Hour 3 – NFL Black Monday Extended, Jesse Palmer

The Dan Patrick Show

Dan continues to focus on the NFL coaching carousel as there are now eight currently vacant head coaching positions. And former QB and current college football analyst Jesse Palmer drops by to weigh in on the state of college football on the eve of the College Football Playoff Semifinals.

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

00:00:04
Speaker 2: We now have eight job openings. Twenty five percent of the NFL needs a new head coach. Where are they coming from? Welcome to the final hour in this Thursday Dan and The Dane's Dan Patrick Show. Good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app to watch the program and our radio affiliates numbering over four hundred cities that carry the program. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. Sunday night, Justin Herbert and the battle tested Chargers against Drake May and the AFC Champion AFC East Champion Patriots. Only one team will be left standing. This is wild Card Weekend, Sunday seven thirty easton on NBC and Peacock. That is a great matchup, though Jesse Palmer will join us. Coming up in a little bit, we'll talk about tonight's game Old Miss Miami in the Fiesta Bowl, and then tomorrow night the rematch between Indiana and Oregon. Seaton Pole question for the final hour of the program. Mike McDaniel has been fired by the Miami Dolphins.

00:01:12
Speaker 3: Which team got better yesterday? The Atlanta Hawks have fifty five percent of that vote, as opposed to the Washington Wizards. And Paul submitted our annual Ryan Fitzpatrick pole question. Would you rather your kid go to Harvard or the NFL right now?

00:01:25
Speaker 2: Results pending? Or you could be Ryan Fitzpatrick and you could do both.

00:01:30
Speaker 3: You could do both.

00:01:34
Speaker 2: It's too vague. I mean, is my kid any good? Is he gonna be three years in the NFL? I'd rather have him go to Harvard. If he's going to be three years and done, that's the average career span for an NFL player, So I'd say Harvard. Harvard's a lifetime.

00:01:51
Speaker 3: Four years at Harvard is better than three years in the NFL. Yes, you think, yes, Todd.

00:01:55
Speaker 4: And the way you could be a GM don't have to worry about concussions, make a lot of money in the front officetead of worrying about being down on the Phil.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Tod all right at eight seven seven three DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at tp show. So twenty five percent of the NFL needs a new head coach. I thought we were going to have five or six openings. Now here we are with eight, it doesn't mean that we won't get to nine. I don't know if we get to ten. I wouldn't rule out nine though, because somebody, whether they're in the playoffs or like, if your Tampa Bay, would you make a change with John Harball? I mean it's it is an upgrade, Kevin Stefanski, highly thought of. And this is where I'm guessing in Miami, Steven Ross probably went, wait a minute, we can get John Harball, or we have the opportunity. Troy Aikman is a consultant for us. Maybe we could get John Harball. That's an upgrade. Kevin Stefanski, that would be an upgrade. But if you're Tampa Bay, I'm gonna throw in Buffalo because it just feels like something could happen there. I don't know if there's another scenario. You know, Green Bay doesn't make these kind of rash decisions. Yeah, granted, they lost what four in a row leading into this game, and you know, the who's favored in that game with the Bears, It's gone back and forth, so it's a toss up, it's a pick him game. And you got love who was out Micah Parson's done for the year. Doesn't feel like Matt Lafleur is coaching for his job. But you look at these other scenarios here where Now all of a sudden, you know the stakes, This is high stakes poker, this is Texas, hold him or fold him with some of these owners, and what do you do? Yes, Marvin and.

00:03:57
Speaker 5: I think the Micah Parson's injury helps Matt Lafleur because wait, wait, I didn't have my best defensive player, so if they lose, he's kind of got an excuse.

00:04:05
Speaker 2: Well, Mike McDaniel, we thought had an excuse too. Tyrek Hill goes down, but I think they were trading Tyreek Hill before he got injured. Then all of a sudden, you lose your best defensive lineman and one of your or maybe best defensive back. You don't go all in and trade. You know your running back and your other wide receiver in Miami, and you stay there with Tua. Then all of a sudden, you quinn Ewers gives you a better chance of winning. It felt like Tua and Mike McDaniel were attached. Therefore, when Mike was keeping his job, I thought, well, maybe Tua is going to be able to come back. But I'm wondering, can you ship him off or is that one of those Russell Wilson man, This is going to hurt the salary cap, but we got to do this for the betterment of this team. And is that a good job going into You want a head coaching job if you haven't had the opportunit. But if you're John Harbaugh, that's eighteen years. You pick where you want to go. You don't have to take a job, but you need to win now. He's not in for a rebuild. I don't think the Giants are a rebuild, obviously, the Raiders are a rebuild. Tennessee is rebuilding. Miami is sort of in that no man's land. They're not good, but they're not bad. They're just eh, yeah, Pully.

00:05:33
Speaker 6: I went back and looked at the Dolphins after Week seven. They just lost six of their first seven. They just lost thirty one to six to the Browns, and our pole question the next day was does Mike McDaniel make it to dinner? And then he won five of his next six and staved it off for a while.

00:05:51
Speaker 2: And that's where I said at the time, if you're going to fire him, then fire him because there's a chance they're going to win some games. When you win games, they won five of six. Now all of a sudden, you have that conundrum of, well, wait a minute, what team and what coach do I have the first half of the season or what they're showing me in the second half of the season. And owners have admitted to this that you'll see teams that are better the following year by the way they finish the regular season. You might not be good as far as qualifying for the playoffs. But it's like the Lions. When the Lions closed fast a couple of years ago, I said, and I thought they were going to make the playoffs that year. I said, look out for the Lions the next year, and they went to the NFC title gain I believe, how do you close? It's like Atlanta played well at the end of the year. History has shown if you play well at the end of the year and you're not a playoff team, chances are it'll carry over. You found something. Maybe it took longer than it should have, but maybe you have something in some of these places that you closed out and you played hard, you played well. Yes, Ton at the risk.

00:07:06
Speaker 4: Of sounding insensitive, hasn't black Monday lost some of its luster? If several days later you can get fired possably even have to lose a playoff game, which we're going to find out in the week or two ahead. What is black Monday at this point?

00:07:17
Speaker 2: How about black Week just the entire week?

00:07:21
Speaker 7: Or is it gray Monday?

00:07:21
Speaker 4: Is it a lighter shade because it's like not as scary as it's not really black Monday anymore.

00:07:25
Speaker 7: If you're gonna get fired on Thursday.

00:07:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about you might get fired this week? Like that? That's all worked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, See, it is kind of crazy that we've all bought in on the concept of black Monday as a thing. Yeah, that we all know, and that so much so that Tud's disappointed that it has lost this luster. It's not the Black Monday we used to know.

00:07:44
Speaker 4: I have to be fighted within twenty four hours of the last game of the regular.

00:07:47
Speaker 3: Seas, wait to see all these guys get fired.

00:07:49
Speaker 6: When people lose their livelihood and their dreams, we should do it in a format that's.

00:07:52
Speaker 2: Come on, good for us. It's not fair.

00:07:55
Speaker 7: Make a decision.

00:07:56
Speaker 3: Let's sponsor it next year by like an employment agency. Or something. Let's get uh indeed on there, coach, you need indeed minimum kindness. Uh the sensitivity level of you that never sees.

00:08:15
Speaker 1: We can't celebrate.

00:08:16
Speaker 3: Black the most sensitive slash insensitive person.

00:08:19
Speaker 2: That's true. Nobody fakes sincerity quite like you do. Nobody fair well, by the way, Random random thing, random topic. Tomorrow night, I have a zoom call at six o'clock for a half hour with the psychic and she I got this Christmas gift. She is going to tell me about my dog winning and I had to send her pictures. And I get to uh, I get to wait and hear about my dog.

00:08:55
Speaker 3: I smill smoke smoke.

00:08:59
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's telling me that you don't smoke.

00:09:00
Speaker 3: That's why I smell the smoke. It's a clue that you don't smoke.

00:09:03
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh so I and then my daughter has a cat, a main coon cat. And then she gets the other half hour. So I get a zoom call with a psychic about your dog, about my dog and my cat.

00:09:15
Speaker 7: Yeah.

00:09:16
Speaker 2: And we're on a zoom call with the psychic with our pets.

00:09:20
Speaker 3: When he is upset about the treats. Situation feels it's a little lacking, Yes, Paul, I.

00:09:25
Speaker 6: Don't want to put poo this, but I would see those psychic offices and I want to walk in and say, tell me my middle name. If you tell me my middle name, I'll sit down and pay the fee how much?

00:09:35
Speaker 2: I don't know that guy, Oh's doctor os. Yeah, Oh's pearlman. He might be able to tell your middle name. That guy does some crazy, crazy stuff. I don't know how he's doing it, but you'll see him with the NFL teams, saw him with the rams and the bills, and I'm like, damn, something's going on there. Yeah, Paul, what.

00:09:55
Speaker 6: Are you going to ask your psychic tomorrow?

00:09:57
Speaker 2: I'm not asking, Oh, I'm listening.

00:09:58
Speaker 6: They're presenting.

00:09:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go tell me about my pet. I'm not going to give you any hints about Winnie No and the main coon. His name is Kevin. So we're gonna be sitting there with the psych on on a zoom call. Man, do I live the life? Yes? Dodd?

00:10:14
Speaker 7: Did you reach out to the psychic for an appointment?

00:10:16
Speaker 4: And if so, it doesn't make sense because the psychic should have known in advance that you needed this help and they would have reached out to you.

00:10:22
Speaker 2: Well, one of my children gave me. This is a Christmas gift. Yeah.

00:10:29
Speaker 3: Okay, see the smoke. That must be your grandfather. That's your grandfather. Okay he smoked right, Like who didn't have a grandfather that smoked?

00:10:34
Speaker 2: And if you're watching on Peacock, there's Tyler with Winnie And that's not a great angle for Winnie, but there she is.

00:10:42
Speaker 3: She's excited.

00:10:42
Speaker 2: Now she's going to see herself on TV and go crazy crazy. You can hear her marking in the back.

00:10:50
Speaker 4: Yes, Dodd, are you going into this with a questionable no?

00:10:53
Speaker 8: Hour?

00:10:53
Speaker 4: You all in on, like, I'm going to take what this person says for real.

00:10:57
Speaker 2: I promise that I'm going in with open mind. I promise.

00:11:01
Speaker 3: I sense tension here with is it maybe with the dog? Is it with a family members?

00:11:06
Speaker 7: Your dog bark?

00:11:07
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm getting like there's a dog wag or tail?

00:11:11
Speaker 7: Get this feeling.

00:11:12
Speaker 2: I still love the pink panther that scene does your dog bite? And then all of a sudden, you know, Peter sellers cats the dog and the dog bites him and he goes, I thought you said your dog does not bite. And the guy behind the counter goes, that is not my dog. AnyWho any who worried.

00:11:33
Speaker 6: About tomorrow night?

00:11:34
Speaker 7: Are you?

00:11:34
Speaker 6: Yeah? Because I think you believe a little too much.

00:11:38
Speaker 2: Do you think I'm gullible? No, not gullible.

00:11:41
Speaker 6: That's different. I think you If you said do you believe or not believe in psychics, I think you lean towards that you would believe in them occasionally.

00:11:50
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't.

00:11:52
Speaker 6: And I'm talking about not that random dude on the street, just like I think you would lean towards it.

00:11:57
Speaker 2: I did sit down for a tarot card reading and I didn't. It didn't last because she said to me, I see evil and I was like, I don't want to hear it. No, I'm like I don't know what when it's going on, you know. And and there were a group of people, there was people, everybody's getting there reading done, and I didn't want to do it. And then all of a sudden I sat down and it was like, any what's going on here? So I cut short that tarot card reading? Yes, Toney, what are you.

00:12:31
Speaker 7: Supposed to do with them?

00:12:32
Speaker 4: That you're not going to make it home alive just forever? You're going to stay in the office there with.

00:12:35
Speaker 2: This like, yeah, I don't know how deep she's gonna get but we had to send pictures of the dog and the cat and then she's going to do a reading.

00:12:42
Speaker 3: Since evil, I'm getting the name. Yeah, does Warby mean anything to you?

00:12:46
Speaker 2: Evil? Canievil, I'm getting the name Warby, war Morby, Norby, Dorby Norby.

00:12:51
Speaker 1: Does that mean anything?

00:12:54
Speaker 6: When you're in there tomorrow night? You got thirty minutes? If you got a couple of minutes at the end, ask her if she likes the Panthers the rams.

00:13:00
Speaker 7: Get that would help.

00:13:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know if anybody's gone through this. Uh, but yeah, I got it's an hour long. And I said to my daughter, I said, I'm not sitting there for an hour. I'm gonna give you.

00:13:14
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take thirty and then you take thirty and that's it.

00:13:18
Speaker 2: Yes.

00:13:18
Speaker 4: So to Paulice's point, does a psyche have selective abilities? Why can't like they tell you? How do they not play the roulette wheels? I know, I don't know, they know the cards, they know what's coming.

00:13:26
Speaker 2: Okay, Why doesn't this O's pearlman play the stock market and become a billionaire and then he doesn't have to go into a football practice and read people's minds because it's fraudulent. I don't know there's something going on with him, Like I watched they. Anytime I go on Facebook and I see one of those clips, I click on O's Pearlman.

00:13:47
Speaker 4: Pick the powerball numbers. Then why don't they do every time you can win power ball? You see the future, you know things you know, select things you know, like the name of someone's grandmother that died.

00:13:57
Speaker 7: That's talking to them from the dead. Rumhn.

00:14:00
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm reading a couple of articles where they discuss in seriousness, like popular science about psychics, and they say most psychics were somewhat reputable air quotes. They say they can't predict like the weather and the future and sporting events, but more so, they connect with the person they're talking to and can read into them. And it's not like I can tell you what the stock market's going to do next week.

00:14:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean once again, it was a Christmas gift, and I don't know if I reacted in the way I should have because I was like, I saw this, it was like a card, and I went, huh.

00:14:34
Speaker 7: That's not a good stat to make for gift.

00:14:36
Speaker 2: Huh huh. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, and then I could bond with my daughter and then her cat and the cat and the dog get along with each other, and yeah yeah, it'd be like who is Wilson?

00:14:54
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, a great idea.

00:14:57
Speaker 5: Yes, Martamon, Yeah, the person because they gave it to you. Oh, Dad's gonna love this, and you just don't have the reaction that they.

00:15:04
Speaker 2: I know, I should have. I should have. They should have known to not give me. I'm psychotic. All right, take a break. Jesse Palmer, as Todd likes to say, Oh the dreamy Jesse Palmer from the Bachelor and Bachelorette.

00:15:21
Speaker 7: Yes, my final rose.

00:15:27
Speaker 2: I predicted, by the way, wait in advance and the rose he gives you the rose. You don't give him a rose.

00:15:33
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna wait for that. I'm agressive. I'm gonna give him my rose.

00:15:36
Speaker 9: All right.

00:15:36
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00:15:45
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00:16:26
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00:17:09
Speaker 7: Not a lot?

00:17:09
Speaker 9: Because I'm a sweater.

00:17:11
Speaker 7: I mean that.

00:17:12
Speaker 11: I mean two handoffs into the game, it wouldn't matter.

00:17:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the national anthem, you know you're up there doing you know, patent goes and all those things. You didn't padt and goal.

00:17:22
Speaker 11: You have the helmet on national anthem. The camera was not on me. I would try to stand as close to the head coach as I could, or or the star just to try to get into three shot, but generally that was not I was.

00:17:37
Speaker 9: Not in focus for that.

00:17:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I could see the vanity there. Who does it? Paulie Sean McVay, Sean McVay. Yeah, but he's a coach, so coaches. I mean, Matt Lafleur, let's be honest. I mean those dudes are the eyebrot probably getting their eyebrows waxed.

00:17:58
Speaker 11: You listen from a guy that used to do it. I mean I made some mistakes down in Gainesville, Florida by putting hair product in before a game. Like the worst thing ever to be dropping back on third and fifteen against an elite SEC pass rush and you have palm made in your eye as you're trying to figure out is the state, what's the safety doing?

00:18:19
Speaker 7: What happens?

00:18:20
Speaker 11: Where am I looking spurriers yelling atch you over on the sideline, Like I ran into that problem a few times, so I learned my lesson. I think by the time I got to New York there was no more hair product before games.

00:18:30
Speaker 2: If I would have told you before the season started Alabama or Georgia was not going to be in Ohio State's not going to be advancing in Alabama as well. Ohio State, Georgia and Alabama wouldn't be in the final four, you would have said, what.

00:18:47
Speaker 11: It's what's happening now in college football? I think this is the first time in the college football playoff era that those teams you just mentioned Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, and Clemson and not one of them are in the playoff. And I got to say, you know, I just from a fan standpoint, I kind of like the new blood thing. I know, ni L and the portal that's changed everything, and this is the new normal moving forward. But I think Indiana is a great example, and obviously Ole Miss Miami. These are all great examples of programs that can completely flip very very quickly. Rosters change on a dime, and teams get competitive really really fast. And I think you're seeing a great example of that in this year's playoff.

00:19:36
Speaker 2: But do you think this is the norm or this an aberration.

00:19:41
Speaker 11: I think it's the norm moving forward. I still think the SEC is the best conference in college football top to bottom. I think it's it's still the best top to bottom, but not necessarily national championship every single year like we were used to for all those years. Teams no longer can stockpile talent and five star recruits the way they used to at Georgia and Alabama and LSU and some of these programs. Today, if you're not on the field early in your career, you're out, You're in the portal, and you're getting paid more money to go play somewhere else. And so there's just more there's more discrepancy, there's more parody. From a roster standpoint. Teams just simply aren't as deep anymore. And I mean at the start of the year, if you'd said to me, hey, Indiana is going to be at out Indian is going to be at Alabama and the Rose Bowl, I would have been like, Okay, I mean I could see that if you'd said it would be thirty five to three or whatever, it was I would have said, WHOA, that that seems a bit aggressive, But there's such a there's just such a well coached team with so much talent, and this has been This has definitely been eye opening. I think for a lot of fans watching this, all.

00:20:47
Speaker 2: Right, handicap old miss in Miami because I'm I misjudged Miami. I didn't think they could be as physical as they were. That stood out. It was, it was glaring, and I just never thought that I would see that.

00:21:01
Speaker 9: I'm with you on that.

00:21:03
Speaker 11: I think Miami could win the whole thing based on that physicality you're talking about. I think in this era of college football, which with so much tempo and air raid and everybody's going fast and spreading the ball around, I still think games are won and lost in the trenches. And the way Miami's playing right now, especially in the playoff, that's where they're dominating people. I mean, that d line right now is ruthless. People can't block ruben Bane, people can't block Messicor They've got twelve sacks in two playoff games. And then offensively, they're running the football with Mark Fletcher, a big, physical back who's going to play in the NFL. They got an outstanding offensive line. They're just staying on the field and they're running it down people's throats. Ole Miss is supremely talented, no question, and Trinidad chamb was to me, especially after that Georgia game. You know, he's he's remarkable and we called it their first playoff game against Tulane. They've got so many playmakers and that they don't have a ton of weaknesses, and they can run the ball too, But that physicality is going to get put to the test, and ole Miss better be able to run the ball with Key one Lacey against Miami and avoid third and longs, otherwise it could be a really long day for Trinidad Chambliss.

00:22:06
Speaker 2: What did Oregon learn from the first matchup with Indiana?

00:22:10
Speaker 11: They got to be able to run the ball. I think that's where they got into trouble that first time, and that's ultimately really the identity of Oregon's offense. I know that Dante mor gets a lot of credit and credit and a lot of the shine, and people are talking about him potentially being the first pick in next year's NFL draft if he decides to come out. But when you watch Oregon play it still comes down to their ability to be physical and run the football. Danie Lanning has built that offensive line. They look like an NFL low line. They're really really big. That was a big question mark coming into the year. They had replaced four starters. They went to the portal and they brought in some big NFL bodies and they've got a deep stable of bats that are also very, very big. You'll see four or five different guys playing this game against the Indiana. The problem in the first game is they weren't able to run it successfully and it got them in trouble. Indiana is excellent stopping the run on defense and on third down. They've got a very exotic pressure package get that gives people fits, and they were living in Oregon's backfield in those situations. If Oregon can't run the ball more effectively, I don't think Oregon can beat Indiana.

00:23:14
Speaker 2: Talking to Jesse Palmer, ESPN college football analyst and of course the Bachelor and Bachelorette host, and he pairs with Kirk Cousins for a Great Clips commercial. Great Clips dot Com slash Football now through January sixteenth, claim a haircut coupon nine to ninety nine there. How was it working with Kirk Cousins.

00:23:36
Speaker 9: It was amazing.

00:23:38
Speaker 11: We shared a lot of laughs in the in the chair getting our haircuts, and we were talking about Demanding Passing Academy. Back in the day he was when he was at Michigan State playing. He was there and I was there as a counselor at the camp. I used to work the camp for a couple of years, and so kind of getting to know him there. We're catching up since then. And then we had this really interesting deep conversation about the future of.

00:24:03
Speaker 9: Pass rush in football.

00:24:05
Speaker 11: Kirk wanted to talk about where he sees the future in that going and the different decoordinators that that he finds really hard to game plan for.

00:24:14
Speaker 9: We had a very good x's and O session during our our great clip shoot.

00:24:18
Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, so what's he saying? What is the future of the pass rush?

00:24:22
Speaker 9: It's the exotic radar.

00:24:23
Speaker 11: Look, it's the one where everybody lines up and you don't.

00:24:26
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, you just gave us a new term, the exotic radar. Look.

00:24:32
Speaker 11: Well, the d I mean a lot of people know what radar is like. The radar is like the Ravens used to do radar when Ray Lewis was there and those guys, and it was like Rex Ryan and Marvin Lewis. He had no idea who was who was blitzaying, who was in a three point stance. Guys were dropping out, guys were rushing, and you almost had to guess on offense. You just weren't weren't sure what happened. Oddly enough, my rookie season, probably the worst game I've ever played in my life. It was the fourth game of the preseason. Again, that exact defense from the Ravens, and I had no idea where the pressure was coming from. I got sacked, fumbled, Everything was going wrong. That defense that a lot of people are doing. Now we think that's going to be We both think that's going to be the future. Not just in the NFL, but you're going to start seeing I think more and more college programs.

00:25:16
Speaker 2: To Okay, well, what's that feeling like? Okay, you go to the line of scrimmage and you have you're supposed to show confidence and composure and poise, and you have no idea what's going on.

00:25:28
Speaker 9: No.

00:25:29
Speaker 11: I remember literally going to the line of scrimmage every single time I dropped.

00:25:33
Speaker 9: Back to pass.

00:25:34
Speaker 11: I had no idea if I was protected or not, not saying I wasn't sure if the guys upfront could block their man. I knew they could do that. What I didn't know though, was Hey, if the Sam linebacker blitzes, do I have to hit this fullback in the flat or can I hold on to it because he's going to get picked up and I can try to find a receiver on a fifteen yard in route. And you know, usually when you know the game plan and you understand defense very well, you might have one or two snaps like that, a game where you're just not sure what's about to happen. I literally dropped back twenty times ululus of what was happening. And Yeah, I need just to say that was That was a game I'll never forget.

00:26:18
Speaker 9: That was. That was unique.

00:26:19
Speaker 2: And it was a preseason game. It's not even a regular season game. But there coming after you.

00:26:25
Speaker 11: We just got done playing Tom Koflin and Jacksonville the week before and they just played vanilla defense the entire game. They played Cover three, Amanda Man and Cover two and I lit it up.

00:26:34
Speaker 9: I had this big day and I remember throwing it all over the place.

00:26:37
Speaker 11: I called my dad after that game and I said, Dad, I don't think the NFL is that hard, really don't like I think the SEC was harder than playing defenses.

00:26:46
Speaker 9: It's so easy.

00:26:47
Speaker 7: They just line up.

00:26:48
Speaker 11: Very next week a preseason game, it was exotic radar blitz Fest, and I had zero clue. I called my dad after that game and I took everything back everything.

00:27:02
Speaker 2: I mentioned this on the show yesterday. Indiana is a great story, and Fernando Mendoza is by proxy a great story as well. I just don't know if we're going to get caught up. I don't know how good he is. I know he's going to be the number one pick, but like Dante Moore, somebody's going to be the second quarterback drafted. And I'm not sure if these are great prospects, good potential to be very good. So can you handicap the these two quarterbacks?

00:27:31
Speaker 11: Well, it's not a sure thing. I would agree with that. I'm trying to think back in the nineteen years I've been covering college football. I can probably count on one hand how many guys I knew coming out I thought were going to be good. Like I remember I knew Andrew Luck was going to be good I knew that. I knew Trevor Lawrence.

00:27:52
Speaker 9: Was going to be good. I felt good about that.

00:27:55
Speaker 11: Cam, yep, Cam, I just you knew he was just just just from a physical standpoint, in a statute standpoint, he was going to be a problem. I think with Fernando, like, I'm a big fan of his, and it's more I think more because of the cerebral and just how he processes things. I know he's not an elite athlete. His mobility has gotten better throughout his career. He makes really really good decisions and he stepped up. He's had some he's had some Heisman moments. He's had some moments against good defenses this year where he's really he's really made big plays in big moments. You know, Dante Moore, this is really the only year you've ever seen Dante Moore play. He had five starts at UCLA as a true freshman two years ago. He sat last year behind Dylan Gabriel watching and watching him at Oregon, and then this year you've gotten to watch him. He's a very natural passer. There's a lot you like there. But yeah, it's going to be interesting. I mean, listen, the Raiders are sitting right now at number one, and you've got brock Bauers on offense, Ashton Gente. You know, whichever those two guys. If that's where they end up, you know it's a porous offensive line. There's a lot of work there to be done. It'll be interest saying. We'll overanalyze this to death over the next several months before the draft. But I think they're both really good prospects. I think ty Simpson's also a really good prospect. But I don't think there is a sure fire first overall pick necessarily in terms of one of those guys who's astronomically better than the other.

00:29:18
Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you, good luck man, Good luck with the two year old there and the campaign.

00:29:25
Speaker 9: You appreciate it, brother, We'll see it.

00:29:27
Speaker 2: Jesse Palmer, all right, bachelor, bachelorette and uh not afraid to put a little palmaid in his hair before a football game? Who isn't afraid to put a little palm aid in their You see some of those guys when they come out on the field, or basketball players when they come out. Spend a little extra time before you get out there. Yes, Tom, I would love the opportunity to be able to do that and that.

00:29:49
Speaker 7: As a choice.

00:29:51
Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't to be able to have enough hair to put some product in it?

00:29:55
Speaker 7: Why not?

00:29:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I got a hair partner now, and you said you weren't interested.

00:29:59
Speaker 7: That's true. I gotta loosen up and be a little more ambitious.

00:30:03
Speaker 2: About Paulie said that he'd be willing to try it sprinkle the infield.

00:30:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty jump on board too. I'm trying to keep what I got, Elliott.

00:30:13
Speaker 2: Is there are there concerns that Oh, I.

00:30:16
Speaker 3: Mean, just like every mail, it's it starts going back up a little bit at certain corners.

00:30:22
Speaker 8: Yeah.

00:30:22
Speaker 3: I'm trying to hold onto all of this.

00:30:24
Speaker 7: Yeah.

00:30:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got to get preventative care, that's what they call it. Get of it.

00:30:29
Speaker 2: Be proactive, Yeah, be proactive. Yes, paul you just got.

00:30:32
Speaker 6: To hope for a slow retreat.

00:30:33
Speaker 9: See.

00:30:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't matter when it starts, because mine started like thirty one, but it was a progressive slow retreat.

00:30:40
Speaker 2: Sue in California, Good morning, Sue. What's on your mind today?

00:30:45
Speaker 12: Good morning Dan?

00:30:45
Speaker 2: How you doing great?

00:30:48
Speaker 12: Okay, I just have a comment for you. So I was listening to the episode my husband watching you every day loved all you guys, and so I'm a you know, a fan by proxy. But you were talking about the pet psychic and we have had that done and it's amazing. So I just wanted to say, what cool gift that your daughter gave you. She's obviously very highly evolved, forward thinking and has a lot of love for your connection with Winnie. And so just like each of you have been born with certain natural talents and inclinations, like, you know, Todd's good at you know, academics, and Seatan's really interested in soccer, and Paul's really good at stats, and marvin's's a beautiful human being. You all have these talents that you're born with, and as long as you can be open to that, you know, being a pet psychic being able to communicate with people and pets on a level that you're not aware of, doesn't you shouldn't discount it like.

00:31:45
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not I'm open minded. It's Todd who is negative Nelly here? But what am I going to learn about my dog in this zoom call with the psychic tomorrow?

00:31:56
Speaker 12: Well, so she is going to start talking, but then she'll ask you you should have three or four things ready that you might like to know about Winnie, Like she'll tell you what she sees and what Winnie is communicating with her, But then are there things you want to know, like what was Winnie's beginnings, like you know, what was her family? Like did she have any like fears or anxieties or you know what? You know, what kind of life did she have before she came to you, and what kind of things in her are maybe that resonate really well with you. And maybe there's certain things in your family that you guys do that she doesn't like. Or like you said, she gets along well with your daughter's main coom cat. You know, was she with cats you know, earlier in her life or what's that about?

00:32:42
Speaker 2: Right? Well, once again, I'm open minded by the way, they found Winnie and the litter in a garbage dump in Tennessee. So they and the rescue that we went through they were there wonderful, but they found the litter, didn't find her, but they found the litter and then her and one of her brothers were adopted on the same day that I picked up Winning. So yeah, I'm interested in it. I'm not going into it going all right, this is silly like I hope that there is some connection there and I can learn more about winning. Still learning about winning. And the main coon cat. You know, Kevin's only like seven months old.

00:33:27
Speaker 6: The cat's name is Kevin.

00:33:28
Speaker 2: Yes.

00:33:28
Speaker 6: I love human names for animals. Yeah, like Steve the dog.

00:33:32
Speaker 2: Yeah. Molly said, hey, I want to get a Maine coon and I already got the name. It's Kevin. I know, of course it's Kevin. So we got this and these Maine coon cats. He's seven or eight months old. He's he's huge, really huge, like huge, No man, he looks like he is Mufasa, Like he's a badass. And he he took over the house. He beats up Whinnie, takes on Winny one on one, and you know, lives to tell about him. Okay, Last golfer phone calls? What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? Todd has tomorrow's headlines off tonight's game.

00:34:12
Speaker 7: Let's have some fun.

00:34:13
Speaker 1: All of that coming up after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Last call for phone calls.

00:34:28
Speaker 2: What we learn? What's in store tomorrow. Also This Day in Sports History. Travis kelce on the New Heights podcast on whether or not he's going to be coming back to the Kansas City Chiefs and what would be the deciding factor.

00:34:45
Speaker 8: If my body can can heal up and rest up and I can, I can feel confident that I can go out there and give it another eighteen twenty twenty one week run. I think I would do it in a heartbeat. I think right now is just finding that a and seeing how the body feels after this game and kind of win it all settles down.

00:35:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the first question I would have if I'm Travis Kelcey is not can my body hold up? It's how is Patrick Mahomes's body? Because is he going to be able to be ready for the start of the regular season, and if not, it might not be a playoff season. Do you want to come back? Nobody wants to go out in the way that Travis Kelsey went out or these other players. You don't make the playoffs, or you lose in the playoffs, you lose in a super Bowl. Even those who win a Super Bowl, what's their reaction? And I'd like to come back again? You don't go yep. Now I'm ready to retire only Elway, But Elway really didn't have a choice. He needed to the odds for the number one pick overall. According to DraftKings, it is Fernando Mendoza, then it's Dante More, Ruben Bain Junior, third, Rvel Reese, and Trinidad Shambliss. Shambliss is petitioning the NCAA to be able to come back for another year at Old Miss. What I'm told is he's probably going to be granted in extra year to come back to Old Miss, but they're going to drag it out a little bit so other players don't try to use this loophole, whatever the loophole is. But Trinidad Shambless is right now one two so fifth best best odds to be the number one overall pick. That might be your third quarterback off the board if he does come out. And if you're Ty Simpson at Alabama and you're ready to go into the draft, you may get bumped down to the fourth quarterback. Taken all right? Uh. Todd has headlines for from tonight's game for tomorrow, A.

00:36:52
Speaker 4: Couple of possibilities. If Miami wins yes, they can another one. If Miami wins, super Mario is in crystal all. If Miami losers, Carson Drek or rock them like a hurricane. If Miami losers, if Mississippi wins, layne Who or the Golden Goose for their head coach.

00:37:11
Speaker 7: If Mississippi wins, we also say.

00:37:13
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh oh, we're done.

00:37:15
Speaker 3: That's it.

00:37:19
Speaker 4: If Mississippi winds sham Bliss, sham Bliss. And if Misissippi wins, wis moved to let him coach in semis And then if Mississippi swing an old miss. If Mississippi loses, rebels without clause and rebel smell. If Mississippi loses clause, It's not a stand up bag. It's just headlines. It's hard to make it too hilarious.

00:37:44
Speaker 1: You know.

00:37:44
Speaker 2: But when you when you give it to me and then you give me the over annunciation as if if you slow it down and enunciate, then I'm gonna understand it better.

00:37:53
Speaker 4: That's like when I was trying to do the coming out of side cursing out of the blue because I was losing the audience.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: Okay, this was brought up to me yesterday. Dylan, who does stand up in New York occasionally in Manhattan. Is maybe going to do stand up at some place in San Francisco during that Super Week in February. Dylan asked, would you be interested in doing stand up as well on the same night that he does it?

00:38:21
Speaker 3: Yes, Seaton, Uh, maybe we haven't gotten this far. But who would be opening and who would be the headliner? Air quotes, Oh, I'm sure Dylan would be fine to open. Oh, dear putting more pressure? Okay, who is it better for whom? Is it better to go first and then last?

00:38:38
Speaker 2: Well, if our fans are there, then I would say Todd would go south.

00:38:42
Speaker 3: He should close that. Yes, if it's a fan event, touch.

00:38:45
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, But I don't know if you're interested in that, Todd.

00:38:49
Speaker 4: It's something I will think about. You know how much I love being put on the spot. Waft to make a decisionation.

00:38:53
Speaker 2: Okay, Dylan is going to do stand up, I believe, somewhere in San Francisco. And he did say, Hey, I don't want to be the stand up guy. I know Todd does this. Does Todd want to be on the bill with me?

00:39:05
Speaker 4: You should not give out a second thought if I was not part of that. I am all for rooting for Dylan to do a great job. Ki, is there a competition there or anything else?

00:39:12
Speaker 1: Much?

00:39:12
Speaker 6: To stand up Dan? I have my Todd translator here. Handily, it means absolutely not. Since I would think about that. That's a hard no.

00:39:19
Speaker 3: That is a hard I mean, that's.

00:39:21
Speaker 2: A definite no. This day in sports history.

00:39:24
Speaker 3: Let's see.

00:39:24
Speaker 6: I just got a couple for you as soon as this closes out. The first American Bowling Tournament was held in this city in nineteen oh one Chicago, Illinois.

00:39:33
Speaker 7: A hot been a.

00:39:34
Speaker 6: Bowling NCAA rule in New York City with nineteen sixty the unlimited substitution rule for college football. I used to have limited substitutions. I didn't even know that. And Michael Jordan in nineteen ninety three of the Bulls became the eighteenth player in NBA history to reach twenty thousand points.

00:39:52
Speaker 2: On this date in two thousand Music City Miracle, I missed it. I'm in the basement. I'm watching and my wife is like, come on dinner, and you know I'm not home. That often got the kids up there, and you know the game is going to end all they got. You know, there's gonna be a kickoff, it's gonna be over, go upstairs, and then all of a sudden find out that I missed the Music City miracle.

00:40:18
Speaker 5: Yes, Marv, sad part is that's only the fifth worst thing that's ever happened to the Bills.

00:40:24
Speaker 2: Dang, let's go around the room. What we learn on the program?

00:40:29
Speaker 4: Todd, Chris and Syracuse likes all miss tonight, especially if Chambliss gets rid of the ball quickly to count that Miami defense.

00:40:35
Speaker 2: Seaton, What did you learn Dylan is doing stand up? Marvin?

00:40:39
Speaker 7: We need a pie guy?

00:40:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got got some bets to uh bay Paulie, I predict you have a weird week ahead. I got my psychic tomorrow with my dog, Todd. What did I learn?

00:40:52
Speaker 4: College football has made such a mess of things they justly need Congress to step in and clean things up.

00:40:56
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. It's a meet Friday tomorrow. Our pleasure to serve you for Fritzie, Seat and Marv paul yours truly have a great day. Everybody,

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