Club 520 - James Johnson on hooping with Jeff Teague at Wake, Derrick Rose, Pacers CRAZY playoff run

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How you what?
Man?
Playoff time with the lads looking light?
Man, it's been wicked. I gotta call Adam Silver but
were hanging on. Man for sure, you gotta call the
commission I know I'm gonna get a call about our
real Well yeah, I don't know. Y'all clipped that. I said, Adam,
you gotta get this ship together going on now.
When I said the pacers got cheated at five, everybody said,
I'm called a commissioner.
You missed one. Lena Lay, you're going to the top.
Well, we'll talk. We're gonna talk cool, we'll get into it.
I don't want to get turned onto e.
Bro.
Obviously in a league a long time, you have anybody
hit you a lot about the Parlay.
It was like Dave sold on to me today.
Man, Nah, I.
Mean that's what if you listen, not need in fact,
Jesus discernment the right way. Man shout out the horror.
Man for sure, last with certain at least man shout
out family over there at stock x Man, we got
family in the buildings and a guess we got family
as usual. Introducing blast Man to my far left, we
got my dog Bis should be here.
How you what, nasty?
What's happening? Nasty? I'm excited about this one. This one
here a real one, Bro, like this nigga lifted the
building off my car. Man, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a
real one.
Man.
Yeah. Man, listen before you get through intro. We got it.
It's only right we do the stories all man. Listen. Man.
The first time we had this episode playing, it was
one of the craziest stories we have ever had in
this city. Shout out to the old building. Man, it
definitely fail. Everybody car man, Bro pulled up in the
new truck. Rab that bitch raight in to the wall.
Everybody pull that car out. It's raining outside.
Ray, I'm like, this is nigga, James, Why I.
Like this is story, y'all.
I ain't get to see it.
Hold on way worsepan, Bro, you know what's crazy about
that in the building. You know, oh.
God, we had to get it off through You know
you're parking the wrong spot whole building.
That's true. Story.
They just spot with your ship can get trampled.
Shreak. Hey man, you know everything doing good?
Max.
Everybody new cars up there? Man, God is good for sure. Man.
Still to my right, my dog young not your young teag.
You what good bro? We got family in the building,
my brother. I can't wait.
This is the episode everybody's been waiting on talking about
this finally happens.
About to be a goodie. Come on, man, the real
way for us. Man.
We got sixteen year event man PACER's legend, our family
to build a man, mister James Johnson, Man, big dog.
We appreciate you again brother being man. What for sure?
Bro d come man, we had to do it for sure,
man that tea. Man, just tell us how y'all linked up?
Man? Obviously I go way back. Oh we go way back.
But I tell you the first time I seen James,
he was walking through the airport. I was leaving my
wake for his visit. He was coming on to his
wake for his visit, and they was picking him up
dropping me off, and I'm like he walking by.
I was like this. He was like what up?
And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna go to wait.
I just knew like that be my partner, like he was,
what up? And then they told me James just committee man,
We're gonna have James. I'm like, dude, I've seen the
airport right.
He's like yeah. I was like. Coach battle was like
he cold, man, he cold? And I was like he cold.
He was like, he ain't gonna be with us very long?
What you mean by that? He was like, he's gonna
go to the NBA. Damn. That was right.
It was Coach battles Man. He was right about a
lot of things. Coach, what made you choose White? Like,
what made you commit?
I went on my visit them niggas was weak and
I was.
Tell tru.
It was a weak and out I said, oh no,
I'm gonna play here right away, okay.
Right away.
And this is before you I mean, I ain't know
him like that now. I know h l D even
camp before you left, you know what I mean?
It was?
It was definitely a business decision, more than more than
anything else. Shout out Pat Kelsey as well, you know,
making turn the Louisville around too. But sir, he came
around make sure make sure that uh Wake Forest was
the top priority for me too as well.
So hell of a scout, hell of a coach.
Yeah, a cool dude, man, come on, man, getting the
bill back right for short y'all had a crazy introduction
to college though for both of y'all obviously what happened
to RP coach processes. But what was that, Like I'm saying,
linking up getting on campus and then deal with that
before you get into school or school even start.
For real, I was I was one of the most like.
Overwhelming I thought, I think that college ever was at
that time. Bro, Like after that happened, I'm like, there's
nothing else really that can go on that can like us.
Yeah.
Yeah, So even even even that alone was like playing
pressure free because we knew, like deep down our loyalty.
I mean that we deserve this for our.
Loyalty because anybody you could have just left, you knowee
what I'm saying with no penalty or the portal and
all this shit.
They got going on.
Now, it's like you leave now it's good money, but
you you you leave back then you said now the
year you know what I'm saying. But that wasn't the
case for us, Like we got to go to choose
any school we wanted to and with no no penalties
of trading schools or whatever.
So I think it was our loyalty.
And like I said, after something like that happened, I
don't think nothing really can shake you in college.
Yeah, I remember the day you remember he took us
to McDonald's that nigga drunk out my shape, no disrespect
r I P.
He drunk out my shake. I was sitting in the front.
He was like, my points, God got to be in
the front, you know what I mean? So JJ and
he was in the back and he drunk out my shape.
I remember.
I was like when he drunk my shake and j
J was like, that's his shake. Now after that you
passed away. I was like, Ship, I don't want no
more shakes, Like that's crazy.
And not just be yeah how long?
Like oh Ship? He didn't.
We had went to he dropped us off. We went
up to uh study tables. He went to his office
and they was like he was running on the track.
He's been there for an hour. They came and got us.
Damn bro. I never considered transferring.
I did because I only knew coach battle Yeah and
coach Prosser. I never met coach Kelson. Now and I'm like, ship,
who's gonna be the coach? They like coach Gattio.
And there was bulches out there happened like I'm getting
text message from other coaches like yo, come here and
come to our school.
You'll play this.
I'm like, damn, they ain't even checking out or nothing
like you to pull up sad for sure, But I was.
I ain't no coach Gattio at all. But we all
thug it up. Yeah.
Me, I was with Pat Kelsey the whole time, like
and everything. Man, I ain't no, I ain't no Gaudio.
What was next up?
I remember they just had us at coach p house
for like five hours. They didn't tell us nothing, you remember, right,
they were just down there eating pizza Chrispy Krean all
type of ship.
You know.
I'm a kid at the time, eighteen, Yeah, like this
ship cool like bang telling us. So we just think
we having a good that time of coach pls And
they finally told us like Damn.
That's nuts, bro, man, that's crazy to start your college
screw off like that before I even get into like
real campus life and shi like that.
That was crazy. Damn did I fuck with the new coach.
At first, it was always cool.
With me with him, that's gay, get along game. I
noticed Will, what's he going to do with this? It
was like I ain't fucking got.
No, but he was.
He was so good though.
Jeff was so good, like it was undeniably like you're
supposed to be starting.
I'm knocking nobody, like they know how we feel.
This all about yeah, but now Jeff was always always
better than everybody real, like he do moves what they
used to call you by any means necessary.
He used to call means necessary.
I don't know Jeff like that, but he used to
get a bucket any way on five on one, you
know what I mean. So it was like people looked
up to Jeff, but Jeff was always silent, like you
had to really know Jeff. I think the person who
got the best Jeff for real is it is Gary Clark,
his roommate, another fellow fresh like him and g like
shared a different bond, but me and him we shared
the were the best player on the team bond. And
there's how we carried it this year. It was like
it was like it was like me have pushed each
other in that sense, and then we upstairs late night
playing one on one the gym only ones, and that
we be in there Saturdays Fridays till three in the morning,
two in the morning playing once you know what I mean.
So it was always mutual. But like I said, L. D.
Williams was was was great for us. Is Smith obviously
an NBA legend as well in my heart the game
with his speed and all that.
He's a student of the game, all that. Chase Alfarok.
Obviously Al Fruit came in with our Fruit came in
all right, there was there was no longer two best players.
Came into that. Now we had three best players.
Were different. We carried a different bond too. Like I
remember when Al Fruit came on his visit. He came
on his visit and I was what they called chaperone.
He was a guy to his guide or whatever man.
He probably stand wake Forest was giving it up like
that at the time. But right when he got there,
I think he saw a football football fight, two girls
fighting the hallway. You I mean, I ain't gonna say
who picked that up? That's good you got it back.
It was crazy, it was. He was not ready to
go out.
He was like yo, coming away.
We knew he was coming.
Remember a white dude, Ryan Kelly came through and we
had all them fights.
Yeah, m going, we had like ten fights. Bro.
He ended up going to Duke though. We heard Yeah,
Ryan Kelly, you scared of the ship out, you know.
But it wasn't much. It was wake force.
Like I never said that about.
Even know was it wasn't just basketball, Yeah, niggas. What
all from Florida? Uh yeah, I mean all from Florida,
my niggas. It was wild enough.
About all the fights.
It was hello fights. It was Hello fight. We were
just talking about what downstairs, but it was hell yeah.
It was fights. Mutual respect and uh, how was our
relationship with the football team? Niggas was cool?
I mean me and Jeffly, you know.
I mean, I'm gonna go through the first because he
made us cool with the football team because they kept
calling me Mike Conley when I first got there, Oh lord,
and I was like, y'all stop calling I don't like
that ship and uh, me and j J and G
we was all just starting to get cool, like we're
just starting to figure each other out. And dude called
me Mike Conley again, and I got shitty and JJ
was like, Hey, my nigga, if you call me Mike
Conley again, gonna beat your ass.
And football nigga like what nigga? And the l D
was like, nah, he'll beat yours. He was like He's like, here,
beat your ass, dude. Chill. That's how we got cool
with the football players.
Okay, okay, but then all of them turned out young
in turn.
But good guys, good character, a lot of chip bond
that's my brother, Aaron Curry.
Yeah, a c ac even Fawns. Man.
I know a lot of people going, I'm gonna get
backlashing that with the basketball.
But Smith was cool, great human. Oh man.
Obviously your freshman year, I get in there. You know
what I'm saying, y'all get active. I have a little
bit of success. But let's talk about going into that
second year where it got real. Y'all was nasty. What
was that feeling?
Like?
Man?
Shit, Jeff made us feel untouchable for real, No, no bullshit,
I mean, like, keep it a being like we went
to Collige. I think we went to California right that
seventy six classic.
Yeah, Anaheim Classic or whatever. Jeff went crazy, yo. One
of the dudes were watching my films. This thinka jumping
out the gym? What do you play for Bullerton Coah,
I forget the brother's name, but some was bouncy. So
Jeff get a still. I think you get a still.
Some are rebound. He take off, Jeff take off on
Bro punch him. I think after that, everybody knew he
was gonna win that tournament. Like there was mad teams
there too. We didn't, but like I said, Jeff led
the way with that and h our sophomore year. He
was a killer man, all them accolades, everything that that
shit was well deserved, especially like our team.
You know what I mean, we were stacked, y'all start
off no more.
Nah, we start off like twenty five. Damn we got
to one though.
That's because of them though they was they was special, bro,
Like our practices, we all was assholes in our own
right right, always like assholes. Like one thing about JJ,
he always practiced hard. It was give it, give me
a day or two.
I'm like, you know it always there's no practice all
knowing day.
You can't be a practice all American Jack.
He always practiced hard and he rolls the level of
practice every day. But he you see his energy. He
always talking. He always was like the vibes and our
freshman year he was like that. So now I know
him as a sophomore. So they always just rolled like
they made me better player. They did that like I
knew they was going to the NBA.
He came back. He was supposed to go his freshman year.
He did me a favorite, you know what I mean.
I begged it, Pauls. But i begged this nigga.
Out to leave.
I'm like, yo, if I'm a first round pick, I'm like, yeah,
but gonna win this chick, Ye're like, yeah, you gotta
come back. Bro, We're gonna be good and we're gonna
be nasty. Like t I can't do it, bro. He
called me, like I'm gonna come back. I'm like, for real,
Like ship, if you be asking what was that? What
was that decision making process for you? Like obviously could
have went to the league as before, and what made
you come back?
You know, when you're young, you're naive, you know what
I mean? Like I was naive to the fact that
like we really win this mall. Like I've always been
that way, like anything with anything, Like I really believe
we could have won that, mom, and that's why I
came back like about that, like and winning it with
my brothers too, Like the fellow fresh was something fish
that that's what Jeff Gary myself, that's what. That's what
we called each other whatever. But man, we was fishy like.
Yeah, and we thought and we thought Gary was gonna
play more. He had a burner.
Burner.
Gary had a burner, one of the best.
Like, he's one of them dudes that, Like I said,
if Jeff and I was playing one on one side
of the court, he on the other side of the
court with the chair going around the chair and getting
looked up, I'm like, damn, this nigga dedicated.
Why didn't he Probably what was what was the issue
with politics?
I don't know, he just never.
I think they liked Harvey Hell better honestly, and he
was older.
Yeah, but.
Harvey Hell shouldn't have been playing over respectfully.
I think that.
Just say respect How did you sen would have been
if it was in il Are, Wow, because y'all all
would have been you know what I'm saying.
His sophomore year, he probably insane. You probably getting seven
million dollars bro. No, after your Probably I.
Probably would have been in trouble summertime.
For what.
I mean that like these kids nowadays, they got they
learned about this, you know what I mean, Like we
didn't learn about that ship coming up or even.
Or even while we was there.
In fact, now they're getting this so Paul, so so
so fast that they're prepared. Their parents are preparing them
for it, they got managers preparing them for it. Yeah,
you know what I mean, shout out to them. Obviously
they should be getting this bread. But but they're more prepared.
I think they're far more advanced and what we were
in social.
Media this era.
They're light years ahead of us at that age, you
know what I mean.
In fact, they getting paid the hogspital about something at
the college. They didn't a millionaire, right y'all don there? Yeah,
but rightfully so you would have definitely got seven million.
Y'all would have had to have a UK pay roll, bro.
We probably be honest. He probably wouldn't have been that
way for.
Us now because wait, force pays you with education.
Yeah, he probably people to go there and get that,
but they ain't got chaw.
It's scrimming shots to the horn air.
But I think y'all would have been like at that
time and if they got like this knowledge now, y'all
niggas would have been gazillionaires.
Bron to keep them bro, how are you gonna know?
James Johns ain't no Jeff t ain't no Alpha walking through?
How I know I ain't even keep b yu or
tell you don't take.
Would have been different.
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Oh yeah, they like looking at the n I l like, well,
your rookie deal would have been there. That's why you
would have been straighted of coming.
Out facts the number two three picks they get sixty six. Yeah,
they get way more, little bit different. It was before
I did eight years, eight years.
For sixty years.
Oh god, I crossed some niggas can run.
But I don't know. I think they would have made
that shake bro. Yeah, but every school in Carolina would
have pulled together kick out, say.
Yeah they're the like hey yeah brother, no Carolina, my brother,
we got six milks.
They change their Thursday for US boys would have left.
But that back of my jer bureau. So that's a hormocoust.
It was, man, But I want to talking about your
sophomore legendary run, Like what was that? Like we always talked, Jeff,
but it was like that day that y'all beat North Carolina, Man,
because that was a crazy game.
Man, That ship was standard real, Like I felt like
we were the better team, and I mean I don't
I don't believe better coach, but were a better team.
Facts that was it was like even when we beat Doupe,
Jeff didn't want nobody running on the court like he
felt like I felt like that ship was normal, Like
you know what I mean. We were supposed to do that.
The court.
That was our freshman year though, rushman year. We were
supposed to be yeah, not the first second year, which
you're wrong on the court for that was offensive.
Fact.
Who was the harder team? We was number one in
the country.
That's a fact.
Carolina harder than do at that time.
Carolina, like all the Dukes spoke or whatever they say
with the that's I don't think that's that should bother you.
N They was beating our ass there.
Yeah, which still grew like thirty cu We came back though,
but we was getting thirty Yeah, it's it got rocking
in the moth.
I don't remember we started. We came back but too late. Yeah,
it's just too late. We came back.
Cameron the doorboy man, I wanted to talk to you
about school, like being asked school before we get out
of the college par like I told the story.
One here one day about us going to mind class.
People thought Vin I wanted you to tell because he
was in my class.
M hm they put James Rico. I n't know. This
is the truth. He was in my class, yo.
So you had to you had to put a mask
on and then you become the character.
You know what I'm saying.
So like you like lose yourself to this world or whatever,
and we had to do mine like mine. I don't
know what they called it. Yeah, can sound about right,
yeah on the chair, okay, anyway, long story short, my mess.
It was his it was his turn to go up whatever. Men, Yeah,
my man, it was it was his turn to go up.
So he get up there and I'm telling you what
the bigger he was killing this Thigga said.
He I'm like niggas believe in.
The little step thing like you.
I mean, he was on man, he was. He was
getting that easy tred. He right over there.
Oh yeah, he was like and then you know how
they forget about it and then he want make oh
yo was like that was something like himself, like you know,
Jeff to him, Yeah two cools a great one too, nah,
But he's always to himself to watch him get out
of himself to do that.
Man, big I was in that joint like nothing but ship.
We had hip hop dance class again.
Oh yeah, hip hop, Yes, for.
Like seven in the morning. Step was crazy. The routine
was crazy.
Oh man, that's hilarious.
Bro. Hey man, I know Jewalkee's underground hilarious shouts of
white man.
It made a weapon Milwaukee.
I was, hey, I'm not as good as that. All right,
remb we need some drinks where we keep going? Man, Barbie,
where you're at, Where you're at? Shout out to bar
what will be? How you living? Sat?
Know what we got today for the enforcer? Okay, okay,
it's the five twenty some word cups. Shout out to
the merch for sure.
Salute man.
Yeah, man, Yeah, y'all wait, I told you all the time,
y'all Waite team needed thirty for thirty bro, especially all
the like the success all y'all had, like you're talking
about y'all talking about is talking about all y'all went
to the league? Man, what was that moment like for
y'all was like, all right, we're up out of here.
Did y'all know like collectively or did I just find out?
I let him tell him you first? What's funny? Shit?
As soon as that fourth quarter set the half rate.
On Fronday.
What I walked up the next morning, Bro, Me and
Gary Gary like man we got were talking about class
and ship.
I'm like, man, damn, everybody like where Jane's like ship
calling j j where you at? He said, I'm in Cali.
Brother, you can have all the ship in my room.
He's like, yeah, I left the keys in the drawer
on my truck. That good luck to you, boy, I said,
day I wouldn't have got that truck. I was rolling up.
I was about to get that one more time. Jay
win it keep everything.
I never.
Very story to god. Bro, he said, tell for roop man.
They can have them shoes and ship on the doors
in there.
Oh hear, like they just go to his room. We
just got the door open in the door room just
wide up. Damn they ain't there grabbing all the jays
and ship.
Damn.
You was considering coming back.
Yeah, I was thinking about coming back because I didn't
know like they was first round pick. They was guaranteed.
I wasn't at first. Then U Evember he was. He
was going already. I had that call with the the
coach and stuff, and he sucked up letting me hear that.
Yeah, they're all gonna get picked in the first round, said.
I'm going, Lord, I was hyping. My boy told me coming.
I was like, oh, Paul is that I was.
No.
I wasp when I got that phone call. He was
going to go to the league with me and all that.
So and we did it. I always loved telling that story,
like we came to wait for us together, we left together.
Bro hell, Yeah, man happened for sure. Man had campus rocking.
What was that like for you?
Man?
That process to get drafted and actually, you know what
I'm saying, beneficially b a player, man walking across that stage.
That ship was hard as how I'm talking about. I
think I had like ten eleven workouts. Some I repeated,
like I went back to the same team twice we
work out, workout. Those workouts was tough. Phoenix and uh Toronto.
Oh I heard that Toronto workout brutal too nasty work.
I heard it was brutal.
Man, I'm talking about back and forth layoups, right hand,
left hand.
Damn hers like a drill. Crazy? Really you do damn
full court layups? Yeah? That sounded and ship.
End of the story. I ain't go to Toronto. It
was harder Ship to get in that hofucker anyway. I
was like, man, where you have your best workout?
No?
I love Toronto.
Where'd you have your best workout after? You feel during
that time? And damn I could probably come here.
Ship.
I had a couple Charlotte. I thought I did I
thought I did well in Charlotte.
Yeah.
I thought I was going to Charlotte for sure. Coach
Ryne he was doing more teaching. That's why I loved
his His whole workout.
Was he was teaching us.
He wasn't even were It wasn't even about the the
athleticism or the talent for real. He wanted to see
if you could pay attention and lock in with that
kind of you know what I mean.
I thought I was going there. I didn't have to
show too much.
But I ended up going to the Bulls and a
stual was a blessing sixteen pick.
I take it every time.
Yeah, being a bull about you got one of the
best draft class of all time, especially top to bottom.
Looking at all the Hall of Famers, all the success people. Yeah,
I wanted.
Legendary class boys still getting to it. Man, I remember
when you got drafted.
I called. I called you. I was he got drafted.
I was still waiting. I called him.
I was like, damn, nigga, you got draft sixteen hyped.
He was like, you up next, nigga. You know you
gotta know you're about to get hype when they call
your name.
Because going to Philly Drew, he was like, damn.
He was looking out.
He's like about that ship. Don't you about your time
coming in? I'm gonna call you when they call your name.
I was like, oh ship, I got nervous as fun.
Then they called me my name at nineteen. He called
me back like I.
Told you were in this walk I was. I just
thought he might going back to back. It's about to
be tough, he said. Damn.
I already knew it though. That season, that sophomore season
was that ship was an epic ground for you.
Brother, Nah, I man appreciate it, man, Yeah, man, I
was really hooping for I know we ain't gonna hart put
too much, but I was really like whooping ship. Like
the way that y'all was doing on it. Bro fel
like like a real nigga you team. That's why everybody
was rocking with.
In fact, that's what b Why you trying to say,
oh ship that ship on wax too.
It was on the papers.
They were like, yo, do nothing but and one playing.
They don't got no stability ability.
It's crazy. Wow.
While we was putting the belt on them, the fan section, everybody,
yeah want that they have to stop the game and
all that, like wow, the coach, their coach came out.
Like, yo, let the boys play.
Hey.
I ain't never went to a gym. It was all
white people with white shirts on.
Oh that looked crazy in there, look crazy. They looked crazy.
That's a fact there.
Yeah, we was like we walked in there. We all
was just looking like that was different. Did he play?
Did he play good? Again? Y'all knowing?
But before that, I ain't never seen no one do
like a T shirt day in college they had all
T shirts.
So it was crazy like though he probably had like
twenty five. Yeah he was valid that night. Damn.
But was that your most environment hard covered guess?
Yeah, why you have none for y'all? All? That was environment.
The worst for me was probably in C State mm hm,
he state. That was that was crazy.
What they had postals, niggas and j J.
Hicks, That's what he was. It was nasty, but he
stated that was ruthless.
Bron You see what murderous runoff for real for If
you look at that time period, Bro, you had all
the heavy hitters out there. Yeah, Maryland was bad too,
basket Maryland was. The fans was crazy too, grievous, went crazy.
What it was like, man, with some of your best nounk,
you didn't one of your business. I'm gonna tell you
all about a game while we're in college. I remember
my boy, we u you punched on Trevor Booker.
Right book talent. It was crazy. It was a wild team, Bro,
I love this nigga crazy.
Once a Clemson then Yeah, that nigga's crazy, man, all love.
We had one of the cooldest teams to man. Yeah,
it was the coolest to remember the treble Booker, I
did you know what Clemson? Yeah, after all Brooklyn too.
Yeah. Now you was killing that game up. You had
thirty fifty rip oh yeah, was out fifteen shooting at
the shining to get the rebound. You had four sisters team.
Yeah, he was efficient, that's official.
He was cooking.
Started within the system.
That's number twenty three.
Board.
That's tough on what I was getting to it? Man,
what's a rookie year?
Like?
Man, how many points I had that game? He got
fifteen rebounds and.
Was getting on that glass, especially what you call that
give you a fifteen I'm about to stay there.
I don't get looked at.
Yeah, I find a double chip from my copy fifty monster.
Yeah it was kind of nice, now, YO chased before
y'all was hooping, bro, y'all had a.
Squad man that nigga for real?
Man?
Yeah, what was rookie like?
You're like, man, you got a chance to play one
of our favorite players. I mean everybody like Derrick Rose
and he was cold. I remember you talking to me
about Derrick Rose, your rookie year, you like, bro cool
as hell?
He cold?
I was like, damn he cold? He's like cold, bro,
he cool as fucked though. He kept saying that like
me a cool and I was like, damn, for real,
what was your rookie year?
Like, bro, Man, rookie year? I have Annie del Negro
and I swear he ain't playing me because he went
to NC State.
You know what I mean?
That's bro, That's what I felt.
But it started off with it like I'm playing summer
league first, right, I feel like I'm one of the
best players. Obviously, summer league and regular season even some
of the league and preseason is two different level.
For sure, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, but even then preseason came, I felt like I
was still one of the best. And you know, every
team I've ever been on, I've been that nigga or
one of them that niggas what I'm saying. And so
I get I get there, I get to Chicago and
I feel I still feel like that. You know, my confidence,
I really feel like it's through the roof. It mean,
my work atic all that. So I get there first
thirty forty games, I don't even play.
I was right with you, brother, at all, I.
Don't play, and I got great guess too. Like Brad Miller,
Kurt hyin Ray, Derek always was like, keep me humble
with it, like, bro, look where you at. You know
before before Derek was the philosopher that these guys know,
Like I know that the young just second in the league.
Derek, you know what I'm saying, still was kicking knowledge
even that young.
I feel like that's why Lou said what he said,
Joe Kim said what he said a bottom about even
though he was younger, that they still listened to him
like he was older and felt like he was older
the way he spoke.
You know what I'm saying.
So, but anyway, I'm with him, keeping he keeping me
humble with it. But at the end of the day,
I'm young. I got more money than I ever had
in my life.
You feel me, and I'm going out. Yeah, I'm going outside,
like for really real.
And you know you you young, like I said, naive,
so you feel like you damn they're punishing them, you're
not playing you and not not giving you this opportunity
and all that not knowing you sabotaging yourself and your
self worth.
You know what I'm saying.
You know they say the less you've seen the more,
the more money you get paid for your appearance. You
know what I'm saying. I was the opposite. I'm going
I'm going to the spots for free, you know what
I'm saying. And that shit was really the start of
a of a bad side of the league where you
don't want to be in. You knowee what I'm saying.
Right where they start getting opinions and and shit starts
getting fabricated and you can't stop. It's a snowball fact.
But long story short, that shit came with it. And
then Lou gets hurt. Dang gets hurt. I get my opportunity,
I start playing. I'm playing well, but I'm still young
and dumb. Yo, you get what I'm saying. I'm still outside,
I'm still wilding and I'm playing at this point. So
it's like, yo, all I gotta do at this point
do everything I love to do with who you know
what I mean, work out, go inside, repeat you gee
know what I'm saying. And uh wait, so you're still
going outside every night?
Man? You got that t.
Man, I'm outside. I keep n okay, I'm outside every night.
I'm getting I'm getting real, you know what I'm saying,
funny shit like, so so I'm doing that while I'm
while I'm getting the minutes now that I want it.
But now I'm coming back and uh the next day,
shoot around, I'm smelling.
Wow, you know what I mean.
Like, you can't brust that ship off. You know what
I'm saying.
You can't shower that ship off soon as you start
sweating outside, I mean yeah, yeah, so I don't know this,
you know what I mean, I'm not aware of this.
And then you know, the older guys is telling me, oh, Jay,
like you gotta stay away from coaches.
You gotta do this.
They're doing their due diligence as far as like being
great vets like it had nothing.
To do with them doing this shit to myself.
You know what I'm saying, thinking I'm hurting something that really, nigga,
all they do is just get another asset. You know
what I'm saying, I'm not realizing that. I'm thinking the
NBA need James Johnson. No, nigga, James Johnson need the lead.
And so that ship, that ship right there was It
was an eye open especially after your first year, you know,
back in the g like you signed two years, two
years guaranteed and the other one is a team option.
But after your first year, that's where they decide if
they're going to keep your option.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So I'm going into the team meeting, They're like, yo,
we don't want to do this, but you work hard.
You know the normal like threatening, get your shit together,
we want you and all that. But by that time,
it was too far gone down Vinnie Negro's gone, Thibodeaux comes,
you know what I mean. Thibodeau's coming on fresh off
of championship, so he knows from defense head coach Championship.
You know what I'm saying with Doc, like it has
pedigree on him. So it's like he knows what he's
talking about. This and net on first day of practice,
some put me on the Penny team and back then
there is no two ways and nothing like that. Penny
team is the niggas that's trying to make a team,
trying to make that last spot.
You know what I'm saying.
And I'm guaranteed at this time, So I'm like, he
don't know me from nothing. This is before I knew TIBs.
Like as a man, well, I respect Tis with everything,
you know what I'm saying, Like Tips is a great
coach and a great human to me, like I have
go with TIBs. But at that time, like he's trying
to raise the nigga that was already raised by something
far more worse than him. You know what I'm saying,
my father far more worse than you. So them intimidation
ship that don't scare me. You gee, what I'm saying,
but anyway, get traded from there, go to Toronto.
I'm in Toronto. I'm in Toronto loving it. I'm getting
getting a chance. My first game Toronto was against the Bulls.
Let's start, we get that dub, you know what I mean?
Coach coach Traill J Traill j T.
He was like, uh yeah, yeah, I love that guy.
He's the one who really gave me my first chance
to like go get a bucket, go hoop, Like, don't
look at me when you make mistakes and ship, because
you know this this game will cause anxiety and niggas,
Like if you let it break you. You know what
I'm saying, You let that ship break you. Every time
you grab the ball, like your eye is gonna get wild.
You just want to make the right play. You don't
want to fuck up all that ship. So it's like
if you let it break you. They're psychiatrists in the
buildings for ship like that. God know what I'm saying.
That's the interesting you say that because they always talk
about people who transition the league is, oh, he was
so good in college here all this stuff, Why is
he only doing this particular role. It's just like dog,
he doing this wrong because he's trying to feed his family,
but he's trying to make sure he make this next time. Yeah,
he can do all that ship. He trying to do
this and not mess up, and that can just kind
of limit your game.
Try to do that at a high level and then's
still mixing.
Yeah, you know how it is.
But that ship is taxing, especially on your mind frame.
But like I said, if you let it break you
in the psychiatrists for ship.
Like that, I fucked.
I fucked with the journey because I would say me
and you close, I knew it, and I remember, I
remember when things been a little different and you came
to the Hawks, remember and we was talking.
You was trying.
I was like, damn, JJ gonna be on the Hawks
on me because he made he was on the team.
But my nigga is so competitive, he was about to
make the team, so competitive. They love him. Be him
talking to me like JJ, man, this is what we
was missing. It's the perfect piece. But we go play
baseball and this dude we call him good at everything,
like we call him we say he's he's great at life,
like he does everything well. So I didn't know this
need to play baseball right, So we playing baseball. I'm okay,
Kyle Korps, real good, all these guys. It's a pop
fly ball, boom outfield, JJ. Coach Budd about to get it.
He loved baseball. This is primary sport.
JJ. Let me get that. Coach Bud like he can't
play here? What he was?
You know he was shight what so this was for
out three. I'm not sure his old ass even sold.
Me.
I'm a better on myself. I'm anna, man, mean, he
should have sawd the aspect on that side spectrums was
but even wrong.
But you know you're wrong.
But I remember the day I know we I'm fast
forward in your career because I want to talk about
Memphis part when you went to Memphis, because he really
turned up. But I remember when we played Miami. He
was in Miami and you hooping, he running the pick
and roll seventy seven, doing his ship. And I remember
coming to the bench, you know, I was, I asked.
I was like, god, damn, we could have had that
ship it and Coach said, fucked up, funked up. I
fucked up, that's wuck up. And you might say something
to you. And I came up to me because he
was just like, he's like, he's such a good player.
These are the players that you need. He's going to
change the game. It was him and Draymond. He was like,
they're like point guards that play the four position. You
can put them on anybody you can. And he was
just giving Jack so much praise. And that was.
Just like the NBA is bro And that's that's why
I said, that's why I'll because niggas wouldn't know. That's
why niggas don't be in certain places, like Nigga, I'm
way better than you at baseball. Don't make this about
me being on this fucking team.
You know, I'm shitty. He knows, Nigga. Everybody was, Yeah,
he's gotta.
Need more pig for a catching.
Nigga need to be behind the bat a man. He
got for real.
Everybody, like the whole coaching staff was hype about I
was hype.
NBA, especially after training camp. I'm like, yo, I got
my guard back playing. That's for getting out.
Yeah, we got charge for that.
But to me, it's a great thing because I think
you went to a place really find your your skill
set and showed you what you do really well. He
went to Miami turned up.
Yeah.
Now after Atlanta, I went to Memphis. Yeah, and that's
what I really turned up for a little. You put
on a show in Memphis.
I was having a ball in Memphis, and they let
you cook, They let you play your right right some
of them highlights, bro crazy?
How was that going there? Though?
They embrace you right away. Yeah, most definitely.
Like I said, like you can carry baggage with you, right,
it's good. All of mine was pretty much bad. It
was like, you know what I mean, I'm at the
into my end. I just went to Atlanta, tried out
for the team, got cut gear me so like I'm
in the G League playing, and then Memphis ten day
when I went there, it was like more like they
wasn't judging me. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It
was more like, you know, how bad can this nigga be?
Man?
We got we got Zach Randolph and Tony Allen. He sure,
And I think I jailed with I jailed with the team.
I jailed with the management just off the strength of that.
Like you know what I'm saying. They didn't look at
me like the the person everybody else or the other
gems might have passed on or whatever.
It was more like, No.
That's what their culture is about over there, you know
what I mean. But they do teach you how to
be a professional obviously. I mean they got ways around.
That for sure.
Yeah that's Jeff around too much. We talked about Miami Heat, sure,
heat culture. A lot of that is old to you,
if you know, you know for sure, what is that
moment like making a South beach you know I'm saying,
having some real successful years down there?
Man, man, nah it was. You know.
I give a lot. I give a lot of credit
to you, Dannis.
I always I always have because he held a standard,
you know what I mean. He wouldn't let you saddle
over there. I'm talking about with anything for the single niggas,
you know what I'm talking about. He helped y'all out
the club for real a lot of times.
That's real though. Championships, respect and beyond that obviously.
But he's one who really like showed like how to
be tight knit and trust each other because you know,
the league is all about. Yeah yeah, I trust you,
but I want your minutes. Yeah yeah, I trust you,
but I want you to fuck up.
You know what I'm saying.
And I feel like he was already above that by
winning the championship and understanding what it took to be
a champion. So I think off Rip obviously everybody in
the gym, when everybody on the team had no respect
for him, but being able to to play basketball. And
even this is like even during the like the pickup days,
you know, the pickup days before the presiear starts and
even all that shit starts, so like it's pickup days
and coach out there like YEO, whoever the best players,
that's what's gonna play. You fee what I'm saying, Like,
you know, we came in and O nine, it wasn't
always the best player was gonna play with the nigga
was getting the most money play exactly like you could
be ten times better than the person making at this
time fifteen fifteen million dollars for three years, four years.
That was big chicken, great money back then. And so
and so you finally get to the heat where they're like, yo,
you get to play your brand of basketball, and if
you're the best player, I hear you going to play now.
I think everybody felt a way about that where it
just brought out the best and everybody on top of
ud obviously harping on like we bill champions, heare we
champions around here, and I wanted to win one of
them so bad, so bad over there, especially especially for you.
Donna's Like I feel like for u, d I think
he wanted us to win it more for us, more
than we wanted to win it. More for us, you
know what I'm saying. So that should show you, like
the humility he has and a given kind of person
is gonna at the time, he was thirty six too,
like thirty six, thirty seven, Oh yeah.
Like twenty sixteen, sixteen, twenty seventeen.
Yeah, oh, but that's not that to me. That's not
like old the hoop, you know what I'm saying, Like
to me, like I signed with the team and I'm
thirty six, thirty seven. I think if I have a
good training camp, I give myself a chance.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you played he was
forty two, boy, damn.
Yeah, because he got second running seventy sevens with dragons,
go live the White Side and uh picking rolls and
handing the ball off Dwayne Ellington, Tyler Johnson. Of course,
that's my fans that's my man's man's like you know
what I mean, the Johnson name says says enough, But that's.
My mansle Whiteside was crazy. He was who man, he
was nasty bro.
He's really the one who changed the whole like body
fast ship like that nigga came in inhumane. He was like
seven foot tall two fifty four four or five percent
body fat. Niggas was like, yo, dunk, he's a dunk everything.
And then also everybody ship had had to get down
past that. It was like you used to be alright
with seven that don't need you ass six?
That ship really like that, man, what you didn't believe it?
I mean I believe it, but I'm talking about well,
I'm so fucked up that even if I look at
the scale, I know I pictured Miami heat.
Locker room. You know me, You don't me j C.
My should always been bad.
I can't go a week without without working out or something.
Ship that's that I'm like a half somen so I
think like that part of me that should get big
quick for sure, too quick. So like I always had
a thing about that. But that that ship is when
you got there though they're finding you they're losing bread
damn because you're eating crazy.
It's crazy broke cut their on what I'm saying about.
They hold you.
To a standard though that that even yourself didn't didn't
know you was capable of. You know what I'm saying,
And that's one thing I will say about my That's
why I feel genuinely that's why they can get second
round picks and no, no, not not drafted at all
and then make gym.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's definitely evident as well, because, like you said,
a lot of people who go to Miami where was
getting that ship off?
Man?
Where he was you on whop you're gonna get on
this court? He did not discriminate at all.
That's what I'm saying.
They give everybody a shot, so I naturally feel like
that brings the best out of you, naturally because you
have a shot to play, not off off of anything
else that goes on around the bubble of the league. Strictly,
Am I a better basketball player than this guy on
my team?
You know, we move around a little bit. What was
one of your favorite season to play?
I'm always gonna love Toronto Chicago obviously, you know what
I mean. You get drafted in Chicago. I feel like
you're a kid. You grow up watching Jordan's so yeah,
you get there. You see all the the trophies, is Jersey,
the banners, and just automatically feel like this is what
you're supposed to be. You know what I mean, you dreamed
about shit like that. So I think the bulls for
sure of Miami. Obviously still love Miami. I still live
in Miami. Beautiful city.
In Memphis, I'm gonna have a Memphis.
Yeah, Doegh said, you go through, Okay, load it up.
My got here James Man, I wanted to question.
Yeah, well my favorite highs you bro.
Yeah, drumming my man's now, but.
Smoke drummer my man's now.
But yes he did me bogus over head boy. I
almost had to.
Bring a nigga out. I buried you. Yeah, they came back.
Yeah he was wild right here, look at my god,
you know what mean?
Look I get up calmly. I don't want to commentate
this because you know, like.
I said, but yeah, that was that's my first.
I understand why he did it. I didn't understand why
you think it was all right?
That's fun to.
Grow up, Tardie base Lie Slipper. I was like, damn boy,
he's a brave boy.
You know.
I respect that though, respect that way more them type
of players right there.
Yeah, like we men.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We men, you're making
a play. You're making a play.
It's more of a raw ray your team up while
we're scared of this team, while we getting thug bullied
by this team. So like as a basketball player, I understand,
like I said, but we cleared up other ship.
I figured out.
I got a texted him, unifier.
It's crazy, crazy out of I love this man. I
want to talk about it. Man. Listen, man, I'll never forget. Man.
We played the Ackey Bucks man and shit got real tricky, man,
and they played in our face. Man, and then it
was only right man. They had to go get the
legend for our team.
Man.
When you pulled up to that, man, all things been
great ever since. Man, what wasn't like we got the
call to pull up in the city, man.
Ship, I was I was extounded, Like I said, bro,
I've seen the build up. I seen the first year
we was here.
Yeah, we didn't go to the off.
And then the second year we were like yo, we
were in this ship. You know what I'm saying.
You thought, y'all, I'll we wanted your to win just
for the city. But did you'll think y'all gonna really
want that game? Step trying hurt?
Yo?
How do you not think that that was hoping. He
was hoping, Bro run and his stories. Bro, I feel
like if it wasn't winning it, that was the only
other way. Yeah, Bro, there was only two outcomes. He
was gonna win a chip or that was going to happen.
You know what I'm saying.
Hot, Okay, see great players, great team all. Like the
way it was, the way he was, the way he
wanted to start the game. Like you know, normally you
know his game. Normally he's gonna get involved, get people involved.
He might give you you give me the open three,
I'm gonna take it and be honest, then I'm gonna spray.
I'm throwing it up exactly. Aggress was exactly. We've seen
this before.
Anytimes came out that aggressive, we was getting the dub.
History shows every time he came out that aggressive way.
The numbers keep it real.
But outside the unfortunately happened. That was I talk to
you all the time man. Obviously we ain't got a ship.
But that is one of the crazy playoff runs that
I ever got to witness, especially as a fan.
Like you been around it. What was a vibe like, man,
because I was just whooping everybody, Bro.
I'm telling you it was normal.
Especially Andrew like he like does a great job of
like he don't get too high too low because they
even killed killer, you know what I'm saying. Past obviously
you know his vibe. So like Tyrese, he was the
more of the one that was just like, yo, we
got this many more this mean you know what I mean.
But we've seen this ship over and over again, even
before this, this crazy run like what he did, what
he did in the Spurs in Paris, that's sixteen old,
thirteen old run by himself.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I mean, DJ talks
about it, y'all. Niggas had a chance, he did. We
had a chance. Player. I think they come they probably hadn't, Bro,
no way, you.
Know what I'm saying, y'all. I'm saying, y'all could have
if he didn't get hurt. That ship he's turned.
I'm saying is just look at look at the end
of the half. Look at after he got injured, and
see what the score is going into halftime.
No, I'm saying what I'm saying, think about these niggas.
Someone y'all could waitness motherfucker for real. Like we wanted
to win for the city for our show, we had
to do like we ain't known give me he asked, niggas,
but we had to create some ship for the show
just because DJ is such a we hate.
On each notxious too.
Yeah, we was pined every night.
He breaking he blowing. He's blowing on the show. Wow.
Nicks the other thing, that's another thing. It was like, yo,
everybody was bringing they best Martine that ship. That ship
Double A did every nation did Bro in the garden.
It was impressive. It was kind of like you watched
the game the other day Nicks and the Cats. Absolutely,
so what y'all did is basically what the Knicks did
to the Cat.
But the only thing is what how how many minutes
they had left? Like seven we had two?
Yeah, y'all did that ship like a crazy man.
I'm like, yeah, Bro eliminated that lead Bro in like
sixty five seconds.
Bro off on some dream shot man by everything. Double
double no j T no double.
Put in pain.
I'm after every practice he put in pain too, So
like to see them shits going. Like I'm telling you,
we're around each other, like we genuinely all fucked with
each other. It was more like we get to see
your work at it on a daily basin. Yeah, I
wish I would have I wish that reason get hurt.
I would like to see how that fourth quarter played out. Yeah,
that was a That was a hell of a series
for real basketball hit. It might not have been the
most attractive series because of the fans cause they Yeah,
but with basketball, that was a good series.
Man, that was I was amazing.
Like we even said it.
It was like, yo, whoever gets the first stand like
you know how, like you get the first role win,
you want likely to win this ship. It was more like, yo,
whoever gets the first two games? Like you got to
win two in a row to be able to win
this ship, you know what I'm saying, Like we would
have got one in two.
I felt like we would have won that ship. Yeah,
with confidence was crazy.
I was hoping bron these niggas really got the the city.
It's gonna be tough to recreate that.
Yeah, I was bringing people together that will never come together.
That's what you don't know. Nigga hoods and my town.
Was niggas was celebrated the nigga I was together, Bro, I.
Was most hated nigga in my city. Yes, from here,
I was the most hated nigga every side of town,
the whole ass nigga like niggas.
Kill each other.
All that ship from different hoods. Everybody was against this nigga.
Trust me, God told me anything about Indiana. I'm talking
about love where they're from. So I heard every story.
I I knew way before he even.
What I'm telling.
All the stories like that is proud to be where
he's from. Nigga like they have your opinion on nothing
out here.
This nigga.
I'm like I had he niggas from.
What's up with your man? That some ship niggas was
telling me Jameson get on his ad. Wow, I have
to chill likeause DJ cover here on a while.
And we potted nigga every night, y'all. Y'all ship, y'all
kept the lights on the year. Ain't gonna lie you
guys kept the lights.
Now we did what I'm saying, y'all kept the content.
For sure, but that was lit.
I'm gonna let them niggas know and I see it.
So good times for sure. Man.
But while we're here, man s J looking like he
didn't were about to get another one. Man, you saw
the personal obviously. You know what I'm saying a little
bit like, is that.
Is that short for Wimby? You got in the winning
at all? Absolutely? Yeah?
He cold, Bro, Look that was early because me and
Mook said, Winn be the greatest we ever seen. Bro.
We I ain't never seen no shit like that. Bro,
I've never seen it either though. Yeah, that's all moving
like that.
But don't surprise you when you see the ship that
they even allowed to be seen, like the yoga all
his little work ethics is uh, what's those stretches and
all that the band work because all that before.
Yeah, we weren't doing all that, not at all.
I hated phone roll still do.
Damn I think phone roll.
If you phone roll like you're really fucked up a
little bit. Yeah, see what I'm saying. That ship every
time before you yetta be crazy.
Was with the monks in the summer, Bro, he said,
I'm locked the funking. You know he was about to
be sick.
You gotta stay healthy though, Bro, I don't think he's
gonna get forty one cold now.
But his deep in the Navy Seals. You trained with
either one of those groups.
Yeah, it's different.
Bring you trained you, man, People don't know. When you
got to Wake Forest you had to pick between kickboxing
or hooping. I know, because niggas you kick I'm about
get some money, But people don't know.
Man. You you really liked that. Your whole family like that.
Yeah, I got soft that week. You know you're chasing
that broad. Yeah you can't pop off like.
This is before the grams and all that Facebook, But
niggas wanted to posting Facebook like that.
You know what I mean?
She would use for other things.
My niggas about to get to it.
Yeah, growing up, training fighting always always allowed me to
be myself and hold my head high everywhere I go,
Like it always taught me like stay in the moment,
like enjoy the moment, enjoy and space. And I think
that ship helped a lot, tight in a lot to
like everything I do period in life, Like I don't
care if it's skateboarding. I want to be better than
Tony High, you know what I mean, being mex Bike
and I want to be better than Nigel. You what
I'm saying is like I have a problem.
I don't care like I have a problem with one
to be the best or be better than everybody I
hang out with, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like.
That's how he is too, though I gotta be wired
like that. Yeah, have some different kind of niggas for sure.
For sure y'all overly competitive for facts.
You should have seen us, bro. We argue about everything.
We used to argue, like when they put us on
different teams in practice, like he was gonna beat me
up one day. We just talking about it earlier about
with my ass like.
That in a gut screen, I said, a good stream
I was going have to resort to violence around me
grabbed my you know.
Like I don't know if you guys, but when you're
chasing you know what I'm saying, you can use the
big that sent the screen to like get around right,
and he like grabbed got around and like got low
obviously posed like going around.
He grabbed my knee.
I'm like, damn, nig you're trying to rip my knee out, Yo,
I forget what it might have been a walk on.
He got a bucket anyway, Coach got Coach got fired
up and all that and jumped like the.
Bitch as nigga like you talking my knee out, like yo,
fuck your mom's fuck that gang.
A gun screen to it was. It was.
I let him get around that motherfucker like it was
all that. I said, Oh yeah, I.
You looked at me, he said, after practice, see me.
And this is this this is during the holiday time,
like Christmas time, So niggas is not in the dorm
you said, hotel rooms at this point, they put you
in these hotels because no one's loutstare on the campus whatever.
Man, they almost got wacked up. I dreaded going knock
on that door.
Like I was like fighting myself back. I was all
woman down the nigga. Let it go, Jay your mind.
I ain't never let that past, never let that listen.
Bro, we got you know you're gonna throw no regulars.
I don't don't story. Bro. We get in, we get
out of practice.
So I'm acting like I'm still mad Gary like he
nigg when the practice open, niggn go a head and
run to the locker room.
I'm holding back.
You know you're scared, Like, ain't scared talking about niggas.
You better be that nigga. Man, we practice, biggas be
shooting around. I'm out right like nigga. I'm like, I
get my ship, my poor like you know, look poor
you like, I'm gonna take you back to the hotel, bro,
Man take the hotel JJ like Gary call me like,
j gonna get way of your room.
Bro, like ship? What was you so mad for the room?
That's yeah, let me tell you.
And you know, like when the walk ons is getting busy,
like rebound or they niggas gotta run for that.
Oh.
Speaking of running, that's when I found out Jeff was
really crazy, like crazy. We we were in practice, after practice,
we got suicides. Boom, everybody make the first one, everybody
make the second one. One of these niggas on the team,
I don't want to say his name, Jamie Skin. Yeah,
but we had one left, one left. This nigga was
not making it. I seen you remember that Taga Black.
I'm talking about shirt off rate of boxing thing, nigga.
I'm talking about we would.
Have a hop you Jamie Steen he wanted to rap tight.
He knows that.
You know, man, you ain't rapped. Oh god, Ja was
crazy to shout guy Jeff he was. I was mad
as though.
I was mad and he was winded to That's like, yeah,
you remember when we had to run the mile like
eight days to the scheme.
That's what I'm saying.
He was running big.
Like him off.
Nigga, we ran mouth all that.
Jeff never said nothing to nobody before that day.
That's crazy.
You gotta think he woo it with you, like two
fifty back then two forty five, two forty five, six,
two forty five. Right, this nigga ran the mound with
five forty five or something like that square is up there. Yeah,
so I had to run at five fifteen. I think
he ranning five forty five skiing had to make it
in six minutes, right, this nigga skeme. I love skiing, Bro.
He wasn't making that bitch at all. Nigga, we had
to run this shit like eight times coul of skin,
but we ain't realizing we ran the mile backwards because nigga,
we all was like.
Come on, skin, come on, skin, you make it.
Nigga.
We all running this bitch backwards in six minutes. He
finally making he die over the line, making like five
fifty nine. Everybody hype up whatever, and then coachmu was like.
You motherfucker's just running mile backwards. That's like and we
in some shape real fuck yo, Yo.
Remember when Harvey crossed the line, Hey, yo, Harvey, we
running the mind all right? I think it's see yeah
for him, yoh, he get to the last two hundred,
he had honey yards left, get to going like forty thirty. Yo,
A boy, the time he got the twenty, this nigga
whole body cramp, got a whole body cramp. My man
hit the floor. He even crossed the road. He couldn't
even do him that favorite like this niggas.
Rock.
Yeah, I do remember that ship boy had to go
get died. And this is how this is how New
Geary was a little wired different too.
He's like that even make it he a ready make
it like this crazy man y'all had one of the
funnest stay ever. That's the fun to hell Manna for sure,
definitely appreciate you for pulling up for sure. Yeah, for
we are here man telling people where they could find
a new pard Bro the new.
It's still in the works.
Oh you're still work.
But that means stay tuned, wait to wait for that
nothing soilent.
Man.
Be on the lookout for that on the way man,
I don't know what. Guy. Man on the way for
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