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NFL Pro Bowler/MLB All-Star Bo Jackson stresses the importance of getting on top of your health. ESPN CFB Analyst Kirk Herbstreit (joined by his dog Peter) gives his case for Nick Saban as CFB Commissioner. Stanford University GM Andrew Luck shares what it has been like moving from Pro Bowl QB to CFB GM.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hour two.

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Speaker 3: On this Thursday, Dan and the Dan That's Dan Patrick Show will be a busy hour. Kirk kurb Street stops by. Bo Jackson will join us momentarily. Andrew Luck he is driving from Stanford. He'll join us top of next hour, and the sideline reporters for Super Bowl sixty, Melissa Start Kaylee Hartong will join us as well. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. And we'll get to phone calls coming up eight seven to seven to three. DP Show email address VP at Danpatrick dot com, Twitter handle the DP Show. It's a meet Thursday every day. This week Heartland Steak Company sent us some treats.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: We have pulled port smoked sausages, mac and cheese, brisket, baked beans, and coleslaw. Who has it better than we do?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Okay, pull question here. Then we'll bring in Bo Jackson.

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Speaker 5: Arguably one of the craziest poll questions we've ever had. But who should Tom Brady be rooting for in the Super Bowl? New England, Seattle or Neither?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 5: Right now, fifty two percent of the audience say New England, forty percent say neither.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's he's going to be rooting for the Patriots. I would hope, but I don't know like he put himself in this position that he didn't need to put himself in you could. No one's gonna care if he said, you know, my heart's always with New England. Great memories, and mister Crafts is a Hall of Fame owner. Belichick's gone, So why wouldn't you root for a former teammate Mike Vrabel And you can root for Seattle because you're hiring their offensive coordinators your next head coach.

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Speaker 4: Not a big deal.

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Speaker 3: But a Sante Samuel is not pleased as he's put Tom Brady on the clock.

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Speaker 4: Is that right, Seaton?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, according to a Santa Samuel, tom Brady, you have twenty three hours to respond to or it's up.

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Speaker 4: I'm going eight bleep about who you are.

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Speaker 5: He is not happy about tom Brady's comments.

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Speaker 3: We're going pat We'll keep an eye on that story here. Sante Samuel is going to reveal who Tom Brady really is.

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Speaker 5: Apparently he's about to go eight leap in about twelve hours.

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Speaker 3: What if Tom says, Hey, Asante, if you would made that interception on Eli Manning, I'd have another super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Fair point d.

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Speaker 3: Bo Jackson the nineteen eighty five Heisman Trophy winner, and he has a weekly podcast dedicated to men's health, It's bow Nos Health. We'll talk about that as we make way for Bo Jackson on the program.

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Speaker 2: How good, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't how you doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You want to bring that microphone a little bit closer to you. There you go.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy you are okay, very happy, although when we played golf you weren't happy that day.

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Speaker 6: I'm well, I'm not gonna curse, but I'm gonna cracky golf. I know my weaknesses, yeah, and I know my strengths.

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Speaker 4: Golf isn't one of them, but you still play it.

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Speaker 2: I love the.

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Speaker 6: Sport for this simple reason. Everything else I do I conquer, Golf kicks my ass.

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Speaker 4: And we played with Jim McMahon that day.

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Speaker 2: Yep, barefoot Jim.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, had all of his beers. I felt bad for his caddy because he's carry around a twelve pack.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's carrying a twelve with eyes, his golf bagh, his shoes because he take he takes his shoes off.

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Speaker 2: No strange, it's it's but hey, golf does that to people.

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Speaker 3: Well okay, you say you conquer everything. What is it about golf though that frustrates? I mean it's a mental.

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Speaker 6: I would rather have that ball coming at me ninety five miles an hour then have it sitting on that tee because it's intimidating his health period.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And and athletes talk about that that you want you want movement, and you're not allowed to talk when people are ready to swing. You know, if you're playing football or baseball, people are yelling in.

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Speaker 6: Strang yeah, talk, cuss me out, do whatever. But when you're on the tee with people watching you, your sphincter is.

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Speaker 4: Okay, bos sphincter.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I still have.

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Speaker 2: This oh wow, yes, white, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Nike sent this to me. The boos just do it all and I kept it.

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Speaker 2: Listen, do you want to sell.

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Speaker 4: It to who me? I'll give it to you.

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Speaker 2: Do you put it in my grandkids?

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Speaker 6: I have two grandsons, two and four, and know they will not play football, really baseball.

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Speaker 4: What was your best sport?

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Speaker 2: My best sport?

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Speaker 6: My best sport was on the first in fifteen picking up my pitcheck.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very good, very good.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but be honest, which one were you better at?

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Speaker 2: It's I I can't say.

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Speaker 6: And I'm being totally honest with you because because both of them, because both sports, they are so different in the way you approach football, you're tight, intense twenty four to seven. Baseball you got one hundred and sixty two games. So you can't be that way for one hundred and six two games. You lose your mind. Baseball is relaxed to where we have to have fun while we're working, crack jokes, makes fun of somebody in the stands, do whatever we can to keep ourselves loose, because that's how we play baseball.

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Speaker 4: Growing up.

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Speaker 3: What was your first sport that you played, Oh, track and Fiel. Did you race against Herschel?

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Speaker 2: I think we raced against Herschel.

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Speaker 6: I think I raced against Herschel once in the pen relays in the sixties.

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Speaker 4: And how'd you do.

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Speaker 6: I think I came in second or third because what somebody jumped the gun the first time and it was and I was nervous I was going to jump the gun, and I was probably the next to the last person to get out of the Blox and I think I still came in third.

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Speaker 4: Did you race Dion?

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Speaker 6: No, Dion and I have never raised I just heard the thing about him and his freshman.

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Speaker 2: What did you what did you did you?

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Speaker 4: Did you know that story with Dion Tels?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, visual but.

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Speaker 3: You remember putting your hand on his helmet, almost as if to bless him.

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Speaker 6: And then but as Deontay, I put my hand on and I prayed for him and went to the end and just went on about my business. But yes, I remember that. I remember Diane was seventeen years old. He weighed about a buck twenty with all his paths on, but he could fly.

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Speaker 4: Was he faster than you?

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Speaker 6: And he came across. He was quicker than me from point A to point B.

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Speaker 2: But I straight straight up speed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever meet talk to Brian Bosworth about that goal line?

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Speaker 6: I see Bosworth all the time and we talk about everything, but that not saying that in a disrespectful way, but people talk about it when we're there, And.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you went right into his chest that on the goal line, right.

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Speaker 6: As I say, with no disrespect to Brian, because Brian is a good guy. At that point in time, Bosworth was probably the smartest athlete playing professional sports because the way he marketed himself and his Bosworth image.

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Speaker 2: Nobody else did that but him.

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Speaker 6: So he started that the bad guy image to where he would follow Dan Marino out of bounds and push him over the water cooler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, push him over Tate.

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Speaker 6: But that was his bad boy image which made him a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: What was the you're welcome to the NFL moment?

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Speaker 2: My welcome to the NFL moment was.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it was my freshman year or my I don't know if it was my first year or second year, but I got hit from behind, got hit right here in the short circuit it everything. The ball came loose. I fell on the ball, and I can't remember who we were playing. I don't know if it was Cincinnati or somebody, but the ball came loose, and I'm like, get on the ball, don't let the ball go. I fell on the ball, which made me cradle the ball. Don't let him get the ball. So I had to tell myself, get up, get to the sideline and clear your head. Get up. So I got up. I'm fascion your chin strap, get to the sideline, just sit down. I make my way through the crowd, and as I sat on the bench, as soon as my butt touches the bench, somebody grabs my arm and say you on the other side email and push sneak out on the field.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so you went to the wrong sideline.

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Speaker 6: I went to the wrong sideline, and I got to the sideline and they got Steve Berline, Steve Smith, who God rest his soul because he's no longer with this see my block and fullback from Penn State. It was their job to ask me questions because we didn't have this concussion protocol back then. The concussion protocol back then was if you could tell us what you do on this play, then you're good. And I didn't know that. And this happened the end of the first quarter. I didn't play the whole second quarter because they were asking me questions. I didn't know that I was married. I didn't know that I had three kids. I didn't know what day it was, and Steve Berline asked me. This is what got me back on track. He said, when's pay day? I said Monday, And so that brought me back. And I'm watching the police this in Raider stadium, and this is in the coliseues. So I'm watching these police officers and they're all running.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where hell as all these cops going? Raiders stadium?

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Speaker 6: If you come there as as a visitor for the other team and if you say something.

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Speaker 2: That you know what happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So the cops are running trying to break up fights, and all of a sudden, I hear a gunshot bow and everybody duck, and I see my teammates running, and Steve Smith gets up and I'm like, Smitty, where is everybody going?

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Speaker 2: He said, it's halftime food. Follow me.

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Speaker 6: So I grabbed the back of his jersey and he took me to the locker room.

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Speaker 4: Wow, what was your welcome to Major League Baseball moment?

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Speaker 6: Welcome to major league baseball moment? I don't think I have. I don't think I had one. My welcome to the Major League baseball moment was the first batter I face was Hall of Famous Steve Calton.

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Speaker 2: He was playing for the White Sox.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so tail end of his career.

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Speaker 6: Tail end of his career, and he hung me a slider and I put it almost on the concourse in that field. But they said it was foul, but the left fielder said that ball was fair. So I end up hitting a two hot second base and beating it out for my first hit.

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Speaker 3: Well that and people made a big deal of that, of your speed with a routine grounder, And it was one of those like you were not taking it for granted that I'm gonna, you know, ground out second base. No, you didn't stop running.

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Speaker 6: But I tell all the kids because I because I'm an ambassador for the white sock and the role. So I go to spring training and I tell all the young kids. I go and speak to the young kids in the minor leagues. I said, you have one goal, and that's to get out of here and make it to the big leagues. And I say, your only goal when you make it to the big leagues is to take somebody's job. I said, That's how I went at it. That's how you should look at it. You're there to take somebody's job, because if you can't, you're gonna get sit right back down and you're gonna be on the bus.

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Speaker 4: BO knows mental health. How this come about?

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Speaker 2: BO knows men's health. Oh, men's both knows.

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Speaker 6: Men's And the way that comes up. I will ask you this question. This for all the men on the stage, how often do you sit up with your buddies or anybody and talk about you went and got your prostate checked or went to get a colonoscopy or p say, we don't talk about that as men as men for this reason, we think that it makes us less of a man.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 6: The only time we talk about that is when we're behind closed doors with our doctors.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 6: We don't talk about that. I noown to her for the first time. I'm a cancer survivor. I have my pro state taken out. And this is coming from somebody that a lot of men from around the country look up to them. And if I can talk about it, we should talk about it as men. Because if you watch women on National TV, on any TV show.

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Speaker 4: They talk about everything everything.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we keep all this balled up inside of us, which messages with us from a mental standpoint, keeps us cranky, and so forth and so on. If you mentioned your prostate first, thing a God's gonna talk about because this is how we think it's guys, all my sex life is growing.

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Speaker 2: That's not true. That's not true.

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Speaker 6: And I say this to all of the men in your lists, listen and audience, don't be afraid to go see your doctor, prostate, get your PSA.

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Speaker 2: Check, colonoscopy.

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Speaker 6: And I would say this when I was a sophomore at Auburn. Woke up one morning, go used to bathroom to get ready for class, A used bathroom, Get a plushure toilet.

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Speaker 2: That's blood in my stool, Go see my trainer.

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Speaker 6: If I had to ignore it that like young people do, I know, I wouldn't be here right now because colon because colon cancer runs in my family, proste cancer runs in my family, and.

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Speaker 2: So forth and so on.

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Speaker 6: So most guys, even though when we're out here we're big and tough, manly and everything, but you know something, you're scared shitless to go talk to your doctor because you're afraid of what he's gonna tell you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I tell people, don't wait till your fifty to have your first colon on skip here. Absolutely, you should do it when you're thirty, Like there's no just because they say, oh, when you get to be fifty, And I say, don't wait.

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Speaker 4: Prostate.

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Speaker 3: I had my blood taken earlier this week testing for that because I had I had levels that were a little higher, and they were nervous, and I had my blood taken on Monday.

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Speaker 4: Here in San Francisco.

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Speaker 6: You get your blood tests done and then they combine it with your GLEA some score, and if that comes out in the high sixties, sevens or above, you need to get something done. And I can't tell you what to do, sorts men out here in the country. But the reason, the reason I have my prostate removed three months ago and I'm doing fine, I'm doing great. The reason I have my prostate you now, is because I get emotional when I say this.

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Speaker 2: I have two grandsons who.

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Speaker 6: I have more fun with them two than any football game, baseball game I've ever played. And my job as a papa is a spoil like shit period period. He has so many battery powered vehicles that I have to park my truck outside and keep all his vehicles in the space.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's, that's it.

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Speaker 6: I want to be around to help raise my grandkids, not only that, to be here for my family.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: I'm not seeing a lot on this scene sports world because it was my job. Not saying that I don't like or love what I used to do, but I found something better. I think the best gift God can give us as grandkids.

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Speaker 2: And I love that. So I want to be around to help raise them.

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Speaker 4: You know, I got to.

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Speaker 6: See them grow. They are the best, aren't they. But you can bring them over to your house, spoil the crap out of them, jack jack them up on as they said, skittles, skittles and and.

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Speaker 2: And send them home at the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: It's Bo Knows Health, a weekly podcast dedicated to men's health. And uh, thank you for sharing. Thank you Dan, and you know that the message is a powerful one. We did a p s A fort cancer yesterday. All of my guys yes, and sending the message out, so the week to get.

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Speaker 6: The message out. But the thing that I want to do is is yes, I'm Bo Jackson. I did this, I did that. But I'm vulnerable just like you. I want guys to start talking about this. I'm even thinking about taking this on the road to cities because I want to help raise funds to help guys who don't have the proper funds to go get a PSA test, to get a colonoscopy, because it's needed.

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Speaker 2: We don't talk about it.

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Speaker 6: And I'm starting my podcast just so I can peel the layers off of that onion so we can.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Bow Knows Health, Men's Health, Bo Knows Men's Health.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Dan, great to see it again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you and God blessed. Thank you all.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a break Perk Curbin Street. We'll join us next Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: God Bless Football.

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Speaker 3: The stage is set for Super Bowl sixty and you can watch it all unfold Sunday. It'll least Seattle and New England and it'll be on NBC in Peacock. I've known Beau a long time. I interviewed him in nineteen eighty five after he won the Heisman Trophy. I was working as a reporter at CNN in New York, and you know, he said, you know, when you're from fifteen to thirty, those are fifteen of the dumbest years.

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Speaker 4: You say stupid things. And so he just talked about his maturity. But I appreciated him sharing.

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Speaker 3: That's the important part because with bo Jackson, you think, you know, that's a living legend, and here he is saying ed prostate cancer and willing to share that with his podcast. All righty, by the way, we'll talk to Melissa Stark and Kaylee Harttung. They're the Sideline reporters. They'll join us in an hour from now. Andrew luck is going to join us. At the top of the out I got Kirk curb Street and his dog.

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Speaker 2: Herbie.

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Speaker 3: Wants you to come on out since your dog is kind of taken over. Kirk curb Street and his dog Pety, My buddy.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, how are you?

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Speaker 7: He just kind of walk around. Yeah, hey Peter, Hey buddy, he'll probably sit over here.

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Speaker 4: Does he want the chair?

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Speaker 7: Came here, Ben, he's checking for these other dogs right now. Hey, come here?

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Speaker 4: Is he getting jaded because he's a celebrity.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know what he's handling. He's handled it pretty well. He's handled pretty well. He's uh, he's had a long year of travel and he's a character. Two years old Golden retriever.

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Speaker 3: And how does your wife feel that she's got competition for you?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Why four goldens? So yeah, yeah, I have an eight year old Pete. Come here, buddy, gim come up here.

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Speaker 4: All right, Pete.

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Speaker 3: You can bring the microphone if he wants to talk. Oh is he going to get in your lap?

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Speaker 7: Oh? No, he'll just kind of hang but Uh. Yeah, we've got a uh four of them and my wife you know, she loves them, so it makes it. They're just like family for us. Four sons and four male dogs.

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Speaker 4: So you're joining us on behalf of spruce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So uh that's what he's got here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, got his little locked deeper chip. Yeah, he is locked in.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you've been doing you having a good week?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been fun.

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Speaker 3: Good Like when you get to talk to Bo Jackson and he relates to everybody by talking about prostate cancer that he just over came. And you know, we did a p s A yesterday to have awareness to that getting tested and colon. You know, guys don't want to talk about that stuff. No you no, no, wait, which one is the the finger test and well that's prostrate yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but important stuff and getting pulled bows. You know, great that he's healthy and feeling good, but great that he can shed some light on it with his own experience.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of those guys like the greatest athlete who was never a Hall of Famer, right, Like he didn't play long enough.

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Speaker 7: In either, but I think it was the Cincinnati game right then he.

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Speaker 4: Got hit where he got the hip. Oh that was in Oakland, when.

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Speaker 7: He got to Oakland.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, and then that was it.

00:22:20
Speaker 7: Yeah, never never the same.

00:22:22
Speaker 4: He was done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:22:23
Speaker 7: People our generation appreciates him, but I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Ye know.

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Speaker 7: I try to tell my kids about him. My son ties here right now. He's not in his head like I know all about it. I brainwashed him properly, but I uh man, remember when he climbed that wall, just had full speed, just ran up along the wall.

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Speaker 4: It was all star game.

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Speaker 7: I was Star game and hit when the center field hit a bomb.

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Speaker 2: He was just he was one on one.

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Speaker 4: And then when he had that I think ninety three yard run where he ran through the tunnel.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, remember that showdown with him and Boz at the goal line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it didn't go well.

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Speaker 2: It did not go well.

00:22:59
Speaker 7: But that was a great era.

00:23:01
Speaker 4: You want to talk super Bowl, if you want to talk college football, talk.

00:23:05
Speaker 7: Anything you want to talk about trying to.

00:23:08
Speaker 3: Figure out where we're headed in five years with college football because it feels like it is fluid.

00:23:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now college football.

00:23:17
Speaker 3: Was kind of saying hey to Congress, hey can you help us clean up our sport? Which is never a good thing, No, but it feels like that's their cop out that we can't handle this. Can you get a commissioner for college football?

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Speaker 7: I love the idea because I think right now we're still legislating the sport as if it were the nineteen eighties, where it's a regional sport. You know where we grow up. If Whatdy Hayes or Earl Bruce was a coach at Ohio State, the only thing that mattered was the Rose Bull and if you were down where Bear Bryant was, it was all about getting to the Sugar Bowl. And that's now. Unfortunately, that's now in the past for college football. Now it's all about the CFP. And yet we're we're governing this sport with conference commissioners that are worried about their constituents and their region. No one's looking at the entire country what's best, and here's what we're going to do. I'm the bizarre and I'm taking in all this information.

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Speaker 2: This is what we need to do.

00:24:16
Speaker 7: Nobody's doing that right now. My only hope is Nick Saban truly, and people can say, well, he's got an Alabama twist. If you really know Nick Saban, he's got a college football twist. He cares about the players, he cares about the sport, and I think him being involved with Congress him and being involved with the President, He's got a lot of people's ears and I really think he has good intentions. So I'm hopeful that he'll be able to help out. But right now, it's just so impossible to predict where we'll be with this sport. Yet, popularity has never been bigger. You know, people still go to these games, people still tune in. I mean, what a thirty I think for the national title? People love it. It's just it's frustrating to see what's going on on the off the field.

00:24:57
Speaker 3: I'm talking to Kirk kurb Street and his dog. We're not talking to Peter. He's not paying attention here. Does he get along with his brothers and sis?

00:25:06
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah? But the other ones are they jealous that he's When.

00:25:11
Speaker 7: The bags start to get zipped and packed up, oh they know, he totally knows that he's going. And the other three just shame me. They're just like, I can't believe. I can't believe you're doing it again.

00:25:24
Speaker 4: So tell me what you're doing with Spruce.

00:25:26
Speaker 7: Well, I lost Ben, my other dog last year. And I've lost a lot of dogs at young ages. I've always been concerned and wondered why that might be. And so I'm very careful with what I have my dogs around, what I feed them, what's going on in the yard. And for me, Spruce is a very young company. They're actually just in their second year, only ten ingredients in their product, and it's pet friendly, and so that was something that was important to me to if I'm going to use something on my property, I want to try to make sure i'm giving these guys.

00:26:00
Speaker 4: So this is weed control.

00:26:02
Speaker 7: Weed control. Yeah, yeah, it's not for the lawn. It's something you would use in a in a bed or on a sidewalk. But the fact that it's pet friendly and weed deadly is something that.

00:26:12
Speaker 2: I was excited about.

00:26:13
Speaker 4: Good good, Yeah, I want this guy to.

00:26:17
Speaker 7: Stay around as long as as long as possible.

00:26:20
Speaker 3: I've talked about Fernando Mendoza that, okay, he's the best quarterback this year, and I know it sounds like a slight I don't know how good he is to go into the NFL, because you know, there there's only a couple can't miss guys that have come out of college.

00:26:37
Speaker 4: You know, Andrew luck is going to join us. He was a can't miss lay, can't miss.

00:26:42
Speaker 3: How many guys would you say you can recall can't miss going into the NFL?

00:26:48
Speaker 7: Oh Man, I, I mean you've named You've named a few over the last ten years. They're always it's always debatable, right.

00:26:54
Speaker 4: But it's not like it was.

00:26:56
Speaker 3: Marino wasn't a can't miss because you know there were whispers at the draft right and fell in the draft.

00:27:04
Speaker 4: Peyton was I think the Florida thing. He couldn't win.

00:27:08
Speaker 7: The felt like I still felt like he was a can't miss Luck for sure.

00:27:12
Speaker 4: But Steve Young wasn't, Montana wasn't.

00:27:15
Speaker 2: Brady was obviously no.

00:27:17
Speaker 4: Even Mahomes no, no, I Mahomes was not at all.

00:27:21
Speaker 2: I think the Marlert.

00:27:23
Speaker 4: Lawrence has been labeled that he was. And now maybe we're starting to start just.

00:27:28
Speaker 7: Kind of see that. I'm you know, nobody's figured out high school to college who's going to be that five star that hits. There are a lot of them that don't. Nobody's figured out who's going to be the first pick, and at this position into the draft, who's going to hit one thing? I think I'm starting to take more and more into consideration is just how many reps these guys get in college, because I think it's not about how big he is, how strong his arm is. To me, it's about it's about the ability to process, and it's they're fewer and fewer that have the ability that guys in the nineties early two thousands when they put the offense on their back and they said, hey, you see the safeties, you understand the why. And I think because of that, offensive coordinators in the NFL have had to kind of tweak how they manage the scheme. I think from what I've seen from Fernando Mendoza, and there's still a lot to be seen if you can go to that next level. He's not the guy that you put the offense on his back and you say you're that guy you're going to make it doesn't matter who's at receiver and running back. He is the guy that if you've got a really good offensive line, you got to back, you got a few receivers. He is a guy that you could put in charge of the offense and is not going to get you in trouble and it's going to make really good decisions and is a lot better, I think skill wise, then maybe people right now are willing to give him.

00:28:52
Speaker 3: But I worry about the offensive line because you get a first year coach, you get a first year quarter I'm saying, and a bad offensive line, I know, and you got a David Carr situation in Texans exactly fair, and that's that's what would worry me.

00:29:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just.

00:29:06
Speaker 7: Depends on who's going to pull the trigger. I think they got to think about what's around that position, especially if you want immediate results. But if you if you're good in a lot of spots and you put him as your quarterback, then then I think that's going to work out pretty good.

00:29:19
Speaker 3: And you know, when I had you on, I said, you know a lot of times we forget when somebody says something correct, and you're the You're the first guy I heard who said, you know, Indiana getting Fernando Mendoza, Hey, keep an eye on this guy. And he was playing at cow right, And you know that's why I wanted to have you on to acknowledge that.

00:29:37
Speaker 4: And the other thing.

00:29:38
Speaker 3: I've said this before. I don't know if anybody is better at telling me what just happened on a play.

00:29:45
Speaker 4: Ven You thank you.

00:29:46
Speaker 3: I think it's and I don't know if it's it's something that's in you, it's it's learned. But when you get to that telestrator right after the play, you know, balls down handed the official boom.

00:29:59
Speaker 7: So how do you want to say that?

00:30:01
Speaker 3: But how do you see it that when you're watching a play, because you're gonna go, look at this this chip block here and then this back gets out, but he misses his block, bah.

00:30:10
Speaker 4: Blah blah, and it happens so quickly. Yeah, I got the answers to the test.

00:30:16
Speaker 7: I've tried as I've come up. I started with Mike Tariko, you know, years ago at ESPN on Thursday Night. Then I went to Brent Musburger.

00:30:25
Speaker 2: Mike.

00:30:26
Speaker 7: I just felt like with Tim Corgan as the producer, I was like getting a master's class without understanding it. And I really try to pride myself on the why a play just developed and how it developed, and then putting it in terms that the broader audience can appreciate. I tried never to talk down to an audience. I try to talk with an audience, and I just feel that I I always talk to my producer about trying to see that next level analysis. I don't want to just say that was a great throw or what a great route. I want to I want to try to tell the viewer at home, who maybe doesn't have the perspective and I just did watching it, how that play just unfolded. So challenging part. As you said, it happens at six to eight seconds, you're communicating with the truck, you're listening to the play by play guy, and you want to try to tell them it's important to you show me this because I want to show that guard did a great job. I really love talking about line play and how the guard got up to the linebacker after he helped on the double team and climbed up. So probably a lot of reps, but I just I really work at trying to do the next level analysis in real time, not next week in a studio show, but doing it immediately and not even after a commercial break. I like to try to do it right now, just to try to show you know, we're tuned in what's going on.

00:31:50
Speaker 3: But I don't know if and playing quarterback, I don't know if you can see it through that lens that okay, I know what this play, I know this form.

00:32:00
Speaker 4: I know what they might be doing on this.

00:32:02
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that that's your homework, but to be able to do it and diagram too, Yeah, it's I mean it's I don't know what kind of student you were at Ohio State, but but you're Assuma cum Lade when it comes to this.

00:32:17
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I can check the record, you can.

00:32:19
Speaker 3: Check that Centerville High School, high school. But remember sees get degrees.

00:32:24
Speaker 7: That's that's our the gym city, that's our, that's our that's our philosophy.

00:32:30
Speaker 4: Are you rooting for anybody?

00:32:32
Speaker 2: Well?

00:32:33
Speaker 7: I did both these teams on Thursday night with Al and I remember when we did the Rams Seahawks game late. I really thought both those teams were two of the best teams I saw all year. But I thought Seattle's defense man, they're so good and if Sam plays with Sam's capable plan. I just that I'm talking that night. I was like, I think nobody's.

00:32:53
Speaker 2: Gonna beat these guys.

00:32:54
Speaker 7: If they get home field, they're gonna win it all. And now that we're here, I just think I think it's first of all, if you're looking at a I think it's a low scoring game. I think both these defenses are outstanding. What Vrabel's been able to do in one year incredible. Another example of his leadership and how he creates that culture. I think Seattle's gonna win a three point game. I think it's going to be a back and forth game, like typical NFL game goes into the fourth quarter, that one possession is going to be critical late. I think Seattle won a twenty four to twenty one kind of game.

00:33:27
Speaker 4: Did you think May would be this good this fest?

00:33:29
Speaker 3: No?

00:33:30
Speaker 7: No, how could you?

00:33:32
Speaker 4: The number of analysts who were like, well, he played in North Carolina, there was that, and.

00:33:37
Speaker 7: It was the system that he was coming out of. He showed moments that you're just like, this kid's special, and then you talk with him, and then he goes to a whole other level because he's so impressive. Having three older brothers getting roughed up playing golf, playing basketball. I really think all of that developed him into becoming the player that he is. He has that all shucks about him. His defensive players love him, his offensive lineman love him. He's that guy like everybody wants to win for him. There's no resentment with this guy because he's genuinely humble. And then you throw on top of it, what Josh McDaniels is doing with him. We had him in a preseason against the Giants, and I remember talking to Josh McDaniels about him and he just at that point he didn't know that they were gonna go to the super Bowl, but you could tell there was a lot there that he loved. And combine that with Trevion Henderson in the running game. But I think Josh McDaniels deserves a ton of credit for what he's done with me.

00:34:38
Speaker 4: He's Kirk Kurbin Street and his dog Peter.

00:34:41
Speaker 7: He's locked in there.

00:34:42
Speaker 2: You go.

00:34:42
Speaker 4: Maybe he can stay if he wants.

00:34:45
Speaker 7: He's got a calming good before.

00:34:49
Speaker 3: Bruce is the worry free weed killer pet friendly and safe for people pets bees used as directed. Great to see you hurt me, Great to see Brats on your success, and Pete, thanks for joining us back after this and the Dan Patrick Show.

00:35:07
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00:35:19
Speaker 3: He's Andrew luck Stanford University general manager and former number one overall pick by the Colts back in twenty twelve, as we make way for Andrew Luck on the program Looking Lean Man, looks Lean. How much weight did you lose? A good bit twenty pounds. I will say it's too early for my ego to be hurt by being behind a dog at a poll, But I'm coming to terms with that.

00:35:51
Speaker 4: It is a good looking dog.

00:35:52
Speaker 2: Though it's a famous dog, it's a good looking dog. Yeah.

00:35:57
Speaker 4: How close did you come to coaching stand for football?

00:36:01
Speaker 2: Not close at all. You had no interest, no, no interest, no desire. Wasn't right for me?

00:36:06
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought that that that's as close as you can get to replicating what it's like to play. You have no interest in replicating that feeling.

00:36:16
Speaker 10: No look I I volunteer coach for two years at Palelta High School before before taking the GM job.

00:36:22
Speaker 2: Was the freshman offensive coordinator? Uh in JV.

00:36:25
Speaker 1: Were you good?

00:36:26
Speaker 3: No?

00:36:26
Speaker 2: I don't think I was very good. I don't think I was.

00:36:31
Speaker 10: It's I do think I do think there's some truth to what you said Dan about it's the It's probably the closest thing to replicating what it's like to playing, but not right for me. Want I have an incredible respect for the coaching profession. Two, uh for my life, our family, what Stanford football needs and needed a year ago and needs now.

00:36:50
Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm in, I'm in the perfect spot. Explain what your role is.

00:36:54
Speaker 10: Uh So I'm the general manager of the team. I think maybe in some ways also act like a team president or an athletic director just for football. Do a lot of fundraising, a lot of spreading the good word. I feel like a like an evangelical preacher barnstorman you know the country, you know, to proselytizing about Stanford football. Roster management certainly made have made coaching changes, you know, the short tenure and hired Tavita Pritchard ours our as our head coach and helping him with staff. And look, we's what's still so unique about college sports as we Stanford Football exist within Stanford University's ecosystem, right Like it's we're part of this amazing institution of higher ed. So building bridges with the academy. I mean, we have one hundred and nine guys on the team, let's say eighteen to twenty two year olds.

00:37:46
Speaker 2: They're amazing. They also like eighteen to twenty two.

00:37:48
Speaker 10: Year olds, do some dumb stuff, Like I still do dumb stuff, but like we all did dumb stuff and it's uh so working with them every day is a blast. And yeah, it's a little bit of everything. It's a little bit everything, a lot of learning on the job.

00:38:01
Speaker 3: Dan given nil. If you were coming out of high school, would you have still gone to Stanford?

00:38:09
Speaker 2: I would have look one, what three or four years ago? I'm not sure.

00:38:13
Speaker 10: You know, we we we we were a little slow to adapt and embrace the changes. But today absolutely. I was talking to Christian McCaffrey about this last week we saw each other, was asking his perspective on it, and and he was he's I'm sure he'd say it.

00:38:31
Speaker 2: If you're sitting right here, he'd go to Stanford again. Right.

00:38:34
Speaker 10: We have a unique value proposition, and I do know we are serious about football and if you're a serious football player that also has the academic qualifications, the grades, you know we're the place for you.

00:38:47
Speaker 3: But as far as money goes, yeah, and I have somebody who's a great source on this. You've got to have around forty million dollars if you want to be a top end football program. It feels like in the in the treasure trove there the collectives your nil? Is that a fair number? Do you think in Stanford in that?

00:39:05
Speaker 2: I'm not. I won't get into our numbers or any other numbers. I don't.

00:39:09
Speaker 10: I don't see the balance sheets, you know, including collectives. But it's it's a murky market. There's there's not much transparency to it. I think there are certainly schools and programs that seem willing to do whatever it takes, you know, to get there. We we think we can do it our way and be competitive. And look the person the putting right, We got to go out and play games. You gotta go out and put a winning product on the field. You got to teach great football. You got to coach great football. And I think we have that with our our young man in the locker room and our coaching staff.

00:39:42
Speaker 3: But how is it when you're negotiating with somebody who wants money? Yeah, how does that work? Do you talk to the player, the agent, the parents?

00:39:52
Speaker 2: It's the full spectrum. But what is that like?

00:39:56
Speaker 10: You got players certainly representing themselves, You've got agents and and then you have the full continuum of agents right from those who have been doing it for a long time for those who starting out on the journey parents as well. Certainly each one creates a little bit of a different dynamic with its own challenges. I also have a great assistant GM. You know, I'm a people pleaser, Dan, so if I probably it's still it's still part of college is recruiting, right, and fall in love with the kid, and and and selling Stanford. So you know, I get compromise and negotiation fairly quickly.

00:40:28
Speaker 2: You know, what do you want?

00:40:29
Speaker 1: Five million?

00:40:29
Speaker 10: Daan, Okay, I'll give it to you. Let's make a seven, let's go here you go. But it's uh, it's it's a it's a muscle. I'm wanting to exercise as well.

00:40:43
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Okay, what do you miss about football?

00:40:47
Speaker 2: You know?

00:40:48
Speaker 10: The elements of football that I do miss are part of why I'm back in the game in this role right as as a general manager, having a role being on a team. Game days are fun, like I I forgot, like I actually sort of enjoy the stress of are we gonna, you know, win or not?

00:41:05
Speaker 2: Like it's it's exhausting, uh in a in a real way.

00:41:10
Speaker 3: How does the loss affect you when you're the GM as opposed to a quarterback.

00:41:16
Speaker 10: Uh, you're not as physically hurt. I don't miss don't miss getting hit, Okay, I don't miss getting hit. I think you asked different questions the area were sporting our coaches enough, Like there's no waiver wire in the NFL, there's no You don't sign in college like there is in the NFL. You don't sign guys off the street to a place. So you think about, you know, how are we developing our guys? What are we do we have enough of what we need for the future?

00:41:41
Speaker 2: Do do you know?

00:41:42
Speaker 10: Do I need to ask certain questions that that help us going? But I I you know one, you're you're in it with everybody. It's in and it's fun to be back in it. Uh and live in the highs and lows.

00:41:53
Speaker 3: He's Andrew luck, the Stanford University general manager. I did not know this, but people, it's Stanford sent this to me. Stanford's one of five schools to produce a US president and a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

00:42:08
Speaker 4: You know the answers, don't you? Okay, I better know the answer.

00:42:11
Speaker 2: I hope I do.

00:42:12
Speaker 3: Okay, who wants to take a guess here? There are five schools, so Stanford's won Paul Michigan Michigan.

00:42:21
Speaker 2: Is there?

00:42:23
Speaker 3: Marvin Delaware Delaware sneaky snaky Miami of Ohio.

00:42:31
Speaker 4: Navy. Oh yeah, Yeah. Who's the most famous graduate of Stanford?

00:42:40
Speaker 2: Who is the most famous? I don't think Tiger graduated. You didn't.

00:42:50
Speaker 4: You didn't give me any degree.

00:42:53
Speaker 2: Christian hasn't graduated. Huh.

00:42:56
Speaker 4: Do you give honorary degrees?

00:42:58
Speaker 10: I'm sure we give honorary I don't know if we got I don't have that authority, Dan, I don't know who's the most famous.

00:43:06
Speaker 2: Herbert Hoover was our president.

00:43:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's not famous.

00:43:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, Larry Page and Sergey oh very rich oh Rich. Yeah.

00:43:19
Speaker 10: I got to see Jim Plunkett last night and he might not be the most famous, but at least in I think, in my life right now, to see Jim Plunkett walk around and you know, to see a Heisman trophy.

00:43:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, and gosh, hopefully NFL Hall of Fame soon. And he's he's, he's, he's maybe the most relevant Stanford grad in my life besides my wife.

00:43:39
Speaker 3: I always thought that you were a defensive minded player playing quarterback. Did you play with a like a defensive player's mentality or am I overrating.

00:43:50
Speaker 2: Then I I don't know.

00:43:53
Speaker 10: I the last time I played defense was I think seventh or eighth grade, and I got to play defensive end. I enjoyed it, not as much as I enjoyed quarterback. I did relish the opportunities to hit people they were they were few, but when when they popped up it was I enjoyed that.

00:44:11
Speaker 4: But when you would throw an interception, you wanted to make the tackle.

00:44:15
Speaker 2: There was part of me that did. And you know it, it's some of that.

00:44:20
Speaker 10: And I certainly if there's young quarterbacks out there that I'm talking to, some of that takes a toll, right and and there's there's part of being a quarterback that you've got to But.

00:44:29
Speaker 4: Can you do what Peyton did and just go into a fetal position.

00:44:33
Speaker 2: I'm not sure went to a fetal position.

00:44:36
Speaker 4: He went down. He wasn't going to try to make a tackle there.

00:44:40
Speaker 10: Yeah, I played the way I played. I'm not sure if I could have done it anyway else.

00:44:46
Speaker 3: When you look at the game, it used to be that college and the pros were very different. Now the NFL has taken a lot of what college football does. Are they still doing that that what you run offensively is what a lot of these NFL teams are doing, or making the transition easier for these quarterbacks to take yours like you know, Cam Newton, they Carolina took his system at all. Aren't just to make it easier, you know, the transition.

00:45:14
Speaker 10: Well, there's a couple questions there. One the transition of quarterbacks from college to the NFL, which which can be you know, can be a tough one. I know how I was trained at Stanford with Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw and Greg Roman. Was a was an incredible training ground to come into an NFL and run, you know, a Bruce Arians offense and handle some sophistication in the run game and in the past game. I do think UH franchises need to be very honest about what their quarterbacks need, especially rookie quarterbacks, because it's a lot, it's a lot on a young man's plate, and it's a tough position, right, a really tough position. And then as far as the the constant evolution of offenses, I I do think college because of the breadth and at all levels you know, included you know, especially fcs and then FBS, people try stuff right they do. It's it's almost like a Petri dish for offense. And I know part of what what I enjoyed my last year playing in the NFL with Nick Sirianni and Frank Reich as we'd watched we'd watch film of what Iowa State was doing in the RPO game and and install the what we thought we.

00:46:24
Speaker 2: Could we could do. Well. Yeah, absolutely, Look, you've got to look for an edge on offense. Right.

00:46:29
Speaker 10: If you get too stagnant, you die. And and and I think that will always happen. I think I think that will continue to happen where college is a bit of a bit of a you know, try it out area. What role did your wife play in your decision to retire? Oh, I retired, and she she was six maybe seven months pregnant with our eldest, and she was loving being pregnant. And once I felt supported by her no matter what, you know, through it all. And so she was just there a support I didn't. I didn't feel alone through it and helpful, helpful. But you run it by you know, you're it's gonna be a big weekend. You were gonna get to that Sunday and hold a press conference.

00:47:14
Speaker 2: Weren't you?

00:47:15
Speaker 3: And then Saturday at Leaks, Yeah, what was it like when you came home after Saturday's game?

00:47:20
Speaker 10: Well, what her birth her thirtieth birthday party was That was the weekend before, and she's she's accused me ever since of hijacking her birthday party to tell our family who came into town and our close friends that like it was done. So I get to I get to live with that for the rest of my life and our at our relationship.

00:47:40
Speaker 2: Sorry, honey. Uh.

00:47:44
Speaker 10: And then that weekend I remember, you know, I want to say, she used to she used to scooter, like take the electric scooters from our condo in Indianapolis to Lucas Oil Stadium because it's right there downtown. And so she was you know, she wasn't she wasn't gonna go to the game. She know I wasn't playing. It was the preseason game. Chuck Pergano was on the other sideline as the as the coordinator. I think for the Bears. Maybe it was a team yeah, is that right?

00:48:11
Speaker 2: Thanks? Thank you, Paul.

00:48:12
Speaker 10: I'm very disappointed you did not do my impression, which is I may I may accuse it as an act of softness. Perhaps for not doing it, but she was late to the game, so she got on a scooter to get there. When she realized the news broke, it's like, oh shoot, I got to get there and support and support.

00:48:31
Speaker 9: It was a line scooter. They're all over in San Francis for the line. They're readily available public transportation. It was about forty five minutes to get down here, down twenty pounds for my playing like glad to be in charge so Stamford Cardinal.

00:48:45
Speaker 7: Football go o red.

00:48:47
Speaker 1: Well.

00:48:51
Speaker 4: I did ask him if he was going to do the impersonation. He goes, I don't know. I probably should.

00:48:55
Speaker 9: Answer, is such a nice guy, he can still pound my face.

00:48:58
Speaker 3: And then I said no, no, no, you gotta do it. You know it's it's a tradition unlike any other. I don't know if there's a big market out there for Andrew Luck impersonators here like Frank Kelliendo is probably not gonna do one.

00:49:11
Speaker 9: Yes, But when Andrew came back and took over his Stanford football GM, I got to bring it back out again.

00:49:16
Speaker 4: Thank you.

00:49:16
Speaker 3: Nobody was more excited to see you back in mainstream America than good Luck with the role there. Thank you and Uh, can you get fired? Sure you can, absolutely, Okay, yeah, I don't want that to happen. I'm just saying I don't know who's your boss.

00:49:32
Speaker 10: My boss is our athletic director. Oh okay, he's fantastic, but yes he can fire me.

00:49:37
Speaker 2: I got it. We gotta perform.

00:49:38
Speaker 1: I know.

00:49:40
Speaker 4: It sounds like something you would say, gotta perform.

00:49:42
Speaker 7: Perform.

00:49:43
Speaker 4: All eligible at least seven wins, all.

00:49:49
Speaker 3: Is Andrew Luck, Thank you. I appreciate it. Not a bad fatday, nurse guys. We'll take a break. We're back after this.

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