BIGFOOT ENCOUNTERS IN THE FOOTHILLS OF THE OZARKS (ARKANSAS) IT HAD HAIR COVERING ITS FACE!!!

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast. On
<v Speaker 1>this episode, we have Pamela, who lives in the foothills
<v Speaker 1>of the Ozarks in the state of Arkansas. Pamela and
<v Speaker 1>her husband Paul have been experiencing bigfoot activity on their
<v Speaker 1>property for many years now. Pam wanted to talk about
<v Speaker 1>these experiences openly here on the channel, and she's got
<v Speaker 1>some very interesting encounters to share with all of us.
<v Speaker 1>Could these creatures possibly possess abilities that go beyond human comprehension?
<v Speaker 1>I believe they do. Why do these creatures choose to
<v Speaker 1>hang out around people's houses? And why are they consistently
<v Speaker 1>observing humans? Do they have ulterior motives or are they
<v Speaker 1>just simply interested in curious creatures? All right, let's dive
<v Speaker 1>into our new bigfoot interview from the state of Arkansas. Pamela,
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. How about you?
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing excellent. Thank you so much for asking, Pamela
<v Speaker 1>if you would tell me a little bit about yourself,
<v Speaker 1>where you're from, and your bigfoot encounter and experiences from
<v Speaker 1>the very beginning. Please.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, my name is Pam I'm fifty four. My husband
<v Speaker 2>and I and my husband's name is Paul. We live
<v Speaker 2>in northern Arkansas at the foothills of the Ozarks, and
<v Speaker 2>we've had a lot of activity on this property. We
<v Speaker 2>started hunting this property and around is around two thousand
<v Speaker 2>and two, two thousand and three, and I think it
<v Speaker 2>was the following deer season. My husband had come out
<v Speaker 2>and he was walking down this old logging trail and
<v Speaker 2>he's seen a set of five tracks and there was
<v Speaker 2>just like one right in front of the other. And
<v Speaker 2>he said they were about, I don't know, about ten
<v Speaker 2>inches long. And he said, you couldn't see the toes
<v Speaker 2>real good, but you could see, you know, the foot
<v Speaker 2>and he said it was fresh. But he couldn't figure out,
<v Speaker 2>you know, what would have left it. I mean, the
<v Speaker 2>people that owned the property. They were an elderly couple
<v Speaker 2>and you know, they still lived here, but they were
<v Speaker 2>you know, elderly, and so you know, he didn't really
<v Speaker 2>know what to think about it. And you know, I
<v Speaker 2>think he said he had an old flip phone at
<v Speaker 2>the time and he took pictures of him. But you know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know whatever happened to those pictures that
<v Speaker 2>was a long time ago. But and then you know,
<v Speaker 2>back then some our kids were young, so I didn't
<v Speaker 2>get the chance to come out here a lot. But
<v Speaker 2>I know one of the times when I came out there,
<v Speaker 2>where my stand was at, there was a tree and
<v Speaker 2>right in front of the stand there was a limb
<v Speaker 2>and it was probably I don't know about the size
<v Speaker 2>of a soda can, maybe a little bit smaller, and
<v Speaker 2>it was just snapped off about ten feet up, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, I did, I thought, what in the world
<v Speaker 2>would do that? You know, I mean there hadn't been
<v Speaker 2>any storms or anything like that, and so you know,
<v Speaker 2>I showed at the pall and you know, we couldn't
<v Speaker 2>figure out because we knew a buck couldn't have got
<v Speaker 2>up that high and done anything like that. And uh,
<v Speaker 2>that was on I think that was on a Saturday,
<v Speaker 2>because the next day his brother came out here and
<v Speaker 2>hunted with him, and he sat on on a you know,
<v Speaker 2>in a different area where I was at what it
<v Speaker 2>was probably oh maybe one hundred yards apart, which I
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't hear. I wasn't here that day, and he was
<v Speaker 2>sitting he sat on the ground and he said he
<v Speaker 2>heard a noise behind him, and he said, he turned
<v Speaker 2>and he looked, and he's seen something walking up the creek.
<v Speaker 2>And it was getting you know late, you know, the
<v Speaker 2>woods was getting kind of dark. But he could see
<v Speaker 2>this walking up the creek and he thought, who in
<v Speaker 2>the world is that? And all he could tell is
<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, looked big and it was black. Well,
<v Speaker 2>you know, he told Paul about it. Well, him and
<v Speaker 2>Paul had went down there a few days later and
<v Speaker 2>Paul stepped off in that creek and he could see
<v Speaker 2>whatever this was from like the waist up. And when
<v Speaker 2>Paul stepped off in there, he could only see Paul
<v Speaker 2>from like the very top of the shoulders up. So
<v Speaker 2>it was a good probably eight foot tall, and all
<v Speaker 2>he could tell, you know, he said he couldn't see
<v Speaker 2>if it had a hair. He just said it was black,
<v Speaker 2>you know. And you know, they they was always hearing
<v Speaker 2>knocks and stuff whenever they would come out here. You know,
<v Speaker 2>Paul said that they had no idea as to what
<v Speaker 2>it was. You know, back then, there wasn't much out
<v Speaker 2>about bigfoot and things that they do, or at least,
<v Speaker 2>you know, we didn't hear anything about it. And so
<v Speaker 2>eventually I got to wear you know, I was coming
<v Speaker 2>out here more. And I went to my stand one day,
<v Speaker 2>and the way the land is and my stand is
<v Speaker 2>right right at the edge of a major power line.
<v Speaker 2>And I was in my stand and then there's a
<v Speaker 2>fence line that runs behind my stand. It kind of
<v Speaker 2>crosses the power line and runs into the corner of
<v Speaker 2>a tree of the tree line and the tree line
<v Speaker 2>it makes kind of like a pie shape right there. Well,
<v Speaker 2>there was some some dogs that had ran through that
<v Speaker 2>little strip of trees there, and they ran up into
<v Speaker 2>that corner where the fence line meets the woodline and
<v Speaker 2>they was rolling around and you know, barking and everything,
<v Speaker 2>and I thought they might have had a deer down
<v Speaker 2>in that corner. So I got down and went up
<v Speaker 2>there to run them off. And you have to kind
<v Speaker 2>of walk up this little bitty you know, it's just
<v Speaker 2>like a little hill. It's just, you know, just the
<v Speaker 2>like three or four foot tall little hill. And as
<v Speaker 2>I got to the top of that hill, I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go on up into that corner and see
<v Speaker 2>if there's a deer. And I could smell something that
<v Speaker 2>smelled really bad. And as I started approaching that corner,
<v Speaker 2>something from across the power line in the woods over there,
<v Speaker 2>and it's real thick with cedars, you can't see in there.
<v Speaker 2>It let out this really deep guttural growl. I mean
<v Speaker 2>it was I've never heard anything like it. There was
<v Speaker 2>no way it was another dog or a coyote, or
<v Speaker 2>a cat or a bear. There is no way. And
<v Speaker 2>so I just started backing out and I backed probably
<v Speaker 2>almost one hundred yards, and there was a creek I
<v Speaker 2>had to cross, and so I turned and crossed that
<v Speaker 2>creek and I ran back to the truck, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and I told Paul what happened, and I wouldn't hunt
<v Speaker 2>back over there for a little while, but then, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I eventually started hunting back over there again. And then
<v Speaker 2>me and Paul would come out here a lot through
<v Speaker 2>the week, especially before deer season. And by this time
<v Speaker 2>the elderly couple had moved in with their son. Their
<v Speaker 2>son lives in a different state. They had, you know,
<v Speaker 2>both become sick, and so they asked Paul to oversee
<v Speaker 2>the property, and so, you know, we would come out
<v Speaker 2>here a couple of times a week and you know,
<v Speaker 2>just ride around, check the camera. We had, I think
<v Speaker 2>we at that time we only had like one camera
<v Speaker 2>and the deer feeders and stuff. And out by the
<v Speaker 2>edge of this power line there there was some sheet metal,
<v Speaker 2>some ten that I think the man's grandson had tried
<v Speaker 2>maybe to build a little fort or something out there
<v Speaker 2>at one time. And uh, but the sheet metal was
<v Speaker 2>still laying there. And we drove by the on the
<v Speaker 2>four wheeler and the sun had been here and he
<v Speaker 2>had bush hogged the field and he had moved that
<v Speaker 2>sheet metal and you could see where the you know
<v Speaker 2>where had been laying. The grass was dead. Well when
<v Speaker 2>we drove by, right in that dead grass, there was
<v Speaker 2>a cell phone. So Paul stopped. He picked it up
<v Speaker 2>and we was looking at it was the old flip phone,
<v Speaker 2>and something had chewed on it, and you know, we
<v Speaker 2>didn't know if it, you know, had been one of
<v Speaker 2>theirs or you know, who it belonged to. And you know,
<v Speaker 2>the thing of it is that this is out in
<v Speaker 2>the middle of nowhere. You know, there's nobody else that
<v Speaker 2>comes out here. But so he just took that phone
<v Speaker 2>and laid it on top of that sheet metal, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is flat out there, and so we
<v Speaker 2>went on and done, you know, whatever he was going
<v Speaker 2>to do. And then the next day we come back
<v Speaker 2>out and we always took like the same path. Well,
<v Speaker 2>when we come back, that phone was laying back in
<v Speaker 2>that dead grass, and we was like, how did that
<v Speaker 2>get there? You know, so he picked it up and
<v Speaker 2>he put it back on the sheet metal, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>we left well the next day and we had we
<v Speaker 2>was coming out every day that week, and the next
<v Speaker 2>day we'd come back out and you know, like I said,
<v Speaker 2>we'd always take the same path. And we went by
<v Speaker 2>and the cell phone was gone, but there was a
<v Speaker 2>piece of pipe like it was a probably about three
<v Speaker 2>foot long piece of pipe laying in that dead grass.
<v Speaker 2>And so we was really like what is going on?
<v Speaker 2>And so he picked up the pipe and put it
<v Speaker 2>on the metal, and you know, we done whatever it
<v Speaker 2>was we was doing, and we left well. The next
<v Speaker 2>we didn't get to come back the next day, but
<v Speaker 2>then the day after that, we was really curious. And
<v Speaker 2>so when we come back out, you know, we hurried
<v Speaker 2>up and got back there, and that piece of pipe
<v Speaker 2>was completely gone, but there was this little white flowered button.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever been in a house trailer,
<v Speaker 2>like an older house trailer that on the ceiling. They
<v Speaker 2>would have these little flowers that they would put the
<v Speaker 2>screw in. It was kind of like a little decoration thing.
<v Speaker 2>Well that's what it was. Where it came from, I
<v Speaker 2>have no clue, but it was laying there. And so
<v Speaker 2>by this time, you know, me and Paul are like,
<v Speaker 2>what is going on? And you know, I had a
<v Speaker 2>piece of candy in my pocket and I had my
<v Speaker 2>hair in a ponytail, so I took it out and
<v Speaker 2>laid it down there and I put we put the
<v Speaker 2>button on that metal and when we come back through,
<v Speaker 2>the button was you know, never did find the button.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where it went, but nothing never bothered
<v Speaker 2>you know what I put. You know, so you know,
<v Speaker 2>we don't know what was going on there. That was
<v Speaker 2>really odd. And then you know, there would be times
<v Speaker 2>we would drive through and to get out here, you
<v Speaker 2>drive through, you have to drive through another major UH
<v Speaker 2>power line. There's actually two that are by this property,
<v Speaker 2>and they converge at the top of a hill and
<v Speaker 2>we have a river that's less than a mile away
<v Speaker 2>from the house, and and then there's also another smaller
<v Speaker 2>power line. And there would be lots of times when
<v Speaker 2>we would drive through and you know, we would see
<v Speaker 2>something in that power line, and but where it was
<v Speaker 2>at it would you couldn't really back up because at
<v Speaker 2>that time there was two other people that lived back here,
<v Speaker 2>you know, two o their families, and we'd be afraid
<v Speaker 2>to back up and get rear ended. And then you know,
<v Speaker 2>it'd be too far to drive down, and the road
<v Speaker 2>is really narrow to drive down and turn around and
<v Speaker 2>come back. But you know, that happened quite often where
<v Speaker 2>we would see things. Uh, Paul seeing something. He I
<v Speaker 2>was with him and we drove through and he said,
<v Speaker 2>is there an old burnt out tree in that power
<v Speaker 2>line back there? And I said, I don't remember one,
<v Speaker 2>you know. And anyways, we had went to town and
<v Speaker 2>we come back and he said, whatever this was had
<v Speaker 2>to be ten foot tall, and but you know it
<v Speaker 2>was gone. And you know, it was things like that
<v Speaker 2>we would see in these power lines. Just and there
<v Speaker 2>was one time we had some friends with us and
<v Speaker 2>Paul and then the lady of the the woman was
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the back seat with me and her husband
<v Speaker 2>was in front with Paul. Well, Paul and her saw
<v Speaker 2>something in the power line, and where he was at
<v Speaker 2>at that point, he could kind of safely back up.
<v Speaker 2>So he backed up and whatever it was was gone.
<v Speaker 2>But they both seen it. And at that time in
<v Speaker 2>the power line, the bushes were probably i would say
<v Speaker 2>six seven eight foot tall, and this was above that,
<v Speaker 2>so whatever it was was big. But then in around
<v Speaker 2>two and fourteen, we we purchased forty of this eighty
<v Speaker 2>acres right here, and you know, and this, and we're
<v Speaker 2>surrounded by, you know, thousands of acres of woods, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and most of it's private owned, but it's still you know,
<v Speaker 2>thousands of acres of woods around us. And then, you know,
<v Speaker 2>once we started building out here, you know, we started
<v Speaker 2>noticing things. My sister in law had found an arrowhead
<v Speaker 2>out in the front yard, and so I was out there.
<v Speaker 2>Actually she had found the arrowhead and my me and
<v Speaker 2>Paul were out here working on the house, and I
<v Speaker 2>had opened up the sliding doors in the front and
<v Speaker 2>was looking outside and it was dark, but we had
<v Speaker 2>a you know, we have a yard light and it
<v Speaker 2>kind of shines across the creek. We have a creek
<v Speaker 2>that runs in front of our yard, and then on
<v Speaker 2>the other side of the creek there's cedar trees. Well,
<v Speaker 2>I was standing there and I thought I seen something
<v Speaker 2>run in between those two trees, and I told Paul,
<v Speaker 2>I said, so I just seen something. I said, whatever
<v Speaker 2>it was was big. Well, a couple of nights later,
<v Speaker 2>or it was in the evening, I was out in
<v Speaker 2>the yard. I was going to look and see if
<v Speaker 2>I could find any more arrowheads, and I came up
<v Speaker 2>on two tracks. And when I say it was two tracks,
<v Speaker 2>there was one small one and one bigger one. The
<v Speaker 2>bigger one was a little bit more washed out, but
<v Speaker 2>the small one you could see toes and everything. But
<v Speaker 2>it was just one you know, I don't understand that,
<v Speaker 2>you know, how you just one track. But the small
<v Speaker 2>one was about four foot away from the bigger one.
<v Speaker 2>And then we come out here one day to work
<v Speaker 2>and on the sliding doors, which we have like a
<v Speaker 2>two foot footer on the house. It's a concrete floor,
<v Speaker 2>and then the sliding doors. So you're talking, you know,
<v Speaker 2>from the ground to the top of the sliding door
<v Speaker 2>at least eight nine feet, I don't know. And we
<v Speaker 2>come in and I looked over at the sliding door
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, what is that on the sliding door?
<v Speaker 2>So I walked out the side door and walked around
<v Speaker 2>and there were two huge handprints, and all you could
<v Speaker 2>see was like it wasn't like the whole hand you know,
<v Speaker 2>it looked like they had somebody had put their hands
<v Speaker 2>up there and was trying to look in the house.
<v Speaker 2>And all you could see was, you know, part of
<v Speaker 2>the hand and like probably three to four of the
<v Speaker 2>fingers and part of the thumb. It wasn't just like
<v Speaker 2>a whole handprint. And they were huge, and they were
<v Speaker 2>at the top of the door, and I, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I showed it to Paul and he was like, well,
<v Speaker 2>maybe somebody one of the family came out, And I said,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they could reach up there. And I said, besides,
<v Speaker 2>like how big they are, you know. And uh so
<v Speaker 2>I got the window cleaner went out there, and as
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to clean it, it would just smear. It
<v Speaker 2>was real pally, you know. And by this time, you know,
<v Speaker 2>he and I after finding the footprints, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>we were suspecting pretty good as to what it could
<v Speaker 2>possibly be. But you know, it's still really hard to
<v Speaker 2>wrap your mind around. And then you know, once we
<v Speaker 2>got moved in, you know, we had we would hear
<v Speaker 2>things like shaking trees out back and breaking limbs, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and like because in the house we didn't have good
<v Speaker 2>phone service, and so to send a text or talk
<v Speaker 2>on the phone, a lot of times you'd have to
<v Speaker 2>go outside and so and when we'd go outside, that's
<v Speaker 2>when you'd hear this stuff going on. We finally had
<v Speaker 2>to get a uh cell phone booster installed we could
<v Speaker 2>have phone service, but uh, you know, we would hear
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff going on, you know, behind it. Usually
<v Speaker 2>it came from behind the house. I know one night
<v Speaker 2>I went out to send a text, and I mean
<v Speaker 2>I could hear something that was like smack, and then
<v Speaker 2>this tree cracked and it just boom down on the
<v Speaker 2>ground and I turned around and ran back in the house.
<v Speaker 2>I told Paulus, there's something behind the house. And but
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just stuff like that going on. And
<v Speaker 2>then one day I went hunting and that this was
<v Speaker 2>something else that that would happen. Even before we moved
<v Speaker 2>out here. I would be sitting in my stand and
<v Speaker 2>I would hear this like loud behind my stand, you know,
<v Speaker 2>in the woods back there, and I'd be like, what
<v Speaker 2>it is making it? It would sound like if you
<v Speaker 2>were to take like a heavy sandbag something and drop
<v Speaker 2>it from you know, like fifteen foot. It would just
<v Speaker 2>don't rule out on the ground, and I would hear
<v Speaker 2>that a lot. Well, this particular morning, you know, this
<v Speaker 2>was after we moved out here. I was sitting there
<v Speaker 2>and I was hearing that, and then I heard a
<v Speaker 2>tree go over, and then a little bit later I
<v Speaker 2>heard another tree go over. And so when we met
<v Speaker 2>back at the house for lunch, yeah, I was telling Paul,
<v Speaker 2>I said, there's some crazy stuff going on back there.
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm hearing some really weird stuff. And so
<v Speaker 2>he came and sat with me that evening and we
<v Speaker 2>was sitting there and I mean it was as calm
<v Speaker 2>as could be, no wind, and we hadn't been there
<v Speaker 2>probably five ten minutes at the most, and there went
<v Speaker 2>another one. I mean that was three trees in one day.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just stuff like that, know, going on
<v Speaker 2>quite often. We never had anything approach the house except
<v Speaker 2>for the handprints on the windows. But at this point,
<v Speaker 2>you know, we had never had anything like slapping the
<v Speaker 2>house or anything like that. And then one day Paul
<v Speaker 2>and I we were we was coming home from church
<v Speaker 2>and used to we would have to drive through that
<v Speaker 2>creek to get to our driveway. And now you know,
<v Speaker 2>we drive over it. We put in horns and stuff,
<v Speaker 2>so back then we still had to drive through it.
<v Speaker 2>And at this time there was just us, and then
<v Speaker 2>there was another couple that lived back here that we
<v Speaker 2>share this same road, this same driveway you know, uh
<v Speaker 2>that leads to their driveway and then our driveway. Well,
<v Speaker 2>we was in that creek and Paul stopped and I said,
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? And he said what is that?
<v Speaker 2>And I was looking and I looked down the creek
<v Speaker 2>and you could see probably it was an arm. It's
<v Speaker 2>probably about three and a half or yeah, about three
<v Speaker 2>three and a half foot long of what we could
<v Speaker 2>see of it. It was solid black. It was about
<v Speaker 2>the size of a soccer ball, and it was just
<v Speaker 2>splashing the water, you know, back and forth. It was
<v Speaker 2>splashing the water three to four foot up in the air,
<v Speaker 2>and you could see the sun like shining off of
<v Speaker 2>the wet hair. And we were both looking at it.
<v Speaker 2>And then the lady, you know, from the other driveway,
<v Speaker 2>she was pulling out of her gate and we was
<v Speaker 2>blocking her. So we had to pull up and pull
<v Speaker 2>into our driveway so she could get out, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>we didn't go back. Paul, was you know, trying to
<v Speaker 2>make sense of it as to what it was. You know,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, your mind does not want to comprehend,
<v Speaker 2>you know, what you're seeing. And about two days later
<v Speaker 2>he said, because you know, I kept saying that was
<v Speaker 2>an arm, and he was like, I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, and uh. And then about two
<v Speaker 2>days later he was like, Pam, he said that was
<v Speaker 2>an arm. He said, Uh, there ain't no doubt about it.
<v Speaker 2>That was an arm. And so we went back down
<v Speaker 2>there and where we could see this arm, there was
<v Speaker 2>like a little bend in the creek there and I
<v Speaker 2>think it was like a little tree that it was
<v Speaker 2>sticking out. But right around that little bend there was
<v Speaker 2>like a deep hole where something could have been sitting.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we couldn't have seen it because the
<v Speaker 2>little bend and you know, but it was a deep hole,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we was kind of thinking maybe it
<v Speaker 2>was sitting there cooling off or something. I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, and then even seeing that, you know,
<v Speaker 2>your mind, you know, you're still in denial, and uh,
<v Speaker 2>you know, but anyways, you know, we've seen that. And
<v Speaker 2>then this was in June of twenty and twenty one.
<v Speaker 2>I have a swim or I have a swimming pool,
<v Speaker 2>and this, this right here is what it gets hard
<v Speaker 2>for me to talk about. Okay, yeah, it just it's okay.
<v Speaker 2>I have a swimming pool. And it was in June.
<v Speaker 2>It started on the Monday, I think was on a
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth and I was out there. I was had cleaned
<v Speaker 2>it and was just kind of floating around and I
<v Speaker 2>looked down and we had this little it's like we
<v Speaker 2>have like a little field, and then there was some
<v Speaker 2>cedar trees on both sides of this path, and then
<v Speaker 2>it opened back up into another little field. And I
<v Speaker 2>was laying on the mat and I looked down there
<v Speaker 2>and I could see something reddish brown down there, and
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what is that, you know, And I didn't,
<v Speaker 2>you know, didn't see it moving. Now. Before that, I
<v Speaker 2>was hearing like this weird whistle and I had started
<v Speaker 2>from across the power line, and then I heard again
<v Speaker 2>it was in these woods where I've seen, you know,
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was I was looking at. And so I
<v Speaker 2>laid there and I was watching it and I watched
<v Speaker 2>it for several minutes, and you know, I never seen
<v Speaker 2>it move, and so I thought, well, I'm going to
<v Speaker 2>float over and get a drink. And at this time
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a deck or anything on the pool.
<v Speaker 2>All I had was the pool ladder, and I had
<v Speaker 2>a little shelf Paul had built that I could hang
<v Speaker 2>on the side of the pool. So I floated over
<v Speaker 2>and got a drink, and when I floated back, it
<v Speaker 2>was gone. You know, I was thinking maybe it was
<v Speaker 2>like a broken like a tree limb or something that
<v Speaker 2>had turned brown, but you know, it was gone. And
<v Speaker 2>that night or that evening, Paul and I was sitting
<v Speaker 2>out front and we heard a knock coming from that area.
<v Speaker 2>And then Wednesday night, he and I sat back out
<v Speaker 2>front and we heard a knock again, and then from
<v Speaker 2>the other side of the house we heard it was
<v Speaker 2>like this really deep rough sneeze is what it sounded like.
<v Speaker 2>And so Paul got up and walked over to the
<v Speaker 2>other side of the house, but it was too dark
<v Speaker 2>in the woods. You couldn't see anything. Well, the next
<v Speaker 2>day I had to get back out there and clean
<v Speaker 2>the pool, and anyways, I walked out of the house
<v Speaker 2>and as I was walking out, I heard a grunt
<v Speaker 2>come from the woods behind the house, and I looked
<v Speaker 2>up there and I didn't see anything and it was
<v Speaker 2>a really deep grunt. It was it would kind of,
<v Speaker 2>you know, remind you of a buck grunt, but it
<v Speaker 2>was still different and it was deeper. And so you
<v Speaker 2>have to walk down these concrete steps to get down
<v Speaker 2>to the ground, you know, and to the yard. And
<v Speaker 2>so I walked on down the steps and went and
<v Speaker 2>put my stuff on the thing, and I got in
<v Speaker 2>the pool and I heard that grunt again, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>I was looking around, and you know, I was already
<v Speaker 2>on edge. And then you know, I went to cleaning
<v Speaker 2>the pool, and uh, I heard it sounded like metal
<v Speaker 2>hitt and metal. And Paul has a bunch of metal
<v Speaker 2>pipes and stuff that is back there by that little
<v Speaker 2>field that he uses for welding projects and stuff, and
<v Speaker 2>it sounded like metal hitting metal. And then I heard
<v Speaker 2>sounded like either like a limb breaking and crashing or
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was just a loud break and crash.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, this was over a period of you
<v Speaker 2>know time. It wasn't like one right after the other.
<v Speaker 2>But uh, anyways, you know, so I was hearing all
<v Speaker 2>this stuff and I was, you know, almost done, and
<v Speaker 2>I thought, we I'm gonna make one more swape back
<v Speaker 2>around the top and I'm going to get out, okay.
<v Speaker 2>And before I tell the rest of this, I believe one.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, And Guardian angels mine. I've heard mine speak
<v Speaker 2>to me before the end. She saved my life. She
<v Speaker 2>saved me from being in a terrible car wreck with
<v Speaker 2>my kids in there with me. And I've heard her
<v Speaker 2>speak to me three times or actually four counting this time,
<v Speaker 2>and each time, you know, it saved my life. And
<v Speaker 2>so as I was making that last round on the pool,
<v Speaker 2>I looked up and about forty yards away from me,
<v Speaker 2>and twenty yards being like the yard and the driveway,
<v Speaker 2>and then the other twenty up into the edge of
<v Speaker 2>the woods, that reddish brown sasquatch was standing there. And
<v Speaker 2>it was this was so crazy because it had it
<v Speaker 2>looked like it had taken its hair and pulled it
<v Speaker 2>over its face. I could not see the face, and
<v Speaker 2>it was it was a reddish brown. It was. I
<v Speaker 2>could see the peck muscles, you know, in the chests
<v Speaker 2>and its head. Its shoulders went straight out. It didn't
<v Speaker 2>like have a slope or a slant to the shoulders.
<v Speaker 2>They just went straight out. And this thing had to
<v Speaker 2>be every bit of four foot wide at the shoulders
<v Speaker 2>and it was standing there and the head like the
<v Speaker 2>hair hanging off the arms, it had its arms kind
<v Speaker 2>of bowed and there the hair hanging off was about
<v Speaker 2>six inches long, and I could see it blowing in
<v Speaker 2>the wind. And the thigh muscles on this thing were massive.
<v Speaker 2>I could see the right side of it really good
<v Speaker 2>because the sun was hitting it on that side. But anyways,
<v Speaker 2>when I looked up and I seen this thing, she
<v Speaker 2>told me, my angel told me, she said, don't look
<v Speaker 2>at it. So I just I looked right back down
<v Speaker 2>into the water and act like I didn't try and
<v Speaker 2>act like I didn't even see it. And I was
<v Speaker 2>about fifteen foot from the ladder, and so I went
<v Speaker 2>to walk towards the ladder, and I was glancing up,
<v Speaker 2>and we have a car port beside the pool, and
<v Speaker 2>the top of it kind of comes down over the
<v Speaker 2>sides a little bit, and as I was looking up,
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see I couldn't see it because of the
<v Speaker 2>top of the car port, and I didn't know if
<v Speaker 2>it was coming towards me. I didn't, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't know where it was at. And I was trying
<v Speaker 2>to look. I I just remember thinking I'm gonna die.
<v Speaker 2>That's what was going through my mind. And I was
<v Speaker 2>kind of backing up trying to look. I couldn't see it,
<v Speaker 2>so I turned towards the ladder and Miguel. That's the
<v Speaker 2>last thing I remember. I don't remember getting out of
<v Speaker 2>my pool. I don't remember grabbing my stuff. The next
<v Speaker 2>thing I remember, I was standing on those concretes steps
<v Speaker 2>and I was looking around and it was like I
<v Speaker 2>was in a fog. It was the craziest thing. And
<v Speaker 2>I remember I was scanning, looking for this thing, and
<v Speaker 2>it was almost like the way I felt was like
<v Speaker 2>when you come out of anesthesia that weird, groggy. I
<v Speaker 2>don't even know how to explain it, but it almost
<v Speaker 2>like you're not even yourself. And that's how I felt.
<v Speaker 2>And I just remember scanning, and I went up the
<v Speaker 2>steps and ran into the house and and the best
<v Speaker 2>that I can kind of figure, because I always tried
<v Speaker 2>to plant it out to where whenever I would have
<v Speaker 2>to get out there and clean the pool, that I
<v Speaker 2>could do it and get back in and get rinsed
<v Speaker 2>off and then come down and get supper started before
<v Speaker 2>Paul gets home. Well, when I came, because I came
<v Speaker 2>in and I can. I can remember, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>hopped in the shower to wash off, and I'm thinking,
<v Speaker 2>what just happened? What just happened? You know, your mind
<v Speaker 2>is just going one hundred miles an hour. And I
<v Speaker 2>remember when I came down the stairs, Paul was walking
<v Speaker 2>through the door, and I remember thinking, why is he
<v Speaker 2>home so early? But it wasn't he early? And so
<v Speaker 2>the best of that I can kind of calculate, there's
<v Speaker 2>thirty to forty five minutes that I can't account for,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's just it it's really hard to
<v Speaker 2>you know, it took me a while to come to
<v Speaker 2>grips with it. And then, uh, we had we had
<v Speaker 2>told our story on Bigfoot Odyssey before that was in
<v Speaker 2>that that August of that year, and then uh, Paul
<v Speaker 2>every October, you know, uh, he goes bear hunting, and
<v Speaker 2>I remember, and this was something else weird that happened.
<v Speaker 2>I was still dealing with this encounter. You know, it's
<v Speaker 2>so hard to wrap your mind around seeing one of
<v Speaker 2>these things. And uh, I was Paul had went to bed,
<v Speaker 2>and I was still downstairs and I was looking at
<v Speaker 2>something on my phone. And the whole front of our
<v Speaker 2>house is glass. We have two sets of sliding doors,
<v Speaker 2>and then on each side of the sliding door we
<v Speaker 2>have another window that's the same size. And then above
<v Speaker 2>those there's three four more windows, you know, square or rectangle,
<v Speaker 2>and then two more triangle beside those, and then two
<v Speaker 2>more triangle at the top. Well, I was sitting there
<v Speaker 2>and out of the corner of my eye, I seen
<v Speaker 2>a light go by the little triangle window, and I
<v Speaker 2>glanced up, and then it was coming across one of
<v Speaker 2>the big rectangle windows, and I'm like, wow, that's a
<v Speaker 2>huge comment. And then this thing went in front of
<v Speaker 2>the window and it just stopped. And it was about
<v Speaker 2>the size it was wasn't as big as a softball
<v Speaker 2>that it was a little bit bigger than a baseball.
<v Speaker 2>And this thing had a tail on it, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it was like a round ball. And then all of
<v Speaker 2>a sudden it started sloping off into this pointed tail
<v Speaker 2>and it just stopped. And then I could see that
<v Speaker 2>it was re reflecting into the house onto the ceiling,
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, this thing spun. The
<v Speaker 2>whole ball just spun, and the tail just whipped and
<v Speaker 2>it shot off like a like a streak of lightning,
<v Speaker 2>and and and now I'm thinking, what the world, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we we caught something on game camera
<v Speaker 2>that I can't explain. It's a bright light and where
<v Speaker 2>it's at there isn't a light source. But uh then, uh,
<v Speaker 2>the next year, in two thousand and twenty two, carry
<v Speaker 2>Arnold came out here and you know, he captured There
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of things that went on when he
<v Speaker 2>was here, which of course, uh, you know, he he
<v Speaker 2>he lived in Mississippi and he worked in Texas and
<v Speaker 2>whenever he would go to work, he would take his
<v Speaker 2>stuff that he was working on with them, so he
<v Speaker 2>could you know, win his free time work on there.
<v Speaker 2>And uh, you know, he was hit head on and
<v Speaker 2>everything that he captured out here was destroyed, so that
<v Speaker 2>he had there was you know, he captured lights out here,
<v Speaker 2>you know, he filmed them. You know, there was this
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of stuff. The knocks he heard whoops out here.
<v Speaker 2>I heard and I had never heard whoops, and me
<v Speaker 2>and him both heard them. Paul had had to go
<v Speaker 2>to the store, and me and Carrie was here and
<v Speaker 2>the other guy that was with them was in the
<v Speaker 2>shower and he had I was in I had was
<v Speaker 2>in Alliston Carrie was out there at his truck eating lunch,
<v Speaker 2>and he texted me and he said, they're yelling. And
<v Speaker 2>when I walked out the door, I could hear some
<v Speaker 2>type of vocal and then there was the two perfect
<v Speaker 2>loops and then some other kind of howl. But anyways,
<v Speaker 2>but I also seen on a gray one. After they
<v Speaker 2>had left, I was sitting out front. Paul was out
<v Speaker 2>mowing the other property. Anyways, Paul was out mowing the
<v Speaker 2>other property and I was out here by myself, and
<v Speaker 2>I actually heard that it was like a metal sound again,
<v Speaker 2>and I looked over and almost in the same area
<v Speaker 2>where I had seen the reddish brown one, there was
<v Speaker 2>a This one was like an ash gray color, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was getting late in the evening, but
<v Speaker 2>when I looked over, I could see the head, the shoulders,
<v Speaker 2>and the arms, and then all of a sudden, this
<v Speaker 2>thing just dropped like it was on an elevator, but
<v Speaker 2>super fast. And I was like, you are kidding me,
<v Speaker 2>And I got up and I walked to the end
<v Speaker 2>of my car that I couldn't see anything. And then
<v Speaker 2>when Paul got home and I told him, he went
<v Speaker 2>out there and he took a flashlight and he looked
<v Speaker 2>around and he saw it looked like a track, but
<v Speaker 2>it's there's so much a leaf litter, you know, it's
<v Speaker 2>hard to tell, you know, like detail that there was
<v Speaker 2>definitely an impression there. And then another time I think
<v Speaker 2>I saw that reddish brown went again across the field.
<v Speaker 2>I was back in the pool cleaning it and I
<v Speaker 2>was the hose was hung and I was turned. I
<v Speaker 2>turned to see what it was hanging on. And as
<v Speaker 2>I turned across the field, there's you know, we have
<v Speaker 2>the yard and then a creek and then a little
<v Speaker 2>small field and it's probably one hundred and fifty yards
<v Speaker 2>maybe to the tree line over there. And as I turned,
<v Speaker 2>I seen something. It was a big reddish brown and
<v Speaker 2>it was like, you know how you have to do
<v Speaker 2>it to double take. I look, I caught it out
<v Speaker 2>of my eye and I was already in the process
<v Speaker 2>of turning back, and when I turned back the look
<v Speaker 2>it was gone, but I could definitely see it was big.
<v Speaker 2>It was you know, the shoulder and it was sticking
<v Speaker 2>out of these bushes looking and you know, but the
<v Speaker 2>main encounter was the that one in twenty twenty one,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, and since then we've had you know
<v Speaker 2>several different things, like now, you know, at times there's
<v Speaker 2>stuff that hits the house, and we don't have any
<v Speaker 2>trees that's close enough to where anything could be hit
<v Speaker 2>in the house. You know. I was taking a shower
<v Speaker 2>one night and I was hearing something and I thought,
<v Speaker 2>what am I hearing? So I kind of stopped, and
<v Speaker 2>then I heard it, there's something pecking on my bathroom window.
<v Speaker 2>And I shut off the water, and you know, I
<v Speaker 2>mean I never heard it again. Well after I got
<v Speaker 2>out and I had walked into the bedroom. I thought
<v Speaker 2>I heard it again when I was in the bedroom.
<v Speaker 2>But and and then like we've had things like like
<v Speaker 2>Paul he killed a deer last year and he had,
<v Speaker 2>you know, left the gut pile down down the woods.
<v Speaker 2>And that was probably around ten or ten thirty, and
<v Speaker 2>he and his brother were hunting and they decided to
<v Speaker 2>go over to a different spot to look around. But
<v Speaker 2>when they come back through just a couple hours later,
<v Speaker 2>that whole entire gut pile was completely gone. That he said,
<v Speaker 2>there was nothing. He said, all you could see was
<v Speaker 2>just a little wet area, you know, but that you know,
<v Speaker 2>if it would have been buzzards or coyoats or anything.
<v Speaker 2>It would have been scattered. It was completely gone. And
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know when I hunt, I still hear things.
<v Speaker 2>I've had knocks, and I mean it's just the ongoing,
<v Speaker 2>you know, process of things. And you like Paul, he
<v Speaker 2>went down, Like I said, we're less than a mile
<v Speaker 2>away from the river. And there's some people that in
<v Speaker 2>another state that owned that property. Well he gave They
<v Speaker 2>gave Paul permission to go back there, you know, and
<v Speaker 2>he could fish and he can hunt as long as
<v Speaker 2>if they asked Paul if he would keep their the
<v Speaker 2>driveway maintained. And so he went back there one day.
<v Speaker 2>He had set out some loomp or it was like
<v Speaker 2>loom lines, but they were just coming off the bank
<v Speaker 2>and he went down there and was checking that and
<v Speaker 2>something a rock came flying over and landed in the water.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we have found like what looked like
<v Speaker 2>a little igloo type nest. Paul stumbled up on it
<v Speaker 2>one day and it was big enough that he could
<v Speaker 2>crawl in and sit down and still have plenty of room.
<v Speaker 2>And then and I've got pictures of that, but a tree,
<v Speaker 2>part of the tree has now fallen on it, and
<v Speaker 2>that but I do have pictures of that, but it's
<v Speaker 2>just you know, ongoing activity now, like I said, just
<v Speaker 2>strange things. You know, I put out an audio recorder.
<v Speaker 2>I've caught you know, hows and whoops, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>it's just ongoing, you know, And that's pretty much it
<v Speaker 2>as far as that I can. There's so much i'd
<v Speaker 2>be here if I went into every little detail, I'd
<v Speaker 2>be here for a couple hours probably, But you know,
<v Speaker 2>that's just kind of the gist of everything.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I appreciate you for sharing that with me.
<v Speaker 1>And you said there's still ongoing activity. How often does
<v Speaker 1>this happen, like every other day, every two weeks? What
<v Speaker 1>would you.
<v Speaker 2>Say, Uh, Well, like when I'm hunting. I went hunting
<v Speaker 2>the other day and I didn't hear anything. But most
<v Speaker 2>of the time when i'm outside, there's usually something, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you'll hear a knock or trees going over and there.
<v Speaker 2>At one point, it was so bad when I would
<v Speaker 2>come home from work, as soon as I would get
<v Speaker 2>out of the car, i'd hear a knock. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>if I walked out the front door, be a knock,
<v Speaker 2>and it was almost like you know, I mean that
<v Speaker 2>never really happened with Paul Oh. And we have found rocks,
<v Speaker 2>rock stacks. We had one left out here after we
<v Speaker 2>had a wedding out here, and then we found one
<v Speaker 2>rocks left on our granddaughter's trampling. And and it's weird
<v Speaker 2>about those rocks is there's one rock that keeps getting moved.
<v Speaker 2>It'll be stood straight up and then it'll you know,
<v Speaker 2>and which you know, if the wind gets to blow
<v Speaker 2>in the trampoline because it's sitting on the edge, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I guess it could knock it back over, but I
<v Speaker 2>mean the rock stands something that will stand that rock
<v Speaker 2>straight up. And that's happened a couple of times.
<v Speaker 1>Now.
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't do knocks out here. I don't
<v Speaker 2>interact with them. I'm afraid to, uh, you know, I don't.
<v Speaker 2>We don't do knocks or whoops, and I don't leave
<v Speaker 2>things or anything like that for them, but they try
<v Speaker 2>to interact with us. We found a little rock one
<v Speaker 2>time out front. Is a piece of mortar, is what
<v Speaker 2>it is. And it's got different colored speckled pieces of
<v Speaker 2>paint like on it. And it was in between mine
<v Speaker 2>and paused chair and I just happened to look down
<v Speaker 2>and I said, what's this and he said, that's mortar.
<v Speaker 2>He said, we don't even have mortar on the property.
<v Speaker 2>And so I said it out here on the ledge
<v Speaker 2>on the edge of the house. And it stayed there
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and then one day I noticed
<v Speaker 2>it was gone and I asked, Paul, said, did you
<v Speaker 2>move that rock? And he said no, and I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>it's gone. And then it stayed gone for months. And
<v Speaker 2>then when Carrie Arnold was out here, he was sitting.
<v Speaker 2>We had the two chairs out there, but we had
<v Speaker 2>got a glider swing and we put it in between
<v Speaker 2>the two chairs and he was sitting in that glider
<v Speaker 2>swing and Paul walked up and there laid that rock
<v Speaker 2>and he picked it up and he was, you know,
<v Speaker 2>telling carry about it. Well, then we put it back
<v Speaker 2>out there, and then it disappeared again, and I don't
<v Speaker 2>you know, I asked, Paul, said, did you move that
<v Speaker 2>rock again? And he said no. I said, well, it's
<v Speaker 2>gone again. And then at that time I had been
<v Speaker 2>talking with the guy, a bigfoot researcher, and he was saying,
<v Speaker 2>you need to go out there and tell me you
<v Speaker 2>want your rock back. And I'm like, I don't think
<v Speaker 2>I want to interact with them, you know, I said,
<v Speaker 2>it scares me. And he's like, well, just just stay
<v Speaker 2>I want my rock back. So I listened to him,
<v Speaker 2>and I went out there and Paul was out there,
<v Speaker 2>and I told Paul what I was going to do,
<v Speaker 2>and so I just said, you know, I'd really like
<v Speaker 2>to have my rock back, you know, I said it
<v Speaker 2>kind of loud. Well, then the next day, I was
<v Speaker 2>coming up the driveway and something told me to look down.
<v Speaker 2>It literally said look down. And I looked down and
<v Speaker 2>there load that rock. And I was like, you are
<v Speaker 2>kidding me. And so the mind speak thing. I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if that's what that was, but I don't want
<v Speaker 2>no part of that that that was. I don't want
<v Speaker 2>something getting in my head like that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt. Did you keep any of the rocks
<v Speaker 1>that you found.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the ones that the that was stacked out there
<v Speaker 2>on those steps after the wedding, they're still out there.
<v Speaker 2>And then that little piece of mortar, it's still out there,
<v Speaker 2>you know. But you know, like I said, it has
<v Speaker 2>disappeared and come back and disappeared and come back, and
<v Speaker 2>as far as I can tell, nothing has ever messed
<v Speaker 2>with the other ones. But they were literally stacked on
<v Speaker 2>top of each other.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to take a photo of that and
<v Speaker 1>send it over to me. I'd like to check it out.
<v Speaker 2>The the rock pile, well, I mean there they fell
<v Speaker 2>down because me there, they were right there on the
<v Speaker 2>edge of the steps, and my daughter, she was getting
<v Speaker 2>ready to leave, you know, we'd had the wedding out here,
<v Speaker 2>and she was getting ready to leave, and I was
<v Speaker 2>going to turn the walk down those steps, and out
<v Speaker 2>of the corner of my eye, I just thought it
<v Speaker 2>was one rock, you know, I mean, because it all
<v Speaker 2>kind of blended, and I was gonna kick it. And
<v Speaker 2>as I went to kick it, I realized they were stacked.
<v Speaker 2>But I was, and I had already kicked them and
<v Speaker 2>knocked them over. And I asked her, I said, did
<v Speaker 2>you see those rocks? And she said no, she you know,
<v Speaker 2>she hadn't, she didn't notice them. I said, they were
<v Speaker 2>stacked on top of each other. And I tried to
<v Speaker 2>restack them, like like I can visualize now, but uh,
<v Speaker 2>I can't get on the stack because they're just random rocks,
<v Speaker 2>you know, they weren't smooth rocks or but you know,
<v Speaker 2>as I just I kicked myself. Now every time I
<v Speaker 2>think back, because I just remember I was turning to
<v Speaker 2>go down the steps and I caught. I just caught
<v Speaker 2>rocks and and I didn't even realize they were stacked
<v Speaker 2>until my foot was already in motion to move them,
<v Speaker 2>to move it, and I'm like, oh, they're stacked, and
<v Speaker 2>then you know, I couldn't even stop my foot.
<v Speaker 1>No, that's fine. I'm just more interested in seeing like
<v Speaker 1>what type of rocket is and the size and just
<v Speaker 1>kind of what they look like.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, I can and I may have pictures, but
<v Speaker 2>if not, I can get some and send those to you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fine. It sounds like with the activity that
<v Speaker 1>you're experiencing, maybe they're out there messing with you more
<v Speaker 1>than your husband, and you probably get the consistent feeling
<v Speaker 1>of being watched. Is that correct?
<v Speaker 2>Oh? All the time? All I mean. And that's the
<v Speaker 2>thing is, I've always been one of those people that
<v Speaker 2>can kind of sense things. And when we first started
<v Speaker 2>hunting out here, I was I would always tell Paul,
<v Speaker 2>there's something different, So that place out there gives me
<v Speaker 2>the creeps, you know, And I never could get used
<v Speaker 2>to the feeling. And I still have the feeling. I've
<v Speaker 2>just grown accustomed to it, I guess, but it's it's
<v Speaker 2>it's definitely, you know, I feel like it all the time.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and why do you think they're hanging out
<v Speaker 1>around the house.
<v Speaker 2>I think that I think they actually stayed in here
<v Speaker 2>because before we, you know, bought the property, it was
<v Speaker 2>right in here where we built our house. It was
<v Speaker 2>so thick. I mean there was trees and cedar trees
<v Speaker 2>and uh you know, thorn thickets, and it was so
<v Speaker 2>thick in spots you can't evenly get through it. And
<v Speaker 2>we found like a whole bunch of bones, deer bones
<v Speaker 2>and stuff out here, I mean, and I mean a bunch.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we was thinking coats because the people
<v Speaker 2>that owned it did not let anybody else hunt here,
<v Speaker 2>and for somebody, you know, because somebody had mentioned, well
<v Speaker 2>maybe somebody was jumping their deer off, you know, their carcasses,
<v Speaker 2>And I said, the nearest person is a mile away,
<v Speaker 2>you know, and you know, we had never seen anybody
<v Speaker 2>out here, you know, but uh, you know, and when
<v Speaker 2>I say bones, I mean it was a lot of bones.
<v Speaker 2>But I think that we I think this was like
<v Speaker 2>a corridor because it's in between two big hills were
<v Speaker 2>like in the valley. And I mean you've got a
<v Speaker 2>creek that goes to the river. The river's less than
<v Speaker 2>a half a mile away, and then you've got a
<v Speaker 2>power line like probably one hundred and seventy five yards
<v Speaker 2>away from the house, you know, and one of the
<v Speaker 2>main power lines. And I think that they just kind
<v Speaker 2>of hung out in here, that's what you know. Me
<v Speaker 2>and Paul have kind of wondered.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it sounds like it. And I think your eyes
<v Speaker 1>that they're using the power line strips to navigate through
<v Speaker 1>the forest in that area, and makes me wonder why
<v Speaker 1>they stick close to the power line strips. Maybe it's
<v Speaker 1>like a visual like they see it and they know
<v Speaker 1>where they're at.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and it could be just an easier walk,
<v Speaker 2>you know, instead of you know, going through the woods.
<v Speaker 2>And now I don't know that and maybe a good
<v Speaker 2>because I know, I see a lot of deer crossing
<v Speaker 2>the power line. It maybe they hunt the power lines too,
<v Speaker 2>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could be an ambush area. Yeah, and your husband,
<v Speaker 1>his brother had this encounter by the creek whenever it
<v Speaker 1>was getting dark. Did he have any experiences prior to
<v Speaker 1>that encounter?
<v Speaker 2>No, huh huh, And he wouldn't even you know, for
<v Speaker 2>the longest time. Even now when I when I talk
<v Speaker 2>to him about it, he's like, I can't say that
<v Speaker 2>it was a big fit. He said, All I know
<v Speaker 2>is it was black, solid black, and it was big.
<v Speaker 2>But he didn't even realize how big until they've done
<v Speaker 2>the size comparison, you know, And you know, he believed.
<v Speaker 2>I think he believes because he I mean, you know,
<v Speaker 2>he knows that I wouldn't lie, and that he still
<v Speaker 2>has a heart. He has a hard time saying that
<v Speaker 2>it was a big foot. You know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's not sure what he's seen and he can't
<v Speaker 1>say for sure what it was and what it wasn't.
<v Speaker 1>Whenever you were hunting and you heard that loud growl,
<v Speaker 1>what can you compare that to?
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've actually never heard anything like it. I mean
<v Speaker 2>I've listened. I listened to like big cat growse, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and like a lion or a tiger, and it wasn't
<v Speaker 2>even I mean, because this was way too deep. It
<v Speaker 2>was just the deepest guttural growl that I have ever heard.
<v Speaker 2>And there's really nothing I can compare it to it
<v Speaker 2>because I've never heard anything that sounds close to it.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've listened to everything that you know, and
<v Speaker 2>especially anything that would be here. You know, we have
<v Speaker 2>the occasional bear here, but I have never seen one.
<v Speaker 2>Mountain lions, coats, dogs, you know, pigs, But I mean this,
<v Speaker 2>this doesn't even compare to what those would make because
<v Speaker 2>it was you know, I've heard people say that when
<v Speaker 2>they hear it like a there are sasquatch sounds, that
<v Speaker 2>they can feel it. Now, I didn't feel it in me,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like in my chest or anything like that,
<v Speaker 2>but it was so deep. It literally felt like the
<v Speaker 2>whole growl just surrounded me. I could tell where it
<v Speaker 2>came from, you know, the general area that it was
<v Speaker 2>like a amplified or something. I don't know. It was crazy.
<v Speaker 1>No, that's a good description. You can't compare it to anything.
<v Speaker 1>And you know a lot of people mention that when
<v Speaker 1>they hear a sasquatch vocalize. And whenever you guys found
<v Speaker 1>that flip phone and the pipe that was left in
<v Speaker 1>the area, it sounds like there was like a gifting
<v Speaker 1>situation going on there. Do you do you get that feeling?
<v Speaker 2>That's what we because you know, around about that time
<v Speaker 2>was when finding Bigfoot was coming out and you know,
<v Speaker 2>we had watched some of that and that's where we learned.
<v Speaker 2>I think it was on there that you know, they
<v Speaker 2>do like the gifting, and me and him was like, really,
<v Speaker 2>you know, because that's and we thought, could that be possible?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, but and so I mean now
<v Speaker 2>I think that's what was going on, you know, but
<v Speaker 2>you know, back then and we really didn't, you know,
<v Speaker 2>really no, because we there just wasn't a lot of
<v Speaker 2>information at that time.
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, it could be them testing you to
<v Speaker 1>see like if you notice a difference on the property,
<v Speaker 1>like you know, are these people really paying attention? If
<v Speaker 1>I moved this, are they going to notice it?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, and you know there's been like there was
<v Speaker 2>one time I was out there taking pictures, I like
<v Speaker 2>taking pictures and Paul and his brothers were up here.
<v Speaker 2>Paul was they were building the shop and I was
<v Speaker 2>out by the edge of the power line and there's
<v Speaker 2>a wild plumb tree out there and it has really
<v Speaker 2>pretty blooms during the spring. And I was out there
<v Speaker 2>and this wouldn't have been too far from where this
<v Speaker 2>gifting scenario took place. And I was, you know, taking
<v Speaker 2>pictures and off of a sudden, I hear hey, and
<v Speaker 2>I stopped, and you know, it came from across the
<v Speaker 2>power line in the woods behind my stand. And I
<v Speaker 2>looked over there, you know there, I mean, there wasn't
<v Speaker 2>nobody over there. I mean, it's woods, but I mean
<v Speaker 2>I could see up in there, and so I thought, well,
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was just one of the guys. And it echoed.
<v Speaker 2>So I, you know, was walking around the tree and
<v Speaker 2>hear it again, Hey, And I'm like, what in the world,
<v Speaker 2>because I thought it's coming from over there. And so I,
<v Speaker 2>you know, continued around the tree looking at the flowers,
<v Speaker 2>taking pictures, and I heard it the third time. And
<v Speaker 2>after I heard it the third time, I just turned
<v Speaker 2>around and walked back to the you know, to the
<v Speaker 2>shop up here, and I asked them, I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>you're all yelling hay, and they was like no, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, and so now I wonder. I mean, I've
<v Speaker 2>heard the people say that they can sometimes make you know,
<v Speaker 2>say stuff, you know, do things like that, like say
<v Speaker 2>a person's name or whatever. And but you know, that
<v Speaker 2>was very strange to me because it the way it
<v Speaker 2>sounded didn't sound really so much like a person saying hey,
<v Speaker 2>you know, wasn't that clear, you know, And you know,
<v Speaker 2>now I wonder you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like I said, I heard they often mimic people. Well,
<v Speaker 1>not often, but a lot of researchers have claimed that.
<v Speaker 1>And I've heard that from several of my guests in
<v Speaker 1>the past, and it gets to the point where they
<v Speaker 1>even say the person's name.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hope I don't never hear that.
<v Speaker 1>Oh lord, yeah, absolutely. And you said earlier that Paul
<v Speaker 1>seen something in the power line strip whenever you guys
<v Speaker 1>are driving through there, and he had to back up,
<v Speaker 1>what what exactly did he see?
<v Speaker 2>Well, are you talking about what him and the lady,
<v Speaker 2>the lady that was with us both saw or the Yeah, uh,
<v Speaker 2>well they both they said it looked like a head,
<v Speaker 2>like you know, like something's head with that was sticking
<v Speaker 2>out of all this brush, you know. You know, he said,
<v Speaker 2>you could tell it was something seeing in there, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think he could see the shoulders or anything,
<v Speaker 2>like I said that the bushes. The bushes were you know,
<v Speaker 2>probably about seven, you know, seven to eight foot tall,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, he said he could see the head,
<v Speaker 2>and I think he said that maybe, uh, he could
<v Speaker 2>see a little bit of what looked like a shoulder,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, he couldn't tell a lot of detail
<v Speaker 2>because the brush was too high, And that's exactly what
<v Speaker 2>she saw, you know. And you know, I've even seen
<v Speaker 2>things in that power line. And you know, I was
<v Speaker 2>headed out to work and looked up and I seen
<v Speaker 2>something and I thought, oh my gosh, I could see
<v Speaker 2>head and shoulders. And but when you get to this
<v Speaker 2>certain spot, you're on a hill, and it's just a
<v Speaker 2>dangerous place to try to back up because if you know,
<v Speaker 2>back then, like I said, there was two different families
<v Speaker 2>that lived back here. Now it's just us and the
<v Speaker 2>other family. But uh, it's just a dangerous place to
<v Speaker 2>back up because if they are coming in behind you,
<v Speaker 2>you know, they were in you. And the nearest place
<v Speaker 2>to turn around, you know, is several one hundred yards
<v Speaker 2>on down the road, and then you have to go
<v Speaker 2>down and turn around and then drive back. And then
<v Speaker 2>when you drive back the way the power line's angled,
<v Speaker 2>you can't really see, so you'd have to drive all
<v Speaker 2>the way back down. I mean, you know, it's kind
<v Speaker 2>of a complicated thing to try to do. And so
<v Speaker 2>but when I come back through, whatever I saw, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it was gone. There was nothing there.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is interesting. So you've found tracks and you've
<v Speaker 1>heard trees shaking, limbs, bread, and then you had this
<v Speaker 1>encounter whenever you were in the pool. Can you describe
<v Speaker 1>what the figure it looked like? I know you said
<v Speaker 1>it was a brown reddish color and its hair was
<v Speaker 1>in front of its face. But about how tall do
<v Speaker 1>you think it was? And can you describe any more
<v Speaker 1>features on the creature?
<v Speaker 2>Well, initially, you know, I would always say probably about
<v Speaker 2>seven and a half foot tall. But I seen a
<v Speaker 2>cutout of one done on an eight foot sheet of
<v Speaker 2>plywood and a guy standing in front of it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>And when Paul went out there that you know, when
<v Speaker 2>after he got home that day and we went out there,
<v Speaker 2>and I was trying to envision this thing and him standing.
<v Speaker 2>It would have been like that guy in front of
<v Speaker 2>that piece of plywood. So it was every bit of
<v Speaker 2>probably eight foot tall, and it had to be four
<v Speaker 2>foot wide at the shoulders because it would double my
<v Speaker 2>husband easy. And and like I said, the shoulders just
<v Speaker 2>went straight out, and then they had these big shoulder muscles.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I could see the muscles and I could
<v Speaker 2>not see any skin. You know, people have asked me.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I don't remember any skin. The only
<v Speaker 2>skin that I can say that I remember seeing as
<v Speaker 2>I could see this creature's hand and it was black
<v Speaker 2>and and you know, like I said, the hair was
<v Speaker 2>pulled or I see pulled. It looked like it intentionally
<v Speaker 2>pulled the hair in front of its face. It didn't
<v Speaker 2>want me to see its face for some reason. And
<v Speaker 2>it looked and you know, the hair and stuff on it,
<v Speaker 2>it was well groomed. It wasn't matted or dirty. It
<v Speaker 2>looked very well groomed. And as far as being able
<v Speaker 2>to tell how long the hair was like on the chest,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't. I can't really say how long
<v Speaker 2>it was. All I know is laid flat enough on
<v Speaker 2>it to where I could see the peck muscles, you know,
<v Speaker 2>And and it was kind of tapered at the waist,
<v Speaker 2>but I could see the right thigh really good. The
<v Speaker 2>left leg I could not see it as well. There
<v Speaker 2>was you know, some bushes and stuff, but I remember
<v Speaker 2>seeing the right thigh. I could see it all the
<v Speaker 2>way down to the calf, and the calf and the
<v Speaker 2>thigh was huge. I just cannot imagine, I mean to
<v Speaker 2>think of how big these things are. It just blows
<v Speaker 2>your mind. And but you know, as far as that's
<v Speaker 2>about all the detail is because it you know, I
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see any of the face. Why it done that,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, you know, for something the
<v Speaker 2>feeling I got for some reason, it didn't want me
<v Speaker 2>to see its face, and I don't understand that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you mentioned that your guardian angel told you
<v Speaker 1>not to look at it. What do you think would
<v Speaker 1>have happened if you would have looked at the sasquatch
<v Speaker 1>directly in its face?
<v Speaker 2>I think if I would have looked at it and
<v Speaker 2>it known that I knew it was there, I think
<v Speaker 2>it was coming down there. That's what I believe. I
<v Speaker 2>think on that day, I feel like the Good Lord
<v Speaker 2>stepped in and saved my life because the only time
<v Speaker 2>I've ever heard her is when there's a danger, and
<v Speaker 2>uh now I believe one I was in danger. I
<v Speaker 2>think that he was. I think it was going to
<v Speaker 2>come down there and do what I don't know, take me,
<v Speaker 2>you know, kill me. I don't know, but uh, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and that's just what I believe. That's what I feel.
<v Speaker 2>And you know, and like I said, I've heard her
<v Speaker 2>speak to me. That made the fourth time in my life.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and sorry, go ahead.
<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say the and the other three
<v Speaker 2>times each time saved my life or my kids, you know.
<v Speaker 1>So it's been the same voice every time, Yes, same she's.
<v Speaker 2>It's a female, same voice.
<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned that you don't remember what happened after
<v Speaker 1>this encounter, and you mentioned it was kind of like
<v Speaker 1>waking up from an anesthesia. Do you think that this
<v Speaker 1>creature maybe produced like infrasound and like stunned you perhaps,
<v Speaker 1>or there was like missing time involved. Well, definitely missing time,
<v Speaker 1>but do you think the creature caused that?
<v Speaker 2>At first, you know, that's what I wondered. But then
<v Speaker 2>we was at church one day and the pastor was
<v Speaker 2>talking about at times when there was the glory of God,
<v Speaker 2>there would be like a fog or a smoke, and
<v Speaker 2>it just clicked in my head because when I remember,
<v Speaker 2>when I was able to remember, it was like I
<v Speaker 2>was in a fog, and so you know, now, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, well, it was that the glory
<v Speaker 2>of God stepping in and stopping something bad from happening,
<v Speaker 2>you know. So, I mean, I don't know, I don't
<v Speaker 2>really know the answer because at first I thought maybe
<v Speaker 2>it was from it, but you know, now I wonder
<v Speaker 2>if if if it was truly God stepping in and
<v Speaker 2>stopping something and it was something I shouldn't see, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>It very well could have been. And there you know,
<v Speaker 1>God's constantly watching out over us, and a lot of
<v Speaker 1>times we don't realize when he's saving us from danger.
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes, you know, we have to put a little
<v Speaker 1>extra work to realize, you know, that He's trying to
<v Speaker 1>protect us, and we have to be aware of be
<v Speaker 1>aware of those signs.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>pray every day for protection from you know, from God,
<v Speaker 2>for me and my family, and and that's why I
<v Speaker 2>truly want hundred percent believe the Good Lord saved my
<v Speaker 2>life that day. And you know, it's a it's very
<v Speaker 2>emotional for me in both ways because it reliving it
<v Speaker 2>and the fear, but also the the spiritual part, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it really that gets me as well. You know, when
<v Speaker 2>I say the spiritual, I mean like God's protection, you know, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>No doubt, such a profound experience can definitely change you
<v Speaker 1>and you know, rattle you. Yeah, yeah, Okay, So after
<v Speaker 1>this encounter, you talked about seeing this light in front
<v Speaker 1>of the window and it passed by the window and
<v Speaker 1>kind of stopped. Correct, what color was this ball of light?
<v Speaker 2>It was a really bright, parly white and it was
<v Speaker 2>like sparkling like a star, you know, and it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, it had this tail on it, and
<v Speaker 2>it looked like it would like a comet. That's what
<v Speaker 2>it looked like, was a commet, you know, the comment
<v Speaker 2>has the tapered tail. You know, it's big up by
<v Speaker 2>the round part and then it tapers off. That's exactly
<v Speaker 2>what it looked like. And then now now Paul, he's
<v Speaker 2>seen something outside the window as well, and it just disappeared.
<v Speaker 2>There was a light. There's a white light.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. And what was your impression whenever you
<v Speaker 1>saw this ball of light? What do you think it was?
<v Speaker 1>What does your gut tell you?
<v Speaker 2>Really and truly, when I seen it and the way
<v Speaker 2>it acted, it was like it had intelligence because I
<v Speaker 2>literally felt like it it stopped and it was like,
<v Speaker 2>oh no, she sees me, and it spun and just
<v Speaker 2>shot out. That's exactly what I felt. I didn't feel evil.
<v Speaker 2>It scared me. I mean I started crying because it
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just a couple of months prior to this,
<v Speaker 2>I'd seen a sasquatch, you know, and just trying to
<v Speaker 2>wrap your mind around everything going on. But I didn't
<v Speaker 2>feel evil. But I don't know, you know, but that's
<v Speaker 2>what I literally felt, though, is it was like slowing down,
<v Speaker 2>like it was looking in. That's this is my impression,
<v Speaker 2>was this thing was slowing down to look in, and
<v Speaker 2>it was. And the feeling I got was like, oh no,
<v Speaker 2>she sees me, and she and it just flips and
<v Speaker 2>you know, spun around and turned and shot off.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But yeah, there's definitely a lot of stuff out
<v Speaker 1>there that we don't understand, and it seems like it's
<v Speaker 1>a battle between good and evil and there's a war
<v Speaker 1>being waged for our souls and yep, you know, maybe
<v Speaker 1>that's what's going on. It's a battle between light and darkness.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it's definitely a battle every day, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And and you know, like I said, Carrie, he filmed
<v Speaker 2>this in the power line and that was crazy because
<v Speaker 2>he was already over there and me and Paul had
<v Speaker 2>come over. They went over first, and then me and
<v Speaker 2>Paul came over a few minutes behind. Him, and I
<v Speaker 2>think Paul had to come back to the shop for something,
<v Speaker 2>and he let me off with the side by side
<v Speaker 2>and I walked around this big cedar tree out there,
<v Speaker 2>and Carrie was standing there and he said, did you
<v Speaker 2>see that? And I had just caught a glimpse of
<v Speaker 2>a big bright light and I was like, yeah, what
<v Speaker 2>was that? He said, I don't know. He said. It
<v Speaker 2>started across the top. He said, it was like an
<v Speaker 2>amber color, he said, and then it would turn to
<v Speaker 2>this bluish white. He said, it just shot across. Well,
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, this thing came back out
<v Speaker 2>of the woods and started coming back down the power line.
<v Speaker 2>And Carrie said, he's seen this thing loop and it
<v Speaker 2>may have, but uh, but it was fast and it
<v Speaker 2>was blinking like a like you know, like a lightning bug.
<v Speaker 2>But this thing was super bright, super big, and super fast.
<v Speaker 2>But it would it would blink one and then often.
<v Speaker 2>But when that thing would blink one, it would literally
<v Speaker 2>light up the like all the grass and stuff in
<v Speaker 2>the power line, the bushes, and it came down and
<v Speaker 2>come across, and then it shot back across. And when
<v Speaker 2>it shot back across and went into the woods, you
<v Speaker 2>could see into the woods. It was lighting up the
<v Speaker 2>woods that bright. And you know, like I said, he
<v Speaker 2>had all this on camera, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Carrie Arnold from big Foot Odyssey actually filmed
<v Speaker 1>that light.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, he did, and he talked about it on
<v Speaker 2>his channel, you know, because he had already done a
<v Speaker 2>documentary before he came here, and so he had two
<v Speaker 2>to work on. And apparently the first one that they
<v Speaker 2>had went to they had some camera malfunction. So he
<v Speaker 2>told me and Paul, he said, I'm gonna do y'all's first,
<v Speaker 2>and so that way we can go back to Donnie's
<v Speaker 2>and reduce some stuff there. And so he was, you know,
<v Speaker 2>in the process of getting started on ours, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>and then the accident happened. So but uh, you know
<v Speaker 2>that was just a terrible, terrible tragedy.
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, yeah, it absolutely was. And you mentioned
<v Speaker 1>seeing a gray creature, like an ash gray color and
<v Speaker 1>it dropped down super fast. Can you describe what this
<v Speaker 1>creature looked like?
<v Speaker 2>Well, and it was getting you know, I could still
<v Speaker 2>see pretty good. You know, it wouldn't dark, but it
<v Speaker 2>was you know how like in the evening when it's
<v Speaker 2>starting to get dusky dark, you can still see pretty good,
<v Speaker 2>but like into the woods, it's darker, you know. And
<v Speaker 2>I just happened to look over and I could see
<v Speaker 2>like the head and the shoulders, I could see the arms.
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't make out any face, you know, facial detail,
<v Speaker 2>and it was like an ash gray color. And what
<v Speaker 2>was weird is I think it had to have been
<v Speaker 2>squatted or something, because you know, it wasn't as big
<v Speaker 2>as the reddish brown one, like near you know, not
<v Speaker 2>near as wide, but it was you know, whiter than
<v Speaker 2>you know, an average man. That the width of the
<v Speaker 2>shoulders didn't match the hive because it was only about
<v Speaker 2>maybe five foot tall. And that's why I think it
<v Speaker 2>was squatted down. And when I looked over and seen it,
<v Speaker 2>it just I mean, it was fast, you know, but
<v Speaker 2>I got I mean, it wasn't like I caught a
<v Speaker 2>glimpse of it. I literally made direct contact and looking
<v Speaker 2>at it. But as far as any facial details or nothing,
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I couldn't. I can't tell you, you know, anything
<v Speaker 2>about that. It was just I seen it and then
<v Speaker 2>it just went down, you know. Now there was one
<v Speaker 2>day Paul was sitting out front and we have like
<v Speaker 2>a little shooting range staying out here. But before we
<v Speaker 2>put it up, we had it was like a big
<v Speaker 2>dirt pile, and he was sitting there and he just
<v Speaker 2>happened to glance over at the dirt pile and he
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was one of them like where he
<v Speaker 2>had to do a double take, and he looked over
<v Speaker 2>and then he kind of looked back across the creek
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, and then he looked back over,
<v Speaker 2>but he could see the face of one. He said,
<v Speaker 2>he has seen one on TV that looks a lot
<v Speaker 2>like what he saw. I think it was kind of
<v Speaker 2>similar to well, he said it had big eyes. You
<v Speaker 2>remember how you I think you said you saw a
<v Speaker 2>little one and it had really big eyes. I think
<v Speaker 2>that he said that this same had big eyes, and
<v Speaker 2>but it was like a I think he said it
<v Speaker 2>was a reddish color. Was it a reddish color? And
<v Speaker 2>he said it was small. He said it wasn't big,
<v Speaker 2>and it had you know, a lot of hair. But
<v Speaker 2>he said it was there one second and then gone
<v Speaker 2>the next. But he said he got you know, a
<v Speaker 2>view of the face, but it wasn't It was one
<v Speaker 2>of them things where you know, like I said, it's
<v Speaker 2>there one second and gone the next, and so it
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like he got to get a good look at it.
<v Speaker 2>And he even he was like, I don't even He's like,
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was something else, you know. He I'm like, well,
<v Speaker 2>what else could it been? He's like, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>He didn't really want to. You know, it's it's hard
<v Speaker 2>to wrap your mind around, you know, all of it is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And you mentioned hearing this metal bang sound
<v Speaker 1>on the property. What do you think that is?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I've heard it twice and
<v Speaker 2>then the two times then I see a big foot.
<v Speaker 2>Is it related? I don't know, I mean it, you know,
<v Speaker 2>because I wondered maybe if it it was like bump
<v Speaker 2>in the middle to just get my attention. But then
<v Speaker 2>I heard on David Plattus the the for one one
<v Speaker 2>the hunted that a man, one of the men went
<v Speaker 2>missing and his friends that he heard like a metal sound.
<v Speaker 2>You know, So I don't know. I mean, I don't
<v Speaker 2>know if it could be related. Its kind of odd,
<v Speaker 2>you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've heard that around here whenever I was having
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot activity. And also the thumping sound that you're talking about,
<v Speaker 1>like somebody picked up a big giant sandbag and dropped
<v Speaker 1>it on the ground.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the fact that you were hearing trees getting
<v Speaker 1>pushed over. I mean that that screams out bigfoot to me.
<v Speaker 2>Well in the and the like like the sandbag, you
<v Speaker 2>know thing. I mean, I even hear that, you know,
<v Speaker 2>even now sometimes and not as much as I used to.
<v Speaker 2>And then uh, me and Paul went back on the
<v Speaker 2>river one day. He was just looking around on those
<v Speaker 2>people's property and we heard that same sound come from
<v Speaker 2>up the hill, you know, and there's nobody up there,
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I looked at him, I said, did
<v Speaker 2>you hear that? And he said yeah, I said, that's
<v Speaker 2>what I hear behind my stand. And then, uh, I
<v Speaker 2>heard a guy tell his encounter one time, and his
<v Speaker 2>name is Donnie Miller, and he said that he had
<v Speaker 2>a bigfoot come up behind him and he said when
<v Speaker 2>he turned around, he was hearing the stump, you know,
<v Speaker 2>loud thumping. And he described it just how I you know,
<v Speaker 2>would just like a sandbag. And he said when he
<v Speaker 2>turned around, he said, it was stomping its foot, that's
<v Speaker 2>what he was hearing. But you know, so you know,
<v Speaker 2>it makes me wonder if that's what they're doing, is
<v Speaker 2>they're stomping their foot or hitting the ground with their
<v Speaker 2>fist or you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, that's great theory. It could be them ground
<v Speaker 1>stomping or slapping the ground with their hand, or possibly
<v Speaker 1>jumping out of the trees and landing on the ground.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I heard somebody say that too, something about one
<v Speaker 2>jumped out of a tree. Well, I think it was
<v Speaker 2>the last that girl that you interviewed, mm hmm.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she saw the creature jump out of the cedar
<v Speaker 1>tree and that's the sound that she described. So it
<v Speaker 1>very well could be that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, could be could be that which you know, I
<v Speaker 2>know and Donnie had said that it was. You know,
<v Speaker 2>it could be a combination of any of it. You know,
<v Speaker 2>when they because you know, as strong as they are,
<v Speaker 2>and when they hit something, it's gonna you know, sense
<v Speaker 2>some vibration.
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely. And after learning about these creatures and
<v Speaker 1>hearing other people's testimonies, what do you think they are?
<v Speaker 2>I kind of lean more towards you know, I try
<v Speaker 2>to find stuff from the Bible. I just kind of
<v Speaker 2>wonder if they are part of you know, the enough one,
<v Speaker 2>the fallen Angels. I'm not saying that they're directly them,
<v Speaker 2>but like an offspring or a descendant, you know, because
<v Speaker 2>I know there was giants even after the flood. The
<v Speaker 2>Bible speaks of men that had lying like faces, you know.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was weird things the Bible talks about,
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know, it just makes me wonder if
<v Speaker 2>if it's something to do with that, you know, I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It seems like there's more to them than
<v Speaker 2>just flesh and blood. Now I believe they're flesh and blood,
<v Speaker 2>but I think there's something more to him.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, absolutely, And your husband's sitting next to you,
<v Speaker 1>and he can confirm a lot of these experiences, and
<v Speaker 1>he was there during a lot of it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean there's you know, there's a lot
<v Speaker 2>of stuff that me and him have experienced together, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, things that he has experienced. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>like I said, he heard wood knocks, you know, years
<v Speaker 2>before we bought the place. And when he first come
<v Speaker 2>out here hunting, him and his brother where they would
<v Speaker 2>hear the knox all the time. They'd be like, what
<v Speaker 2>is that? You know that?
<v Speaker 1>Uh?
<v Speaker 2>You know, and then you know, of course he's seen
<v Speaker 2>those tracks right at the beginning, you know, and he
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot was never on his mind back then. You know,
<v Speaker 2>he just didn't couldn't explain what it was he was seeing.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. So several people have heard the
<v Speaker 1>wooden knocks. Do you think it's like a warning?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think that they communicate that way. I mean
<v Speaker 2>what it means, I don't know if they're warning other
<v Speaker 2>people that there's somebody coming in or you know, letting
<v Speaker 2>people know or letting the other ones know, you know,
<v Speaker 2>hey there's somebody coming around, you know, be quiet or something.
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's what it makes me think, because I know,
<v Speaker 2>like when you know, I didn't hear a lot of
<v Speaker 2>knocks this summer, but the summer's prior, it was like
<v Speaker 2>every almost every time i'd be outside, you'd hear on
<v Speaker 2>and I was you know, there was one that come
<v Speaker 2>from the hill about seven hundred yards away. I recorded it.
<v Speaker 2>I mean that thing was loud. And then whenever Carrie
<v Speaker 2>was here, we decided that I would do like a
<v Speaker 2>pool scenario because it seemed like every time I'd get
<v Speaker 2>in a pool, that's when you stuff would start happening.
<v Speaker 2>You know, That's what I told him. And I told him,
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'd be willing to get in there and
<v Speaker 2>just see if anything happens, you know. And so I
<v Speaker 2>got in the pool and he told Paul, he said,
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and do what you usually would do, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And Carrie was sitting up here in front of the house.
<v Speaker 2>The other guy was down there ground level, and they
<v Speaker 2>were both filming, you know, across the field. And I
<v Speaker 2>took the net and I you know, skimmed the pool
<v Speaker 2>and I as soon as I hid it on the
<v Speaker 2>side of the pool to knock the leaves out across
<v Speaker 2>the power line over there, there was a tree. It went,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it come crashing down to the ground and
<v Speaker 2>Carrie I looked up at him and his eyes were
<v Speaker 2>you know, huge, and he was like, oh my god.
<v Speaker 2>And he looked at Paul was coming back up about
<v Speaker 2>that time, and he looked at Paul he said coincidence,
<v Speaker 2>He said, I don't think so. So they all took
<v Speaker 2>off over there, and Paul and carry went to the
<v Speaker 2>side of the power line where Paul fought that the
<v Speaker 2>tree fell at, and the other guy went to the
<v Speaker 2>other side. Well, as soon as they got over there,
<v Speaker 2>there was two knocks that come from the side that
<v Speaker 2>the other guy went. And it was in the way
<v Speaker 2>that hill is it's a hill and then it has
<v Speaker 2>like a big valley in the middle of the hill.
<v Speaker 2>And it came from down in that valley. And and
<v Speaker 2>when I say hill, these are you know, they're not mountains,
<v Speaker 2>but they're they're big hills there. They're steep enough in
<v Speaker 2>areas that you know, I've went up on I literally
<v Speaker 2>have to grab a hold of stuff and help pull
<v Speaker 2>myself up, you know. And it was down in that
<v Speaker 2>valley and Paul and carry was like, you know, they
<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe it because the knocks were loud. And the
<v Speaker 2>guy that went on the other side, he said it
<v Speaker 2>was so loud it sounded like a gunshot, you know,
<v Speaker 2>but I mean it wasn't a gunshot, but you know,
<v Speaker 2>he just said, that's how loud it was.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. You said, this is the foothills of
<v Speaker 1>the Ozarks. Yes, okay, yeah, I'm not too far away
<v Speaker 1>from you. Maybe I can come down someday and check
<v Speaker 1>it out for myself.
<v Speaker 2>Well, which, you know, one of Carrie Arnold's friends has
<v Speaker 2>kind of stepped in. You know, he's been coming out
<v Speaker 2>and you know, like doing some investigating and god, he's
<v Speaker 2>put together two documentaries about it. But I mean, you know,
<v Speaker 2>you'd be more welcome to come out. You know, I
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't care a bit in the world for you to
<v Speaker 2>come out. You know. The thing about it is, you know,
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of doing his own little thing, which now
<v Speaker 2>when he comes out, all he does can't because he
<v Speaker 2>knows that we don't do knocks, we don't do whoops,
<v Speaker 2>we don't try to do anything, you know, because we
<v Speaker 2>live here. I don't want to do anything to stir
<v Speaker 2>them up. And I know when Carrie was here, it
<v Speaker 2>was they had been out here, and it was day
<v Speaker 2>three when everything really started, you know, getting crazy. That
<v Speaker 2>was the day that he heard all the howling or
<v Speaker 2>the calls, and I walked out and heard the whoops.
<v Speaker 2>That was the day the tree came down and the knocks.
<v Speaker 2>And then that night we saw the lights in the
<v Speaker 2>power line. So it was like the you know, the
<v Speaker 2>first two days. The first night there was we heard
<v Speaker 2>some things. The second night, the second day we heard,
<v Speaker 2>you know, a couple of knocks, and now you know,
<v Speaker 2>and they went out you know, by their self, exploring
<v Speaker 2>as well. And because I remember him saying that he
<v Speaker 2>probably recorded at least twenty knocks while he was here.
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it was, but that day three, that
<v Speaker 2>was a very active that day. I think they was
<v Speaker 2>getting tired of them being here, is what I think.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very well could be. And do you have any
<v Speaker 1>other experiences that you'd like to share, anything else that
<v Speaker 1>you can think of?
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean there's like I can go on and
<v Speaker 2>on about stuff that has happened, but you know, like
<v Speaker 2>you know, it would take a long time to get
<v Speaker 2>through everything. You know, just you know, like the house,
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting hit. And then my sister in law
<v Speaker 2>came and stayed with me when Paul went bear hunting
<v Speaker 2>in October and we had some weird things. We heard
<v Speaker 2>whistling outside, she saw bright light in the window. So
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's pretty. I ain't gonna say
<v Speaker 2>every day, but there's a lot that happens.
<v Speaker 1>Does a lot more seem to happen whenever your husband
<v Speaker 1>is gone.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, especially you know, if I'm here by myself,
<v Speaker 2>which I don't stay the night out here by myself anymore.
<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. I tried whenever he because he
<v Speaker 2>goes on a bear hunting trip every year and I
<v Speaker 2>just can't do it. And so his sister, her husband
<v Speaker 2>works in another state. He's gone a lot, and so
<v Speaker 2>she comes out here and stays with me a lot,
<v Speaker 2>you know, or whenever he's gone. She's done that for
<v Speaker 2>the past two years. And in fact, last year when
<v Speaker 2>she came she wanted me to take her deer hunting.
<v Speaker 2>She had never been deer hunting. I was a little
<v Speaker 2>bit uneasy, you know, And I mean she understands. I
<v Speaker 2>mean she knows. She believes, you know, she she's never
<v Speaker 2>seen one, but she believes one hundred percent. And I said, well,
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'll go ahead and take you. Well, we
<v Speaker 2>had knocks, she saw an orb that night. We was
<v Speaker 2>sitting out front and she saw something shoot across the yard.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it was about forty foot up in the air.
<v Speaker 2>She said, I just seen a light go right through there.
<v Speaker 2>And but you know, we had was sitting in the
<v Speaker 2>stand and heard knocks and she's like, what's that. I said,
<v Speaker 2>that's a knock. She said, oh my god, you know,
<v Speaker 2>and it was close, you know. So, like I said,
<v Speaker 2>this past October, we heard the whistling and we could
<v Speaker 2>hear it from inside the house, whistling outside at night time.
<v Speaker 2>And then we uh, I heard a weird sound to
<v Speaker 2>the right side of the house. It was like something
<v Speaker 2>going hoo hoo hoo. But it wasn't an owl. I
<v Speaker 2>mean it was that was like that hoo hoo hoo,
<v Speaker 2>and my cat took off running over there. You're like
<v Speaker 2>looking And I got up and looked out the window,
<v Speaker 2>and I have security cameras, and I asked her. She said, oh,
<v Speaker 2>she said, I think it was the cat. She said,
<v Speaker 2>I just send your security camera go off. And I
<v Speaker 2>didn't think nothing about it. But then my phone didn't
<v Speaker 2>ding and so I looked on my phone. I said,
<v Speaker 2>my security camera didn't go off. She said, I just
<v Speaker 2>saw a big, a big bright light in that window.
<v Speaker 2>And I said, my security camera does a flashing light.
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't do a bright light, she said, and I
<v Speaker 2>showed her I turned the light on. She said, no,
<v Speaker 2>this was like a big bright light right in the window.
<v Speaker 2>I said, it was not my camera. She said, well,
<v Speaker 2>then what did I see? I said, I have no clue,
<v Speaker 2>but she said, it lit up the whole window, you know,
<v Speaker 2>the whole window that you know, it's just crazy stuff
<v Speaker 2>like this quite often.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it sounds like it, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I could sit here and go on
<v Speaker 2>and on. I know there's things I'm leaving out, but
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just it's just fairly active, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And I always tell them, you know, people might think
<v Speaker 2>this is crazy that you know. I'll sometimes when I
<v Speaker 2>walk outside, especially if I feel uneasy, I just say, look, y'all,
<v Speaker 2>back off and I just start praying, and you know,
<v Speaker 2>it makes me feel better, you know.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, absolutely, And Pamla, I really appreciate you for
<v Speaker 1>reaching out to me and sharing these encounters on sasquatch theory.
<v Speaker 1>It really means a lot.
<v Speaker 2>Well, You're very welcome, and I'm you know, and I'm
<v Speaker 2>glad to do it. I think it's important people know,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, and I know there's people out there
<v Speaker 2>that's probably just like me. I have the same stuff
<v Speaker 2>going on, you know, and you know, and if they
<v Speaker 2>listen to you and you know, maybe to help somebody,
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's why I do it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And if Mark ever needs a hand out there,
<v Speaker 1>tell them to reach out to me and I'll be
<v Speaker 1>glad to join them. Or if you just need another
<v Speaker 1>researcher to come out there, let me know.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, alrighty, I sure will.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I think that pretty well wraps everything up,
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you did an amazing job, and you certainly
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of stuff going on out there, so
<v Speaker 1>just make sure you keep your eyes peeled and you know,
<v Speaker 1>just watch out because you never know what these things
<v Speaker 1>are capable of.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know, he'll believe me. My head's always on
<v Speaker 2>a swivel.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has to be, because, yeah, you just don't
<v Speaker 1>know what else could be out there, and you just
<v Speaker 1>got to be mindful.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, believe me.
<v Speaker 1>I am well good. Yeah, and if anything else happens
<v Speaker 1>in the future, feel free to reach out to me
<v Speaker 1>and I'd certainly like to hear about it.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, alrighty, I sure will.
<v Speaker 1>Miguel, Okay, well, you and Paul have an excellent night,
<v Speaker 1>and thank you again for sharing all that with me.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're welcome, and thank you for having me on.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, and just reach out if you need anything.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, I sure will.
<v Speaker 1>All right, you have a good night, all right, you two.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Pam, thank you very much for sharing your
<v Speaker 1>encounters and experiences with me here on the channel, and
<v Speaker 1>they certainly sound terrifying. The Ozarks is a mysterious place
<v Speaker 1>and there are a lot of strange, cryptid creatures that
<v Speaker 1>live within its forest. I do believe the Native Americans
<v Speaker 1>knew a lot about this activity, and they were very
<v Speaker 1>aware of these creatures. A lot of people have written
<v Speaker 1>off the Native Americans and tossed them aside, but they
<v Speaker 1>knew what was going on out there, and they try
<v Speaker 1>to warn us. I think Christianity is a good guide
<v Speaker 1>to understand the world around you, but there are a
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that are being kept a secret, and
<v Speaker 1>I think if we knew more about what was going on,
<v Speaker 1>we could better defend ourselves and possibly understand the true
<v Speaker 1>nature of these creatures. It would certainly be interesting to
<v Speaker 1>go out there and research the property, but I have
<v Speaker 1>so many areas around here that I need to keep
<v Speaker 1>up with, and it's just difficult to maintain too many
<v Speaker 1>research areas. I would like to find an active bigfoot
<v Speaker 1>area in my county or somewhere close by, and I
<v Speaker 1>think that would be more ideal for the research that
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to conduct, and I think I'd be able
<v Speaker 1>to get out there a lot more frequently and keep
<v Speaker 1>up with the area. I wish the sasquatch would show
<v Speaker 1>back up to my property, and that would be the
<v Speaker 1>best opportunity but yeah, I appreciate everyone for listening and
<v Speaker 1>tuning in today. If you guys can like the video,
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you and take care.