Hour 2 - Malcolm Butler, Booger McFarland

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Butler, a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Hero and of course had one of the great plays in NFL history, if not the greatest play because it won a Super Bowl for the Patriots. He will join us. Coming up in a moment. We'll also have Booger McFarlane from the Mothership stopping by. And final hour the Cowboys Cede Lamb and Mike Rico and Chris Collinsworth will join us. They are of course calling Super Bowl sixty. You can see that on NBC and which is where you can see this program Monday through Friday.

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Speaker 2: Also, the NBC.

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Speaker 3: Sports Network pole question for hour two is gonna be what seton?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got up there right Now, if you're a neutral, who are you rooting for the Patriots or the Seahawks. That's now up to over eighty one percent for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I got I love it. Uh.

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Speaker 4: Marvin had a poll question possibly last week that was really interesting that works today. But the greatest play with a name in NFL history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Malcolm Butler's play doesn't have any kind of nickname.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. Yes, Martin, should we cut the Butler did it? No? That's it's kind of just like the Malcolm Butler play, right, Yeah, right, I was just asking a question.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know, I know, but that was a Fritzy one, and I gotta be fair. If I'm gonna rip Fritzy, I gotta rip you.

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Speaker 2: Well, Malcolm was in the middle when I picked that up. Kind of want to do come up with something. I don't know. Malcolm's in the middle. You can't say Malcolm in the That was an actual show. Thank you, Todd.

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Speaker 3: By the way, we have rime Time coming up a little bit later on Fritz. He's been working on that. Paulie says, in thirty minutes, we're doing rime Time.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 3: Wow, but you're also adding Huey Lewis and the News to this.

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Speaker 6: I suggested maybe it would be fun for those of a certain age that when when someone gets it right, I sing like a line or two from one of the popular Huey Lewis and the News songs. If if we want to have fun with that, just like a quick but do you don't have to for me?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I think I feel like I have Okay, because Hughie is from the Bay Area, right, okay, and they had some.

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Speaker 2: Big hits that album Sports and we're a sports show. There's all kinds of connections there. I know Big Fly Fisherman too. He lives in Montana.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, paul I got a thing from Sports Illustrated just a couple of years ago. They used all different people in the media the greatest play in Super Bowl history, and Malcolm Butler's interception is number one.

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Speaker 2: They don't have a name for it.

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Speaker 7: Others they do have name for the helmet catch, the Philly Special, and.

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Speaker 2: There's a more, but those are the ones with names.

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Speaker 3: But James Harrison's interception against Arizona oh Man, that was incredible.

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Speaker 2: That might be underrated.

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Speaker 3: It's it's kind of forgotten. It was at the end of the first half. But in fact, Larry Fitzgerald didn't. He go out of bounds, came back in and he was trying to, you know, race to get James Harrison.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the most underrated super Bowl play is the Mike Jones tackle at the end of the Super Bowl against the Titans on Kevin Dyson.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, Uh, I don't know. He wasn't going to score. Who wasn't good to score? He's right at the end zone. That's not at the one yard line. Yeah, it might have been like at the two. They kind of they made it seem like it was little. Was at least at the one and a half yard thank you?

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Speaker 7: Yes, it was twenty three sixteen with six seconds to go, they would have tied it or gone for two.

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Speaker 2: He said, like I got he got tackled at the forty.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying that's it's the greatest player Mike Johnes' career. Clearly it is. Yeah, Yeah, it is? Who Yeah? All right?

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Speaker 3: So eight seven seven three DP show. We'll try to sneak in a few phone calls here, and are we updating a poll question for hour two Seaton or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to populate the name poll question.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, or I'd like to know why do you hate the Patriots or why would you be rooting against the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Because it's too early for them to be back.

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Speaker 4: This They're supposed to be down right now, and instead they're back in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It's too fast, okay. Malcolm Butler joined us.

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Speaker 3: He came by yesterday after the show was over, and he, of course I think he was listed as the fifth defensive back for the Patriots in that Super Bowl against Seattle. We of course know what happened with Marshawn Lynch getting down to the one and a half yard line. We thought Marshawn Lynch was going to get the ball, and Seattle decided that Russ was going to pass. And there have been varying opinions of did Seattle and Pete Carroll want to make Russell Wilson the MVP and not Marshawn Lynch. Therefore they had Russ throw that ball, whether you believe it or not. Malcolm Butler, we talked about his presidence of mind to be able to read the play, make the interception, and the Patriots ended up winning the game. So I asked Malcolm Butler, what's the first thing that Patriot fans say to him?

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Speaker 9: You're the goat, thank you, thank you, thank you for that play.

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Speaker 2: You never by a drunk again. But when I go up to use my car.

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Speaker 3: But the yeah, they still make you pay sometimes, Okay, But that impact that it had on people's lives, I'm curious, like, do people get emotional when they come up to thank you for that play?

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Speaker 2: Most definitely.

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Speaker 9: One day, one guy kissed my hand and I think the security I had tell him, like, don't just leave him alone.

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Speaker 2: He could It's all good. But yeah, man, I lett.

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Speaker 9: Heard some some terrific stores, some heart feeling stores. This guy dad, he said his dad was having counselor or something like that, and I made the play and he say that's the day his dad recovered from it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, like things like that.

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Speaker 9: It'd be nice things. So like, yeah, yeah, blessed man, real blessed.

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Speaker 2: So you're healing people, healing myself. If you ain't heal, you can't heal nobody else. I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how often do you talk about that? Do your family bring up that play?

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Speaker 9: I think they know me enough to not treat me like a groupie. Yeah, they talk about it. Yeah, I think about it actually at least once a week. I'm like, I told everybody else, like, I go take the trash out and I see my Tom Brady truck in the garage. I say, it's a trophy, not a truck. But oh, I believe I'd be so thankful. Manda's somebody gonna remind me on social media or I go somewhere where everybody knows me and stuff like that, I'd be like, aren't you Malcolm? Ib like, yeah, I am.

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Speaker 2: Do you realize I was handing out the super Bowl Trophy. I was up on the podium.

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Speaker 3: Yep, I'm handing the MVP to Tom with the keys to the truck.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I came this close on live TV in front of a hundred million people saying, don't you think Malcolm Butler deserves this? I almost said that, and I thought it's not my position to say it. I would wait for somebody else to do it, but I couldn't. It's the greatest play in Super Bowl history, and you turned a loss into a win, and I just thought, Tom's got to give you that truck. So when did he come to the realization that you deserved the truck.

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Speaker 9: Well, i'll tell you what I since I got a little older, he can give.

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Speaker 2: Me that trouphy. He had that truck. But oh well, I forgot what you said about When when did he give you the truck?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Man, I'm not sure whenever he said, hey, you can have a truck.

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Speaker 2: Was it after the game? I guess, I don't know. My mind was everywhere. My mind was everywhere.

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Speaker 9: I beating new people, news reporter chasing me around.

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Speaker 2: Robert Krofft asked me what was my name? I said, I worked for you. I worked for you, man, hold on, hold on? How did Robert Craft not know who you were? I was buried on the depth truck. Okay, yeah, but you're on the roster. Yeah, but he don't know everybody's name. Trust me. When did he ask you who you were? It was? I know, we took a picture in the locker room.

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Speaker 9: I went did some stuff with and came back, and then I went to a Celtics game with him, and that was my first time ever going upstairs at at the Patriots Way and You're.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'll sit down, young man. So what's your name?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Y?

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Speaker 2: So like that's that's yo. Yoh wow. No, nice guy, nicest guy ever. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 5: It's I love my kids.

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Speaker 2: I love Denzel Washington. I love a lot of people. But I tell you what, Marble Kraft one of them. Yeah, trust me now that he knows your name. Oh yeah. Talking to Malcolm.

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Speaker 3: Butler, an ambassador for the American Diabetes Association. So for the last eleven years, he's hosted a free football camp over three thousand kids in his hometown of Vicksburg, Mississippi. Also big supporter of the United Way of Central Mississippi. What do you tell these kids? What's the one message?

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Speaker 2: Oh, just do it, take advantage. Just do it, man. You can't start the game over.

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Speaker 9: It's not mad, it's not Fortnite. You gotta do it, baby, you gotta do it. And man giving back to the community. I've seen guys go to the CFL that came to my camp, go to the CFL Rookie of the Year. Some guys made it to the league, somebody, some guys got cut. Ben Brown that played for the Patriots right now, it's from Vicksburg, Mississippi with the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Was he in one of these camps?

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Speaker 9: I don't know if he came, but it feels like I made an impact on my city.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's Dad played also, But like a.

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Speaker 9: Kid seeing you from the same hometown and seeing you doing like that's pre motivation. I wish I had somebody that went to the NFL and came back to my city and gave back, And like, it's more than just about.

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Speaker 2: These people seeing you on TV. They want to see you in real life and touch and feel you. Just not kiss your hand. Nah, don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Now, come on, Okay, they come up to the line of scrimmage, yep, what do you what goes through your mind right then when you see the formation because Marshawn's on the right side of Russ, he goes on the left side of Russ.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Now what are you thinking? Okay, so.

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Speaker 9: At the end of the day, you supposed to run the ball, but I played cornerback.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making that tackle. I'm not making that tackle.

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Speaker 9: If you throw a toss, yes, I gotta set the edge, but I'm not making that tackle. And there like just knowing football, well, I knew a little bit football before I got to the patient, but I learned more like all the routes.

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Speaker 2: You can't do too many routes.

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Speaker 9: And we was playing Man and the message around the building was just do your job.

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Speaker 2: So I couldn't do nothing else up, no run or nothing. But I said, if this guy run, his ball is on.

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Speaker 9: But before that I seen Russ. He just kept lord forgetting Russ. I just kept seeing him looked that way. He kept looking, and I said, something ain't right.

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Speaker 2: But if it ain't murdered the player, he's looking. Yeah, he's looking. You know, like what wide receiver, what cornerback? Wide receiver?

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Speaker 9: Not gonna check they surrounded, especially if you're getting that ball, you gonna look where you're going and see what's going on over there. And that's a little tactic that I learned from high school. And like it's a nub tight end and the running back in the backfield. I don't have a wide receiver. I look at the running back and he'll be looking this way. I said, yeah, he ain't coming this way. But then I got beat sometimes for being nosy.

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Speaker 3: But then Browner jams the receiver. Yeah, so he can't pick you one hundred percent. And as soon as you see that, since you guys had already practiced that earlier in the week. You knew exactly where that ball was going or where you needed to go.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 9: So we go line up so a practice this that was kind of wider, but like in the game, it was like they was like directly a line right there with each other. And I get in I'm like, oh lord, I hope we don't have to do the opposite. Like when he got the when he pressed, he got the guy in the back, and then I got the guy in the front. But he said, just get him. So when I get up there, I touch him. You can go watch the footage.

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Speaker 2: I touched him on the on the on the button. I'm like, hey, who I got who? I got it? So he said, you got the guy in the back.

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Speaker 9: And like I said, if it was a run, you were in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were in trouble. Yeah, we was in trouble. Game over yeah, and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I just kept seeing them and then I said, if this guy running any kind of he do any any kind of crossover, will move, I'm gone.

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Speaker 2: It's sorry if I'm wrong, but I was right. I just took a chance and didn't like me tipping the ball with Curse. Oh my god.

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Speaker 9: And then I get out the game. I'm like, it's my fault. And then I get back in the game. I said, I don't know what I can do with this little opportunity, but I'm gonna make the best of it.

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Speaker 3: Did you think that you were going to be out of the game because Curse made that play?

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, well that was out the game, I know, but you weren't going to get back in exactly.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, but Curse made a crazy play. Yeah, you played great defense on that play.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was on him now yeah, yeah, that's not your fault. Yeah, but where did you get to keep them on? Man? Look, oh I tell you that. I tell you this.

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Speaker 9: After the game, Patrick Tung was coming up to me like here here here, I'm like, man, hold on now, I'm chilling.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's up. So I gotta go back to mister Crown. A few days later, I said, hey, mister crawb you got that ball. He said, it's in the Hall of Fame. I think it's safer that but he didn't say who are you then? No, no, no, no, we already established that.

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Speaker 3: Why do the questions why would they still remain about playing one play against the Eagles and then not playing the rest of that game.

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Speaker 9: Oh no, I just think it was a coaching's decision. And I know people ask me that over and over.

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Speaker 2: That's that's the truth.

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Speaker 3: But but you have to be able to ask Bill that question at some point after that.

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Speaker 2: You never did. Yeah, we had a conversation, grown man conversation. Okay, talk to each other, you know, being grown man about it. But I got the tar Heels number if you wanted to excell, you know.

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Speaker 3: To his credit, he never said why he did it because and maybe that's a different way of looking at it, but he had something. You guys had something. You had a conversation, and he kept that private. And there it's hard to keep things private. And I after all these years, no one said anything about White play you one play and not play you and your defense gets torched by Nick Foles.

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Speaker 9: I said the same thing too, But you know, coachy decision. But like, even though I played like ten, you need nothing about two or three stops, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you only played on the kickoff. Yeah, exactly. Great out of ninety nine per PFF went crazy that week.

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Speaker 3: If you're cool with the situation. Then I'm cool with this.

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Speaker 9: Man, I'm good. I ain't saying I'm cool. Well, I had to get over, trust me, I had to get over.

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Speaker 2: But how long did that take? Oh? Man, it took. It took a little damage to me to Tennessee. Oh when you went to the Tigers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it took a little damage with me. Like like like I'm a I'm a good person. Noh like and if you do something wrong to me, like it's on. But like fick skin, just keep moving forward.

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Speaker 2: You can't. You can't dwell on the pad. So yep, it's great to see you.

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Speaker 3: And congratulations the play that I think is the greatest one in NFL history.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just sorry you don't have the football. At least go to the Hall of Fame and put your hand on it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've been there. I don't think I don't. Hey, they probably lock you up you go up that touch and that stuff. Man.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, they talked me for a ticket one time. I had taken my hood off me.

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Speaker 2: I said, I, Malcolm, come on here, sweetie. Should have worn your jersey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for real, Thank you for stopping by, man, Thank you for having me. Man, what a likable guy. Malcolm Butler of the Patriots and of course an ambassador for the American Diabetes Association. Also, he's hosted a free football camp in his hometown of Vicksburg, Mississippi. There's so much there to unpack when you think about it. It's one play, but what went into one play. I'm going to take a break and then come back and talk about just the nuance of everything that happened in that moment and in real time. Booger McFarlane will join us on loan from the Mothership. But we'll take a break. We're back after this from San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know. And then all of a sudden, he sees Russell.

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Speaker 3: Wilson look over, He sees the receivers start to peek a little bit. He gets tapped by Browner on his butt. I think that says, Okay, you're going that way, I'm going this way. And he said, if they ran the ball, so Marshawn Lynch is right there to the right of Russell, and he said, if they gave the ball to Marshawn, we had no chance. Marshawn goes to the other side of Russ and we still think Marshawn's getting it. But Malcolm said, as soon as he knew that he was free to go to the ball because Browner had jammed the receiver and kept him from setting a pick. And even then, I mean, there's so much more nuance that we're finding out about that play and the fact that Robert Kraft didn't know who. Malcolm Butler was like, who are you? You see that trophy? I'm responsible for that, and that Brady did eventually give him the Super Bowl truck. Booger McFarland of the Mothership, ESPN, NFL College Football Analyst and you can see him NFL primetime right after Super Bowl sixty on ESPN and the ESPN app We make way for a friend of the show, Booger McFarland looking swim.

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Speaker 2: How we're doing, man, my god, goodness, see.

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Speaker 5: You, gentlemen, gentlemen, how we doing, How we're doing.

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Speaker 2: How we're doing?

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for getting up early. Or is this early for you?

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Speaker 5: Well, technically it's ten thirty on the East Coast, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of late for me. Are you playing golf out here?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Where are you playing?

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Speaker 5: San Francisco Golf Club played there yesterday, going back hopefully tomorrow. So good week so far.

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Speaker 2: One of my top five golf courses in the world.

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Speaker 5: Give me the other four.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I have, like Augusta.

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Speaker 5: That's one, Cyprus, Okay, hadn't played that one yet.

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Speaker 3: Saint Andrews for the history. Yep, Pebble Beach, you can have a bad round, but not a bad day at Pebble Beach.

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Speaker 2: Pine Valley.

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Speaker 5: I'll give you my top five. So San Francisco's definitely one. Riviera Marion I'm partial to. There's a place in South Carolina called Lone Cove, and then there's a little hidden gym in the low Country called Secession.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so those are my top five.

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Speaker 3: We had Bo Jackson on yesterday and I played golf with Bow and Jim McMahon, and it's interesting to see football players think they can out muscle the golf ball and been there.

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Speaker 2: And Eddie George and there Eddie George.

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Speaker 3: I played with him one time. He couldn't understand how I was out driving him because he's Eddie George. I said, Eddie, there are guys who were five five, one hundred and fifty pounds that were going to out and drive you. And he couldn't understand. Both said, if that ball was moving ninety five miles an hour, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 2: But it's just there.

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Speaker 3: It's just stationary. And he said he hadn't been able to figure out that game yet.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's one of those things I think all golfers, especially former athletes, get addicted to the game because of that reason. The ball doesn't move and mentally, you think, I can do whatever I want to this ball, and theoretically you can't, but really you can't.

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Speaker 3: The Malcolm Butler play, there's so much nuanced to that and just the fact that he's you know, he's still kind of unpacking things where it's like, you know, I did this, and then we did this, and I see Russ looking and then Marshawn's on this side. If he runs, we can't stop him. He goes to the other side. And it's the most important play in Super Bowl history. And I listen to you guys talk about all the nuanced on that play. But the guy that I work with the NFL Prime Time takes it to another level. He says, think about the macro effect if they hand the ball to Marshawn Lynch and he scores. Now we're talking about two in a row for the Seahawks and Russell Hall of Famer and Russell.

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Speaker 5: Hall of Famer. Now the questions come in about the Patriots, and when you add up the fact they lost to the Giants, they would have lost this one. Like if you look at the ramifications of what would have happened had that play changed, Because remember when Marshawn didn't get it and the Patriots won, that team kind of splinterah and you didn't see it anymore. So that play was significant in the micro, but think about the macro effect.

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Speaker 2: And the legacies that changed on.

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Speaker 5: Both sides for both of those teams.

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Speaker 2: Why call that play?

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Speaker 5: You know, sometimes coaches think they're smarter than everyone else. And I don't think the conspiracy theories that we're going to try to make Russ hero are true. I honestly think that they thought, hey, they're gonna sell out to stop the run. We'll have a one on one opportunity in the stack. It'll be a pick, it'll be an easy touchdown. Yes, Russ gets the credit, but it will be a lot easier to throw the ball in and running. It's kind of like, why do teams go shotgun from the one yard line because, hey, the numbers say there's less of a chance for a fumble snap in the shotgun. Yeah, but you're handing the football all five yards from where you want to go when you're only six inches from there. So coaches, sometimes I'll smart themselves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those where you're going, how about a run pass option that way, If you do pass it, it's not gonna be in traffic, or Russ can run it in. Yeah, I'm still I'm still amazed at that call. But if I'm trying to be too smart, I don't want to try to be too smart against Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know what, it's one of those things that everybody at home, we knew what the play should have been and it wasn't. And it's still the thing, Like it's one of those sports things that we think about. You're like, yeah, that easily should have went the other way. The best team, the best team didn't win the game. It's kind of like when the coach played the Saints, and Jeff Saturday talks about this all the time, the best team didn't win the game. The coach were clearly the better team, but because of coaching and Sean Payton's surprise onside kick and Drew Brees playing lights out, the Saints won, which kinds of kind of brings us to this game, like the Seahawks are the overwhelming favorite. I think the Seahawks are the better team. If we go man for man, if the fifty three man roster. Seattle should win this game very handily. What does Mike Rabel do to offset that?

00:26:43
Speaker 3: Well, he's got to make Darnold uncomfortable, right, put him in passing situations.

00:26:51
Speaker 5: The conventional wisdom says that in order for the Patch to win, the game needs to be played in the high teens, low twenties. If it gets high twenty on the thirties, I don't think the Patriots can score that much. Mike Rabel knows this. So how do you keep the game in reach? Defense has got to play lights out. You gotta affect Sam Donald. Sam Donald is one of the greatest recognition stories that we've seen. I was on the call of the game where he says, I'm seeing ghosts. The thing about where he is now compared to where he was then. To me in America, those stories where you fail and then you succeed are kind of what this country's about. And I think that's why everybody's gravitated toward him. And within the great story. You forget he's led the league in turnovers this year.

00:27:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's led it. But Drake May has been sacked fifteen times in the postseason.

00:27:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Drake May's got two rookies on the offensive line on the left side. Drake May is in his second year. Drake May is still growing. I think Drake May also when protected, he's pushed the football down the field to guys that I don't know if anybody in these stands can name, you know, Pop Douglas, Kay, Shine Boody, you know mac Allins. Like guys, you're like, okay, does he really have a number one or number two? Stefan Diggs And so Drake May, I thought should have won the MVP no offense to Matthew Stafford. To me, he did more with less. I think that he'll be an MVP in the future, especially when he gets some more weapons. But he's got to play the game of his life for them to win.

00:28:21
Speaker 3: Why is it people are rooting for Seattle or not rooting for New England. We have a poll question Seeton, would you give booger the results of how people are are? It was like eighty percent of people responding.

00:28:34
Speaker 2: To something like that. Currently eighty two eighty two percent are rooting for Seattle.

00:28:39
Speaker 5: You know, we still associate the Patriots with Tom Brady, Robert Craft, the dynasty. They've won six super Bowls, and like it or not, when one team wins a lot, man, it turns. Think about how fast it turned on Kansas City. I mean it turns because for some reason, dynasties are not something that we, I guess we salivate over. It's cool to see him Rose at the top, but at some point, let somebody else win. At some point, let's move on. And I think when you look at New England, because of that, because of the spygate, because of the Flaygate, because of all the outcry about Bill Belichick not getting in, because of the outcry about Robert Craft not getting in the Hall of Fame, everything around this team, you could simously make an argument Jerry Jones may call me as soon as I get off this set. The Patriots have been America's team, like you can make it. You can make an argument based on based on their relevancy over the last twenty five years. They've taken over them, but they're not national. The Cowboys are still national. The Cowboys still have it again. You can make a case the Cowboys still are because of the worldwide fame, because of what Jerry Jones has done. But if you look at the success and what's happened over the last twenty five years. Man, the Patriots have been the most relevant team in our sport. Kansas City tried to take it over. They won six super Bowls. That relevant doesn't make you popular, no, but relevant makes you either loved or hated. And that's what you just asked me. Why do people want Seattle to win this game? Because people have taken a side that they don't like the Patriots?

00:30:16
Speaker 2: Why are you yelling at me?

00:30:17
Speaker 5: Because I'm trying I'm trying to convince you and and and have this comment. Plus I don't see you, but once a year, okay, you know, so I'm kind of exciting.

00:30:25
Speaker 2: And there's a reason for that because you're yelling at me all the time.

00:30:27
Speaker 5: I don't know, that's that's not the case. I don't know. Just stayed at home and got this well hopefully hopefully when you if you get it at home, there's there's a little bit more, uh that there's a better ending.

00:30:39
Speaker 2: Booger Booger McFarlane joining us.

00:30:42
Speaker 3: You can see him on the NFL primetime right after the Super Bowl in the ESPN and the ESPN F what's a more disgusting nickname booger or Mark Schlereth being called.

00:30:52
Speaker 5: Stink, Well, it's got to be stink because stink. As soon as you hear stink, your mind goes to a certain place and it's and it's not a place that you can convince yourself that it's not when you hear booger. There are several people that I've met in life that have been called booger before.

00:31:09
Speaker 2: Really, yes, because it's.

00:31:12
Speaker 5: One of those. It's not it's not typical, but it's not on Did.

00:31:17
Speaker 2: You say it's snot typical? Is that what you just said?

00:31:21
Speaker 5: That's not That's not good, Dan, Are you kidding me? No?

00:31:24
Speaker 2: No, that was good. That was unscripted.

00:31:27
Speaker 5: It was very unscripted. It was closed, but it missed. If Van Peld said that, you would have been known. Well no, not necessarily. No, No, No, Scotty, I love Scotty. Scotty has a Scott has got a real dry sense of humor. That's that's why I listen. It works perfect at midnight.

00:31:47
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, okay, So we've we've established that Seattle is the better team. Doesn't mean they're gonna win. If I did you have an m v P vote, No, I didn't okay, and you would have voted for Greg. Okay, I agree that Drake May was more valuable to his team, But how do you equate what Stafford did? Okay, he's got great head coach, he has all these weapons. Yeah, but you still got to produce with all of those weapons there, which he did. It's like with Mahomes when he had Hill and he had Kelsey.

00:32:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should be great. Yeah.

00:32:25
Speaker 5: Here's how I say that, And I try to bring it back to things that people can relate to. If you got two great cooks and they both are a world reclaimed, if I give one cook more ingredients and more options, they can make a better meal than the other cook. It's as simple as that, because you are a product of the environment and the ingredients that you have to work with. The knowledge is great, but to your point, you got to go about it. You got to go out and get it done. And it's really simple. Man, Drake May did more or less. He didn't have Pook and the Coup and Devonte Adams he doesn't have. Maybe you can argue that Sean McVay and people often says one of the greatest minds. Nothing against Josh McDaniels because he won Assistant Coach of the Year and he should have. Mike Rabel won Coach of the Year. But when it comes to the weapons, pooking the core, Kiren Williams, I mean, just DeVante Adams, the way they run the football outstanding what they had, like anybody would come and since Stefon Diggs coming off in acl Pop Douglas Kayshaun Boody a recommision project, that's been awesome. Matt Collins, you got a rookie running back, you got two rookies on the left side of the offensive line. Just it's New England. I think it's going to be really good for a long time. They've overachieved this year and I think it's been because of the coaching staff. In the quarterback.

00:33:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like they're a year ahead of schedule, which is okay.

00:33:41
Speaker 5: Which if they win this Super Bowl, imagine what imagine the expectations will have next year if somehow Mike Rabel puts this team in a situation where it's in the fourth quarter and it's a one score game and they have the ball and they win this game. Because I think ultimately that's what it has to be. If you're see out of you want this game ten to fourteen points middle of the third quarter. But if you're the Patriots, you just want to be Can I still see them?

00:34:08
Speaker 3: You know?

00:34:09
Speaker 5: It's kind of like, get to the back nine. If I get to the back nine, I got two part five and I'm down two strokes, I'll take my chances. I think. If you're Mike very but that's the way you want to.

00:34:19
Speaker 2: Get to best quarterback you ever sacked.

00:34:22
Speaker 5: Best quarterback I ever sacked, Freikman.

00:34:28
Speaker 2: Did you say anything to him?

00:34:30
Speaker 5: No, because I wanted to get up and dance and celebrate. I wasn't you know. I wasn't a big trash talker. Lets you talk to me. But the funniest moment that ever happened on the football field. We're playing the Dallas Cowboys, and it had been built up all week. Larry Allen future Hall of Famer, Warree Sap, future Hall of Famer. So they break the huddle and because of the def missive formation, I was lined up against Larry Allen. I say, hey, man, I told Brooks, I don't care what the flip the call. They didn't come to see me over here. Let's put sap over there. Put me on the other side, because that's what I want. Because when Larry Allen broke the huddle, I'm his first player the game. He's got a dip in in all right, He's got like snuff or whatever, tobacco. It's running down his lip. I wasn't scared. I didn't want to see that at the first play. I just get just being honest with you. We have meat ready for it, Let's do it. I love it. I heard it was the stakes.

00:35:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have tomahawnk good.

00:35:28
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure they're probably not cooked to the right temperature.

00:35:31
Speaker 2: Wow.

00:35:32
Speaker 5: And so therefore I'm just gonna tell you the chef just to leave mine own a little longer, all right.

00:35:38
Speaker 2: Do you do that when you go to somebody's house, you tell them how to cook.

00:35:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I don't tell him how to cook, but usually they ask you what you want. My chef can hear you right now, I know, and so if he can hear me, I'm just telling the chef just listen. Most chefs get offended when I asked, hey, you know what I need a little bit more than you, knocking the horns off and wiping his tail a little bit more, Just a little bit more.

00:36:03
Speaker 3: He's Booger McFarlane. You can see it with Chris Berman. That'll be right after the Super Bowl on ESPN, ESPN Plus. We'll take a break. If you're watching on Peacock, we'll go out and visit our meat display there for Booger.

00:36:16
Speaker 2: Back after this.

00:36:17
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00:36:29
Speaker 3: We kind of jumped the gun on Meet Friday, but we wanted to treat Booger McFarlane our thanks to Heartland Steak Company providing all of the meals this week. By the way, Super Bowl Sunday, if you can't be here to watch it live. The TCL Ultimate Series. These TVs are. They're gorgeous, QM AK, QM nine K and TCL the official TV partner of the NFL, Available at all major retailers. Let me sneak in a phone call. Todd has rime time coming up. Buddha in San Francisco joining us. Good morning, Buddha.

00:37:07
Speaker 8: Body hold up, Dad, hold up, hold up, Ah, I got it. I gotta open up my Miller light and I just want to say thank you Dan for this week. You guys have been awesome and amazing all the brgs and all I want to hear from accovey Cove out here is Ru's got it better than us.

00:37:29
Speaker 2: Thank you. Buddha.

00:37:30
Speaker 3: Buddha goes out to McCovey Cove during baseball season trying to get home run balls, and he's out there on his little raft there.

00:37:40
Speaker 2: All right, Todd, let's do rhyme time. How do we do it? All? Right? Here we go? Eminem movie man in charge.

00:37:46
Speaker 6: These are all San Francisco related things. Could be coaches, players, landmarks, Eminem.

00:37:52
Speaker 2: Movie man in charge. So eight mile and the head coach of the forty nine ers eight Mile Kyle. Now you know like that? Okay, Okay, let's try this one.

00:38:05
Speaker 6: Some total eclipse of the heart hard hitter and secondary sung. Total eclipse of the heart hard hitter and secondary something lot.

00:38:13
Speaker 2: We were looking for. Bonnie and Ronnie. Oh, Bonnie and Ronnie Ronnie Bonnie Tyler, Bonnie Tyler from San Francisco. No but Ronnie love play.

00:38:22
Speaker 6: It's not both the won't be necessary both related to it like Savannah Baseball and Cool Savannah baseball and Cool.

00:38:30
Speaker 2: Montana. Are you doing the Huey Lewis songs? They say? The harder rock and roll. I'm just gonna do it like one life for you.

00:38:38
Speaker 6: Okay, ladder step scrambling, lefty, ladder step scrambling, lefty rung young run you on a new drug, old spill wood carving method, tight end wood carving method.

00:38:55
Speaker 2: Believe in love.

00:38:57
Speaker 6: Draft prediction list, Quarterback Draft prediction list quarterback?

00:39:04
Speaker 2: What kind of draft with those things that come out? Mock brock, mock brock. You feel the power, love, You feel the power.

00:39:13
Speaker 6: Sticky candy all purpose, sticky candy, all purpose player?

00:39:18
Speaker 2: Uh, taffy all purpose niner could throw it to him, He'll run the ball. Taffy Cafe does that rhyme taffy and taffy and macafri.

00:39:32
Speaker 5: I think so.

00:39:33
Speaker 2: If this is it, please let me know.

00:39:36
Speaker 6: Okay, Overnight star reason for injuries, Overnight star, reason for injuries?

00:39:44
Speaker 2: What do you call it? Overnight start? Overnight and what's over at the practice facility?

00:39:49
Speaker 6: Why these niners all get our station sensation and substation Santa's disposition, cable car at this disposition, A cable car.

00:40:03
Speaker 7: For that?

00:40:03
Speaker 5: I have to go.

00:40:05
Speaker 2: I'm doing it all for my baby, Okay, hoops Coach.

00:40:09
Speaker 6: Comedian Bill hoops Coach has been on the show comedian Bill Kerr.

00:40:15
Speaker 2: To be square, to be in a.

00:40:18
Speaker 6: Rush, best behind the arc, to be in a rush, best behind the arc.

00:40:24
Speaker 5: There you go.

00:40:25
Speaker 2: I love it when we're cruising together.

00:40:30
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give you is that everything scalp eggs and receiver scalp eggs, receiver scalp eggs.

00:40:37
Speaker 2: When you have what a person has that in their scalp scalp eggs. Disgusting, but that's what it is. And I won't sing a song for on.

00:40:49
Speaker 6: Yeah, left his heart in this town. The giants won. This, left his heart in this town. The giants won this.

00:40:58
Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, I look at you, Mark, and is that it? I think they got them all. Bring you tied with the field behind him singing this is nice. Of course he's hot, and so we're running, running short. They're on on the hits. There are loving every night, a couple of repeats.

00:41:23
Speaker 4: It's actually a shocking number of songs though that we all knew. Yes, Huey Lewis, they had a lot of They had a lot of songs Yeah, super popular. I actually ran into a guy two nights ago. Goes fly fishing with Huey Lewis in Montana.

00:41:36
Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, it's always weird when a band gets that big and then people turn.

00:41:42
Speaker 2: That's that's an example one. But they had some bangers man.

00:41:45
Speaker 3: All right coming up the Cowboys wide receiver Ceed Lamb and the guys who were calling Super Bowl sixty FRIENDBC, Mike Trico and Chris Collinsworth. It's a Meat Friday Final Hour from San Francisco. The Minister of Humor, Fritz Seaton, Mark Paula, Yours truly, the back room guys, and a great audience here in San Francisco.

00:42:06
Speaker 2: We're back after this