Addressing ALL the Nintendo Switch 2 Misinformation | Nontendo Podcast #136

<v Speaker 1>Misinformation Central Non Tender podcast featuring Yours truly. Wood Woodson
<v Speaker 1>joined once again by blasting to the Maximus Maximilian. Yeah
<v Speaker 1>I'm here. I just saw you, like fress, I was
<v Speaker 1>afraid it was broken. Yeah, I'm joined by Max once again.
<v Speaker 1>It is a gorgeously overcast day there. The sun is hiding,
<v Speaker 1>just like our spirits, just like the hype for the switch.
<v Speaker 1>We got a lot to talk about. Wow, that cut
<v Speaker 1>out so abruptly. Sorry, No, you're fine, Just what you
<v Speaker 1>know what? Around the time, I you know what? What
<v Speaker 1>hit the intro? Let's do it. Let's hit that intro
<v Speaker 1>if I can find the button.
<v Speaker 2>All right?
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, once again we have Max back. Thank you
<v Speaker 1>so much for coming down all the way from Queens
<v Speaker 1>the Queen's. I appreciate it. Kim is extremely, extremely pregnant.
<v Speaker 1>Now I'll keep this very short because I know we're
<v Speaker 1>all here for switch information. Had a hell of a morning.
<v Speaker 1>She is so pregnant, like it could happen any day,
<v Speaker 1>like we're getting the signs. I'm honestly, I'm anxious. The
<v Speaker 1>last three yays, I've just been anxious because I feel
<v Speaker 1>like I'm just we're packed and ready to go. That's
<v Speaker 1>the time zone that we're in. And this morning we
<v Speaker 1>woke up and Kim's hands had swollen up so much
<v Speaker 1>that she couldn't get her rings off, and after much
<v Speaker 1>struggle with dental floss and dishwashing liquid, we got all
<v Speaker 1>but one off her wedding band. There was no shot
<v Speaker 1>that was coming off, so right before Max got here,
<v Speaker 1>we had to take her to the urgent and they
<v Speaker 1>had to cut the ring off because it was getting
<v Speaker 1>it was getting really tight. That's crazy. That's that's a
<v Speaker 1>crazy morning you end. It was pretty uh, insane obviously
<v Speaker 1>for Kim, but very pretty stressful. The last place you
<v Speaker 1>want to go is urgent care right before you have
<v Speaker 1>to go to the hospital at some point soon. Also,
<v Speaker 1>it'll be funny. It won't be funny. It'll be funny
<v Speaker 1>if next week we go live with the show again
<v Speaker 1>and it still hasn't happened. It we're at the stage
<v Speaker 1>where like we're getting early signs uh And apparently according
<v Speaker 1>to Kim and her research, it means it could either
<v Speaker 1>be tonight or it could be a month from now.
<v Speaker 1>If the stream suddenly ends, you guys will know exactly
<v Speaker 1>My phone is is glued to the table today and
<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping a watchful eye on it. So yeah, that's
<v Speaker 1>all of that. Let's dive in to all of this.
<v Speaker 1>It's been a very stressful couple of weeks and I
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't really know where to begin. We have
<v Speaker 1>a whole dock with so much any things that I've pulled,
<v Speaker 1>you guys have seen online, I'm sure there is so
<v Speaker 1>much happening, and I'll say, off the rip, there are
<v Speaker 1>a lot of conversations that are still completely valid and
<v Speaker 1>they have been from the start. This is not running
<v Speaker 1>defense on Nintendo. This is trying to get and cut
<v Speaker 1>through a lot of the misinformation because what's happening right now,
<v Speaker 1>I feel like is pretty clear is people are very
<v Speaker 1>upset at the prices and Nintendo. What the terminology that
<v Speaker 1>has been thrown around is greed, which is fair if
<v Speaker 1>you feel that way, it is fair. And I immediately
<v Speaker 1>day one day, ground one zero of that direct I
<v Speaker 1>uploaded a video on my main channel talking about all
<v Speaker 1>the price issues I had an issue with that I
<v Speaker 1>think are issues, and I hope to see some of
<v Speaker 1>those changed. But I think the insane not insane, but
<v Speaker 1>I think the livid community of gamers are finding absolutely
<v Speaker 1>anything to get upset about around Nintendo, and it's leading
<v Speaker 1>to people like reading fine print of things and then
<v Speaker 1>drawing their own correlations. I mean even Max walked in
<v Speaker 1>today and was like, I heard that the game could
<v Speaker 1>controller could only be used on the switch on Line app.
<v Speaker 3>Which that would be crazy. I don't know why I
<v Speaker 3>believe that that would that.
<v Speaker 1>Was the case. So, I mean that was just one
<v Speaker 1>and like we can pull up some things, but essentially
<v Speaker 1>with that one, just to talk about that one, all
<v Speaker 1>of these switch online controllers that come out, they have
<v Speaker 1>the same terminology well find it, it's in here, but
<v Speaker 1>essentially it reads this is to use with the switch
<v Speaker 1>online app. So a lot of people took that as oh,
<v Speaker 1>you can only use it with the switch on line app.
<v Speaker 1>But these controllers that say that you can you can
<v Speaker 1>use it on other things. I don't know how that works.
<v Speaker 1>I think games might have to do like an update
<v Speaker 1>to be like you can use it on this, right,
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think the buttons are one buttons,
<v Speaker 1>just a one for one whatever it is. See this
<v Speaker 1>is why it's a confusing whatever it is. It's the
<v Speaker 1>same terminology on every box. Um, they're all sticking with
<v Speaker 1>basic info and critiques. Yeah, well, I feel like so
<v Speaker 1>someone will say something and then instantly every YouTuber will
<v Speaker 1>make a video about it. And I've been trying really
<v Speaker 1>hard to hold off on making any videos because I
<v Speaker 1>made I made one about Zelder games, and in that one,
<v Speaker 1>I had an arc in the video where I was like,
<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of nuts that they're charging you
<v Speaker 1>ten dollars more for the Zelder Enhanced editions and then
<v Speaker 1>locking all the extra content behind the app which you
<v Speaker 1>have to subscribe to. And I was like, so we're
<v Speaker 1>paying ten dollars more and the extra content is behind
<v Speaker 1>another paywall, And I put out a whole video because
<v Speaker 1>I just assumed that was the case, and then people
<v Speaker 1>were like no, specifically, the Zelder notes app in the
<v Speaker 1>Switch online app is free to use for everybody, and
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, well now now I've put out misinformation.
<v Speaker 1>So I took video down immediately and I fixed it
<v Speaker 1>all right, So we're gonna dive into a lot of that.
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about a lot of that. The
<v Speaker 1>people are also, Oh god, it's so there's so much.
<v Speaker 1>There's so much. People are so angry online. I've been
<v Speaker 1>dealing with people on Twitter anything anything somewhat nice I've
<v Speaker 1>said about Nintendo, or somewhat understanding I've said, or anything
<v Speaker 1>that came out of the switch to event that I
<v Speaker 1>went to. People are having a hard time believing that
<v Speaker 1>I was even a raffle winner. Like there are people
<v Speaker 1>that are like, come on, Nintendo sent you. Nintendo sent
<v Speaker 1>you and Bob to that open to the public day
<v Speaker 1>where everybody else there was just a member of the public.
<v Speaker 3>You were sent to that. Why would you lie? Like,
<v Speaker 3>what's the benefit of lying?
<v Speaker 1>The benefit the benefit of lying would be for me
<v Speaker 1>to try and put out an image that I'm not
<v Speaker 1>being my opinions not being swayed. Is me saying like, no,
<v Speaker 1>my opinion's totally my own. Nintendo didn't send me to
<v Speaker 1>that event, Okay, that would because what has come out
<v Speaker 1>of all those influences going is they've pretty much all
<v Speaker 1>said that this thing is cool, Like I Justine Casey,
<v Speaker 1>nice stat Marcus Brownlee. They pretty much oh, like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's a nice piece of tech. It's a fun little
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo console, right, But everybody is like, no, they must
<v Speaker 1>be lying, which there's something happening here which is quite bizarre.
<v Speaker 1>But totally understandable. The switch to is really nice. The
<v Speaker 1>quality of it is really good. It's Nintendo. Everything they've
<v Speaker 1>done is quality. Everything they make is quality. Even the WIU,
<v Speaker 1>which bombed because it was a mess of a situation.
<v Speaker 1>The actual console was quality. It just missed the mark.
<v Speaker 1>You know. Everything they do is quality. And the screen
<v Speaker 1>in person is fun. The screen in person is sick.
<v Speaker 1>It's really nice, is clean, the HDR is popping. You're
<v Speaker 1>getting colors out of that thing that I didn't see
<v Speaker 1>on the lead. But there's obviously pros and cons to
<v Speaker 1>not having an O lead, like the olead has better
<v Speaker 1>blacks and better richness in the dark in the darker tones.
<v Speaker 1>But all that aside that the actual console is nice.
<v Speaker 1>But people are trying to find ways to trash the
<v Speaker 1>console or say that the console is bad or that
<v Speaker 1>it's crap, or that it could have been this, or
<v Speaker 1>it could have been that, or the Steam Deck is
<v Speaker 1>better because they're not happy with the price of like
<v Speaker 1>Mario cut which I think we're just getting convoluted messages
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think like trying to tell Nintendo, hey,
<v Speaker 1>the console sucks when it doesn't is the right messaging.
<v Speaker 1>It's if your opinion is it's expensive, then you say
<v Speaker 1>I think it's expensive, and then you don't buy it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think a lot of this might be
<v Speaker 3>sort of just riding that snowball of like you know this,
<v Speaker 3>you know they're trying to take our money. Oh now
<v Speaker 3>this is only compatible with this situation. I just feel like,
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's some sort of train.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think the other thing people you really
<v Speaker 1>have to look out for. And I'm telling you this
<v Speaker 1>as a creator. I'm telling you this as a creator
<v Speaker 1>because I already fell into the trap and I'm trying
<v Speaker 1>not to do it. Negativity cells online like over the
<v Speaker 1>last ten years, specifically especially on Twitter, but with all
<v Speaker 1>social medias and YouTube and articles and outlets and anything
<v Speaker 1>trying to get your attention, negativity cells, whatever harsh headline
<v Speaker 1>they can give, whatever negative spin they can put on
<v Speaker 1>something that's gonna get the clicks and not the positive.
<v Speaker 1>Cause someone could make one hundred videos talking about how
<v Speaker 1>great this thing is, but that gets old pretty quickly
<v Speaker 1>and people just really aren't that interested. What they want
<v Speaker 1>to hear is why does it suck? Why am I
<v Speaker 1>getting ripped off? What's happening now? And so YouTubers and
<v Speaker 1>content creators and outlets, they're gonna put the most negative
<v Speaker 1>spin on everything. They're going to try and find the
<v Speaker 1>next negative thing, and you're gonna get sucked in, and
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna either believe it I be real, or you're
<v Speaker 1>gonna believe a twisted version of it based on a headline.
<v Speaker 1>And I fell into the same trap recently. I made
<v Speaker 1>that Zelda video. I thought they were charging you for
<v Speaker 1>the online app. So my initial thumbnail was me looking
<v Speaker 1>upset with prices all over the thumbnail, me making it
<v Speaker 1>look like, look how bad it is, Look how ripped
<v Speaker 1>off we're getting. And then I was like, oh, I'm okay,
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong. So I changed it to me looking happier
<v Speaker 1>and having a more positive vibe, and I was like,
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait until
<v Speaker 1>this thing comes out. You know, I'm gonna wait until
<v Speaker 1>we see more about Mario kar I'm gonna wait until
<v Speaker 1>we find out more and we actually get these things
<v Speaker 1>in our hands. Then trying to read fine print on
<v Speaker 1>a box or on the back of a cover to
<v Speaker 1>make my opinions and then try and get people are
<v Speaker 1>pissed off and riled up.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's only been how many days, eight days
<v Speaker 3>since we got the announcement and got the the not
<v Speaker 3>the announcement, but the direct. So I feel like, let's
<v Speaker 3>let's let let's let the information catch up to us.
<v Speaker 3>You know, we're still learn a lot about the details.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, things are happening so quickly and people are finding things,
<v Speaker 1>and the information is vague one hundred percent, No, you're
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. We've got a super chat for two
<v Speaker 1>from sent The information is vague. But it's also because
<v Speaker 1>they did an hour direct and they kind of kept
<v Speaker 1>things to like here's this, here's this, here's this, here's this,
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if they knew like, oh, we
<v Speaker 1>should probably clarify about the GameCube controller, or we should
<v Speaker 1>probably clarify about blah blah blah, because I mean, they've
<v Speaker 1>released a bunch of these controllers now and I don't
<v Speaker 1>think they ever really clarified what you can use it on.
<v Speaker 1>People were just excited to buy the game. People were
<v Speaker 1>excited to buy the sixty four controller. It could have
<v Speaker 1>been only for that app and people would were fine,
<v Speaker 1>and then you get it and you find out, oh,
<v Speaker 1>I can use it here I can use it there,
<v Speaker 1>I probably won't because it's a sixty four controller and
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to use a pro controller, right But
<v Speaker 1>people bought this excited and then tender, we're like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>now we're going to do a GameCube one. And because
<v Speaker 1>everyone is livid right now, they're like, why does the
<v Speaker 1>fine print say that I can only use it in
<v Speaker 1>the GameCube? Ap Like Jesus, I just feel like people, uh,
<v Speaker 1>just angry. They're just angry right now.
<v Speaker 3>And given the option, why would you use an N
<v Speaker 3>sixty four controller and a non and sixty four game
<v Speaker 3>the sixty four controller.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I get why people want to use the GameCube,
<v Speaker 1>but also the GameCube buttons are wacky. They're like, it's
<v Speaker 1>it's you got to try and really get your head.
<v Speaker 1>If you want to play a normal game with this,
<v Speaker 1>with where the positioning of the B, A and X
<v Speaker 1>Y button is, it's going to do your head in
<v Speaker 1>because they're not in the position that they're supposed to
<v Speaker 1>be in for normal games. But that's beside the point. Obviously,
<v Speaker 1>you know, we want it to be able to be
<v Speaker 1>used like a normal controller, and it might be let's
<v Speaker 1>get it, stick it in, see what it does you know. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>let's do it all right. I'm kind of just ranting,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't really know where to begin. But we
<v Speaker 1>do have like a whole dock of things. If you
<v Speaker 1>see anything in the chat you think it's worth mentioning
<v Speaker 1>or any like chat super chats of anything, you got it.
<v Speaker 3>If you want to get to the GameCube controller stuff,
<v Speaker 3>that's number eighteen, Okay, we can get to that.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what we've pulled here.
<v Speaker 4>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And if it's like the evidence in reverse or it's
<v Speaker 1>just the the article of saying that it, I mean
<v Speaker 1>this is we can show this, but this says then
<v Speaker 1>t to switch to gamecub controller appears to only be
<v Speaker 1>compatible with GameCube classics according to the small print. And
<v Speaker 1>again that's also what the other controllers said. And I
<v Speaker 1>think this terminology is from Nintendo to be like, we've
<v Speaker 1>designed this thing to work with the app. If you
<v Speaker 1>want to use it for anything else, you probably can.
<v Speaker 1>But we can't quality We can't quantity check or quality
<v Speaker 1>quality check. We can't quality check that experience. Yeah, is there?
<v Speaker 3>Does the GameCube controller have the same amount of buttons?
<v Speaker 3>It's like a switch controller.
<v Speaker 1>M that's another good point I think it's more in
<v Speaker 1>different positions. But this is what I'm talking about here.
<v Speaker 1>So the IGN tweet that blew up with three thousand likes,
<v Speaker 1>the Nintendo switch to gameque controller pissed are only be
<v Speaker 1>compatible with gamecued classics according to fineprint. And then you
<v Speaker 1>see you'll probably see comments like this first one, the
<v Speaker 1>like you guys mentally stable right now? Why are you
<v Speaker 1>guys making such stupid decisions all of a sudden? Then
<v Speaker 1>you go to the article and you actually read it
<v Speaker 1>down here. As VGC notes, it's worth considering that other
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo controllers with similar disclaimers have not been fully limited.
<v Speaker 1>Players have been able to make retro controllers work. We're applicable. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so what are we talking about? Yeah?
<v Speaker 4>What?
<v Speaker 1>And this is just what I mean. At the start
<v Speaker 1>of this episode, a tweet will go out with a
<v Speaker 1>headline like this because IGN knows it's going to piss
<v Speaker 1>people off, because IGN wants the clicks and the likes,
<v Speaker 1>and they want you to come to the article, but
<v Speaker 1>no one's going to read. No one ever reads. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a media thing that's been around forever,
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, thank you at least IGN for putting
<v Speaker 1>this in here at the very end of getting everybody
<v Speaker 1>pissed off. But at least it's in here, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, maybe maybe it won't, maybe it won't,
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not saying it will. Maybe it won't. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>it'll come out. Maybe let's find out. Because the other
<v Speaker 1>one said the same thing and they do.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's a one for one controller type situation.
<v Speaker 3>I use my S and E S controllers for Scott
<v Speaker 3>Pilgrim and they work fine. Like the Scott Pilgrim Beat
<v Speaker 3>Them Up game, that's a sick way to play that. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's very fun. It's very fun, and they work fine.
<v Speaker 3>The only thing that's frustrating is like the home button,
<v Speaker 3>Like how do you get to the home page when
<v Speaker 3>you need to? So I feel like they put in that,
<v Speaker 3>you know that that fine print to me because.
<v Speaker 1>They can't quality check every experience. They can't play every
<v Speaker 1>game on the console with the thing. It's like this
<v Speaker 1>is for this, Yeah, if you want to use it
<v Speaker 1>for that, it might work. It might work. We don't know.
<v Speaker 1>There's so let's pull up next. Let's go to what
<v Speaker 1>Bowser said, because that one legitimately annoyed me, and I
<v Speaker 1>think that that's a good one to cut too. Oh sorry, yeah, no,
<v Speaker 1>you're fine. I haven't got it yet. Do you know
<v Speaker 1>what number it is? No?
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, if you do, like control F and then Doug
<v Speaker 3>Bowser on price, Yeah, that's that's it, this one.
<v Speaker 1>Anything that say, Sam, that's so to be fair, let's
<v Speaker 1>let's I think everything I've said right now is relatively fair.
<v Speaker 1>But to be fair, I know I'm a Nintendo creator.
<v Speaker 1>I know it's my whole career. I really I really
<v Speaker 1>do need this thing to be successful, right, So I
<v Speaker 1>have invested interest in that way, right, But at the
<v Speaker 1>same time, I've always tried to be incredibly unbiased in
<v Speaker 1>all of my content. I have made videos. I destroyed
<v Speaker 1>my relationship with Nintendo for so many reasons, but I
<v Speaker 1>made videos trashing on Dino Bla two when I stand
<v Speaker 1>by that to this day. There's other videos that I recently,
<v Speaker 1>very recently trashed Mario and Luigi Brothership, Like does it
<v Speaker 1>behoove me to pretend like these games are the like
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo's do everything incredible? Yeah? Sure, I mean I could
<v Speaker 1>have said Mario is great, everybody go buy it. There's
<v Speaker 1>a link so you can go buy on GameStop and
<v Speaker 1>I get commissioned. No, I said it was bad because
<v Speaker 1>it's bad. I try really hard to be unbiased. I
<v Speaker 1>think this thing is sick. I think eighty dollars for
<v Speaker 1>Mario Ka is insane, especially from Nintendo. And I think
<v Speaker 1>that this is also one that really bothered me. And
<v Speaker 1>there are people you can cut to it now. There
<v Speaker 1>are people on two sides of this fence. Some people
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's as bad as it seems. I think
<v Speaker 1>the terminology that he used is different, but it equates
<v Speaker 1>to the same thing. So I'm going to try and
<v Speaker 1>find the actual quote here. But what is happening is
<v Speaker 1>oh wait, no, the quotes right here. So Doug Bowser
<v Speaker 1>on Nintendo switches to price, So he was asked about
<v Speaker 1>the price. People are having issues with the price. He
<v Speaker 1>mentioned how tariffs aren't included in this. This was the
<v Speaker 1>price that they were always going to set. Some people
<v Speaker 1>may not be able to afford the switch to his
<v Speaker 1>price point. That's why we wanted to make the other
<v Speaker 1>switch platforms available. This sucks. I hate that he said that.
<v Speaker 1>So this is something that I've talked about a lot
<v Speaker 1>in my channel over the years, the Xbox One's failure.
<v Speaker 1>It's something I've always found very fascinating because you probably
<v Speaker 1>you won't be able to see, but Max can attest
<v Speaker 1>from two of these sections of switch games. There's two
<v Speaker 1>of those of Xbox three sixty games. I loved the
<v Speaker 1>Xbox three sixty. I was a big Xbox stan and
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't really into PlayStation in that generation, and I
<v Speaker 1>was very excited for the Xbox One. And they were
<v Speaker 1>so many things that botched that launch, and so many
<v Speaker 1>things that we can draw correlations to what Nintendo were
<v Speaker 1>literally botching right now with this launch. And one thing
<v Speaker 1>that happened during that was this guy called Dawn. I
<v Speaker 1>can't remember his last name, but he was the president
<v Speaker 1>of business at Microsoft at the time. He came out
<v Speaker 1>and said very smugly, which rubbed people the wrong way.
<v Speaker 1>If there are people that don't have Internet or they
<v Speaker 1>don't think they can use the new Xbox One, we
<v Speaker 1>have a product for them, and it's called the Xbox
<v Speaker 1>three sixty. That was his exact words. And it was like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>then we won't buy it. Yeah, you know, and this
<v Speaker 1>he said it differently. I mean for him, he's kind
<v Speaker 1>of saying like it's all the same ecosystem. I see
<v Speaker 1>if I can pull up the actual thing. If you
<v Speaker 1>can't afford it, It's almost like he was saying it
<v Speaker 1>in a way with more care, like if you can't
<v Speaker 1>afford it, it's okay, We're going to support the old ones.
<v Speaker 1>Still moving forward. You can still be part of that ecosystem.
<v Speaker 1>But it is just not a good sign. I think
<v Speaker 1>that in the midst of people being very upset with you,
<v Speaker 1>which is what the Xbox situation was, to say, well,
<v Speaker 1>if you can't afford it, if you're a broke boy,
<v Speaker 1>just say so. Here is the original.
<v Speaker 3>It's giving let them eat cake, you know what I mean?
<v Speaker 3>What's that the Antoinette Marie Antoinette quote where she's they
<v Speaker 3>were like, Marie Antoinette, you know the people of France
<v Speaker 3>can't afford bread. She says, let the meat cake because
<v Speaker 3>she has no idea like how cake is made.
<v Speaker 1>That's actually funny and yeah, that's that equates. And by
<v Speaker 1>the way, that Dune guy from Microsoft, he was LEO
<v Speaker 1>a month later like it was that bad, like what
<v Speaker 1>he said, like it destroyed the image at the time.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, their image was already really bad, but that
<v Speaker 1>was like a rubbing it in. People did not want
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with Microsoft at that point, and they
<v Speaker 1>had to replace I think Phil Spencer took over from
<v Speaker 1>I think someone took over, and yeah, they changed everything.
<v Speaker 1>So Xbox was like, I don't know if you remember this,
<v Speaker 1>so you know about this, but they were trying to
<v Speaker 1>make it so you couldn't share games physical or digital.
<v Speaker 1>They were locked to accounts, you had to be on
<v Speaker 1>the internet at all times. They had to connect, which
<v Speaker 1>was forced, and you had to pay for it. It
<v Speaker 1>would be like if Nintendo were forcing you to buy
<v Speaker 1>their camera. Also, it's not great that both these comparisons
<v Speaker 1>have a new camera. Yeah, well, yeah, it's weird. I've
<v Speaker 1>been really championing, championing, championing this launch for a long
<v Speaker 1>time and literally saying repeatedly, I don't see how they
<v Speaker 1>could fail. I am now seeing how they could fail. Like,
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of misinformation and I'm going to get
<v Speaker 1>to more, but a lot of what they're doing is
<v Speaker 1>really scaring me because the public image is not great.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the public image is not great, but
<v Speaker 3>I still think that they're going to make a good product.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the product's great, that's not the issue. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>the issue. And here's here's another thing, here's another tangent,
<v Speaker 1>and we can get to I want to get back
<v Speaker 1>to this article because he said something else. We pretty
<v Speaker 1>much all agreed immediately that four p fifty is fine. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like we all expected it to be more expensive if
<v Speaker 1>you didn't you want following my content, but also a
<v Speaker 1>little crazy. A lot of us thought four hundred, but
<v Speaker 1>four point fifty makes sense when you see what they're offering,
<v Speaker 1>the quality of the build, HDR in the screen, one
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty, frame capability, four K. This is everything
<v Speaker 1>we've been asking for them for eight years. And those
<v Speaker 1>things aren't free. Those things don't come cheap, you know,
<v Speaker 1>and it's you know, it's quality, you know it's Nintendo,
<v Speaker 1>and you know that you're going to have this one
<v Speaker 1>console for the next eight years. Right, So a lot
<v Speaker 1>of that, a lot of us can break down in
<v Speaker 1>our heads and be like, Okay, console prices were usually
<v Speaker 1>pretty flexible on you can't come out at six hundred.
<v Speaker 1>But I think four point fifty is still just in
<v Speaker 1>that realm of being acceptable for most people. And I
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a decent price. Would have liked four hundred,
<v Speaker 1>but again I didn't expect HDR one hundred and twenty frames.
<v Speaker 1>So we're there, we got it. But from a company
<v Speaker 1>that up until this point in this last generation specifically
<v Speaker 1>have made themselves a name and a fan base from
<v Speaker 1>having the affordable games and the affordable experience to not
<v Speaker 1>only up the price of the console, but choose this
<v Speaker 1>moment to tell us that they're doing variable pricing on
<v Speaker 1>games and Mario Cutt's going to be eighty dollars, So
<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden are affordable. Nintendo Fun Place
<v Speaker 1>has become the most expensive place to buy video games.
<v Speaker 1>That's a harsh handbreak tone, while you're also asking people
<v Speaker 1>to spend four fifty on a console. And the thing
<v Speaker 1>that scares me the most here about this is the
<v Speaker 1>three DS, the Xbox One, and the WIU. They all
<v Speaker 1>failed for different reasons, but one main reason that was
<v Speaker 1>attributed to all of them was high price. So if
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo were coming out with a high priced console for
<v Speaker 1>them and at the same time knowing that's what has
<v Speaker 1>led to two of their previous failures, to also high
<v Speaker 1>price the games and so also nickel and dime on
<v Speaker 1>something that should be packing is very scary. I feel like,
<v Speaker 1>in a very bold move, Why is your face lighting up.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm just I just didn't want that sound to
<v Speaker 3>happen again. Sorry, what's sounds Oh, it's just we got
<v Speaker 3>a little notification on the phone.
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about it. It's fine what happened.
<v Speaker 3>Don't make a big deal about it. If it was
<v Speaker 3>to be a big deal. It was just we got
<v Speaker 3>a little notification, and it bothered me that it interrupted
<v Speaker 3>your beautiful saying. We have a super chat that I
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people are responding to.
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not trying to be negative, guys. I have
<v Speaker 1>a lot of positive and I want to address a
<v Speaker 1>lot of misinformation. I know it sounds like I'm on
<v Speaker 1>a tangent right now, and a lot of us are
<v Speaker 1>still really excited for it, and I'm going to get
<v Speaker 1>to that.
<v Speaker 3>But yes, Kewie, I'm not going to try to pronounce that.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, dude. But basically, they said with five dollars,
<v Speaker 3>they said, But what should have Douger have said? I
<v Speaker 3>didn't think it was that bad as people are saying.
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people are kind of going against what
<v Speaker 3>he's saying. But I kind of see what he means.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not sure what Doug Bowser could have
<v Speaker 3>said that would have made people happy. But I'm interested
<v Speaker 3>in you know, your take.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I'm not
<v Speaker 1>a I'm not a PM management marketing guy. Well, what
<v Speaker 1>would you wanted him to say? It's a good it's
<v Speaker 1>a good point. Yeah, I don't really know what you
<v Speaker 1>can say in amidst everybody being really upset. For me,
<v Speaker 1>it's just I wouldn't say don't buy it, because that's
<v Speaker 1>how it's coming across, like, hey, if you can't afford it,
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. We already have something for you. It's
<v Speaker 1>just for me that didn't work with Xbox. And I
<v Speaker 1>think that's why I personally would be really afraid to
<v Speaker 1>say that again because of how upset people got last time.
<v Speaker 1>When people have legitimate concerns or issues over things like
<v Speaker 1>the price of Mario being eighty in a packing game
<v Speaker 1>not being free and charging for a button on the controller,
<v Speaker 1>rather than I guess what I would do is I
<v Speaker 1>would just really try to explain why those things cost
<v Speaker 1>the way they do. But when people are this upset
<v Speaker 1>and like the group mentality is it's too much. Even
<v Speaker 1>people that are excited are like, yeah, some of these
<v Speaker 1>things are too much. I would try and explain why
<v Speaker 1>their price the way they are, and not say if
<v Speaker 1>you can't afford it, don't at it in any context. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think that's and again I said this at the start.
<v Speaker 1>I think he said it in the nicest, most caring
<v Speaker 1>way possible, and it seemed to come from a place
<v Speaker 1>close to his heart where he meant it in the
<v Speaker 1>nicest way, like, hey, if you can't afford this, we're
<v Speaker 1>going to keep supporting the switch. And the way that
<v Speaker 1>Don said it sucked. The way Don said it was
<v Speaker 1>so smug and very different messaging behind it. It honestly
<v Speaker 1>felt like like stop your bitching, you know, just keep
<v Speaker 1>the old thing. But the sentiment is the same. Unfortunately,
<v Speaker 1>it's we get that it's too expensive, we get that
<v Speaker 1>you're not happy with the price, don't buy it if
<v Speaker 1>you can't afford it.
<v Speaker 3>I just think overall, I think that yeah, it shouldn't
<v Speaker 3>be kind of like, you shouldn't even mention, oh, if
<v Speaker 3>you can't afford it, don't get it.
<v Speaker 1>That shouldn't be r I think, especially having something in
<v Speaker 1>recent history to compare it to, and surely they're aware
<v Speaker 1>of that. I think you just try and justify why
<v Speaker 1>things are the way they are, Like, why is game
<v Speaker 1>chat twenty Like, tell us, maybe there's service space that
<v Speaker 1>you have to pay for, Maybe there's some reason there.
<v Speaker 1>Why is Mario Cut eighty? You're saying, and I want
<v Speaker 1>to try and find it in here, but essentially to
<v Speaker 1>boil it down, and sorry to misquote, he's saying that
<v Speaker 1>some games are like bigger and we like work hard
<v Speaker 1>on these games, so we price them. We're going to
<v Speaker 1>be pricing them variably. We're gonna decide what we think
<v Speaker 1>a game depending on how we've worked on it is worth.
<v Speaker 1>Tell us why Mario Cut's worth eighty? Then, because I
<v Speaker 1>gotta be honest with you. I love Mario Kart and
<v Speaker 1>I played it and it was fun. From what I played,
<v Speaker 1>it was fun ish. They they had the automatic steering
<v Speaker 1>on and they wouldn't let you turn it off. It
<v Speaker 1>was like baked in for the demo interesting and I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've ever tried playing Mario Kart with
<v Speaker 1>that on. It sucks. And all the gameplay that came
<v Speaker 1>out of that event, people are like, why does the
<v Speaker 1>driving look so boring? It's because you can't drive. It's
<v Speaker 1>automatically driving.
<v Speaker 3>I saw one clip of somebody playing and they did
<v Speaker 3>not drift the entire time.
<v Speaker 1>I so the whole thing that you can grind on
<v Speaker 1>the side of the courses and stuff, but with the
<v Speaker 1>automatic drift on, it'll pull you away to stop you
<v Speaker 1>from hitting the side of the course. So I could
<v Speaker 1>not do any of the grinding. And I was like
<v Speaker 1>can I can I turn And he's like no, because
<v Speaker 1>some people don't know how to play, and I'm like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it was very bizarre. I mean, it is kind of
<v Speaker 1>baby mode to turn out. So I mean, I played it,
<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't. I played it for five minutes and
<v Speaker 1>it was hard to I was when I was playing
<v Speaker 1>Mario Cut two. I was more like looking at the
<v Speaker 1>screen and the HDR and the quality of like the
<v Speaker 1>new visuals. It was hard for me to actually assess.
<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't really seeing the eighty dollars, I'll be honest,
<v Speaker 1>Like over other Mario cuts, I know there's like eighty
<v Speaker 1>something characters in this one. It's in a big open world,
<v Speaker 1>but as far as I could tell, the open world
<v Speaker 1>was just there to be there, like you could it's
<v Speaker 1>cool and you can drive to the courses, but like
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what makes this eighty. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>If I saw, like almost Tears of the Kingdom, I
<v Speaker 1>would say is almost eighty. Like if they were to
<v Speaker 1>try and justify Tears of the Kingdom to eighty, to me,
<v Speaker 1>I could almost be like, I, you know, I kind
<v Speaker 1>of get it, but this Mario cart I don't think
<v Speaker 1>they've done anything to actually justify the eighty yet. Personally,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a slippery slope.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know why games need to be
<v Speaker 3>priced so high in general. I mean, movies are still
<v Speaker 3>priced a certain way.
<v Speaker 1>I mean I know that.
<v Speaker 3>I guess movies are like dictated by the two hour mark,
<v Speaker 3>and you surely you want to play a video game
<v Speaker 3>for more than two hours. But I mean, I just
<v Speaker 3>think it becomes a slippery slope, you know.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's slippery as well. And it's also like
<v Speaker 1>a weird imaging thing too, because like Donkey Kong is seventy,
<v Speaker 1>So what are you telling us Donkey Kong's not good? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like it was weird what happened to Donkey Kong? That
<v Speaker 1>it's not an eighty dollar game?
<v Speaker 3>And would it be such a huge loss for them
<v Speaker 3>to be like, hey, this is our first game.
<v Speaker 1>Let's make it a little cheaper. Yeah, you know, it's
<v Speaker 1>our first game. Make it seventy. And again it's let's
<v Speaker 1>make it fifty or sixty or whatever the average price.
<v Speaker 1>It's I don't say. And here's another thing too, And
<v Speaker 1>this is why people are calling it greed. And I
<v Speaker 1>do understand this. We all would have been fine with
<v Speaker 1>them going up to seventy, you know, we expected it.
<v Speaker 1>The industry went up to seventy several months to a
<v Speaker 1>year ago. PlayStation five and Xbox went up to seventy.
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo held out until like a new generation, like the
<v Speaker 1>other consoles did admit generation. So for a lot of people,
<v Speaker 1>it would have sucked, you know, them going to seventy.
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's almost like thank you,
<v Speaker 1>thank you Nintendo for waiting at least, you know, waiting
<v Speaker 1>out the switch and then starting it. But rather than
<v Speaker 1>doing that, they jumped straight to eighty with the first
<v Speaker 1>game that the first company to do it. Nintendo, the
<v Speaker 1>people that have been you know, so affordable on prices,
<v Speaker 1>like and I get their prices don't come down on
<v Speaker 1>their games, but we also forgive that because we're like, well,
<v Speaker 1>the game's so quality. It's always worth what it's worth
<v Speaker 1>if they give them for so much, And they could
<v Speaker 1>have released a four hundred and fifty dollars console and
<v Speaker 1>seventy dollars games and be riding it all home to
<v Speaker 1>the bank, but instead they Sorry, I was supposed to
<v Speaker 1>be talking about misinformation, and now I'm I'm I'm paranoid
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of what they're doing doesn't sit right
<v Speaker 1>with me either. And I'm I really I'm excited for
<v Speaker 1>this console, just like I was excited for the WU
<v Speaker 1>back in the day because it's the next Nintendo thing
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a Nintendo guy and I can't wait. But
<v Speaker 1>I'm paranoid that they're wuing this again. I don't think
<v Speaker 1>it's going to get that crazy. I mean, because I
<v Speaker 1>feel like the WU was kind of like a subpar
<v Speaker 1>product at the end of the day. I feel like
<v Speaker 1>that's what the problem was. It was. I feel like
<v Speaker 1>hardware wise, it was it was underperforming.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I feel like, you know, worst case, absolute
<v Speaker 3>worst case scenario. I don't think they're going to be
<v Speaker 3>at a loss because they could always lower the price.
<v Speaker 1>That is true, and with the three ds they did that.
<v Speaker 1>Do you know about that yeah, no, exactly.
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm referring, who ultimately is not like they
<v Speaker 3>could pull another three DS.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the three DS uh came at an ex
<v Speaker 1>exorbitant I've had a hard time saying words. I got
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy brain. Came at a larger price than you would expect,
<v Speaker 1>and also it didn't have many games at launch and
<v Speaker 1>didn't have really any third party support, and people were
<v Speaker 1>confused about the three D gimmick and it bombed. And
<v Speaker 1>then several months later, I don't know how long after
<v Speaker 1>I think it was in the first year window, Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>drastically dropped the price, offered a bunch of free games,
<v Speaker 1>and they saved it. Essentially, it went from a failure
<v Speaker 1>console to selling about seventy five million, and everyone loves
<v Speaker 1>the three DS now. A lot of people don't even
<v Speaker 1>realize it actually had a dismal launch, and if Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>stick to their guns here, it could the same thing
<v Speaker 1>could happen. They might need to and we're not even
<v Speaker 1>talking about tariffs and all these delays yet, which there's
<v Speaker 1>a lot of misinformation about that, which to that effect.
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame people because it's very confusing and it's
<v Speaker 1>constantly changing yeah, star and stopping and starting and stopping.
<v Speaker 3>And I mean, you know, if you go buy the
<v Speaker 3>stock market, I mean, any little thing in the stock
<v Speaker 3>market happens every the big change happens, you know, with
<v Speaker 3>the ups and downs. So it's I feel like you
<v Speaker 3>can't be looking at that either.
<v Speaker 1>It's a stressful time. It's a scary time. And a
<v Speaker 1>lot of people now are like, as you're watching this,
<v Speaker 1>if you're watching this in the future, he just extended
<v Speaker 1>the tariffs by ninety days or something, and now people
<v Speaker 1>are getting excited again because they're like, ooh, the switch
<v Speaker 1>to launch falls in that window. I don't think it matters.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's enough. Nintendo need to plan for
<v Speaker 1>the long haul here. They could try and maybe squeeze
<v Speaker 1>out a launch and then up the price later, but
<v Speaker 1>they could also just delay the whole thing because ninety
<v Speaker 1>days it's it's very soon for something that they want
<v Speaker 1>to like do like a ten year release for They
<v Speaker 1>can't rush something in ninety days not knowing what's going
<v Speaker 1>to happen for the next decade.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we can talk about the pausing of pre order.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's stuffy.
<v Speaker 1>Stuff's directly related to the terriffs. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>they paused the pre orders and then also Canada had
<v Speaker 1>to deal with pausing pre orders too. What did they do?
<v Speaker 1>Canada is having to deal with our crappy government.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, somebody was like, because of their their president, I
<v Speaker 3>have to wait for my switch.
<v Speaker 1>That sucks. I feel bad for you. Also, I feel
<v Speaker 1>bad for me because that was my backup plan. You
<v Speaker 1>got some Canadian friends. Yeah, Nintendo pause that too, and uh,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, unfortunately it makes sense on Nintendo side because
<v Speaker 1>with essentially it's all North America, right, and so they
<v Speaker 1>want to time the release across the continent. They don't
<v Speaker 1>just want to, you know, they want to They want
<v Speaker 1>to time that. And also I'm sure it creates other
<v Speaker 1>conflicts with now Americans going and trying to buy it
<v Speaker 1>from Canada, which is probably going to mess up their
<v Speaker 1>everything in their back ends. Like I don't it's just confusing,
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure that's why they did it. Let's so.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Finally, on Doug Bowser and the price, So if you
<v Speaker 1>don't know, Doug Brown, Bowser essentially said that they're doing
<v Speaker 1>variable pricing, so every game is going to have a
<v Speaker 1>variable price eighty dollars, right, now is the highest. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>we only really have that, and I guess Donkey Kong,
<v Speaker 1>which is seventy. You can't really look at anything else
<v Speaker 1>as a good example, like I know we have some
<v Speaker 1>other eighties, but it's because like Tiers of the Kingdom
<v Speaker 1>gets an upgrade for ten, it's not a new game.
<v Speaker 1>Breath of the Wild gets an upgrade. Also, there's another
<v Speaker 1>weird thing with Breath of the Wild. So there was
<v Speaker 1>a lot of misinformation around the Breath of the Wild
<v Speaker 1>and Tiers of the Kingdom cuts. For a long time.
<v Speaker 1>People were really upset. I don't know if we have
<v Speaker 1>that in here, do we It's physical, yes, somewhere, let
<v Speaker 1>me see if I can find it. Essentially, if you
<v Speaker 1>can find it, let me know, give me the number.
<v Speaker 1>But essentially people were thinking, according to oh, I actually
<v Speaker 1>I found it. I got it. You can, you can,
<v Speaker 1>you can show so you're not gonna be able to
<v Speaker 1>read this fine print. But again this was a case
<v Speaker 1>of people reading fine print and drawing conclusions before this
<v Speaker 1>stuff is actually here. So if I can, I know,
<v Speaker 1>I'm flip flopping on being angry and also being angry
<v Speaker 1>at people who are angry. It's a confusing time hear
<v Speaker 1>me out, there's a lot going on. This is more
<v Speaker 1>of people reading fine print and drawing their own conclusions,
<v Speaker 1>and this stuff, I feel like, is what's distracting from
<v Speaker 1>the actual issue and situation. And people were reading this
<v Speaker 1>and assuming that the Switch To Enhanced Edition games are
<v Speaker 1>just the original Switch version and they don't have any
<v Speaker 1>of the enhanced stuff on it, and you have to
<v Speaker 1>put that in and then you download it, so you're
<v Speaker 1>rebuying the same game essentially, which, to be honest, it's
<v Speaker 1>kind of apples and oranges, really, but it would be nice,
<v Speaker 1>I guess if I had to choose a preference if
<v Speaker 1>the cut had the download stuff on it already, And
<v Speaker 1>a Nintendo spokesperson confirms this was as of today that
<v Speaker 1>well at least this tweet was today, that physical Switch
<v Speaker 1>To Edition games have the original Switch game and the
<v Speaker 1>upgrade pack the same game card, no download code, no
<v Speaker 1>download required, exclusively Switched to game cards. And I guarantee
<v Speaker 1>you there's ign Kotaku whatever articles from the last week
<v Speaker 1>saying that this wasn't the case, or at least implying
<v Speaker 1>it based on the thing here, which is just more
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's like I know it feels like Nintendo's making
<v Speaker 1>all these really bad decisions. But if we can focus,
<v Speaker 1>the bad decisions are the price, Yeah, like it's the price. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Everything else is a lot of stuff. We're going to
<v Speaker 1>have to wait and see. Although I'm gonna flip flop
<v Speaker 1>and come back on your site now. Although the Breath
<v Speaker 1>of the Wild addition, yeah, doesn't have the Breath of
<v Speaker 1>the Wild DLC on it, so you'd have to download
<v Speaker 1>it when it comes out. You're saying, well, yes, but
<v Speaker 1>also if you don't have it already, it means you
<v Speaker 1>have to buy it. That's crazy. So this Breath of
<v Speaker 1>the Wild game that came out in twenty eighteen, it
<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of DLC, right, It had like a
<v Speaker 1>Master Sore trial mode that you could go and do.
<v Speaker 1>It had a motorbike. Did you play any of that? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think I played the motorbike. Okay. It added like
<v Speaker 1>a whole heap of content. Yeah, this is just the
<v Speaker 1>base game. That's crazy. Which that is actually bananas. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>like you can't add that. Like, it's very clear. See,
<v Speaker 1>I'm back on your side. We're back. We're gonna be
<v Speaker 1>flip flopping a lot today. It's very clear that Nintendo.
<v Speaker 1>And this is something that I don't know if it's
<v Speaker 1>in here. Do we have the thing in here about
<v Speaker 1>Reggie and the Wii Sports. No, I'll just paraphrase. So
<v Speaker 1>this is something that Kit and Christer I think talked about.
<v Speaker 1>It's circling back around again right now, but back with
<v Speaker 1>the Wei Apparently it was Reggie that championed putting we
<v Speaker 1>Sports in the Wii box as a pack in game.
<v Speaker 1>He thought that should be a free game, and insanely,
<v Speaker 1>what a great idea, by the way, I mean, that
<v Speaker 1>was a large key reason don't worry about it, a
<v Speaker 1>large key reason why we used Launch was so successful,
<v Speaker 1>and everyone has great memories of playing the Wii and
<v Speaker 1>the Wei Sports. That was his idea. Because Nintendo's idea
<v Speaker 1>has apparently always been and to some extent it makes
<v Speaker 1>sense until they go overboard with it. If we've worked
<v Speaker 1>on something, no one should get it for free. Like
<v Speaker 1>if we've developed something, if we've made something, then no
<v Speaker 1>matter what it is, no one should get that thing
<v Speaker 1>for free. It's not like a great mentality, but I
<v Speaker 1>get that you want to get paid for what you're
<v Speaker 1>working on. It's just in some cases it is nice
<v Speaker 1>to get things for free, and it makes sense to
<v Speaker 1>get things for free. Obviously, an instructional pamphlet video game
<v Speaker 1>for a console that you're already spending four hundred and
<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars on would be nice to get, Like it's
<v Speaker 1>barely even a game, but also a full priced you're
<v Speaker 1>charging seventy dollars again for this, at this point, eight
<v Speaker 1>year old game. You could put in the DLC. Yeah
<v Speaker 1>you could. That's like almost a given. Like you're calling
<v Speaker 1>this the switch to Edition, like an enhanced addition, but
<v Speaker 1>it's missing content that came out years ago because you
<v Speaker 1>want people to buy it again. Yeah, because you don't
<v Speaker 1>want to give it away for free, because nothing Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>makes is given away from free. And again I understand
<v Speaker 1>the mentality, but in some cases like this, it's not
<v Speaker 1>doing anybody any favors. I don't know, I don't know why.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, nothing is for free.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know it's publicity too, I mean it's
<v Speaker 3>it's having people try your product.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's nothing, you're you're not going to get ze
<v Speaker 1>very little victories. Yeah, it's like, Okay, you're chuging four
<v Speaker 1>to fifty for a console. Okay, you're charging eighty dollars
<v Speaker 1>for Mario Kart. But at least you put the doc
<v Speaker 1>in to Breath of the Wild. At least we got that,
<v Speaker 1>you know. But there's no at leasts here. I think
<v Speaker 1>the only at least I can think of is for
<v Speaker 1>some reason, they've done a bundle with Mario Kart that
<v Speaker 1>saves you thirty bucks. Yeah, that's the only at least
<v Speaker 1>And I'm really not sure why they're even doing that
<v Speaker 1>based on everything else that they've done, Like they're willing
<v Speaker 1>to bundle in Mario Kart and have you saved thirty bucks,
<v Speaker 1>but then not willing to bundle into ten dollars instructional
<v Speaker 1>pamphlet and have you saved ten bucks? Yeah? I mean
<v Speaker 1>two things.
<v Speaker 3>First of all, I don't like this variable pricing because
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that makes it more like obvious and
<v Speaker 3>more like greedy, because it's like, of course, you're gonna
<v Speaker 3>want to raise the price of Mario Kart, regardless of
<v Speaker 3>if it's a better game or not, because you know
<v Speaker 3>it's going to sell. You know it's going to be
<v Speaker 3>your best selling game. So that that's number one. And
<v Speaker 3>then number two is you know how the PS five
<v Speaker 3>had that sort of like this is what's inside the
<v Speaker 3>PS five game?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>And the Astro was that free? Yeah? Okay, so what's
<v Speaker 1>the excuse the first one? I think it was a
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation four or did PlayStation five come with one? I
<v Speaker 1>don't remember. Chat let me know. My life is a blow.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the Astro, it was like a pack in
<v Speaker 1>free game, one hundred percent. They then they because that
<v Speaker 1>game did so well and people liked it so much
<v Speaker 1>because it was free and they played it, they made
<v Speaker 1>a full game and they charged for it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is a that's a good way of doing it,
<v Speaker 3>and exactly that, and then exactly that's not free. You're
<v Speaker 3>doing publicity for the game that comes out later. I
<v Speaker 3>think there's just there's too many, too many things that
<v Speaker 3>have happened on this launch that h I want to
<v Speaker 3>almost say Unnintendo like from what we've been used to
<v Speaker 3>from this last couple generations.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree.
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think that it's supposed to be, at
<v Speaker 3>least from what my understanding of a Nintendo product, since
<v Speaker 3>the Wii is it's a family, family friendly product. It's
<v Speaker 3>for it's the one that everybody has in their house,
<v Speaker 3>so it's crazy that it's it's trying to match pricing
<v Speaker 3>with the other consoles.
<v Speaker 1>It's not even matching, is going above? Yeah, going like
<v Speaker 1>you've been the underdog all this time and something you've
<v Speaker 1>had in your favor is pricing and now you're going above. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And like Astro's playing Room on PlayStation five. Yeah. My
<v Speaker 1>I still with the eighty dollars. I still want to
<v Speaker 1>wait for the direct It's a week away, and I
<v Speaker 1>still am holding reservation that they can explain the eighty.
<v Speaker 1>Now maybe that's just the Nintendo fan in me, and
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's a little bit of biasm talking, but again,
<v Speaker 1>I think the only thing that can explain that to
<v Speaker 1>me is if there's some sort of like lifelong DC
<v Speaker 1>plan included, Like it's ten extra dollars or technically twenty
<v Speaker 1>from what we're used to, but we're going to be
<v Speaker 1>supporting this thing and releasing tracks and carts and races
<v Speaker 1>and stuff moving forward. And it's like, okay, so this
<v Speaker 1>is like a really like you're going in on this
<v Speaker 1>and you want an extra ten like as an investment
<v Speaker 1>almost and everything else is going to be free. Uh Okay,
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. I could honestly get around that, because
<v Speaker 1>then if that also means that you know and hear
<v Speaker 1>me out. I'm just thinking out loud right now for
<v Speaker 1>the first time. Next year new animal crossing, what was
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest complaints with animal crossing. They dropped it.
<v Speaker 1>They did like one or two like doc packs, and
<v Speaker 1>then they moved on and it was like, you could
<v Speaker 1>do so much more with this. Maybe in their brains
<v Speaker 1>they were like, well, we've sold the game and it
<v Speaker 1>was sixty bucks and we kind of have to move
<v Speaker 1>on to the next thing. What if the next animal
<v Speaker 1>crossing is eighty bucks? But listen, but you're already shaking
<v Speaker 1>your head. I know, I'm just talking out loud and
<v Speaker 1>I'm running up by the chat. You can say no,
<v Speaker 1>but they're like, but we're gonna support this one for
<v Speaker 1>the next like ten five ten years, five years, let's
<v Speaker 1>say five years window and we're gonna keep adding like
<v Speaker 1>every week you'll get something new every like season, they'll
<v Speaker 1>be new. It won't be the same season like blah
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah for the next five years.
<v Speaker 3>But it's eighty dollars. Yeah, I mean, I think that
<v Speaker 3>would be fair because it's what we're talking about. We
<v Speaker 3>got a five dollars from Barry a little while ago,
<v Speaker 3>Mario Kart eight plus DLC is more expensive than Mario
<v Speaker 3>Kart World, according to them. I don't know, I can't
<v Speaker 3>fact check that for you right now, but I mean
<v Speaker 3>I can fact check that for you right now. But
<v Speaker 3>that's what they're saying.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a very solid point in that with
<v Speaker 1>the DC it's more expensive. So does Mario Cutt World
<v Speaker 1>have that much content? Yeah? I feel like, is it
<v Speaker 1>comparative to the base game of Mario Karte or is
<v Speaker 1>it comparative to all of the DLC, Because yeah, even
<v Speaker 1>with like Smash, if you were to price out every
<v Speaker 1>character we bought it five dollars a pop or whatever
<v Speaker 1>it was, how much was Smash? You know? So are
<v Speaker 1>we getting the new Smash will be eighty dollars? But
<v Speaker 1>then every character they add is going to be free.
<v Speaker 1>I'm good with that. Saves you money? Yeah, no, I agree, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just is that going to be the case?
<v Speaker 1>Probably not.
<v Speaker 3>It's just that Stuff's also again, it's another slippery slope
<v Speaker 3>because remember how many games came out Xbox One era
<v Speaker 3>that the DLC was already on the disc. Yeah, I know, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>and then they released the DLC like that later.
<v Speaker 1>That was one of the first times me and my
<v Speaker 1>friends got really pissed. It was a gizz of war.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was Judgment or three or something. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but it released with the upcoming DLC expansions on the
<v Speaker 1>disc and then months later you had to pay for it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it's crazy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It
<v Speaker 3>it gets to slippertty slow. You know, you don't know.
<v Speaker 1>There's a verified check mark in chat, and I just
<v Speaker 1>want to try and read what they're saying. So six
<v Speaker 1>ninety is six ninety whe or without tax, the seven
<v Speaker 1>hundred figure remains ninety five percent accurate. What are we
<v Speaker 1>talking about? Who are we talking to? What's going on here?
<v Speaker 3>I think somebody in the chat had said seven hundred
<v Speaker 3>is after the tariffs, So let's I don't, Oh, this
<v Speaker 3>is gonna get messy.
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't try and calculate how much it's gonna cost
<v Speaker 1>with tariffs because we don't really know how tariffs are
<v Speaker 1>going to work. Yeah, we don't really know. Uh, if
<v Speaker 1>it's literally like I say, it's one hundred percent tariff,
<v Speaker 1>We didn't really know if three hundred becomes six hundred,
<v Speaker 1>or if it's one hundred percent tariff on the parts
<v Speaker 1>that were included, and then the technical it's only blah
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and then maybe it's only one hundred dollars more.
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't try and do math here. It could also
<v Speaker 1>be even more expensive because then they I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>they could it could be anything. Norway is seven hundred
<v Speaker 1>no seven in Norway. Oh, maybe that's how much it's
<v Speaker 1>worth in USD. They're saying, wait, why is it seven
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars in Norway? Oh we're on a home. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>see this is gonna get We're on a No. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about nobody when it comes to when
<v Speaker 1>it comes to Norway, I know no I know no
<v Speaker 1>way about no norbody, no body about no Way. All right,
<v Speaker 1>what else can we pull here? Switch to China if
<v Speaker 1>we can get ahead of this one. I saw today
<v Speaker 1>that Nintendo switch tos have been and this is also
<v Speaker 1>like very confusing if you can cut to this. Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>has postponed the release of Switched To in China indefinitely.
<v Speaker 1>Dextero releasing this and then just saying for find out
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why click on this for find out the
<v Speaker 1>reasons My right wrong fifteen thousand likes. You know, people
<v Speaker 1>are going to assume this is because of like tariffs
<v Speaker 1>or something. Isn't it made in China? That is actually
<v Speaker 1>pretty funny, is it?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>That is actually a good point. The tariffs are being
<v Speaker 1>problematic to gamers as well. Trump did this by causing
<v Speaker 1>China to retaliate. They picked a really bad time to
<v Speaker 1>launch this console. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, So people
<v Speaker 1>are obviously assuming that this is tariff related and it's not.
<v Speaker 1>This is completely irrelevant, it's not even worth looking into
<v Speaker 1>for us. But apparently China has weird laws and regulations
<v Speaker 1>around video game consoles. The same thing happened in twenty
<v Speaker 1>eighteen with the switch. I think the switch to the
<v Speaker 1>Switch one came out two years later in China than
<v Speaker 1>it did Japan, And it looks like the same thing's
<v Speaker 1>happening again. It's completely unrelated to everything else. It's some
<v Speaker 1>weird law and rules and regulations with China and the
<v Speaker 1>switch to and video games actually just video games. So
<v Speaker 1>all right, if we can, if we can, we can
<v Speaker 1>pull it back a little here. I did do a
<v Speaker 1>tweet over here on Twitter, and you can go tweet.
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a little bit of time left asking people,
<v Speaker 1>are you still excited and hyped for the switch to release? Now?
<v Speaker 1>This actually gave me some hope. I'm not gonna lie.
<v Speaker 1>Sixty seven point seven percent of people did say yes again. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is my audience, you know, for the most part.
<v Speaker 1>So like, I don't know how accurate this is, but
<v Speaker 1>it's nice to know that my audience is mostly still
<v Speaker 1>excited or fifty to fifty. And I want to stress
<v Speaker 1>that I am still very excited. I'm just nervous about
<v Speaker 1>the business side of it all because I want this
<v Speaker 1>thing to be a success for a lot of reasons,
<v Speaker 1>and not just like for my career, which obviously, yes,
<v Speaker 1>that's a big thing. I'm having a kid right now. Nintendo,
<v Speaker 1>please don't botch this, but also the being a WEU
<v Speaker 1>fan and a we you owner sucked. It sucked like
<v Speaker 1>it had no games. Uh, it just didn't go anywhere.
<v Speaker 1>It flopped, you know. I want this to be as
<v Speaker 1>successful as possible, not just for my career and not
<v Speaker 1>just you know, for that side, but because I'm a
<v Speaker 1>gamer and because I love Nintendo, and I want this
<v Speaker 1>thing to be successed so that we can get another Metroid,
<v Speaker 1>so that we can get you know, another animal crossing,
<v Speaker 1>which will probably get anyway, but so that we can
<v Speaker 1>get X y Z thing and that so we get
<v Speaker 1>third party companies look at the Switch and be like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>look how successful this is. We should make an exclusive
<v Speaker 1>game for it. Oh look how much success from Soft had.
<v Speaker 1>Let's make our exclusive Nintendo Switch to game. Like, that's
<v Speaker 1>where I want to be with this thing. That's mostly
<v Speaker 1>why I want this to be successful. So, yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>not just my own invested interest, which I can't deny
<v Speaker 1>I obviously have. But at the same time, you know,
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean that I'm gonna lie, and it also
<v Speaker 1>isn't why I want this to be a success Solely.
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a success so that we can
<v Speaker 1>have a nice hecking eight ten years with Nintendo and
<v Speaker 1>not have to be the guy justifying to all his
<v Speaker 1>friends why he has a we you you know, because
<v Speaker 1>I was that guy. I was that guy. I was like, no, guys,
<v Speaker 1>it's really good. Trust me, it's really fun. You're gonna
<v Speaker 1>love pigment. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's going to be that. I don't
<v Speaker 3>think it's going to be that disastrous, but I feel
<v Speaker 3>like they will feel a hit on launch.
<v Speaker 1>You never do until it is though. That's the thing, Like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>when DS was selling like hotcakes and the Wii was
<v Speaker 1>selling like hotcakes, it's almost like bizarre to think like, well,
<v Speaker 1>there's no way than that thing.
<v Speaker 2>Wow.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Also, have you noticed that there are things that they've
<v Speaker 3>like hit a bump on is always like it's like
<v Speaker 3>the sequel to something that was great. So we're doing
<v Speaker 3>this again with the switch.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's another big thing people to pointed out is that, uh,
<v Speaker 1>and I thought this would be the one to break it,
<v Speaker 1>but now I'm so worried that every time Nintendo has
<v Speaker 1>a success, the next thing flops like clockwork every time.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what you're saying is correct, But I feel like
<v Speaker 3>it's not even so much that it's the it's the
<v Speaker 3>next thing.
<v Speaker 1>It's that it's the sequel to make you know what
<v Speaker 1>I mean what you're saying. Yeah, so the we U
<v Speaker 1>and the three DS.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the regular DS did amazing, yeah, and then
<v Speaker 3>the three Yes didn't do it. And I think it's
<v Speaker 3>because of this like hype around the fact that you know,
<v Speaker 3>it's what you have but better and then we.
<v Speaker 1>Can also say it you know there and this is
<v Speaker 1>thanks for bringing this up. Over the last few years,
<v Speaker 1>I've made a lot of predictions about the Switch too,
<v Speaker 1>and I want to not right now, but we have
<v Speaker 1>some that are fun to go back and look at
<v Speaker 1>of me predicting certain things, and I think for the
<v Speaker 1>most part, I was like right on the ball, and
<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to make a video with everything
<v Speaker 1>that I got right, because I've been talking about four
<v Speaker 1>K sixty for like four or five years now. One
<v Speaker 1>thing early on, early on, and you can Bob shared
<v Speaker 1>it with me actually on the podcast. There's an episode
<v Speaker 1>about the switch not having backwards compatibility the Switch too
<v Speaker 1>until like two years ago, when Bob changed my mind.
<v Speaker 1>I was steadfast that the switch to would not have
<v Speaker 1>backwards compatibility, would not have it. And the reason why
<v Speaker 1>I felt that is because the three DS failed and
<v Speaker 1>the WEIU failed and they both had backwards compatibility. And
<v Speaker 1>with the Switch, they started from scratch, they went away
<v Speaker 1>from discs, they had cartridges, they launched with seven games
<v Speaker 1>and that was it. And look at it now and
<v Speaker 1>I was like, why would they Why would they do that?
<v Speaker 1>Why would they? Why would they what reason could they
<v Speaker 1>have to not start from scratch again and to try
<v Speaker 1>this for a third time. But then at some point
<v Speaker 1>and obviously it's happening, so it started to make sense
<v Speaker 1>to me, and then Nintendo even confirmed it, and I
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, but this time it makes sense.
<v Speaker 3>I is posting a bunch of confusing tweets about how
<v Speaker 3>it's like emulating the switch So maybe it was like
<v Speaker 3>a decision they made like halfway through the process of
<v Speaker 3>the switch ton that.
<v Speaker 1>So I probably should have read up on that because
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about it, and I am not
<v Speaker 1>well versed. But that is another thing that people are
<v Speaker 1>getting upset about that it's just emulating, so the switch
<v Speaker 1>to apparently when you put in a switch one game,
<v Speaker 1>it's just emulating the game. It's not playing the game.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why this matters at all. Bob has
<v Speaker 1>told me that this doesn't matter, and Bob is the
<v Speaker 1>king of emulating.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.
<v Speaker 1>If anything, he probably thinks it's sick.
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's cool, it's I think it.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like a somewhat similar thing. Maybe I
<v Speaker 1>could be wrong. No, this is probably different with like Xbox.
<v Speaker 1>When you put in an old Xbox game, it can't
<v Speaker 1>actually play it, but it knows what it is. So
<v Speaker 1>it kind of like proxies a download for it and
<v Speaker 1>then you put the get you put it in to
<v Speaker 1>play it, but it's actually playing off the hardware and
<v Speaker 1>not the disc, and maybe it's a similar thing. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. People were upset about that. I actually don't
<v Speaker 1>think that matters. I don't know why they've done it
<v Speaker 1>that way. It must have made sense for them. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>it's easier to emulate the games. Maybe they can get
<v Speaker 1>more out of the games if they emulate them. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>it's less expensive to do it that way. Which, let's
<v Speaker 1>be real good. I mean, if we can't tell the difference,
<v Speaker 1>why does it matter? Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean what I'm saying is though that maybe
<v Speaker 3>they kind of they did start from scratch and then
<v Speaker 3>this was sort of like something that they decided to
<v Speaker 3>do last minute. So maybe that's why it's emulated. But
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I can't tell you. I didn't read
<v Speaker 3>the article.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's why, by the way, I was so
<v Speaker 1>steadfast on not emulating, sorry, not being back was compatible
<v Speaker 1>for all that time. It is because it just felt
<v Speaker 1>like it was going to fail. Someone in chat said,
<v Speaker 1>variable pricing means not all games will be eighty Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's a good point, and I should clarify that there
<v Speaker 1>is a realm. Let's humor it. There is a realm
<v Speaker 1>where this is good. I don't think so, but there
<v Speaker 1>is a realm where this is good. Let's say they're
<v Speaker 1>really honest and Maria Catt World is eighty, and sure,
<v Speaker 1>that's I'm sure it's going to be great. Then they
<v Speaker 1>make Animal Crossing, let's use that for an example again,
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, maybe this is only sixty, so
<v Speaker 1>we've spent ten more here, but we've saved ten here.
<v Speaker 1>And maybe with Nintendo games they can do a really
<v Speaker 1>good job at striking a balance so that when a
<v Speaker 1>game comes out they really surprise us. The next Mario
<v Speaker 1>and Luigi game that's fifty, the next three D Mario World,
<v Speaker 1>we're back up to eighty, the next Pickman game where
<v Speaker 1>we're at sixty, you know, And maybe it all like
<v Speaker 1>balances out and this is like a better way. But
<v Speaker 1>to Max's point, and to a lot of people's point,
<v Speaker 1>it is just a slippery slope. And it's not Nintendo's
<v Speaker 1>fault if they introduce this and then PlayStation steals it
<v Speaker 1>and they start doing it, and they agreedy and manipulate it.
<v Speaker 1>That's not Nintendo's fault if Nintendo does it well and
<v Speaker 1>they're respectful about it. But it's hard to have confidence
<v Speaker 1>in that when they're charging us ten dollars for an
<v Speaker 1>extrauction pamphlet. So it's like, where is your head at
<v Speaker 1>with pricing? Like what are you deeming things worth? Like
<v Speaker 1>why is Mario catt World eighty? I'm still looking for
<v Speaker 1>that answer, and I'm hoping to find it next week.
<v Speaker 1>I don't see it yet, and I've played the game.
<v Speaker 1>I don't see the eighty yet.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I just think that, like I said, it's
<v Speaker 3>a slippery slope because it's like, I want to do
<v Speaker 3>that to every game. I want to know why every game,
<v Speaker 3>Why every Call of Duty releases at sixty dollars?
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? When when it's clear they're
<v Speaker 1>using the same engine. Why is every w W two
<v Speaker 1>K eighteen or two K whatever game the same game
<v Speaker 1>the next year and another price? Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, that's I mean, That's why it's it's it's gonna
<v Speaker 3>be a slippery slip because you could literally do that
<v Speaker 3>with every Doug.
<v Speaker 1>Bowser, my guy, where have you been? By the way,
<v Speaker 1>President of Nintendo bidening it up for the last eight
<v Speaker 1>We'll have a long Reggie's been gone sleepy, Doug over here,
<v Speaker 1>where have you been? Just popping your head out to
<v Speaker 1>let us know about this variable pricing? What makes Breadth
<v Speaker 1>of the Wild now seventy? Yeah, you want to talk
<v Speaker 1>about variable pricing. What did you do to make that
<v Speaker 1>re release seventy? Let's variable price that bad boy. Let's
<v Speaker 1>variable price the doc into the game. Let's variable price
<v Speaker 1>it down to sixty to fifty, like exactly.
<v Speaker 3>Let's variable price you know the Super Mario three D
<v Speaker 3>Land or whatever the one is that's on the switch.
<v Speaker 3>I think that's still sixty. I think that's still yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean well not even like your good point, but
<v Speaker 1>not even like the old games. You know, if you're
<v Speaker 1>re releasing it now like a re release, what's the
<v Speaker 1>variable pricing that put Tiers of the Kingdom back up
<v Speaker 1>at eighty? You know, I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>It's it does feel kind of greedy, It feels kind
<v Speaker 3>of you know, pickpockety. It doesn't feel honestly, I miss
<v Speaker 3>I miss ease Board because then I could do the
<v Speaker 3>bowser laugh. Yeah, we talk about them. Well, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 3>bring those sounds down.
<v Speaker 1>God Again, there's things that like I would have been like, fine, fine,
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't done this, this, and this, I was like, fine,
<v Speaker 1>I got to pay ten dollars for the enhanced edition.
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, why do I I'm paying
<v Speaker 1>four hundred and fifty to buy your new console that
<v Speaker 1>you're adding the four K sixty into. Why do I?
<v Speaker 1>Why do I then also have to buy the upgrade
<v Speaker 1>to play my games in four K sixty? I bought
<v Speaker 1>the upgrade, it was the console. Whyight I have to
<v Speaker 1>pay for Breath of the Wild to be in four K?
<v Speaker 1>And also it's kind of crazy.
<v Speaker 3>To me that the digital and physical we still haven't
<v Speaker 3>seen like any sort of price difference in that, because,
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you would think it would cost them more
<v Speaker 3>to release the physical.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, yeah, that's a yeah, that's a whole thing.
<v Speaker 2>I know.
<v Speaker 1>It's just just sort of funny. They really shot themselves
<v Speaker 1>in the foot with this eighty because it made everybody
<v Speaker 1>look at everything else under a microscope. Ye I'm telling
<v Speaker 1>you right now, we would not be in this position
<v Speaker 1>if Mario kartt wasn't eighty. You know what, I have
<v Speaker 1>a belief.
<v Speaker 3>I have a belief that it's my theory that if
<v Speaker 3>they released Mario Kart at a lower price, like let's
<v Speaker 3>say sixty or seventy like Donkey Kong, and released Donkey
<v Speaker 3>Kong at eighty, I don't even think we'd be having
<v Speaker 3>this conversation.
<v Speaker 1>Seriously. I think it's just because I have.
<v Speaker 3>An interesting point, think that Mario Kart, that every nobody
<v Speaker 3>will agree that Mario Kart a cart game is worth
<v Speaker 3>eighty dollars, but an adventure game like Breath of the
<v Speaker 3>arsting point.
<v Speaker 1>And it's also because this Donkey Kong is new, so
<v Speaker 1>it's like exactly not. We don't understand any of it,
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh, what's going to be in that
<v Speaker 1>game to make it worth eighty? Yeah, and we'd be
<v Speaker 1>excited if we had a good point, But why, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. If everyone to be excited, Yeah, it would
<v Speaker 1>still be mad about that. I get your I think
<v Speaker 1>mentality would be different, and I think people would be
<v Speaker 1>more willing to like give that a shot. I think
<v Speaker 1>Mario Cutt, knowing what we know about what Mario Cutt
<v Speaker 1>is and seeing what we've seen from Mario Kart, it's
<v Speaker 1>like what.
<v Speaker 3>I hit recording, Okay, Hello is anybody there.
<v Speaker 1>Should I do that intro again?
<v Speaker 2>No, but.
<v Speaker 1>Right click on the obs window like the picture you're
<v Speaker 1>looking at, and hit like a full screen monitor or
<v Speaker 1>something full projector previously, and then do wholly whatever it says. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 1>all right, sorry about that. The laptop died. It should
<v Speaker 1>be good. This actually it should be fine. If we
<v Speaker 1>just keep going. This should still be the one episode.
<v Speaker 1>They'll probably just be like a blackout in the middle. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>it might even just cut Honestly, am I just cut
<v Speaker 1>it out? People watching this late? It might not even
<v Speaker 1>know what happened. What happened. Yeah, we're back, guys, Sorry
<v Speaker 1>about that. The other the good laptop died for some reason.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah we're back. Sorry guys, laptops fired. It's the
<v Speaker 1>lagging Antendo switch to camera, Yeah it is. Yeah, they
<v Speaker 1>had enough. I also realized there's no games at launch
<v Speaker 1>that use the camera.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, is the camera even going to be
<v Speaker 3>used for a gameplay purpose?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be used in Mario Party Jamboree, but
<v Speaker 1>that comes out two months after launch. Explain to me
<v Speaker 1>again how it's going to be used if you don't mind,
<v Speaker 1>so in Mario Party Jamboree, they're adding in DC that
<v Speaker 1>uses the camera like an ioy. There's all mini where
<v Speaker 1>you're on the screen and you'll interest in things. Well,
<v Speaker 1>you know that comes out two months after the console launch.
<v Speaker 1>So on launch, what are you gonna do with the camera.
<v Speaker 1>I just just talked to your friends.
<v Speaker 3>I guess did you know that the uh, the little
<v Speaker 3>Piranha plant if you want to bring that up too,
<v Speaker 3>But the Piranha plant camera, the little stem that connects
<v Speaker 3>to the vase. You can take that out and then
<v Speaker 3>it's got a USB C and then you can plug
<v Speaker 3>it on the USB C port.
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's actually really cool. Isn't that cool? A lunic
<v Speaker 1>in chat said, would when are we getting it? I
<v Speaker 1>made an entire video using the switch to camera. That's
<v Speaker 1>a sick idea, and I'm stealing it if you don't mind.
<v Speaker 1>Actually i'm locking that in right now. I don't remember where.
<v Speaker 1>Oh I think we were saying uh yeah for AVP.
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's saying it in the chante. I'm going to keep
<v Speaker 1>stressing that point home because I really believe it. Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>fans are suckers. We are will pay for anything. Enhanced
<v Speaker 1>diitions ten dollars more, all right? I guess, let me
<v Speaker 1>bend over and then daddy Nintendo a packing game being
<v Speaker 1>ten dollars. All right, I mean I'm not gonna buy it,
<v Speaker 1>but if that's what you want to charge for it,
<v Speaker 1>bit weird. You know, the console being four hundred and fifty, Well,
<v Speaker 1>you gave us four K sixty frames. We've been asking
<v Speaker 1>by that for a long time, so let me unzip
<v Speaker 1>my pants for you, you know what I mean. God,
<v Speaker 1>but as soon as they hit that eighty, everything else
<v Speaker 1>became not okay, and now they can't catch a break.
<v Speaker 1>And rightfully, sir.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, I think that this has been a
<v Speaker 3>long time coming, like you're saying, and I think that
<v Speaker 3>it's been crazy that they never lower Have you noticed
<v Speaker 3>they never lower the price of any Nintendo first party
<v Speaker 3>game ever, no matter how long it's been out. I know,
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of okay with that. Why are you a
<v Speaker 3>Nintendo shill?
<v Speaker 1>No? Because, for one, I buy the games when they
<v Speaker 1>come out. Yeah. True, Nintendo's whole thing is like that,
<v Speaker 1>well up until now. I know we're all mad at
<v Speaker 1>them right now, but up until now, the whole thing
<v Speaker 1>is we work on a game till it's done, and
<v Speaker 1>then it's the quality game that we wanted it to be,
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to charge you for it. And it's like,
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's the trade off, And then what's the alternative?
<v Speaker 1>You get games like Ubisoft games that are rushed out
<v Speaker 1>in a year. They come out at seventy dollars. If
<v Speaker 1>you buy it, you're just wasting your money because in
<v Speaker 1>a week it'll be twenty bucks. Like, it's just a
<v Speaker 1>different culture. And I don't think that it. I don't
<v Speaker 1>think it makes a healthy ecosystem of video game development
<v Speaker 1>to video game consumer. And I think this, I think
<v Speaker 1>this works, and I think up until now, I know
<v Speaker 1>it sounds silly, but I think it's like, all right,
<v Speaker 1>they work hard on their games, they're worth the money.
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like, yeah, why sell it for twenty bucks?
<v Speaker 1>You know, it doesn't It doesn't even make sense for
<v Speaker 1>a game as good as Tears of the Kingdom to
<v Speaker 1>like be twenty unless it's like Black Friday or something.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I don't expect those kind of games
<v Speaker 3>to go down to twenty or even thirty.
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I mean they do cut They do
<v Speaker 1>forties and fifties sometimes like holiday season discounts. Yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Up until now, I haven't ever had a
<v Speaker 1>problem with that, and I feel like the alternative is
<v Speaker 1>what what I just said would like Ubisoft. And it's like,
<v Speaker 1>you know, the more money that Nintendo gets for these games,
<v Speaker 1>the more that they can afford to take five years
<v Speaker 1>for the next one. You know, if they pull, if
<v Speaker 1>they spend five years on something, it comes out, then
<v Speaker 1>it's on sale for twenty bucks that year. It's like
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna think to themselves, Okay, how can we speed
<v Speaker 1>up development next time? You know, how can we take
<v Speaker 1>this five year development down to down to two years
<v Speaker 1>because we're not seeing the profit return. Whereas right now
<v Speaker 1>they work five years, they know what they're gonna sell
<v Speaker 1>that game for, they can project their budget based on that,
<v Speaker 1>and they can work within that scope. And again, until now,
<v Speaker 1>we've got games like Breath of the Wild, Mario three
<v Speaker 1>d Otis three D World, I don't know what I'm saying,
<v Speaker 1>Mario Odyssey, Mario Catt, Animal Crossing, all of these like
<v Speaker 1>genre defining games that are like the peak, Like the
<v Speaker 1>best live sim you can get is Animal Crossing. The
<v Speaker 1>best Action adventure APG you can get a Zelda. So
<v Speaker 1>like until now, this system is working, which is why
<v Speaker 1>I've always been fine with it me personally. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>you can always buy it secondhand of a guy for
<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks. If you want.
<v Speaker 3>Jay Websey with two dollars says, just use game Fly
<v Speaker 3>like me, what are you from twenty ten?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I mean. There's all the ways. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think it is Craigslist.
<v Speaker 3>It's not going to work with the with the download disc, right,
<v Speaker 3>will that even work?
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what game fly is. I was just
<v Speaker 1>agreeing with you. You don't know what gameplay is.
<v Speaker 4>No.
<v Speaker 1>I did a sponsor for them when my channel was
<v Speaker 1>like baby brand New.
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying, But that was it was a
<v Speaker 3>physical exchange, mailing like Blockbusters.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with mail Netflix, I guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 1>All right. There's a lot of things in this stock
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about, but I do want to
<v Speaker 1>touch on this I Justine thing because it's so funny
<v Speaker 1>to me. If my laptop manages to make it and
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to do a reset here, what number is?
<v Speaker 3>Just do control after type in, like Justine, I swear
<v Speaker 3>things will start showing their faces.
<v Speaker 1>I don't.
<v Speaker 3>It's like eighteen nineteen. It's towards the bottom eighteen nineteen. No,
<v Speaker 3>it's not anything extra I do on this lap. This
<v Speaker 3>laptop is also going to need a set pretty much.
<v Speaker 3>It's thirteen thirteen thirteen. All right, thank you so much
<v Speaker 3>for that.
<v Speaker 1>No problem. Let me see if I can bring this up.
<v Speaker 1>This laptop might need a reset. Actually we need to
<v Speaker 1>talk about something else. We're talking about all this money
<v Speaker 1>you're going to spend. It's like, you need a laptop.
<v Speaker 1>This laptops. I made a promise to Chat that I
<v Speaker 1>would get a new laptop by this stream. To be fair,
<v Speaker 1>these are both my laptops. This is my crap one.
<v Speaker 1>But I went. I went, like a couple of days ago,
<v Speaker 1>I went to Walmart to get a MacBook and they
<v Speaker 1>were like, we don't sell MacBooks, and I was like, okay.
<v Speaker 1>So I went to Target and they're like, yeah, we
<v Speaker 1>don't sell MacBooks, but we have MacBook cases. And I
<v Speaker 1>was like, what is happening? Yeah? Perfect, And I haven't
<v Speaker 1>made it up the best, so MacBook, I don't know
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. Yeah, this might need a whole reset. Oh great,
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to do that really quick, super fun.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that last time it didn't take too long.
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about it though. Before we get the video,
<v Speaker 1>A lot of you might have seen it. Sorry, I'll
<v Speaker 1>pull it now. I feel I want to show the
<v Speaker 1>video that I want to talk about it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe we can just do some super chats or something.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hit me with some chat. Let's let let's take
<v Speaker 1>a moment, talk to chat. Okay, hold on, hold on,
<v Speaker 1>hit me with something that they're saying.
<v Speaker 3>Uh, okay, Well, people with the Switch to Mario Party
<v Speaker 3>be able to play with Switch one Mario Party players.
<v Speaker 3>That's also, I absolutely love the content.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate that.
<v Speaker 3>Five dollars from Cinnamon Bob.
<v Speaker 1>Those I love that name too. Those kind of questions
<v Speaker 1>are all things that we're gonna have to wait and see.
<v Speaker 1>I think unless Nintendo have specifically said I, if I
<v Speaker 1>was to make a bold assumption and don't hold me
<v Speaker 1>to it, I'd say yes. I mean, you probably would
<v Speaker 1>be not able to play the extra DFC content, and
<v Speaker 1>you probably wouldn't be able to do the extra minigames,
<v Speaker 1>but I imagine so so.
<v Speaker 3>One thing I can confirm is remember the game sharing. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>if if the game I guess if the game works
<v Speaker 3>on both systems. You can game share to a switch
<v Speaker 3>one and I saw them playing Mario Party when they
<v Speaker 3>were I'm sharing one person had to switch one.
<v Speaker 1>You could tell why the joy cards. Yeah, that makes
<v Speaker 1>so that I can confirm.
<v Speaker 2>Oh.
<v Speaker 1>One of the other things about misinformation too, that was
<v Speaker 1>going around and I put it in the thumbnaw so
<v Speaker 1>before we talk about it was that. Uh well, I
<v Speaker 1>think for the thumbnail, I wrote no data because I
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't figure out what's actually right. But people were
<v Speaker 1>thinking that the key carts were going to get locked.
<v Speaker 1>Do I have that in the dock at all, that
<v Speaker 1>key cuts were going to get locked to accounts? Uh? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that I did. I definitely didn't post up. You can
<v Speaker 1>maybe ask you no, it's updated windows. Uh yeah. That
<v Speaker 1>was a thing going that the game key cards or
<v Speaker 1>like game cards were going to get locked to your
<v Speaker 1>account when you use them. And I think that has
<v Speaker 1>been confirmed not to be true. I don't know if
<v Speaker 1>that was like some more weird uh little tiny print
<v Speaker 1>on something that someone read, but yeah, no, they won't.
<v Speaker 1>The physical games will not be locked to your account.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where that came from.
<v Speaker 3>But uh there we got another one from five dollars,
<v Speaker 3>uh leronor you're asking a dyslexic to read these, So
<v Speaker 3>I apologize if I'm making your names messed up. But
<v Speaker 3>for five dollars, says I'm going to keep it real.
<v Speaker 3>This might be a PS three launch situation.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know about that one. No, please enlighten me.
<v Speaker 1>It was one thousand dollars. Was it a thousand? It
<v Speaker 1>was a thousand dollars. That is crazy it had. It
<v Speaker 1>was one thousand dollars. It also had like full backwards
<v Speaker 1>compatibility and some other things, and people were like, what
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? So they stripped back the console, they
<v Speaker 1>took out the backwards compatibility and some other things, and
<v Speaker 1>then they re released it for like six hundred or something.
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what they did.
<v Speaker 3>It was still a crazy I remember it was still
<v Speaker 3>a crazy price. And at the time though, wasn't it
<v Speaker 3>like the cheapest Blu ray player though? Or am I crazy?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, it's always it's something weird, like I don't
<v Speaker 1>know about at a thousand. Yeah, no doubt at a thousand.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah. Another thing I saw as I'm still waiting
<v Speaker 1>for my computer to reboot and update Windows is people saying,
<v Speaker 1>I guess n video came out and said that the
<v Speaker 1>chip they made for the switch to is worth like
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty bones or something, and so now
<v Speaker 1>people are saying, oh, then the switch is probably only
<v Speaker 1>going to cost like three hundred dollars to make, and
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo could just not sell it at such a high price. Again,
<v Speaker 1>I really don't think going after the console price is
<v Speaker 1>the right idea. But also we don't know what it
<v Speaker 1>costs them to make. We do know, as I learned
<v Speaker 1>recently with the switch one, they actually were selling switch
<v Speaker 1>ones at a profit. They were selling them. I don't
<v Speaker 1>remember if it was like fifty dollars profit or something
<v Speaker 1>they were making on each one, and they weren't taking
<v Speaker 1>a loss on it. And it's most likely the case
<v Speaker 1>here again, like I would I my guess would be
<v Speaker 1>it probably cost three to fifty four hundred for them
<v Speaker 1>to make a switch and then they're probably selling out
<v Speaker 1>a profit at four point fifty and I don't think
<v Speaker 1>that's that much of a problem. Like I think all
<v Speaker 1>companies do one to be in a position where they're
<v Speaker 1>selling stuff out of profit, and again not to be
<v Speaker 1>a shill for them. The more money they make, the
<v Speaker 1>more money they have to invest in products and time
<v Speaker 1>and spending five years on development cycles and all of that,
<v Speaker 1>and as long as the product is good and it's
<v Speaker 1>worth that money. In today's economy, I don't think it's
<v Speaker 1>that much of an issue.
<v Speaker 3>So I not to question your intelligence on marketing, but
<v Speaker 3>I as a salesperson, I know that I think you're
<v Speaker 3>vastly overestimating what cost is. I don't think that they
<v Speaker 3>would I think this. I think they'd want to at
<v Speaker 3>least make two fifty each console, like minimum. So I
<v Speaker 3>think buying a bunch of those chips at bulk, you
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? You have to take into consideration
<v Speaker 3>that they're probably buying them, well, then they're one hundred
<v Speaker 3>and thirty each. If they're buying them at bulk, they're
<v Speaker 3>probably only like sixty eighty for them because they're buying
<v Speaker 3>so much.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're all guess, and you could be right.
<v Speaker 1>I can't get wrong. Yeah, I know better, That's what
<v Speaker 1>I meant. I don't think you are at least like that.
<v Speaker 1>That's out. I'm glad that's out. I I'm only basing
<v Speaker 1>this on what we know from Switch one and how
<v Speaker 1>much profit they made on Switch one. Okay, So we
<v Speaker 1>got another one that I think is kind of I
<v Speaker 1>would like to still hit on that though. Sorry, I
<v Speaker 1>would like to still continue that though. Continue Yeah, because
<v Speaker 1>like if you're saying they're making like two hundred or more, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>then that sounds like you think they're just selling the
<v Speaker 1>chip because the chip's worth one fifty. What do you
<v Speaker 1>think everything else is worth? Like the screen, the gyro,
<v Speaker 1>the controllers, the NFC reader, the HD rumble, the no
<v Speaker 1>for sure, yeah, I mean all that's got to be
<v Speaker 1>worth more than fifty bucks. No, for sure. But I
<v Speaker 1>mean they don't think they're making like two I just
<v Speaker 1>don't think they're making two hundred dollars profit at four fifty.
<v Speaker 1>I think that they are. I think that they're making
<v Speaker 1>a lot of profit. You think they found a way
<v Speaker 1>to make the switch too cheaper than the switch one?
<v Speaker 3>You think, Well, that's what I'm saying is I don't
<v Speaker 3>think that we know for how much they pay for
<v Speaker 3>this the consoles.
<v Speaker 1>No, we don't, not at all.
<v Speaker 3>No, I think that if we do know switch one,
<v Speaker 3>if you were to make the switch, you could probably
<v Speaker 3>you know, you could probably make it for whatever price
<v Speaker 3>you're saying. Now, I'm just saying that when you're Nintendo
<v Speaker 3>and you're buying like millions of that.
<v Speaker 1>You know that Xbox and PlayStations sell theirs at a loss. No,
<v Speaker 1>I did not know that. Yeah, all other companies sell
<v Speaker 1>their systems at a loss. It was a revelation to
<v Speaker 1>me to find out that Nintendo makes about fifty bucks
<v Speaker 1>off each switch. They actually sell them at a profit.
<v Speaker 1>So if they found a way to make a couple
<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks on a better system, they've got a well,
<v Speaker 1>I guess they don't have to tell Sony an Xbox,
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, they've definitely done something cool.
<v Speaker 3>I mean they are in Japan. I mean I find
<v Speaker 3>that shocking, to be honest, from what I know about.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these companies I talk about a lot, but they
<v Speaker 1>sell their systems at a loss because once you have it,
<v Speaker 1>you have to buy games for it, and all of
<v Speaker 1>the software is profit. Yeah, immediately, as soon as someone
<v Speaker 1>subscribes to an online membership a game PA, they buy
<v Speaker 1>a video game, they buy Halo, they buy Last of Us.
<v Speaker 1>That's why these companies stop making that profit.
<v Speaker 3>But that's the thing is that, Okay, let's talk about
<v Speaker 3>that with Nintendo. It's like, then, why is Mario Kart
<v Speaker 3>eighty dollars because you could have just sold the console
<v Speaker 3>for more or cheaper, or you know, tried to pin
<v Speaker 3>agree with you on that. Yeah, yeah, I'm ned with
<v Speaker 3>you on that. So somebody brought this up in super chat.
<v Speaker 3>I just want to throw this at you real fast
<v Speaker 3>while you're still loading stuff up. I'm almost munching munch lax.
<v Speaker 3>Great name, nine dollars and ninety nine cents. I know
<v Speaker 3>this is going to sound odd or old. I didn't
<v Speaker 3>want to, by the way, before I get into this,
<v Speaker 3>I had this up and I just was like, this
<v Speaker 3>doesn't this is going to make it into the dock.
<v Speaker 3>So I didn't put it into the dock. But they're saying,
<v Speaker 3>I know this is going to sound old. But somebody
<v Speaker 3>went on x and said that they had a source
<v Speaker 3>that works at Nintendo say that there were managers meeting
<v Speaker 3>tomorrow to discuss the price whether to stay at four
<v Speaker 3>fifty this pre order news.
<v Speaker 1>That that does sound like my dad works at a
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo situation exactly.
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really think it was a reddit you know,
<v Speaker 3>post or whatever, and I didn't really think it was
<v Speaker 3>worth adding to the dock.
<v Speaker 1>But if someone find it, I'd love to see it. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I can find it again. I think. All right, guys,
<v Speaker 1>this laptop is doing my head in. So I'm just
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you what happened with I Justine, and you're
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to go see my tweet. I wish I
<v Speaker 1>could bring it up. It would be way better if
<v Speaker 1>I could, but I can't because it's not working, and
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I gotta get a new I gotta just
<v Speaker 1>I gotta Amazon, especially before the tariffs get here. I
<v Speaker 1>need to Amazon order a MacBook. If anyone, what's a
<v Speaker 1>good MacBook? What one should I get? Books? In the
<v Speaker 1>chat because they very impressed. I can't even see chat
<v Speaker 1>because I can't pull anything up. Oh wait is it working? Oh?
<v Speaker 1>I can type. I'm in I've hacked the main frame.
<v Speaker 1>We're in, guys. Yes, I'm in Google Docs. I'm opening
<v Speaker 1>which you say it was thirteen fourteen on I Justine,
<v Speaker 1>you said Max, I don't know if that's the MacBook.
<v Speaker 3>Oo ooh ooh, yep, here we go. A lot of
<v Speaker 3>people are saying air am four pro.
<v Speaker 1>Sorry for this dead ed, this is the this is
<v Speaker 1>the worst part of the podcast. I won't be I
<v Speaker 1>won't make it dead. Yeah, I'm going to make it dead.
<v Speaker 1>I know we're both doing stuff, all right. I think
<v Speaker 1>I've got it locked. You can cut to me. Locked.
<v Speaker 1>There it is, guys. Oh, I just wanted to show
<v Speaker 1>this before I spoke about it. Okay, here's a clip
<v Speaker 1>of I Justine. If you haven't seen it, I want
<v Speaker 1>to know what you think about it. It out.
<v Speaker 4>I just got a chance to play the Memorial Park
<v Speaker 4>World and it was.
<v Speaker 1>So much fun.
<v Speaker 4>But take a supposed to look at the Nintendo switch
<v Speaker 4>to whip the display on.
<v Speaker 1>Huge screen.
<v Speaker 4>So fun, so crisp, so clean.
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's beautiful.
<v Speaker 1>What if I told you in that nineteen seconds there
<v Speaker 1>were two things that pissed off gamers around the world
<v Speaker 1>that she said.
<v Speaker 3>I would very much believe you because I know where
<v Speaker 3>you're going with this.
<v Speaker 1>I just love it. I'm gonna play it again because
<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what happened, you might have missed it.
<v Speaker 3>Can we get a T shirt that says that, Actually.
<v Speaker 1>No, because I think it's insane that people are making
<v Speaker 1>fun of her for this. See if you can pick
<v Speaker 1>the two moments, check it out. I just got to
<v Speaker 1>do you know, both moments. I think so.
<v Speaker 4>Play the Memorial Part World, and it was so much fun.
<v Speaker 4>But take a supposed to look at the Nintendo switch
<v Speaker 4>to with the display.
<v Speaker 3>On, huge screen.
<v Speaker 4>So fun, so crisp, so clean.
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know why you're laughing. Are you
<v Speaker 1>laughing at how ridiculous it is that people got upset.
<v Speaker 3>I'm laughing at the meme mobility of it.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I will say, what are the two moments?
<v Speaker 3>You think the two moments are when she says, with
<v Speaker 3>the display on is number one?
<v Speaker 1>It's not? And then number two it's not. But it
<v Speaker 1>could have been It could have been anything. Okay, So
<v Speaker 1>it could have been her breathing. Okay, and well.
<v Speaker 3>Too, I know, and everybody keeps saying it in the chat.
<v Speaker 3>It's so crisp, so clean, so fun.
<v Speaker 2>All right?
<v Speaker 3>Can we get a T shirt that says that, come on,
<v Speaker 3>that's great?
<v Speaker 1>No, because I'm not. I'm not in the habit of
<v Speaker 1>making fun of people for saying something completely normal. All right.
<v Speaker 3>It's just a mean thing. I don't know if I'm
<v Speaker 3>making I'm laughing with her.
<v Speaker 1>The thing is no one else is people are making
<v Speaker 1>fun of her and people I feel like it's extremely sexist.
<v Speaker 1>But you can cut away from this for a second. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>So the first thing was people say had an issue
<v Speaker 1>with her saying the new Mario cart World.
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's that, Okay, come on, guys, because.
<v Speaker 1>It's not the new Mario cart World. It's a new
<v Speaker 1>Mario cut There's not been a new Mario cut World. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>so that's the first thing people are saying, why she
<v Speaker 1>even there? Yeah, that's yeah, the whole thing is insane. Secondly,
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. That screen is fun. Yeah, that is a bright,
<v Speaker 1>popping LCD HDR screen that I'm gonna get to play
<v Speaker 1>Breath of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom on and
<v Speaker 1>see these games come to life, Like I was legitimately
<v Speaker 1>playing Tears of the Kingdom on that screen, seeing like
<v Speaker 1>the glow of the sun come through, and I thought,
<v Speaker 1>I'm having fun. And that fun playing that old game
<v Speaker 1>was because of what the screen was doing. The screen
<v Speaker 1>was making the game more fun and more enjoyable for me.
<v Speaker 1>So one I understood what she meant, and two people
<v Speaker 1>are like, why she even there? Like what kind of
<v Speaker 1>review is this? Like isn't she a tech reviewer. She's
<v Speaker 1>at the press event and someone pulled out a phone
<v Speaker 1>and she said something, this isn't like she's gone home
<v Speaker 1>and she wrote a script and she's done a whole breakdown,
<v Speaker 1>and she used the word fun to describe the experience
<v Speaker 1>of the screen, which, to be fair, whatever, if that's
<v Speaker 1>her experience with the screen, she just said fun while
<v Speaker 1>she was standing there in a ten second clip. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I said. And and by the way,
<v Speaker 1>this is what was quoted. This is access media with
<v Speaker 1>toxic positivity rolled into one twenty second clip. Did you
<v Speaker 1>get any of that? Yeah, toxic positivity? What does that
<v Speaker 1>even mean? I'm here playing the new Mario cut world.
<v Speaker 1>The fun the screen is so fun, so clean, so crisp, toxic.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't. I just like, I just like that saying.
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a great saying.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, I don't. I I don't think anyone would have
<v Speaker 1>given two squats a piss if this was Marcus Brownlee
<v Speaker 1>or Casey Nysat or anybody that has said that they
<v Speaker 1>had fun with that screen personally.
<v Speaker 3>I will, you know what, I will have to agree
<v Speaker 3>with you there. I think that is a huge part
<v Speaker 3>of it. Thateople like to make fun of girl gamers
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. They're just gamers at the end of the day.
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I just I think that I think that
<v Speaker 3>they would have. I think people would always be there
<v Speaker 3>to give anybody a home. Can I just because you
<v Speaker 3>thought it was hilarious? I want to on a couple
<v Speaker 3>of things off of you go for it? The joy
<v Speaker 3>cons when you play emotional controls? Could could that be fun?
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Yes? Okay, so you could describe that as fun? Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>What about using the microphone to talk to your friends
<v Speaker 1>that's built in? Could you describe that as a fun? Time?
<v Speaker 1>Would be fun? Was this grilling Max time? No? No,
<v Speaker 1>I'm using you as a sounding board. I'm not trying
<v Speaker 1>to be mean to you. No, I'm proposing it to
<v Speaker 1>the audience. Why can't it be fun? Why can't any
<v Speaker 1>part of this be fun? Even Nintendo thinks their new
<v Speaker 1>gimmick this time is their one hundred and twenty frame
<v Speaker 1>screen because they put a mini game for that into
<v Speaker 1>their new pack in game, I feel like getting to
<v Speaker 1>play Tiss of the Kingdom in one hundred and twenty
<v Speaker 1>frames is an element of fun that the screen is providing.
<v Speaker 1>The screen is fun.
<v Speaker 3>Can I say something that I think they made such
<v Speaker 3>a nitpick?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>I think Can I say something that I think they
<v Speaker 3>may have made an error with when inviting some of
<v Speaker 3>these people. Sure, and this is just my opinion, but
<v Speaker 3>I think that the switch to on first glance on
<v Speaker 3>or even somebody seeing it that isn't a hardcore switch fan,
<v Speaker 3>they might not be able to see the difference of
<v Speaker 3>the Switch one to the Switch one, at least right away.
<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe better screen, but you know, you got
<v Speaker 3>the O lead, you know what I'm saying. So I
<v Speaker 3>think that they, like you said, it was off the rip,
<v Speaker 3>somebody just jumped in their face. Maybe it was difficult
<v Speaker 3>for them to differentiate to like in ten seconds or
<v Speaker 3>however long the TikTok.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, but I agree with everything she said, so, like
<v Speaker 1>what makes her or eye so different in that way?
<v Speaker 3>It was tense?
<v Speaker 1>Oh she said was here's the new Mario cut. The
<v Speaker 1>screen is so clean, crisp and fun. Yeah. Basing on that,
<v Speaker 1>You're like, she's never seen a switch one.
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm saying that she may have ran out of
<v Speaker 3>things to be like, how do I differentiate these this
<v Speaker 3>from the switch one on just first glance?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm maybe or maybe I mean, like because.
<v Speaker 3>When you got there you knew about the four K
<v Speaker 3>you knew about but like new features, she did it.
<v Speaker 1>I think this is irrelevant. I mean cut back to
<v Speaker 1>the clip just for a second. Yeah, so she's here,
<v Speaker 1>she's just talking about it quickly.
<v Speaker 4>Chris so clean.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's beautiful, beautiful, she likes it.
<v Speaker 3>I cannot wait for juni feb.
<v Speaker 1>And then she just puts it down and she like
<v Speaker 1>walks away like this isn't a this is this is
<v Speaker 1>a nothing video. Yeah, And I'm not to her discredit
<v Speaker 1>it's just not it's not her content. It's not what
<v Speaker 1>she's like gone home and made about this. It's like
<v Speaker 1>someone filmed her while she was there, and that's what
<v Speaker 1>she said off the top of her head. Yeah, you
<v Speaker 1>could have had the same video of me, Like if
<v Speaker 1>you were a fan of me and you noticed me
<v Speaker 1>when I was there, and you just pulled out your
<v Speaker 1>phone your camera and you were like, say something about it.
<v Speaker 1>What Am I going to give you a whole breakdown?
<v Speaker 1>Am I going to give you the pros and cons
<v Speaker 1>and how it compares to the first one? Do you
<v Speaker 1>got ten minutes? Let me let me get to the
<v Speaker 1>bottom of this. No, I'm gonna be like, yeah, it's great.
<v Speaker 1>The screen's really crisp. That's probably even what I said
<v Speaker 1>to people that were asking me questions while I was there.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I don't know how to Yeah, I
<v Speaker 3>don't know how to defend this, this kind of making
<v Speaker 3>fun of I mean, I think that it's just a
<v Speaker 3>small little tongue in cheek kind of laugh. But you know,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not I don't think that this discredits her. I
<v Speaker 3>think it's just, you know, it's just kind of somebody
<v Speaker 3>talking about I think.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, you know what I mean. I think
<v Speaker 1>maybe like the the the conversation in the room is different.
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to talk about, like if you go to
<v Speaker 1>this thread, and I didn't want to highlight them too
<v Speaker 1>much because I don't want to give them too much publicity.
<v Speaker 1>But people like they're making like multiple podcast episodes about it,
<v Speaker 1>and I was mentioned in it for defending her, and
<v Speaker 1>they were making fun of miss Click for defending her,
<v Speaker 1>and all these comments and replies are like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>laughing at her or like saying that she shouldn't have
<v Speaker 1>gone and blah blah blah blah. So to me, it
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like a tongue in cheek. Oh that's a
<v Speaker 1>mimorable little moment. It's shitting on her. Like, I don't
<v Speaker 1>know how else to say it really, But I don't
<v Speaker 1>know if you okay, fair, I hope she doesn't go
<v Speaker 1>to the next one. I mean, is that the official
<v Speaker 1>stance of the show or I mean I didn't say that,
<v Speaker 1>you said it. I don't know. I don't know what's
<v Speaker 1>happening anymore. I stand with I Justine. I think it's
<v Speaker 1>absolutely insane that people made fun of that. That is,
<v Speaker 1>I saw nothing wrong with what she said. I honestly
<v Speaker 1>had to watch it like ten times the first time
<v Speaker 1>I saw the clip to figure out what people were
<v Speaker 1>upset about. And I think the backlash that she got
<v Speaker 1>for that clip is unjustified. I think, I think, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I agree in my in my opinion, I.
<v Speaker 3>Want to also say that I think some sort of
<v Speaker 3>backlash is crazy. I think that, you know, we can
<v Speaker 3>have a little laugh about it, but some sort of
<v Speaker 3>like trying to like attack this person on what they
<v Speaker 3>do for a living is crazy. But what else do
<v Speaker 3>we got in the doc?
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I got to reset everything, so that's
<v Speaker 1>the only thing I managed to pull up. Really, chat thoughts,
<v Speaker 1>could we get a vibe? Do you want to do
<v Speaker 1>a poll? Chat?
<v Speaker 3>Uh that that's going to be a crazy ask for me.
<v Speaker 3>Because I'm not on I'm watching it the regular way chat. Sorry,
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to get trying to get your comments up.
<v Speaker 1>I can't find the stream. Now all right, I got it?
<v Speaker 1>Why is it I want saying? Batman? Uh? They're calling
<v Speaker 1>you batman for defending.
<v Speaker 2>Me?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay, cool? Where are the drugs going?
<v Speaker 3>Uh?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean well, no, I don't want to move on? Then?
<v Speaker 1>Do people? Are people actually mad with her? Like is is? No?
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people.
<v Speaker 3>I honestly think that a lot of people in the
<v Speaker 3>chat are agreeing with you. I just think that maybe
<v Speaker 3>they think that she you don't need you don't need
<v Speaker 3>to defend this.
<v Speaker 1>Uh okay, sure, Okay. To be honest, I was planning
<v Speaker 1>on going into it and just like looking at my
<v Speaker 1>tweet and talking about how silly it is. I didn't expect.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect pushback in the room.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's definitely that chat is kind of pushing us back,
<v Speaker 3>for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I didn't. I didn't mean chat. Oh, I didn't
<v Speaker 1>expect you all push back in the room.
<v Speaker 3>I'm not pushing I'm not pushing you back. I agree
<v Speaker 3>with you. I I'm doing some self reflection in my
<v Speaker 3>mind as well. That's probably why I'm quiet where I'm like,
<v Speaker 3>would I laugh at this if if Casey nice Stat
<v Speaker 3>said the same exact thing, I truly think I would.
<v Speaker 1>But I think what happened in the room is that
<v Speaker 1>I was involved in a ton of tweets and people
<v Speaker 1>uh going in on her and then pulling me into
<v Speaker 1>it and the drama around how mean and toxic people
<v Speaker 1>are being. Yeah, and then I was trying to go
<v Speaker 1>in with that and you were just laughing at the
<v Speaker 1>funny little thing she said and didn't realize about all
<v Speaker 1>that other stuff that's been happening on Twitter.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was innocently laughing at the little quote at
<v Speaker 3>the end.
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I mean, yeah, I'm not. I'm not making
<v Speaker 1>fun I'm laughing wet man. I don't care. I don't care.
<v Speaker 1>I like that Justine. It's dumb. It's dumb that people
<v Speaker 1>are making fun of her for that clip, Like if you,
<v Speaker 1>if you, I don't even. I don't get it new.
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it's not New Mario. Cut World, It's it's
<v Speaker 1>just New Mario. So silly.
<v Speaker 3>That is such a silly thing to like dig in
<v Speaker 3>on somebody.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even I'm not even Batman, because what Batman
<v Speaker 1>doesn't even do that. I'm just a white knight at
<v Speaker 1>this point. Just get me some armor and I'll wear
<v Speaker 1>it proudly. Yeah, all right, I thought that clip was insane.
<v Speaker 1>If you guys don't, then that's fine. That's whatever. We'll
<v Speaker 1>go back to talking about Nintendo. Yeah. I mean I
<v Speaker 1>think that there's just a few bad apples. Batman mask,
<v Speaker 1>I got a spider Man outfit.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you could, You're spider Man. Spider Man, guys, be
<v Speaker 3>spider Man. I could put that on. I think that
<v Speaker 3>people agree with us.
<v Speaker 1>Most of you. TikTok clip is me in a Spider
<v Speaker 1>Man outfit, So really I should put it back on
<v Speaker 1>and rehab the conversation.
<v Speaker 3>We should just change this to a Nintendo in a
<v Speaker 3>Marvel themed podcast.
<v Speaker 1>And I love you, by the way. By the way,
<v Speaker 1>I just I just didn't know what was happening. I
<v Speaker 1>was very confused.
<v Speaker 3>No, I because because I was laughing about it, and
<v Speaker 3>because you seemed.
<v Speaker 1>You that you hate women, so I was.
<v Speaker 3>Please don't do this, guys. I love all girls. All
<v Speaker 3>all women's are queens, okay, all of them.
<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I mean I think I was laughing at it.
<v Speaker 3>But I feel like you were actually offended by it,
<v Speaker 3>and so I feel like I didn't know as much
<v Speaker 3>as you know of offended.
<v Speaker 1>What maybe offended? Is it the That's how it was.
<v Speaker 3>Coming across you were maybe more. You saw more anger
<v Speaker 3>in the chat while I saw harmless meming. You know
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, I shouldn't say chat, I should say
<v Speaker 3>X on Twitter and whatever. Okay, our chat is lovely
<v Speaker 3>and they're great, and I, like I said, most people
<v Speaker 3>agree with us. I just got a yes, queen, just
<v Speaker 3>this whole pot out of the episode. No, I'm making
<v Speaker 3>it two tiktoks out of this.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, sure, I swipe back into with them.
<v Speaker 3>Ah, family friendly neighborhood, nontendo, I don't even know where
<v Speaker 3>we were.
<v Speaker 1>Oh can I try and sell something now? Is this
<v Speaker 1>a good time? This is a great time to sell something. No,
<v Speaker 1>it feels like a bad transition. That was just the
<v Speaker 1>next thing I saw in the doc game co compatibility. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>don't downplay I don't know what that means.
<v Speaker 3>Uh, don't downplay your h that that was them saying
<v Speaker 3>that you got invited.
<v Speaker 1>Oh would you're a great YouTuber? Oh yeah, let's go
<v Speaker 1>back to defending me after that maybe not, maybe not?
<v Speaker 3>Are you let's talk about the the AI quake too,
<v Speaker 3>that Jeff, No.
<v Speaker 1>That's start boring. Okay, sorry about that of you being right?
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to go to those that's ten and eleven? Sure, sure,
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I'm trying to find a good transition and nothing.
<v Speaker 1>Nothing's hitting right. But the comparison and graphics of Peach
<v Speaker 1>number three, that is cool. Let's do that. Yeah, here
<v Speaker 1>it is. What do you what do you want? Is
<v Speaker 1>the vibe killed? I mean, the ViBe's a little killed,
<v Speaker 1>but we'll find it. It's gonna take time, but we'll
<v Speaker 1>find it. I'm having a great time. I'm having a
<v Speaker 1>great time. I don't know what just happened, and I'm honestly,
<v Speaker 1>I am shocked at the response from the community. If
<v Speaker 1>the response was what I think it was when I
<v Speaker 1>looked over, No, it's it's not just I don't know
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. No, it's not like that. It's not like that.
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you. First, I thought that was going
<v Speaker 1>to be such a nothing conversation and we would just
<v Speaker 1>laugh at people making fun of her for saying New
<v Speaker 1>Mario cart World and saying that a screen was fun.
<v Speaker 1>I think that it was then, and I saw what
<v Speaker 1>looked like a bunch of people being like agreeing with
<v Speaker 1>the other way.
<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Okay. I think that,
<v Speaker 3>like I said, I think it was nothing conversation. I
<v Speaker 3>think people just wanted to move on. And I think
<v Speaker 3>even the people that like were laughing at her were
<v Speaker 3>just like, you don't need.
<v Speaker 1>To talk about this. Okay. I wanted to, but I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's your show. You can do whatever. The hell? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this is this is it speaking of women? This is
<v Speaker 1>means because queens the old Mario cott World and then
<v Speaker 1>here's the new Mario Catt World. I just realized what
<v Speaker 1>you did there. That's why I'm laughing. I mean to
<v Speaker 1>do any kind of justifying here on how much better
<v Speaker 1>this game actually does. Look, that's Mario Catt eight Deluxe,
<v Speaker 1>and this is Mario cott World.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but is that Mario Kart eight Deluxe worth eighty
<v Speaker 3>five years ago?
<v Speaker 1>Eight years ago? Whenever? I'm just looking at two pictures
<v Speaker 1>of Peach and seeing that one much, That's what I
<v Speaker 1>was looking at, Yes, Queen, all right, next, Oh we
<v Speaker 1>should just find the whole conversation of what of this episode?
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to how do you get to
<v Speaker 1>the episode from the clip? Watchful videos down there? All right,
<v Speaker 1>all right, you can hit play. This is on a
<v Speaker 1>specific moment. We could find more, but and shout out
<v Speaker 1>to Tim, who we love so dearly, by the way,
<v Speaker 1>come back. He should. If you go back and watch
<v Speaker 1>this episode, Tim and I have a half an hour
<v Speaker 1>long debate about whether or not the switch to will
<v Speaker 1>be four K sixty, with me saying it is so
<v Speaker 1>obviously going to be and him kind of laughing at
<v Speaker 1>me the whole time. It's pretty funny to go back
<v Speaker 1>and watch. With all the love and respect in the world,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about it not looking four K sixty.
<v Speaker 1>Four K sixty, No, man, no turn it up.
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't happen. I just don't nah nah, four K
<v Speaker 2>thirty sure.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Oh so you are willing to believe four K
<v Speaker 1>just not sixty.
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, that's my thing, this or that, it's just
<v Speaker 2>not both.
<v Speaker 1>You don't think. I mean, there's no shot. Okay, there's
<v Speaker 1>no shot. I think I'm gonna say this right now,
<v Speaker 1>there's no shot. The next Maria Cutt isn't four K sixty.
<v Speaker 2>I think you're crazy to say love that shot and
<v Speaker 2>with the AI that does change things. But like even then.
<v Speaker 1>I just I struggle to believe the next eight, like
<v Speaker 1>a new console no matter who it is, could come
<v Speaker 1>out in twenty twenty five and be locked at ten
<v Speaker 1>ADP and I feel.
<v Speaker 2>Like, I mean, it wouldn't be locked.
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, but then if you're saying that we could
<v Speaker 1>go up, I'd say two K four K to then say, okay,
<v Speaker 1>Maria Cutt eight was sixty frames, but we're going back
<v Speaker 1>to thirty like that?
<v Speaker 2>Just do it all the time.
<v Speaker 1>No, I feel like it's such a bad look. It's
<v Speaker 1>such a bad look. And I don't the little leg
<v Speaker 1>mule like, oh, look, another another eight years of a
<v Speaker 1>of a console that you don't need to buy, and
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy on my PlayStation, like Nintendo. Nintendo needs to
<v Speaker 1>prepare yourself, bro, prepare yourself. Now. You might have been
<v Speaker 1>right about that, but not for the reason that he thought, yeah, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>little does he know he's right. This whole conversation is
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. At one point I even said, uh, I
<v Speaker 1>even said like, haities two will probably come to switch
<v Speaker 1>and be four K sixty and stuff like that, and
<v Speaker 1>he's just like, oh, I don't I don't know what
<v Speaker 1>to tell you. I know what I'm talking about.
<v Speaker 3>I also, I just think that a lot of people
<v Speaker 3>were just so you know, they they they look at
<v Speaker 3>the switch compared to like the PS five, and they're like,
<v Speaker 3>there's no way the next thing is going to be
<v Speaker 3>even close, even compared.
<v Speaker 1>It always made so much sense to me, Like we
<v Speaker 1>we had ten eighty piece six with Mario Kart. You
<v Speaker 1>can't do a new Mario Kart and not go up.
<v Speaker 1>And what is up? I mean, if you move sixty up,
<v Speaker 1>it's one twenty, which I never thought was going to happen.
<v Speaker 1>So you move up the ten eighty and then you
<v Speaker 1>get where you get four k unless you want a
<v Speaker 1>half asset and find somewhere in the middle at two
<v Speaker 1>k like ten years later from that Mario Kart. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be four K sixty. There are
<v Speaker 1>so many good clips. That whole part is pretty good.
<v Speaker 1>Someone spamming raised the price in chat Yeah yeah, uh.
<v Speaker 3>Of what of everything? They want they want it more,
<v Speaker 3>They want to pay Nintendo more.
<v Speaker 1>This is going to hell because the whole thing has
<v Speaker 1>gone to hell. Ah, sure you can, you can a
<v Speaker 1>great time. How any messages is Kim going in the
<v Speaker 1>labor yet I get out of here? Are we not
<v Speaker 1>in an hour? What are we at?
<v Speaker 4>Uh?
<v Speaker 1>Chat? Oh? We all were like, well over, we're at
<v Speaker 1>two and a half hours.
<v Speaker 3>No, we're not what we started at three.
<v Speaker 1>It's almost five. Oh my god, give me some food, please? Chat?
<v Speaker 1>What's the vibe you want me to end? You want
<v Speaker 1>me to just get out of him with the vibes
<v Speaker 1>like this?
<v Speaker 3>I think the vibes are great. I think you're just
<v Speaker 3>feeling some weirdness between me and you. But I'm having
<v Speaker 3>a great time.
<v Speaker 1>I I just want to watch it back because I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what happened, I don't know where we where,
<v Speaker 1>We decinct and we went awry? Who was we be?
<v Speaker 2>And you?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just said this weirdness between us. No, you
<v Speaker 1>just said there was no. I meant you just said
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling weirdness between us.
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying you're feeling weirdness between us, but we're doing good.
<v Speaker 1>That's what I said. Okay, okay, good, I'm glad we're
<v Speaker 1>doing good.
<v Speaker 3>You have you ever played that game where you try
<v Speaker 3>to like you say this, you say a word at
<v Speaker 3>the same time and then we try to sync up.
<v Speaker 3>We should play that game. I think it would help
<v Speaker 3>this this dynamic. Okay, do you know what I'm talking about?
<v Speaker 2>What?
<v Speaker 1>So you count to three and then.
<v Speaker 3>You say any word at all, and then we try
<v Speaker 3>to it. We try to link up and then connect
<v Speaker 3>that word to another word.
<v Speaker 1>Do we say the words the same time? Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>So for example, said you say you said toothbrush, and
<v Speaker 3>then I said windshield or something. Right, then we would
<v Speaker 3>go both be like I would think bathroom mirror and
<v Speaker 3>then hopefully you would also think bathroom mirror, and that's
<v Speaker 3>how we would get or we would get to mirror.
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. No, I don't get it,
<v Speaker 1>but let's try it. If you don't understand the game,
<v Speaker 1>how are we gonna play? No, well, give us I'll
<v Speaker 1>figure it out on the fly. So three two one
<v Speaker 1>we say the same thing. No, yeah, yeah, we were
<v Speaker 1>locked in. We're locked in, all right, let's do it.
<v Speaker 1>Count okay, three to one? Fun brush okay, fun toothbrush? Okay, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>are you thinking of a word? Oh, we have to
<v Speaker 1>be thinking of the same word. Okay, that's what we're
<v Speaker 1>doing right now. We're locking in where our minds are conjointed.
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying. I'm gonna try it. So fun and toothbrush? Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>we gotta think of something. You can describe a toothbrush
<v Speaker 1>that way. Come on, let's say it. Three two one okay,
<v Speaker 1>three to one? Oh, I was gonna go electric? Okay,
<v Speaker 1>what's fun about cleaning? Where do we go from here?
<v Speaker 1>What do you do now that we keep going? We
<v Speaker 1>keep going until we lock in, until we say the same.
<v Speaker 1>It could take forever. So fun electric clean toothbrush?
<v Speaker 3>No, now, we're just doing clean and electric? Oh so okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>all right, I got one.
<v Speaker 1>So three two one energy?
<v Speaker 3>Oh see we're so this is the music because I'm
<v Speaker 3>thinking it's electric?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so music and energy okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Wait where are we at now? Music and energy? Oh?
<v Speaker 1>Come on, we got this one. This one's this one's there?
<v Speaker 3>You feel it? Music and energy? Do you feel it?
<v Speaker 3>I'm telepathic. I don't know what to use, but then
<v Speaker 3>it's not Then don't use that word. It's a simple word.
<v Speaker 3>Connect with me.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, three to one? Dancing? What did you say? Gig?
<v Speaker 1>Music and energy? Go to energy? Well, music and energy?
<v Speaker 1>What's the energy is dancing? I don't always dance when
<v Speaker 1>I hear music Okay, is this fun for people? We
<v Speaker 1>gotta get we gotta we gotta get through it. Dance
<v Speaker 1>and gig, dance and gig.
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if I could bring us back
<v Speaker 3>from this dance and gig. Let's try one more time
<v Speaker 3>and then maybe we should start over. If the order
<v Speaker 3>just we'll start. We got to get it, okay, three
<v Speaker 3>two one musical rock musical?
<v Speaker 1>What I can't think of one? I feel like we're
<v Speaker 1>so close rock musical. Yeah, we just going to pick
<v Speaker 1>a rock musical.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we have to can't communicate it. We have
<v Speaker 3>to telepathically. I feel like you and Ham would be
<v Speaker 3>better at this any rock music me neither.
<v Speaker 1>Let's just think of a musical. Okay, we can do
<v Speaker 1>we can do this all musical musical. Three to one.
<v Speaker 1>Book God, why were you do that? One? Wicked though?
<v Speaker 2>One?
<v Speaker 1>Right now now we're wicked and book a Mormon. We're screwed.
<v Speaker 3>We can't go anywhere. I think we're screwed. All right,
<v Speaker 3>we'll get it. We'll get it one of these days.
<v Speaker 3>We'll get it one of these days.
<v Speaker 1>They are so out of sink now, I know I
<v Speaker 1>made it worse.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like you're supposed to start over after
<v Speaker 3>a little while.
<v Speaker 1>I apologize for the vibes. I mean, I do when
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I stand by everything that I said, but
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry that it went awry. We have been live
<v Speaker 1>for two and a half hours, though usually it's an
<v Speaker 1>hour long short, and we have to do a bonus
<v Speaker 1>for the patreons because you're already behind on one bonus,
<v Speaker 1>and I was also supposed to we're only doing one
<v Speaker 1>bonus again. I don't know what to tell you. We're
<v Speaker 1>going too long. I was also gonna show you my
<v Speaker 1>satisfied grip, but that doesn't matter if you're not coming
<v Speaker 1>into the bonus episode. I posted a YouTube video today,
<v Speaker 1>like an actual like beat them ups video, and I
<v Speaker 1>put too much work into it. I put a stupid
<v Speaker 1>amount of work into it. So if you could check
<v Speaker 1>that out, I'd really appreciate it. Do we have super.
<v Speaker 3>Chats to hit?
<v Speaker 2>Uh?
<v Speaker 1>No? I think we talked about the ones that talk
<v Speaker 1>about the grip. Ummm, talk about your grip. I'll get out. Guys,
<v Speaker 1>we're not fighting.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but people think that you're really
<v Speaker 3>cruel to us and we're like living one.
<v Speaker 1>I get this one got weird this one, I understand
<v Speaker 1>now every other one. I always get really annoyed when
<v Speaker 1>people say comments about how I'm acting in the episode. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>this one actually got weird.
<v Speaker 3>Did you get Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>It was immed. No you, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 1>say again what happened? Okay, I'm gonna break it down. No,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna break it down in the timeline of events.
<v Speaker 1>So I know, I saw the I Justine tweet. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I watched it like ten times. I couldn't figure out
<v Speaker 1>what she had said. Then people went on to make
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of video podcasts and videos just talking about
<v Speaker 1>how she shouldn't have gone, she shouldn't have been invited.
<v Speaker 1>She know, she was talking about how could she call
<v Speaker 1>it fun? And I was like, what is happening? So
<v Speaker 1>I retweeted it and I was like, why are we
<v Speaker 1>making fun of this? Like I would have used the
<v Speaker 1>same terminology, and I agree it was fun. Then those
<v Speaker 1>people went live again made podcasts calling me out and
<v Speaker 1>miss clickout, which is a friend of mine, and saying
<v Speaker 1>that I was a Nintendo ambassador, so of course I'm
<v Speaker 1>running defense for Nintendo, and like all the influences are
<v Speaker 1>running defenseman Nintendo and then people were in the comment
<v Speaker 1>saying like he was definitely invited and you can tell.
<v Speaker 1>So then I got roped into all the crap that
<v Speaker 1>she was getting roped into. So I was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>when I go on my podcast, I just want to
<v Speaker 1>point this out and how is this?
<v Speaker 3>And then you you will piss you I've pissed.
<v Speaker 1>No, you thought that it was like a little meme
<v Speaker 1>thing that we were going to laugh at, I think
<v Speaker 1>in a nice way, in like, in a lighthearted way.
<v Speaker 1>You thought it was going to be like a oh,
<v Speaker 1>she said, fun. Isn't that like KITCHI? Yeah, I guess
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do my own research. No, you didn't have to.
<v Speaker 1>I didn't set it up right more angry. I jumped
<v Speaker 1>right into the video without any explanation for you, and
<v Speaker 1>we weren't in sync with how like I've kind of
<v Speaker 1>just been fed up with it. And then I was like,
<v Speaker 1>why are you laughing? I'm trying to be fed up
<v Speaker 1>with it, And then I was trying to explain it
<v Speaker 1>to you, and like then I was getting frustrated, and
<v Speaker 1>then it got to the point where it felt like
<v Speaker 1>I was overman explaining and batmanning and White nighting because
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to bring you into like this whole
<v Speaker 1>thing that's been happening online when it wasn't supposed to
<v Speaker 1>be that whole thing. And then I got frustrated, admittedly
<v Speaker 1>at you, but it's not your fault. It's just you're
<v Speaker 1>the guy in the room that I was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>now this is getting weird, but I'm not upset with you,
<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. No, I believe you. I'm not
<v Speaker 1>upsetting there. So that's what happened. And then I was like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing's gone to shit. And then I looked
<v Speaker 1>at the chat and everyone was saying Batman, which at
<v Speaker 1>that point I was. I was in full cape and
<v Speaker 1>armor and I was about to jump from a tall
<v Speaker 1>building to save a woman in distress. So at that
<v Speaker 1>point I was like okay, yeah, and I just leaned
<v Speaker 1>in because I'm like, yeah, I'm Batman. But I was
<v Speaker 1>also like, oh, does chat also think this other way?
<v Speaker 1>So now I've just opened up a whole can of
<v Speaker 1>worms and the vibe just went to shit because of me,
<v Speaker 1>not because of you.
<v Speaker 3>I think the vibe is great. I'm still having a
<v Speaker 3>great time. Does that make sense? I think I was
<v Speaker 3>just yeah, I think I was just trying to mask
<v Speaker 3>a ybe.
<v Speaker 1>No I quit. Everybody's like, he's not coming back. He's
<v Speaker 1>not coming back. This is the last time we see Max.
<v Speaker 1>No I need you back, especially because I don't think
<v Speaker 1>Ham's here next week either. He's telling I don't know
<v Speaker 1>if we ever said, but he's in Japan. Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Ham is in Japan right now. And that's why I'm here,
<v Speaker 3>and that's why I'm ruining, ruining the show. My vibes
<v Speaker 3>are killing the show.
<v Speaker 1>But I do stand by what I said. She just
<v Speaker 1>said it. She said it was a new Mario card game.
<v Speaker 1>It's it is the new Mario card World one and two.
<v Speaker 1>The screen is fun.
<v Speaker 3>Can I also say that? I also stand by what
<v Speaker 3>you say. I think it's ridiculous to make like such
<v Speaker 3>a big deal out of this, to be angry. I
<v Speaker 3>do think it sounds what I.
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't have even mentioned. It's because I think it's because
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have mentioned the woman thing. I also I
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't even have said that. Yeah, maybe because I shouldn't
<v Speaker 1>even put that on her, let alone everything else. I
<v Speaker 1>do think that's what the issue was for those people.
<v Speaker 1>But I shouldn't have mentioned it. My point is I've
<v Speaker 1>I know I've said the same thing. I know I've
<v Speaker 1>called the screen fun. I know i've said fun. People
<v Speaker 1>don't get mad when I say it. So I was like,
<v Speaker 1>why are you getting mad when she says it? Oh,
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why that was what? That was my thing.
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't even have mentioned that.
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's what gets the ball rolling. I
<v Speaker 3>will say that. I feel like if Casey Unitestat or
<v Speaker 3>someone else that isn't known for being a video gamer
<v Speaker 3>said something similar, we would have got a similar troll.
<v Speaker 1>But I think what starts the bandwagon of hate. I
<v Speaker 1>watched Casey nic SAT's video. He even said like, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what this thing is.
<v Speaker 2>Like.
<v Speaker 1>His whole thing was like, I'm not a guy. His
<v Speaker 1>whole video about the switch to experience was about how
<v Speaker 1>he was upset at how hard it was to record
<v Speaker 1>anything in the room because the room was dark. He
<v Speaker 1>fairly even cared about the switch too. Yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. Honestly, Casey's like, seems like a
<v Speaker 1>really nice guy and he lives in New York. But
<v Speaker 1>other than just being an influencer with a lodge following,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why he was there, but nobody mentions that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that it's just like
<v Speaker 3>I said, I think it's less less loud.
<v Speaker 1>Why wasn't I there, that's my question. You were there,
<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't invited to be He wasn't invited. Guys,
<v Speaker 1>we can we get out of here. I would. What
<v Speaker 1>are you doing trying to end? You won't let me
<v Speaker 1>get fired?
<v Speaker 3>Guys, I'm getting fired. This is it. This is my
<v Speaker 3>last episode.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you should just do the show next week. All right,
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start. I'm starting the music. Thanking to the
<v Speaker 1>Patreon so much for being here and being a part
<v Speaker 1>of this mega long episode, megal long. That might not
<v Speaker 1>be mega long if I cut it down, viewers dropped
<v Speaker 1>to two point nine and two point two in minutes.
<v Speaker 1>Yet we don't go two and a half hours, and
<v Speaker 1>we never have over two thousand people watching, so it's
<v Speaker 1>still really good. It's a switch to screen glass or plastic.
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't know. I didn't I didn't test it.
<v Speaker 1>Should have tapped it. I should have tapped it. I
<v Speaker 1>didn't think about that. Actually, we only got to hold
<v Speaker 1>the switch very like for as long as I Justine
<v Speaker 1>held it was about as long as we actually got
<v Speaker 1>to hold the switch other than when I played Breath
<v Speaker 1>of the Wild. I got it for like five minutes.
<v Speaker 1>But I was so busy trying to like film Breath
<v Speaker 1>of the Wild that I didn't think about it. I
<v Speaker 1>read some of these super chats in the in the
<v Speaker 1>Patreon if we even make it there. I love you guys,
<v Speaker 1>like comment. Make sure to rate it so high. Rate
<v Speaker 1>this episode like five stars. Why wouldn't you? It was
<v Speaker 1>the best. It was the best episode ever. But it's
<v Speaker 1>the second best the Max has been in It's pretty high.
<v Speaker 1>I've been in many episodes in the house. I was
<v Speaker 1>trying to make a joke, all right, and if I could,
<v Speaker 1>if I could tell you anything about this episode, it
<v Speaker 1>was clean, it was crisp, and boy was it was fun.
<v Speaker 1>I might have to put that on a shot after all.
<v Speaker 3>Bye, guys,