Club 520 - Norris Cole on playing with LeBron & Miami Heat, Ray Allen’s shot in 2013 NBA Finals

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How you went nasty, cool and national. Let's 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.800 get to a baby another one. Okay, say out of uniform, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.440 but it's all good. It's all good. Hey Norse, you 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:41.720 know what I'm saying, You and me and West Kid. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.400 But you have you ever seen them feats over there? 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:44.880 The black forces with the white license. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:46.240 I've never seen those before. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.520 I get you up here, bro, you were like that, 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.400 I guess now, so you can you see a nigga 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.920 at the gas sation of the opposite direction. He got 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.080 his own license now too, though, so yeah up, yeah 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.240 shoe licens might mean my own licens, bro, So shout 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.000 out to the cavalry. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:04.920 That's where it started. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.320 We try to spread the Black fortes across the world. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.280 That's about right, my dog. You're not sure your tea? 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:13.200 How you wre man? 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:14.840 I'm chilling, bro, I'm cool. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.200 I'm glad. We got my guy in the building. Still 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.519 fuck Cleveland State. But it's all love. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:22.480 Listen, this wasn't even playing. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.839 You got the Columbia's on. My boy got the what's 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.840 having his own already be at the Gamazon. It's love, bro, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.120 you know what I mean? Black against white, it's all of. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:39.400 Sixty. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:43.480 That's perfect. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.160 When we played them, remember us say the day that 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.280 the rank so we was both ranked and whoever win 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.120 that game was going to be number one, and obviously 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.800 they won. But like that was my first introduction to 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.600 Greg on the court, Like you obviously saw him play 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.000 on like film, but like he was like a mountain. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.800 Now of course it was no layup ruling effect like 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.080 shoot your floaters. I even show the floater he blocked one, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.560 so it was like shoot three, shoot three. Then you know, 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:10.880 Mike gonna control the whole game. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.680 Yeah, was that your first time I'm seeing somebody like that? 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.040 Yeah, that was my first time seeing Yeah. I mean 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.639 we played against talented dudes, but like Greg was d dude, 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:20.440 you know what I'm saying. Like we played against division 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.200 one h Greg was a pro th and then Mike. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.160 We played against scoring point guards and fast point guard. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.600 But Mike had the ultimate balance. He was super quick, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.000 but he was poised. He knew when the score and 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:33.520 went not to score. Like that was the first time 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.600 I seen like a floor general in high school because 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.400 most dudes just score. He was a true floor general. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:42.280 Like Mike would He could not score the game and 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.920 still dictate the game. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:46.320 He averaged eleven in high school. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.400 Yeah, it was tough, but eleven assists two. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.160 Though he was but I'm saying, though, niggas really like 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.960 sleep like and he was, yes, foot. 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.320 Dunk right foot dunk let right two. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.120 And it's funny hearing that both of y'all because of 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.720 how y'all play y'all fast. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:05.960 But Mike was different. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.440 He probably ran out four to two, but. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.240 Like you said, from the free throw line with two 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:12.760 hands like. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.120 Vertical. He's actually watching dunk off vertical. Dangn Hey, why 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:19.760 Yon'll never dunk? 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.000 He's like for what I heard? You play football too, though, Bro, 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.159 what po was this? Did you play QB okay? Is 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:27.159 that your first love? 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.599 Or I was naturally better at football? But all my 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.760 uncles went to college for football like Division. One had 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.120 then uncle that went to Nebraska, played in the Big Eight. Yeah, 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.000 time playing in the Orange Bowl. I had another uncle 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.280 that played in Eastern Washington. Another one played at Texas 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.159 Southern Football Central State. So football was like in my family. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.560 Like my first cousin, Trent Cole, played for the Philadelphia 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.560 Eagles for years, so football was like that was in 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.839 the family. We all played basketball too, but like football 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.120 was like my first love because it was I was 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.240 the most skill that it. I played all the sports, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.080 but that one came natural, like I didn't have to 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:02.640 do too much to know how to play. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.120 That's who started recruiting you heavy, that's where you did 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.320 your first skully come from football or both, but. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.440 It was low level. For basketball, I never got only 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.560 had one Division offer for basketball that was Cleveland State. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:13.000 Okay. 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:19.560 For football, I would get like max schools Toledo. Yeah, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.200 but I never really entertained it because I wanted to 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.359 play basketball. I wanted to play basketball. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:26.880 To ask how you got but you said that was 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:27.920 your offering, the only one. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:32.839 I was committed to go to n I A washn 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.360 A Division two and then my my high school coach 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.839 couldn't accept it. He didn't. He was like, no, it's like, 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:40.320 you know, she at least got to give a division 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.000 on to try. I said, well, you know division was 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:43.880 coming and I'm not paying for school, Like I didn't 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.000 have an ego. I was like, I'm going to school somewhere. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.479 Then Cleveland State. You know, they came and watched me 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.480 playing the state championship. We want to stay my senior 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.880 year and then they offered me a scholarship and I 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:54.880 was like, that's where I'm going. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.080 That was all she wrote after that, that's a lot 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.360 of motivations for something. These guys who on got office 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:02.080 right now, like. 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.800 Don't have no go where they want you. I was 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.719 that's the thing with me. I wasn't going gonna go 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.440 look for some D one and didn't want me. I 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.120 was gonna ask me to like pay half because I 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.200 was gonna get academic schlarship because my grades was nice. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.279 It was like having me pay half to get on 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.320 the team. I was like, no, like wash wanted me 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.840 any i A. They was laying the red carpet out. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.359 I'm gonna be the guy. So I'm like cool. And 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.480 then Cleveland State came. They came to my house, sat 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.240 in my you know, talk to my dad, my mom, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.040 my uncle, looked them in the face, and I was like, oh, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.760 they want me, So that's where I'm gonna go. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.880 That's what's up, man, Cleveland State. 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:42.279 To say that ship about twenty years we're here, now, let's. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:46.640 Talk about it. Sixty nine, we had a lot of 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:47.440 ship going up. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:47.840 Man. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.000 Sorry, first year at Cleveland State. Did you you didn't 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:51.839 get the keys right away? 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:53.120 Did you have to the keys? 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:53.280 Man? 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:57.640 Listen, we gonna get to that average like five points 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.760 a game was on the line and I was back. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.080 I was the backup. And so the condition I had 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.279 never did conditioning because that no brow. We were so talented, 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.840 like we did conditioning, but like we was gonna win 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.080 because we had the most talent. I got to Cleveland 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.040 State individuals and stuff. You know, you got to hold 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.960 your own in college. Individual So that's the first time 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.400 I'm like, oh, I'm not good enough right now. So 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.840 my freshman year was all about getting acclimated. I started 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.200 lifting weights heavy, started running, taking wind sprints, serious, getting 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.920 my skills. I never practiced dribbling, bro. That was the 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.360 first time I started practicing dribbling and stuff like that. 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.600 And it was like I went from averaging five points 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.960 as a freshman to thirteen as a sophomore, which is 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:38.000 when they got. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.000 Yeah, that's because y'all bet shit. 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:45.800 I remember that y'all played against Syracuse Florida State. Yeah, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:46.920 y'all won't the only ones, bro. 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.400 Now we watched y'all beat Syracuse because y'all, I think 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.040 your other guard came from Syracuse. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.680 He came from U St. John's somewhere. John. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.960 Yeah, and I remember watching he caught a live or something. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.760 But we ain't take y'all serious. I know, we was. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.080 We had I was getting ready for the draft almost No. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.280 We had Arizona. So we had Arizona. Did you play Arizona? 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:07.760 Yeah? 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:09.400 So we was like, are we gonna play Arizona? That's 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.480 gonna be the Scouts. Jordan Hill I was like. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:12.480 Yeah, I'm gonna go top ten. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.080 Yeah, I'm gonna go top ten and damn like after that, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.000 we're gonna go to Indianapolis where I'm gonna be at 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.400 the crib. I'm gonna really put on the show against Louisville. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.480 So we we watched film on y'all, but not really 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.960 like we watched like thirty minutes and we was like, 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.480 he's too small, and then I'll never forget Our coach 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.560 was like, because. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.240 We went to the club the night before, we knew that, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.439 so we went. We was living, Bro, he's getting paid. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.439 We was living like we was rock star time baby. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.400 So he ended up they ended up showing us him. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.559 But they was like they point guard the Cedric kid. 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.160 He was like, bro, he can play. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:51.160 We like, yeah, who's that nigga? He transferred? I know 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.960 he can't, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man, 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.959 I ain't worried about him. They was like, they got 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.120 a football player whoever, y'all, big man. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.280 He was our best he was our real best player. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.320 Jonathan Bullock. Yeah, but he played football. Yeah, he got 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.200 a he after he finished he went to the Jets 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.199 and got on their practice squad right away and never 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:10.160 played since high school. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.720 Oh yeah, They was just like he a football player. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.480 He ain't even a basketball I never forget that. And 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.560 I know the game start. He had a bank three 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.200 and our coach called the time out. He said, We're 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.960 gonna fucking lose. Guys are playing around. I'm like, man, 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.480 we ain't about to lose to these sadass nigga. That 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.320 shiit just started getting spooky. I'm looking what the fuck? 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.599 Bro bro We wasn't even allowed to y'all went to 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.679 South Beach. Bro We stayed by the airport and they 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.720 let us ride down South Beach on the bus, then 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.240 let us get off. That was our tournament experience. Coach 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.040 was like, nah, we ain't here just to be here, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.280 He said, y'all want to go to South Beach. Bus 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.360 driver driving the South Beach, don't nobody get off. So 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.080 we just rolled down, got to look at it, and 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.240 went right back to our hotel. That was all our tournaments. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:51.080 Ship nigga. 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.640 I was walking on the beach, went to a club. 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.920 First time I ever seen a club like a club 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.600 like that. Niggas buying shots. I don't even drink at 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.199 that time, but we just vibing. We knew we was good, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.360 so I said part nigga. We got that game, we 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.920 started arguing. I'm like, we just started arguing. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.440 Super athletic though, Yeah, we. 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:11.959 Just started arguing. Our whole team was then I just 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:13.520 started running to the corner line. I'm done. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:16.720 They was trapping every time I came off bos screen. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.000 Two people here. I'm like, y'all, niggas gotta make a shot. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.439 Niggas was breaking them. Niggas was celebrating my bracket. 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:25.360 I'm going to the bragget. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.199 But the thing is the way we play against y'all. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.600 That's how we played against everybody. Like we trapped ball screens, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:34.560 like really aggressive. Like we didn't play super fast, but 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.400 like if it was a miss, you know, we pushed 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.480 the pace like coach was a defensive coach. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.760 Now, y'all, defense was a one I wouldn't I was. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.400 I had an attitude that game though, So I didn't 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.680 even play. My dad was calling me so many times 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.680 after they was like stopped calling me, Doug. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.840 He's like, you played like a whole. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:52.280 At eight point. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:53.679 I don't even know what I had. I'm like eight 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.400 noine point. It was ironic. Pat Rdy was at that game. 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:57.480 Damn. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.280 He ended up drafting me like he was at the game, 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.160 sitting a few rolls away from my parents, and my 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:03.920 uncle was like, you know Pat Rise at the game. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.760 I was like, nah, I didn't know that, but like, okay, 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.800 cool two years later and he talked about it when 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.200 I got judged, like, man, I saw you play as 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:12.920 a sophomore. You ain't even know, like we was looking 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.800 at other people obviously at the time, but like that 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.240 was the first time, like getting introduced to me. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.000 It's crazy, look at it. You have to get drafted, 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.040 all work out, always gonna give him. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.520 Mother fuck, it's crazy. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.960 That's a hell of a story though. It's really crazy, though, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:35.720 you know, So what's uh, James, So you know how 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.960 y'all was walking in the back, how he was warming up, 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.839 y'all was kind of walking through our line, and Big 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.440 j Nathan was like, if these cats walked through our 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.520 line one more time, bro, I'm gonna get active. And 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.679 I'm like, now looking back, I said, I'm glad. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.240 Like I was like, because at the time, you know, 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:56.760 we win it. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.360 Big Dog don't get Big Dog like, can't nobody whip him. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.040 So he's like, bro, they walked through the line one 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.599 more time, but I don't care which one of them is, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.160 I'm about to get active and we're like whatever, and 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.840 then like now, I'm like, I'm so glad that. 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.040 In a bowling box one place after one puce after 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.760 live that. 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:25.560 I just got. You know, you're a homie now, so 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.240 he's so cool. He talked about that, and I'm like, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:28.880 I never told him. Now, I was like, bro, when 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:30.880 I was walking through our line, it was really about 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:32.319 to be something I'm like and it would have got 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.520 so ugly so fast, man, because he know he's the 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.200 truth with it though, you know, because you were. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:37.920 But he don't. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:38.880 Man. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:40.439 That was. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:44.480 They shout out to jaj Bro. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.000 I see him do out here. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.720 Yep, he did come for the ain't gonna be no 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.320 more running into the locker room. They signed him right 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:54.640 after that. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:57.040 That game. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:04.280 Again, Go get that game, man, leave him alone, keep it. 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.680 What was your most memorable tournament game? 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.200 That one? 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.440 That one you got off the most on that one? 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.120 I mean I had seventeen against Arizonable, we lost. I 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:15.959 only count win, so. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.360 Okay, okay, but what's fucked up is though about that 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.280 y'all beating us. I never forget so Rick Patino, I 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.120 had beef for him because he didn't recruit me, but 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.000 he you know, he wanted to recruit my little brother 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.520 in mine. He want dad played for him, so I 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.319 had beef for him. So I wanted to play Louisville 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.000 so bad. And that day of the game, he said, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.800 I got to watch that twelve five matchup Cleveland State 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:39.880 and Wake for est. I got Cleveland State beating him. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.360 I was like, bitch, we're gonna beat you out. What 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.800 this nigga talking about? Like he about to nigga, you're 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.679 a coach for a team that's in a tournament. You're 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.760 telling niggas who's gonna win and ship talk to him. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.320 I was like, man, that's why I'd be so hyped 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:53.360 when they lose every time. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.840 The Big East, though, he watched us play against South 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.280 Florida's in the Biggest when we be serious, was they 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.000 was in the East, so like he had like been 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:03.839 watching all year. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:05.960 Yeah, I felt the way though the. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.480 Waters we used to coach workers. My coach can't Cleveland State. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.000 He was a ruggers, so he came from the Big EI, 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.199 so he had that relationship. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.199 Yeah, and he said that ship and that ship happened. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.200 I ain't gonna I wasn't mad because I know I 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:17.560 was about to go to the NBA, but I was 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.080 sick that, like, I didn't get to play Louisville. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.600 That's my biggest thing, I. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.160 Know, because they smasters on it like they did them. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.200 He would have tried to get fifth. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.280 I would have tried to. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.720 We hired out our beef iver, but I was gonna 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:38.640 get fifty on them. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:39.640 That's what I did. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.680 I would have went to Louisville. I wish I could 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.400 hell and I wouldn't know. I wasn't about to be 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.080 pressing like that. I'm glad I went where I went 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.160 because the defense was not a priority. So I gotta 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:52.800 ask you this first, the who the ones you gotta 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.120 play first? Edgar or the Sean Jackson? The Sean Jackson. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.000 That's joke jokes. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.680 That's for the internet, jokes, bro. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:06.320 What he says for content that jokes. Worry about jokes. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.760 Guard play was tough back then. Least you had to 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:10.640 really strap. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.800 Up, Like who was Arizona guard? 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:16.680 They had Nick Wise get busy. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.360 Yeah, his number circle too. I should have circled just ship. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:22.680 That was. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.920 Can't be in front of They be shelling them too. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:34.400 They be shelling them to Wash. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.360 I was they had a good team that the Horizon 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.520 League so killed at that time. Obvious. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:39.440 You know what I'm saying, you hold it down. He 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.760 talked about the hold on. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:47.400 Did you play against Justine Sir? Show you didn't? Okay, 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.400 he was too young. I thought you played for uh, 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:56.080 damn some school in Chicago or the lawyer Loyola. He 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:57.200 played for Loyal I know. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:58.760 I'm being honest. I didn't know. None of the player's 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.120 name is in our conference. So we played them. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.520 Yeah, okay, we can move on. But he was one 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.160 of just Sir was one of them. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:07.600 I remember his same year. 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:10.240 I remember because they beat us, so obviously I just 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.200 kind of kept up with Ship and I remember his 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.520 senior year. Nigga, he was getting forty and Ship. I'm like, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.280 then got a box. Oh this nigga that turned out that's. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.280 Forty. I'm like, yeah, he's wow. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.920 Did you average one twenty two or some shit like that? 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:25.640 How was that six and six? 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:26.040 Bro? 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.280 My senior year like magic, I'm gonna be honest, because 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.240 I was having an out of body experience, like I 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.920 couldn't even explain what was going Damn. You know how 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.520 coaches say work hard, work hard, and eventually to payoff. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.800 Casts be like when it is gonna pay off, Like 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.560 my senior year was just my three years before that 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.000 paying off. Damn all the working out three times a day. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.480 You know. I used to kill myself in the workout. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.480 But my teammates thought I was like weird, like right way, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.240 because I would work out before practice, after practice, then 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.640 come back midnight. Like I don't even know how I 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.760 did homework to stay eligible, bro, because I was working 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.640 at all day long. Because I went to the Darren 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.600 Williams camp after my junior year and they say ninety 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.400 percent of people that go to that camp go NBA. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:06.760 So I said, oh, I got it. They think I'm 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.240 an NBA dude. I locked in every since then, like, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.119 oh that's her, that's fine. That's what my senior year was. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.760 Just like he was going crazy, bro. 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.760 And I saw blood like I saw he was going crazy. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:21.040 That's crazy. That's crazy that Nigga put on that year. 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.280 I was watching because we thought about in Atlanta, they 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:25.919 had you going to I to just go in the 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.040 draft room and ship look like see if they were 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:32.960 trying to replace me, I really yours. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.480 I worked out in Atlanta though, like for the draft, 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.639 that's where I was like my boot camp bat down there. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.640 I was down here. I was working out with Tony 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.520 and I heard of it. It was in. It was 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.320 in like a little if I do it right here. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.400 He had a house that's where I worked out at. Okay, 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:52.760 every day, twice a day. I was in there and 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.360 it was like hot in there too. Bro. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:55.840 They signed Brian Bro. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:03.639 The signed they How was your drying process, though, Bro? Like, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.000 how many teams did you work out for? 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.280 I did eleven workouts, so I knew my range was 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:14.760 like after lottery like fourteen to like early second round. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.320 I knew like I was gonna go like I knew 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.960 I wasn't gonna go below Miami. Okay, So I worked 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.760 out for eleven teams. My agent wanted me to do 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:24.959 like two more, and I was like, nah, I'm not 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.280 doing too more. When I was tired, I was like 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.800 after my eleventh one, I was like, I said, if 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:31.760 they don't think I'm good enough by now, I'm just 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.359 because I was exhausted because my senior year, I was 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.440 exhausted because coach wore me. I played every minute of 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.080 every practice, every minute of every game. So I was 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:42.880 like wore out and I didn't get a chance to rest. 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.000 Like after the season was over. I went to school 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.080 for like maybe one more month, and I left school early, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.399 like I talked to the professors. I was able to 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.680 take some of my finals early, and then I started 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:53.320 getting ready. 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:54.119 Damn. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.399 So I did eleven workouts and I was done. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.080 Any of them. Teams ever be like we're taking you noors. 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.840 No, because I know what. I wasn't hands on like 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:04.639 that because I ain't care. I'm coming from Cleveland State, 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:06.720 so I ain't had no ego. I was just like this, 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.719 whoever you put in front of me in these workouts, 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.960 I'm dog walking on. That was wod you killed? 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:14.000 That's kind of guy? 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:20.680 Who you killed? I asked some who I have just. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.040 Talking about your competitive workout? 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:24.760 I don't I don't know everybody's name because I'm at 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.480 Cleveland State. I an't play, so I ain't really know. 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:32.240 You know, now you know, Remember it was a basic. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:36.600 I worked out against the guard from u C. 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:36.840 L A. 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.800 I think his name Malcolm Lee or something cool in 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.920 the league. For I know, I worked out what's the 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.240 guy from Kansas shell Uh, Josh Shelby. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:46.800 I worked. 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:53.440 There mcamee from that was my guy What's the Good 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:54.160 from Michigan State? 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.880 That was all American Michigan State Lucasas. Yeah, you cook them. 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:00.840 You have some as workouts. 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.040 I worked out with a lot of people, Yeah, some hoopers. 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.159 A couple of my workouts I was with guys that 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.080 was like that. Like I worked out with what's uh 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:10.520 Changler Parsons. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.640 I worked out at Miami with him. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.240 We was on the same team. And be honest, we 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:17.600 played that day. We didn't do one on ones. We 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:19.000 did like three on threes and four and four. 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:20.399 Uh. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.880 Who was I think the Klay Thompson workout Charlotte. 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:27.760 Yeah, I ain't gonna say you cooked him. I'm just 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:28.280 gonna keep it. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:34.160 I wouldn't say like that. It was one other cat. 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.359 I can't remember. Uh it was in Okay. See, I 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.960 can't remember who it was. But I cooked that whole workout. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.600 Uh he went to Villanova. What's the dude him? 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:44.120 Yeah? 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:45.439 Ye he cooked ye. 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:51.160 So yeah, I'm gonna be honest though, all my. 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.879 Workouts I cooked. Just about I killed my workouts. I 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:57.760 believe it because I didn't. I didn't play like in 0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:58.080 the A C. 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.560 C term the Big East turn a surprise. 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.200 That's how I know you cooked because it get picked 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.160 first round, Like, yeah, you gotta go on the workout 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:08.560 and improved someone like thin. 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.760 It went crazy, especially from Cleveland State for. 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.040 Sure, and obviously know where you go end up in Miami. 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:15.680 You know he's gonna be apart. You know what I'm sing, 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:16.880 It's crazy. You know what I'm saying. You talk about 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.200 every point of your life. Senior year to get to college. 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:20.560 You know what I'm saying. D one, you went crazy, 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.480 win the chip, then you went courage and the tournament 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.760 went crazy last year. Now you get your league and 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.720 then you walk into one of the craziest situations in basketball. 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.280 That was I ain't gonna lie. I was excited because 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.760 I always won, Like my high school we won, we 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.040 won in college in the Horizon League. So I wanted 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:38.760 to go somewhere where we can win. But I also 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.760 wanted to be a part of the winning. So when 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.439 I got drafted there, I'm like, I was happy, And 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.080 then like after the first day, I was like, all right, 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:48.199 I gotta get ready because they don't necessarily need me. 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.359 They went to the finals last year. Whatever me Like, 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.120 I gotta make my imprints so I can get on 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.840 the court. That's the first thing I started thinking about, Like, Okay, 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:57.840 I gotta get ready because if I don't do right, 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.800 I sent the bench the whole year. I didn't want 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:02.000 to go to the G League. You know, I want 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.600 to do what's called the the d lea. Back then, 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.040 I was like, I ain't never want to get regulated, 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.080 no offense to catch the dude. But like, I ain't 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.000 want to do that. Already did my four years of school. 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:13.080 I didn't want to do no more developing. I wanted 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:16.159 to develop on the big team. So first day I 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.040 was excited. Next day I was like, all right, it's 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.720 time to get to work so I can earn their respect. 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:22.480 How was that first practice? 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.480 You know, we had to lockout, oh ship, right, bro. 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:28.600 I worked out with Brin a couple of times because 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.399 he's from Ohio crib And it's funny. I worked out 0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.960 in some Adidas. Bro. I walked in that man's house 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:36.960 in some some d Ros Adidas, and hey looked at 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.000 me crazy. That's how I got my Nike deal. 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:40.120 Okay, that's all. 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.720 It was like one of his home. It was like, 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.879 why you wearing Adidas? I said, because they gonna pay me. 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.919 They giving me the contract. He said, Bro, what they 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.680 paying you? And I looked at him. He said, no, seriously, 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.440 what they paying you? Whatever? They paying you, the guy's 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.320 gonna call you tomorrow, and I'm like whatever. We finished 0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.240 the workout and a guy from Nike called me the 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:02.240 next day and said, he, uh, what do you want 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:03.920 for us to switch you over to? And I told 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.680 him I should have uped it up. So I just 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:08.919 sent them the straight contract that gave me and I 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:10.640 switched to Nike that the next day. 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:16.160 So I said. 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:21.679 That story, that's a fire story. 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.879 That's that's when I realized casts got real influence out here. 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.240 Like the next day, Cat from Nike said, hey, Norris, Yeah, 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:29.959 so what's your He didn't even say how you doing nothing? 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:30.200 Yeah? 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:33.240 Nor yeah, So what's the what's your contract with the 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:34.840 What do we need to do to sign you over? 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:36.639 Like send us your numbers so we can get that 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:38.520 team care of. I was like, cool, check your phone, 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.000 I'm gonna text you my contract. Just just give me this, 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.679 and that's what they did. But we ain't have practice 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.600 until December because our first game was Christmas. So we 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.520 had training camp two weeks in December and then we like, 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:52.879 so I didn't get to play summer League. I didn't 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:56.119 get to like have those pre workouts before, you know, 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.000 how you work out, come in before practice the young 0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.159 dudes do before the first I didn't get to do 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:01.520 none of that. So it's like my first day of 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.800 practice was my first day of practice. 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.640 Okay, when you cracked the like lineup, like you get 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:07.920 a chance to get in the games. 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:12.080 I knew I was gonna get in, like I knew 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:13.359 I was gonna get in, just because how I was 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:15.840 doing in practice in preseason. And they don't lie to 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.840 you in Miami like they they don't. They don't like 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.800 feed you like fools, go you know how something, Oh, 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.080 good job, fel you're gonna do that, and then you'd 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.240 be like, dang, I ain't play a minute. I knew 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:29.960 I was like preseason games, I was like playing and 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.720 coaching let me make some mistakes. And then in practice 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.960 I was holding my own in practice, so I was like, Okay, 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.040 he gonna play me. And then he told me, like, 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.040 you know, be ready, So that's all I need to hear. 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:41.560 He don't gotta tell me you're gonna play this mean 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.560 minutes because they say, I'm just happy to be there. 0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:45.840 He just like, stay ready on a fella. And as 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:50.000 soon it was time that first substitution, I'm like, oh, 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.520 he's serious. Code going against Dallas on TNT because they 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.840 want a championship. They beat us and get me a game. 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:57.960 I was like, all right, let's do it. 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.320 That Who is that matchup? When you first got in. 0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:07.159 That's why they drafted me though the small garden, So 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.280 it was JJ Breal Jet had went to the Celtics, 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:11.440 real Jet. 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:17.800 I'm the real Jet Jason, since we're talking about the 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.680 real jat he we ain't talking about either, no kidding. 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:28.679 Terry were setting up that lobe the craziest Lebron. 0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.520 We didn't think it was going to be that crazy 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:35.040 like because we had many like libs. But somehow it's 0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:36.000 like that lived forever. 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.200 What bro that play is crazy part of history. 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.280 But at the time it happened, we didn't think that. 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:42.960 That nigga got killed a lot because of you. 0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.960 You didn't see who, you didn't see Jet. 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:52.200 It didn't matter. I knew who was trailing. I was like, 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.800 can I can take the lay up or I can automatic? 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:58.600 That's why you was perfect from Miami because I would 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:03.320 have shot the lay up, they would have been hit. 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:06.800 Was the ultimate teammate facts. 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.879 I can't say bro I didn't fight the system at 0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.520 all at first. When I first got there, I was 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.399 shooting a lot. I was playing like hot Tod that 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.359 Cleveland State, and they didn't. They didn't reel me in 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.120 real quick. They let me do it. Cause my first 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.479 home game I had like twenty fourteen or fourth, I'm 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.280 realing it. So they waited till I had an off game. 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:25.920 As soon as I had an off game, they rilled 0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.840 it in real quickpo was like, hey man, that wonder 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.040 will pull up with thirteen on the clock, fourteen on 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.400 the shot clock. That ain't what we want. That's Chris 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.920 Boss sitting that screen picking up Poppet. That's Ray Allen 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.960 standing over there. You know who Reyaliten is. I'm like, yeah, 0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.360 that's the all time three point yeah. And that's that's 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:44.719 the way or the way Lebron one one was in. 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.560 It's like that's a that's Dwayne Wade, that's the franchise 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.800 leader in points over there. You came off and shut 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.720 to pull up three while they're watching you play that. 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.199 That ain't how we want to play, and I was 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.800 just like, but Coach, I can make it. He was like, 0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.200 and he looked at me, and I said, never mind. 0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.239 I said you right, So I said you're right. So 0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:02.960 early in the o'clock, I'm coming off. Run into the 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.440 throw it, run into the corner because I want to play, 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.159 because they'll put you on that bench and bear you, 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:08.879 because it ain't nothing for them to be like, all right, 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.199 we're going with the big line up. Bron at the one, 0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.640 d at the three, shame Ba at the four, Chris. 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.439 So if I didn't do right, that's what would have happened. 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.119 I didn't want that to happen. So I'm like, you 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:18.879 know what, cool, You ain't gonta say nothing else. I'm 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.280 gonna come off. That's why y'all used to know that. 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:22.000 Guards used to know. 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:23.120 I couldn't go back at him. 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.919 That's why I wanted Remember when I said that about Mario, 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.080 it wasn't no disrespect. 0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.800 It wasn't we're gonna get to that too. 0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.080 But I was a little different than him though, because 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.160 I was more aggressive than him, Like I was feistier 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.119 he was. Yeah, I used to really like this. I 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:38.840 wouldn't guarden. 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:40.879 That was gonna guard him because I mean he could shoot. 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:41.439 I know Mario. 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:46.080 I know because before like Bron got there, nigga, Mario 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.040 used to get to it. Yeah you know, but when 0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:51.200 Bron got there, it was like different, and this is. 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.800 How you have to run to the corner. Bro. It 0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.400 ain't no I'm gonna try my getting Bro. He would 0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.240 make he started doing stuff like this by the nails. 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:04.200 Next thing, you know, go sit down, sit down. 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:05.480 I knew that. 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.080 See this is why I'll be saying like, I feel 0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.520 like y'all just catch and I don't know if you 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.000 watch short, I feel like y'all just catch clips because Bro, 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.680 don't meet no malice behind the ship. It's just how 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.399 it should be clipped up. Because he was just saying, 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:22.000 ship if we in mother fucking Miami, I'm straight I 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.879 can go out because I know what Mario Finn do 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.880 the whole game, So I can go out to. 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.639 The by the set of screen or he going to 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.000 the court. Yeah, it wasn't never like it was sad. 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:33.800 He never said anything like I know, y'all not sad. 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.280 I know because I know when people sit out, when 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.040 Brian d wait it out, they go for thirty for. 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.080 Sure, second that was different than our starter unit. So 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.400 that start unit, like you said, it was real, like, yeah, 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.160 let Brian and d Wade do a lot of that. 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.800 In the second unit. I can handle the ball sometimes 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.840 at least to initiate it. Eventually, I was gonna have 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.360 to get off of at least I can initiate and 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:54.560 we play a little faster. 0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:56.640 And y'all, y'all, y'all move it, especially when you had 0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:00.160 d Wade. Y'all really moved it. Brian bron moved it, 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.320 but he did more like yeah, come here, Yeah, the 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:06.160 little guy comes up the screen, get the switch or whatever. 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.600 But I used to feel bad though sometimes for me, 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.520 because I knew he could, you know, he could score 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.920 a little bit. But like like you said, like you're 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.200 talking about two of the best perimeter players and the 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.760 n CB was one of the top scores. You gotta 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:18.360 get on the rock. 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:19.479 It was just a man out. 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.840 I just pecking order, bro, and it's legit. 0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:25.440 Yeah, none of the. 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.360 Bigg It was all three first about. 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.560 Yeah, off the best because. 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.680 Right off the minch and actually he was nice, bro. 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.600 It was just like, I know, you can't shoot that shot, 0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.280 like you about to go off this picking roll. I'm 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.720 going under because you wont to shoot it, but I 0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:42.480 know you can't. 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.200 Yeah, and I know you can make it, but you 0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:46.000 can't shoot. 0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.200 It because if you make her miss hitting, you canna 0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:50.880 come out. You have you better make it. You make 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.760 it even if you make you somebody come out. 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.400 No past with fifteen on the shot clock, pick and 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.160 roll three, you shoul don't make it. 0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.960 Spoke and I spoke. 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.720 Starting line up is bron and D and c By 0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:04.360 think they have to run back on. 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.479 I knew that because I used to do that with 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:13.040 Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Jamal. If I shoot the 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:16.880 ball and I don't make it, you're coming out. 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:18.960 That's why I we wanting him to speak more because 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.200 niggas don't even understand the life. He really had to 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:25.640 leave out before. Chalmers like had to live that life already. 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:30.640 He walked into the league in that I been watching. 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:35.800 Tough but that's when I started playing. But before I 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.479 got there, we had Woodson. It was Io so like 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:43.479 I so old Joe. We had Jamal, who that's. 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.760 God, Josh need that motherfucker. 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.400 Josh needed, Horford wanted, Marvin wanted. 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.960 Then we had other veterans I was just man, I 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.840 was just happy, Well we're going out tonight, And what's 0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:58.120 so crazy both of your background because they were yeah 0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:00.080 near my respect. 0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:01.720 Though, like can open runs and in the summertime like 0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.400 like in the pro whims and stuff. So like when 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.840 people come to Miami. That's how like everybody knew, like, nah, 0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.440 he can hoop. He just playing his role. I never 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.760 wanted to be known as like, ain't nobody in the 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.239 league watched, But you don't never want to be known 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.720 as one of them dudes. It's like self check, ain't 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:18.240 no self check. I'm playing my role. 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.840 But that's and see this goes to my but he 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.240 used to kill though, but norriskho That's why I think people, 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:26.920 like I said, when people watch our ship, they think 0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.680 we di and know we understand it because this is 0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.280 my nigga. I know where he had in. We used 0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:33.720 to be mad at him for not going to get 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.240 thirty as your man's probably said, don't kill for sure, 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.160 you know what I mean, because we're not realizing the game. 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.320 But that's why I was like, ship, maybe a nigga 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.240 probably would take a hundred million over. 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:47.200 Over the rings. 0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:46.680 Easy for me. 0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:49.680 Hundred elms. 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.200 Niggas mad because it wasn't no slight to norse that' said. 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.360 But niggas don't talk about enough. 0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.080 That extreme is extreme. But I take, like, you know, 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.120 forty or fifty with my rings and not one hundred 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.240 with the rings. Didn't take a hundred with no rings though, 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.480 that's a tough extreme, though, one hundred or no, because 0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:08.719 a hundred is crazy, you know what I mean? 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:09.960 It is unred is different. 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.960 But I take the middle of the pack with the rings. 0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.840 Yeah, I feel that. I mean, you can still have 0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:17.000 the same life. 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.440 It's a lot like well we in the Midwest. That's 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.760 why we back here in the middleway, our bucks stretch 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:22.240 farther up. 0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:23.480 Yeah, you got the same life. 0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.880 But to be known as a champion, bro, it's like 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.560 even if you win the best player, Like I was 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.720 a role player, but I played though, so anywhere that 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.080 time I go somewhere, it's like I get in rooms 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.520 that normally I wouldn't like other NBA players wouldn't be 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.560 able to get into just off a GP, like no, 0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:39.840 that's cold. He played for the championship team that he 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:41.960 he good in here like yes, and I've seen that 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.000 happen in real life. I was going to a real 0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.280 like VIP spot where it was like only fifty people 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.240 in there and I ain't had no invite. I just 0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.280 happened to know it be dripping seeing it and I 0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:51.920 was like, oh let me. It was like, oh, co 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.360 come on. And then the boss men, I was like, 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.880 oh yeah, no, Champion, he good and I'm like, Dan, 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:58.800 that's what it is. That's all it was. 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.880 And we always talking about relationships being worth more than money, 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.360 so we funk with that for sure. We was just 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.719 that was the nature of the topic. My nigga one 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.080 hundred ms yeah, or do you want this more fucking ring? 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.239 And we found out that niggas was selling them more 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.360 fucking rings. The chick on tim streets selling that mother 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:16.920 fucking thing. 0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.040 You heard me something not because we ultimately played to 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.280 take care of your family, yes. 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.720 Bro, and that's all we say. It wasn't no hate, 0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:26.120 you know what I mean? 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.720 Because I said Mario give up his ring for a 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.800 hunter Man for a Max deal. That's what I said. 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.360 I said, you give I was back then, it was 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:36.239 not like the are now. 0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.320 Even back then talking about right now with the players 0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:42.720 was getting We never niggas saying. 0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:54.160 I got this nigga up in this chair. Nigga, that's 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.720 all I even I get my ring up for a million? 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:05.200 Yeah right now, because you still know as a champion. 0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.880 That's all I would say exactly, like I don't need 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.400 the actual ring. But if they said you can't. 0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.040 Win around, are you talking about the actual ring ring? 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:13.279 Not that? 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.640 But I'm just saying the champion I want. 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.560 It's not being a champion, like would you be a 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:19.799 champion for less money or would you like not want 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:20.360 to be a champion. 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:21.200 I don't want you. 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.080 I don't want to give a champion a champion. I 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.280 don't give you want to respect because you're still getting 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.120 to it. Yeah, I'm still respect, bro, and you a killer, 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:34.440 but I'm saying you knocked it down fifty percent. Niggas 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.520 talk about the Hunter. What you're doing for that Hunter? 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:47.239 As I said, yeah we did. 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.000 That was so appropriate that say, would you take fifty 0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.520 million your rings or James Harden, I'm taking fifty in 0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.640 my rings ship James two rings and fifty what James 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.120 hard touch power hundred? 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:03.520 Yeah I got you. 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:07.680 I remember though, for me and my what I value, Yeah, 0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.680 fifty minute, I can get anything I want. I mean, 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:11.640 how many mentions can you get. 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.000 And you come from humble beginners like us, and. 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:15.879 You know, a million West. You know in the mid West, 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.879 a million dollar crib up here, in a million dollar 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.440 crib in Miami or l A is two different lifestyles. 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.800 No, for sure, I'm saying your life is gonna be normal. 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.640 But for me, three hundred million, what you want to do? 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:28.839 Like you can't spend it all? 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.040 Ship You're just saying my kids, kids, my mama, other kids. 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.600 You get that you want Nigga was careful. 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:42.239 It's not that, but careful Now that's I mean, I 0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.520 am shout out to that. But I'm taking the fifty. 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:46.520 I know what fifty can do because I'm still gonna 0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.640 live where we outlive at. You're gonna be You're gonna 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:49.080 live good. 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:53.680 But four hundred dogs you can figure something different. One hundred. 0:35:55.080 --> 0:36:04.279 Live where I live somewhere worst Still, that's crazy. Like 0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.960 you your first year in the league, got a ring? 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.960 How was that feeling? Rookie ye out the NBA lockout year? 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:11.719 Crazy shit? 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:13.360 And you get a championship. 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.800 It's gonna sound bad, I mean as humbly as possible, 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.680 but I thought that's how it's supposed to be. That's 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:20.920 what I thought how it was supposed to be. In 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.359 high school, That's how it was. We won the state 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.279 I went to Cleveland State. We won two conference championships. 0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.480 So I'm like, this is what you're supposed to do, 0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:31.600 you win chips. I ain't realize until the first year 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:33.719 we didn't win it. I was like, oh. And then 0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.239 the next year when I got traded, like my fourth 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:39.120 year whatever, I got traded and played in New Orleans. 0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.080 We lost the first round. I was like, oh, this 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.320 NBA life is different. Then when I didn't make the playoffs, 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.400 suicide watch like, like, what is going on? 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:47.759 Like? 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.040 So I thought it was normal, honestly, bro, I was like, 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:51.239 this is what it's supposed to be. 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.200 What was it like when you finally like when you 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:54.200 got traded. 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:56.880 Was a little I didn't know how to feel. I 0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.560 was like a fish out of water because the team 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:02.480 didn't call me and tell me. I found out on 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:06.759 the ticker. D then found out on the ticker, and 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.280 then my agent. My agent didn't call intil it was official, 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.040 because when on the ticker, it don't be official. It 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.879 just be the paperwork winning, but you know behind the scenes. 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:15.719 So but once it became final. My agent called me 0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.960 and I was like, I'm going to New Orleans. I'm like, 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.000 I'm going to Miami. To New Orleans, that's a whole different. 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:27.840 Like yeah, and guess who. The first game was against Miami. 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:29.560 I didn't even move out of my apartment. I stayed 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.160 in my apartment. New Orleans flew in, I met the 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.200 team at the hotel, went back to my apartment, and 0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.920 didn't played Miami the next day, damn. And we won too. 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:40.360 But I was salty a little bit though, because I 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:41.960 thought I was gonna play my whole career. That's when 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.200 I learned the business of the NBA, because I thought 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:45.600 I was gonna play my whole career in Miami. 0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:47.040 You got busy though. 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:47.360 Let me. 0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:49.319 I like going there because I was able to show 0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:49.719 what I could do. 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.000 Yeah, they let you rock. 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:52.680 Yeah. 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:54.799 It was a cool city though. 0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.239 I like coming from Miami, though, I mean, nothing cool 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:03.480 come from you go to Miami. You had a decent team, though. 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.960 I'm saying it was nicey Miami. You gotta damn there, 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.320 go to New York to even like experience. 0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:14.280 Like, I mean, you can go to like Houston or Atlanta. 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.719 Houston, Atlanta, but like Miami is just like when you 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.440 touch down, I ain't gonna lie every time we touch 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:20.200 down Miami, like. 0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:24.359 I got happy ship, Like I'm about to go Prome 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:25.000 on twelve. 0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.200 We about to play the heat Tom all the gym 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.480 gonna be hot, like it ain't gonna be You know, 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.719 you no offense to Philly fans, but when you go 0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.200 to Philly in it during the season, it'd be freezing 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.479 when you go to shoot around. You got the world 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.399 hoodies and all this ship. I used to hate playing 0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.560 there New York. You go, if y'all go practice at 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.240 the garden, it's gonna be freezing. 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.319 W just be wow, be honest. You know how people 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:49.880 be excited about to play in the garden. 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.840 I ain't get that adreoling So I don't think you. 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:55.080 Was it remodeled when you first got in the league. 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:56.959 I can't. 0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:57.520 I don't know. 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.719 When I first got it wouldn't remin bottle yet. So 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:02.960 we had the old dressing rooms. 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:03.080 Bro. 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.120 Then you have to put all your clothes up because 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.440 they like the roaches and rats getting your ship. 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.840 You gotta keep them up high. I was like, yeah, lying. 0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.520 Seen the rats though underneath when we walked to them. 0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.200 They like, bro, keep your clothes up there. You can't 0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.720 even like lamb. I'm like, damn, we went. 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.440 To a this is crazy and don't put no smoot 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.000 on my name, but went to the Bad Boys Reunion tour. 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:28.399 The Guard. 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:38.040 You tell me that weekend it's Philip Collins fault because 0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:40.880 with for his birthday and he loved He not like that. 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.759 But I did wait for my niggid birthday party the time. 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:46.680 That's my best friend, and I ain't because I knew 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.440 so them rats in that guarden is it's real, bro, I. 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:53.920 Felt you know how people feel about the Guards. I 0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:57.240 felt like playing like that in Chicago play there. Anytime 0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.120 I played Chicago ball like that was like my are 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.759 playing there looking up there seeing two three. They had 0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:04.520 to hollow the light. How the light used to hit it. 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.560 I used to be like the goat up there, like 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.640 let's get to it. That's how I felt every time 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:09.799 that studio goat. 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.680 Damn, I ain't like playing in Chicago. What's your favorite 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:14.640 place by Utah? 0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:16.120 Really? 0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:16.719 Yeah? 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:18.680 I mean, I'm not even being funny. I had I 0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:22.080 had great. I've never not played good in Utah. The court, 0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.399 you know how the backdrop is so close. The fans 0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:25.799 is right there. It's like shooting in the high school 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.000 gym here, Indiana. Like when you shoot Indiana, know that 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:30.360 the fans right behind the go. 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:33.800 I used to like here because like I knew the 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.959 whole I used to be deep. Yea, I need fifty 0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.560 tickets this game because Dayton is like ninety minutes away. 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.000 Yeah, but I just talking about the backdrop. I know 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.360 I was gonna have good games, like Philly. Hated playing Philly. 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.600 The backdrop was so crazy. I'm like, I hate playing here. 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.800 Damn Boston. I had some good games and ball. I 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:53.840 like the crowd was great in Boston, So I like 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:54.560 playing in Boston. 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.560 You remember your best moment in the NBA from straight 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.760 from a hooping's perspective, selfish, like where he was getting 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:03.440 tour in Cleveland. 0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.680 Uh, the weekend I got my my jersey retired at 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.360 Cleveland State. We played. I was in New Orleans. We 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:13.280 played at Cleveland. Okay, and like my parents and stuff, 0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.600 Cleveland State, the whole school came to my game afternoon. 0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:18.440 They had raised my jersey and the raptors I had 0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:19.719 like twenty six and eight on them. 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.080 Okay, that's hard, bro, that's the hell of a moment, right, 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:25.160 that's far that was. 0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.480 That was my favorite. That was probably like my favorite moment. 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:32.640 Okay, getting your jersey retired in school, that's hard, like 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:33.600 that was. 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:35.200 That was the best. The only thing that was better 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.920 was going into a hall of fame at the school. Damn, 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.000 because I didn't realize that's different. Hall of fame is 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:44.240 like different than like just getting your jersey retire. 0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.120 Yeah, I wouldn't know. Don't with me. 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.880 I think, wait for you gotta have degree. Yeah, I 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.440 think every school is like that. So I think Steph, 0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:55.960 they haven't retired put him in the Hall of Fame 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:57.560 at Davidson yet, and that's crazy to me. 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.600 I'm like, you know, there should be exception ship should 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:01.480 be that should be excepted. 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:08.279 Come on, bro, game, I've seen people rocking zero way 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.000 for it so bad I just stopped looking. I'll never 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.120 forget they slewnging that jersey. I'll never forget the first 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.800 I made. I was All American by sophomore year, so 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:18.960 they like, you all American? How you do is graduate, 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.719 We're gonna retire your jersey. He's like, we don't have 0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:22.640 many all Americans. 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:23.920 I'm like, damn for real. 0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:27.439 The next year that maybe two years dude named Cody 0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:34.600 McIntyre rocking that mother Cody Visious was not hooping it 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.240 that bitch. I'm like real zero, at least get some buckets. 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.319 He actually a good player now though I'll see I'm 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.120 watching games overseas. He actually be to see mac man. 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:49.920 He could have went online had somebody. Don't you have 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:54.719 somebody you know I'm in a transfer port. 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.120 I'm in a transporport right now. I'm trying. 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:05.520 I'm trying to somebody. You got money, I try to 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:09.680 go to University of Phoenix. I'm going to transfer everything. 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:10.800 I ain't going to I c d C. 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.160 You with the I c d C. 0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.480 Give me my honorary to get to agreed quick. 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.040 Man, I'm for the I P I what do yourself? 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:25.840 I wanted to ask you though, hold on before we 0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.960 keep going though, when you want to come on, that's 0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:33.239 your get back respect when in that first because he 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:35.320 had like we got a power with this nigga. He 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.880 has the worst championship experience ever. Okay, can you just 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:40.320 speak for what you can't speak on? 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:40.680 Like? 0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.440 How was that? Like that? 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:49.239 Like I heard so that's old? Ours was live. First 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.800 of all, we won on the first one on Sunday, 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:55.279 we all know on Suturday, and then the next one 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:58.200 we went on a Thursday, which is story Thursdays. So 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.920 it was it was like didn't sleep until the sun 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:03.360 was coming up. I didn't get back home to like 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.600 seven am, like it was his experience. And we parted 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.759 for like after a week, you don't want to party 0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.279 no more. We parted for like a week, and then 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.160 we had the parade, and then after that, nobody want 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:15.360 to party. We want to go on vacation. 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.200 Wait a minute, you had a parade a week after 0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.360 between the parade was the next day, wasn't. 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:23.239 No, it was like three days. 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.680 Yeah, well, you know, no offense. You know, Milwaukee is 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:30.800 different than Miami. Rally do things top not and you 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.239 know they call it heat Nation, which people don't know. 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.400 Heat Nation is built up of like little communities like 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:41.880 Little Haiti, Little Havana, Miami Gardens, Liberty City. So we 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:46.279 drove around the whole wasty like, we went around the 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:50.840 whole grounds. So like we started at one place, we 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.200 went through every little high leada, we went through every 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.080 little hood and then it circled all the way back 0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:56.800 to the steps. 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:57.040 You know. 0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:01.000 Yeah, it was tough. That was tough. 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:02.960 I asked you this question. Obviously he was around you 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:04.880 saying everything for it. How was that feeling when you've 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:06.520 seen ray Allen? You know what I'm saying, step back 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:07.319 and knocked that bitch down. 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.520 You see how that nigga was about. 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:13.120 Play? 0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:15.239 That was. 0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.040 If you ain't supporting me, like how I was more 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:26.040 than came. Oh god, bro, I said that nigga is 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.920 heard right, Ladies ain't supporting. 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:33.680 Listen, if y'all teammates, If y'all ain't supporting y'all teammates, 0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:37.320 and y'all people like that, they're not real. I was 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.480 genuinely happy, like yo, because we know it looked like 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:42.759 we was gonna lose. We never said that. We never 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:43.440 said dangs. 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:43.560 Oh. 0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.160 We was just like just taking one play at the time, 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.279 that's all we said. So when he hit that shot, 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.200 I was like, oh, we're about to win. That's the 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.920 biggest shot in NBA history up until that point. I 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.279 was like, yeah, and is he practiced that though? He 0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.839 practiced backpell and shooting, and we used to be like, right, 0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:02.719 like he's just just for balance, that's all he would say, just, 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.520 you know, just just for balance. And he didn't take 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:06.920 a look if you watched the film, he didn't take 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.160 one look down at the ground. He back pedaled and 0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:10.399 caught that mother feet down. 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:15.920 And damn yo, that Lebron legacy would be damn different. 0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:22.400 It'd be different, different conversations. Hell, yes, Lebron's legacy. I mean, 0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:26.319 not how great he is, but into how people comparing him. 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:28.480 It wouldn't even be none. 0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:32.520 Like because if he lost to the Spurs, it would 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.880 have been been three times in a row. Would have 0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:36.680 been crazy because that would have been the second time 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:38.480 he would have lost, because Rember lost. 0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.839 He lost in Cleveland. So if he would have got that, yeah, 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.560 and that Wasallas. 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:46.200 The Big three Dallas, then we won. Then would have 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.239 lost him ugly. 0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:49.120 It would have been like that. 0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.880 But people be saying that, but like, we would have 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.759 never even been in that point in the game if 0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.120 it won for Bron, we was down and then he 0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:56.960 took over like. 0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.640 That, and then we. 0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:03.839 Know how. 0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:09.800 Ruined a lot of my playoff experiences. But Bron is 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.600 he is. Really don't get no better than Bron. But 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:16.040 I'm just saying, you know what I was saying. You 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.120 know how people look at it like Mike got six, Kobe. 0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.920 Got fim able to start doing the reports like, oh 0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:25.000 he lost when he had Dwyane Wade and Chris but 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:26.120 he lost twice, that. 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.160 Would have been a big hit. I don't. I don't 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.239 say Jordan's though, just because of it, just because of 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.239 the rings. It ain't just because of that. But you're thinking, 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.680 I mean all I mean, just when I watch basketball, 0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.960 I never seen nobody better than Michael Jordan's from an 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:44.359 impact perspective, from a fundamental like Jordan was the most 0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.440 fundamentally sound player and the most athletic, Like bron do 0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:49.799 stuff that can't nobody practice. You can practice all day, 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:51.640 you can never do what you do just because of 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.480 like his one leg shots and stuff like that. You 0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.239 can't practice shooting like that. He's that's like the gift 0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:00.600 that he got. Like so he he has stuff that 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.200 you can't even practice doing. 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:03.760 That's why I think he's the greatest. 0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.200 But I mean, what's the craziest shit you ever You've 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:07.920 seen Brown do? 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:11.879 Practice? Bro stuff, He's doing practices, stuff that never made 0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:13.719 it to the court was open, like it was one 0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:15.400 practice him in. D Wade got to going at it 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.200 and it was like we was like, oh, goodness. Here 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.960 there you go. It was just basically two basically like 0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:22.360 playing one on one in practice, but it was just 0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:24.640 four other cats out there. Yeah, but it was him 0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:28.160 like proving a point that he was different, because d 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.640 Wade is different too, like for y'all don't know he is, 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:34.320 he's an alien too. But like Wade was like, you know, 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:37.239 hit a couple and it was started to be like, oh, 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.640 it's about to be one of them practices, so everybody 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.320 playing super hard. And then he started making shots that 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:45.920 nobody can make like he started Greg Olden was in 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.040 our practice, tell me no practice. He started like going 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:51.120 shooting shots like wrong wrong leg, left hand, hooked layups. 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.680 He started like doing like almost like Michael Jordan Leb's 0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:55.560 not looking and then he ad run down and look 0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.120 at pat right like I know, I know it's different. 0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:00.440 I know d Waye, y'all boy, but I know different. 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:02.319 He would be doing stuff like that, and I'm like. 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:05.640 I. 0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:14.320 Like not because that would have said some ship like that. 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:19.480 I was in there like he ran he was. He 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.040 was like, I know, he's like, I know, it's crazy. 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:24.720 It's different. He come down shoot you know from wherever stuff. 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:26.200 When he come down do stuff like that, and you 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.840 just be like, all right, bro, let's let's move on 0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:31.279 to the practice the same the same proof, and now 0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:31.960 we get it, like. 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:36.359 He's got to You got to experience the pocket telling 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:37.879 that Nigga matching point for point. 0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:43.719 You way, people don't understand that he can really he's 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:48.120 really a score. He let the media take that past first. There. 0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:49.120 He lets you all run with. 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:50.000 It, and he ran with it. 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:54.400 But he's led to every. 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:57.319 Team he's ever played on inside attemps except one year, 0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:00.040 and he's led the league in like top five. I 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:01.960 have been shot attempts every year of his career, like 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.680 he'd be tricking y'all thinking, but that's his name. 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:06.719 That's how he played the game. Though, just because I 0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:10.400 think because he's so versatile and how great of a 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.880 pastor he really is, it kind of overshadows like. 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:15.880 He's an all time leading scorer. 0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:19.880 Let me tell you how crazy it is. You know, 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:23.839 it's like he's the all time leading scorer, but he's 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:25.719 never led the league in assists, but people say he's 0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:26.879 the best pastor in the game. 0:50:26.960 --> 0:50:28.840 You know how crazy that is because it's his vision, 0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:29.760 I believe, though. 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.000 Not for sure, but saying it's dudes that actually average 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:34.759 tennis system, you know what I mean. Like, but Magic 0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:39.719 Johnson's Isaiah Thomas. Like when seasons where they average like 0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:43.640 twelve assistance, they still and Ron and they still say 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:45.880 like he's the best passor they've ever seen. So I'm like, bro, he. 0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:47.960 Because his eyes, Bro, I think. 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:50.880 So he's not fooling people because let me tell you, 0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:52.720 niggas bucket, he cares about scoring. 0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:53.840 Bro, No, I believe it. 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:56.560 He can score you saying you can outscore him. Bugget 0:50:56.600 --> 0:51:01.560 for buckets, Sean Jackson with that, bro, it ain't too many. 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:07.000 But they went Dela Dover and I was like, I 0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:09.800 was killing and he was like you better keep that 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.959 ship going then and I was like, nigga ain't gonna stop. 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.000 And he was like, well see if you go out 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:20.200 score me. I was like, yeah, I had nineteen, what 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.480 you end up with thirty eight. 0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:27.200 I've only seen him get outdoored one time. I was living. 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:30.560 Only seen Bron get outdoored or like they was going 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.920 at it and somebody outdoing him. I only seen it 0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:35.200 happen when I was there one time, and that was 0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:37.400 when uh and he got his get back, so it 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.359 didn't matter but like that was when when Kate when 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.200 we played OKAYC on Christmas and he went for like 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.480 thirty something and KD went for thirty something. K might 0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:46.440 have had one or two points more, but like they 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.320 was out there dueling to the point where it was like, okay, 0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:51.960 whichever one of them is the league scorer, that's what 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.280 whose team was going in? And I seen many duels 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.799 like that because when d Rose we played them, Yes, sir, 0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.759 the only reason we beat Chicago is because the Rose 0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:01.600 had I think, like thirty four and Brian had like 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.319 thirty five. And when we would go out and play Mellow. 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.160 Like it was like whoever about to say mellow? The 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:10.520 matchups was crazy, but. 0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:13.759 It would be not so much Bron because Bron was 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:16.080 what he would do, but whoever played better between Paul 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:18.040 George and Daddy Granger and d Wade was gonna be 0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.440 who won. And d Wade used to get active against them. 0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:26.719 He used to especially the playoff time like like no, 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.920 like no threes. He was like thirteen for twenty twenty 0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:31.360 five all field goals. 0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:34.319 Like yes, I was like, and what's crazy? Even though people, 0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:36.799 I mean, we lost them, but it was battles. 0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.319 Though it was battles, not Indiana used to make us 0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.120 go through it. It was that was what It changed. 0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:45.440 That verticality rule though here with the max. 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:46.960 Player now right here, but changed the game. 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:49.560 I'm still we had a young PG too. We still 0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:51.120 slip her. 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.200 Career Brian Brian dominant, yeah, y'all and. 0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:57.479 In there too we came off the miss Our best 0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:01.200 game was like, what's the different because starters if you 0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.680 look at the starters, like the score, it was about even. 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:06.440 Talking about the Norse. 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:09.200 It's crazy that y'all bench was the bench I had though, 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.360 like having Shane, Baddy and Ray Allen come out of 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:16.360 the bench Mike Millers, like the dudes is nice, Like 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:19.120 I couldn't believe you had some of them on the minimum, 0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:22.439 like as a playing for the Hawks, Like we would 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.080 have loved to have Ray Hellen for that, Like you 0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:28.320 know what I mean, Like how y'all you know I remember. 0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.440 All of them was like a hundred million dollar dudes. 0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:38.120 Though Mike Miller made crazy Bread crazy with a max. 0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:43.160 But like listen, we would have gave y'all probably five 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:47.239 six minutes just to come to the super like you 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:48.880 probably wouldn't have been a role player. You would have 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:52.960 been our guy. I always want to ask media, I 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.839 wonder how like that beef between him and Boston played 0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:57.960 O friend to go to Miami were because I feel 0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:00.320 like any any continuent would want to out at the 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:00.840 time period. 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:02.759 But Ray was trying to win and we had a 0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:03.359 need for him. 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:04.560 That's the fact we had. 0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:07.000 He He could have went anywhere fit, but we had 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:10.000 an actual need because Mike Miller I got back injury, 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:13.520 and you know, we had James Jones. But James Jones 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.560 was like a specialist shooter, you know, shout out the champ. 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.200 He was a specialst shooter. But we needed him in 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.399 that second unit and we put the way we play 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.080 like played start unit, so we would like get up 0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.920 and down, and so we had a direct need and 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.919 so he was like, I come come there. The beef 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:33.680 with Boston was just like salt on the wound. That 0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:36.000 was just like because he would have came anyway, like 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:38.880 if he was coming from like Milwaukee or somewhere, he 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:41.879 came to Miami. But that beef he had with them, 0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:45.600 that was just like I felt him though, because it's 0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:49.160 like they appreciated him the way they I can't say that, bro, 0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:50.400 I don't know. 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.960 Used to play with him. I'm speaking from a fan 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.160 that's you know you fuck are right? I do too, 0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.640 but I'm saying you was in the gym, but I 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:03.280 feel like him leaving them to go to mic pulling 0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:07.040 up on y'all. From the outside, it looked crazy how 0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:08.080 my nigga don't. 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:11.719 Feel the rivalry is like it was want to be 0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:16.399 one so bad bro real, because I just always felt 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.480 like they ain't give a funk about Miami, like everybody 0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.840 else in the league was kind of like besides like okay, 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:26.840 see in the Spurs in Dallas, Chicago too, Yeah, but 0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:28.719 everybody else kind of like, all right, we ain't gonna 0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:30.839 beat them, Like in Atlanta. We wanted to play them, 0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:33.319 but we I thought we could have beat y'all when 0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:36.920 we had Joe that team when I wasn't like my 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:39.799 second year, I'm like star game. 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:41.960 Nah, we col beat them that year. Hell no. 0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:44.920 But when I had when it was Joe, Jamal, Josh 0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:48.400 Marvin and I was coming off the bench, then they 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:51.399 still had bit. I'm like, we can compete with them. 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:53.239 Now we got we match up. We can switch one 0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:56.120 through five and you coming off the bench, yeah fast 0:55:56.200 --> 0:56:00.560 for yeah, yeah, but I'm like, we match up with 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:03.520 Bron and now Kurt Hiary came. They traded Bid we 0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:05.480 got That's when Bid went there, we got kur Haml. 0:56:05.600 --> 0:56:06.920 We can match up with him. We can play them 0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.719 now we probably wasn't a beat up, but we could 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:10.160 match up. 0:56:10.880 --> 0:56:13.359 I ain't realize till after I left. We can match 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:15.920 up with any team. It's just a matter of we 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:19.160 would just play different. Like whatever team was gonna do something, 0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:23.120 we would just adjust our personnel. So like when we 0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.880 realized Chris Bosh, because Chris had been working on that 0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:28.120 three ball for a while, he just never incorporated and 0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:30.799 we remember he heard itself and came back from injury. 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:32.799 That's when we started playing small ball with him at 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.360 the five. Once we realized we could play like that, 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:38.840 we was like, however, teams want to play. If the 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:41.000 team want to go big, we would just c B 0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:44.440 at the four, Birdman or u d or Joel Anthony 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:47.160 play just make it ugly. Teams want to play pretty 0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:49.640 and go small ball. Ce B go to the five, 0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:52.399 Bron to the four, Shane Battie and Guarth the four, 0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:56.560 d Way Ray me or Rio and then we had 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.400 just playing like that, so we could play any style. 0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:02.120 And if you wanted to play iol ball, which nobody 0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:03.640 really wanted to play because d Wade was a real 0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.600 iceold player. Nobody wanted to play possession ball with us 0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:09.360 except San Antonio. There was the ultimate possessed team. With 0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:11.439 everybody else, they knew they had to play a little 0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.640 fast because all we had to do was throw the 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.120 ball to d Way on the wing, throw the ball 0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:18.920 to CV at the you know, run that horns. 0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.640 Actually that was a nightmare and a half o man. 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.360 And then you you're gonna help off somebody and Shane 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:26.919 Batty is gonna knock it down, but or Mike Miller, 0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:28.720 they're gonna knock it down. So like I realized when 0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:30.120 I left, I was like, man, we could have played 0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:33.240 any style. Like people say, how would y'all compete against 0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:36.600 other championship teams? I'm honestly we could compete against any 0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:38.240 team because we could play any style. Its just a 0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:40.440 matter of us changing our personnel around. 0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:42.840 I like playing against you because you'll used to hedge 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.959 like college, I used to split them fucking ball screen. 0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:49.240 So I can't wait to play. I know we might 0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:52.120 not win. Well, I'm gonna have a good ass game. 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:53.480 I'm gonna get summed out the crowd. 0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:56.000 Stop doing that. It took us a long time to 0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:56.640 get out of doing that. 0:57:56.800 --> 0:57:59.680 Yeah, I'm gonna get smmed out of the crowd. Damnigga 0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:00.400 out there, kilt. 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:09.240 Let me get hurt, because boy, you used to have 0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:12.480 some good games. Yeah yeah, because the ball I'm like 0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:15.960 the only stayed splitting the boss college. 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.720 But then I hated people who sat back because you 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:21.440 had to play in the MIDI little pocket. You couldn't 0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:23.520 shoot threes because they a fight over, so you had 0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:25.200 to play in the midi by shot floaters. 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:28.080 But they head something like let me get down here. 0:58:28.680 --> 0:58:31.040 I was opposite. I didn't like when teams were his 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:33.120 because it was hard to make the pass out of 0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:35.680 the head didn't come off of the score anyway, so 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:37.560 they would be like in the drop or like a 0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:40.439 semi drop. T B was the best in the pocket past. Yeah, 0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:43.480 so I used to practice it, learn how to skip 0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:45.320 it like so it bounced right to a shooting pocket. 0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.120 And then with Shane Battier, he gonna pop offway to 0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:51.600 the three. So like you the got guard, you will 0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:52.880 stay on your hip. 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:57.080 You just stretched, stretched, stretch and then pass wide open? 0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.440 Do that with Al Horford? Yep, Yeah, I gotta ask man. 0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:03.640 We see Pat bav doing it now. You know what 0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:05.320 I'm saying. You had your time in NBA. You know 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:07.280 what I'm saying. How was that transition going to playing 0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:09.600 overseas because a lot of people get a misconception like 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:11.800 there's a lot of great hoopers everywhere in the world, 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:13.800 but it's a totally different game, especially a lot of 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:15.880 people seeing with the feeverball. How was that to go 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:17.640 back to Justin's Like you said, you in the league, 0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:19.479 you learn your role till you get your own company. 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:21.520 Now you're back to playing basketball a little bit the 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.360 way you wante to. How was that to go back? 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:24.840 It's a little bit more refreshing that way. 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:27.000 Nah, for real. Like people were saying stuff about Pat Bev, 0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:29.280 they don't understand he's trying to like in his career 0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:31.400 playing ball the way he grew up playing ball. He 0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:33.880 wanted to love it and like be himself. And when 0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:36.520 you go overseas, that's what you expect they expect you to. 0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:39.240 If you're from America, you American guard, and you go overseas, 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:40.320 they expect you to kill. 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:41.640 Listen, when I say he was on the same with 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:43.919 Indian Legendshaon Thoms. I said, oh yeah, it's all about 0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:45.600 putting buckets up out there, and I know what he all. 0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:48.000 That's that's all it was about, Bro. And it's like 0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.280 the game is different. So people be saying like it's 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:54.120 harder to play fever. To me, it's not. It's just 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.480 a matter of what your skill set is, like if 0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:59.760 you can play, if you got ones, good ones, and 0:59:59.840 --> 1:00:02.240 like you can shoot a little bit, you can play 1:00:02.280 --> 1:00:04.560 overseas because you're too fast for some of their guards 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:06.520 to play one on one. Like, nobody one on one 1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:07.920 is gonna stand in front of me in Europe. It's 1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:11.840 it's slow like getting there. Difference is when you get 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.200 to the realm, it ain't Dwight Howard back there blocking it. 1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.160 So you got a chance to actually do layups. You know, 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:24.000 the play guards are block your shot, let alone the centers. 1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:26.400 So overseas, that's why they don't have no three seconds. 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.480 They can just camp in the lane. There's some giants 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:31.080 out there, Bro, like seven three casts, seven four cats 1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:34.240 out there. And you learn also how to like pass 1:00:34.320 --> 1:00:36.439 on time on target, because if you don't pass on time, 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:38.880 the whole rhythm of the offense that you're running out 1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:40.640 there will be bad because they not one on one player, 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.280 so they depend on you passing to them on time. 1:00:43.320 --> 1:00:46.160 So I became like real precise. But I was used 1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:48.440 to it from playing Miami. So they was like, hey, 1:00:48.440 --> 1:00:49.760 you know what, you can score, but you can pass 1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:53.200 better than what I'm like, I just spent seven years 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:55.360 passing to like the best players in the world, and 1:00:55.360 --> 1:00:58.200 if I threw a bad pass, it was like come 1:00:58.280 --> 1:00:58.520 out there. 1:01:01.160 --> 1:01:01.520 That helped. 1:01:01.680 --> 1:01:05.400 That makes you basketball again though, because like you love basketball, 1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:07.360 playing your role, but like sometimes you just want to 1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:10.360 be yourself. And when I my five years I played 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:12.720 in Europe, I was able to go back to Cleveland 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:16.960 state style, like coast to coast, no dribble, come down, 1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:25.000 no pass, puller good and get next. Yeah, for sure, for. 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.920 Sure that's fire. Like you said, like the business of basketball, 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:29.200 a lot of time gets in a way. We talk 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:30.720 about so many people we know, like we talk about 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:32.560 the Mike Bees Joe crowd. We know could score the 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:35.120 best of them. But the business and basketball can kind 1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:36.480 of make you, you know what I'm saying, put yourself 1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:36.840 in the shell. 1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:38.600 But then a lot of people don't come out of that. 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:39.240 So kudos. 1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:40.760 You know what I'm saying that you're get your opportunity 1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:42.400 back to do what you do best and still want 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:45.240 to hold because a lot of people shit you nine eight, nine, 1:01:45.240 --> 1:01:46.320 ten years of doing the same thing. 1:01:46.400 --> 1:01:47.720 You was like, I ain't even trying to go back 1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:48.479 to that type shit. 1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:50.360 Nah, for sure. That's why a lot of the guards 1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:53.480 overseas that are really good, they don't come back to 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:55.120 the league because they're like, Bro, I can't go back 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:57.640 to city on the bench, Bro, no matter how much, 1:01:57.800 --> 1:02:00.880 even if I'm getting vat minimal like guys like Mike. 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:02.960 James, Shane most buckets ever over there, you. 1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:04.960 Know, saying them to Shane Lark and Mike James out 1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:08.520 there getting busy out there. None Kendrick Nunney out there. 1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:10.480 He just want to win the championship. It was m 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:13.680 VP like, it's a bunch of guys Ronde, Hollis, Jefferson. 1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:18.160 He oversees one of the coldest international players in the world. 1:02:18.200 --> 1:02:20.800 Bro can no like see Ron Day, but to come 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:23.760 back to the NBA and then be relegated. Some dudes 1:02:23.960 --> 1:02:26.200 ain't with me to do that, and they paying you 1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:28.520 like they're paying you nice. Once you prove, once you 1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:31.800 go out there and your proven year man, they can 1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:33.800 pay you a livable ways where you like eating good 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:36.120 and always say it's spend the same no matter where 1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:41.320 you get it from ehere, b And you get to 1:02:41.400 --> 1:02:44.840 live in places where people pay the vacation like the 1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:47.680 MafA Coast. I played in the Mafia Coast out the Italy. 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.680 I played in Tel Aviv, I played in Malaga, south 1:02:50.760 --> 1:02:54.400 of Spain. I played in like the capitol of Montenegro, 1:02:54.560 --> 1:02:58.880 so like fake real vacation spots, like just like Puerto Rico. 1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:01.280 Like so it's like, you know, people be paying big 1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:03.520 money to go. I'm living out there for them. 1:03:03.560 --> 1:03:06.520 That's what I'm just about to ask you, the lifestyle adjustment. 1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:10.640 The food is so good out there, that's the best 1:03:10.720 --> 1:03:14.240 part about it. Damn because novatives time. 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:14.680 I heard it. 1:03:15.000 --> 1:03:18.360 But the fruit be like real fruit. It ain't all 1:03:18.400 --> 1:03:20.360 that fake sugar and stuff. And the food out there 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:24.800 is fresh, there's no the foods. And then then the 1:03:24.920 --> 1:03:26.840 views out there, nice views. 1:03:27.280 --> 1:03:29.919 I heard that about that. The foods good. 1:03:30.320 --> 1:03:30.920 I ain't gonna lie. 1:03:31.240 --> 1:03:31.480 I got. 1:03:32.160 --> 1:03:35.920 I had a real Italian pasta bro spaghetti from Italy, 1:03:36.040 --> 1:03:38.640 like an Italian man made it bro like the chef. 1:03:39.520 --> 1:03:42.200 I was like, and then a real pizza, not that 1:03:42.320 --> 1:03:45.400 greasy stuff that we'd be having, real Italian pizza. I 1:03:45.520 --> 1:03:48.600 was like, I see why guys don't want to come back. 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.040 I see why guys getting married out there and stay out. 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:55.600 There crazy being positive, my boy, Yeah, I'm here to 1:03:55.680 --> 1:03:56.320 kill you here. 1:03:56.400 --> 1:04:10.880 You ain't no, yeah, ain't no, ain't no Italian last year. 1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:19.520 Perfection, Tony's gonna be in that. 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:24.120 You could have loved it. 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:25.480 You would have liked it, though, at least for one year. 1:04:25.520 --> 1:04:27.160 In one of two years, the only you would to like, 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:28.640 it's a long season. 1:04:29.080 --> 1:04:30.800 I had a chance to go to Barcelona, but I 1:04:31.000 --> 1:04:34.880 just then for rom When I first retired, they wanted 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:35.520 me to come out there. 1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:38.760 I just they always try to pluck the freshly retired. 1:04:38.960 --> 1:04:40.240 They always tried to I was. 1:04:40.280 --> 1:04:43.000 Like, Jacob pull was out there for Barcelona. Yeah, I 1:04:43.040 --> 1:04:47.800 don't know who's out there. I was like, man, hell now. 1:04:48.280 --> 1:04:50.080 Now you made you get enough damage to where you 1:04:50.160 --> 1:04:51.120 ain't I. 1:04:51.120 --> 1:04:53.240 Should have went through. It's been a cool experience, but 1:04:53.280 --> 1:04:56.240 I'm so like homebody. That's why I live in Indianapolis. 1:04:57.320 --> 1:04:59.000 Tell me that's why I live in. That's why I 1:04:59.000 --> 1:04:59.520 live in Dating. 1:05:00.040 --> 1:05:00.640 Yeah, I'm home. 1:05:01.560 --> 1:05:02.680 I quit going back out there. 1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:02.840 Bro. 1:05:02.880 --> 1:05:04.120 It would take a lot for me to go back 1:05:04.160 --> 1:05:07.479 out there. Yeah, I find the leads to play because 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:12.080 ten months is like that's damn, but they'd be out 1:05:12.160 --> 1:05:14.600 some cast be out there. Training can't start in August, Bro, 1:05:15.640 --> 1:05:16.200 they want. 1:05:16.040 --> 1:05:21.360 You way August through May. Like, how would I be 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:22.120 able to podcast? 1:05:22.240 --> 1:05:26.040 Your team is good? June when I played for Tel Aviv, 1:05:26.120 --> 1:05:28.760 we won the Israeli Championship. I left at the end 1:05:28.800 --> 1:05:31.680 of August. I didn't get home till June twenty something, Bro, 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:34.680 or June, like the last week of June. I was like, 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:39.600 this is crazy. Happy you win the championship. This is crazy. 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:42.400 Yeah, I heard. Tel Aviv nice though, the. 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:44.120 Nicest place in the world. To be honest with you, 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:47.240 it's like Miami, New York, and San Francisco all in one. 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:48.000 Damn. 1:05:48.360 --> 1:05:49.640 I ain't mad to be out there for. 1:05:51.440 --> 1:05:54.240 They got the beach. They got the beach, they got 1:05:54.320 --> 1:05:56.480 the skyline like New York, and they got all the 1:05:56.600 --> 1:05:58.800 tech like house you know, San Francisco. 1:05:59.040 --> 1:06:02.600 Short vibes. Yeah, that's for a good time. 1:06:02.720 --> 1:06:03.160 The baby. 1:06:04.440 --> 1:06:06.320 You gotta give me some real chickens out there. If 1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:08.800 I'm in the NBA, though, yeah, you go to another 1:06:08.800 --> 1:06:10.880 you're gonna get some millionaire a year you don't get. 1:06:11.400 --> 1:06:11.440 No. 1:06:11.520 --> 1:06:15.400 I'm just saying, like, Brad, you're really a homebody like that, 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:19.480 Like I'm a home by the money into it though. 1:06:19.520 --> 1:06:22.600 The money was cool, but my mind wasn't there. Would 1:06:22.800 --> 1:06:24.320 about the money if your mind ain't in it, if 1:06:24.360 --> 1:06:26.760 you can't do the grind, right, that's what. That's why 1:06:26.800 --> 1:06:28.880 I stopped going out there as much, because it's like 1:06:29.640 --> 1:06:32.400 basketball is basketball. But I'm like, man, ten months is 1:06:32.440 --> 1:06:34.160 too long for one too, Like I want to be 1:06:34.240 --> 1:06:36.440 at home now, like I pay my dues. I'm a 1:06:36.520 --> 1:06:38.600 veteran now, like I should be to fly home and 1:06:38.880 --> 1:06:40.080 sleep in my bed sometimes. 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:43.439 So it's like now, my mind wasn't ready for nothing 1:06:43.520 --> 1:06:44.480 like that, bro, And. 1:06:44.560 --> 1:06:47.600 They talk crazy to you sometimes I would matter who 1:06:47.840 --> 1:06:52.760 no matter who you are, they yes, bro, every now 1:06:52.760 --> 1:06:55.240 and then like you're a foreigner, Bro, that's exactly right 1:06:55.280 --> 1:06:58.160 there at home. I would have left, would have been 1:06:58.200 --> 1:07:01.560 like crazy ally to take you the cavary two days 1:07:01.560 --> 1:07:05.200 to get out there. Yeah, they can't come cavalry pulling up. 1:07:06.680 --> 1:07:11.320 My niggas got passed Port, She laughed. She talking about 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:15.080 I'd have been a count of thrashop you talking. 1:07:14.880 --> 1:07:15.600 About came. 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:19.320 Mister Greeley. 1:07:21.320 --> 1:07:24.720 Really, that's what miss Well they got damn jumped off 1:07:24.760 --> 1:07:25.520 the ropes together. 1:07:27.520 --> 1:07:30.440 That's miss Greeley. Put the name put it back in 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:35.400 his intros. Back man, you, Jeff Harty, Robert Cavary. 1:07:36.000 --> 1:07:38.320 Hey, Im fun. 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:48.160 Surreal Cavry, the Top turn Man, Great Jelly Boys, and 1:07:48.440 --> 1:07:49.080 the fact. 1:07:49.320 --> 1:07:50.360 It's like that out there though. 1:07:50.400 --> 1:07:53.040 I mean respect hey man. 1:07:53.040 --> 1:07:54.920 Shout out to everybody overseas getting to it. 1:07:55.000 --> 1:07:56.640 Man, we appreciate it before we get up out of 1:07:56.680 --> 1:07:58.600 here at Norris, Man, we appreciate you sliding on us, man, 1:07:58.640 --> 1:07:59.600 telling people that can find you. 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:02.040 At Big Up. You can find me on Instagram Norse 1:08:02.120 --> 1:08:05.000 Cold with the blue check mark, okay PG thirty on 1:08:05.080 --> 1:08:08.320 the score Cold on the Twitter TikTok Norse Cold thirty. 1:08:08.600 --> 1:08:10.360 My boy be out here catching my gills, ringing to 1:08:10.480 --> 1:08:13.280 get into it. Man, for sure, we appreciate you sliding. 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:13.440 On us man. 1:08:14.160 --> 1:08:16.920 Yeah, West, I've been trying to get over here. Now. 1:08:17.160 --> 1:08:18.559 You know what I'm saying. We allowed to make it happen. 1:08:19.960 --> 1:08:21.479 I ain't gonna lie. I'm still shitty but. 1:08:23.400 --> 1:08:24.120 Let that go. 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:27.400 Before we got to here be tell the people that 1:08:27.400 --> 1:08:29.240 can't grasp some our chat hold on, Norris, What was 1:08:29.280 --> 1:08:29.920 that score again? 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:33.680 Eighty three sixty nine State wait for us, Damn. 1:08:33.600 --> 1:08:35.200 Shop Club twenty dot com. 1:08:38.720 --> 1:08:43.760 Hey my co fucking me, shout that ship up. Up 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:50.839 the volume,