Hour 2 - Dominique Foxworth Identifies the Most Super Bowl Ready Teams

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ESPN's Domonique Foxworth calls the Packers and Rams the only two teams that truly look "Super Bowl ready," and sees the Chiefs' issues stemming from costly drops and a fading defense. Dan reacts to some interesting MLB Hall of Fame news and examines what it means to the legacies of Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens.

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00:00:00
Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan EDGs Dan Patrick Show. Glad to have you on board. Starting lineup, Fritzy Seat and Mark Pauley. Yours truly in the back room guys as well. Stat of the Day has always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of this program. Good morning, if you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app. We say good morning to our radio affiliates including iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio, and you can see us on NBC Sports Network as well. Philip Rivers is on the practice squad. That doesn't mean he's on the roster, and that is the big difference here with the Hall of Fame. Once he's on an active roster, then we turn the clock ahead to five more years for Philip Rivers. He's a semi finalist for the Hall of Fame Dominic Foxworth former defensive back. He is on loan from the Mothership. In a little bit, we'll talk to him about moving forward with Philip Rivers and we'll look at his Hall of Fame resume. Is he helping herting and also who's more of a Hall of Famer Matt Ryan or Philip Rivers question that old question age seven to seven three DP show email address, DPA, Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a TP show. Paul Finebaum of the Mothership will join us a little bit later on as well. Notre Dame and the ACC and the Big Twelve. Everybody jab in one another here, athletic director at Notre Dame, the commissioner in Big Twelve, commissioner of the ACC. I'm fine with this. It's content and I don't have a dog in the fight. But it's been interesting to hear people's thoughts on this and not holding back of the dislike of Notre Dame by a lot of media members. So much for being unbiased or and martial with this. You can't let that cloud your judgment here with this, I mean you can. You have to be honest if you take out the names and just be honest with the situation, and then you might have a different opinion of that. The other stuff, Notre Dame thinking they're bigger than everybody else, or all of those things, they're all valid. But the College Football Playoff Committee saying there is a provision now and this is the version of an automatic qualifier. So Notre Dame got what other conferences, you know, being an automatic qualifier that if they're in the top twelve then they will be in the college football playoffs next year. Here's something to keep an eye on. And it's been kind of quiet here the NCAA slow march towards expanding march madness. Okay, the NCBA president Charlie Baker made it clear this week a decision has to come by this April. So there's a proposal that will take it from sixty eight to as many as seventy six and that would start the following season. I don't have any information on this. I'm following it as you might be. But is there going to be expansion? Yes, how many I don't know and when I don't know, But there will be expansion. And what they're going to do is they're probably going to beef up these so called play in games first four and you're gonna have more games on Tuesday and Wednesday, and then you get into the tournament on Thursday. I don't know why they sort of say you're in the tournament, but you're not in the tournament. Just make it. This is the first round. It's okay, you know you're in the tournament kind of, but you got to win this game and then you get in. Okay, they're playing games. Okay. I think they're going to get rid of the playing games, or at least that label, and just make it these are first round games, yes, Martin.

00:03:46
Speaker 2: But if they keep continuing with like the first four, if you win your conference, you do not have to play in that the first force for those bubble teams that just barely got into the tournament. Yeah, you shouldn't have to go and play the first four. Bubble team you won the conference tournament should be able to play on Thursday and Friday.

00:04:03
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel bad for those teams because you're kind of it's like you're invited to a party, but you have to stay outside. You know, you get to look in the window and we'll get your beer. Oh you want hot dog, we'll bring it out. Beat it can't come in, can't come in. Didn't a Rod have that quote when I said, if I went to your house, you know, would I be able to find you? Know? Where would I find your MVP or whatever? And he goes, well, I wouldn't let you in. You'd have to stay on the porch, yes he said, and I'm like, oh, okay, still a little frosty at me. By the way, something really quiet that happened, and that was the Barry Bonds not getting into the Hall of Fame. Roger Clement's not getting into the Hall of Fame, but Jeff Kent got into the Hall of Fame, Barry Bonds teammate. This is see, this is where it gets tricky. Jeff Kent and his numbers are great. I have no problem with him being a Hall of Famer. Okay, no problem. He benefited from Barry Bonds being in the lineup, batting behind him or in front of him. So I'm not saying that, you know, there's any cloud of controversy steroids with Jeff kat but he does benefit from Barry Bonds being in the lineup. And it's you know, that's where it gets tricky, where you're trying to assess careers individually in a team sport. And I know Alex Rodriguez came out and said, well, hey, if you're not going to have me, and then why do you have Bud Seely again, he was the commissioner when all the steroid stuff happened. I know for a fact, And I had private conversations with Bud Ceely and he said, damn, there's nothing I can do against the players Union now the Baseball Players Association. That union is one of the strongest unions, or at least it was with Donald fear in America. And he said, I can't. I can't do anything with the testing. And then he decided to test in the minor leagues. So it's not like he said I'm turning a blind eye to this. I know for a fact having a conversation with him where he said there's nothing I can do. That's why he went to the minor leagues and he started testing there as almost a preemptive strike. But Alex Rodriguez shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. And if you say, well, the commissioner shouldn't be in, Okay you don't want put him in, I don't care. But that doesn't mean ayrod deserves to be in. But I do know for a fact the commissioner said his hands were tied and he couldn't do anything about that in the major leagues. I know that for a fact. But that's why he went to the minor leagues. So a Rod trying his campaign trail the fact that he's in baseball. He should be thankful that Fox hired him to be in baseball, given everything that he did to the sport, said about the sport and the commission and getting suspended. But yeah, the Hall of Fame, you know, it's done with bonds and clements. But Jeff Kent got in. I was hoping Don Mattingly would get in and maybe maybe one of these days. But Jeff Kent got into the Hall of Fame. And this was that Veterans Committee, I believe, and I think you had to have a maximum or there a certain minimum number of votes might have been ten, maybe I don't know the exact number. But Jeff Kent quietly going into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Yeah, pauling quietly is the right word. Jeff Kent was a really good ballplayer for six or seven years, five All Star appearances. The MVP helps a ton, but he's a two ninety hitter, three seventy seven home runs in seventeen years. He feels like more first ballot Hall of very good that we talked about. But is this I'm answer my question. The byproduct of the stereoid era. Adrian Beltray gets in, Jeff Kent gets in, Harold Bains gets in. They have to put some people in. Yeah, and those guys were borderline. But you don't have to put people in. There's no minimum like the you know, the Pro Football Hall of Fame, they have minimums. Baseball. I remember Bruce Souter got in one year. He was the only guy who got in. I like that. It's difficult, but I'm glad that I don't vote on anything like this. I mean, I grind over the Heisman. I couldn't imagine, like this is the ultimate. This is your life, the rest of your life. You're a Hall of Fame. That guy's a Hall of Famer. He gets to go to the ceremony each year. Having that in your hands when you're voting on this, now, that's heavy lifting, yes, Marva.

00:08:40
Speaker 2: And the thing about the MVP in Major League Baseball is it means less as far as getting into the Hall of Fame than any other sport. Don Matteleie Dale, Murphy, Wan Gonzalez. I just named it three MVP awards. Two of those guys have two MVP awards and not even sniffing the Hall of Fame.

00:08:57
Speaker 1: Yeah. If this is football, you got two, he's your Hall of Famer.

00:09:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, I don't get not anti Jeff Kent, but Jeff Kent. Five All Stars, one MVP. Go back to again. We talked about Steve Garby two different teams. Ten All Star appearances, ten, ten of twelve for inst number one for the MVP one time and top five twice. Yeah, and that doesn't make any sense a clear MVP.

00:09:23
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:09:24
Speaker 1: And he wasn't even on the ballot there. And once again, I don't know the intricacies the minutia involved in this and who's voting and how many are voting and how do you get on that ballot? But yeah, Jeff Kent quietly going into the Baseball Hall of Fame. All right, poll question for hour two, seatan, what are we going to go with? I got a couple here from Paul. Retired athlete you most want to see comeback and play for a full health, obviously prime condition. His options here are Bojacks and Michael Jordan, Dwight Gooden, or Wayne Gretzky. I'd rather have Wayne just read the countries in the World Cup draw. That was a true contest right there. I don't know that we saw the great one there either. Yeah, okay, that that whole ceremony was drawn out. It was like an hour too long. And I'm falling asleep watching it, like okay, And then Reno gets up there and he's gonna watch the World Cup draw. I did watch some of it. That's amazing. Yeah. Yes, my my future son in law is a big soccer guy. Yeah, well right now he's the future son in law. I don't know, maybe it doesn't last. I don't know. I did catch him watching the Premier League over the weekend. Yes, sounds like you got a good one there. I know. I walked into a room at my house and I go, what are you doing? He goes watching soccer? I go okay, he goes, you don't want to watch? I go, no, tell me how it ends. But uh yeah, when Weno had Curasol. Now, granted, I think if you see Curasal, you're probably gonna go Kura Cowie or something like that, you know, and that's not a given. But I gotta have Wayne being, you know, in a in a room where we go over all the name, these are the names they're gonna have Wayne all of them. Well, he wasn't doing the whole thing. I would just say, hey, here's here's a couple of tricky ones as are by John Canada, give him Canada, Yeah, Sri Lanka, Yes.

00:11:41
Speaker 3: Currasau and I don't know if I've got it right. It's probably the toughest to pronounce on the fly because it's a very confusing looking word. There's c's where s's should be.

00:11:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where baseball players are, don't we have a couple of currousel great?

00:11:56
Speaker 5: Yeah?

00:11:57
Speaker 1: Is that Andrew Jones from Kurrousel. I have to get Mario the eyes and ears of the program. By the way, Mets fans in the building were sobbing yesterday. Edwin Diaz is going to the Dodgers. That's not fair. Yeah, Anthony and Mario who sit in the same room. Oh, they were weeping. Grown men, well not grown men, but men, and they were weeping. It's not fair that it's going to lead to a lockout and then we're gonna have a salary Cavin. Edwin Diaz joining the Dodgers, Yes.

00:12:34
Speaker 6: Marvin Andrew Jones from CURSEO.

00:12:36
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. It comes back to me occasionally in Caraco. Yeah, kuh yeah, Pully.

00:12:47
Speaker 3: Well, Wayne Gretzky, he wasn't going to class at age, you know, high school. He wasn't taking geography classes. He was scoring ninety eight goals in the junior league. I love that he doesn't ought to pronounce it.

00:12:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would think somebody would say, hey, guys, uh, let's go through the names here in case anybody's got you know, a couple of tricky ones here, right, there's a couple of tricky ones here. Way, Wayne, Wayne, a couple of tricky ones. I want to take a look at the Yes, I.

00:13:17
Speaker 6: Think it's fair to take a slap shot out.

00:13:18
Speaker 1: You gotta prepare.

00:13:19
Speaker 6: Someone's got to prepare.

00:13:20
Speaker 1: Who Uh, let me see Murphy and Georgia. Hi, Murph, what's on your mind today?

00:13:32
Speaker 7: How you're doing?

00:13:32
Speaker 8: Man?

00:13:32
Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning.

00:13:34
Speaker 5: I wanted to know what did this independent thing start with Notre Dame?

00:13:39
Speaker 1: And secondly, what do you get.

00:13:41
Speaker 9: From being in a Hall of Fame?

00:13:42
Speaker 5: Is there any compensation?

00:13:45
Speaker 1: Well, they do make money at signing events, but it's not like you get a bonus in your contract.

00:13:52
Speaker 4: Uh.

00:13:53
Speaker 1: Notre name has never been in a league. I don't think, Paully, do you have when they form their independence.

00:13:59
Speaker 9: Yeah.

00:14:00
Speaker 3: Notre Dame started playing football in eighteen eighty seven, and there were some like conferences ish in the early before the twenties, but since the nineteen twenties they've been independent.

00:14:10
Speaker 1: Any school can become independent if you want. BYU used to be independent, but you lose the structure, the support that you have scheduling financial stuff.

00:14:24
Speaker 4: You know.

00:14:24
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is the one school that can do this and has chosen to do this, you know. But once again, BYU used to be independent. Let me see one more caller in here, how about Jamie from Virginia Beach.

00:14:42
Speaker 8: Hi, jam Yeah, good morning, Dan, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I just I just want to go back and what you said earlier in the show about the Notre Dame story not going away rightfully, So it shouldn't go away. Those guys. Those guys are in the spot top twelve. I'm a Michigan guy. I can care less about another Dame. But more importantly is how the Alabama situation went away so quickly. I mean, just isn't the Alabama team of ten years ago, you know, five years ago where they would barely lose one game a season and Now they're losing three last two seasons, on the verge of missing a playoffs twice this year, and I don't think the committee was going to allow them to miss it this year regardless.

00:15:29
Speaker 1: Well, could you imagine Greg Sankee if Alabama got jumped and didn't make it, he'd be screaming two. That's why I said, you know, put it into your conference and how would you react? How would the Big twelve commissioner react if BYU got jumped by Miami in the rankings and didn't make the College Football Playoff? He'd be shouting from the mountaintops. He would not say, Hey, this is what we signed up for. So as much as there is a dislike, a hatred for Notre Dame, put your school in that situation and see how you would react the other stuff, the other stuff, go at it. I couldn't care less about you know, we're going to pull out of the ACC or the pettiness or you know the ACC was against us. I mean I sided with the ACC because the ACC has to protect Miami is a full fledged ACC member. Notre Dame is not, and I would be fighting for Miami over Notre Dame. Now, I don't know what was said. I think that's what Pete Levaca with the Athletic Director was hinting at, Like what was said in that three hour discussion from what I'm told, and I'm still trying to find that out. What exactly did the acc say about Notre Dame. That's what I'm curious about, because it feels like that's what Petelebaca was hinting at that, you know, the things they said about Notre Dame in that discussion and the fallout from that. All right, well, take a break. Is Philip Rivers a first Elean Hall of Famer? Is he a Hall of Famer? Is he hurting his Hall of Fame status by trying to play again? Dominique Foxworth from the Mothership will join us next here Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio w app Hey, It's Rob Parker and Calvin Washington from The Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio.

00:17:26
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00:17:53
Speaker 1: More phone calls coming up. Our good buddy Ross Tucker just sent out a tweet. The two teams were the best records in the NFL, the Patriots and Broncos, both being underdogs at home to teams with less than ten wins. This week, Patriots hosts the Bills, Broncos hosting the Packers. He is the host of The Dominic Foxworth Show. ESPN writer, commentator, former NFL defensive back Dominic Foxworth joining us on the program. We spent a little bit of time, maybe too much time, talking about Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers Hall of Famer, a semi finalist for the Hall of Fame this year, and then we brought in Matt Ryan as well. So if you had to choose between Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers Hall of Famer, who would you pick.

00:18:41
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's so hard to get into the Pro Football Hall of Ape. I think since it's only like thirteen guys, like since the nineties that have gotten in since like the early nineties at quarterback, that.

00:18:52
Speaker 1: Is, Okay, whose career would you want?

00:18:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's.

00:18:57
Speaker 11: You put me on a spot. So Matt Ryan obviously one MVP was all pro. Philip Rivers was probably better longer, but never wasn't all pro, but that might be a result of the people in his conference, and never won an MVP.

00:19:11
Speaker 4: I gotta be.

00:19:12
Speaker 11: Honest, just off.

00:19:14
Speaker 4: The top of my head, I think Philip Rivers.

00:19:16
Speaker 11: I think of Philip Rivers as a better quarterback, but I also know that the numbers don't really support that. There's a huge difference between the two of them. And also Matt Ryan's made it to a super Bowl and lost one. But I think ultimately I think we respect Philip rivers career more than we do Matt Ryan. So if you give me one, I think I'd rather have Matt Ryan. Ok excuse me, I'd rather have Philip Rivers. Matthew Stafford first ball and Hall of Famer. Nah, I mean not first ballot. I think he wins another one this year, then we're talking first ballot. I think obviously, this is a team sport, and as much as it sucks, you want the Hall of Fame to be an individual award as great as he's been, Like, his team's success just came kind of late. So I think one more he's probably first ballot, but with just one Super Bowl and like the end of his career really defining his career, I don't think he's first ballot.

00:20:00
Speaker 1: He might be MVP this year.

00:20:02
Speaker 11: Yeah, of course it's hardar you asked me a guy whose career is still going on, which I guess Philip rivers career still going on too, Matt Ryan, if you stop, if you stop Matt Ryan today, I'd say, not first ballot.

00:20:14
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be Matt Stafford, not first ballot.

00:20:16
Speaker 11: He wins the MVP this year, wins another Super Bowl, then of course first ballot.

00:20:20
Speaker 1: How does this work out for Philip Rivers and the colt.

00:20:23
Speaker 4: Poorly, I don't know.

00:20:26
Speaker 11: Like, as much as he's older than me, and as much as I would want older guys, I played against Philip Rivers a bunch in college back when Maryland was in acc and a bunch when I was in Denver and he was in San Diego. So like, obviously I'm rooting for the older guy to have success, But it's really fast and it's really hard. And his career didn't end because he was tired of playing football. His career ended because he was not producing. So I'm not sure what some time off, some rest is gonna do, but I don't imagine that it's going to go all that well. I think probably better off when Riley Leonard gets healthy or I don't know someone who's actually been playing for ball.

00:21:05
Speaker 4: I know he's been coaching, but it's so fast.

00:21:07
Speaker 11: It's so violent, and we see Aaron Rodgers who hasn't stopped playing, like obviously the threat of getting hit has changed the way that he plays. I'm assuming that Philip Rivers is a normal human being and he's gonna be a little skittich.

00:21:20
Speaker 1: Well, okay, explain that to me that you can see that Rogers he's different now because he's afraid of getting hit.

00:21:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in said he's afraid of getting hit.

00:21:29
Speaker 11: Makes it feel insulting, like he's a reasonable person and he can't move the way that he didn't normally move, Like, yeah, you're that willingness to hold onto the ball for half a second longer and have a two hundred and fifty pounds super athlete jump through your.

00:21:45
Speaker 4: Chin is it changes.

00:21:48
Speaker 11: It changes a lot when it hurts a little bit more and when you're not as explosive, and also when you don't feel like you're in contention in the way that you once were. So I think I'm not the only one who noticed it. Like we all see it. He's more quick to get rid of the ball. And the reason why I think he had good numbers last week is because the Ravens can't rush the passer. As soon as you get someone who can rust the passer, you'll see the Aaron Rodgers that we've seen most of this season return.

00:22:13
Speaker 1: Who's the one quarterback though that above everybody else was gonna stay in there and he was gonna take the hit. Man.

00:22:22
Speaker 11: I think like Young Drew Brees as a guy that got hit a bunch and was willing to stay in there.

00:22:29
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:22:30
Speaker 11: He And again this goes back to him in San Diego and earlier in his career. I think he later in his career with the shoulder injury or assuming the elbow injury and the age, his offense turned into quick pass stuff. But like that is something that stands out in my mind. Of course, Steve Young was a guy from growing up watching him and Brady is definitely that guy who was able to do that. He didn't do it nearly as much in Tampa, but was willing to stand in there and take those shots.

00:22:58
Speaker 1: Dang. I'm always amazed though, when we usually see the end result, we don't see that quarterback getting smashed. It's like, right before he's gonna get hit, and then we all did a complete touchdown, and you know, meanwhile he's getting a spatula in there, you know, peeling him off the aster turf.

00:23:16
Speaker 11: We don't appreciate how hard does it, even when we pointed out it's impossible. I think, and I played football, I don't think that it's ever hurt nearly as bad as that, and they just hop right up. Doesn't matter how big you're like, we see it over time. Cam Newton might be the most impressive looking physical person ever in life, even eventually his body broke down. Because you can only take so many of those.

00:23:42
Speaker 4: They hurt.

00:23:43
Speaker 11: And I know we've all seen the sports sciences. It's like the car crashes. All of us might have been in accidents of different level. Like just imagine that. Ten times a week you get into something like that. It's going to catch up to you eventually.

00:23:58
Speaker 1: The Chiefs the Dolphins have the same record. Does that bring it into reality of you know, we keep going, yeah they got fifteen, as long as you got fifteen there and their records shame as the Dolphins.

00:24:13
Speaker 11: It's funny because it feels like lazy analysis, but like fifteen's proven that we should respect him. But yeah, they've been the same team for the past two or three years with differing levels of defense, and we all thought we were extra smart when we were like, but look, it's gonna catch up to them, and it didn't catch up to them.

00:24:32
Speaker 4: It finally has caught up to him.

00:24:34
Speaker 11: Like the drop passes, Like, of course, these guys are professional football players. They're not gonna drop a lot of passes and they're going to have penalties. Like these things gonna happen. It just felt like in those situations it always went their way in the past. And then of course, if you're in a close game, that's when the value of a quarterback goes up. So this team survived a lot beating teams that were better than them because of good fortune, good coaching, and a great quarterback, and ultimately it caught up them.

00:25:00
Speaker 1: Talking to Dominic Foxworth, host of The Dominic Foxworth Show, ESPN writer and contributor, former NFL defenship back, who's a great team this year?

00:25:11
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think I would say the Packers and the Rams are the teams that I would look at and say, these are super Bowl caliber teams. Sometimes teams that don't look like super Bowl caliber teams end up winning the super Bowl. It happens probably a couple times a decade, two, three, four times a decade.

00:25:30
Speaker 4: That could certainly happen this year.

00:25:32
Speaker 11: No one in the AFC do I look at and say, oh, yeah, they're definitely. I'll show them and I can guarantee they'll be at least in the conference game, and it'll be a fluke if they don't make it. I feel like I would say that if the Packers or the Rams don't make it out of the.

00:25:46
Speaker 4: NFC, I'd be surprised.

00:25:48
Speaker 11: It'd be some sort of flucish streak that someone got hot and ripped off of Joe Flacco style run, and I would be surprised by it. But everybody else is so flawed in important ways.

00:25:58
Speaker 1: Does the NFL have a long field goal problem?

00:26:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, it hasn't gotten there.

00:26:04
Speaker 11: Yet for me, Like, I get the point that you're making, but I also feel like, combined with the change and the kickoff rules and the aggressiveness on fourth down, I think the incentive to kick a long field goal is still not really that overwhelming. Like I think right now we're kind of in a sweet spot where guys are likely to go forward, teams are likely to go for it on fourth down. It feels like even within the five, we've had more teams go for it on fourth down, which is what I want. Like, I love the suspense of a last second field goal, but I like it at the last second. If you're in the red zone in the third quarter, I want you to go. I want you to throw the ball. I want you to play football and not kick.

00:26:45
Speaker 1: Could you see maybe raising the crossbar at some point, Like you know, we had to do this with the extra point because it became formulaic, But can you see the NFL doing something that will discourage or maybe say he encourage you to go for something instead of trying to kick a field goal.

00:27:05
Speaker 4: I could see it happen.

00:27:06
Speaker 11: And again I haven't seen the numbers from this season, so but I don't get the sense that it's become a problem. And I think when you score, if you kick a field goal or you score a touchdown the kickoffs, I know the starting position has moved up for a lot of teams, so it doesn't feel like as good of a proposition to give up three points and then give them the ball on the thirty five they get one first down and they're in field goal range again. So like, I still don't feel like we're there, but if we get there, the NFL will have no problem change in the rule.

00:27:37
Speaker 4: But I'm not sure that they would move to crossbar. They're smarter than that.

00:27:40
Speaker 11: I think they would do something outside of making a more obvious change, because that's when we get upset, when it's something we can see and bothers us Like they tweak the rules to a certain extent that changes the incentive structure the way that I'm talking about. Maybe they moved the kickoff where they moved the kickoff up even or back even further so that it even more extensual. It's the idea that if you score, it better be worth it because you're gonna give the other team the ball at midfield. That's worth seven points, that's not worth three.

00:28:07
Speaker 1: Why don't we have lasers going up the goal post, because like, I mean, no, it's it. It can be an exact science, right. They choose not to make it an exact science.

00:28:22
Speaker 11: Because we didn't build I think the idea that this was going to be a thing that happened. Those uprights they were so high. No one was kicking over them at any point. I think putting lasers at the top of the uprights that turn on at for field goals and extra points might be something worth doing that we wouldn't change or use the the chip that's in the ball, but nobody was kicking it over the uprights before the past.

00:28:45
Speaker 1: That's a new thing, okay, but now they aren't. I mean, you could do fun colors there. This is this is we're in the entertainment business here.

00:28:53
Speaker 4: I mean, you are betraying the gray hair that you have. It's like, what are we doing. I thought that you're supposed to you're a future guy. You want AI referees. Yeah, I would have assumed.

00:29:06
Speaker 11: So I'm the old guy the cribunch and it's like, don't put lasers on my field, Like I want football, Let's run the ball three yards cloud of dust.

00:29:13
Speaker 1: I added this great here. I actually have darg care I put this on.

00:29:18
Speaker 4: It's beautiful. I like it. I need to get something.

00:29:21
Speaker 1: If you will, it's coming your way. Do you have any thoughts on the college football playoffs?

00:29:28
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:29:28
Speaker 11: I mean it's funny that we're arguing about these teams that I think don't have a chance of getting in. But I think ultimately, while we do focus, we zero in on these like.

00:29:39
Speaker 4: These micro issues.

00:29:40
Speaker 11: The macro issue is that college football is trying to build these new structures on top of a faulty foundation. And as long as we have these conferences where the talent is so like, the talent differential is so disparate. There's only twelve games, so you're not gonna get a good idea of who's actually good and who's actually bad. There's no way to solve this. There's not a playoff bracket big enough I think to get an actual champ. Like we're in the between. We're trying to build a professional league on top of these amateur structures, and until we like restructure all of it and then there are clear conferences where we know who's good and who's bad. In the NFL, because they all play teams that are all around the same level. We don't really know in college, and then even in the playoffs, you're looking at the consistency of kids who are eighteen to twenty four, Like, I can't think of anyone less trustworthy than a man eighteen to twenty four.

00:30:38
Speaker 1: Good to catch up with you. Good, Thank you, Dominic, No problem, Dan, Thank you. Dominic Foxworth, host of The Dominic Foxworth Show, ESPN contributor from our NFL defenship Back Johnny and Pittsburgh. Hey Johnny, what's on your mind today?

00:30:52
Speaker 5: Hey guys A sixty three two, sixty three, ninety tenth, I have a whose career would you rather have? And then a quick follow up on the Notre Dame Briak New Heizel comments from yesterday. First of all, I would only ask this from your show because of the totality of your wisdom on this show and this panel.

00:31:16
Speaker 1: But warn Moon.

00:31:18
Speaker 5: Or Jim Kelly and think about the totality of their careers. Secondly, New Heiswell comments were awesome. I love that dude, and he makes a lot of great points. And one thing I'm gonna say is, think about the Mown Invitational. Think about all these tournaments college hoops have to get you excited about the upcoming season. Football doesn't necessarily need it. But in order to have bowl games instead of like irrelevant matchups week one, Week two like Toledo or Youngstown State or whatever, no offense, make them, make them bowl games. And you know, if Notre Dame is, I think also works like a little chaos, and Notre Dame is going to be chaotic going forward for more reasons than one. They are setting a president with this NAL money and break you know, touched.

00:32:12
Speaker 4: On it yesterday.

00:32:14
Speaker 5: This NAL money, this is only going to get exacerbated the further we go.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm all in favor of putting the bowl games to start the year to ensure that you get quality matchups. Maybe you get a matchup that you're facing somebody that you wouldn't normally face, you get promotional fallout from that. It's going to be in September. The weather will be fine, And it's just like college basketball. They do this every year. Nobody goes all the acc and the Big ten are playing. Oh that's terrible, No, it's not. It's great.

00:32:45
Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin, I think the big issue is going to be all those ball games over Christmas break, So programming ESPN depends on.

00:32:52
Speaker 6: That program absolutely, And there's so many people.

00:32:55
Speaker 2: Bowl games on the twenty seventh, twenty eight, twenty ninth, the thirtieth of December, when people are off, they're off for the holidays. It's going to be so tough to try to fix it.

00:33:05
Speaker 1: I realize having been at the Mothership, the importance of college football with those bowl games, and you get that entire month that you own and the filler that's there. We got bull games coming up Friday, I think, so they're already starting, and maybe we do know your bowl games on Friday. Yeah, but it's starting already. This is what the Mothership, and they will fight. They will fight this. Yes, Paulie.

00:33:34
Speaker 3: There's nothing more in disingenuous on social media where people say I don't watch any of the ball games. Nobody cares about the bowl games. The ratings are always really good. People watch, even their exhibitions.

00:33:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, they watch. It's a filler. We're looking for something. We watch machin on Tuesday night. Do you have the first Bowl game on Friday, paul.

00:33:54
Speaker 3: Of course, I do. I think I think the first one is Saturday afternoon or noon. The Cricket Clebration.

00:34:00
Speaker 1: Oh that's it.

00:34:01
Speaker 3: Okay, it's really good with the bands South Carolina State, Prairie Review, A and M.

00:34:05
Speaker 1: Can they tell us when the bands are going to be on the field.

00:34:08
Speaker 3: I'll text you that.

00:34:09
Speaker 1: We can just tune in for that. Yes, all right, let me take a break. More phone calls coming up, Paul Fine bamb we'll join us in about a half hour from now. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Most cars on the road could use little TLC and MAKEO. They bring your car back to life. Affordable paint Joms, light collusion repairs. Get a free estimate today. Uh oh, better get MAKO. I watched the new it's being called an Adam Sandler movie. It's it's George Clooney. It's called Ja Kelling and it's about George Clooney. Adam Sandler kind of plays his PR person, his handler there and they're you know, this is where you go oscar buzz for Sandler. It's a crime. Get nominated for uncut Chips. That that was criminal. He was. He was spectacular in that movie, and it was a great movie as well. I don't want, I mean, I want him to get nominated just because I want to see him there. I mean, the guys made films that have made over, you know, a couple of billion dollars, and he can't act. He is a really talented person. It just feels like he got pigeonholed into. Oh he's that guy. He's that goofy guy, you know, bathroom humor. But then you see him act and then you go, no, he can't act, and he's really good in this movie. So is George Clooning, by the way. But Sandman, maybe he gets nominated. I hope he does.

00:35:43
Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin, I was shocked because I always thought the cheek code for the Oscars was a comedian that plays a dramatic role like Robin Williams or Monique. They want Oscars because they're comics, and he did something dramatic. I thought he was a shoeing to be nominated.

00:35:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was prize that uncut gems. He didn't get nominated because I mean, I thought that he was good enough to win. But sometimes when you're in the Best Supporting Actor that's when you get your opportunity, you know, because George Clooney will be the Best Actor category if he gets nominated. Samman may be best Supporting Actor. Yes.

00:36:19
Speaker 3: I found a couple of articles variety other places, and they said that best Actor uncut Gems was a little tougher for Sandler, exactly what you said. This would be best Supporting Actor for j Kelly. And there's some pretty big names.

00:36:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, but still.

00:36:32
Speaker 3: Benicio del Toro, it's a hammer.

00:36:35
Speaker 1: I don't want to mess with him.

00:36:36
Speaker 3: Sean Penn's up there, yikes. Okay, but those guys have probably won before, right del Toro?

00:36:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think both of them have.

00:36:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think there would be hoarders.

00:36:48
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it doesn't mean anything to Sean Penn another Academy word. It doesn't mean anything. No, he didn't care. Man. Remember when he would be fighting the Rozzi when he was dating or married to Madonna. It felt like he got into a fight every other week. I mean, what did you exp I mean they're waiting for you. She's the most famous woman on the planet at the time, and you're married to her, and you're like, no, he'd be fighting anybody, everybody.

00:37:22
Speaker 2: Yes, he calmed down when he married Jenny for Forrest Gump kind of cooled out, became a great actor, won a bunch of oscars.

00:37:29
Speaker 6: All good. Yeah, young Sean Payn a little while.

00:37:32
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, kind of crazy. Who is that that he made?

00:37:36
Speaker 3: Robin Wright?

00:37:37
Speaker 1: Oh, Robin Right.

00:37:38
Speaker 6: Greatest villain in movie history.

00:37:40
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh with Forrest Gump, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Jenny was not a good person.

00:37:46
Speaker 6: She was awful.

00:37:47
Speaker 3: She had some baggage to be fair, as you could see in the movie. But she strung him along for decades.

00:37:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, poor guy.

00:37:54
Speaker 6: And then was like, okay, fine, we could do it.

00:37:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, but you and your billions we could find and now that you're a billionaire, we can finally do this.

00:38:02
Speaker 6: But also I'm dying.

00:38:03
Speaker 3: That's some realism that story.

00:38:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank you Jah.

00:38:08
Speaker 6: This is your son.

00:38:09
Speaker 2: Yeah Force, he got a daddy en Force too, because it ain't mine.

00:38:15
Speaker 1: It was Lieutenant Dayan, great Lieutenant Dayan. Let's see, Oh, Wayne Gretzky at the World Cup. We talked about this. We gotta do it, Okay, Paulie Goes, come on, you gotta do it. I know you're friends with Gretzky. All right. If I was with Wayne, then I could make fun of him about that, and then PAULI goes, oh, come on, it's thirty seconds. It's so. Here's Wayne at the World Cup draw trying to pronounce a couple of countries.

00:38:50
Speaker 9: Okay, we got the winner of Denmark, North Macedonia, checked the Republic of Ireland, winner between Italy, Northern Ireland, Wales, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Caracos, the winner of the Iraq, Bolivia and Sir Nam.

00:39:14
Speaker 11: When you're doing a great job and next bofe.

00:39:16
Speaker 9: We're all confused up here.

00:39:19
Speaker 4: There as well.

00:39:20
Speaker 7: Great job practice in this one off morning, the winner between Turkeia, Romania, Slovakia and Kosovo.

00:39:32
Speaker 1: You're doing a great job up there, Wayne, I like, just keep pushing through, buddy, And he said he was practicing all morning long. I thought it was just a cold hair. Here's the names. How many did he miss pronounce? How many open net goals did he miss?

00:39:47
Speaker 3: I got him twelve for fifteen from the.

00:39:49
Speaker 1: Field, Well for fifteen, yeah, yes, Todd. The fans went nuts when he said Macedonia. Okay, I see what you did there? Did he call it? Did he say turqu He said Turkey? Uh, Turkey.

00:40:02
Speaker 3: I think I think that's right Ish Turkey.

00:40:08
Speaker 1: And the Curas. How I get Okay, you know wayneos was busy scoring, you know, eighty goals a year. He didn't have time to books and countries and things like that.

00:40:19
Speaker 3: Geography.

00:40:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't care about that, Yes, PAULI.

00:40:24
Speaker 6: I looked it up.

00:40:25
Speaker 3: And Wayne Gretzky did attend high school. But it could have been that must have been a joke. He's being recruited, he signed.

00:40:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't going to school. He went to school on your team, on your goal.

00:40:38
Speaker 6: He schooled you.

00:40:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should actually changed in that name of Karasau to whatever Wayne Gretzky says it is.

00:40:44
Speaker 1: He wants to say, it's Karaco, your Kraco.

00:40:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably right.

00:40:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you guys are wrong, You're wrong. I'm the great one. Okay. Two hours of the books, one more to go. Paul Feinbah he called Notre Dame of Bunch of cry Babies. Paul join us coming up in a half hour. More of your phone calls as well a seven to seven three DP show email address Tpadanpatrick dot com Twitter handle atp Show Final Hour in this Wednesday Straight Ahead

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