Angie Martinez IRL - Nikki & Brie Bella on WWE, Divorce, Reinvention & Who They Are Now

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Speaker 1: You actually had no idea what was going to happen, But in our heads were like, Okay, I'm Breezy for Shezi, You're Nicole for show with the Garcia twins.

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Speaker 2: You were just down for whateb And then when they're like you need to get in bikinis in the sonata, like Luterian, where did you bring me?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for watching, guys. Today's episode is brought to you by Boost Mobile. Most people spend their whole lives looking for somebody who truly knows them, who truly gets them. These two were born with that. They came up together, trained together, became two of the most recognized women in the history of professional wrestling, two time Divas Champions, WWE Hall of Famers, reality TV stars, entrepreneurs, mothers, and now they are back in the ring for what they say is the final time.

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Speaker 2: It is the final fru.

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Speaker 4: Nikki and Bribella.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, Hello, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: One of the reasons I'm so excited today. I've never had twins on the pod.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, you're about to get weirded out.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm so excited her.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm excited about that because I I have questions, because I think your life experience is so much different than somebody who can like, I don't know, just I'm sure your experience is unique, something that twins probably only know, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, yes, I mean even something as simple that people don't realize is we never experienced the first day of school alone, so we always had someone to walk in and those like scary moments as a child, when you're gonna walk into a birthday party you're like, you are my friends here or school or any of that.

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Speaker 2: I always had her.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like at a young age, having those awkward insecure moments, we really didn't have them as much because having each other gave us confidence. So just like those things molding us at a young age, I think different what we call singulars.

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Speaker 2: They're non twins, which she calls singulars. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think it's actually a scientific we're the singulars.

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Speaker 4: Oh, got it?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: But there has to be another side to that, these complications that come with anything good, right, there's always another stufe for sure.

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Speaker 1: Always being compared, always being compared, and like being compared physically mentally, like how we were in soccer, like being compared on the soccer field, even in the wrestling ring. Anything we do, it's like we get compared and it's interesting because it's like we're not clones, we're twins.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder if it's sometimes it's ever in your live's been a problem or something you had to work out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband, I guess I know he probably needs to work it out for Breen. I not only are we identical twins, but we're best friends.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We also yeah, and we are also great business partners. So I mean, we definitely, especially in the past two decades, have had to really learn each other's strengths and weakness and like, hey, that crossed the line. And even though i'm your twin boundaries, we've got to go to like twin therapy for that therapy. Well no, but we made it to therapy and were like a life she's just regular therapy. Right, you have therapy with a life coach. You will help us through business things. And we do our twin sessions because we would just need help with that because because we humble each other, we do very quickly. And then we'll go get coffee. Like since I just cut you blur the belt, let's go grow coffee.

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Speaker 3: So I have these one set of friends that I have that are twins. I know one of them a little bit better than the other, but we have a very close mutual friend so I spend time with them on trips and things like that. You have a very meaningful conversation at dinner, and then I don't see her for six months, and then I think I just ran into her in the airport and it wasn't her. And so from my experience from the outside, from the singular person, I'm like, oh God.

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Speaker 4: That was awkward. I was talking to her as if it was her and it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: But then I think, what does that feel like from the inside, as you're like navigating, like you have a meaningful moment with somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but she plays into it.

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Speaker 1: Someone thinks she's bree and they'll have like a conversation with her.

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Speaker 2: She just will go with it. Where I right in the beginning, I'm like, oh, I'm Breed, not Nikki.

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Speaker 3: But there's nothing internally that happens to you or makes you feel insecure.

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Speaker 2: Well, for me, I feel bad. The only reasons sometimes I won't correct people is if either I feel bad or I know like I need to get like out of there quick. So I don't want it to turn into like, oh my gosh, I thought you were Brie, and then that'd be the whole conversation.

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Speaker 4: You just go with it.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I do find interesting and what I love is if she does have her own friends and has like meaningful relationships, because we have a couple of our own, Like we have our core group of best friends, but we have a couple out of that that we're closer with. But if like we need that, yeah, not always, like we need to hear a different point of view, someone who is in experiencing everything that we have, and especially since the womb, it's like we've gone through everything together, right and now you know, like even in life, like with.

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Speaker 2: Business and wrestling and motherhood. So I think it's really nice for us to kind of have separation like that. I also feel we have such different personalities, but we also love hanging out with each other, which makes it more like best friends. So we've been able to do this life together. Because it's funny. I look at Brie, I feel like, at times more of a bestie than a a twin. Really well, I don't know how I think, because I like kicking it with her so much, just like my best friends. But I think this is why don't you think this is why we've worked for so long, because like, for instance, we do have our own best friends where my personality meshes more with some and yours with others. Yeah, but then we're all like get together and we're all like the crew for sure. Well, we've got twins who don't like each other, and I'm like, like, I don't get it. I don't understand that that's who had to be so fortunate.

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Speaker 1: But they're insecure by the comparison, is what I feel like. And for us, we're each other's like biggest cheerleader.

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Speaker 2: Like like if I don't get I want her to get something right and vices.

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Speaker 1: And I also really a big key to it right, a huge, huge And I was comfortable knowing that my weaknesses are her strengths. And I'm okay because I had things like she was. When it came to the soccer field, she stood out more in the skill set.

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Speaker 2: But then I also had this other and none took you through the years just kidding. Yeah, I know you're kidding, because I can care less, but like I also had this like artsy side to me and this expression that like thing right, and my mom was good at like noticing that and kind of being like how strong your sister is in these things, and like, oh my gosh, look at how artsy Brie is in this. So I think some twins can't They get so deep in that comparison that they kind of, you know, forget, like it's not competition with each other. It's like you know right well. And I do feel like though, that's why sports are so great for kids growing up, because you get used to whether it's teamwork or being a team and like doing things together, or if you play individual sports, like if you're a truck runner, you learn competition, but you learn that respect of other people you're competing against if you're at a competitive level. And I feel like that helped us a lot too, Like we went through a lot in sports, and I think that's helped us. That's helped us for sure succeed in this industry. We've had our runs as a tag team and individual for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well your parents did a great job. Yes, what do you like if somebody just has young twins right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, what do you tell them about.

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Speaker 3: How to navigate that world and so that they can have this type of connection and.

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Speaker 2: I'm in different classes. Really, I think you need that as much as just I think it helped, yeah, recognizing the individual parts of them. Yes, I think sometimes you know twins, it's it's hard not to have fun with them dressing identical. Like my mom didn't wear babies up until I went to her in kindergarten. I was like, I don't want to dress it like anymore. I don't want to be a twin. Wow.

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Speaker 1: My mom was like, oh okay, and then instantly you saw me. When my sister and I got to decide what we wanted to whar. She was a straight up tomboy and I was very girly. So I think you need to have twins express themselves because they are going to express themselves differently, right, and so parents need to like, I know it's cute to have twins, but like let that you know happen, right.

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Speaker 2: And I also the thing being in different classes starting third grade, because then you get used to doing things on your own extrum, Like homework was different walking to a class by yourself without like having your sister always there your twin. I think that really helped us. Starting third grade. We were never in the same class, not even in I don't even think in college.

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Speaker 1: We took and then the one time we were in the same class in eighth grade, I got in trouble a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we'd like and then they had a separate us around with each other. We would prank each other and the teacher goes, this is, yeah, not going to work. I think we're so excited to be in a class together. So we just because I was like the first time ever every day and we ruined it. It was for the best.

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Speaker 3: So that's great advice though, then, yeah, is to let them have their own identity, Yes.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 1: And I think as parents we get really caught up because we become like uber drivers that were like, what's just easy, Like let's just put them all on one sport or one activity together because it's easy to do the drop off and the pickup. There's always going to be a child that's missing out on something that's actually their strengths if you're just going to be following your twin or your sibling. And so I find that it's really important to see what each kid's into, Like my daughter, so artistic.

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Speaker 2: She hates sports.

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Speaker 1: And she's a fashion e stet and then my son's all about sports. But I'm not going to, you know, have them all at the same field. Yeah, super busy, but it's kind of fun the different conversations and the different activities I get to do with each child.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, I get that. What about when she's like, what about when one is hurt, like your sister has what is happening with your foot by the way, right, Yeah, this is not an ideal time for you.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. Oh, I've been super bummed out about it. So as I now it's a sprained ankle, we don't know if it's a high sprain or something else. So I got an MRI and waiting for the results. What happened in our match on Friday? So we had it was our second tag match back together, and it happened right in the beginning of the match, and I finished the match. I can't believe I finished the match, and I stressed out. My poor sister mased.

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Speaker 1: My second match back in eight years, like so much anxiety and her first tag. So she tags me and as I'm about to come and she goes, oh, I think I broke my ankle. We're on live television. I was like, huh. I was like, do we need to call my cat?

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Speaker 4: Did you really think it was break broken?

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Speaker 2: I thought it possibly could be because I've had a break before and the rush that was like going through my calf and I couldn't put weight on it. I was like, oh, I think you just broke my ankle, and just how it felt. I just knew something was wrong. But I knew this was like bit starting the story to WrestleMania. So in my head, I knew there were girls in the back waiting to run in. I knew there was just a lot of women a part of this match, and I didn't want to let anyone down. But it's still in like ten twelve minutes to go, and I was like, my goodness, so, by the way, yeah, I'm such a pleaser. So every time I would tag in, I was like, no, it's really broken. Breathe like it's broken. And the girl who were like beating up is like put me in a hold, like she's like, wait, it's her ankle broken and yeah, and wondering like a double supplex like we're I think it's sometimes pray the worst pain I've ever felt over a broken neck put in a double supplex a that yeah, yeah, because I just choice but to put weight on it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So you have a very high pain tolerance, very high pain toleran.

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Speaker 4: I need to understand this.

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Speaker 3: These two young twins decide to go this right. Know, you did soccer and sports sports all the time. When you first told your mother that, like, how did wrestling? It's not a thing you think women are.

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Speaker 4: Going to know get into. It's like this as your mom when she's first year, like.

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Speaker 2: Now, yes, but not that yes now because this is well now you've changed the game.

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Speaker 4: But I mean then totally.

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Speaker 1: And this is before social media when we got into it. So the only time you could watch wrestling was on television.

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Speaker 2: But your fans yes, well and Nikki and I.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because it goes back to yes, we were soccer players, but one thing we loved doing is we loved dressing up as a spice girls. And when my parents would have boxing parties, we're like, when it's intermission, we're gonna lip sink for all your friends. But we loved performing, and like when it'd be the holidays and we knew family was coming, we'd spend all day doing it, perform practicing, and we always perform. So we were Hooter girls right out of high school.

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Speaker 2: And we'd always watch the wrestling, like the pay per views. Well, even how we got drawn to Hooters was crazy, and we knew we had to pay for a lot of things, like college books is ridiculous. We're like, this is like a month of brunt. So we needed a waitressing job. And the state of California, if a restaurant has hard alcohol, you have to be twenty one or older to be a bartender or server. So Hooters was the only place I didn't have heard alcohol, just beer and wine, so you could be eighteen or older to work there. So we were like when we heard that, we were like do we do it? Should we go in? Because we had never been into Hooters before.

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Speaker 4: Well, and so we didn't even know what you were walking into.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. We got like big padded bras because we were like, oh, you need Hooters to work at Hooters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was like why I look back and I'm like, we're crazy. So this is where we made our bestest friends in the whole wide world. And we're all still close and when people ask us we're met now, we're proud, like, well, I mean I always say college. Breen. I was like, no, we always go Hooters. University. Yeah, friends get mad. But we all came from the same story of like, shoot, we need to pay for books, but I don't know about this. So yeah, and we'd see wrestling.

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Speaker 1: Well then we saw a couple of years you know, into that, we saw there were they were on a search for diva, so female wrestlers, and for a lot of people who maybe watch Glow on Netflix, you kind of can have an idea what it looked like.

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Speaker 2: You showed up and.

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Speaker 1: You you actually had no idea what was going to happen. But in our heads were like, Okay, I'm Breezy for Sheazy, you're Nicole for show with the Garcia Twins, and like we're like, came tough. We had bandanas, are you like physically well, we thought.

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Speaker 2: So you know we're going to show up, We're gonna be fighting today, and I'm like, all right, let's do this. But it was ever done that before they wrestled each other, but we just thought we'd just go scrapping up. We just thought, like I don't know what we're thinking. When we were standing in line, like I just thought they were going to call us out to fight someone, Like I literally was just prepared, I guess to do it. You would just down for web down. And then when they're like you need to get in bikinis and this and that, I like looked at her. Where did you bring me? I know? And then it was more about like let's see the bodies. They're like telling me to get a boob job, and I was like excuse me, and like then they're like cut a promo and your sister, I'm like what It was way different, way different. I like was Brie and I Oh, I just remember leaving. They're like what was that? It was just crazy, But there was someone who There was this woman there who actually and I give her a lot of credit because she saw Nicole and I kind of walk out of there demoralized.

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Speaker 1: We were just like, Okay, that was weird. But she saw a lot of potential. But she also didn't like how she saw us going with so much confidence and walk out with like none, so she pulled aside and she was like, listen, they can get like that like for television and whatever. And she's like, but I see something really special in you too. She's like, you guys really want to wrestle, like fight, and we're like yeah. She's like, well let me talk and yeah, you out. She's like, we can fight out to one of the developmental programs and give you an actual week long tryout. And so we went to mcdonne and Georgia, which is outside Atlanta, and we were there for a week and we it was called the Deep South, and it was so fun. We were watching everyone train. They were kind of training us. There was this guy who's like a big vampire and we're like, oh my gosh, you guys are gonna do a little indie show. Can we like under your cape and come out? And we just realized like we were having playtime. It was between the athletics and the character work. We're like, this is our.

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Speaker 4: Calling at the same time, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's you know, we saw from day one not only like the magic of pro wrestling, but also the athleticism and being athletes. Like we were like, this is all this is the spice girls in the soccer worlds collide like everything we ever wanted growing up as kids. We're like, it's here, and it's crazy. We've been hooked ever since, and it's so wild to me. When people aren't familiar with W to B and you know, wrestling storylines are talk to me about things and I'm like, no, it's the most magical place ever. There's nothing like it in the world. And even when I'm having my Caviare and Don Perry on at the Ritz, I'm like, you, guys, no pro wrestling is it, Like this is the greatest thing ever. And I just we we were hooked, like that was it.

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Speaker 4: And you still love it.

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Speaker 2: I still still love it. Last night watching a Madison Square Garden, which is like the most siconic place for restling. Yeah, and some of the segments I was watching, I was like laughing out loud and I'm just like, gosh, it's such a great business. And i just feel like when we're stage and seeing that, you know, especially when we have like very colorful characters and they're just walking around, I'm like, see, this is what I love. This is what I meant. It's a circus. I love it.

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Speaker 3: It's so what does this moment feel like that that it's coming to an end.

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Speaker 4: It's like a it's a big pivot, it's a big life change.

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Speaker 2: It is huge life tit or sweet. It's one of those. We knew we had one more run in us and we really wanted our kids to see us two. But you're not forty two.

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Speaker 1: It feels different and you're you know, getting in the ring with women in their twenties and their thirties and some of their forties as well. But you know, it just her and I are like wow, okay, like travel and you know, taking those bumps.

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Speaker 2: It definitely feels different.

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Speaker 1: But for her and I, we've always wanted to go for the tag titles because they weren't around when we were actually competing. They came after we retired. Yeah, and so that's always been on our bucket list. And the fact that we actually get to do it now it's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Well and it hits like for me, I was actually Italian breathe this where it hits me hard. Before we did our walkout last night, our you know powerwalk stret yestratt, I looked at her and I go, bree, we are only going to have so many more of these moments left. I go, is it not crazy how fast life has gone by? When I think of us starting twenty three, Like, it just seems like I never would have thought twenty years would have gone by this fast. Yeah, And I just it kind of hits me different to think that when this is done, it's not just because like, oh, it's just a career. I'm like, no, it's life, it's age, it's a new era. It's just that time.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting when I'm hearing you tell a story because I think a lot of women, like you know, age is a thing for a lot of women, especially when you're in a pivot. Yeah, it's gonna be scary, Like what do I do next? Am I gonna be okay? In this next phase? Are all the things I'm planning? Going to work out? What is the next phase of my life look like? Or just even struggling with getting you know, getting older right and not being twenty three anymore?

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Speaker 2: Like I try not to fall into certain insecurities, but when you're like wrestling half naked on TV, it's like you can't help it. And a birth child and actually birth the child. Yeah, it's like you know, well, it's.

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Speaker 1: Even like last night, I'm like, am I wrinkles showing? I'm like, do I am I dressed like a mom? Before we're like going out, We're like, no.

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Speaker 2: We look hot for forty two. You need to stop this. You can't tell you know. That's where age can be like a little difficult. But also what's great is what I've realized having you is we get to be so present, which is so important, especially for us women when we're hitting these different eras and it's about age. It's so important to stay like present because then we're gonna look at photos of us now in ten years.

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Speaker 4: And be like, I appreciate that more sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why didn't.

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Speaker 1: I look at so many photos from my twenties and I remember being in my twenties those photos, not happy with them.

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Speaker 4: Why do we do that?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, And I'm like mad at myself. I buy smaller in jeans. Who cares?

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Speaker 4: Everybody does that?

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Speaker 3: I think everyone does that, and then you see it later and you go, god.

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Speaker 2: I was I looked good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Pet was tight?

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Speaker 2: I miss I miss I like no circles under my ead Like wow, oh my god?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, does it feel like the end of an era for you guys like that, does I mean is there sadness in that too?

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Speaker 5: Is?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Bit sure? Because I mean the Bellet Twins raised us like that's we became them, which is crazy, but we grew up in this industry and when that door closes, it's that's going to be crazy because all the especially the past eight years, it's always been like when are you making the comeback? And what are the Beli Twins getting back in the ring? And when this door shuts, that will no longer be a question anymore. Right, It'll be behind you, It'll be behind us.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think too it just shows you, you know that life like we're just we're getting to that point of getting older, but in a different way, like where it's like you can really let go of something and be like Okay, onto the next chapter, and you start to realize your book is having a lot of chapters, be having happy hour talking about premenopause.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you retirees, I'm sure there's a lot still on your list of things to do.

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Speaker 2: That's the one thing with that. Our goal is at fifty to be retired from like social media world that is our goal. By then we want to be off everything and strictly be in our entrepreneur era where it doesn't matter about the face of it. We just feel like it's a great place to disconnect. But I mean the Nicky and Bree show, our podcasts, like we've been eight years.

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Speaker 4: Now, Wow has it been a year?

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Speaker 2: And it's like our bread and butter, and we love it and we love the people we get to have conversations with and all the things we get to learn and where we get to take it. We've been taking it to events that will continue on and that's become really our thing. And we're wine makers and we love wine making like we really really.

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Speaker 1: Do and love wine too, and oh yeah we It was funny because just being on the road, I was like, our wine brand's thriving and really busy right now. But yesterday I'm like in makeup and I'm like, oh gosh, my lawyers like can you sign this? We need this license for this state. And I just started to realize I'm like my emails like keeping up on everything.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, really, she probably apologized to me for the past year of all the times you gave me hardship on like, oh my gosh, you don't get back to this quick enough. You don't do this, so it's something you were gone like so no, no, no, it was not what we've been doing. You heard her?

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Speaker 4: Do you? Guys?

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Speaker 2: Really we're Lucy and Ethel do you?

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Speaker 4: But is there moments where we physically.

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Speaker 2: Thought when we were younger but then we stopped? Don't?

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Speaker 3: Well, not physically, but I mean like really, like is your banter like always light like that?

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Speaker 4: Like if she gets on your nerves, is it a light banter?

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Speaker 2: Or do you ever have I mean we've had a few homes which I feel like now it's like text exchange and then we we've become bigger.

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Speaker 3: People because I can't imagine you guys really like tying each other, like if you've got I don't know if there's ever a separation, if there's ever a distance in between you or do you not let that happen?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: We do, because I feel like sometimes I know we both need the break, but sometimes I can get overwhelmed really easy for break second day well I know, but still and like she can the chaos are going, going and going, and I'm like I need to go to my garden and I'm just like I need a time out.

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Speaker 3: You look like from each other or just from something going on, because I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like we're so busy all the time and you work together to yes, so I feel you need our space.

00:25:24
Speaker 2: How do we're good at that?

00:25:25
Speaker 4: Though?

00:25:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're laughing at me because I'm not because I'm single, only because I'm single.

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Speaker 4: How does that go? How's that going?

00:25:34
Speaker 2: Well? I mean not great? Well. The good thing is I love being single.

00:25:40
Speaker 4: I love like tell me why.

00:25:42
Speaker 2: I just love my space. I love how I do my routines. I love my aesthetic of my home now of just like it's me and my son. I just love all the things. And I couldn't imagine someone in that space now. And I love like the peacefulness of it dating just at times, you know, I think it's because I'm busy and my son's five, so I'm like in it as a mom. It just seems like it's so much like it's added to the list. It's like not a fun thing. It's just like this is like another thing. But it's also probably because I haven't met the person who's made me like want to make space for that. Yeah. That on the other hand. It just seems like it's slim pickens out there. If you want, like a man man.

00:26:28
Speaker 4: Like, are you trying to put any effort into it? Is it's not a priority for you. I guess that right now.

00:26:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't really put effort into it. I haven't, but I keep my eyes open. Last thing, will did you pick for her?

00:26:40
Speaker 4: Oh?

00:26:40
Speaker 2: I yeah, I want to. We're at the bar and I saw someone and is shoe into the restrooms so she can make like a walk back to like look at him, and she was, oh, yeah, he's I'm like right, So we made eye contact and then he came over and he starts talking and then the one of the first things he says, he's like, yeah, I moved from this place. There was all these divorces with their own baggage of kids or made it like kids. It's like with their kids, Like I'm going to take on that baggage. Yeah. I was like, I literally kicked her on the table. Yeah. We're like, I'm like, why would he say?

00:27:12
Speaker 1: What a weird thing to say? But I was like, thank you for that wasting our time?

00:27:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, like bye, And I loved it because as we were walking out his friend who was with him goes, oh my gosh, Beli twins.

00:27:23
Speaker 5: Hey.

00:27:23
Speaker 2: We're like hey, and I'm like, I can't wait for his friend to film in about the divorcee with I.

00:27:28
Speaker 1: Felt bad And I'm like, you're in here dissing divorces. You're talking about the miners. Like, I'm like, Nicole, no, oh, no, I knew, Yeah I.

00:27:37
Speaker 2: Wasn't you know what I mean?

00:27:38
Speaker 3: Do you get involved in each other's relationships.

00:27:44
Speaker 2: It's hard because she's my husband's trying to push me out more just so she could live through me. Yeah.

00:27:50
Speaker 1: I want to be your wing woman, of course. But my husband's really great with her, like she's our third Week's amazing. We're about to go where April eleven will be celebrating our well twelve years of marriage, which is awesome. Yeah, and so I've been really blessed.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's incredible. She's lucky. She's a man man, but he has empathy and he can be sensitive but not too sensitive. Well, sometimes you guys can be a little sensitive, but well they animals in the planet because you get so tough and then the poor guy can get super sensitive. But wow, but I always tell her, I go girl, you're so lucky because I'm seeing that's out there, which I know there's great men out there. I just don't think it's the right time for you. I just want a cow He doesn't have to look like a cowboy, but I need like a man, like a cowboy, you know what I mean.

00:28:41
Speaker 4: You're a wrestler, so you need a guy.

00:28:44
Speaker 2: Make me feel feminine. Yes, yeah, so you need to have rugged hands, not a better manicure than me. You need to just I.

00:28:52
Speaker 4: Don't know, you know, I know she knows everything.

00:28:56
Speaker 2: She knows everything.

00:28:57
Speaker 3: What is that like when she's going through a hard time or even through like divorce, watching your sister go through that, what is that like?

00:29:04
Speaker 2: Oh? That was that was very hard on me.

00:29:06
Speaker 1: And it's because I become the protector and I.

00:29:08
Speaker 4: Can be It's funny you say it was hard on me.

00:29:10
Speaker 2: Oh did I?

00:29:12
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:29:12
Speaker 2: Because yeah, because it was.

00:29:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure I.

00:29:15
Speaker 1: Felt like I could and that we go back to that twin thing where I felt like I could feel a lot of what she was going through, the anxieties, the sadness, all the stuff. So I felt like it lays on me as well because I can feel that, and then I can be like a huge bitch. So like then I become that protector bitch and then that takes a lot of energy to you know, have to fight all the fights.

00:29:37
Speaker 2: I know, she was like in hard like I like and her therapy because yeah, you know I did. I deled up on my.

00:29:45
Speaker 4: Well.

00:29:45
Speaker 1: And also we're in business together, so that it's like I wanted her to step away to concentrate on him.

00:29:50
Speaker 2: She let me disconnect from everything, just focus on my son and myself.

00:29:54
Speaker 1: Right, But you know then I took on a lot and I'm still you know, a mom and a wife and like so yeah, it was it was hard.

00:30:03
Speaker 2: It was a lot, but it was fine. You know, it's good. We both grew from it. We did, thank god.

00:30:11
Speaker 3: That's interesting that you probably both grow from what the other. Like every experience that you have, for you grow from.

00:30:21
Speaker 5: Right.

00:30:22
Speaker 1: For sure, yesterday's like you seem like the oldest, and I go, yeah, because I got so much wisdom from all her mistakes.

00:30:28
Speaker 2: Honestly, she's so lucky. I learned from all of them.

00:30:32
Speaker 3: Do you have a look at her marriage and and try to figure out what she's doing right or what she did right or maybe with the.

00:30:41
Speaker 2: Picked say if she picked right, I shouldn't have picked for passion and sexiness. I'm not saying that Brian's passion that was great. Meaning you guys connected off of museums and earthly things at first, Like you know what it was is we built a friendship first, Yes, and exactly good way to put it.

00:31:04
Speaker 4: That's a better way to put it.

00:31:06
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think two.

00:31:09
Speaker 1: I I mean, I'll say I went through a bad breakup before meeting him, and in that breakup, what I realized were all the things I didn't want in a man, and so I became super picky. And and I didn't apologize for being super picky. And I just I think, you know, having boundaries and sticking to what I knew.

00:31:28
Speaker 2: I also looked to.

00:31:29
Speaker 1: It was like when I was dating and getting serious, I was looking at men of like would they be a good father too? Like it was more than just like, oh, this fun dating thing. I was looking beyond it all. And so but I do I feel like you need to have a friendship and really get deep with someone before you take it to the next level.

00:31:46
Speaker 2: Well, I thought I had that.

00:31:50
Speaker 4: What have you learned about yourself? Well, like if you were to do it again, what would you.

00:31:54
Speaker 2: I The one thing I've learned is I think your time slow down, yeah, and just really dissect the red flag, like when if you trust your gut. I think I've learned that more than anything, Like your instinct is always right. You can't fix anyone. I think we go into things and right and we just want to fix them and we hear him or hear or him or hurt whatever it is, but like we want to fix them, and it's like we can't fix them. They have to want to fix themselves. And if you already like that from the beginning, it's just not going to work. And those are the things I think I've learned the most. Took me a few times, but now I've realized, like, whatever it is in the beginning, that is what it is, and that's what it's going to be. And so if you like it, go with it, but don't.

00:32:44
Speaker 1: Not everyone's perfect in relationship, Like there's no perfect relationship. So I think too looking at people's weaknesses in a relationship and being able to be like can I marry that, like right, because it's not like it ever fully goes away.

00:32:56
Speaker 2: Right, And having no expectations expectations I mean, that's just setting yourself up for failure. And that's whether like it's in your dreams and goals or in a relationship. But I just feel expectations really set yourself up for failure.

00:33:10
Speaker 3: But we should have some expectations, right, we should expect what we need.

00:33:15
Speaker 4: And I don't know.

00:33:17
Speaker 2: I agree, right, Like, I feel like you have to see that in the beginning idea, you.

00:33:23
Speaker 4: Can't with the potential and that what it is.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: I'd always fall in love with the potential, and I mean one was one of my loves was just like timing in life wasn't right the other ones. Yeah, the potential wasn't just wasn't happened.

00:33:43
Speaker 4: But you seem okay, so good.

00:33:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've learned so much in life, and I think I've just accepted that. You know, this is just me. I've been on this roller coaster for so long. But you bounce well, be I bounce back well. And I have to give my sister so much credit that her letting me disconnect for three months and me just taking it straight on mentally and physically, and like when I went through it mentally and I had a great team behind me too. That was really protecting me too and with me every day, talking to me. My life coach scepted in even more so. It's like your support group is so important. But I took sugar and alcohol out of my diet anything that changes the mood. I wanted to feel everything for three months and just heal it and go through it. What do you mean, like like after when my divorce was going on, I just wanted to take it all.

00:34:36
Speaker 4: You cut out sugar, cut out.

00:34:38
Speaker 2: Sugar, alcohol. I was mainly drinking bone broth. I have the nutrients in my body so high.

00:34:44
Speaker 3: Wow.

00:34:44
Speaker 2: Because even like she was picking about the music she was listening.

00:34:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you were in like self care mode.

00:34:50
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it would be like full gospel. Like if I wasn't hearing the word of God, I don't want to hear anything.

00:34:56
Speaker 5: Wow.

00:34:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. I went deep and honestly I had hard, hard nights and just like this is my life. I mean I left all the way, had I loss. It looked really good. Never we'll get back there ever again. And I'm like, how does that happen?

00:35:10
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:35:10
Speaker 2: But but you didn't sit in that.

00:35:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, You're not somebody that sits in it. And no, like just even from what you're telling me. I could hear that you like, did you were working through it?

00:35:22
Speaker 2: Working through it?

00:35:23
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:35:24
Speaker 2: Well, it's you know, life is a constant work. And I've been working on myself very strong for what the past I want to say, maybe eight years where really and I realized that this is why we always have to do the work on ourselves, because we get into moments like this and we know how to handle them. Doesn't mean they're not going to be hard, but we're going to know how to get through them. We're not going to be victims. We're going to get there and we're going to cleanse this pain out of us. We're going to get through it, and we're going to grow stronger and survive.

00:35:51
Speaker 3: That's interesting though, because I've never really heard somebody talk about getting through whether it's divorced or loss or any type of grief period in their life by actually like detoxy.

00:36:02
Speaker 2: Yeah right, they got to detox.

00:36:04
Speaker 4: It and and it does what to you what is you're just you.

00:36:07
Speaker 2: Know, our soul holds on to things right, and you're just so clean and pure and you're just taking it in so purely. Well, I think it helps with the energy too, and the energy and you know, you sit, you sit there and you you process things. Different things become so clear and feeling, just like.

00:36:27
Speaker 4: Giving up sugar.

00:36:27
Speaker 1: And we'll just think too, if you consume too much sugar, too much alcohol, how you feel. And then if you're going through a hard moment in your life, it's just the downward spiral. And I think that's how people hit rock bottom. It's like there, it's you know, it's too many bad things going on physically mentally, and I think, you know, and I think the way Nikki handled the situation and did it it was it was actually really inspiring to watch and I was like wow, to think, like, oh, cleansing your body physically mentally, it's going to what's help you heal faster. And also her clarity on just the whole situation, and I think that's, you know, sometimes we don't see the real clarity, like you know, she's like, this happened for a reason and let's get to the bottom of it.

00:37:12
Speaker 2: And taking my own accountability too. It's better to be in high frequency. When you go the other path, people just get in a darker place. I wasn't gonna let myself get in a dark hole.

00:37:22
Speaker 4: Wow.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: And I'm a mom, and my son he was first. And because how I was raised and the things I saw, I was like, my son could see what he saw that one day, but never again will he ever see anything like that. And I will never let him even be in a situation like that. Yeah and so, and I didn't want that these the moments of divorce to affect the rest of his life. And we co parent beautifully and I get so many compliments on how happy and loving my son is. You would never think he came from a divorce family at all. And I have to say I was so happy, and it was these are the things that I saw, Like there was this moment where I had my hardest night ever, because you know, divorce, you haven't to do a public hard like the people just write headlines and there's no fact checking, so it's you know, you can't like fall into that stuff. But it was like probably like the heaviest time through it all, and I just remember like falling to my knees and just like praying so hard, like God, I just need to know that You're here with me, that no matter what happens, I'll be okay. And the next morning I woke up. I do the same routine, open up the same drapes every day, make my coffee. The brightest double rainbow just facing my home, no rain, no nothing, And it was the most breath taking double rainbow I've ever seen in my life. And even the sunrise was the brightest we've ever had in Napa Valley. Like you have to see the video of it. It's incredible. When I googled it, like the meaning double rainbow is always like a sign from God, and it was just crazy. That was literally that next early morning.

00:39:01
Speaker 4: You asked for it, Pray for that.

00:39:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you do think about nature, they tell us like when there's a storm, a rainbow comes, like just you gotta push through.

00:39:08
Speaker 4: It's so true, you know, you push through everything.

00:39:11
Speaker 3: Even even hearing that because I had I had a backcar accident maybe like six years ago, and it took me so long just to drive again.

00:39:20
Speaker 4: To think that you broke your neck, I know, and got back in the ring after.

00:39:28
Speaker 2: That seven months later. I think it is that I set a record like crazy.

00:39:33
Speaker 4: Does that And it probably changed both of you that moment. Does you do not have like.

00:39:36
Speaker 2: This on a solo run? She was like, it's my time, I'm.

00:39:41
Speaker 3: No, I mean no, but does it change how you look at like the potential for injury or danger or you know, PTSD any of that.

00:39:49
Speaker 1: What I then saw her taking this double T move from Naya Jacks and lash legend. I was like, like, looking, I was freaking out because I was like when I saw it done, and all I could think about is her neck and I was like, oh no, like heard again, So yeah, definitely you do. I feel like you're more cautious when you're going through the injuries.

00:40:12
Speaker 2: But we're also built different, like her and I. I don't know, very fearless, very always have been.

00:40:18
Speaker 4: You just get back on the horse.

00:40:19
Speaker 2: Just get back on the horse.

00:40:20
Speaker 1: We know what you know what it is, we know what recovery is like, so we're like, okay, like you get like you'll recover, but.

00:40:26
Speaker 2: It's also weird your body, like you're intuition tells you. Like when I broke my neck and they were trying to tell me my career was sent. Nothing in me felt like my career was sent. So I was like, no, it's not, and they're like, no, yeah, you're never wrestling again. I was like, no, yes, I will it. Just nothing in my mind told me like no, everything was telling me like no, we're going like this is yes. So I pushed through and then I have this run up doing like the craziest things, and then I did get reinjured, which wasn't great, and I had to step back and then step back for quite you know, a few years. But then I got pregnant, and now I mean, I'll think of things, but I feel like that's momo that kicks in. I start to think about my son. But other than that, I listened to my intuitions so much, so I know moments like if it's the only no at me, I'm not going to do it. But but no fear, no fear, no fear, no fear. I mean when I jumped off Fascina a few weeks ago to do a crossbody off the top of the turnbuckle and they're like, girls are like I don't know, and I'm like, no, I'm fine, I'm good, I'll be fine.

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00:42:31
Speaker 2: Love it.

00:42:31
Speaker 4: So let's see what we got.

00:42:33
Speaker 5: Hi, this is Julie, and this is a question for the both of you. I've been dating someone for two years and I always feel like I'm competing with his brother. They're not twins, but they're incredibly close. And I always feel like number two, how do you love someone fully when they already have a person who knows them better than you ever.

00:42:50
Speaker 2: Could Ooh that give me goosebumps. Yeah that, because this is so what we deal with, and this Brian would be granted. Yes, yeah, my husband said. What he realized is that he'll always make a joke saying if he and my sister were drowning, I'd go save my sister first, which I'm like, no, I wouldn't. I just probably let us all drown. But I feel I know, yeah, so we are well find away for all of you. Yeah, like come on, no, Brian.

00:43:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what my husband said is great, and how he looks at it is one. We become a family, and it's so nice to have your tribe. And also he's like the things that Nicole gives you. My husband doesn't drink, so he's like, I see how much you love to go wine tasting or go get a fun lunch with an apparol sprits, and he's like, those aren't fun to me. He's like, but you get to enjoy that with your sister, and it's in good company and it's with family. So he's really looked at a relationship and actually has seen that my sister is such a positive because he doesn't have to force himself to go do these things. It's like, you go, you go do that with Nicole, and he knows how much I love it. I'm gonna have fun, and I don't know, maybe that's what's made her marriage.

00:44:06
Speaker 2: So yeah, And I know where I need to have boundaries too, and I respect that. I know when they say they're gonna get tacos, I know it consists of a lot of other things to make sure not to go over. Yeah, I go, we're gonna get tacos today for lunch. And again me, I'm like, all right, see y'all tomorrow. She'll just drop by. Yeah.

00:44:26
Speaker 1: But I do think it's important too to have the conversation, Like I've definitely had a conversation with my husband, like does it bother you how close Nicole and I are or like that sometimes she just stops by or and so I do think it's important to of course, I have to respect him so for you know, the listener who called in I would say, like you you should talk to them, yeah, and just say listen, like I would like our time here, and I respect your time there. But it's important to have boundaries and just to have an open conversation about it.

00:44:59
Speaker 2: And I rarely do it when Brian's there on drop him. He doesn't care though, unless it Yeah, but I respect it.

00:45:06
Speaker 4: It's that your cold taco night walking.

00:45:10
Speaker 2: We love these tacos, but I know when they want to walk and go get tacos. I know what they're doing before that was sex and tacos. Yeah, getting sex and getting tacos. It's like, you guys are so weird. But I guess you have two kids. I just walk in your room.

00:45:23
Speaker 1: Well we've had to and I finally were like, because the kids are both in school, we're like day sex and it's actually the best, and so because we're always so tired at night, and sometimes felt like we were forcing it.

00:45:34
Speaker 2: So now it's you figured it out and talk about and I don't complain, and I know Talco tuesdays and I don't come over.

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00:46:20
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00:46:23
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00:46:29
Speaker 4: Of your career, especially as you gear up.

00:46:31
Speaker 3: For this new year, what are you guys most proud of?

00:46:37
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really proud that I'm and I hate saying my age, but I'm going to say that I've challenged myself to kind of go back into.

00:46:47
Speaker 2: A career that I did, you.

00:46:49
Speaker 1: Know, when I was in my twenties, really throughout my twenties and early thirties, and I've challenged myself to get back into the shape to get back there mentally and to go prove myself I can do this, Like age doesn't matter, Like as long as you put in the work, you can do it. I'm proud of myself because I really did challenge myself, like get to that top turn book, Well, do your missile drop kick, but do it crisp and trying new moves. Yeah, and so it's been like really fun to challenge myself and actually do it.

00:47:16
Speaker 2: And so I'm proud of myself.

00:47:18
Speaker 1: I challenge myself and I've been I was in the gardens for the last couple of years where I didn't feel the butterflies. I wasn't nervous, but every time you step behind that curtain before you walk out, I'm like I want to vomit. Yeah, it's good to have that feeling, you know. I'm like, okay, like we're a lie.

00:47:34
Speaker 2: Yeah. For me, I'm proud of my achievements, but most of all, I'm so proud of the life that I've made and all the things I've overcome. I look at my home and I look at my son, and I get it to see the things I get to do for my son, which I'm like Hey, this isn't normal for a kid. You get like you never wait line, like you need to know that times are gonna have to wait in line. But I look at my life and I'm just like, wow, I did that, and I've overcome so much, and I just I think that's why I'm in such a great place and I'm just so happy. Like my son was just with me here for the past few days, and even getting like a VIP tour the Statue of Liberty. I was like, whoa, it's because your mom. Hey, she took some moms for twenty years. I'm looking at like the VIP treatment we're getting. I just those are the moments where I'm like most proud of.

00:48:21
Speaker 4: Well, you guys should be proun o.

00:48:23
Speaker 3: Thank you, congratulations, Thanks Yeah twins in real life?

00:48:27
Speaker 2: Yeah baby, Hey everyone, I'm free, I'm Nikki, I'm We're of Bellatwins right in real life.

00:48:33
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, thanks for watching.

00:48:34
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