think I
<v Speaker 1>told you not too long ago. And it was like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>and do they all kill each other and in each
<v Speaker 1>other John Looney style? No, they did not. They all
<v Speaker 1>worked together. They collaborated. They built a little gym so
<v Speaker 1>they yeah, so they could like keep their strength up
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But they was like, okay, mate, your job
<v Speaker 1>to maintain the fire, maintain the signal path so we
<v Speaker 1>might get rescued. You guys, you're searching for food, okay,
<v Speaker 1>and we'll swap roles occasionally so nobody gets you know.
<v Speaker 2>The Tonguan Castaway, as they're called, a group of six
<v Speaker 2>Tongue and teenage boys who shipwrecked on an inhibited island
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty five and lived there.
<v Speaker 1>For fifteen months.
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen months, the boys ran away from their boarding school
<v Speaker 2>on the island of Tongue Tapoo Tongue Tapoo, stealing a
<v Speaker 2>boat in their escape. After a storm wrecked the boat,
<v Speaker 2>they drifted to the abandoned remote island and managed to
<v Speaker 2>keep themselves in good order for the dureration under the circumstances.
<v Speaker 2>Long thought dead, they were discovered and rescued in September
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty six by Australian lobster fisher up Peter Warner.
<v Speaker 1>That is incredible, isn't that great? Yeah, so I get
<v Speaker 1>the veiling, dwann Or, and I would basically set up
<v Speaker 1>a functional society. In fact, we would probably create a
<v Speaker 1>resort that people would want to come to. How did
<v Speaker 1>they eat? What did they eat? I wonder?
<v Speaker 2>Initially they were desperate for food and water, but their
<v Speaker 2>situation improved after three months when they discovered the ruins
<v Speaker 2>of the village of column Mail in the island's volcanic crater.
<v Speaker 2>Following a two day climb, they revived the remnants of
<v Speaker 2>nineteenth century habitation, surviving on feral chickens bananas, and they're
<v Speaker 2>just fed away.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, lifelone's away. Yeah. Tonguans find a way captured
<v Speaker 1>rain water for drinking and they've just they made it work. Yeah, yes,
<v Speaker 1>he've worked it out. It's problem solved. So that would
<v Speaker 1>that would be Dan all night?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, i'd hope. So anyway, that's what he makes
<v Speaker 2>me think.
<v Speaker 1>A big bam spice, feral chickens, white work where knocking
<v Speaker 1>on my head?
<v Speaker 2>This one here is from James Umerlane, greeting from Ireland.
<v Speaker 2>Hello James, Hello James. I've been listening to you since
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen and I dip in and out of Patreon
<v Speaker 2>when I can afford it.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you James for doing that.
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely love all your different podcasts, so thank you
<v Speaker 2>all for the wonderful content over the years. So just
<v Speaker 2>a question for you about the Simpsons. So if it's
<v Speaker 2>already been asked, but I've been interested in your taking it.
<v Speaker 2>I've always defended the non Golden era of seasons as
<v Speaker 2>they aren't completely shit as some people make it out,
<v Speaker 2>but I always admit that there is a decent there
<v Speaker 2>is a decline in quality. Question to you is was
<v Speaker 2>there a particular episode or a moment that when you
<v Speaker 2>first saw it air it made you go, oh shit,
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't very good at all, now was it. I
<v Speaker 2>can remember vividly watching the Brazil episode, which was very good,
<v Speaker 2>but when Marge did the worry and dance at the
<v Speaker 2>same time, it was honestly like feeling the feeling you
<v Speaker 2>get when you realize that your dad isn't actually a superhero. Anyway,
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear what your thoughts about that. Ah,
<v Speaker 2>thanks a million for the excellent content. James, Thank you, James, James,
<v Speaker 2>thank you for that excellent letter. I think for me
<v Speaker 2>it was the episode where Hammah was being reviewed. It
<v Speaker 2>Hommah was being hunted down by an assassin and then
<v Speaker 2>it turns out to be Frank Grimes Junior.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>I remember watching that for the first time when I
<v Speaker 2>was a teenager and going that shit, just whatever. I
<v Speaker 2>was not a fan of it. Also the Italian Bob,
<v Speaker 2>which I liked when we did a review, but I
<v Speaker 2>remember when we first When I first saw it, I went,
<v Speaker 2>this is the show that I remember it being. I
<v Speaker 2>just remember just not liking those episodes, and those were
<v Speaker 2>the moments for me where I went, ah, yeah, I.
<v Speaker 1>Wish I could think of something specific, But I do
<v Speaker 1>recall a sort of a shift in tone where yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's that's very much the go too.
<v Speaker 2>But I think that was a rock in a what
<v Speaker 2>would you call it, like a pile not of diamonds.
<v Speaker 2>But it was like that episode wasn't that ear of
<v Speaker 2>the show wasn't terrible, It's just you just don't like
<v Speaker 2>that particular episode that.
<v Speaker 1>Could well be it. Yeah, but yeah, I'm trying to
<v Speaker 1>remember a specific moment or a specific episode, But I
<v Speaker 1>do recall sort of a shift in tone where it's like,
<v Speaker 1>you guys used to sort of set the tone and
<v Speaker 1>you were very much making yourselves laugh in a lot
<v Speaker 1>of ways, and you're trying to keep up with the tone. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>oh god, I guess I wish I could recall the
<v Speaker 1>specific kind of thing that that made me feel this
<v Speaker 1>was like, are you're trying to catch up? You used
<v Speaker 1>to lead the pack and now it's like I think
<v Speaker 1>they like this. Yeah, yeah, it's a tough one, but
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing where it sucks.
<v Speaker 2>When you see a show that felt like The Powerhouse,
<v Speaker 2>seem vulnerable, Yes and insecure.
<v Speaker 1>Insecure is a good way of putting it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hello Dano and Guy. This one's from a H. Bewie,
<v Speaker 2>long time listener, first time emailer. Firstly, thanks for answering
<v Speaker 2>my favorite movie of twenty twenty five question on your
<v Speaker 2>Facebook Patreon. I'm sure we would must have a mailbak. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we've heard from m Yes. Yes, I might have said
<v Speaker 2>it a bit abrupt when I posted it. I was
<v Speaker 2>in a rush at the time, so sorry about that. Also,
<v Speaker 2>you both nailed the pronunciation of my name. Most people
<v Speaker 2>say it like Ann the Anglo way. Most traditionally it
<v Speaker 2>is pronounced and for simplicity, I just go with an.
<v Speaker 2>So it's Anne as in A and H and as
<v Speaker 2>opposed to N N and and Bwie. Just wanted to
<v Speaker 2>say thanks for all the great podcasts. Four Finger disc
<v Speaker 2>gag going down to South Park speaking of the hill
<v Speaker 2>Bob's pods, you name it. You make my commute and
<v Speaker 2>the open plant offers chaos much more bearable. I've got
<v Speaker 2>another movie question for you. What's your most memorable movie
<v Speaker 2>theater experience doesn't have to be the first time you
<v Speaker 2>watched a movie or anything like that. Mine would have
<v Speaker 2>to be the Return of the King in a dingy
<v Speaker 2>cinema back in two thousand and three. The crowd reactions
<v Speaker 2>were perfect for all the big moments. Another one is
<v Speaker 2>The Dark Knight in two thousand and I can't remember
<v Speaker 2>the last time a cinema felt that tense. Thanks again,
<v Speaker 2>and keep podcasting and.
<v Speaker 1>We certainly will, yes, and keep podcasting. Um, do you
<v Speaker 1>want to go first?
<v Speaker 2>I have memories of going to the it's more sort
<v Speaker 2>of just what it meant to me for that moment
<v Speaker 2>wasn't necessarily the cinema experience. But I remember going to
<v Speaker 2>see Space Jam for the first time. I mentioned this
<v Speaker 2>with my mum and that was the first and only
<v Speaker 2>time that my mum and I went to the cinema
<v Speaker 2>as just us. So I have fond memories of his
<v Speaker 2>going there. And obviously it was full of kids and
<v Speaker 2>it was just whow it's Michael Jordan and the Lynchins.
<v Speaker 2>Kids are having a great time.
<v Speaker 1>And I was there.
<v Speaker 2>There's a said the Sipper cup over there on the bench.
<v Speaker 2>That's the original Space Jam supper cup a little mini
<v Speaker 2>game on topic. You can flicker basketball around. But I
<v Speaker 2>just have these great memories of going to the movies
<v Speaker 2>with Mum and it's just been like, it's just us today.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's not my sister here, It's just us and
<v Speaker 2>it felt special. I remember even though it turns out
<v Speaker 2>in retrospect it wasn't a great movie, but the idea
<v Speaker 2>of lining up for a film isn't something that with
<v Speaker 2>people do anymore. But lining up for six hours to
<v Speaker 2>see Force Awakens, Yeah, absolutely, that felt cool. It felt
<v Speaker 2>like such a community feel of being the first one
<v Speaker 2>is there and just seeing the line get bigger and
<v Speaker 2>bigg and bigger, and just the excitement everyone talking the
<v Speaker 2>line of is going to happen. We're all there for
<v Speaker 2>the same reason, and just you could feel the excitement
<v Speaker 2>in the air just in the line. That was That's
<v Speaker 2>something that I'll always remember.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think mine. I may have told this story before,
<v Speaker 1>aren't so forgive me? When I was sure, I would
<v Speaker 1>have been fifteen or sixteen. I went to see Back
<v Speaker 1>to the Future at the Forum Cinema in Melbourne. I
<v Speaker 1>knew about it, but I didn't know everything about it.
<v Speaker 1>This is you know, this was nineteen eighty five. This
<v Speaker 1>is near when you didn't have everything spoiling for any
<v Speaker 1>of the basic concept. It's like, oh, he's a kid
<v Speaker 1>from nineteen eighty five who goes back to nineteen fifty
<v Speaker 1>five and gets involved in various shenanigans. Loved it from
<v Speaker 1>the start, you know, it was like, oh, wow, this
<v Speaker 1>is really energetic and funny and all this kind of stuff.
<v Speaker 1>And it goes along, and it goes along and yeah,
<v Speaker 1>looks spoilers back to the future here.
<v Speaker 2>But the Biff moment, Yeah, the Biff.
<v Speaker 1>Moment where you know Biff is, you know, getting a
<v Speaker 1>bit handsy with Lorraine, and they've said up this whole
<v Speaker 1>thing where it's like, oh, Georgian Fly's going to come
<v Speaker 1>in and save the day by pretending to knock out Marty,
<v Speaker 1>except it's Bif there. His bully has been tormenting in
<v Speaker 1>the whole movie. George McFly finally stands up for himself.
<v Speaker 1>I do bat At mefly punches out Biff. It was
<v Speaker 1>a crowded cinema and we just not stood up as one,
<v Speaker 1>but we were like, yeah, just the this is something
<v Speaker 1>that we've lost a little bit in modern movie that
<v Speaker 1>communal experience is just like everybody was just feeling the
<v Speaker 1>same thing. It felt like we were just all parts
<v Speaker 1>of one collective hole. It was fantastic.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I had a similar experience to that kind of moment,
<v Speaker 2>but it was more just a comedy aspect, because comedies
<v Speaker 2>don't really They're very rare these days in the cinema,
<v Speaker 2>and we went anti condas Nicola and I. I messaged
<v Speaker 2>you when we were in. I was like, fucking cinemas
<v Speaker 2>full man, I'm crazy. I haven't been this way for
<v Speaker 2>a long time. And as a moment in the film
<v Speaker 2>where I don't want to spoil anything, but Jack Black
<v Speaker 2>is running away with a pig stretched to his head, right,
<v Speaker 2>and they thought the pig was dead and spoiled. It's
<v Speaker 2>not dead, right, and it's attachment and they're running away
<v Speaker 2>from the anticonda and just the you have to sort
<v Speaker 2>of be there, you have to sort of to see
<v Speaker 2>the film, know what I'm talking about. It's fucking hilarious, right,
<v Speaker 2>But everyone in the cinema was just uproariously laughing. I
<v Speaker 2>was like, like, you said, this is what's missing now
<v Speaker 2>watching films too. No phones are out. We're watching the
<v Speaker 2>movie and we're all enjoying it in a shared experience.
<v Speaker 2>We're all and because we're doing it, it made it
<v Speaker 2>feel funnier as well. I was, we're all laughing together.
<v Speaker 2>It was a real special moment.
<v Speaker 1>And once that happens, it gains a bit of momentum
<v Speaker 1>as well. I mean, going back to that, back to
<v Speaker 1>the future screening, I mean what happens after that is
<v Speaker 1>you know Marty who's been he's had his own difficulties
<v Speaker 1>with like, oh, you know, I want to get up
<v Speaker 1>and play my music, but you know what if nobody
<v Speaker 1>likes it, and he finally gets his chance to be
<v Speaker 1>on stage, and you know, he starts playing Johnny be Good.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like, holy shit, this is great. Then he starts
<v Speaker 1>playing heavy metal andone's like, what the fuck is going on?
<v Speaker 1>We just thought it was the funniest damn thing we've
<v Speaker 1>ever seen our lives. Everyone just like, oh my god,
<v Speaker 1>this is so great. Yeah, just this general feeling of
<v Speaker 1>joy and goodwill and happiness. We're all enjoying the same thing,
<v Speaker 1>and we're all enjoying it together because even though none
<v Speaker 1>of us knew one another. I tried to rewatch.
<v Speaker 2>Why I tried, I did I rewatched that clip from
<v Speaker 2>any Conda's just on my phone the other day and
<v Speaker 2>I watched her.
<v Speaker 1>Going Its funny as I remember, But the thing is,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in a room for people all laughing. You know.
<v Speaker 2>It made that scene feel funny than what it actually was.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that is a good question. And thanks for
<v Speaker 2>that question, Linna's you another one. He just loves it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we love him, we do. But look out, it's coming through.
<v Speaker 2>So it's like a weird format. I can't see. I
<v Speaker 2>can't read it properly.
<v Speaker 1>Is this question all spoilers?
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to I'm going to copy it, paste
<v Speaker 2>it into a notepad and hopefully we can read this. Sorry,
<v Speaker 2>then you will be right back.
<v Speaker 1>Hang on, there we go. See what I did. I
<v Speaker 1>had a problem and I worked around it. And that's true.
<v Speaker 1>So this is why I wound away. This is not
<v Speaker 1>why we would not kill each other on a designaland.
<v Speaker 2>So Looney says, this is the tagline Simpsons in real life.
<v Speaker 2>Growing up with the Simpsons, we can all find similar
<v Speaker 2>is within the show and things relating to growing up.
<v Speaker 2>Things to relate to growing up. I could not relate
<v Speaker 2>more to Bart and Roden pod I was the evil cousin,
<v Speaker 2>and my two cousins, Tom and Jake were like the
<v Speaker 2>real life Flanders boys. There were weekly calls from their
<v Speaker 2>mother to my father complaining about words that I had
<v Speaker 2>taught them or things that I had said. I was
<v Speaker 2>not an evil or bad kid. They just viewed me
<v Speaker 2>as the sinning black sheep. My father even called them
<v Speaker 2>Rod and Todd whilst were growing up. I could write
<v Speaker 2>endless stories about growing up, but I'll limit it to
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorites. When Guitar Hero came out, it
<v Speaker 2>was massive, and I remember trying to bring it over
<v Speaker 2>and show them the new game and have some fun
<v Speaker 2>with it. The second his father heard the band White Zombie,
<v Speaker 2>he came rushing into the room and unplugged it. The
<v Speaker 2>next time I was over, they told me that they
<v Speaker 2>hate Guitar Hero until I noticed it was a Christian
<v Speaker 2>based Guitar Hero knockoff, so no rock or metal or sin,
<v Speaker 2>only holiness and Jesus. The entire afternoon I was subjected
<v Speaker 2>to audio waterboarding with those songs. All respects said, but
<v Speaker 2>not my cup of tea. Thank you for all that
<v Speaker 2>you guys do and wishing.
<v Speaker 1>You the best. I just love it. It's always like
<v Speaker 1>religious alternatives. It's like, but this, this feels like the
<v Speaker 1>Simpsons could do this. Savior, you have your guitaro, we
<v Speaker 1>have our savior. Savior here. It's like the religious songs
<v Speaker 1>and what would be on there? Can you take me?
<v Speaker 2>That's even too rocky? I think that's too rocky for Flanders.
<v Speaker 1>Creed were sort of Christian, weren't they.
<v Speaker 2>They were?
<v Speaker 1>Ye Striper. Striper was like a Christian metal band, okay
<v Speaker 1>in the eighties. Yeah, Stripper Stripper with a Y. Of course,
<v Speaker 1>there's a why ye Striper.
<v Speaker 2>It's like there's a wrestling team called the Hardy Boys
<v Speaker 2>and Z. Everything was Z the Boys Boys.
<v Speaker 1>Too, men not a delivery service. I mean, I'm aware
<v Speaker 1>of Christian rock, but I can't say any sort of
<v Speaker 1>at least to mind at the moment. I think Live
<v Speaker 1>were a Christian rock band, weren't they sort of? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins, Crab God. I was into Live for a
<v Speaker 1>minute there. I thought they weren't too bad anyway.
<v Speaker 2>But yes, so that is a good, good story that
<v Speaker 2>I can actually believe happening on The Simpsons.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. I didn't know there was religious
<v Speaker 1>Christian knockoffs of guitar hero. That's amazing, good story, learnie.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, all right, guys, So that will do for
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