Call of Duty Will No Longer Release Back-to-Back Black Ops or Modern Warfare Games

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 1>let's start the Morning Mess with Call of Duty will
<v Speaker 1>no longer release back to back black Ops or modern
<v Speaker 1>warfare games. This is from Chris Scullian at VGC. The
<v Speaker 1>studios behind the Call of Duty games have pledged to
<v Speaker 1>change their release strategy going forward, acknowledging that not every
<v Speaker 1>player is happy with the current state of the series.
<v Speaker 1>A message posted on the series as official website and
<v Speaker 1>signed by quote the Call of Duty team address some players,
<v Speaker 1>claims that the latest release, Call of Duty Black Ops
<v Speaker 1>seven wasn't up to the series's previous standards. Call of
<v Speaker 1>Duty has enjoyed long standing and success because of all
<v Speaker 1>of you, a passionate community that demands excellence and deserves
<v Speaker 1>nothing less. The message read, we also know that for
<v Speaker 1>some of you, the franchise has not met your expectations fully.
<v Speaker 1>To be fully clear, we know what you expect and
<v Speaker 1>rest assured we will deliver and over deliver on those
<v Speaker 1>expectations as we move forward. As part of this plan,
<v Speaker 1>the team has announced that it will be changing its
<v Speaker 1>strategy going forward, declaring we will no longer be doing
<v Speaker 1>back to back releases of Modern Warfare or Black Ops games.
<v Speaker 1>The reasons are any, but the main one is to
<v Speaker 1>ensure we provide an absolutely unique experience each and every year.
<v Speaker 2>Uh Man, part of me thinks like I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>part of me always.
<v Speaker 1>Thought that this whole Black Ops, Black Ops, Modern Warfare,
<v Speaker 1>and Modern Warfare.
<v Speaker 2>Like sort of Strategy was always just a stopgap. Sean.
<v Speaker 1>This always felt like a response to some other problem
<v Speaker 1>of trying to get development development back on track. I
<v Speaker 1>was not expecting them to like go back to this
<v Speaker 1>with like next year and the next two years releases
<v Speaker 1>like Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare Again. That would have
<v Speaker 1>been crazy. So part of me is like, Okay, they
<v Speaker 1>are They already weren't going to do that, so it's
<v Speaker 1>an easy and easy thing to promise, but they have
<v Speaker 1>they do you think that they have like addressed the
<v Speaker 1>issues that led them to this place in this point
<v Speaker 1>in the first place, because making these games is still
<v Speaker 1>big and complicated, and if anything has sort of a
<v Speaker 1>bump in the road, they're going to find themselves in
<v Speaker 1>a situation where it's like it might be hard to
<v Speaker 1>put out a Call of Duty game next year, and
<v Speaker 1>we could be in a what was the one that
<v Speaker 1>didn't have the single player campaign.
<v Speaker 3>Mar Warfare at three?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's like they could be in a situation
<v Speaker 2>l yeah, right, what.
<v Speaker 3>Oh you mean that didn't have one at all? Like
<v Speaker 3>back in the day was Black Ops four?
<v Speaker 2>Uh?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the one that was like, yeah, where they were
<v Speaker 1>planning to have a campaign and then they kind of
<v Speaker 1>they didn't and they still just put out a game
<v Speaker 1>that year.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, at the end they pivoted to black Ops with
<v Speaker 3>that or sorry, I'll blackout with that one.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Right, So it's like they are still going to
<v Speaker 1>have to rely on all these studios. They're gonna have
<v Speaker 1>to churn through one studio at a time put out
<v Speaker 1>a new game that when they have tried to veer
<v Speaker 1>away from black Ops and and modern warfare recently, it
<v Speaker 1>maybe hasn't always worked out quite as well. Uh So
<v Speaker 1>it's like they still have all the same problems. What
<v Speaker 1>do you think they can do here? And and really
<v Speaker 1>what do you think the future of Call of Duty is?
<v Speaker 3>Well, this is a weird one because this kind of
<v Speaker 3>reads to me as sorry, we got caught. Yeah, the report,
<v Speaker 3>the reporting on Mara war Fair was I think maybe
<v Speaker 3>even you just know this with MW three was supposed
<v Speaker 3>to be DLC for MW two. Yes's that's what everyone
<v Speaker 3>was saying. And so we just assumed that was a
<v Speaker 3>similar situation here with US seven because it really feels
<v Speaker 3>like it was ELC for six. It was adding on
<v Speaker 3>what was already in six and then adding a single
<v Speaker 3>player campaign that is stitched together other things and it yeah,
<v Speaker 3>like you said, with a stop gap, that's that's the
<v Speaker 3>most logical way to do a stop gap. If you
<v Speaker 3>insist on putting out a seventy dollars product, is yeah,
<v Speaker 3>turn that DLC that was, you know, hefty, and make
<v Speaker 3>it the full size game. But like people noticed, did
<v Speaker 3>they just think people wouldn't. And that's that's what the
<v Speaker 3>statement reads to me, is them putting out this statement
<v Speaker 3>to the press in hopes that trickles down to all
<v Speaker 3>the Call of Duty fans saying like, oh, you don't
<v Speaker 3>like this strategy that we came up with is well
<v Speaker 3>thought out strategy. You know what, we won't do that
<v Speaker 3>strategy anymore. We'll go back to the way you guys
<v Speaker 3>like us to do things. Please like us. That's what
<v Speaker 3>read's like to me, And I imagine that's what the
<v Speaker 3>business behind it is.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's uh, you know, they got away
<v Speaker 1>with it at least once, and then when they tried
<v Speaker 1>to do it again, you're right, people had learned and
<v Speaker 1>the excitement was not there for Black Ops seven. And
<v Speaker 1>now that's been reflected in we're getting this message instead
<v Speaker 1>of the typical expected message from the call of Duty team,
<v Speaker 1>which is we sold so many copies and made so
<v Speaker 1>much money in X number of days or weeks, and
<v Speaker 1>we didn't get that clearly. We're going to see probably
<v Speaker 1>reflected in the like Sirkana numbers, when Matt puts that
<v Speaker 1>out for the month, the launch month of Call of Duty,
<v Speaker 1>we're probably going to see that that game's not gonna
<v Speaker 1>maybe be number one for the year, which is unheard
<v Speaker 1>of in any year where there's not a new Rockstar
<v Speaker 1>game for a Call of Duty.
<v Speaker 3>Would it be do you think Battlefield or.
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be Battlefield Battlefield six I think be
<v Speaker 1>number one for the year. That doesn't mean Call of
<v Speaker 1>Duty couldn't catch up, but ea, I think came out
<v Speaker 1>after Call of Duty came out, and it's like Battlefield's
<v Speaker 1>the number one best selling shooter of the year.
<v Speaker 2>Or something like that.
<v Speaker 1>Them just basically saying it, so we'll see it, and
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think Battlefield continue to sell very well.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do think. Yeah, there's just fatigue with the
<v Speaker 3>series right now. Even my friends, you know, we play
<v Speaker 3>war Zone all the time because that's easy to get
<v Speaker 3>them into every every time because free. But you know,
<v Speaker 3>some of them are still subscribed to game Pass and stuff.
<v Speaker 3>Some do still buy the Call of Duty game every year.
<v Speaker 3>Nobody wanted to play Black Ops seven because they were
<v Speaker 3>all like, didn't we just play Black Ops six? Why
<v Speaker 3>would I want seven? I have a new Black Ops game? Like,
<v Speaker 3>didn't we just get burned with this with modern warfare?
<v Speaker 3>That's what they're saying to me. And you know, obviously
<v Speaker 3>they know I'm in the industry, so I tell them
<v Speaker 3>about some stuff. I keep them up to date. That
<v Speaker 3>was before I like even mentioned anything about Black Ops seven.
<v Speaker 3>They had already like known all this inf done their
<v Speaker 3>own research. So I'm like, Okay, my more casual friends know.
<v Speaker 3>Then this must be trickling out there like people. You know,
<v Speaker 3>not everyone is super well informed, but they ain't stupid.
<v Speaker 3>They know what they don't like. And yeah, I just
<v Speaker 3>think Activision needs to not be so cocky about their
<v Speaker 3>Call of Duty releases.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, eventually this does have I mean, and when
<v Speaker 1>I say eventually, like a grand timeline, Eventually this does
<v Speaker 1>have to break where it's like, we will get to
<v Speaker 1>a point where they have to figure out some way
<v Speaker 1>to go through a calendar year without releasing a real
<v Speaker 1>new Call.
<v Speaker 2>Of Duty like the math and the physics behind it.
<v Speaker 1>Eventually will just break where it's like the number of
<v Speaker 1>person hours it takes to produce these things, they simply
<v Speaker 1>will not be able to buy because it'll just be
<v Speaker 1>too much.
<v Speaker 3>Even even the simple answers that we would like to see,
<v Speaker 3>like CEOs taking pay cuts and stuff like that, even
<v Speaker 3>that isn't necessarily enough to make up for. Yeah, how
<v Speaker 3>many studios they've thrown at this game. I saw. I
<v Speaker 3>think when Lexi was reviewing Black Apps seven. She posted
<v Speaker 3>the startup screen for that game, and it has what
<v Speaker 3>like thirteen studio icons on here or something wild like that,
<v Speaker 3>and she was just like, this is so depressing. I'm like, yep,
<v Speaker 3>look at all these That's like remember when Xbox came
<v Speaker 3>up on stage and they're like, all these studios are
<v Speaker 3>making games for Xbox. It was like the same graphic,
<v Speaker 3>you know, the same type of graphic.
<v Speaker 2>Think about all those.
<v Speaker 3>Studios could have been making all their stuff right now,
<v Speaker 3>but nope, got it. Got to keep the Call of
<v Speaker 3>Duty machine fed.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, the Call of Duty will continue to be a
<v Speaker 1>very successful franchise.
<v Speaker 2>It'll make a lot of money.
<v Speaker 1>It's not going anywhere, but it does feel like this
<v Speaker 1>is a bit of an inflection point.
<v Speaker 2>They will not just need to use this as as an.
<v Speaker 1>Opportunity to remind fans we're gonna make the game you
<v Speaker 1>want to make. They will have to come up with
<v Speaker 1>new solutions. They will have to sort of transition this
<v Speaker 1>game into a future where it can be a little
<v Speaker 1>bit more nimble in terms of how it responds to
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, how people are playing games and how they're
<v Speaker 1>purchasing games. Obviously, the thing is with Call of Duty.
<v Speaker 1>The way that they solve that in the past is
<v Speaker 1>they kind of just expanded Call of Duty into all
<v Speaker 1>those places. We have Call of Duty and Call of
<v Speaker 1>Duty Mobile, we have Call of Duty and Call of
<v Speaker 1>Duty war Zone, and they so they've sort of saturated
<v Speaker 1>all of those points, and they are already making a
<v Speaker 1>ton of money from all these other things. It doesn't
<v Speaker 1>leave them a lot of opportunity to sort of be like, Okay,
<v Speaker 1>let's try something a little bit different with the core game.
<v Speaker 2>The core game kind of needs to continue to be
<v Speaker 2>what it is. I don't like.
<v Speaker 1>They can't just now have only a free to play
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty at some point ten fifteen years from now,
<v Speaker 1>even unless things change drastically. There's too much money on
<v Speaker 1>the line. Microsoft spent too much money on this thing,
<v Speaker 1>so it does kind of feel like it's like locked
<v Speaker 1>in place. It has to sort of be this thing.
<v Speaker 1>And that's where I'm like, oh, it's going to be
<v Speaker 1>very hard for them to continue to figure out how
<v Speaker 1>that works, especially on an annual basis.
<v Speaker 3>Right that's the problem that they're in. And you know,
<v Speaker 3>speaking to something near and dear to my heart, that's
<v Speaker 3>that like what we're seeing over with Pokemon, right y,
<v Speaker 3>a certain point, game freak realize, Oh, they won't just
<v Speaker 3>enjoy the slop every time, like this is still selling,
<v Speaker 3>but ooh, the people are actually mad about this one,
<v Speaker 3>like on all our social media channels and the YouTube
<v Speaker 3>comments and everything like that. Maybe we should slow down.
<v Speaker 3>And you know, that's why we don't have a new
<v Speaker 3>mainline one of those right now. I think that's yeah,
<v Speaker 3>the lace of the inflection point. That's where we're seeing
<v Speaker 3>called with call of Duty here. Even if this one
<v Speaker 3>still sells, you know, millions and millions of copies, at
<v Speaker 3>a certain point, you see the decline happen, and they
<v Speaker 3>need to prevent that from happening because so much is
<v Speaker 3>riding on Call of Duty being this gigantic thing or
<v Speaker 3>Activision Microsoft, you know, with Activision under them and everything
<v Speaker 3>like that. Yeah, it's it's gonna be devastating to a
<v Speaker 3>lot of people if something happens to call duty. And
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying like we we need to worry about
<v Speaker 3>call of do we need to save the franchise? No,
<v Speaker 3>I'm just worried about the people who could have their
<v Speaker 3>jobs impacted and everything like that, because that would be
<v Speaker 3>that would be devastating.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think it's it's not humorous but interesting,
<v Speaker 1>like the point of comparison for what, like how nimble
<v Speaker 1>this company is for this franchise is Pokemon. It's like,
<v Speaker 1>is the Pokemon company is game freak even a little
<v Speaker 1>bit more responsive than the Call of Duty teams. And
<v Speaker 1>maybe because teams are like spread all over the world.
<v Speaker 2>And it's much more difficult to steer that boat.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the grand total number of people working on Pokemon
<v Speaker 3>is inside it stuff like.
<v Speaker 1>One of those studios Hall of Duties though, Yeah, changes
<v Speaker 1>things a little bit, absolutely, so Yeah, maybe it'll actually
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more nimble. That's crazy, all right, let's
<v Speaker 1>keep going here. Take to establish his new two K
<v Speaker 1>Studio led by former execs from the Initiative. This is
<v Speaker 1>from Sophie McAvoy at Games Industry Dot is. Take two
<v Speaker 1>Interactive is higher the Initiatives Darren Gallagher and Brian Horton
<v Speaker 1>to form a new studio.
<v Speaker 2>At two K.
<v Speaker 1>Gallagher and Horton will will head an all new venture
<v Speaker 1>following the closure of their former studio. All new venture
<v Speaker 1>important there because they're not bringing anything with them that
<v Speaker 1>they worked on at the Initiative. There was like news
<v Speaker 1>stories shortly after the Initiative was shuttered by Microsoft after
<v Speaker 1>they canceled Perfect Dark because it's a bad corporation, and
<v Speaker 1>they were like, hey, maybe take two will take on
<v Speaker 1>the initiative, take on Perfect Dark, make that game, finish it.
<v Speaker 1>And then it broke down because Take two is like,
<v Speaker 1>if we're doing this, we get the IP and Microsoft,
<v Speaker 1>well no I might, I'm still using it. That's clearly
<v Speaker 1>not but that so broke down. There was that chance
<v Speaker 1>that could happen. It's not gonna happen now.
<v Speaker 2>Instead, Take two is like, let's try.
<v Speaker 1>Something from the ground up, and so they brought these
<v Speaker 1>people in to kind of make a whole new studio.
<v Speaker 1>We don't have any additional details to share it this time,
<v Speaker 1>but look forward to sharing updates on their work in
<v Speaker 1>the future.
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm a.
<v Speaker 1>Little encouraged by this idea that a publisher like Take
<v Speaker 1>two is still starting new studios. It did not feel
<v Speaker 1>like that was in the air right now that these
<v Speaker 1>companies would feel good about that. But maybe they were
<v Speaker 1>just very, very actually impressed by what they saw and
<v Speaker 1>like believed in it when Microsoft didn't, and they're like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>try to make something either like that or take your
<v Speaker 1>talents over here and make a game. I mean, Take
<v Speaker 1>Through will very very soon here be in a situation
<v Speaker 1>where there's going to be a lot of money coming
<v Speaker 1>in because of rock Star's Grand Theft Auto six, and
<v Speaker 1>they're going to want to invest that money to try
<v Speaker 1>to continue to have big hits in the future. So
<v Speaker 1>maybe now is the time to make a new studio.
<v Speaker 1>What do you think when you see the story?
<v Speaker 3>I think the key word for me is execs, because
<v Speaker 3>execs don't make a studio in my opinion, like they
<v Speaker 3>are part of it. Every team needs a leader, and
<v Speaker 3>the best projects that get out the door are the
<v Speaker 3>ones with good leaders. But this is not the initiative
<v Speaker 3>has been saved. This is two execs, are you know,
<v Speaker 3>getting another chance at this, whereas everyone else not so much.
<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't necessarily inspire much confidence in me, like, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>cool new new Tattoo studio. I don't I don't specifically
<v Speaker 3>see the through line here because you know, you know,
<v Speaker 3>maybe it'll be different, maybe they'll do something completely unrelated.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they will bring what they were doing with the
<v Speaker 3>Initiative over and like have a second chance at that
<v Speaker 3>with whoever they end up hiring. But I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>To me, it's kind of like, all right, good for you.
<v Speaker 2>I guess yeah.
<v Speaker 1>I mean the hope would be like they take people
<v Speaker 1>with them and then I'm sure they will.
<v Speaker 3>That's the hope. That's the yes, that's it's it's.
<v Speaker 2>A that's a messy thing and no guarantees for sure. Horton.
<v Speaker 1>You know Darren Gallagher, I think kind of goes back
<v Speaker 1>to God, where did he come from? Crystal Dynamics.
<v Speaker 2>I think that was where he was.
<v Speaker 1>He was It was his idea to like that makes
<v Speaker 1>sense to make have the initiative work with Crystal Dynamics
<v Speaker 1>and stuff on a perfect dark Horton was creative director
<v Speaker 1>at Xbox or yeah, whatever that means and seems like oversaw.
<v Speaker 2>The creative vision and execution over there.
<v Speaker 3>Man.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you ever saw the creative vision and execution
<v Speaker 1>at the initiative during the project, So yeah, okay.
<v Speaker 2>We'll see.
<v Speaker 1>I do hope that they are able to build a
<v Speaker 1>sizeable team and take on a lot of those people.
<v Speaker 1>The initiative was never that huge, so hopefully they're able
<v Speaker 1>to bring that full team back for the most.
<v Speaker 3>Part, it'd be nice.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's hit this next one.
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo expands Switch onlines in sixty four library with two
<v Speaker 1>classic platformers. This is from Jim Norman at Nintendo Life.
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo has today announced that it will soon be expanding
<v Speaker 1>the Nintendo Switch Online Plus Expansion Pack in sixty four
<v Speaker 1>library with a pair of classic three D platformers. Both
<v Speaker 1>ray Man two The Great Escape and Tonic Trouble will
<v Speaker 1>be added to the service on the seventeenth of December.
<v Speaker 1>That's this week, So expect to see a lot of
<v Speaker 1>floating hands. That's like, yeah, a week from now, I
<v Speaker 1>guess floating hands feet with no arms and legs attached
<v Speaker 1>to them. Yeah, those are you'd be soft platformers for
<v Speaker 1>the sixty four Tonic Trouble is actually before ray Man two.
<v Speaker 2>It's sort of like a pro to ray Man three D.
<v Speaker 1>Ray Man It's not bad, it's a pretty good game,
<v Speaker 1>and ray Man two is an actual classic, so this
<v Speaker 1>is this is pretty good.
<v Speaker 2>But man, that Donkey Kong sixty four is still not
<v Speaker 2>on there.
<v Speaker 1>It's weird at this point they're adding three you be
<v Speaker 1>soft three platformers, but still know Donkey Kong sixty four.
<v Speaker 2>Any love for ray Man or Tonic Trouble from you, Sean.
<v Speaker 3>Definitely not Tonic Trouble. I had to like google it
<v Speaker 3>right there and say, oh, right, that game, man, I
<v Speaker 3>think it was.
<v Speaker 1>An early one too, Like, yeah, ray Man two is
<v Speaker 1>good though, Like I play that.
<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed that, you know, and no Mario sixty four
<v Speaker 3>or something, which is you have always the problem with
<v Speaker 3>any three D platformer. On n sixty four, it was, hey,
<v Speaker 3>they had the best one, maybe even two this day,
<v Speaker 3>right out the gates. So it's hard to compete with that,
<v Speaker 3>you know. Yeah, with the whole Donkey Kong thing, like
<v Speaker 3>I do still think they still have to license that
<v Speaker 3>right because it is a rare game, like they have
<v Speaker 3>to do the co publishing thing.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, for for Donkey Kong ninety or ninety four,
<v Speaker 1>Donkey Kong sixty.
<v Speaker 2>Four, I don't think so.
<v Speaker 1>In that deal, they probably would have had the full
<v Speaker 1>copyright and the code and all that stuff. I mean
<v Speaker 1>maybe to maybe they have to have like an agreement
<v Speaker 1>to have like the rare logo show up the best
<v Speaker 1>one of the game.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's all I mean is because they do own
<v Speaker 3>that game. It's just a matter of like the rare
<v Speaker 3>copyright and everything like that. I have thought Audio was
<v Speaker 3>like they have to negotiate on per game basis nowadays.
<v Speaker 1>But maybe, but for some like Donkey Kong sixty four,
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine they would have made the agreement early
<v Speaker 1>on to be like, no, we own this in this
<v Speaker 1>logo showing up should not be a problem, and if
<v Speaker 1>it was, they would just take it out. Yeah, it's
<v Speaker 1>I think that's just them being a little bit strange
<v Speaker 1>about that that game in general, and about the rare games. Right,
<v Speaker 1>there's something else happening there because we have there's rare games,
<v Speaker 1>don't the Nintendo doesn't own right, there's GoldenEye on there.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you know Nintendo is a big part of that.
<v Speaker 1>But like, uh, it's perfect dark on there as well,
<v Speaker 1>but they do own GoldenEye. Maybe it's Perfect Dark that's
<v Speaker 1>on there that they don't fully own. Either way, they've
<v Speaker 1>done the work with Microsoft before, so they figured out
<v Speaker 1>for these other games, Doc Young sixty four. Who's who's
<v Speaker 1>to say what the reason is? But yeah, overall, how
<v Speaker 1>are you feeling about n s O these days? Whenever
<v Speaker 1>one of these pops up? I do still get pretty excited,
<v Speaker 1>and I don't necessarily know why. Sean Ily, Okay, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>such a Nintendo post.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's a big part of it for sure. But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I like playing these games on there.
<v Speaker 1>But I say that and then I'll play a little
<v Speaker 1>bit of them, and I usually don't play a ton,
<v Speaker 1>especially the sixty four games, especially these days they have
<v Speaker 1>a three D How do you feel about.
<v Speaker 3>It, Jeff? Do do a thought experiment with me? Lea,
<v Speaker 3>look directly to your right, do you? Are you looking
<v Speaker 3>at a machine that can play in sixty four games?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well yeah, so.
<v Speaker 3>Why are you excited about this? Your mark?
<v Speaker 2>Now?
<v Speaker 1>Tell me to look to my left too.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm I'll worry about what's over there. I know
<v Speaker 3>what's there.
<v Speaker 1>This is the shoot in sixty four and then the
<v Speaker 1>analog three D is right over there.
<v Speaker 2>There.
<v Speaker 1>We go literally in every direction, surrounded by I.
<v Speaker 3>Assume it would be a handle. I know it would
<v Speaker 3>be shoot hardware. Yeah. For me, it's just I'll emulate
<v Speaker 3>this stuff like or I'll looking at an analog three
<v Speaker 3>D because like, dang, that thing looks nice. We did
<v Speaker 3>that a quick look, and it's I could just pop
<v Speaker 3>a flash card in there and have access to all
<v Speaker 3>the games because I'm not getting into retro game collecting nowadays.
<v Speaker 3>That's for damn sure. But otherwise, yeah, emulation has gotten
<v Speaker 3>a lot better. Still not quite there with sixty four.
<v Speaker 3>As we saw with Nintendo launching the NSO service, it
<v Speaker 3>wasn't perfect. And that's kind of how I feel about
<v Speaker 3>ASSO in general. Like a lot of these games I
<v Speaker 3>still like, even own in some capacity. I purchased them
<v Speaker 3>on some platform. A couple I even have like old
<v Speaker 3>copies of, so you know, morality, I don't really care
<v Speaker 3>about that either. So yeah, I'm just going to do
<v Speaker 3>what's most accessible, and upgrading my NSO I'm still on
<v Speaker 3>the base plan is not the way that I would
<v Speaker 3>probably be doing that. So yeah, it's when I see
<v Speaker 3>announcements like this, it doesn't do anything for me, but
<v Speaker 3>I do like that they are adding more to the service,
<v Speaker 3>that more people have these games accessible to them. You know.
<v Speaker 3>It's it's we can underestimate how valuable it is that,
<v Speaker 3>like the average person can go back and play retro games,
<v Speaker 3>and we just have to hope that they're in a
<v Speaker 3>good form when they do so.
<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking of n sixty four.
<v Speaker 1>The Analog three D fun Tastic colors did just go
<v Speaker 1>on sale while we were While we were doing the show,
<v Speaker 1>people have started jumping in and picking them up.
<v Speaker 2>In chant, someone mentioned.
<v Speaker 1>Let's see the Grape Fire, Jungle and Gold Analog three
<v Speaker 1>D have all already sold out, So there you go.
<v Speaker 3>I was looking up the gold one.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the I have the Fantastic Orange real in sixty four.
<v Speaker 1>That's the one that I'm literally touching right now. Hi, everybody,
<v Speaker 1>I'm touching my Fantastic Orange in sixty four. I would actually,
<v Speaker 1>honestly probably just get that again. I was thinking about
<v Speaker 1>getting the Jungle of Green, but then I tucked myself
<v Speaker 1>out of it. I'm not getting one, and I'm glad
<v Speaker 1>they're selling out so I can't get one. How many
<v Speaker 1>in sixty four controllers do I have, Kyle, I have
<v Speaker 1>a few original but this one. I have like a
<v Speaker 1>ton of those eight bit dough three d's already. There
<v Speaker 1>are eight pit does sixty four. Those are I've got
<v Speaker 1>like five of those already, so it's bad or I
<v Speaker 1>four and then the original Colored one is coming whenever
<v Speaker 1>that releases, which I think is sometime next year.
<v Speaker 3>For now, that's my compromise. Yeah, I have one that
<v Speaker 3>I've been using on my PC for months now because
<v Speaker 3>that controller came out a while ago. And then yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I have the original Colors one, and then if I
<v Speaker 3>want to pick up and play on original hardware, oh,
<v Speaker 3>I'll try get three D at some point if that's
<v Speaker 3>still appealing to me. Yeah, I still have superstations still coming.
<v Speaker 3>We still got those superstations coming, and that those are misters,
<v Speaker 3>which basically does the same thing. So I'm doing my
<v Speaker 3>best to hold off for that.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>I expect that to get quite a bit of support
<v Speaker 1>in terms of whatever Bespoke needs it might have, which
<v Speaker 1>it's a mister, probably shouldn't have ton, but still much.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, there's a lot of ways to play
<v Speaker 1>in sixty four games, and you know, emulation is improving
<v Speaker 1>all the time. It's a little bit different than the
<v Speaker 1>time when you need a plugins and all that stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and.
<v Speaker 1>Those eight bit Dose sixty four controllers are great on PC.
<v Speaker 1>It's a good time to be looking back at these
<v Speaker 1>games for sure.
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take a quick break.
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we'll talk about how video games
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<v Speaker 1>back at it. Jeff Grubb, Turbo Sean. Let's do this.
<v Speaker 1>Netflix didn't attribute any value to Warner Brothers games in
<v Speaker 1>acquisition deal.
<v Speaker 2>This is from Jim Norman at Nintendo Life.
<v Speaker 1>We're sure that we won't be looking back on this
<v Speaker 1>quote with a suspicious eye down the line. Following Netflix's
<v Speaker 1>a eighty two point seven billion dollar acquisition agreement with
<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers Discovery Leader challenged by a separate offer from
<v Speaker 1>paramount Netflix co CEO president and director Gregory Peters has
<v Speaker 1>said WB Games didn't really factor into the company's decision.
<v Speaker 1>That's according to a recent earnings called where Peters and
<v Speaker 1>Theodore Sarrendos Sarandos the other co CEO. We're asked if
<v Speaker 1>Warner Brothers assets would enhance or accelerate success in Netflix's
<v Speaker 1>gaming plans. While they definitely have been doing some great
<v Speaker 1>work in the game space, Peters responded, we actually didn't
<v Speaker 1>attribute any value to that from the get go because
<v Speaker 1>they're relatively minor compared to the grand scheme of things,
<v Speaker 1>I guess. He went on to point out they got
<v Speaker 1>great studios and great folks working over there, you know,
<v Speaker 1>paid them lip service. I mean, of course, the person
<v Speaker 1>making the purchase is like going to say something like that,
<v Speaker 1>because if they attributed value for it, they'd have to
<v Speaker 1>pay that value. So the person spending the money is
<v Speaker 1>going to be a little bit more dismissive. Still, it's
<v Speaker 1>like shitty to hear, shitty to see, and.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's the what's the big Lebowski quote? You're not wrong,
<v Speaker 3>You're just an asshole.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're just an asshole.
<v Speaker 1>And it's you know, I think, uh, it's a relatively
<v Speaker 1>small thing until you have something like a Hogwarts legacy,
<v Speaker 1>which clearly made a ton of money that made up
<v Speaker 1>made all the money in the world. So it's it's
<v Speaker 1>not that small piece of the pie when you compare
<v Speaker 1>compare that to somebody. The thing is for Netflix, there
<v Speaker 1>their business, they only they do only see things through
<v Speaker 1>the lens of subscriptions and what they can do to
<v Speaker 1>sort of bolster that. Video games have not been solved
<v Speaker 1>in terms of that even with game Pass, like people
<v Speaker 1>have not abandoned purchasing games in the way that they
<v Speaker 1>have mostly abandoned purchasing movies or like music, which they've
<v Speaker 1>completely yes, they completely abandon purchasing music. Right, So for Netflix,
<v Speaker 1>the value there is like is, hey, can this create
<v Speaker 1>a new way to get people into our ongoing toll
<v Speaker 1>booth where we stand between them and the stuff they want?
<v Speaker 2>And video games only contribute.
<v Speaker 1>To that in in a minor way, and they are
<v Speaker 1>they've been working on finding ways to solve that, and
<v Speaker 1>they themselves have not really come up with much. So
<v Speaker 1>the value of these things is separate from it's you know,
<v Speaker 1>values always determined by every individual in the moment, and
<v Speaker 1>for for Netflix, the way they value things it doesn't
<v Speaker 1>sort of mesh, that doesn't mean it's actually worthless or
<v Speaker 1>something like that. And I bet you know there's going
<v Speaker 1>to be a time where they have to sell these
<v Speaker 1>companies or whatever, and their tune will change.
<v Speaker 2>They will say the exact opposite about all these things.
<v Speaker 1>I that said, the future of these studios under Netflix
<v Speaker 1>and or Paramount, to me does seem even more treacherous
<v Speaker 1>than what it's been under WB as a terrible corporation
<v Speaker 1>on its own. I don't have much faith for the
<v Speaker 1>long term future of something like a rock Steady Sean,
<v Speaker 1>how about you.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, I'm a little worried about some friends scattered
<v Speaker 3>throughout WB Games and just those studios on the whole, because,
<v Speaker 3>like I said, with some mat of stuff at the
<v Speaker 3>top of the show, seems like it's a running theme
<v Speaker 3>of boy, I hope these people get jobs, can't retain jobs,
<v Speaker 3>because talk like this is what makes me not confident
<v Speaker 3>that they will have them in the near future here,
<v Speaker 3>which is an insane thing to talk about when we're
<v Speaker 3>talking like like you said, like I don't necessarily want
<v Speaker 3>to talk about but yeah, like Hogwarts, Legacy and Mortal
<v Speaker 3>Kombat and all these different like ajor ip, like, I
<v Speaker 3>forget how exactly this all works with like the Lego
<v Speaker 3>games and everything like that, but we're not We're talking
<v Speaker 3>about games are known for being big within video gaming,
<v Speaker 3>just that Hollywood will not see it the same way.
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's what Netflix is looking at. And even
<v Speaker 3>if they are, like you said, to try to downplay
<v Speaker 3>it a little bit for the acquisition, they're also not wrong.
<v Speaker 3>That is smaller than any potential that they have there
<v Speaker 3>for streaming movies and TV shows and stuff like that,
<v Speaker 3>and it's just that sucks. Come on, I'm like, so
<v Speaker 3>to support every part of this and not frankly had
<v Speaker 3>the language like we may not be looking at some
<v Speaker 3>of these studios at some point here.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, it's uh. You know.
<v Speaker 1>Netflix was even more dismissive with some of the other
<v Speaker 1>aspects of the Warner Brothers business. For example, as part
<v Speaker 1>of this deal, they would not be acquiring the cable
<v Speaker 1>channels like CNN and stuff like that, so like that's
<v Speaker 1>some of the parents like, hey, if we got it,
<v Speaker 1>well we'll take on all of this. We want all
<v Speaker 1>of it. Netflix would would probably find a buyer. It'd
<v Speaker 1>be like a situation where when when Disney bought Fox,
<v Speaker 1>they had to find purchase a purchaser for all of
<v Speaker 1>the Fox Sports channels because they already owned ESPN, and
<v Speaker 1>that would be a violation. This wouldn't be the exact
<v Speaker 1>same thing, but it would be them trying to find
<v Speaker 1>a deal a deal partner to send all that stuff
<v Speaker 1>to instead. And that's just because for Netflix, a cable
<v Speaker 1>channel has nothing to do with the way that they
<v Speaker 1>see about the future of making money with their business. Yes, antithetical,
<v Speaker 1>and then the and the video games are sort of
<v Speaker 1>like a step up from that, but it's again, it's
<v Speaker 1>just not They want to be the subscribe number one
<v Speaker 1>subscription service in the world, which they probably are pretty
<v Speaker 1>close to being if they're not. They have what a
<v Speaker 1>three hundred million, the five hundred million subscribers something like that.
<v Speaker 2>That's a ton of people, and they're trying to.
<v Speaker 1>Find the next opportunity for growth, and having all of
<v Speaker 1>HBO's content is going to be the key to that
<v Speaker 1>as well as HBO subscribers, although I bet there's a
<v Speaker 1>lot of overlap there, but that means they could just
<v Speaker 1>charge those people more going forward. Yeah, all right, PlayStation's
<v Speaker 1>sorrows and last of us CO director's new game confirmed
<v Speaker 1>for the Game Awards.
<v Speaker 2>This is from Andy Robinson at VGC.
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation will debut a new look at how Smarks Sorrows
<v Speaker 1>at the Game Awards this week. That's according to a
<v Speaker 1>fresh round of teasers from organizers ahead of the Game
<v Speaker 1>Awards taking place this Thursday, December eleventh. Again, we're gonna
<v Speaker 1>be talking over that. Everybody, come hang out with us.
<v Speaker 1>It'll be a good time. Sarro's, the next game from
<v Speaker 1>the creators of Returnal, is one of PlayStation's big twenty
<v Speaker 1>twenty six games, set to release in February. Sorrows was
<v Speaker 1>revealed earlier this year. The game stars Rahu Kohli and
<v Speaker 1>will continue Reternal's themes of sci fi action. The games
<v Speaker 1>don't appear to be connected narratively. In addition, the Los
<v Speaker 1>Angeles Show will debut the first look at the debut
<v Speaker 1>game from Wildflower Interactive. Wildflower is the new studio co
<v Speaker 1>founded by Bruce Staley, co game director on Uncharted two,
<v Speaker 1>The Last of Us and Uncharted four. According to wildflowers website,
<v Speaker 1>the studio is making smallish, creatively charged, uniquely stylized games
<v Speaker 1>that explore the possibilities of the medium. There was a like,
<v Speaker 1>I think a brief look at this game, and it
<v Speaker 1>does look it looks smaller and interesting, and I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>I welcome, I welcome this from big names in the industry,
<v Speaker 1>of people trying to make smaller, more creatively charged games.
<v Speaker 1>I think that's actually a good way of putting it.
<v Speaker 1>That's you know, a couple of things confirmed for the show.
<v Speaker 1>We're also you know, we talked about it on the
<v Speaker 1>BombCast yes yesterday. Divinity seems to be confirmed for Divinity
<v Speaker 1>Original Sin two coming to the PS five. It's kind
<v Speaker 1>of a new version of that game. And then it
<v Speaker 1>sounds like the statue is a reference to maybe some
<v Speaker 1>new Divinity thing, not an Original Sin game, but some
<v Speaker 1>other Divinity sort of thing. Yeah, Resident Evil Requiem is
<v Speaker 1>now going to be there in some way, at least
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure that's like at this point.
<v Speaker 3>Controlled I wonder what they could show.
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what they could show.
<v Speaker 1>And now that we've seen just that art of that
<v Speaker 1>dude's face just in the background there, yep. And then
<v Speaker 1>Assassin's Creed for Recinct Black Flag will also show up
<v Speaker 1>at the show, which you know, that's Ubisoft there, And
<v Speaker 1>you said, Prince of Persia won't be on that's apparently
<v Speaker 1>coming out early next year. I guess that's them probably
<v Speaker 1>just being like, if we spend the money, which I
<v Speaker 1>think they probably do have to spend the money to
<v Speaker 1>get their stuff into the Game Awards, It's worth it
<v Speaker 1>for Assassin's Creed, not worth it for Prince of Persia.
<v Speaker 2>Just the scale of those two things.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean that list right there is not
<v Speaker 1>nothing to sneeze at. And then you know, if Half
<v Speaker 1>Life three gets announced, that that's a pretty good show
<v Speaker 1>right there.
<v Speaker 3>Insane Sentence three gets announced this week, I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>maybe tomorrow.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's where we're at, where where we could
<v Speaker 2>be one day away from that being real.
<v Speaker 1>We talked a little bit about about the Game Awards,
<v Speaker 1>but I think this is a pretty a click list
<v Speaker 1>of different kinds of games, different kinds of people. I
<v Speaker 1>do think the Game Awards has become the like marquee
<v Speaker 1>way to show off your game if you have something
<v Speaker 1>around this time of year. It's it's just there's so
<v Speaker 1>many people watching, and it's it seems like a pretty
<v Speaker 1>decent platform for this thing of I have a game,
<v Speaker 1>I want to tell the world about it.
<v Speaker 2>It does seem like it accomplishes that.
<v Speaker 3>Christians Jellian chat where's Gabe's boat? Where is it? It's
<v Speaker 3>still so bizarre to me that this has basically become
<v Speaker 3>E three at this point, like this is this is
<v Speaker 3>the show of announcements. This is an announcement season outside
<v Speaker 3>of SGF, which is the actual, like you know, E
<v Speaker 3>three replacement. And I don't know, I've always been critical
<v Speaker 3>of that because I think the two things should be separate.
<v Speaker 3>I think if you're gonna have an award show, have
<v Speaker 3>it being awards show. We do have actual award shows
<v Speaker 3>in the industry that I implore people to remember when
<v Speaker 3>it comes to that, like the Dice Awards and stuff. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>this is still fun though, and it is fun to
<v Speaker 3>see all the announcements, and I think it's it's cool
<v Speaker 3>that there is this one platform that people can have
<v Speaker 3>to get their stuff in have like everyone in the
<v Speaker 3>world basically look at it if you're interesting games there.
<v Speaker 3>It's unfortunate that there's so much funkiness around this and
<v Speaker 3>with the way you know, Jeff handles some of the
<v Speaker 3>business of it all and everything like that. I don't know,
<v Speaker 3>it's a weird position of being to simultaneously like, you know,
<v Speaker 3>from a media perspective, be worried about it, but then
<v Speaker 3>also on the flip side, be excited about it as
<v Speaker 3>someone just viewing, you know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and again, yeah, my view of Jeff Keeley,
<v Speaker 1>who I think is a fine person.
<v Speaker 2>I've spoken to him.
<v Speaker 1>He's a bit of a video game industry warlord, right,
<v Speaker 1>He just like has his his section of the industry
<v Speaker 1>kind of cordoned off, and you got to come to
<v Speaker 1>him and pay him the money to get his uh,
<v Speaker 1>get to get into his shows, and it's about enriching
<v Speaker 1>his business, which I like, I've accepted that, especially because
<v Speaker 1>like doing this long enough, comparing it to the old
<v Speaker 1>days of like the Spike Video Game Awards, and it's like,
<v Speaker 1>what were we doing then?
<v Speaker 2>What was the purpose of the show then?
<v Speaker 1>Then it was to sell us ads for whatever Spike
<v Speaker 1>TV was putting on.
<v Speaker 2>So Girl's Gone Wild or whatever. Shit. At least now
<v Speaker 2>the ads.
<v Speaker 3>First awake as a tech issues, What the hell are
<v Speaker 3>you talking.
<v Speaker 1>About over here when I talk about it every show
<v Speaker 1>Girl's Gone Wild? And instead it's like what we're getting
<v Speaker 1>now is commercials for new video games, and that is
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. And then maybe Gillette's shick Man
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it was called the Gilette.
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that was it, hydro Man or something.
<v Speaker 2>Hydro Man.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jesus Christ.
<v Speaker 1>H yeah, I'm ready to see more sorrows. I'll take
<v Speaker 1>a look at whatever this last of us directors of
<v Speaker 1>Brewce Daley's new game, and then you know, just a
<v Speaker 1>couple of surprises would go over real.
<v Speaker 2>Well and make the whole thing worth it. Hydro bought that,
<v Speaker 2>That's what it was. Okay.
<v Speaker 1>Disappointed fans blast Skyrim Switch two port over massive input lag.
<v Speaker 1>It really is unplayable. Have you seen this?
<v Speaker 3>Have you like all of this?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna be I mean, I know it's out
<v Speaker 1>out on all the issues with Okay, yes, the amount
<v Speaker 1>of input lag people are talking about. I was like, well,
<v Speaker 1>all right, from tay Garcia a Dual Shakers. Few games
<v Speaker 1>can boast about having graced every platform imaginable over the
<v Speaker 1>past decade, but the Elder Scrolls five Skyrim is certainly
<v Speaker 1>one of them. Since it's officially playable on practically every
<v Speaker 1>console from the past three generations, and with the arrival
<v Speaker 1>of the Nintendo Switch to earlier this year, the trend continues. Recently,
<v Speaker 1>Bethesda announced that the highly acclaimed RPG was on its
<v Speaker 1>way to Nintendo's newest console, and its arrivals should have
<v Speaker 1>been a moment of celebration. However, things did not go
<v Speaker 1>exactly as everyone expected. Expectations and hope were that the
<v Speaker 1>switch to version of Skyrim would live up to the
<v Speaker 1>acclaimed game, bringing the classic experience smoothly to yet another
<v Speaker 1>modern console, meaning it should at the very least be
<v Speaker 1>fully Unfortunately, that does not.
<v Speaker 2>Appear to be the case.
<v Speaker 1>Shortly after the port's launch, reports from disappointed players again
<v Speaker 1>popping up across community platforms like Reddit, a legend that
<v Speaker 1>the game is riddled with technical shortcomings that render it unplayable.
<v Speaker 1>Skyrim's switch to version is crippled by enormous input lag,
<v Speaker 1>wrote one user, who went on to explain his frustration
<v Speaker 1>with the switch to port. Not only are the visuals
<v Speaker 1>only marginally better, and the frame rates still thirty frames
<v Speaker 1>per second, which is wild to me. Although I know
<v Speaker 1>why that company ends up doing something like that. They
<v Speaker 1>just don't want to QA again for sixty frames per second,
<v Speaker 1>But there's nearly a full second of delay after each input.
<v Speaker 2>What's that?
<v Speaker 1>I gotta assume there's something happening there, Like, is everyone
<v Speaker 1>experience a full second of input delay?
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy bad, that's something.
<v Speaker 3>In milliseconds of lag that is insane, like the frame
<v Speaker 3>of reference. If people don't follow this, like people start
<v Speaker 3>complaining about input lag out like one hundred milli setings
<v Speaker 3>like the people who really notice it, and that's like
<v Speaker 3>above a hundred is where like other people start to
<v Speaker 3>notice it. What do you mean one full second? One
<v Speaker 3>thousand milliseconds.
<v Speaker 1>Right, So like one hundred milliseconds of input delay would
<v Speaker 1>be like especially at thirty frames per second, like three
<v Speaker 1>frames somewhere around there, this would be all thirty frames
<v Speaker 1>or somewhere around that. Yeah, crazy crazy. I wonder if
<v Speaker 1>there's like some contributing factory to some of these people
<v Speaker 1>who are experiencing it, But it's it does sound like
<v Speaker 1>most people are experiencing some sort of noticeable input lag
<v Speaker 1>that they will have to address that is completely unacceptable.
<v Speaker 1>I do find a game that has that sort of
<v Speaker 1>problem unplayable, the thirty frames per second. I do not
<v Speaker 1>hold out hope that they will do anything about turning
<v Speaker 1>that sixty frames per second instead. But man, why but
<v Speaker 1>does the every time they do something with anything, they
<v Speaker 1>always find some new exciting way to have a bug.
<v Speaker 1>It'd be the key marquee takeaway from whatever they're releasing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is one of those things. Well those QA
<v Speaker 3>things are I'm like, did nobody catch this or like
<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine that's the case. So y'all just you
<v Speaker 3>thought it was good to push through that. Come on now,
<v Speaker 3>like you have to know people are gonna notice that, right,
<v Speaker 3>that is as wild do we do? We know specifically
<v Speaker 3>like how or who this is supported by? Was it internal?
<v Speaker 2>But as do I don't, I've not heard.
<v Speaker 1>We probably could get those answers, Like someone probably could
<v Speaker 1>go through the credits at this point and see if
<v Speaker 1>there's anything in there. This is you know, this is
<v Speaker 1>a switch to edition of the anniversary game came out
<v Speaker 1>on switch which was an update to the Nintendo Switch
<v Speaker 1>one version that came out in twenty seventeen. They've done
<v Speaker 1>this a bunch of times now, so they should be
<v Speaker 1>pretty intimately aware of what all the goings on inside
<v Speaker 1>of a switch and now switch to.
<v Speaker 3>So and if I saw correctly, this version still has
<v Speaker 3>the Zelda content in it, right, which means that there
<v Speaker 3>is still some Nintendo collaboration there and so kind of
<v Speaker 3>a bad look for something that I'm assuming Nintendo would
<v Speaker 3>be pushing quite a bit.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they you know, Skyrim sold very well
<v Speaker 1>on the Switch one, so I think they will be
<v Speaker 1>annoyed by this.
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they'll update this. This has to be fixed.
<v Speaker 1>This is that is too crazy. Yeah, and a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people are reporting exactly that, about a one second
<v Speaker 1>of delay and it's immediately noticeable.
<v Speaker 2>Which, of course it would be, all right.
<v Speaker 1>UK Prime Minister calls Rockstar's firing of GTA six devs
<v Speaker 1>deeply concerning.
<v Speaker 2>This is from John Walker at Kotaku.
<v Speaker 1>The recent firings of thirty four grand theft aut of
<v Speaker 1>six developers at Rockstar UK have generated a lot of
<v Speaker 1>suspicion that the action was a response to these workers
<v Speaker 1>being unionized. Protests have ensued, and today the topic was
<v Speaker 1>raised in the UK's Parliament, with Prime Minister Starmer who sucks,
<v Speaker 1>describing the situation as deeply concerning. They're thirty four members
<v Speaker 1>of the Scottish development team were fired in October based
<v Speaker 1>on claims of gross misconduct by Rockstar, but this was
<v Speaker 1>quickly refuted by the Independent Workers Union of Great Britain,
<v Speaker 1>representing unionized developers, saying that it was in.
<v Speaker 2>Fact an act of union busting.
<v Speaker 1>Rockstar has heavily denied this, but the IWGB has pressed
<v Speaker 1>ahead with a case for unfair dismissal and the protests continue.
<v Speaker 1>This has led to Keir Starmer to say, it's a
<v Speaker 1>deeply concerning case. Every worker has a right to join
<v Speaker 1>a trade union, and we're determined to strengthen workers rights
<v Speaker 1>and ensure they don't face unfair consequences for being part
<v Speaker 1>of a union.
<v Speaker 2>Ministers will look into the.
<v Speaker 1>Particular case, into this particular case that he raises, and
<v Speaker 1>keep him updated. So I don't think that when Rockstar
<v Speaker 1>was doing the math of is this going to be
<v Speaker 1>worth it? And this is my opinion based on some
<v Speaker 1>reporting that alleges that what the reason that these people
<v Speaker 1>were fired was they were sharing information about their jobs,
<v Speaker 1>not their work, not grand theft out of six and
<v Speaker 1>a discord server that is private but included some people
<v Speaker 1>who no longer work at Rockstar. That is the gross
<v Speaker 1>misconduct that Rockstar was saying, oh, you are sharing classified
<v Speaker 1>an NDAD information. So my opinion on this is is
<v Speaker 1>that when Rockstar was doing the math, they're like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>we could see some backlash here, but whatever, it'll be
<v Speaker 1>worth it not to have to deal with whatever a
<v Speaker 1>union is going to want.
<v Speaker 2>And we will have to deal with the union because if.
<v Speaker 1>These final few people join it, it'll reach a certain
<v Speaker 1>legal threshold here in the UK where we have to
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge it and begin working with it. And they're like, okay,
<v Speaker 1>so let's go ahead and pull the ripcord on that.
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think they were expecting it to draw
<v Speaker 1>the attention of the Prime Minister of the UK. That
<v Speaker 1>is like probably going to be a little bit scary
<v Speaker 1>to them. This could turn into something bigger. Will it'd
<v Speaker 1>still be enough to put a dent into the amount
<v Speaker 1>of money that they will still make with grant thought
<v Speaker 1>of six Probably not, probably not, probably not especially for yeah,
<v Speaker 1>especially for a big you know, a corporation in Scotland
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be like, hey, we are one of
<v Speaker 1>your major producers of entertainment and culture and money.
<v Speaker 2>We're going to throw our weight around.
<v Speaker 1>And it's not like you know, Cure starmer Is, he's
<v Speaker 1>labor right, that's a joke of a party.
<v Speaker 2>Right now.
<v Speaker 1>They're not doing anything to actually protect people. They're not
<v Speaker 1>doing anything to actually yeah, they have so many things
<v Speaker 1>they and it won't last long because they're not going
<v Speaker 1>to be in charge because they're not doing anything that
<v Speaker 1>the people want, and so they're going to lose the
<v Speaker 1>next election as well, so it'll get even worse when
<v Speaker 1>the Tories come back or whatever. I'm only vaguely aware
<v Speaker 1>of how all things work over there, but that's my
<v Speaker 1>basic understanding of how it's going. So maybe, you know,
<v Speaker 1>the bet here from rock Star could still work out,
<v Speaker 1>because maybe this will just draw some sort of tsks
<v Speaker 1>tisks for now and it won't ever actually turn into
<v Speaker 1>anything real. Although I hope the people who work there
<v Speaker 1>who are suing and they got the IWGB at their back,
<v Speaker 1>just see that through, because it does seem almost certainly
<v Speaker 1>like they were unfairly dismissed from their jobs just for
<v Speaker 1>trying to join a union. What do you think happened here?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think I think you wrapped up perfectly everything
<v Speaker 3>that I've been able to follow from, you know, the
<v Speaker 3>messiness of all this. I definitely agree with everything you
<v Speaker 3>had to say, and I do agree that Rockstar probably
<v Speaker 3>thinks that yeah, this won't affect them, or at least
<v Speaker 3>in a meaningful way, and that's why they could get
<v Speaker 3>away with it. We can only speculate at this point
<v Speaker 3>the reasons behind all this and the calculus they do
<v Speaker 3>in weighing how will this look, how will this portray us?
<v Speaker 3>And everything like this if we do go out and
<v Speaker 3>pull something like this. So yeah, I don't even necessarily
<v Speaker 3>want to speculate too much because I haven't been able
<v Speaker 3>to follow this as closely as as I would like. So,
<v Speaker 3>you know, I want to say something that I'm lying on,
<v Speaker 3>but I think it summed up right.
<v Speaker 1>If people want more information on this, and really just
<v Speaker 1>go watch us, even if you don't, because it's so
<v Speaker 1>informative that you'll be happy you did.
<v Speaker 2>People make games.
<v Speaker 1>His videos on this and really all his follows. He
<v Speaker 1>is on the ground there talking to the people. He
<v Speaker 1>was already talking to those people before this happened, because
<v Speaker 1>he was going to do a story about them starting
<v Speaker 1>at Union and how.
<v Speaker 2>Cool that was.
<v Speaker 1>So he was there and he's like, what the fuck.
<v Speaker 1>It's very insightful and he's a smart guy over there.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 1>Last thing here, AMD's next gen FSR Redstone brings big
<v Speaker 1>games as long as you're using a new GPU. So
<v Speaker 1>this is FSR five or Redstone. I guess yes, essentially.
<v Speaker 1>FSR five they have added a bunch of new features.
<v Speaker 1>They are features that have mostly been in DLSS for
<v Speaker 1>a few years now, which is a good way of
<v Speaker 1>like assessing where FSR is. As usual, it's a couple
<v Speaker 1>steps behind DLSS.
<v Speaker 2>This does close the gap.
<v Speaker 1>It's it a little bit closer to DLSS in terms
<v Speaker 1>of how things are performing, but it doesn't like they're
<v Speaker 1>not leapfrogging one another. AMD is always just a step behind.
<v Speaker 1>You will need the new generation of AMD cards, so
<v Speaker 1>like a ninety seventy or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>Is that where they are.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'll need one of the newest generation of cards
<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of this. That's that does feel like
<v Speaker 1>maybe the right move these days, because the openness of
<v Speaker 1>FSR is really cool.
<v Speaker 2>But let's get all the.
<v Speaker 1>Features in there. Because people are going to be spending
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money on these cards. Give them some
<v Speaker 1>bespoke special stuff that works because they spent that money.
<v Speaker 1>And if that unlocks you and enables you to do
<v Speaker 1>all the extra stuff, I think that will only be
<v Speaker 1>a good thing. AMD has the potential to compete with Nvidia,
<v Speaker 1>it's just they have to stick at it. And really
<v Speaker 1>kind of see it through and believe themselves a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>I see you've written, but wait, there's more. What's happening.
<v Speaker 3>Oh hang, I'm all that's the next story. That's next.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's a different story I wanted to make Okay,
<v Speaker 2>gotcha all right?
<v Speaker 3>But I used your format and everything, old man.
<v Speaker 1>You know, when I first looked at it, it was small,
<v Speaker 1>and then I just looked back and saw it's a
<v Speaker 1>big headline here.
<v Speaker 2>I understood after I started talking.
<v Speaker 3>Anyways, Yeah, the FSR stuff. It is cool to see
<v Speaker 3>a MD start to be competitive here because and video
<v Speaker 3>is just the reason that their stuff is so good.
<v Speaker 3>They're sweet with like DLSS and everything and even out
<v Speaker 3>the multi frame gen which you know, some people like
<v Speaker 3>people really don't ye. They were just so far out
<v Speaker 3>of the curve. They were forward thinking and that you
<v Speaker 3>gotta give them credit for that. But it is good
<v Speaker 3>to see now everyone else catching up to that, like AMD,
<v Speaker 3>and I don't really know what's going on with Intel.
<v Speaker 3>There's weirdness there about their graphics departments. They're saying they
<v Speaker 3>are still gonna keep going with it even though they
<v Speaker 3>do have the you know, the whole end video thing
<v Speaker 3>going on, But it is nice to see more open
<v Speaker 3>alteratives being creative. And yes, you will need new hardware.
<v Speaker 3>That's because you physically need new hardware. Like this kind
<v Speaker 3>of stuff can't be done on older hardware that didn't
<v Speaker 3>have all the specific computer chips and stuff that's needed
<v Speaker 3>on the card in AORA to make this all happen,
<v Speaker 3>Like you could do it in software, but has such
<v Speaker 3>a hilariously high performance set that you wouldn't want to.
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like how you can have a rate
<v Speaker 3>race game running at what was it like Quake RTX
<v Speaker 3>or whatever that was running. You know, it runs with
<v Speaker 3>DSS at like sixty fps on a fifty eighty or
<v Speaker 3>something or whatever. The generational divide is there's it's like
<v Speaker 3>I think it was the forty eighty digital filling tested
<v Speaker 3>down and then they went back, what about the twenty
<v Speaker 3>eighty TI that's a really powerful chip, or I think
<v Speaker 3>it might have been the ten eighty. Yeah, it was
<v Speaker 3>ten ATI because they were testing rate tracing and ten
<v Speaker 3>eighty didn't have it still a really powerful card. It
<v Speaker 3>was like two fps because like of course it is,
<v Speaker 3>you need that specific hardware.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's all that's what we're seeing here there's
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of very specific maths being done in all
<v Speaker 1>these situations where it's like, oh, you need the actual
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, the specific processor that understands what's happening there
<v Speaker 1>to do the stuff like the where they can the
<v Speaker 1>ray regeneration, yes, and then they have to apply a
<v Speaker 1>de noising algorithm on top of that, and these are
<v Speaker 1>things that they kind of have to develop as bespoke
<v Speaker 1>things that are happening in specific areas of the card.
<v Speaker 1>So amdy has that now, and that's exciting because because
<v Speaker 1>the ray regeneration and the de nooising stuff really is
<v Speaker 1>when ray tracing came together for the Nvidia cards. I
<v Speaker 1>remember playing Cyberpunk and testing that out when that happened
<v Speaker 1>in like twenty twenty three. We're like, Okay, it does
<v Speaker 1>look markedly improved, and it's running in a way that
<v Speaker 1>I think is mostly acceptable because now they have this
<v Speaker 1>frame generation and you're right, in video since then has
<v Speaker 1>done multi frame generation. AMD still only has single frame
<v Speaker 1>generation that also still introduces input lag a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, all this stuff is a give and take,
<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad to see AMD continues to push on
<v Speaker 1>these things they could see this to in video, especially
<v Speaker 1>when everyone's worried about what's happening over in AI. But
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like amb's teams continue to plug away at
<v Speaker 1>this stuff in a way that I'm happy to see.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, me too, especially because you know, AMD is looking
<v Speaker 3>appealing in their own way because they are better overrou
<v Speaker 3>on Linux, which I am using more of. I haven't
<v Speaker 3>talked about it much because I'm not confident enough. I
<v Speaker 3>don't feel like I know enough about the ecosystem to
<v Speaker 3>solve everyone's problems that they might come to me about
<v Speaker 3>and like ask about. So, but I AMD is better
<v Speaker 3>over there, So it's good to see that they have
<v Speaker 3>their alternative, more open alternatives, because competition is good. And look,
<v Speaker 3>Nvidia could use a little competition because monopolies are bad.
<v Speaker 3>It's good to like see people competing against each other.
<v Speaker 3>That way everyone can be at their best at all times.
<v Speaker 2>Yep, all right, but wait, there's more.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jeff, you didn't put this one in here. You
<v Speaker 3>know I'm on the show. The the EVO lineup got
<v Speaker 3>announced last night.
<v Speaker 2>My bad. I apologize to Sean. I hope, I hope
<v Speaker 2>he accepts it.
<v Speaker 3>We' to see everybody so They did do the EVO
<v Speaker 3>Japan lineup, but I will focus on the one here
<v Speaker 3>for EVO Las neleg as it's called nowadays. So your
<v Speaker 3>games are three Fighters, six back in eight, Fatal Fury,
<v Speaker 3>City of the Wolves, Grand Blue Fantasy Rising, Grand Blue
<v Speaker 3>Fanacy Versus Rising, Mouthful, under Night in Birth two, and
<v Speaker 3>Rivals of Eighth or two. All right, and oh it's
<v Speaker 3>double wide this year, Jeff. There are no side games,
<v Speaker 3>no extended there's community terms, but there's no extended lineup.
<v Speaker 3>It's all main stage lineup. So on the other let's go, well,
<v Speaker 3>we'll get into that. The other half includes Guilty Gear Strive,
<v Speaker 3>Virtue of a Fighter five, Revo two x KO Right
<v Speaker 3>Blaze Blue Central Fiction from many years ago, whoa Invincible
<v Speaker 3>Versus they're saying that will be out and and like
<v Speaker 3>ready to be compete in at EVO, and Vampires Savior
<v Speaker 3>Dark Stalkers are not.
<v Speaker 1>That baby, that's crazy. Actually, okay, that's fun. All right,
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm excited. I what are the vibes around around
<v Speaker 1>all this, especially in the wake of the Saudi purchase.
<v Speaker 3>So that's the that's the kickers.
<v Speaker 2>Okay.
<v Speaker 3>So they announced a minimum prize pool. I still think
<v Speaker 3>it was like the wording was a little murky in
<v Speaker 3>the announcement. I haven't seen anything to the contrary. The
<v Speaker 3>prize pool for each game minimum five hundred thousand dollars.
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, am I hearing that and reading that right?
<v Speaker 3>Like freaking pool? It's pool? So like right, but yeah,
<v Speaker 3>damn that saudy money right there. Huh whoa yeah man,
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, and that's the kind of thing that had
<v Speaker 3>some people talking of, like, ah, I see, so this
<v Speaker 3>is the trade off a lot of money, a lot
<v Speaker 3>of like improved production and everything like that. But we
<v Speaker 3>know who's backing EVO nowadays and who owns half of it.
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. It's a weird situation to be
<v Speaker 3>in because I've been able to go to the past
<v Speaker 3>three evos and the event gets better and better and better.
<v Speaker 3>But this year I'm like, I kind of just didn't
<v Speaker 3>want to go, but maybe I'd go for work to
<v Speaker 3>like cover stuff because that missed opportunity and everything, and
<v Speaker 3>like the announcements and everything. I don't know, it's a
<v Speaker 3>weird situation to be in. I'm still trying to figure
<v Speaker 3>out how I feel about in everything, because I do,
<v Speaker 3>I do really respect some of the people who work
<v Speaker 3>over there at EVO. I think Rick does a great
<v Speaker 3>job with every event he runs, and like I know
<v Speaker 3>his politics. I don't want to put words into anyone's mouth.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he's dealing with all of this as well.
<v Speaker 3>Maximilian already announced he will not be attending EVO this year.
<v Speaker 3>He'll still restream it, you know, for the community and
<v Speaker 3>everything like that, but he's like, I don't want to
<v Speaker 3>be associated with a government entity. And that's like, you know,
<v Speaker 3>his standside, and got how I feel about it too.
<v Speaker 3>You know, I wouldn't be there in that capacity, but
<v Speaker 3>even like attending feels icky at this point. So yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I'm processing a lot of things that the highs of
<v Speaker 3>all the announcements last night and also the lows of
<v Speaker 3>the ethics of it all, you.
<v Speaker 1>Know, yep, Yeah, it's uh, it is so challenging to
<v Speaker 1>have a sort of backbone in a world where there's
<v Speaker 1>no moral consumption under capitalism. It's like, no matter where
<v Speaker 1>you turn, you're gonna find something that is vile. But
<v Speaker 1>it's like you still have to draw a line somewhere,
<v Speaker 1>and it's, uh, it is challenging. I listen, if you're
<v Speaker 1>a competitor, the go take the money.
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I'm not going to judge you for it.
<v Speaker 2>I get it.
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't blame anyone at those points, like.
<v Speaker 2>Take their money and do something good with it. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It sucks, but that's what it is. A
<v Speaker 2>right that does it.
<v Speaker 1>For the headlines, let's get to the poll question we
<v Speaker 1>had from Monday's show. Let me see I forgot to
<v Speaker 1>get the graphic. Yeah you have to, Yeah, yeah, problem,
<v Speaker 1>take your time. Let's see here. I'm gonna refresh. H Okay,
<v Speaker 1>there we go. This is from earlier this week. Did
<v Speaker 1>you buy a console from for Black Friday? Your options
<v Speaker 1>were PS five, Xbox, which one? Or switch to or nope.
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with nope. Uh and it's gonna ask
<v Speaker 1>me to sign in. Incredible, incredible, I love I love
<v Speaker 1>this website. That's cool, and you're not gonna let me
<v Speaker 1>do that, so I'm gonna go over here instead. Let's
<v Speaker 1>see here YouTube.
<v Speaker 2>Dot com slash at giant bomb. All right, dextra Sewan,
<v Speaker 2>do you have the results?
<v Speaker 3>The results can absolutely be grabbed here. I will say
<v Speaker 3>nope because okay, so did you buy a console for
<v Speaker 3>Black Friday? Which one or two had three percent of
<v Speaker 3>the vote. Yes, five had two percent, Xbox had one percent,
<v Speaker 3>which means ninety four percent of the vote was nope.
<v Speaker 2>Yep.
<v Speaker 1>It is interesting though, it's like, you know, that's uh
<v Speaker 1>six thousand votes here. A lot of people came through
<v Speaker 1>on this one, so you know that's still a fair
<v Speaker 1>number of people purchase and stuff, and it's like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>two to one for PS five Xbox and then you
<v Speaker 1>know the switch one and two is like, you know,
<v Speaker 1>thirty three percent more than the PS five with our audience.
<v Speaker 1>But then we saw those numbers. PS five was by
<v Speaker 1>far number one in terms of making money on Black Friday.
<v Speaker 1>Part of that is going to be it's a little
<v Speaker 1>bit on average more expensive than the switch, but had.
<v Speaker 2>A deep discount.
<v Speaker 1>So no, I think it's just like with the average
<v Speaker 1>consumer out there, this was the moment to hop on
<v Speaker 1>the PlayStation five.
<v Speaker 2>It really felt that way.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think these results make sense with our audience
<v Speaker 3>because yes, people already have consoles at this point in
<v Speaker 3>a generation. If you want to switch to, you probably
<v Speaker 3>bought switsch to already. It's been accessible, easy to buy,
<v Speaker 3>So I think this makes a lot of sense.
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure the ninety four percent. You're right.
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this, you're getting consoles much earlier
<v Speaker 1>than the average person. All Right, we have a new
<v Speaker 1>poll question we will get to in a second. Before
<v Speaker 1>we do that, Sean, tell people where they can find
<v Speaker 1>you on the internet. What you have gone on all
<v Speaker 1>that good stuff other than just being in the giant
<v Speaker 1>bomb mines all week.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's mostly it. But yeah, turbo Shan everywhere on
<v Speaker 3>the internet. Sahawn. I was on the BombCast with you
<v Speaker 3>guys yesterday talking about a lot of metrode a whole
<v Speaker 3>lot of Metro Prime for and how we have a
<v Speaker 3>big range of opinions on that game, which I think,
<v Speaker 3>if nothing else like makes the game interesting to talk.
<v Speaker 2>Good conversation.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was a good conversation too. And
<v Speaker 3>then I also talked about Unbeatable, which I still have
<v Speaker 3>not quite finished up. I apparently have the finale to
<v Speaker 3>do tonight. I keep playing in like two hour chunks,
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know that that game. They did the
<v Speaker 3>Day one patch for Unbeatable. It seems to affix a
<v Speaker 3>lot of the bugginess, but there's still some to it.
<v Speaker 3>So I'll warn people if you really like what I
<v Speaker 3>have to say about on the BombCast. Still a low
<v Speaker 3>bugginess there, so to just you know, the RB dragons
<v Speaker 3>and earthing. Yeah. Well, we'll be talking over the Game
<v Speaker 3>Awards tomorrow. It's gonna be a fun week of stuff
<v Speaker 3>here at Giant Bomb going into gamely Year season. By
<v Speaker 3>the way, you haven't done so already, I'll make sure
<v Speaker 3>put up the blue Sky post after this. Go to
<v Speaker 3>TinyURL dot com splash GB music twenty five. That's two
<v Speaker 3>five if you want to submit songs for our Music
<v Speaker 3>of the Year category, which I'll be putting together over
<v Speaker 3>the next couple of weeks. Here no guarantees that your
<v Speaker 3>chosen song will make it in, but I like to
<v Speaker 3>get the community involves. That way, I probably not to
<v Speaker 3>miss anything. I try to miss any games that have
<v Speaker 3>a really good soundtrack that maybe I didn't play, or
<v Speaker 3>songs from a soundtrack that I may have missed out on.
<v Speaker 3>So again, TinyURL dot com, slash GB music twenty five
<v Speaker 3>if you want to help out.
<v Speaker 2>I am muted.
<v Speaker 1>There we go, all right, new pool question, what kind
<v Speaker 1>of GPU do you have in Nvidia, A M D,
<v Speaker 1>Intel or I don't know, slash don't have PC we
<v Speaker 1>will get the results of that. Talk about it here
<v Speaker 1>on Game of Morning's here on Giant Bomb tomorrow speaking
<v Speaker 1>a Giant Bomb. Blake Club's happening today, right, yeah, it's Wednesday.
<v Speaker 1>We're going back to We're doing Blake Club.
<v Speaker 2>Everyone. That'll happen and it's John.
<v Speaker 3>Why did I agree to produce this? Oh no, I'd
<v Speaker 3>actually sit.
<v Speaker 1>It really is better when it's like more people are
<v Speaker 1>suffering with me like that is it really does help
<v Speaker 1>the like lesson a blow.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is.
<v Speaker 3>Your closest friends to sit exactly.
<v Speaker 1>Everyone everyone else is coming here be miserable with this game.
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even playing. It's Mike and it's just the worst.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that'll be happening today. He is not going
<v Speaker 1>to finish it today. We are still deep deep into
<v Speaker 1>the box office bust. But yeah, don't miss it. That'll
<v Speaker 1>be a good time. We will be also, like I said,
<v Speaker 1>the talkovers happening tomorrow, so six thirty ish pm we
<v Speaker 1>will kind of be starting to get set up. We
<v Speaker 1>will be live by seven and then the pre show
<v Speaker 1>starts at seven thirty, So come hang out with the tomorrow.
<v Speaker 1>That's all Eastern time, Yes, all Eastern time, so I
<v Speaker 1>guess that'd be four pm Pacific time. So come in
<v Speaker 1>hang out with us, everybody, and let's react to some
<v Speaker 1>game trailers and see if an ankle is gonna happen.
<v Speaker 1>It'll be a good time. Okay, else, Sean, I think
<v Speaker 1>we did the poll question. I think I was just
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, hey, Sean, thank you so much hanging out
<v Speaker 1>with me today and talking about video games. Man, I
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it's fun. Thank you all for watching and listening.
<v Speaker 1>You are the best audience in gaming. Until next time,
<v Speaker 1>have a good one, take care of yourself.
<v Speaker 2>Goodbye.