#331- Snub Nose Revolvers: Small Guns, Serious Self Defense Power

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People love to blame their snub-nosed revolver when they miss, but the hard truth is the
inaccuracy is almost always your fault.

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If you miss your target, your defense plan fails when you need it most.

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Today we promise to help you master this reliable everyday tool and prove why it might
just beat your high-capacity pistol.

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Welcome to the Guns Podcast US, one of the world's biggest gun talk programs.

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Thanks for joining us as we talk about everything interesting in the world of shooting.

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I'm your host Brent Wheat and in today's episode we are diving into the history and
everyday utility of the classic snub-nosed revolver.

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My co-host Roy Huntington and I will explain why a simple wheel gun might be your best
daily carry choice and show you how to fix the common mistakes people make when shooting

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Now, let's get down to business.

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Well, hi there, Roy.

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Welcome to the program, as I've already welcomed the audience.

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And how are we doing today?

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I'm still alive, you know?

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I mean, at my age.

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I tripped and fell the other day, and I laughed so hard because my doctor said, well,
you're an idiot because at your age when you fall, you don't bounce anymore, you just go

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thud.

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Yeah.

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Gosh.

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I know.

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Oh, yeah.

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But you're still with us.

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You're not hearing Oregon music.

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You don't smell flowers.

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Life is good.

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hey, I was going to say we got a quick announcement and don't normally try to toot our own
horn too much, but this past weekend, I was at my state writers conference where I spoke

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on a couple of things, but they, like a lot of writer organizations have a yearly, oh it's
called a warden craft and Roy, I haven't told you this.

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We not only won second place, we won first place in the Hoosier Outdoor Writers 2026
Broadcast Contest in the podcast category.

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are the bomb.

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At least according to the Hoosier Outdoor Writers.

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uh Isn't that something?

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I guess we shouldn't act surprised, huh?

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Yeah.

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And I realize it's not like, you know, winning an Emmy or an Oscar or something.

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It's a state level writers organization, but I've been a long time member past president.

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I'm now the vice president of Hoosier Outdoor Writers, but I I've entered the last couple
of years and we've always won first place.

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didn't say anything last year, but this year people were bouncing me saying, can you let
somebody else win for a change?

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And I thought, let's, let's mention it.

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Cause it is nice to be honored for.

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doing what I think is pretty good work and certainly appreciate your contributions Roy.

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So we're award winners.

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Well, you know what?

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And it's especially among your peers, you know?

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's like, that's a tough audience, you know?

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Yeah, exactly.

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Congratulations.

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I think that's cool.

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Yeah.

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Same to you.

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So, okay, let's jump in.

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And this is one of those weeks where we've had a lot going on behind the scenes and we
literally

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Two seconds before I hit record Roy said, what are we going to talk about?

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And we kind of bounced that around and you, had a good idea and it's one of those we've
covered a lot, but it's one of those things that people always enjoy it.

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And today we're going to talk about the joys of Snubby's, the care, the feeding, the love,
the worship, the, the idolatry of, of snub nose revolvers.

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And we may not cover new ground or we may take a left turn completely off into a

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a strange new world we've never explored, but we're going to talk about them.

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And I got to say, okay, Roy, you came up with the topic today.

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um What is it about snub nose revolvers that you find as a veteran shooter so fascinating?

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You know, they're so cute sometimes.

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uh I mean, you just call the gun cute.

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I know what prompted this is that.

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I got a new gun recently.

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I'm holding it up.

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And if you can't see it, it's a 1957 vintage nickel plated Smith and Wesson I frame.

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That's called their terrier, right?

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So they're just, they're almost little and they're smaller than a J frame and they're just
elegant little beautifully made guns.

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This one's in 32 Smith and Wesson long, which of course has a huge following.

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And, uh, they're just irresistible.

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You know, I mean, I,

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It's it's boy Barbies, you know, did I just say that out loud?

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mean, I gotta say though, even though I kind of bounced you about calling it cute, it is
cute as a bug's ear.

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So if you're listening to the podcast, you need to run over to YouTube and take a gander
at Roy's new little little shooting iron.

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It's just, it's cute little thing.

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He's want to grab it, kind of tweak it cylinder and say, you know,

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And the thing is, is that we didn't invent this because, you know, I'm holding up a Ford,
what is it?

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Ford's worth and Ford and Wadsworth.

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can't hold my glasses on, it's a 18 seventies, 18 eighties circa precursor to the stubby,
know, it's a 38 rim fire, very small round butt, know, short barreled, uh, and

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You know, so there was a reason why they always had them.

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There's a reason why the Colt 31s, but I think they were the 1843s.

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Maybe somebody correct me in the comments if I am misremembering that.

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uh At the time of the gold rush, there were these like little tiny pocket pistols and they
outsold everything, you know?

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So obviously there's a hole there that they seem to fill and they still do.

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And I'm always amazed, you know, because if we talk about Snubby's, the comments always
just light up.

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Yeah, they certainly do.

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You know, you've already raised an interesting topic that I never thought about is when
you go back to the days of the old west, when you look at, know, the iconic gun is the

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Colt single action army.

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Everybody carried it five and seven eights or seven inch or sometimes the Ned bunt line
specials.

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But when you.

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look at the history and the firearms history, what was everybody actually carrying?

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They were carrying, they might have a single action, but it was a sawed off to a one or
two inch to a, some were called sheriff's models, shopkeeper models, and a whole bunch of

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those small guns you were talking about because they were so convenient.

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Every gentleman had something in his boot or in his front pocket.

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And uh so I guess the snubby was the unsung hero of the old West.

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As I think it still is today.

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mean, a lot of people, they, like you say, when they think old West guns, they
automatically think, know, Colt single actions, Roamington single actions, you know, the

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early break top Smith and Wessons and stuff like that.

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But the market was flooded with uh British and European small revolvers and you know, the
small bulldogs and the, mean, they were a dollar 50.

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you know, when a single actually was $17, which was a month's wage for a cowboy.

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Uh, and, and so that's actually what everybody, you know, everybody had one of those and,
uh, and a lot of the towns said that there was no gun carrying, but of course, like today,

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you know, people do anyway.

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so.

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You don't carry a seven and a half inch Colt single action around like that.

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You buy one of these little, you know, British bulldog, you know, revolvers, double action
revolvers and tuck that in your pocket.

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And so they're almost like the unsung heroes of the old West.

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Well, I've always been struck.

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I really find it fascinating.

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And I know you do too.

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Uh, we were just talking about some guys in the night or the 20th century in Missouri
that, uh, we'll talk about one of these days, but I love.

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finding these old uh cowboy or uh outlaw stories from the West that you'd never heard of
and yeah, know, bad Bill Jones was the terror of Reno, Nevada or whatever.

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I'm making it up.

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When you see those stories and you start reading about them and you read about the people
that he killed in his outlaw career,

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And it was funny that a lot of it was over card games.

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A lot of it was close range stuff.

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And it was, produced a pistol from his vest pocket and shot, you know, the victim twice
and he lingered for two days or whatever.

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But there's so many of those stories and we've not really talked about it, but the
shootout at high noon on the street virtually never happened.

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Again, one of them, the first was in Missouri, but that didn't happen very often.

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But a lot of times the shootings

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were over the Pharaoh game or the poker game in the saloon and it involved a little snubby
of some kind.

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know.

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I agree.

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I have seen old west guns that actually had the barrel taken off.

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So, know, cult single actions and the barrel was unscrewed.

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And so in an effort to make this gun as small as possible, you know, it actually works,
you know, for, for, as you say, if you're shooting across the

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Pharaoh table, you know, but I think it's interesting.

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The early Remington Derringers, the, I mean, Colt made a single shot, basically 22
Derringer.

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And it's almost like it's the, the, the gun that nobody wants to admit they have and use,
you know?

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So, uh, and, I think at many levels, snubbies are that way too, because I, I remember.

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I was at a gun site class years ago and it was a uh law enforcement class.

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there was all from the classroom was full of cops, right?

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And, and everybody has their full size holster guns and that's what we're shooting here.

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And then, uh, I was doing something, I was making a presentation about something.

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I don't remember what it was, but I said, I said, you know, just out of curiosity, um, who
here has a small frame revolver on them right now?

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And it was like,

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Everybody kind of looks at each other, right?

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And slowly start racing and start coming up, know, cause they're afraid it's like, I'm a
pistol arrow and everything, but really, you know, have a J frame and you're tucked in

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your boot or in your pocket.

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then, so we went out on the line and then I asked what everybody produced, what it is
you've got, you know, it was the J frames.

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Smith and Wesson's were predominant.

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There was a couple of old cult detective specials.

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One guy sheepishly admitted that he had a J-frame and a North American arms, little single
action, you know, Yep.

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And, and, and so it is, it's like, it's the gun that nobody wants to admit that they
carry.

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And, uh, but I think that they, they appeal to that some gun is better than none gun, you
know, syndrome.

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I just was reading something in a comment about one of the videos that we did.

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Uh, Oh, was about calibers and is, a 32 good enough?

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You know, I mean, will a 22 protect you?

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You know, that was quite popular.

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And there was a cop that said that, uh, North American arms, 22 saved his life when he
pulled it as a backup gun, you know, and he

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Yeah.

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And what he said was, you know, all these people argue about stopping power and all that
other kind of stuff was he said, you know, you shoot somebody with something and that

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almost always solves whatever the problem is.

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know, and he's right.

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So I think that's what's cool about snubbies is the fact that there, if you get something
from 32 up to whatever size 45 Colt, you have an adequate cartridge.

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in a platform that is virtually a hundred percent effective.

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mean, you know, if you do any maintenance at all on your revolver, it's going to work, you
know?

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And I mean, I know too many instances of old ladies take the 32 H &R top break from their
bedside table that their husband left there when he died years before, you know, and they

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pick it up and they shoot a burglar with it.

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And so I was going to say, just had a story like that.

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Not too long ago, she had to pull the trigger like five or six times to get around that
actually went off.

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But the one that went off took care of the problem.

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And I'm trying to think who told us that it was me about it or something.

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Yeah, it me.

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Yeah.

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It was an actual case.

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And it was a, it's just like, you know, an 85 year old lady and she was actually getting
raped by this, you know, crystal attic dirt bag guy.

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And, she was able to get her hand into the drawer next to the bed.

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And she took out the old 32 Smith and Wesson H &R top brake that her husband had bought in
like 1921, know, loaded it with five shots and put it in the drawer.

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And that's where it had sat all these years.

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And so she held it right up against the side of his head and started pulling the trigger.

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I guess it was a six shot because it was five duds and then one went off.

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Uh, wow.

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Scramble that solved the problem.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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And, you know, what was funny too, I talked to the investigators who investigated it and
they said that she was completely, what's the right word?

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Non plus by at all.

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Like didn't bother her at all.

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Yeah.

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Not at all.

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I mean, didn't she went right back to knitting, you know, I mean, it was like, Okay.

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shit happens.

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there was another successful deployment of a, know, of a snubby revolver.

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I'm seeing more interest among younger people.

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see it in the comments.

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Yeah.

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Have you noticed that?

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Yeah.

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see.

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I think they're sort of timing out on polymer pistols.

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I'm also noticing a real move toward the high capacity 1911 platforms, you know, the, the
2011s and the

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I'm going everybody who are building those nowadays.

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uh a lot of that is coming from the weekend competitors.

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Uh, they're realizing that, know what, man, you have a really crisp single action and,
and, and you can shoot that better than your clock, you know, or generally.

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And, uh, and so there's a real move toward that, but what that's doing, it seems to be
opening the door up now.

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Uh,

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And they're, and they're looking at these other older, more interested guns.

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Plus I think as they get a little bit older, they realize, you know, I want to carry a
concealed carry gun and I don't really want to carry this 2011 or my full size clock or

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my, know, and, short of a small pocket auto, uh, you know, what are your options?

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And so your options are good quality pocket revolver.

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And I think today's, mean, it seems like I'm always seeing announcements from.

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Taurus and Smith and Wesson of a new, you know, small frame revolver.

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Smith and Wesson just announced a new chief special, you know, uh, I mean, they're,
they're, they're almost constant.

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You know, I noticed Taurus, I think it was Taurus just announced a single action, like a
full size looking single action army.

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Yeah.

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And so it's like, there's a reason why this stuff stays and it's because it's interesting
people like them, uh, and

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I think for older guys like you and I who carried small frame revolvers as policemen, uh
to me, they're reassuring at some level.

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mean, it's like when I know the J-frame is in my pocket, it's a predictable companion for
lack of a better explanation.

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mean, it's like, know.

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And yes, an auto pistol, I have an LCP Max I carried all the time, but.

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way in the back of my brain, teeny tiny bit in the back of my brain, I always worry that
it might not work.

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It's like, is it going to jam on me for some reason?

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If I've got a small revolver in my pocket, I never ever think about that at all.

219
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Exactly.

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Well, I got to say, and we've talked about it quite a bit, but

221
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I'd say it's been about a year and a half since I went what I'd say full time, the 38
pocket carry.

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And it has literally gotten to the point that it's like, oh, I have a gun in my pocket.

223
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And suddenly I'm in a situation where, you know, it would have been easy not to carry a
gun, but I've got one.

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And if something happens and it was weird, the other day I was thinking about it, I got
surprised by something and it wasn't really a threat, but had it gone that direction, you

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know, I was thinking, what would I do?

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And I thought,

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I've got five in the revolver.

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I got five in a speed strip in my pocket.

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I got 10 rounds.

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That will truly, just, was this overwhelming feeling of I had it handled.

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And that to me is the beauty of that pocket carry, the snubby.

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And it's literally become a part of me.

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uh I used to, if I was working in the yard, digging and all that stuff, a lot of times I
would have a gun near me, but I wouldn't have it on my person.

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which isn't really an answer, but that's what I chose to do.

235
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And now I was literally digging some uh drainage ditches in the backyard when it was
raining and trying to get some drainage problems fixed, had the gun on me.

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I was dealing with my koi pond that I built in the backyard, had the gun on me.

237
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And uh it was just, it is such a part of me now that I don't even think about it.

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When I get up, it goes in my pocket.

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And before I go to bed,

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I take it out and that's it's just literally it's like my wedding ring or my watch.

241
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It's just something that's with me all the time.

242
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And I think the beauty of it is I always carried a compact nine a lot.

243
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But now the fact that I don't even have to think, Oh, grab my gun and go to the store.

244
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It's like, I've got a gun on me all the time.

245
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And it just, it's the more I do it, the more comfortable I feel with it.

246
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And the more I feel even better about

247
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I'm prepared if something really goes sideways.

248
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So, it all, both know it happened so fast too.

249
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Cause people, you know, it's like you working in your backyard.

250
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It's like you hear sirens, you hear the crash of a car out front.

251
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You hear something hit your fence and then now suddenly there's some dirt bag in your
backyard.

252
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know, holding the knife being chased by the cops and he just crashed out front.

253
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And I think that's the part that people don't understand how fast these things happen.

254
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that, you know, see that somebody reporting.

255
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And I didn't have my phone on silent.

256
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I owe you a case of beer.

257
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That's right.

258
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yeah, people don't, they don't understand how, just how fast these things happen.

259
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so, uh, think Darrell Bulkey says it well when, when like a snubby is a get off me gun.

260
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know I mean?

261
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Cause it's, I'm.

262
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I'm not going to engage the armed robber in the store.

263
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You know, if he's taking the money and he's getting it and then he leaves, know, that's
that I'll wave goodbye, you know, uh, I mean, if he decides he's going to hurt somebody

264
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then okay, well, that kind of forces my hand.

265
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I'll take whatever action I can.

266
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But even then, mean, two, three shots pretty much what 99.

267
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9 % of the time ends whatever the thread is, you know, and Nobody wants to be shot
Condition it's like I've got a big hole that's bleeding Maybe I need to go do something

268
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else or at least run away and that it truly is about 99 % of it I know we practice for
that, you know, the really enraged bad guy who's crazy and he keeps coming but that's

269
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generally not what happens and and if he does we got

270
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four more shots in that little J frame.

271
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So yeah, I'll never say that it's completely adequate for every situation, but, but, but
gosh, you know, I mean, it's a bit like an adjustable wrench.

272
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you know, is a dedicated socket set with snap on sockets better?

273
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Probably yes, more than like, you know, but if you just need to get this nut off of this
bolt and you have an adjustable wrench, well, the chances are pretty good.

274
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You're going to be able to do it, you know?

275
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And so

276
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So, you know, that, that small frame revolver in your pocket is your adjustable wrench,
you know, for that day.

277
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And I mean, people always, I just answered a question this morning from a friend of mine
and he said, he said, you know, I'm really worried.

278
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I've been carrying this nine millimeter, some little polymer pocket pistol thing.

279
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And he said, I'm just, I, I really am more comfortable with a 45 and he sent me a link.

280
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found some.

281
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90s era Smith and Wesson.

282
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I don't, forget what it was called, like a 45 10.

283
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was when they made the, just the terrible pistols.

284
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Remember those with a safety hammer drop on the slide, you know, their ergonomics was
terrible.

285
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Their quality control was terrible.

286
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Uh, and it was like a chief, they called it a chief special, I think even, but it was a
45.

287
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They said, yeah.

288
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I'm thinking I see a good one of these on gun broker.

289
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was thinking of getting one of those and I just went stop.

290
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And so I had the conversation with him about, well, actually a good nine millimeter load
is fine.

291
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And there's no appreciable difference between them all, which always develops into a fist
fight in the comments.

292
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So I apologize.

293
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So go ahead and fist fight if you want to, but, and.

294
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So the reality is a 38 special snubby, a 32 Magnum stubby, a 44 special, you know, snubby.

295
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Like that one I held up this Charter Arms 45 Colt.

296
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I mean, that should put anybody's mind at ease.

297
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You know, if you insist that that's what you need, well then here's one.

298
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know, so get the flavor that you like in the caliber you like, but really,

299
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you know, a 38 special with a good ammunition that would just really do just about then
learn how to shoot the darn thing, you know?

300
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And that's the key.

301
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that's I got at our disclaimer.

302
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Like you said, Roy, there will be some kind of fist fight in the comments.

303
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But, you know, our theory is carry what you want, use what you want, just be able to shoot
the darn thing.

304
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And we're just saying in this case.

305
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having something in your pocket is a heck of a lot better than having a custom 1911 with a
TV set on top and a laser range designator and a wind speed and humidity detector setting

306
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on your bedside table because it's too big and bulky to carry.

307
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So I agree.

308
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again, we've talked about this before and I'm going to go on record and say this is that
people almost always say, well,

309
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the, like I've made some videos shooting small frame guns like this out to 25, 50, even a
hundred yards.

310
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And people say, well that's stupid.

311
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They're not made for that.

312
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You know, you should only be, they're made for just a close, uh, or else other people say
they're not accurate.

313
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That's why I'll never carry one.

314
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Uh, and generally when you, when you ask you about it, cause you know, they'll say, well,
you know, mine is so inaccurate.

315
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It'll shoot 10 inch groups at seven yards.

316
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And.

317
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I mean, I'm sorry, there is no snubby revolver that will shoot that poorly.

318
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There, there isn't any, if they had no rifling in the barrel, they would shoot better than
that.

319
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You know, so, so it's, it's operator error across the board virtually every single time.

320
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And I think if you have a small frame revolver and you challenge yourself to learn how to
shoot it well, you know, to where you're shooting decent groups.

321
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10 yards or 15 yards.

322
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Uh, that's very rewarding.

323
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And it also gives you confidence in the gun to be able to shoot more accurately.

324
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Uh, when the situation is, is more fluids, shall we say, right?

325
00:26:07,938 --> 00:26:19,656
Cause if you're shooting, yeah, if you're shooting teacup size groups at, at 10 yards,
taking your time now, when your heart's thumping and your things are happening, uh, and

326
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that group now becomes a foot.

327
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you know, dispersion, well that you're still going to be effective as opposed to if you
start out being a foot and now introduce the stress.

328
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Now that becomes three feet, you know, and, suddenly you're missing the target.

329
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I got to say that it's, it's painful to understand, but one of the things I see
periodically in comments is people get really upset when we say it's the shooter, not the

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gun.

331
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I completely and utterly agree with Roy.

332
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that if you take that gun that just won't shoot and you put it in a ransom rest, you're
going to be really embarrassed because suddenly you'll find out that it does shoot and

333
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it's, as we always say, the loose nut behind the gun.

334
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um There's very few people that can shoot up to the level of accuracy of their firearm.

335
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And we need, for those of us who think, no, it's the gun, it's not me.

336
00:27:14,596 --> 00:27:15,476
What's that old saying?

337
00:27:15,476 --> 00:27:17,467
It's the poor carpenter that blames his tools.

338
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Well, it's the same thing with a pistol arrow.

339
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If you think it's the gun's fault, you're going to have to work long and hard to prove to
me that it really is the pistol's fault.

340
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And that's why I always say, instead of buying great accessories and big new toys and a
new gun, invest in ammo.

341
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That's, that's when you're going to start turning heads and people going, man, that guy
can shoot.

342
00:27:37,952 --> 00:27:40,743
uh Well, you're right.

343
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That's what it's all about.

344
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I did a video on a model 12, a two inch model 12.

345
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So that's a round butt K frame size gun, lightweight.

346
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in 38 special, it's a marvelous little, you know, small frame gun or more snubby.

347
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And so I shot it with Black Hills target wide cutters that I think I was shooting at 50
yards and we did very casually.

348
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I showed the gun we talked about a little bit.

349
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It's a good gun.

350
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I shoot it.

351
00:28:05,944 --> 00:28:07,226
Well, I shot a group.

352
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The group was maybe teacup size, you know, uh, and it always amazes me when the comments
are full of like, holy crap, man, I can't believe how you shot that, you know,

353
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It's like, I, mine doesn't shoot like that.

354
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:26,234
You know, and it's like, well, actually it could shoot like that, you know?

355
00:28:26,234 --> 00:28:26,985
Yeah.

356
00:28:26,985 --> 00:28:28,937
Uh, so I don't know.

357
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mean, if you were, if you were broken down somewhere and you needed a wrench for something
and I was driving by and I said, well, I don't have a snap on socket set, but I have this

358
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$4 Harbor freight adjustable wrench.

359
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You know, I mean.

360
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I know people, you know, there are people in the gun world that would look at that and
say, no, thank you.

361
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I am only going to use a snap on wrench, you know, uh, rather than saying, okay, well,
this is a tool at hand.

362
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Thank you.

363
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I appreciate that.

364
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And I'll put this tool to use.

365
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And so I think snubbies are that way.

366
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If all you can afford is a charter arms, basic, you know, charter arms, undercover 38
special, you find one on sale for $275 or something.

367
00:29:12,992 --> 00:29:24,087
Well, you know what, just go ahead and if that's what buy one, you know, and as Brent
says, and you buy a bunch of ammo or a Lee reloading set and, uh, and learn to shoot it.

368
00:29:24,087 --> 00:29:26,968
And I, it will become a lifetime companion.

369
00:29:26,968 --> 00:29:28,068
really will.

370
00:29:28,068 --> 00:29:34,091
You know, I mean, I've got a J frame that I've probably carried on and off for 50 years.

371
00:29:36,232 --> 00:29:36,927
Well, okay.

372
00:29:36,927 --> 00:29:37,662
I got a laugh.

373
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Didn't charter arms have the undercover at that's about my favorite.

374
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snubby name ever, if not gun name ever.

375
00:29:46,018 --> 00:29:49,298
Well, I actually, I have one.

376
00:29:49,798 --> 00:29:54,118
so it's a, they're a little undercover, but it's in 32 magnum.

377
00:29:54,118 --> 00:29:57,718
I like it because it holds six shots as opposed to five shots.

378
00:29:57,718 --> 00:30:01,718
And so I got one, it weighs 13 ounces.

379
00:30:01,718 --> 00:30:05,678
I mean, you really literally, if it's in your pocket, you don't even know it.

380
00:30:05,678 --> 00:30:11,490
You know, it's like you go around, you look for your gun and then you realize, wait, there
it's in my pocket already, you know.

381
00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:20,510
So, yeah, and so I did the first one, I smoothed it up and showed it to my wife, Susie,
and she just looked at me and she said, thanks.

382
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:31,110
And so she took that one and I had to get another one and I actually bought one at retail
at Brandon's and then did You bought one at retail?

383
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:33,130
I know, don't tell anybody.

384
00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:37,110
I'll never admit that in public, you know, but I did.

385
00:30:39,522 --> 00:30:43,205
I mean, that is actually my go-to snubby these days.

386
00:30:43,265 --> 00:30:47,058
And I have a uh Ruger LCP Max that's always in my pocket.

387
00:30:47,058 --> 00:30:58,998
But if I have my vest on, you know, just like a regular carry vest, I generally have that
little charter arms in a pocket holster on the left inside pocket of the vest.

388
00:30:58,998 --> 00:31:01,820
Because think about this, now you're driving your car.

389
00:31:02,201 --> 00:31:04,983
You really can't get your pocket gun out.

390
00:31:05,344 --> 00:31:06,304
know, right.

391
00:31:06,304 --> 00:31:08,736
mean, without a lot of shenanigans.

392
00:31:08,826 --> 00:31:13,788
and uh unbuckle your seatbelt, straighten your leg out, by then you're dead.

393
00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:22,472
oh So if you drive and you have a pocket gun, wear a lightweight vest and then that has an
inside pocket.

394
00:31:22,472 --> 00:31:23,723
Makes sense.

395
00:31:23,723 --> 00:31:27,814
Then that way you can just reach across your inside pocket and now you can go to work if
you have to.

396
00:31:27,814 --> 00:31:30,636
Plus it gives you not one, but what?

397
00:31:30,636 --> 00:31:32,016
Two guns.

398
00:31:32,596 --> 00:31:33,977
Exactly.

399
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:35,517
I will say same thing.

400
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,792
I realize you cannot get your gun out.

401
00:31:38,792 --> 00:31:42,245
that's why I have a the way my vehicle is set up.

402
00:31:42,245 --> 00:31:45,157
I can have a full size gun right next to me.

403
00:31:45,157 --> 00:31:48,290
And that's even quicker than uh presenting a gun.

404
00:31:48,290 --> 00:31:49,531
It's just it's right there.

405
00:31:49,531 --> 00:31:52,163
So that's that's a good point to talk about.

406
00:31:52,163 --> 00:31:53,885
Well, good stuff.

407
00:31:53,885 --> 00:31:58,909
We've reached our time limit, but I'm going to offer a challenge to the audience.

408
00:31:58,909 --> 00:32:00,170
uh

409
00:32:00,170 --> 00:32:12,159
We get a lot of comments, we read the comments, we uh find them very interesting and it's
fun even sometimes when folks argue back and forth providing it's kept uh civil and

410
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respectful.

411
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:22,137
uh What I want this time this week is I want to see comments from folks supporting uh
Snuppies and Pocket Guns.

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And we get some of those and then we'll get the, well, you people.

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I want to see what our audience says about why they carry or want to carry or have carried
in the past a Snubby especially a pocket gun or vest gun something like that and I want to

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hear people talk about their experience and I'd certainly like to hear if you had a
failure But I'd also like to hear successes if you can talk about that So I think that'll

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be interesting if you're on YouTube leave us a comment tell us uh Let's everybody maybe
change sides this week and talk about

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why you think it's a good idea.

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And uh if you're listening on audio podcast, you can always reach out uh editor at guns
podcast.us.

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So Roy, any final thoughts before we tip on out of here in the award winning program that
we are.

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I think if you have a small frame revolver or two and you haven't shot it in a while, get
it out and dust it off, uh blow the dust buffaloes out and uh

420
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You know, and think about what it is and think about how you would apply it and, and see
if it actually can become a part of whatever your concealed carry, you know, idea is, you

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know, just, I mean, literally about two or three weeks ago, there's a sheriff, uh, near me
here and we're friends and he brought a model 60.

422
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So it's a J frame 38 that he's carried for about 30 years.

423
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And.

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So he brought it over and he said, you know, it's like a little rough, you know, can you
look at it for me?

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And I said, sure.

426
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And it was just like this terrible filthy, you know, uh a little rough.

427
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uh It was a little rough, right?

428
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And I, so I pulled the action and I just, you know, hardly pull it through.

429
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I said, yeah, why don't you leave it with me?

430
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And I have pictures.

431
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I took it apart and it was literally packed full of

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of dust and grit and crap that had hardened, you know, to where there was like a little
area where the hammer could move in a little area where the trigger could move and stuff.

433
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It was hysterical.

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I'll send you the pictures after we're done.

435
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And uh so I cleaned it all out and lubed it up and, you know, put it all back together and
clean the cylinder off and it made a huge difference.

436
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So when he picked it up, his eyes just lit up and he said, I showed him the pictures.

437
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said, wow.

438
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He said, I'm a little embarrassed by that.

439
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And I said, yeah, you should be, you know, but it was a real testimony.

440
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You know, it was a real testimony to the breed.

441
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Uh, and he admitted to me, says, you know, I've gone in the river several times with this
on, uh in an ankle ulcer.

442
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And he said, and I never, he said, I've never had it apart, never cleaned the inside.

443
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He said that he's never even lubed it, you know, like.

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Lube the inside.

445
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I mean, Pete, can cock the hammer, like squirt a little oil down in there every once in a
while, but he said, no, I've never done that.

446
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You know?

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So I know, but the darn thing still works.

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So if you have one, get out, shoot it, trust it, have some fun.

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That wraps up our look at the trusty snub-nosed revolver.

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Now on behalf of the team at Guns Magazine and my co-host Roy Huntington, I'm Brent Wheat
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