343 | Art of the Session: A Complete Framework for Confident Practice
Play Therapy Podcast: A Master-Class in Child-Centered Play Therapy
In this final episode of the Art of the Session series, I walk through a full recap of everything we've covered over the past 16 episodes. This has been one of the most in-depth series I've ever done, and it's all about grounding ourselves in the foundational structure of CCPT sessions — from how we set up our playrooms, to how we greet children and parents, to how we execute the core responses and maintain a child-led presence throughout.
My hope is that this episode brings it all together in a simple, clear framework that supports your confidence and adherence to the model. While CCPT is not always easy to execute, it is simple — and when you internalize the pillars, the reflective responses, and the essential mindset of being rather than doing, it becomes second nature. Thank you for walking through this series with me. I'm so grateful for your commitment to the model, and the kids you serve.
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Common References: Cochran, N., Nordling, W., & Cochran, J. (2010). Child-Centered Play Therapy (1st ed.). Wiley. VanFleet, R., Sywulak, A. E., & Sniscak, C. C. (2010). Child-centered play therapy. Guilford Press. Landreth, G.L. (2023). Play Therapy: The Art of the Relationship (4th ed.). Routledge. Landreth, G.L., & Bratton, S.C. (2019). Child-Parent Relationship Therapy (CPRT): An Evidence-Based 10-Session Filial Therapy Model (2nd ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781315537948 Benedict, Helen. Themes in Play Therapy. Used with permission to Heartland Play Therapy Institute.
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0 00:00:00,469 --> 00:00:04,309 You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks, 1 00:00:04,469 --> 00:00:08,210 your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching. 2 00:00:08,510 --> 00:00:08,699 Hi, 3 00:00:08,789 --> 00:00:09,819 I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks, 4 00:00:09,829 --> 00:00:10,569 The Kid Counselor. 5 00:00:10,750 --> 00:00:12,710 This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get 6 00:00:12,710 --> 00:00:15,100 a master class in child-centered play therapy 7 00:00:15,100 --> 00:00:17,530 and practical support and application for your 8 00:00:17,530 --> 00:00:19,219 work with children and their families. 9 00:00:19,870 --> 00:00:20,440 Today's episode, 10 00:00:20,549 --> 00:00:23,110 we are finishing up Art of the Session. 11 00:00:24,139 --> 00:00:26,459 And I'd like to kind of do 12 00:00:26,909 --> 00:00:27,579 a recap, 13 00:00:27,590 --> 00:00:28,090 if you will, 14 00:00:28,129 --> 00:00:29,100 an overview 15 00:00:29,750 --> 00:00:30,719 of everything we talked about. 16 00:00:30,750 --> 00:00:32,990 This is one of the longest series we've ever done. 17 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:36,740 So quite a bit of content in this series, 18 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:37,509 but 19 00:00:37,909 --> 00:00:41,500 the goal of this entire series and even this episode 20 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:43,279 is to give us 21 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:44,849 not only a reminder 22 00:00:45,150 --> 00:00:46,619 but a refresher 23 00:00:46,990 --> 00:00:48,220 on the framework 24 00:00:48,430 --> 00:00:50,419 and the simplicity of the model, 25 00:00:51,029 --> 00:00:53,180 even though it is not easy to execute, 26 00:00:53,790 --> 00:00:57,060 we have a finite number of things that we should be doing 27 00:00:57,509 --> 00:00:59,549 and they can be put into a system. 28 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:03,279 So that's my goal for this series and this episode, 29 00:01:03,709 --> 00:01:08,300 really kind of hone in on what does that look like and what can we practically do 30 00:01:08,989 --> 00:01:10,260 from start to finish. 31 00:01:11,069 --> 00:01:13,980 To make sure that our sessions with kids 32 00:01:14,269 --> 00:01:16,300 are exactly how they are intended to be. 33 00:01:16,870 --> 00:01:17,660 Before we dive in, 34 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:19,489 this is your last chance, 35 00:01:19,589 --> 00:01:19,709 well, 36 00:01:19,750 --> 00:01:21,510 the last podcast episode about it, 37 00:01:21,750 --> 00:01:22,139 but 38 00:01:22,830 --> 00:01:23,860 this coming week, 39 00:01:23,910 --> 00:01:25,279 we are meeting in Houston. 40 00:01:25,349 --> 00:01:26,400 So if you have not, 41 00:01:26,430 --> 00:01:26,580 look, 42 00:01:26,709 --> 00:01:27,389 I know y'all, 43 00:01:27,550 --> 00:01:28,900 I because I'm the same way. 44 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:30,559 If you wait till the last minute to do it, 45 00:01:30,569 --> 00:01:32,000 it only takes a minute to do. 46 00:01:32,269 --> 00:01:33,019 I get it. 47 00:01:33,150 --> 00:01:35,190 If you procrastinate like me and you're like, 48 00:01:35,290 --> 00:01:35,430 yeah, 49 00:01:35,550 --> 00:01:36,580 maybe I'll do that later, 50 00:01:36,629 --> 00:01:36,980 whatever, 51 00:01:37,069 --> 00:01:39,379 you're running out of time and I need a headcount. 52 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,919 So in the show notes, 53 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,349 please RSVP to the meetup. 54 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,629 I know a lot of you have, 55 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,269 just let me know you're coming because I need to be prepared, 56 00:01:47,559 --> 00:01:51,319 and I don't want to be at the last minute taking a minute to do something. 57 00:01:51,559 --> 00:01:52,839 So please don't do that to me. 58 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:53,319 Hurry up, 59 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:54,309 RSVP. 60 00:01:54,919 --> 00:01:55,389 All right. 61 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,250 So let's talk through everything 62 00:01:58,519 --> 00:01:59,510 in this series, 63 00:01:59,919 --> 00:02:01,120 a little recap, 64 00:02:01,169 --> 00:02:01,870 if you will. 65 00:02:02,779 --> 00:02:04,000 Setting up the playroom, 66 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,050 we have to be intentional 67 00:02:06,349 --> 00:02:07,769 about how it is arranged, 68 00:02:08,020 --> 00:02:09,070 what is included, 69 00:02:09,460 --> 00:02:10,649 what toys are in there, 70 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:12,380 and it needs to be thoughtful, 71 00:02:12,419 --> 00:02:13,289 there's purpose. 72 00:02:14,190 --> 00:02:14,839 So 73 00:02:15,089 --> 00:02:16,679 think about the three categories, 74 00:02:16,850 --> 00:02:18,089 think about the layout, 75 00:02:18,529 --> 00:02:19,410 toys are selected, 76 00:02:19,490 --> 00:02:20,350 not collected. 77 00:02:21,490 --> 00:02:22,919 No technology, 78 00:02:23,089 --> 00:02:24,399 no screens, 79 00:02:24,809 --> 00:02:25,559 no 80 00:02:25,889 --> 00:02:30,559 agenda driven or leading guiding kind of electrical toys. 81 00:02:31,169 --> 00:02:35,639 So remove batteries from anything that's going to distract the child from 82 00:02:35,889 --> 00:02:36,940 organic play. 83 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,740 And the playroom needs to be neutral. 84 00:02:41,070 --> 00:02:42,020 Don't decorate it, 85 00:02:42,149 --> 00:02:44,419 don't put art up on the walls. 86 00:02:44,910 --> 00:02:48,479 It needs to feel like it is ideal for every single child. 87 00:02:48,509 --> 00:02:49,979 Every child that walks in there 88 00:02:50,309 --> 00:02:51,699 should be able to make it their own. 89 00:02:52,350 --> 00:02:54,690 And everything about it is purposeful. 90 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,110 Then 91 00:02:56,910 --> 00:02:58,169 When they walk through the door. 92 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 You have an opportunity. 93 00:03:02,770 --> 00:03:03,550 To 94 00:03:03,929 --> 00:03:05,399 have a conversation 95 00:03:06,050 --> 00:03:09,919 from the second they step foot into your lobby or your 96 00:03:10,210 --> 00:03:12,850 waiting room or your office or whatever it is, 97 00:03:12,929 --> 00:03:14,720 wherever you first interact with them. 98 00:03:15,690 --> 00:03:17,080 You have an opportunity 99 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:18,220 to be very 100 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:20,380 intentional about what that's like. 101 00:03:21,339 --> 00:03:22,729 You get down on their level, 102 00:03:22,899 --> 00:03:24,139 you make eye contact, 103 00:03:24,259 --> 00:03:26,050 you make the focus on the child. 104 00:03:26,869 --> 00:03:29,660 You help them feel that they are the most important 105 00:03:29,660 --> 00:03:31,929 thing to you during that hour because they are. 106 00:03:33,449 --> 00:03:36,669 And you want to say hello and you're happy to see them 107 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,910 and you want it to be very clear, 108 00:03:39,399 --> 00:03:42,240 you have been looking forward to this meeting. 109 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:48,580 And this is also when you engage with parents because 110 00:03:48,910 --> 00:03:50,740 you have to build a relationship with them too, 111 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:55,660 but the primary function is that we make it really clear to the child 112 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:56,860 that you 113 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:59,699 are exuding the be with attitudes 114 00:04:00,190 --> 00:04:01,500 as soon as you see them. 115 00:04:02,669 --> 00:04:05,220 Then you can make it part of your process 116 00:04:05,830 --> 00:04:09,309 to walk back to the session with empowerment choices. 117 00:04:10,020 --> 00:04:11,229 So what can you do? 118 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:12,710 What can you work in 119 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:15,630 so that you can provide empowerment choices? 120 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:19,899 You can choose for them to wash their hands in a certain location, 121 00:04:19,910 --> 00:04:21,720 you can choose for them to use sanitizer. 122 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:22,959 You can choose for them 123 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:25,309 to go up the elevator or the stairs. 124 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,100 You can choose for them to turn on the light or you turn on the light. 125 00:04:28,309 --> 00:04:30,700 You can choose for them to shut the door or you shut the door. 126 00:04:30,910 --> 00:04:32,859 There are all kinds of options. 127 00:04:33,559 --> 00:04:35,970 So that as part of the standard 128 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:36,950 process, 129 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:37,920 consistency, 130 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,880 predictability, 131 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:40,230 stability for kids. 132 00:04:41,290 --> 00:04:43,450 They know exactly what you're going to say, 133 00:04:43,660 --> 00:04:45,200 they know exactly what to expect, 134 00:04:45,260 --> 00:04:47,209 and they're going to make choices accordingly. 135 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,329 Then when they walk through the playroom door. 136 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:54,109 You have a very intentional dialogue. 137 00:04:55,269 --> 00:04:56,660 Welcome back to the playroom. 138 00:04:57,579 --> 00:04:58,890 So happy to be with you. 139 00:05:00,019 --> 00:05:01,070 This is your time, 140 00:05:01,119 --> 00:05:01,809 you're in charge. 141 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,510 You can choose to play with all the toys in most of the ways that you want. 142 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,149 That is the mark of when they get to be in charge from there forward. 143 00:05:11,570 --> 00:05:12,609 That is the signal, 144 00:05:12,649 --> 00:05:13,480 if you will, 145 00:05:14,130 --> 00:05:16,559 that we've transitioned away from, 146 00:05:16,929 --> 00:05:20,480 I'm walking you back and I'm still kind of the authority figure, 147 00:05:21,010 --> 00:05:23,410 and we're talking about random things, 148 00:05:23,570 --> 00:05:26,140 but as soon as this phrase is communicated. 149 00:05:27,359 --> 00:05:29,899 I'm no longer anything other than the 150 00:05:30,170 --> 00:05:31,769 therapeutic guide rail for you. 151 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,559 And this is your hour to do what you need to do. 152 00:05:37,690 --> 00:05:40,010 Then you have the framework for the session. 153 00:05:41,420 --> 00:05:42,309 We have 154 00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:44,339 a limited number of responses. 155 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,989 I think we overcomplicate this, 156 00:05:47,019 --> 00:05:47,239 and I, 157 00:05:47,269 --> 00:05:48,739 I've been saying this a lot lately. 158 00:05:49,470 --> 00:05:50,920 I think we overthink, 159 00:05:51,250 --> 00:05:54,230 and I think that we stress ourselves out about 160 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:55,809 all the things that we're supposed to be doing. 161 00:05:56,649 --> 00:05:57,790 And in reality, 162 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:00,890 there's only a handful of things that we're ever going to say. 163 00:06:02,540 --> 00:06:03,130 We have 164 00:06:03,260 --> 00:06:04,260 the 4 pillars. 165 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:07,660 We have the reflective responses. 166 00:06:08,890 --> 00:06:10,920 And we have a few other phrases. 167 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,950 This is really important because if we realize 168 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,910 I'm only ever going to be saying one of 11 things, 169 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:21,399 it doesn't feel nearly as overwhelming. 170 00:06:22,709 --> 00:06:24,470 So let's very quickly just kind of 171 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,679 recap what those are. 172 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,989 We're going to use one of the three reflective responses. 173 00:06:30,250 --> 00:06:31,369 We're going to track behavior, 174 00:06:31,570 --> 00:06:32,130 reflect content, 175 00:06:32,329 --> 00:06:33,079 reflect feelings. 176 00:06:35,309 --> 00:06:36,179 Say what you see. 177 00:06:36,929 --> 00:06:38,079 Say what is said. 178 00:06:38,690 --> 00:06:40,459 Say what they express or feel. 179 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:43,140 There's simplicity in it, 180 00:06:43,209 --> 00:06:44,640 those can always be given. 181 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:46,309 No matter what, 182 00:06:46,429 --> 00:06:47,220 one of those 183 00:06:47,390 --> 00:06:48,670 is always appropriate. 184 00:06:49,739 --> 00:06:50,890 And if they're not saying anything 185 00:06:50,890 --> 00:06:52,600 and they're not expressing anything emotionally, 186 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:54,600 then your default is tracking behavior. 187 00:06:55,049 --> 00:06:59,130 You can have those in your back pocket to pull out at any moment. 188 00:06:59,410 --> 00:07:02,369 If you are ever at a loss for what you should be saying. 189 00:07:03,410 --> 00:07:05,200 One of the reflective responses 190 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:06,040 will 191 00:07:06,329 --> 00:07:08,410 be your opportunity to communicate something. 192 00:07:09,769 --> 00:07:11,029 Beyond that, 193 00:07:11,369 --> 00:07:12,529 we have the pillars. 194 00:07:12,609 --> 00:07:12,799 Now, 195 00:07:13,019 --> 00:07:14,850 reflecting feelings is one of the pillars, 196 00:07:14,929 --> 00:07:18,359 so there's crossover in the reflective responses in the pillars. 197 00:07:18,649 --> 00:07:20,209 The additional three pillars. 198 00:07:21,140 --> 00:07:22,450 We can provide choices. 199 00:07:23,779 --> 00:07:26,649 We already have talked about empowerment choices on the way back. 200 00:07:27,190 --> 00:07:29,619 We can provide choices within the session as well. 201 00:07:31,489 --> 00:07:33,290 Choices are also a part of limits. 202 00:07:34,239 --> 00:07:36,269 So if a limit is necessary, 203 00:07:36,619 --> 00:07:38,309 choices are worked into 204 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,269 the limits that are set as well. 205 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:41,880 Those are enforcement choices. 206 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,149 So we can provide choices for empowerment. 207 00:07:45,940 --> 00:07:47,760 We set limits when necessary. 208 00:07:48,970 --> 00:07:51,089 And we use encouragement and esteem building. 209 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:54,670 Encouragement is the actual pillar of esteem building is a related concept. 210 00:07:55,660 --> 00:07:57,540 We're going to consistently. 211 00:07:58,519 --> 00:07:59,390 Encourage 212 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,390 the effort. 213 00:08:01,390 --> 00:08:02,929 The contributions. 214 00:08:04,339 --> 00:08:05,609 What they are 215 00:08:06,250 --> 00:08:07,279 doing in a session, 216 00:08:07,329 --> 00:08:08,529 not about the outcome. 217 00:08:09,779 --> 00:08:10,859 Never about the outcome. 218 00:08:13,230 --> 00:08:16,149 And esteem building responses are acknowledging what 219 00:08:16,149 --> 00:08:17,769 the child is actively working on. 220 00:08:18,850 --> 00:08:19,790 You're not giving up. 221 00:08:19,829 --> 00:08:20,859 You have a plan. 222 00:08:21,230 --> 00:08:22,220 You're working on it. 223 00:08:22,350 --> 00:08:23,380 You're figuring it out. 224 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Encouragement. 225 00:08:25,459 --> 00:08:25,859 You did it. 226 00:08:25,899 --> 00:08:26,420 You got it. 227 00:08:26,459 --> 00:08:27,410 You knew what to do. 228 00:08:29,399 --> 00:08:33,080 Those are huge boosts of confidence for a child. 229 00:08:35,650 --> 00:08:38,299 And then the following are some guidelines, 230 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:39,580 not necessarily a skill, 231 00:08:39,739 --> 00:08:41,380 but certainly something that 232 00:08:41,979 --> 00:08:42,599 we 233 00:08:43,450 --> 00:08:44,780 want to 234 00:08:45,150 --> 00:08:47,859 engage in these ways in the sessions 235 00:08:48,549 --> 00:08:50,340 from Axline and or Landreth. 236 00:08:51,229 --> 00:08:51,900 If you 237 00:08:52,109 --> 00:08:53,510 need more info on these, 238 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:56,020 you can go back to the CCPT Purism series. 239 00:08:57,260 --> 00:08:59,880 But one of the other things that we do is follow the metaphor. 240 00:09:02,330 --> 00:09:06,690 We are always trying to continue what the child has given us to work with. 241 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,190 If they say that 242 00:09:10,460 --> 00:09:11,549 something is 243 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:12,820 a ship, 244 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,659 we continue to say that's a ship. 245 00:09:17,780 --> 00:09:19,190 We don't label things. 246 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,510 So we're going to say that and it and those. 247 00:09:24,479 --> 00:09:25,429 Instead of 248 00:09:25,599 --> 00:09:26,349 the dog 249 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,989 because it might not be a dog. 250 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:30,919 We're going to remain neutral. 251 00:09:30,979 --> 00:09:32,940 Our responses are always neutral. 252 00:09:33,859 --> 00:09:34,880 They're not charged, 253 00:09:34,979 --> 00:09:36,080 they're not emotional. 254 00:09:37,289 --> 00:09:39,450 They are factual declarations. 255 00:09:40,419 --> 00:09:42,179 Birthed out of neutrality. 256 00:09:43,940 --> 00:09:48,460 And we don't ever impart wisdom or teach or preach or instruct. 257 00:09:48,770 --> 00:09:51,130 We do not possess what the child does not possess. 258 00:09:52,419 --> 00:09:53,510 So we have no knowledge, 259 00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:54,349 no understanding, 260 00:09:54,469 --> 00:09:56,219 no awareness that the child doesn't either. 261 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,960 Then we provide narrative commentary. 262 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,869 Narrative commentary is 263 00:10:02,479 --> 00:10:03,070 the 264 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:04,830 additional option 265 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,559 instead of just tracking behavior all the time. 266 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,179 So instead of saying you picked that up. 267 00:10:12,039 --> 00:10:13,549 Narrative commentary might be, 268 00:10:14,159 --> 00:10:16,890 you grabbed it and you're moving it all the way over there. 269 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,859 It's an observational dialogue 270 00:10:21,130 --> 00:10:22,869 about what's taking place, 271 00:10:23,239 --> 00:10:23,989 bigger picture. 272 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:27,739 I wonder and whisper technique. 273 00:10:29,059 --> 00:10:33,289 I wonder statements exclusively used when we need a cue. 274 00:10:35,020 --> 00:10:38,219 If you use an I wonder statement in any other context, 275 00:10:38,260 --> 00:10:39,739 it is not CCPT. 276 00:10:41,099 --> 00:10:43,440 We reserve those exclusively 277 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:46,429 for when a child is needing to 278 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,469 direct us to do something, 279 00:10:48,719 --> 00:10:51,570 and we are unsure about what we should say or do next. 280 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:54,969 I wonder what the robber does. 281 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:58,460 I wonder how I cut this paper. 282 00:11:00,119 --> 00:11:02,869 Whatever we've been told to do when we need clarity, 283 00:11:03,239 --> 00:11:04,590 we use an I wonder statement. 284 00:11:04,799 --> 00:11:05,950 For no other reason 285 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,270 do we wonder. 286 00:11:08,109 --> 00:11:12,809 And that can be coupled with and or an additional option is the whisper technique. 287 00:11:13,059 --> 00:11:15,099 So anytime we need to know something, 288 00:11:15,179 --> 00:11:16,130 we can whisper it. 289 00:11:18,109 --> 00:11:19,179 What do I do now? 290 00:11:20,450 --> 00:11:21,419 Really helpful. 291 00:11:21,849 --> 00:11:22,489 And then, 292 00:11:22,770 --> 00:11:24,210 how do we engage in role play? 293 00:11:26,460 --> 00:11:28,210 We have to be invited in. 294 00:11:30,969 --> 00:11:33,799 We make sure we know exactly what we are to say and do. 295 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:38,609 Sometimes we wait because we tend to push the pace. 296 00:11:38,820 --> 00:11:39,830 If a kid says, 297 00:11:39,940 --> 00:11:41,369 now we're going to do this, 298 00:11:41,739 --> 00:11:44,489 we try to jump ahead to figure out what comes next. 299 00:11:45,940 --> 00:11:47,799 We are patient and we wait 300 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:49,299 for directives. 301 00:11:50,890 --> 00:11:52,070 And we don't ad lib. 302 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,909 And we don't provide commentary and we don't make assumptions. 303 00:11:56,650 --> 00:11:59,640 Everything about role play is child led. 304 00:12:00,460 --> 00:12:02,650 So we wait and we get cues 305 00:12:02,979 --> 00:12:04,250 and we respond accordingly. 306 00:12:05,820 --> 00:12:07,179 And so here's 307 00:12:08,049 --> 00:12:09,250 What all of that means. 308 00:12:09,489 --> 00:12:11,440 We've spent 16 sessions on this. 309 00:12:12,789 --> 00:12:13,549 16 episodes, 310 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:14,299 I suppose, 311 00:12:14,789 --> 00:12:15,789 in Art of the Session. 312 00:12:16,460 --> 00:12:17,820 And what 313 00:12:18,150 --> 00:12:21,070 the goal for this entire series 314 00:12:22,429 --> 00:12:24,869 is to give us the foundation. 315 00:12:25,909 --> 00:12:27,210 And equip us 316 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:29,450 so that we feel confident. 317 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,950 I know exactly 318 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,510 what needs to happen. 319 00:12:34,630 --> 00:12:35,940 To have a session with a child. 320 00:12:37,710 --> 00:12:38,979 CCPT is hard. 321 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:41,789 It's simple, 322 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,669 but it's hard. 323 00:12:44,119 --> 00:12:45,820 And sometimes we need 324 00:12:46,299 --> 00:12:46,880 some 325 00:12:47,419 --> 00:12:48,770 ground beneath us. 326 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:50,219 If I do this, 327 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:51,049 and then I do this, 328 00:12:51,219 --> 00:12:51,979 and then I do this, 329 00:12:52,020 --> 00:12:53,020 and then I do this. 330 00:12:54,359 --> 00:12:56,020 I know that I'm adherent to the model. 331 00:12:56,119 --> 00:12:57,659 It takes away some of the unknown. 332 00:12:57,700 --> 00:12:59,109 It takes away some of the confusion. 333 00:13:00,169 --> 00:13:01,609 But I want to be really clear. 334 00:13:02,669 --> 00:13:03,510 Because 335 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:05,070 I know how this goes, 336 00:13:05,460 --> 00:13:06,919 because I coach so many 337 00:13:07,229 --> 00:13:08,229 therapists that I, 338 00:13:08,270 --> 00:13:10,140 I see this happen all day every day. 339 00:13:11,609 --> 00:13:14,200 If I do this and I do this and I do this and I do this. 340 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:15,989 Yes, 341 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:17,500 we have objectives. 342 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:17,929 Yes, 343 00:13:18,020 --> 00:13:19,059 there are skills. 344 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:20,000 Yes, 345 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,090 there's a framework. 346 00:13:22,659 --> 00:13:24,000 But at the end of the day 347 00:13:24,250 --> 00:13:25,400 we are not doing, 348 00:13:25,729 --> 00:13:26,559 we are being. 349 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:29,530 So the balance point here. 350 00:13:30,669 --> 00:13:31,940 is that we 351 00:13:32,349 --> 00:13:36,140 are managing what we need to be doing 352 00:13:36,590 --> 00:13:37,789 in execution. 353 00:13:39,830 --> 00:13:42,469 But making sure that that is not the focus. 354 00:13:42,599 --> 00:13:43,750 The focus is 355 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:44,669 the being. 356 00:13:45,630 --> 00:13:47,450 We are child-centered. 357 00:13:49,250 --> 00:13:51,520 We embody child-centeredness. 358 00:13:53,070 --> 00:13:54,679 Relationship and environment. 359 00:13:56,219 --> 00:13:57,030 Always 360 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,080 and forever. 361 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:00,840 Are the two most important things. 362 00:14:02,750 --> 00:14:03,969 So Art of the Session, 363 00:14:04,049 --> 00:14:06,919 we need to know how to execute these things, 364 00:14:07,369 --> 00:14:09,940 and there are things that we do. 365 00:14:11,549 --> 00:14:12,859 Yet at the same time. 366 00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:15,030 More importantly, 367 00:14:16,099 --> 00:14:19,169 is that this helps us be CCPT. 368 00:14:20,530 --> 00:14:21,880 Because when you're all in, 369 00:14:22,289 --> 00:14:24,090 you are CCPT. 370 00:14:25,789 --> 00:14:27,429 So let that be an encouragement to y'all. 371 00:14:28,309 --> 00:14:29,500 We are officially done. 372 00:14:29,630 --> 00:14:32,539 We are moving into some individual topics 373 00:14:33,070 --> 00:14:36,460 so that we can have a little bit of a break before we dive into a new series, 374 00:14:36,549 --> 00:14:40,239 and there are quite a few things that have been coming up pretty regularly lately 375 00:14:40,669 --> 00:14:43,500 that I know many of you are wondering about and asking about, 376 00:14:43,669 --> 00:14:45,460 so we're gonna tackle some of those 377 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,270 individual topics for several weeks. 378 00:14:48,789 --> 00:14:51,020 Thank you all so much for the feedback from the series. 379 00:14:51,229 --> 00:14:53,289 Thank you for listening faithfully. 380 00:14:53,780 --> 00:14:56,099 I've been getting emails literally from all over the world. 381 00:14:56,190 --> 00:14:58,760 I've had people joining the Collective from all over the world, 382 00:14:59,190 --> 00:15:02,419 and the common thread in every single one of the people is, 383 00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:04,099 I am so hungry. 384 00:15:04,909 --> 00:15:07,219 To be the best that I can be at this. 385 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:10,590 And that is at the heart of this podcast for 386 00:15:10,590 --> 00:15:14,070 every single minute that you spend listening to these episodes. 387 00:15:14,979 --> 00:15:16,429 For every minute 388 00:15:16,659 --> 00:15:18,049 that you work on 389 00:15:18,260 --> 00:15:19,700 being CCPT. 390 00:15:20,909 --> 00:15:21,940 It's for you, 391 00:15:22,229 --> 00:15:23,539 but in the grand scheme, 392 00:15:23,710 --> 00:15:24,750 it's for your kids. 393 00:15:25,630 --> 00:15:27,369 And it's for their future, 394 00:15:27,580 --> 00:15:29,369 and it's for their well-being, 395 00:15:29,820 --> 00:15:31,330 it's for their families, 396 00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:35,130 it's for the cyclical change that will come out of that. 397 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:37,849 It's for the communities in which they live. 398 00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:40,640 My long running 399 00:15:41,130 --> 00:15:41,960 vision 400 00:15:42,289 --> 00:15:45,010 is a world full of happy kids that become happy adults. 401 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:47,429 We don't get there 402 00:15:48,780 --> 00:15:50,669 Unless we have people 403 00:15:51,020 --> 00:15:52,619 that are CCPT. 404 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:55,349 That are serving kids and their families. 405 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,659 And so every minute that you spend with this podcast, 406 00:15:59,909 --> 00:16:00,909 I am grateful, 407 00:16:01,150 --> 00:16:02,179 I am thankful. 408 00:16:03,010 --> 00:16:05,830 And I know the impact that this is having 409 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:08,669 on kids all over the world 410 00:16:08,919 --> 00:16:10,880 and what a blessing for me, 411 00:16:11,239 --> 00:16:12,549 what a blessing for us, 412 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,619 what a blessing for children and their families 413 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,830 and 50 years from now when these kids have grandkids. 414 00:16:21,289 --> 00:16:22,320 There's a ripple, 415 00:16:22,609 --> 00:16:24,080 and we know that 416 00:16:24,489 --> 00:16:26,809 they become catalysts for change long term. 417 00:16:28,409 --> 00:16:29,960 What a special thing to be a part of. 418 00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:31,929 So I very much appreciate y'all. 419 00:16:32,049 --> 00:16:34,479 Thank you for being so committed to this 420 00:16:34,890 --> 00:16:35,330 and 421 00:16:35,570 --> 00:16:36,650 CCPT is amazing, 422 00:16:36,729 --> 00:16:37,479 as you know. 423 00:16:37,849 --> 00:16:38,650 We'll talk again soon. 424 00:16:38,729 --> 00:16:39,210 I love y'all. 425 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:39,690 Bye. 426 00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:43,570 Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. 427 00:16:43,729 --> 00:16:44,650 Brenna Hicks. 428 00:16:44,809 --> 00:16:46,770 For more episodes and resources, 429 00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:51,650 please go to www.playtherapypodcast.com.