Official 2024 Money in the Bank Review & Reaction
Giving our real-time reaction to the 2024 Money in the Bank PLE, going in depth match by match.
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2024-07-08
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This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to the WWE podcast, the show the one that everybody wants me God tell somebody. Step three sixteen said, I just rep your ass is my arm. You can acknowledge me? All right, everybody, Welcome to the Money in the Bank review show here on the ww podcast. It is Sunday, July seventh, twenty twenty four. A lot has happened, Oh my god, over the last twenty four hours since we saw Money in the Bank conclude a show that I don't think I've seen so many botches in a single show. Yet at the same time, the matches seem to all work very well, so I don't think the botches really hurt any of the matches. And you know, beyond that, we had a surprise appearance from John Cena, which we'll talk about in just a moment. That will be the very first topic that we talk about here on the show, because it's it's headline news as it should be, with John Cena announcing his retirement and how he's going to do it. So we'll talk about that in a moment, but I'd like to welcome you all to the show. And welcome you to join the ad free side of things at patreon dot com, slash wwe podcast or on Apple podcasts. There's an ad free button to get you seven days for free and then join us for ad free until you feel like not listening to or you're tired of listening to ed free content, you want to just have the ads return. I guess it's up to you, and that's available to anybody that wants it. If you want to zap those ads, that's the way to do it. Now, let's get into it. Let's get into John Cena because even though he wasn't a part of the show, he's headline news and he took over the post the post show, the post press conference that is increasingly becoming more fun to watch. And Drew McIntyre even got involved in the post press conference with the post conference crew with Biggie there and you know, Wade Barrett there and Kathy Kelly there, and we'll get to that in a moment as well with seampunk yet again screwing Drew McIntyre. So we'll talk about that in just a few but these press conferences are becoming almost must watch because the hand you know that the the muzzle is off. It feels like stars are just able to speak freely. And John Cena even kind of ran things here and said, no, we're answering every single question. I'm not leaving. It's your guy's fault. You put me on first. So I watched every question ask of John Cena, and there were more. Clearly there were more w you know, seemingly was annoyed by it. I'm sure they were, but I don't think the fans were. They wanted to hear what the quote unquote and very subjectively named greatest of all time had to say about his retirement, and some good questions came out of it, you know, because he came out earlier on the show, as we saw with Trish Stratus introducing him in the very uncharismatic way that Trish does. And I'm sorry, Look, I love Trisha as a nostalgic act. I think there is still some fight left dinner too. I think that her and Tiffany Stratton seemed to maybe have something going, but she has never been known for being ultra charismatic and energetic on the mic. That's never been her thing, so I can't Faulter for that. But Nonetheless, Sina comes out and he tells us that, you know, he's here to officially announce his retirement. But if anybody saw his shirt at home, you know, before he made a retirement. If you read his shirt, it said basically like his twenty twenty five retirement tour. So if you read his shirt before you listen to his words, you're kind of like, oh, okay, well he's going to announce his retirement, but it's going to be a tour. It's not going to be a singular date. And yeah, he wanted to say thank you. He's mister grateful now. But I think that the post press conference gave us the dats as he said, which if you're looking for the Cliffe Mills version of it, there are thirty to forty dates that he's going to have with WWE starting in twenty twenty five. So I don't think he's going to be involved on ww television until Raw debuts on Netflix in January early January, so that'll be the kickoff, if you will, of the John Cena retirement tour, and he'll go until December. That's the plan right now. From January to December, say, he has thirty six dates let's let's take the mid road here between thirty and low forties is what he said, say even thirty six. Why am I picking thirty six? Because if there's twelve months in a year, no, there are not. If and he does three dates per month, it misses maybe one televised show a month. That's three dates per month average. You know, maybe he goes six weeks straight and takes two weeks off. I mean, of course he could do that, but on average, he should be on a televised event three times a month. I don't know if he'll do any house shows. I don't know if that includes house shows or maybe I missed that part of it. If it's just televised events, I would imagine televised, but I wouldn't put it past him to do to do a house show here and there. And everything he does next year will be the last thing he does for that particular event, meaning it's his last Rumble, it's his last Chamber. He'll be there too. It's his last WrestleMania, but not his final match. I was mistaken thinking that WrestleMania would be his final match, but no, it's just his final WrestleMania. It looks like he'll wrap it up and call it a career in December of next year, and that's kind of cool. It gives everybody an opportunity, man, everyone but a large number of people an opportunity to go say thank you you have him return in kind, appreciate every moment you have with John Cena, because he had made it very clear also in the press conference he is not going to return to a guest referee roll after this or turn it, you know, take a random bump through a table after this. That he is one, one hundred percent done after this. And I believe him, and I know this industry is infamous for never say never, right. Sean Michael said the same thing about his career. Stone Cold Steve Austin said the same thing about his career. Hell Undertaker made a career out of talking about and people speculating about him ending his career. So you know, of course this isn't never say never. But I'll take Johnson at his word, which is also what his character and real life persona has lived on and lived by. Is his word, and that this is it, right, So pretend that New Year's Eve of twenty twenty five is it, which is kind of a weird time to retire, is it not like what are you gonna? What's the final event in December, like Knight of Champions or something. Do you really want to go out at Night of Champions? Yeah? Is it like in Saudi? I mean, I mean no, because Crown Jewels in November. So but I'm trying to think, like why December you can't just kick it a few months to December, you know, to WrestleMania forty two. I don't know anyway, Taking everything at his word, he'll end it and wrap it up in December of next year, just in time to end or really just in time before WrestleMania forty two season kicks off, and there were some fun questions asked, you know, will you turn heel? Is this an opportunity for you to turn heel? And seeing us in so many words, said no. He speaks very much like a politician where he dodges questions in a way that he's dodging it by answering another question that wasn't asked, you know, like for example, when the Vince McMahon thingk was asked, He's like, you know, well, focusing on the now. It's a bit but it's like, Okay, you know, got it. You're not answering the question. And so it's a very tried and true traditional way to dodge a question you don't want to ask answer without saying I'm not going to answer that, and you just answer a question that wasn't asked. And so obviously didn't talk about the Vince McMahon stuff only when he was asked. But again the heel stuff, he said, I don't know if there be a purpose to it or if there be a you know, that it would be people would see through it, I think, is what he said, which is kind of disappointing that we won't get it, seemingly anyway, get a heel Johnson in what that looks like. But I mean, not the end of the world. It's just kind of disappointing we're not going to get it at you know, any point. But hey, we still have mister all smiles all the time in Cody Rhodes that he'll eventually I think turn heel and hopefully in his career and he doesn't make a career out of just being a baby face. But staying on topic here, John Cena does have a plethora of talent to work with. And while we all speculate of who his final opponent's going to be, and I think it will be maybe somebody that we've seen before, and people are already talking about his retirement match being against Randy Orton. I would love that. I think Randy and John Cena will have time to work together. Maybe it's at this year's WrestleMania. But to me, Randy Orton should be his final opponent and not at WrestleMania. The reason is not that it's not worthy of it, but WrestleMania is a time to help put over new talent. It's usually not a time usually not a time for just kind of one offs between legends that are not the future of the business. You know, you want to help build that next generation. So I think that Randy should be his final opponent, but his final opponent it's not going to be at WrestleMania. But you look at the roster, there's so many guys he hasn't worked with. On top of the fact that, and I still this is outside the but how about if Mjf's contract, which we don't know the details of, I know he's in under aw in contract with AW I understand that confirmed he is, but we don't know the length of it. What if what if MJF didn't sign a long term deal to AW was just a year, maybe eighteen months, even that gives him enough time to opt out coming to WWE. I just wanted MJF John Cena promo in the worst way. I probably won't get it, but it is certainly as it's a fantasy of mine in wrestling context, to be able to see those two on the mic, even in the ring, would be fun. But in the current roster, on the current roster, you know he's probably gonna work with several new talent. He could easily work with anybody, including Stampunk. We saw that being teased Punk even teasing at the press conference that I'll be the one to bring him back out of retirement, which I don't think will happen. But I think Punk and Sena is a match. Punkin Orton is a match. I don't want Orton or I'm sorry, I don't want Sena and Roman. I don't want that. You could even see and someone asked him this Sena Rock, How about Sena and Rock? Somebody asked that he dodged it a bit, that was a very political answer. It was a whole bunch of nothing, is what it was. It was basically saying stay tuned. It was like, you know, ten paragraphs that really boiled down to I don't know, stay tuned. So there's a lot of cool matchups and it's just gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun to see John Cena. If he's in your town and WWE is coming through, and you know it's either raw or smacked out. I don't think he'll be tied to a specific brand, then I would recommend you go see him because I believe him when he says that he is not going to return in any capacity. Maybe obviously for Hall of Fame he would, So I think for Hall of Fame you could have him come out on stage obviously, or when he takes the stage at WrestleMania. That would probably be the extent of it. You're not going to see him in a guest referee role. You're not going to see him as a general manager role. You know that that's probably off the table. So I'd highly recommend that if you're able to. From January of twenty twenty five until December of twenty twenty five, able to see John Cena. It is probably your last chance from a wrestling standpoint to see him, and I'd highly recommend that you do so. The only thing that's going to be very interesting, and I thought about this is kind of a morbid situation. What if John Cena gets hurt? Like, what if John Cena gets hurt next year and he's on for six months. I'm not trying to put the out in the universe, but I guess I just did. I mean, what then? I mean, the guy hasn't He's forty seven years old. He hasn't run in anywhere near full time schedule for a long time. I know he did his run last year with SmackDown, had several dates and it was fun. But like, what if he tears his tricep like Punk did? What if you know, he blows his shoulder out, blows a knee out now, and then he's out for six to eight months. I would imagine he'll tack that on to whatever his return date is and still trying to manage a full year out of his career. I don't know, but I'm sure there's got to be some kind of contingency plan for him to be able to you know, really make a full year out of his fire Farewell tour. So it's something I thought about, like, Okay, yeah, this is your plan, but you know, life has a way of of kind of have having its own plans for you at times. So I'm not hoping that happens by any means. I hope that doesn't. That's and I mean that I really don't want that to happen, but just thinking ahead, like, Okay, he has this whole thing, he has this big idea, and then he blows his acl out right, he pulls an Aaron Rodgers and you know, first night out, just tears his achilles and he's out for like, you know, the whole year. I mean, it's possible, right, the dude has not taken that many bumps in this many years. And I also want victories for John Cena. There's even a seventeenth Somebody asked, can you see yourself winning a seventeenth title world title, which would break the record Rick Flair's record, and he said, oh, well, you know, I got to earn it, being very modest, knowing damn well, if you gave him truth serum, he would say, I don't need to earn it. By birthright of being John Cena. I earn it right. But he said the politically correct thing, and rather the corporately correct thing, that I got to earn it, and that he's been on a losing streak, which he has because every time he comes back, he's in the give back mode of his career where he's there to help put over a new talent. And I respect that, but at some point, you got to give John Cena some victories here, and I think upon his return, you're going to see John Cena rack up victories and maybe he'll chase the title. Maybe he'll chase the title, maybe he'll go against Cody Rhodes. I mean, there's really they should look at this as, I mean, an opportunity to use one of the best stars for the last time while he can still go and make massive moments while helping build the next generation. I don't think I need to tell them that that would be preaching to the choir. But that's how if I was presented with this opportunity and I had full reign of creative, that's how I would look at it. As fans, I think we should understand that. So and again, the move to Netflix in January is a massive deal, and you do wonder what the ratings are going to be like given that there are how many millions, hundreds of millions of people subscribed to Netflix and how many how much that will improve their ratings going off of cable tv. That's just wild to think about. How crazy is it that Monday Night Raw that we all knew on at least from again. I'm Jena, I'm the I'm the millennial here. I started watching in ninety seven and it was on USA. Then it went to TNN. Remember that again, this is Raw, not SmackDown. I know SmackDown was on upn uh and other some other networks, but it went from USA to TNN uh and then I think back to USA, and now it's going to go to Netflix, which is just crazy because it's just taking that risk of going off with I don't even know if it's a risk anymore, but going off of cable TV to a streaming service. It's very twenty twenty four ish, but it's something that I think is really a safe move. Also, side note, before I forget, Bad Blood is coming back October fifth in Atlanta, Georgia, and Corey Graves and Michael Cole had a nice reminders. Gave her a nice reminder to us that it's the first time in twenty seven years that the Bad Blood Event is returning to WWE, and it's a return to the exact date of the original. Where as we all know, Undertaker and Sean Michaels had their first hell had the very first Helen of Cell match and what I believe is arguably the best Hell in a Cell match that has ever been presented, and there were the debut of Cain and all that. I mean, it's special to me because it was the first real storyline I remember getting into was Undertaker and Shawn Michaels. And I've documented that more times than I can count here on the show, so I won't bore you, but it's cool that they're bringing that back the Bad Blood Event. Which are they really going to have blood on the Bad Blood Event? How can they not gotta be right? How can they not have it? And you think about some of the storylines that could go into that Bad Blood Event. I mean, there's seth rollins in CM Punk that was teased on the show. We'll get into that, but I know, again, I've spent nearly twenty minutes talking about John Cena here. But it's I think deserving of time here because of how big of a star he is, what he's meant to wrestling. He's the face of the PG era, and he gets to call his own shot of how he leaves, and I think that was brought up to and that's a big deal in triple h that's a big deal, and it's it's pretty damn cool he gets to do this, barring injury of course, that he gets to just have fun work with creative on who he wants to work with, which he says he doesn't have any say in that. That's a much a nonsense. Of course he does. You know, I don't think he doesn't have full creative control, but he has, he has significant input. I mean, it's of course right, he's John Cena. So who he works with is going to be interesting. We can now speculate starting in January, who does he work with? Does he win the rumble? Does John Cena win the Royal Rumble this year? Very possible, unlikely but possible. What about this stone cold versus John Cena. I mean, I'm throwing stuff out there that sounds insane. It sounds wishful thinking. It sounds very yah it's a video game match, but like not really. I mean, you've already got half the equation there. We've never seen it. We've never seen John Cena versus Austin and John Sene is going to be available for a full year. You know, Austin who came off a very good performance a couple of years ago at WrestleMania thirty eight. Give him enough time, could get in ring shape. Why the hell not? Why the hell not? So again, unlikely but possible. So all right, I'll get off the John Cena to train here. We've kind of exhausted at I think. But it's something fun to really think about as WWE goes from hot to blazing hot, I think white hot starting late this year. As I mean, guys, we just got through. If you've been watching wrestling since WrestleMania forty and posts WrestleMania forty and you know the last three months, then you have seen the worst at WWE has to offer for the next probably five years, because we have massive returns on the way that have listed number of times. Roman Reigns is coming back very soon. The Rock is coming back very soon. Charlotte Flair is coming back, probably at SummerSlam. I would imagine we have the return of John Cena for a full year, a full year. Think of all the potential matchups. We've got the Wyatt six now, you know, paying tribute to Bray Wyatt. Hey, guys, and I've only touched the surface of what's going on when they go to Netflix and it's no, it's not PG anymore officially, and they can kind of do whatever they want uncensored. We don't have to hear things being blanked out, and there can be blood and swearing when needed. I mean, that's going to open up creative. It won't turn everything around, but it's going to be fun to see what they do with that newfound freedom. So you add that to the hype of John Cena. On top of the fact that at that point it's WrestleMania season. People are talking about the rumble, who could come in, who could debut, who could return, you know, Rock and Cody likely a matchup. Guys, this is gonna be wild. It's gonna be wild. If you aren't getting excited, then I don't know what you're doing. So all right, let's talk about money in the Bank a little bit more, and I want to talk about Seth Rollins and Damian Priest. Let me talk about that because it leads into Drew, which, by the way, you know what, let me back up, because if I'm gonna start this correctly, let's talk about the men's ladder match for the Money in the Bank briefcase, which I have to say, I think the women outdid the men on this. And we'll talk about the women's matches, even though as clunky as it was, I think it did out do the men's. So we'll talk about that in a minute for the women anyway, but let's talk about the men's Money in the Bank ladder match. And this obviously saw Dremacicatare come out on top as many of us had predicted. But this was a car crash match and it was a lot of moments where Knight could win. And then of course you had Uso Jay Uso, you know who could had his moments where you thought he could win. Andrade was there to just be a body to be thrown around. I mean, just call it like I see it. You know, Andrade has been a very flat and that's being generous return. But outside of that, you know, we had Carmelo Hayes have some cool moments. He had a moment where you think, oh my god, maybe he could and Drew ultimately did come out on top and he ends up getting you know, the briefcase where you thought, hey, okay, he he's probably cashing in, but then you're thinking, well, the announcers are talking about it, so it probably isn't gonna happen. So they did a little bit of reverse psychology there where it actually did happen even though they said it would happen, which makes me think it's not going to happen, but it did. I don't know if that was the the thinking. I don't know if it was that deep, but that's how I thought about it. And this match went sixteen and a half minutes, by the way, and the finish was McIntyre knocking Jay out of the ring with the Claymore climbed the ladder, got the victory, Jay did spear Gable. Gable was a standout here. Gable was the star of the show. He seemingly is a heel still and I think he still is, but I you know, just you're seeing how good he is and how good he how much better he is than we all thought he was, and that's saying something. He continues to impress. He is a dynamic, deep character that is far, in a way, the standout in this match, more than anyone, more than Carmelo, more than jay Uso, who's got one word right now to his name and it's successful and it's fun and it's marketable. But jay Uso, I think needs a little bit of a creative shove. I think he's been a little bit of a one dimensional guy for a while. Uh in the whole yea yeat? Everything's he eat, everything's the eat, right. I When you think about the words too, it's so funny. The simplest words have been the most marketable, right Daniel Bryan with yes, yes, Austin continues with what and the but grudgingly just awful, terrible? What chance the yeat movement? Jay Uso, the movement with l A Knight So yeat? Yeah? What? Yes? I mean, just simple stuff, simple words. But anyway, I just kind of thought about that too during the match. So he had McIntyre win, and then that bled into the match between Priest and Seth, which I thought was really good. I mean, I I enjoyed this very much, despite the fact that there were there were a couple of f ups, like Priest not kicking out when he should have. He's looking over to see where Drew is. It was off? Was it off the falcon arrow that he screwed up and he didn't kick out and the referee just didn't count the three? Yeah, that was a screw up, But you know, I like so what. It didn't bother me other than to feel bad for him. But he wasn't the only one that screwed this thing up here. I mean, we had McIntire come out and make this thing a triple threat. I don't know why we have to wait for Samantha Irvin to announce it it's a triple threat. I thought they could just ring the bell. But anyway, very very small, small complaint, but Drew did make it a triple threat. He cashed it in and we ended up getting a terrible Claymore to a priest, which it wasn't. I don't think it was Priest's fault. That was clearly on McIntyre who botched that Claymore kick, which you almost never see. I don't know if that's ever happened, but then you knew that Punk wasn't going to be far behind, and he wasn't. We then even had Cole ask quote, what are you doing? What the hell are you doing here? Phil? So I don't know why Cole had has been the one to use Phil's name to make it more serious and real. I guess, not a complaint, just kind of it's a bit off the typical narrative that WW uses, which is just you know, the announcers never used the wrestler's real names unless they refer to themselves as that to begin with. First weird, It's just weird, but I understand why they did it. I guess. However, this was Drew getting screwed by Punk again, because after Punk hitch McIntyre with several chair shots, he ends up getting South of Heaven by Priest and Priest retains. And not only did Punk screw McIntyre again, he inadvertently or maybe a little bit of purposefully screwed Seth because now Seth can't challenge for the world title as long as Drew of sorry, as long as Priest is still champion. And you saw the frustration as Seth stared down Punk after the match, teasing a future matchup with those two that was supposed to happen at this year's WrestleMania, and maybe it does happen at next year's so that I don't think it'll happen immediately, but it is something that they can use as a platform to spring into their program whenever it does happen. So fun kind of dual screwjob by punk one, intentional one not so much. And McIntyre lost it on the show on the post show, and it's going to be fun to see what he does. He can't quit this time, right, he has to go into full blown destruction mode. This is clearly leading to a match between these two wrest at SummerSlam, and we'll have to see what happens there and maybe it leads into bad blood. Very apropos for this matchup, no doubt about it. It's just to me like there're going with Gunther and Priest right now, and I was very adamant that they're not going to do that because it's not an exciting matchup and it's not and it still isn't, and I don't think it ever will be with Gunther versus Priests. No disrespect to either man, I know you're trying to build for the future. But here's here's one big, massive problem. Those are two heels. Now, sure, you could have Priest get kicked out, which I think he's an inch away from with the whole Judgment Day beating him down. Finn Balor could turn on him. I think he's very close to doing that anyway, and you could get some sympathy on Priest, yes, you could. Or you could wait for them to screw Priest until SummerSlam and have them intentionally screw Priest. But then wouldn't that kind of soften the victory Gunther's first world title victory by having the Judgment Day essentially inadvertently help him or purposely help him. You gonta run that risk too. So either way, I don't know what scenario you're gonna run me or try to sell me on that Priest versus Gunther is exciting. It's really not. Sorry, it's not. I mean, i'd watch it. I wouldn't lose my mind over it. You just look at it and go hmmm, yeah, I mean, I could see that match on Raw. But if someone said to you, that's gonna be the Summer Slam main event, you'd say to yourself, what how Why? So they've got some work to do over the next four weeks to get anyone excited about this matchup if they're sticking with it and if it's one on one and they don't add somebody to make it a triple thread. But it's just a weird combination as currently constituted. Right again, things could change Radom a night. Things could change, absolutely, But if this is the match you're going with, I'm a bit perplexed. Doesn't excite a whole lot of people. So anyway, let's get to the Intercontinental title match, which was the broad Breaker Sammy's Ain match, and you know, my hats off to both men, love me first and foremost. Breaker continues to show you he's not a one trick pony with the spear. He's got a arsenal pretty deep. Sammy z Ain never has a bad match almost ever. I don't even know if I've seen a bad sammy'se Ain match, I don't think I can name it. But uh, the finish here that well, this match lasted thirteen minutes and here's the finish. Breaker slam Zay to the mat went for a spear, but Zaane caught him with a kick. Zaane waited for a Breaker to stand up and then hit him with the halluva kick and got the victory. So Sane wins, and Sane win's clean. A lot of people are perplexed by that, thinking it's gonna hurt Breaker. It's not okay, bron Breaker tomorrow Night on Raw could do what Drew McIntyre is likely gonna do and destroy everything in sight, send more people to the hospital, and then you're back to heat on Breaker. You forgot all about his loss to Sammy, Right, It's gonna be very easy to repair Breaker. I think that is he a little bit early in his career to win that title. Kind of yeah, I mean so, I think I'm just blinded so much by and bored so much by the Sammy's Aye title run. And I have not done a turnabout face here where I've said, oh, I can't wait for Sammy to beat gun Through at WrestleMania. No, I've been steadfast that I don't think he was the right guy. Fans remember, we're very upset that it wasn't Gable versus gun Through at WrestleMania. I still think it should have been. I've been very unenthusiastic about the sami's Ain victory against Gunther and even having the match to begin with it WrestleMania. I just don't think it was the right matchup. That's not to say they don't have good matches, but just because you can have a good match doesn't mean it's the right match. So I think I've been a little bit blinded so much by and bored by samy's Ain's run that I'm thinking, well, Breaker could win it. He should win it. Sam, He's been boring. But also you look at it and go, is Breaker ready for that? Though? Is he the right guy right now? I don't, you know. That's up for debate, But either way, I was very surprised. I did think Breaker was gonna win here and continue his momentum. But they're clearly trying to make the sami's Ain victory over Gunther stick here give him a little credibility, and they did that here. I mean having him beat Breaker was a surprise to many, and I think Breaker is going to be just fine. People are saying, oh, that damaged him so much. Not really. No, Again, Breaker is early in his career. You're more vulnerable to doing damage early in your career with how the way fans view you. But Breaker can easily get that back. I mean, I'm raw you'll forget all about it when he starts spearing people through concrete walls, you know, and tipping over stuff and sending people to the hospital. So just weird. And I'm still bored by Sammy's Aine's run. Sorry, I mean, I just I'm it's a snoozefest, almost as unimpressive as Bailey's run. And this again, it's no slight on the talent themselves. They're doing what they can with what they're given. But for both, especially Bailey, I know she wasn't on the show at all. They have done her dirty and Sammy's aint, it's just been boring. He screams every promo. He's the underdog in every single match, which is kind of fascinating. He's got some fun babyface music. He's just he's a little boring right now, and he's been a little boring for a while. Despite how loud he wants to scream about everything he talks about all the time in every promo. That's I feel, that's all excellent. Entring wrestler character needs a kind of a rejuvenation, and I think he needs to drop the belt. That's just how I feel. Okay, let's so. Yeah, we got trist Stratus stuff, and the John Cena stuff happened after that. We already went over in deep detail for twenty five minutes. We got the women's ladder match. Boy, that's a car wreck. And then you know, there was some bad spots early and often in this matchup. Even Naomi split legged DDT was nearly a disaster. Some of the botches, like Zoe Stark doing the I don't know, she's trying to do some kind of sent on on someone on the ladder, very close to the ropes, and she totally missed and nearly broke her neck. That was scary. You know. Some of the botches onto the ladder were scary, very scary. Was a Lyra of Valkyria who took the bump from EO off the ladder was at her Okay I think it was, or is it Naomi? I can't remember, but it was a disaster. But I mean that in a way that's almost that is complimentary because somehow the women trudged through the botches and the scary moments. Man I spent and even Corey Graves kind of caught on to what the fans were doing when they were being so quiet, that they were so concerned. They were more concerned about the health and well being of the wrestlers. Even said that, which is true because the people were like, whoa oo. I mean, it was uncomfortable and some of the spots were scary. I'm not trying to throw shade at the women, but and it's not a match to easily navigable, I get it, you know, but it was scary early on, and the women still put like pulled through and pulled through very well. The dynamic with Chelsea Green being from Canada West Vancouver, which is the other end of the damn country, and the crowds still were enamored with her. There were moments I thought they were actually going to pull the trigger on Chelsea Green winning. She is a fun character to watch. She's kind of the lovable loser that you don't really hate, but she's so kind of oblivious in her own world. It's almost charming. I can't describe her character. It's just she's got something there and I know Canada. Being in Canada does help her reaction, given she's from Canada. I get that, but even in the States, she's been supported and supported well, and I think that this could have been a moment for her, but makes more sense, as I said, with Tiffany winning here as many people predicted, because what are you going to do. Okay, you get to victory, the crowd goes crazy for Chelsea, but then what are you going to have her cash in and be the first one to fail? Are you going to really waste the wunn in the bank? Cashion on a joke, on a cashing you know it is not going to be successful, just to you know, just to really I don't know if waste it's the right word, but to utilize it, there's a more professional way to say it, right, to utilize it in that manner, to just be have Chelsea Green lose and then once she lost, you would have said, Okay, well she cashed in and she lost, Well, that was kind of a waste. I wish they gave it to someone that could actually cash in and win instead of making it a big joke. So I think that that would have been the backlash, and Tiffany won, and I think that there is there is something to be said for that because you could now take a heel, which again in these matches, when you look at who wins Mcatyre Heel Money, the mag winner, Tiffany Stradden heel Money, the Magladder match winner. You look at the people who have won over the years. And I continue to say this, it's a match designed for heels to win because the manner in which you cash in your prize is in alignment with the morals of the heel. Morals and values of the heel. Opportunistic, hitting people when they're down, trying to steal the prize, you know, you know, not really earning it per se, but taking advantage of the situation to get what you want. All values that heels have. It's in alignment with how you utilize the briefcase. And again you don't have to Somebody out there may say, well that's how you that's how most people do it, but you don't have to like John Cena who announces in in advance. The baby face is announced it in advance that they're going to cash in. Well, then that kind of that. Then the argument against that is, well, you're just stupid. It makes you look stupid because now you're you're not utilizing the prize to its full potential, Like, if you really want to win the belt so bad, why would you announce it ahead of time instead of using the element of surprise. So it's it's again. It all boils down to a very heel heavy prize that I think we should kind of just understand moving forward. Now. It's not to say a baby face can't win it, but statistically, I don't have the numbers in front of me. I'm just taking you at face value here that the heels generally win that. Now back to Tiffany. Now you have a money to bank briefcase holder that you can take seriously, and I think that Tiffany will hold on to that for a month or two. They typically don't have the women hold it too much, they just can't help themselves. But I think Tiffany may hold it for a little longer than we realize, and that way they can kind of figure out what they want to do with her heading into you know, SummerSlam and of course end of the year rumble Mania. Do they want to have her cash in? They want what do they want to do with her? You know, maybe she goes into the side program with Trish for a while, but Tiffany Stratton was over too with the crowd. I mean you heard her reaction. She was very pleasantly surprised. You could even see it in her face with the reaction she got. So the Canadian crowd always delivered, you know, they did in this instance too, and they even you know, they said, you know, this is awesome through nearly every match. But the women I think still despite these botches, despite these scary moments, from an emotional standpoint, and really from just an effort, yes, I mean it felt like effort. Why is even the I think the women won here. If you're to put the men's in women's liner matches side by side, hey, I'd give the nod to the women. But uh, all right, then we got again. I'm not going through every spot we can. If you guys want to talk about specific spots, you can email me at the mailbag at ww podcast dot com. But uh, let's see here. We then get the bloodline versus Cody, Randy and Ko. This match, let's see here, did twenty four minutes and forty seconds, and yes we got another ref bump. This ref by the way down for like forty minutes. It felt like and as a company that prides itself on being professional and you know, top of the line and they're the cream of the crop, doesn't know how to fix these situations if this was truly supposed to be a competitive a competitive sport. I mean, this is a one of the most common situations in a match. A referee gets knocked down, chaos then ensues. Yet they don't know how to solve this problem timely or at all. Are there not a multitude of referees back there ready to just take his place, or they just wait for the referee to wake up. I mean, it's just it's kind of funny that one of the most common problems in pro wrestling, you know, they just didn't know how to solve it. Just I don't know, just leave him there, right, leave the referee for dead. Not a complaint, just a funny observation. But there was a ref bump, as nearly every Bloodline match does, twenty five minutes. I mean, this is this was a long match, but good good ring psychology. Ko, who had a rough week obviously from a personal standpoint, his mother being in the hospital. Yeah, even said it after the match, had some nice spots here getting beat down, but coming out with the absolute fist in fury, going after the bloodline and hitting a stunner on the outside of the ring was was interesting. Solo getting hit with a stunner or no, he got hit with a crossroads, which du I mean you okay, let me see. And this is a serious question to those of you that love Cody Rhodes. You're a Cody apologist. He can do no wrong. He's you know, just he's the best thing. Ever. When you look at his finish, look me in the eyes with a straight face and tell me his finish is a great finish maneuver. Tell me it's awesome. Please, somebody, anybody bueller, because almost every time, almost about ninety eight percent of the time, when I see his finish, it's it looks terrible. And it's not on Cody. It's not on the guy he's working with. It's on the maneuver itself, because it's nearly impossible to make it look good unless you do it perfectly, which I think one of the security guys that Cody gave it to the other day did and he nearly broke his neck. But it looked great, you know. But the way Cody delivers it, and the way the maneuver is just actually delivered the best way you can. Cody's the one taking the bump. It doesn't devastating for his opponent at all. And then the fact that he has to deliver it multiple times a match further cements how crappy that move is. I understand all he holds on and just uh, he just hits three of them. Well, then if you have to hit a maneuver multiple times, I would stop calling it your finish. I would stop using that move and move on. So anyway, it looked horrible on Solo, horrible, but but the right team got the victory here. Even after Solo got at RKO and got demolished. Jacob Fatu is a standout. He's the He's the werewolf, whatever they call him. They continue to push the bloodline and build heat and build heat. There were there were we want Roman chants that happened many times throughout the match, before the match, after the match, and the crowd was waiting for it. I said that this is the earliest it could happen. But I knew once you saw John Cena, you're not gonna have two big returns in a night. Usually. I know that Punk and Orton did it at Survivor Series last year, but it's rare because then one kind of steps on the other and overshadows the other. It's not you usually don't want to do it. Also, it gives a little more heat to Solo and his group. And now now we have Summer Slam on the horizon, there's no more in between b pay per view stops. It is Summer Slam full throttle. Now we can start looking at ooh okay, SmackDown. Could Roman return at SmackDown? Very possible? Could Roman return just before Summer Slam? Very possible? Is he going to return at SummerSlam? Very possible, if not probable. So I think within four weeks time we will have a returned Roman reigns and I think Paul Hammond's going to be in tow. The usos are going to be in toe, and we're gonna have a build to the og bloodline versus the Rogue blood line, and it's going to be off to the races a lot of fun. I just can't imagine a scenario in which Roman is not backed by SummerSlam. It's possible if they want to build to the end of the year, but I mean people are ready so but yeah, I think the right team won here. And I thought the show overall was was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun, and johnsona made it fun. Yes, but the matches despite the botches, and usually sometimes botches can ruin moments and take you out of the moment, or when the fans say, oh you fed up, you fed up, that kind of stuff, It's like, okay to me. I know fans can come to the shows and chant what they want within reason. And I'm not saying fans can't chant this or I'm not trying to censor speech. But I'm also saying to myself, if I hear that, like, it's a bit disrespectful. Of course they screwed up. That's not how they wanted to execute the maneuver. Some of these maneuvers are very difficult to perform, even if you're a trained professional, Like, they are very difficult and the margin for error is very like razor thin between you know, being a paraplegic and walking after the match. And again, the Canadian crowd didn't do that. I'm just saying, sometimes you hear that when a maneuver is not performed the way it should be. So coming back, those botches really didn't hurt to me. The outcomes of the matches. Now, it was weird when Priest didn't kick out and he was supposed to and the referee had to essentially stop his count. That's never a fun botch. That's kind of a yikes botch. Drew McIntyre's sloppy Claymore which never happens. And you know what, again, I'm not knocking Drew. I'm not knocking Priest. This stuff happens, all right, This stuff is you know, I'm not knocking anybody, because at the end of the day, you just still want to see Punk and Drew. You know, you still want to see that match. And for the women who had a botchfest to start the match with the money in the bank ladder match, it wasn't fun to watch. It was uncomfortable to watch, but they trudged through and they kicked ass. They just did so overall, I think it was an awesome, well that's a awesome, very good event. If I was rated on a scale of zero to ten, I give the show an eight, you know, seven zo point five to eight. It was it was good to very good, and I think it delivered. It delivered, and I'm ready for SummerSlam. We can now officially put our mode into SummerSlam mode. You know, we could look forward to August third. Indianapolis is in Indianapolis. No comp's are Cleveland Cleveland. I'm saying Indianapolis because it feels like the next like, you know, three big events are at Indianapolis, but that's because we have Royal Rumble WrestleMania there. So if you're in in Indianapolis, you got a lot of great wrestling coming your way, a lot of massive shows. I'm jealous. But no, this is in Cleveland, so we have some again tentatively, if I was to lay out some matches that are already penciled in for w B, I would say it's probably a returning Charlotte Flair, but it's Bailey versus Naya. We have a Gunther versus Priest. We have Roman potentially versus Solo, but more likely he returns at SummerSlam or right after the show's over and then spears solo or helps Cody retain after the blood line is seemingly you know, trying to help him some along those lines. Punk versus Drew. Absolutely, Seth is a mystery right now. I don't know what they're gonna do with Seth, so he's kind of a conundrum at the moment. So there's a lot and returning. Don't forget about Rhea Ripley, my god, Mommy is coming back and as she put it several months ago, looking for blood, as Dom is being pursued by Live, and as Live has taken nearly everything from Rhea, her championship, her spot, and soon her ma and my god, look out when she returns. So there's so much to look forward to. Very very kind of, you know, very vague. Look at SummerSlam here, but it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a lot of fun over the next several months and leading it to next year. Obviously we know it's gonna be the John Cen of retirement to her. So all right, that'll do it for me. Thanks for listening, everybody, and I'll be back Tuesday night with your Monday Night Raw review and then of course in between lots of other stuff, lots of goodies coming out this week. Your regular reviews are also on the table an xt the mail bags on Fridays, we have an interview that we did with Raven that I'm gonna be posting shortly the next day or two, so look out for that and consider going vip on our website WWE podcast dot com, or go to Apple and get an ad free experience there, because if you're using the Apple podcast app, there's a subscribe button right there and you can go add free and get rid of all the ads you heard throughout the show. Or if you're, of course on Patreon, that's a great way to Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast to go add free. All right, thanks everybody for listening. I appreciate it and I'll be talking to you next time. 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