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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know the college football, college basketball, the whole conference that they had at the White House on Friday and the president there. You had fifty esteemed individuals who were there representing different different entities. You know, you have former coaches, you have TV executives. I wanted to know why not have a current coach and or current player or players because you are talking about them. Ross Dellinger, covering the event on Friday, Who's Sports senior college football reporter. What was your biggest takeaway from this on Friday?

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Speaker 3: Ross, Dan, I noticed that you let out an exhaustive sigh as you started to talk before you started talking about this event, and I would say that plenty of people in attendance probably had a similar sign after a rap up.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think the goal.

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Speaker 5: Of this event, Dan, was to bring attention to the issue by gathering all these important people, these dignitaries at the White House in front of the President.

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Speaker 4: So I think there was a goal of number one, bringing.

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Speaker 5: Attention to the issue, and number two, by way of bringing attention to it, maybe you put pressure on congressional lawmakers to push something through a college sports bill through the Congress, which is what the President wants. Has SETI once and I think actually it accomplished goal one. It certainly got people talking and had attention brought to it. Whether we'll get a college sports bill from it, I'm not sure. There's a fight in the Senate over a bill and a fight in the House right now. And there's a bill that probably could get to the floor of the House to govern college athletics as soon as next week, but I don't know that it'll pass. There's confidence it'll pass the House, there's not confidence, as we learned during the roundtable on Friday at the White House, that it will pass the Senate. So still a lot of hurdles. And of course, one of the things we've found out that was a little bit of a surprise Dan was the President saying he'll issue another executive order to govern college athletics. Not sure what will be in that, but he already issued one back in the summer, and it hasn't changed much about anything, So I'm not sure how this one will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if I'm wrong, tell me. But an executive order can't make a law, provide antitrust exemptions or override state laws or policies in the executive order, they can be challenged in court. So I don't know what's going to come out of this, if anything, But were are there any ideas? Any initiatives that were actually brought up in this roundtable?

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Speaker 4: Not anything novel or groundbreaking.

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Speaker 5: There was a good amount of time spent discussing the score Act, the college sports bill that's in the House that has twice failed to get to the floor because they didn't have the votes, and again that I think next week or maybe for the following week, we will see that finally move. There was a lot of talk about the score Act, and then there's a lot of talk from the president specifically about the judicial system, which you could tell he has sort of a vendetta against because of rulings that have come against him the last few months or so. So he he sort of blamed college sports current situation on on judges.

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Speaker 4: And on their on their rulings.

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Speaker 5: Uh So, No, they get back to your question, not a whole lot of novel concepts that that we learned. Uh, just college sports folks sitting around with the president, uh, complaining about judge in hoping for something to happen in congress.

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Speaker 2: Why not a current coach or current players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean I think a group of a small group of media.

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Speaker 5: We got a few questions and at the very end and someone did ask the president why there wasn't a current college athlete.

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Speaker 4: On the panel.

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Speaker 5: And he turned to Randa Levigne, who's the Yankees president who actually put together, sort of put together the roundtable.

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Speaker 4: And said that while there's no current.

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Speaker 5: Athlete now around this specific roundtable, that in the future, as this group continues, there will be athlete voices sort of joining in.

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Speaker 4: Apparently the group will continue, maybe not as big.

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Speaker 5: They're going to break off into sort of like a smaller subgroup I don't know, three, five, ten people to continue working with the legislature. That's the thing, Dan, that you read all that's accurate about the president in an executive order, he can't do a whole lot there's not a whole lot of power there need you need congressional actions. So this small subgroup of the roundtable will work with lawmakers to try to shape college sports legislation that you know, grants conferences in the NCAA the power to enforce their rules preempt these state in il laws and deems athletes is not employees. That's sort of the three main things they want to happen now for the casual fan, Dan, part of what they want is an anti trust exemption to enforce their rules around transfers in the cap, the salary cap that we have now in college athletics, in the movement just the movement of people transferring in eligibility standards. So that's how the casual fan might eventually see a bill come to fruition. Is so much pressure from all these eligibility cases that we've seen in the movement of transfers in college athletics.

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Speaker 2: What role does Nick Saban play?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think he's he's got a pretty big voice, number one, and for whatever reason, the president.

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Speaker 4: Wants him to play a very big role. He was you know, there was.

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Speaker 5: This commission or this roundtable that was put together with something last springing almost a year ago that kind of got out publicly, and the President wanted Nick Saban to char it, and Nick actually didn't really didn't want to be involved, and so somehow he got talked into being involved. Now at this at this roundtable, he certainly got a big voice and the President wants to be wants him involved. And you know, if you listen to Nick Saban, you know he's You've got a lot of good ideas. I think he's he's got other ideas that some athlete rights folks may disagree with as far as the restrictions imposed on athletes. And that's the real argument here, Dan, and that's why Congress can't get a bill through is because you have most Republicans that are leaning toward the NCAA sort of side and more restrictions on athletes and more control for the NCAAA, and a democratic side wants more control and freedom for athletes. But right now that control and freedom is, as the college administrators might say, out of control, right and so they.

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Speaker 4: Want some kind of rules and regulation.

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Speaker 5: So you have this fight going on between Republican Democrats that I don't see getting resolved anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: College football in better shape now or ten years.

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Speaker 4: Ago since.

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Speaker 5: Since the athletes are getting some kind of compensation Right now from the multi billion dollar business that is college football, you have to say it's in a better situation. But I think the unregulation in the intense movement that we're seeing among transfers and things like that in the situation with the inconsistent eligibility standard that it's it's not in a place, it's not in the greatest place right that it could be. So there's just a balance that has to be struck on how many how much rule and regulation, how much restriction do you put on athletes because they you know, ten years ago, Dan, they had virtually none, right, they had no, hardly any freedoms, and now maybe the argument is they have too many freedoms and so we don't have any rule of regulation.

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Speaker 4: There's got to be sort of a balance there.

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Speaker 5: Usually you get to that balance by what the NFL and all the pro leagues have done, Dan, which is collective bargaining, but it's not to the evening college and it has been a big topic of discussion.

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Speaker 4: But it's not like you can push a button and get there.

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Speaker 5: The many administrators want to try to start taking steps down, down, down, toward a collective bargaining agreement of some sort with major college football and basketball players.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ross, YEP, gonna be on Ross Dellinger Yahoo Sports senior college football reporter.

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Speaker 2: He works for the Mothership NFL Front Office Insider. You can see him on Get Up Sports Center NFL Live. Mike, thanks for joining us. Why not if you're the Dolphins, keep Tua on the roster if you're paying.

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Speaker 8: Him, great question. I think, Dan, they're resetting things. It's year one, Let's take the cap charges, Let's eat a lot of the money this year. Some of it's gonna go to next year and start fresh. I think it's sending a message about culture and more about the future than Hey, if we win six or seven games or eight games this year, that doesn't matter. So I understand why they were doing year one with a new head coach, year one with a new GM.

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Speaker 2: Are the Dolphins gonna be tanking.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if they're gonna be tanking, but I think what's gonna be really interesting, Dan, if you and I are having this conversation October and November, there'll be a number of teams that are probably more interested in fishing closer to the top of the draft than to making the playoffs. And I don't know if they're going to have a tanking problem the way the NBA does, but without question, next year's draft is loaded with quarterbacks, and there's gonna be a number of teams that maybe out of it in the middle of the season. It'll be interesting to see how they can port themselves when we get there.

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Speaker 2: But Tua, if he signs with the team, he still gets his money from Miami.

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Speaker 6: That's correct. There's three.

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Speaker 8: There's three quarterbacks right now, Kyler, Murray, Gino Smith and Tua that all have massive guarantees from their previous team. All three of those quarterbacks will sign for about one point three million dollars this year. So it's not necessarily comparing apples to apples when you talk about Daniel Jones or Kirk Cousins or Malik Willis with those other three, because a team is going to see one of those three players as tremendous value.

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Speaker 2: If you ran the Dolphins, what are you going to do at quarterback position?

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Speaker 8: I'm probably looking for a bridge quarterback and then looking at next year's draft because it could be historically great. Look, the season hasn't been played yet, We'll see how it goes, but you know there's a chance for it to be really good. So not just necessarily Miami Dan, but if I felt like I was a year away or just trying to establish myself. There's, you know, over ten new head coaches. I'm sure a lot of teams are going to have a very similar mindset.

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby, Raiders getting two first round picks from the Ravens. Let me start with the Ravens because I wondered about this last week. Why aren't more teams taking the approach the Rams take, Like Buffalo getting Dj Moore. I mean, I got to be all in because we know that window of opportunity doesn't stay open very long. And the Rams, it feels like, for the last decade, have been all in. We don't need our draft picks. We're going to get people who can help us win or at least compete for another Super Bowl. The Ravens went all in with Max Crosby, Buffalo with Dj Moore, the Rams, you know, getting McDuffie. Why don't more teams follow that blueprint?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think it's very sound, And in particular, you were asking about Crosby. You know, there's a couple of really interesting things. First of all, he's only twenty nine, he's incredibly productive, and he's exactly what you want for your locker room. He's a force multiplier. He's going to make everybody in that program better. The interesting thing, Dan, that no one's really talked about is Jesse Mentor went from this nice, young, ascending coach that will have, you know, a reasonable breaking period to like there is no honeymoon. Like the expectations for a rookie head coach have never been higher. If Lamar's healthy, he's a two time MVP. You have one of the two or three best pass rushers in the league. You have Derek Henry rukwand Smith, Kyle Hamilton, amongst others. Like this guy's honeymoon's about ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: If you ran the Raiders, what do you do? You got more cap space than anybody. You got two first round picks. We know what you're doing with one of them. What would you be leaning towards if you were running the team?

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Speaker 4: Three things?

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Speaker 6: Offensive line, offensive line, offensive line.

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Speaker 8: I am Dan, I am drafting Mendoza, but I am not playing him. I would have kept Gino Smith. And here's why. If you go back last year, they gave up more sacks than any team. You could look at it from a few different metrics. Don't ruin it for Nando Mendoza before or he's ready. I think he has a chance on the upside, Dan to be Matt Ryan, a taller guy, a good arm, a good athlete, not a great athlete. He's going to need a firm pocket. That's something that the Raiders have really struggled with. So why are we going to rush to play him? I would go out and get somebody else to start at least half the year, and make sure that your offensive line is settled before you do anything with Mendoza, because you don't want to ruin his career before they have a chance to be good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. I've been using the Andrew Luck analogy that you had this future Hall of Fame quarterback, you just didn't have a very good offensive line, and it eventually caught up to both the cold Den Andrew Luck. Can you quietly shop the number one pick if you're the Raiders?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not so sure they have it.

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Speaker 8: You know, like just from teams be at Arizona or the Jets could just say, hey, run into them at the combine and say, look, we're not negotiating. Tell me what the bill is, Tell me what the price is. Is it three ones? Is a four ones? Chances are teams are going to do that because I'm sure they're looking at it at a multi year sort of view of what we had talked about. When can think about Dante Moore next year, arch Manning, Leonora, Sellers like on and on and on, they'll probably be I think five or six first round quarterbacks if they play, you know, reasonably well this year. So I think part of what's going to hurt the Raiders from a leverage standpoint is teams are going to look at next year and say, we'll pay a premium, but we're not going to be unreasonable.

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Speaker 2: Who had a better week or ten days? Bills Ravens Rams.

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Speaker 6: I go with the Rams.

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Speaker 8: If you and I were running the Chiefs and we were just drafting the players on the Chiefs, Clearly Patrick Mahomes is the best player. I'm not so sure that Trent McDuffie is in two or three of their best players. He can blitz, he can tackle, he could play man, he could play zone, he could play slot, he could play outside. He's very competitive. There's nothing he doesn't do exceptionally well. And if we look at the Rams and say, like, what was outcome determinative? I would tell you like they're a lack of play at corner. You know, Darius Williams, Emmanuel Forbes. They didn't get the high level play. And we're gonna have to at some point cover Jackson Smith and Jigba Man to man. You know, we're gonna have to be able to get off the field on third down. They could do that today, they can do that a week ago, and I was surprised. Look, I know we've seen Kansas City trade the Jerry Sneave. We seen him trade Tyreek Hill. I put McDuffie in a different category. I think he's a great young player, and I was surprised that they traded him.

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Speaker 2: He's Mike tan and baumb ESPN NFL Front Office insider. What do you expect the rest of this week?

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Speaker 8: I think the quarterbacks are gonna be fascinating because I think you put that bucket of three in one group again, then that's Tua, Kyler Murray and Gino Smith. Those are guys are all one year deals at a million three, So like that's one bucket. I don't think anybody goes after Daniel Jones because of the Durabilly issue, but let's face it, Dan like the Colts are lit a little bit exposed. They took a six million dollar risk. The transition tag was six million less than the franchise tag, understandably. But now let's see what happens with him, and then the other one's gonna be Malik Willis. Malik Willis was somebody that hasn't played a lot but got a lot better with Green Bay, and it's gonna be fascinating to see where he signs.

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Speaker 2: What about the Colts going after Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 8: You know that's interesting, Dan. They like Riley Leonard, they still have Anthony Richardson. Obviously, they like Daniel Jones. That's why they transitioned him. Look, if you and I were running a team, I would say, for one point three million dollars, let's go hit Kyle Murray. His ceiling is really high. He's only twenty nine years old. He's played good football, not consistently, but he's put it on tape. And I'm always four. In a capped and constrained system, when you could take calculated risks and get a player that has a ability for incredibly on a three hundred million dollar cap, you're essentially paying him nothing at one point three million. There's very very little downside.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is only going to have the Steelers as a potential landing spot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think Minnesota if things go to work out with Murray, I mean, that's the only other team. But you know, let's face it, Dan, he's gonna be forty three in December. He's an all time great, one of the best I ever played. But it's close to the end and what you're worry about there, And I've been around testa Verdi at the end, Farv at the end. I work with Dan Marino like talking to him. It's not their arm, Dan, it's their legs and their inability to protect themselves. And you know he's gonna be forty three father times undefeated. And if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I got to take a long, honest and sober view of do I really need to do this one more year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I just wonder about landing spots. Even Kirk Cousins, does he look at TV and maybe commit to CBS, but with the caveat or the asterisk of if somebody calls, I might be leaving. Although I don't know if CBS would do that. I think he had a pretty good debut as an analyst here. But if you're going to replace Matt Ryan, you kind of want to know that that guy's going to be there on Sunday when you're doing your broadcast.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, if I'm Kirk Cousins, like I got to be close to the end as well. Like, you know, he's a great dad by all accounts. You know, CBS seems like a pretty good opportunity. You know, we'll see you know, sometimes these guys are so competitive though, it's hard for them to leave. And by the way, a quarterback is going to look at Minnesota to say, I could be coach by Kevin O'Connell. I have Justin Jefferson ugly the best receiver in the game, Jordan Das and TJ.

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Speaker 6: Hockinson. That's a pretty good place to be.

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Speaker 2: How did did Minnesota miss on JJ McCarthy? Like it feels like we haven't said the quiet thing out loud yet, but it certainly feels like they realized they made a mistake.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not ready to go there yet. He started ten games. I think we got to give him a grade have in complete. He's incredibly young. I saw in practice probably six times at Michigan. He has attributes you can't see. He's a natural leader, he has poised about him, and I think there's too much upside to give up on him.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: With that said, if we could go get Kyler Murray or Kirk Cousins, I'm gonna have a competition. But you know, we've seen too many guys from Donald, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield, you know, go to their third and fourth team until you know, quote unquote, the light went on, and to me, we gotta remember this, like, worst case scenario is not JJ McCarthy not working out, it's him working out someplace else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. But it feels like you're either good, really good with your team or you know that you're gonna get You're gonna be a backup quarterback and then you're gonna get your chance again. It feels like there's two buckets and quarterbacks. It's that guy's gonna bounce around and be Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield or Gino Smith, or you are going to get that quarterback who is going to be with your franchise from start to finish.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, how about that? Like I just tweeted this a couple of months ago. This is a remarkable statistic. Kyler Murray is the seventh consecutive quarterback drafted first overall that wasn't on the team that drafted him by the age of thirty. The last quarterback to be drafted first overall and still be honest team at thirty was Matt Stafford, and he was drafted going back to two thousand and nine. So it's really remarkable how hard it is to develop a quarterback now Andrew Luck retired, but yeah, seven quarterbacks in a row didn't make it to age of thirty.

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Speaker 2: You ever get in a shouting match with an agent?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, more times than I would care to admit.

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Speaker 2: Can you give me one? You don't have to give names, but no, what how loud did it get?

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Speaker 6: Oh? It got loud.

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Speaker 8: There was one. It was so bad that I actually not only did I call him to apologize, I wound up hiring his son as an intern because I felt so bad.

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Speaker 2: We'll be watching. Thank you, Mike, great to talk to you again.

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Speaker 6: All right, appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 2: He was on the call for the Rockets and the Spurs last night on NBC and Peacock. Reggie Miller back with us also Coast to Coast on Tuesday, stays in San Antonio the Celtics and the Spurs eight Eastern, also on NBC and Peacock. We Wemby again. Wemby both ends of the floor, inside and out. He shoots over eighty percent from the free throw line. I'm trying to figure out what he doesn't do. At the ripe old age of twenty two.

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Speaker 6: I think he's starting to figure it out. I think what I've been most impressed with, especially this year, he is embracing how teams are playing him because the knock especially the first year, be physical with him, get up under him, kind of move them around. And I think because of last year his season was short because of the blood clots. We didn't get a huge sample size of games. But I think he went back to the lab this offseason. We saw all his travels with the Monks and different places, trying to figure out the meaning of life and the game of basketball to him. And he's come back with a sense of purpose of matching other teams physicality. Again, he's still not the biggest guys, but he's embracing how these teams are playing them. And if you just case in point, the last three games, he went against the Detroit Pistons, a very physical team, the La Clippers, who have a number of players who like to play physical, and even last night with the Houston Rockets, they have a starting lineup of six six sixt' seven, six' nine and seven feet With Kevin, durant and they tried to get up under, him they tried to be physical with. Him he embraces that now and almost uses it against. Them And you're, Right AND i was trying to, think AND i was trying to put myself in the shoes of fans of players that it is an experience when you watch them Play dan And i'm, thinking LIKE mj was like that because you didn't know what you were going to see WITH mj on the. COURT i Put Stephen curry in that because of his ability to shoot the. Basketball to, me with, me is a musty experience because you you truly do not know what you are going to see and what you do see and. Witness it's, LIKE i don't Think i've seen a human being do.

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Speaker 2: That but What i'm also seeing is somebody who. Cares if you saw him in The All Star, game you saw him in The, olympics even the comeback game against The clippers where he got. Emotional he truly cares about the outcome of the. Game AND i find that really, rare and certainly at the age of you, KNOW i brought up twenty, two isn't it?

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Speaker 6: Refreshing all? RIGHT i, mean you, know we get so jaded nowadays because of some of these big contracts and load, management guys not wanting to. Play here's a guy, who again he'll listen to the trainers and the doctors for The, spurs but he wants to be out there every, minute and he wants to be out there. Competing AND i just wonder if Our american born, players it's some of the elite players are getting tired of the talk That victor Windin yama saved The All Star, game which he. Did he said the tone in that first, game how hard he came out and, Played AND i, WONDER i why Are american born players are looking at this saying you know what that that should be, us that's how we should be. Playing and you have This frenchman setting the. Tone And i'm not the only one saying that he saved The All Star, game but a lot of people are saying that because of how he approached. It and it's just refreshing to see that he competes so hard in just his third season and he just sets a.

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Speaker 2: Precedence i'll give you anybody in the league for the next five years who you.

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Speaker 6: Taking, OH i would take him because of what he does at both ends of the.

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Speaker 2: Floor anybody Close.

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Speaker 6: Kate cunningham would be in. THERE i Think Cooper flag will have his. Moments, Again cooper's only what in nineteen, twenty but for the next five. Years right, now HE'S thea and he's a very humble, kid but yet how he approaches the, game he's very. Thoughtful he's very methodical in terms of prep for a, game prep for his. Body the only thing that will be a knock going forward will be the injury. Part and right now he's with the perfect organization because they basically emitted load management back to the Great popovich And Keim, duncan momm And Ginobi Tony parker. Days so he's with the perfect organization in terms of saving his body going, forward and you know, what protecting him for himself because he, again he wants to be out there every minute competing at a high.

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Speaker 2: Level speaking of being out, There Jason tatum comes. Back it's not like they eased him into the. Lineup he was in the, lineup AND I i love watching this team and Now tatum. BACK i think they're the team to beat in The. EAST i.

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Speaker 6: AGREE i agree with, him and especially with the recent slide of The Detroit, PISTONS i think they've lost their last. THREE i still Think detroit will win The. East BUT i Think boston is in the perfect situation because now you have a long runway For Jason tatum to get into basketball, shape almost a month until the season is, over and then the first first and second rounds that's another two to three, weeks so it almost has two full months to get in basketball. Shape this past game On saturday In, cleveland he played twenty seven. Minutes this is a guy that's been off for ten months with an achilles, injury achilles, tear and he comes back and he played twenty seven minutes on the. ROAD i thought they were going to play him in even smaller, increments but it just lets me know that he's been back for a. While because for him to come back and play at this level and play those, minutes impactful, minutes it means he's been practicing and lifting and whatever else he's been. Doing it's been absolutely. Remarkable and it's going to be a fun game tomorrow because two great defensive Teams boston The, spurs and it'll be interesting because he will be, Tested, Him, Brown, pritchard they will all be tested on the wings because The spurs play a very physical style as well. Defensively this should be a very fun and entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Game Michael jordan says he doesn't get involved in the goat. Debate the latest interview That Mike treco did with. Him you talked about it on the. Broadcast why Would mike get involved in the goat Debate.

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Speaker 6: Because we're his. Minions that's our jobs to serve the, key.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah but he doesn't have to say. Anything he doesn't just say a word and, right he just goes.

00:30:52
Speaker 6: Scoreboard, Right that's that's our. Job our job look at the scoreboard and go like this all he needs to do is hold up this and that's, it this six FINALS. MVPs, LOOK i HAVEN'T i didn't play against everyone that's ever. PLAYED i never, played like he, said Against oscar And Jerry west and all. That BUT i do know what it does feel like to go against, Him Kobe lebron for one, season AND i love all those. Guys it's hard to he will never win if he interjects, himself puts himself in that. Place, again that's our. Place that's our, job yours and eyes because from you your eye, test you've been around a long. Time you've seen a lot of. BASKETBALL i played against a lot of great, players The, magics The, larry's The, MICHAELS i played against them. All SO i kind of get. It but, again that's not our job to do. That it's and that's not his job to do.

00:31:53
Speaker 2: That, yeah you, know it's weird WHEN i get asked this, question because, look you can build up a resume For lebron and you go what he did to do it for over twenty years and you know, consistent, see but you See kobe and it's and it's weird HOW i Think kobe got kind of Uh, OH i think we lost.

00:32:17
Speaker 6: You.

00:32:17
Speaker 2: Reg, oh, yeah start bringing Up. Jordan here we. Go, Yeah, todd we'll see if you can GET regi back on. There i'm just glad That Mike. Tarico you, Know mike hadn't been that busy the last you, know six. Weeks i'm glad that he got to do something where All reg's. Back, yeah got to sit down With jordan again for another. Interview but you, Know kobe's the one, that, like If i'm you and you, say, okay you got to Face Lebron Mike kobe Like kobe Is. MIKE i mean It's lebron's a, different different animal out, there but like style, Wise kobe is Is mike because he himself AFTER.

00:33:04
Speaker 6: I, THINK i think we get caught up when we talk about the goat situation and the go. Debate to, me the best player of the three IS. Mj kobe is a clone and a better, version like He's mike on, steroids better jump. Shooter to, me the fundamentals were better because he perfected them to be like the MASTER. Mj if you're talking about, careers the best career out of all three of, those in my opinion Is lebron because of the longevity and what he has done eight straight.

00:33:44
Speaker 2: Finals but you you you put emphasis on career and, rightfully, yeah there's a.

00:33:54
Speaker 6: Difference, SO i, Mean lebron has had the best career out of anyone for him to continue to play like this at this, level this late in his. Career but if we're going stack for stack, player to, ME, Mj, kobe and Then.

00:34:15
Speaker 2: Lebron oh in that, order.

00:34:20
Speaker 6: To me in that order just Because, okay LOOK i only had one year Versus. Lebron my last, year his rookie, YEAR i got tattooed BY. MJ i got tattooed By kobe at a high, level you, know Facing kobe in the. Finals so there's a body of work Between kobe AND i THAT i can you, KNOW i have a sample size.

00:34:42
Speaker 2: Against it's it's interesting WHEN i watch defenders on guys who were supposed to score and how you don't let it affect. You BUT i don't know how you, Don't like if you're Guarding kobe on the wing and everybody's, watching, yeah and all of a sudden he blows by you and you know, Dunks, like how do you not take? That? Personally?

00:35:05
Speaker 6: Well you never wanted to show emotions when you were playing those two, guys AND i tried as much as possible not to BECAUSE i tried to put pressure on them at the other end as, well Because i'm blowing by them as. Well you, KNOW I i tried to put as much pressure and make them work as hard as they possibly were making me, work to try to tire them. Out both of those, Players Kobe, mike they were superior athletes in fantastic, shape which is very difficult to. Do, so you, KNOW i heard you earlier talking about THE La marathon and you know run in the twenty six miles and all. THAT i tried to make it a marathon versus those guys and make it a track meet and constantly keep them in motion to try and tire them. Down some games it, worked other games it. Didn't but that's WHAT i tried to do versus those two.

00:35:57
Speaker 2: Players talking To Reggie, miller he was on the call For Rocket spurs last. Night he'll be staying In San, Antonio Celtic. Spurs that's tomorrow, night eight eastern ON nbc And. Peacock what do you make of THIS La? Marathon if you run eighteen, miles you get the same metal as those who completed The New york or the deal with the participation.

00:36:17
Speaker 6: Trophies come, on, now now.

00:36:20
Speaker 2: They talked about they talked about the, heat and BUT i can't give you the same, metal the same exact.

00:36:28
Speaker 4: Medal is it the exact same?

00:36:30
Speaker 6: Medal, yes come, on that can't happen, Then really the marathon was eighteen miles in that twenty six, correct, Baby, yeah can't do. That well we're giving out participation medals or just going eighteen?

00:36:49
Speaker 4: Miles?

00:36:51
Speaker 2: No, yeah but you got you got kids they probably get participation trophies.

00:36:56
Speaker 6: And dry in absolutely Mad. THEODORE i mean it, does because what are we teaching these. Kids that's not how life. Works right in the business, world it. Does don't. Work you do not get a participation trophy for coming in second or. Third work, hard go back to the, lab get in the, gym go outside and start. Shooting, hey get on the field and stop working on your. Fielding learn how to catch the.

00:37:29
Speaker 2: Football did you get anything for finishing runner up in THE Nba? Finals?

00:37:35
Speaker 6: Yeah you know WHAT i. Got that's a, bat that's. It, yeah that's all we. Got.

00:37:43
Speaker 2: Kobe kobe gave you a pat on the back and, said, Yeah i'm a. Chance why are you torturing me right? Now you KNOW i DIDN'T i didn't know who gave you the pad on the? Back did you give yourself a? Pad check gave me a Get?

00:38:00
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah you gotta play hard.

00:38:04
Speaker 2: Rich.

00:38:05
Speaker 6: Rick they. Couldn't they couldn't go to Big. Dithel that was the. PROBLEM i was, Like, okay you're, right big. Fella you're, right big.

00:38:15
Speaker 2: Fella if you had to pick, that you're gonna get bounced in the second round of the postseason or you're going to lose in THE nba.

00:38:22
Speaker 6: Finals i'll always take the finals because anything can happen once you get. There but it trusts. Me it beatings much. More it stings much more because you say to, yourself where CAN i win four? Games when you get to the, finals that's what you, Say i've got to win four. Games and then when we went down two to oh going back home and we won game, Three we're, like we Are you're you're saying three. Wins you would do anything to win three, games and, Yeah so that's how desperate you, get and that that's the thinking you have to. Have AND i know people ought to be politically, correct but you are counting down to sixteen. Wins once you get to THE nba, playoffs and once you get to the, finals you just, say how CAN i win four games before that other?

00:39:17
Speaker 2: Team would you give up part of your pinky finger on your left? Hand?

00:39:25
Speaker 6: Friend? Yip?

00:39:27
Speaker 2: Yeah people?

00:39:31
Speaker 6: Understand? Man when, yeah DID i say on my left?

00:39:36
Speaker 3: Hand?

00:39:37
Speaker 2: Yeah OH i still.

00:39:38
Speaker 6: Contributed, YEAH i can hold the. Ball, yeah give it the, ball give it the.

00:39:43
Speaker 2: Ball nine and a half fingers, Miller.

00:39:48
Speaker 6: Yeah just just give me the. Ball people are, yes, YES i. Would it wouldn't stink to. Me the reason WHY i feel this way, people AND i want to explain this to him IF i had ever been so close for so many, years so many conference finals versus The Knicks, philly when you're that, close when it's eight down to four and then losing to The lakers in the, finals needing four. Wins when you're that close and you can taste it and see the finish, line but you can't get to the finish. Line that's WHY i feel this. Way the. Stinks IF i had been like first second round and always you know going, OUT i had was never close to the finish, line so who? Cares but when you're close and you can see the FINISH i felt like That kenyan runner that was in first place and The american runner was. Running that's how you feel when you get to the. Finals CAN i get to that finish line?

00:40:44
Speaker 2: First marvin last week said if he was The Buffalo, bills he'd rather not get to the Super bowl and. Lose he'd rather lose earlier in the. PLAYOFFS i want.

00:40:58
Speaker 6: To be on the biggest, Stage, marvin because you want To you want the world. Scene you want to compete at the highest level against the best. Players and if that's The World, series the Super, bowl THE Nba, finals The Stanley, cup The, olympics for some of these runners and track, athletes you want to compete against the. Best and that that year we went to the finals With Larry legend as our. Coach we felt we were the best team in The. East we knew The lakers were the best team in The. West we wanted that smoke and we knew it was going to be an uphill, battle but they hadn't won in a long, time so both of us were coming. IN i, mean we knew they had the, pedigree they were The, lakers but The lakers hadn't won yet that was their first championship and we had never, won so we felt we were on equal. Footing so that's why we felt we had we had a.

00:41:53
Speaker 2: Shot AND i like That kobe stole your, move your step back. Jumped we had filmed.

00:42:04
Speaker 6: A Real Real world, episode he AND. I we took on The Real world cast in a game of two on eight and before we started, filming before the other crew showed, up we played one on One kobe AND i And, hey show me, this show me this. Move you. Know he was, like picking my. BRAIN i love how you do. This you, KNOW i saw you do this AGAINST. Mj AND i was, like being a big, Brother, hey, yeah, yeah this is WHAT i. Did you do the step, back be sure you create. Space and when he when he closes one more dribble and then You're he's, like, OKAY i got. It that fool was writing it down and using those moves against me in the. Finals i'm, like ain't this, Something ain't this? Something smart? Dude Smart Kobe Rest God, REST i know you were looking down on this interview right, now smiling and, Yeah, RANCH i got.

00:43:02
Speaker 2: You thank, you reg have fun Guard.

00:43:07
Speaker 6: Theaedore much love to my DAD Ds. Marvin next, year you AND, i let's sign up for THE La, marathon, baby and let's go eighteen miles so we can get Our Particiapaci. MEDAL i, mean.

00:43:21
Speaker 2: Let's. Go Reggie. Miller he'll be on the Call coach To Coast, Tuesday San Antonio celtics and The Spurs City eastern