#166 - Emily Weisband - Grammy Winner, Obsessed with Bohemian Rhapsody

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Speaker 1: I welcome to episode one sixty six with Emily Wise Band. We've never met before, which is weird because we know all the same people I know, we have we have literally really close friends that, um, we've never met. I asked Mike. I said, I've never met Emily before, and he said, I think I saw her once. So it's like you're a like a unicorn running around town. Take it. Welcome, Welcome to the house, to the ship. Look your faces up on a big wall. Oh my god, that's crazy. I have. I was going through some notes about you, because again, I only know because I know you and Lauren you are, we're good friends. Lena and she would she when she would come over, and Laura and I've been on the road a lot. She's like, yeah, he's one of my best friends. And so that's really how I knew you. And then Nicole Galleon, so yeah, I think that's that's that's who it is, like you should know Emily. So I never did it. So I was like, Mike, book Emily, and as I was looking at all your songs, here's I don't know you were irritated by this, but I was irritated for you, and I don't know the story behind it, so you should tell me how you feel about this this Bryan saw that you that you sing in you're not on the track, no, like I didn't write it. No, you're not on it, No I didn't. But but you sing on it. You're not a background vocal, but you're not on like Luke Bryan featuring Emily Wise mantlin. I'm not listen how prominent you are here in cause you haven't ever heard this. Start the clip over a little bit too. I mean this this too, and listen. I love Luke. He's one of my dear friends. We do American I altogether we spent and probably wasn't his call. But back in the day, flow Rider had right round and Kesha was on it and they didn't credit Kesh at all, and I felt you got a little kesh it in this one. How did you feel about that? I didn't feel anything about it. I don't think thankful to be a part of it. No, I really mean it. I'm not like a I don't know. I just like but if you just sting that much and not beyond it, not even as you're you irritated, it's odd that you would sing that much and not be featured on the track. Well, it wasn't in the plan for me to sing on it, because what happened was, um, so Jason Sellers, you know Jason, So, like I want to say, it was four or five years ago. I just signed my publishing deal and he was like, hey, will you come sing a demo for me? And I was like, yeah, sure, why not? So I went, I sang the demo, and then the engineer on the session at the demo, I ended up engineering a lot of stuff for Luke Bryan with Jody and Jeff Stevens. And so when Luke put out crap what was the EP called? It was like farm, Yeah, I think so, and it was the You Look Like Rain song. So they called the engineer like they were looking for like a female presence on that song, and they called me because the engineer was like, oh, this girl did this demo for Jesus Sellers an like to voice and so well that's how I talked when I'm impersonating other people. So he was like, um, they called me. I went in and just saying something like background vocals on You Look Like Rain. And then when it came time for them to cut hungover in a hotel room. They called me again and said, Hey, I think we're going to get like a pop feature or something on this song, but we would love if you came in and sang in the girl parts so that whoever ends up singing it can hear how it goes. So I was like, okay, yeah, sure whatever. So I went in and I just laid it down. It wasn't like a big deal, and I was like fully expecting for them to just like somebody else was going to re sing it. And then they called me one day and said, Yo, we're just gonna keep you on it. Are you cool with it? And I was like, oh, yeah, sure, why not? It's my only point was and you know my point, and you know I would have expected that's a lot, right. Well, it's like fun. I love little things where like nobody knows it's cool that I don't care. Well, I don't even know you as an artist, Like I don't do have music. Do you put out yourself? No, I just signed a record deal like six months ago. Really we'll get to that because I know you was a songwriter, but that was as I was going through stuff. That was what I saw. I was like, I wonder if she's irritated or I wonder if she is not at all all right, I can say I'm on a song with Luke Brian and like it's not I don't know. I think it's cool. Let us you wrote sway with Daniel You're right with daniellet I thought this song kind of got screwed over a little bit. I thought I got cut a bit early. Yeah, I thought it was a jam. Thank you. You and Daniel are friends, Yeah, really good friends. She's like a little sister to me. Turn it up a little bit, like she's one of them. Whenever people ask me a lot of times they'll say, hey, who are the best singers? She's incredible and she's her. And you can probably add to this too, because you're around a lot of these artists and everybody comes mostly everybody comes by my room, by my studio and sings and performs. Shay, if I were to make a top three or four and it's tough, he's unreal, but it's Shay from Dan and Shay. Lauren would be up there, Danielle would be up there and like, someone, let me make Stapleton can really sing, but his is so distinct and that makes him one of But I would guys pure vocalists like who who do you? Who am I missing? I would put Danielle, Shay and Lauren up there. Yeah, I mean, I think the cool thing about country music is that everybody. I love artists. When you can listen to them and you're like, whether they have runs for days or not, it's like, oh and that's so and so, Like you can tell just about best vocalists vocalist pure vocal Carrie, Say Carrie, I mean carry like alien, I say, with carry wants and I was like, what, this is not even real? Well, yeah, she's so amazing. But I personally am a fan of people who have like cool voices, Like I love ray Lyn's voice. I think it's like a cool voice. But you didn't give me a chance to pick cool voices. I just said best pure vocalist. Best pure vocalists I think are cool. I mean she is incredible, Danielle is incredible. I love writing with Danielle. I loved writing with Lauren so much because if you thought it, she could sing it, you know what you mean. So it was like you wrote next Boyfriend with Lauren R. Why do you laugh at that. No, it's just like so long ago. It's like I kind of forgot and so we said it. It was probably five years ago. It was like when I first signed my publishing deal. Lauren was like the first I'm so grateful for Lauren. She was like the first artist. She really let me into her world. So she really let me in there. And I'll always be super grateful for that because I learned a lot from writing with her about being a writer. So what's it like? Um? And I wrote a kids on with Lauren on my kids record. Yeah, and I because and I had to sing, and I'm not a good singer. I'm gonna I can sing funny that That's about it. But Lauren would sing and she would write, and she would see she did. I was like, Lauren, I can't do that. You gotta right back into where I can sing. Because she was so good just even writing. Um yeah, Lauren so good? Um? What was my point? Where was I going with this? Remember? I feel like I had something good to say? Always pretty good? Camelbao, you wrote consequences? I did? Yeah? I mean, youna get so paid for this one? Right? Um? It's a pop hit. I mean it'd be really cool. But yeah, I'm amazed. I've already even made it to the radio, so I'm just happy to have it up there. Do you know where this is on the pop chart something? Right now? It's on the start now. I think it peaked at like in the early I don't know, like twelve paid for that? We would you write? That's a bonus with a bonus, it's like your work. Yeah, But like, I just love what I do so much. I'm really not shooting you, like, I really just like and me too. I love what I do, right, I love but I should get paid too because I'm creating something that people buy and you do and it's great. But you're gonna get so paid for that song. I mean I wrote it with Nicole yal And and and Amy Watch Whom? How do I? Amy Watch what else? Amy wrote? Thinking out loud by Edge Hearon. She's like this dope lady. She's got like covered in tats, like short, cool hair, a couple of kids like super chill. It was really really cool. Reminds me of like Laura Belts. Yeah, she definitely has like a British Laura Belts vibe. How do you get involved in a write like this kind of out of this Nashville world. M. I guess you trip and fall into it. I. Um, I don't know how we got hooked up Amy. I write with Nicole a lot. I love writing Nicole. She's one of my faves. And so, um, my sister probably is pretty good at making me the shittiest writer in the room. And your sister because actually works with you. She does. Yeah, she um manages me and she is the VP of my publishing company that I'm signed to you, So um it's just so cool having somebody like that in my corner all the time. Um. But yeah, I got set up sorry with Nicole and Amy, and I almost didn't go that day honestly because, UM, I'm like, tell all, queen, I'll tell anybody anything. You can ask you my deepest starker secret, and I would probably tell you right now. But um, I just some stuff had gone down the day before we wrote that. I just have you ever been in a blind rage? No? Well, I it wasn't a blind rage. It was like a blind shame. I was really ashamed of some stuff that have happened that I had happened the day before, and so I almost didn't want to go because I knew my big fat mouth the second I opened it, I would tell them everything. And I was like this that one thing I'm not telling anybody. So, um, I remember I went in at like noon or one. It was like an afternoon, right, and I had never met Amy and neither in Nicole, and we go in and um, they started talking to each other like Hi, nice to meet you, blah blah blah. So I have this one idea and da da da, and they're going through it and I'm just sitting there. I remember staring at these piano keys, like there's no way in hell I can stay here, Like I can't write today, this is not going to happen. I'm like praying to God to get me out there, like the power go out or something. I'm like about to text my sister to tell her, like to call me in thirty and like she's stranded on the side of the road. I gotta go get her. And um, I just started praying. I'm like, God, get me out of here. And I can't tell these girls like what's going on with me? And I just heard these three words in my head and like I'm not a hippotie deputy person. But like I definitely they definitely weren't me, and I do believe in something bigger than me happening all the time. So I just heard these three words and it was be a writer, and I thought, freaking ship because now I have to tell them, because that's what being a writer is, you know. It's like sacrificing your pride and your privacy to like say what other people can't. And I'm a total like my shame isn't my shame, it's like everybody's shame. And I just kind of lived that way like with everything, you know. So um, I was like, guys, I wud to tell you something, and I'm like I saw having my eyes out. Amy probably thought I was a freaking nut. Soell, Nicole is just like it's that gay. And I tell them and I'm like, I have this idea, but like we don't have to write it, like don't write it out of pity, Like I don't want this to be a pity, right, but I have this idea of consequences would be like loving you with consequences whatever, And um, They're like, okay, we wrote the song in like forty five minutes and then we voiced moment it and I didn't think twice about it, and then, Um, at the time, I was dating another writer in town, Josh Kerr, So I was like, hey, babe, will you do this demo for me? Just piano vocal real quick? And he said sure, So I did it. I sent it to Amy and she called us like a week later and said, hey, I hope you don't I hope you all don't mind. But I sent this song to Ed Sheer and and I was like, no, I'm pissed to you, and she said he loves it but thinks his friend Camilla would die over it, and like, do you mind if he sends it to her? And is this Camilla's record before she kind of known as the solo Waters. I don't even know I Fifth Harmony had broken up yet, like we were. I was like, okay, cool, Like I knew about Fifth Harmony, but I didn't. I wasn't like super clud in to Camilla necessarily, so um or Camila, I probably just butchered that, but um, yeah, she ended up like recording it. And actually the piano that you hear on the cut is Josh's piano from the demo. Yeah, so, um so, how long from the day that you wrote it until you heard it fully produced with her vocal on it? It was probably Well, we wrote it Fall two thousand seventeen. It came out January two thousand No I'm an idiot, Fall two thousand sixteen, so January two thousand eighteen. It's like a year and a half. And it was funny because the first email we ever got about it was like, Yo, this is going to be single, and really, okay, that's what everybody said about everything. That's what I know. We're like, yeah, sure, And then for it to actually be single, it was really like a cool God moment for me because I was like, there's no reason that should be. It's the one song on the record that's a ballad number one and number two. It's like three writers from Nashville. I mean she heard it from them and then she made it her own. I mean she wrote on it and ended up totally making it her own. And it sounds like a Camille song because she put her her whole Camilla thing on it. But um, I don't know. Every time I hear it, I'm like, there's no way that should have happened. So I'm like, thanks, I think this one good in the shower. You sing it in the shower. The only play something good though well acoustics. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. So did you when you write a song for somebody, especially the pop world, you ever meet him? No? Not really. Here in town, you kind of see everybody av even if you don't get together, and and even if it's not a number one party that would be Some of my friends had only met the artist, like they a Keny song. They were like, only what's he Kenny at the number one party when he's doing like seven at once. But you know, it's a pretty small town, so you see everybody. But no, you haven't met Camelli yet. No, I haven't met her. So what I heard she's great and maybe someday that's the goal. By the way, um no, I'm kidding. Only has the chicklay cup. She hit me on Instagram. She was like, do you want chick? And I was like, no, I'm good. I might only showing up please, I don't want to show up empty handed. That's all right. Trisha Yarwood brought Tennessee Whiskey over there, and so we just we just let it sit so you can leave your cup cool. I'll just leave it here in the decay, alright, degradable. How are you feeling about the um? You know the big and I mentioned getting paid because I think songwriters, I'm a big songwriter advocate for forget making money like create and get paid for it because other people are getting paid for it, Like you write it, you don't sing on other people are getting they're on tour. They're getting to sing it on tour and making a bunch of money with tickets. And you can write a song like Consequences and she can make merch off of it, and this isn't a bad thing towards the artist. But they can take a song and make a hundred thousand bucks off merch of a lyric that you wrote and you don't get anything, Which is why I'm such a big advocate of songwriters getting paid. And so right now you're having the issue with Spotify and the streaming services that are not wanting to compensate songwriters to what songwriters feel is comfortable for them. Are you in that in those weeds at all? Um? Yeah, I mean I try not to like talk a ton about things that I don't know everything about. I'm the opposite. I talk a lot about everything I know nothing about, so it's good we'll balance each other out. The um. Yeah, but I of course I'm a huge advocate for songwriters. I love songwriters. Um. I spend my every day with songwriters and incredible ones who like have these families at home and they get up and they go down and they write music. And music is everywhere. I mean, it's never going away. So I am like, yeah, I'm all four songwriters being compensated fairly. I'm not somebody who like I want to do what I can. So I definitely am starting to get more into the world of like getting involved in the side of that where something could be done about it and educating myself about it and the whole thing. Um. For me personally, I don't sit it just in on like, not even in a political way anymore. I'm I'm talking about when I'm at home in my pajamas on the couch, Like, am I stressing about it? And no I'm not. But that's not because I don't care about it, because I like do I think I'm not looking at my bank accounts stressing out because I just have this like weird and this is a personal thing. It has nothing to do with the issue. Um, I just have this weird confidence that I'm going to be fine. And you live with your three sisters, I do, you're all splitting rent or mortgage? Yeah, I mean for now, you know what I mean. It's the kind of thing where, um, I just I'm super tight with my family. We're all like single and flirty and fresh and we can. And I'm one of six kids. Five of us are girls, ones married with a couple, My brother lives up in Virginia, and then the other four we live here. Yeah, one of them has a serious boyfriend, but the others were kind of just you know, riding the wave. What's up with your brother? How where was he born? In the Oh, he's the baby, he's the baby having babies until they had a boy. I mean, I don't know if they were really thinking about anything but just doing it. To be honest, five girls in a row, like you gotta be I mean, well, yeah, I will say my older sister, she's my half sister and is from my dad's hole back teenage days, so he was a nineteen and she's born. She's amazing we're best friends. Um, the other five of us that my parents like, we have all of the same mom Um. My parents had five kids in five years, like to the day, so my brother and I share birthday the oldest of the five. Oh yeah, my parents loved doing it. They're super in love. They're always making out. He's a bail bondsman and so like he kind of I was all the time in the world, like when he's not. My claim to fame is that I got invited to Beth Chapman's birthday party when I was in high school. But dog the Bonnie Hunter's wife with the big boobies, So like, yeah, that was my total claim to fame. So I grew up just around like jails and stuff like that, and my dad kind of could work whenever you wanted and so so what are the bill body day? Like, Um, well, these days is a little different. They're trying to end bail. I'm they're trying to replace it with pre trial. But growing up, I mean, my dad, he was just home when every wanted. The phone would ring constantly and to be like, ha, I'd love to get my husband out of jail. He was down at the Walmart last night and blah blah and the whole thing, and so um, yeah, it was cool and it was funny because like my dad would he'd go to the jail, he'd put up the money and then he'd come home or like usually get up in the middle of the night and do it because a lot of people will get like duys like at eleven PM. So he'd be up at like three in the morning. But always made sure he was home to take us to school because he wanted us to learn the cost words from him, not on the bus. Always made sure to you know, be home for dinner and be at all of our school choir shows or whatever the hell he had to be at. And so it was great. But we'd come home and they'd be like random people like painting the house or something, and I'd be like, Mom, who's at She's like, Oh, somebody couldn't pay their bail, so your dad just let him paint the house. So like half of our house is stone, like it's not finished, like half of its stone because he let somebody like come and do it. What happened, Only they don't pay the bill. Oh that was like a big deal. We'd come home and there would be like a pink slip on our back door, and we all knew that doubt was going to be pistoning out home because the pink slip meant somebody skipped court or whatever. So my dad gets very passive aggressive about it. He takes to Facebook and he'll post like their mug shots and be like, there's persons a pub get them back here, Like, yeah, I'll have to tell you what that is off the microphone because it's like three bad words in a row. But let's see if we can figure out what you want to I'll tell you pussy as bit? Is that a common term? No? Honestly, Like, he never used that term. My sister's boyfriend taught it to me. No where did you grow up? Oh, Virginia? Okay, got it, Virginia thing, but I rememb Virginia. No, no, no, no, I'd be called it all the time because I am. It is an urban dictionary. It tell you. I actually didn't learn that one from my dad. It's it's basically what he would say. His was a lot more eloquent. He's like, I learned that from my sister's boy friend, but um, yeah, And he would just have to go find him. We lived kind of near Quantico, so like sometimes he'd hired a couple of marines down at the base to like go find somebody. Yeah one time, Oh my god, this is so good. I found somebody one time, Like my dad would be like, hey, like this is the guy. Like, and I remember one time we found like I was somewhere and I saw their license plate and it was like totally the dude, And so I told my dad and we followed him, and it was the whole thing. So you knew the license plate, so you're on the lookout. Well not the lice plate, but I know what the person looks like. So i'd be around town. I'd be like, I think that's all. And there was one in particular time where like I feel like we followed them down to like and it was like, Dad, we got him. Did you get the rewards? Like the reward was my dad not having to fork it up. And that's what happens, right if they go away, Yeah, they've never seen again. Your dad then has to pay the full bail. Yeah, basically did you ever have to do that? Um A couple of times? Yeah, p ab those paths would you say? I would probably say a paby. I feel bad for seeing three bad words in a row. I do love Jesus, but I also will totally say that whatever. But also here's my thing on words. Right. Words are just sounds, and if you take I agree who made them bad? Right? And not only made them bad, but your location dictates what is bad. Because if you get on your airplane and let's say you fly east, do you fly over over the Atlantic and you land in Italy? Right? Are bad? Words are the same as they're bad? Not like this means f off in London. What you're doing two fingers for those that can't see, because literally nobody and I I'm not used to radio life yet. Bobby, you're doing the peace sign basically, yeah, basically, but when you do it with the fingers like facing you, like the nails facing the other person. Because somebody said, I was in London with my family for Christmas. It's like our new tradition to go somewhere instead of like buying each other a bunch of stuff that will break or lose by February. So um, somebody asked me if I wanted something. I forget what it was, and I said, yeah, I'll take two. He said no, don't do that. Don't do that. So I learned the hard way, and which is my point. Even hand signs where if you flip the middle finger here and you go to let's say you go west to Japan and a lot of our English, a lot of our Western culture has been adopted by them. But still that is it's not bad, they're they have different. So my holding with Carsewards is who cares? It just sounds we have an it's our fault. They're bad. So my grandma can't listen to this now, So yeah, you still call your grandma. I love my grandma. Text three yesterday some of the cutest text and your grandma listens to all the things that you do. Does she follow you Instagram? She follows me on Instagram. Facebook, you wanted to less close? I'm not even kidding you. Yes, I'm not kidding you. I've had full on Facebook Ward, like my family has had full on Facebook words about my outfit sometimes because because she says that I'll never get a grandma, I love you so much and like, yes, you're right, but like you know what she'll say, like I'll never get a Christian husband if I like am wearing that which she's you know, she's my grandma. I love my grandma. Is she right? I mean like, Um, I mean no, I don't think so. I think I'm gonna end up with whoever I'm supposed to end up with. Do you believe that everything is set out and you must you'll regardless You're gonna fall into the path. Um. I believe that God has a thing for my life, and I'm excited to see what it is. I'm not like, uh, I'm not like a soulmates person necessarily. I'm not like I think there's a lot of people who can make you happy, agree, And I have trouble with thinking that already what's going to happen to me has already decided because why so hard? And watch the Madeleine mccainns. Like, I believe that we create a own path and hopefully we do the best with them. But I just am not someone that believes it's all figured out already. Yeah. I think that's like kind of the beauty of God is like we get to choose like what we want to do, who we want to hang out with. Like, I'm a big believer. I don't like doing things when I feel like I have to do them. I just can't put my whole heart into something if I feel like I have to do it, Like I want to be in a situation where I want to, and when I do want to, I'm all in and I'm like a percent let's go. Um. But I think that's so that's why the people that I do love, I love them because I want to love them. And I think that's like a cool way to love. You know, I'm not you know the things I devote my time too. I devote my time too because I want to or not because I feel like I have to. And so I think God's that way too, even like he doesn't want us to do things because we feel like we have to. I think that takes the beauty out of loving God. I think that takes the beauty out of um just being on a journey that's full of joy and peace and like, I don't know, I think making decisions is like such a cool part of being a human being. So you don't believe in soulmates? Um? No, because what if you're done in India? Yeah, I don't believe in So I think that there's like probably several people in the world that I could have an incredible life with do. I think like my emotions and my do I think like everything is kind of gonna going to kind of collide when it's supposed to, and I'm going to know. Yeah, I do think I'll know when it's like the person I want to be with. But like, I don't necessarily think that there's like one person out there for me. I gotta go find him. I'm kind of like doing my thing. It's like your dad searching for exactly this commercial break real quick. 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Yeah, we take shots out of it sometimes. Really. Yeah, it's a Christian Grammy too. That's way. It's so funny. My grandma took us shot out of it one time. My cool grandma, you know what. And good for her, I know, my grandma who doesn't always love my outfits, but I love that we can have an open, honest relationship about it. And good for you keeping it in the living room. Yeah, I do. I keep my mirrable. I know, I saw it. I walked in. I'm gonna take a very trendy house, by the way. Trendy. Yeah, it's trendy design like it's designed very trendy. I change it every three months. You do knock it down and build another one. Wait, are you serious? Do you think you would knock down the house every three months? Well no, I mean, but I do like switch out stuff like every three months, like somewheah, not like not down a house. Well yeah, whatever. So did you go to the Grammys when you want this? I did? Yeah. My speech was awful. Wait, so you got up and spoke? Was it? It wasn't on television, right, Um? It was. It was like the pre telecast. Okay, So so everybody's still there and you get up on the stage and what do you hear? And went in the Grammy for uh, I will Christian song is, Oh my god, dude, I literally have it. Yeah, I'll show you real fast. It's very accessible. No, this is it? Oh you have it? Okay, this is the audio. This is I'm called so bad, so bad. Yeah I did. And I had a cold and I was super awkward and like cold and have to piece so bad? Yeah, And I was holding my phone on the stage. I don't. I looked down and I was like what am I doing? And so I just kind of like I think, I think Jesus after that? And then did Bernie take it? So you had nothing prepared? I had not, even Anne, because I also don't prepare for those award type things. I have to say something because I don't want to. I don't even believe in the jinks, but I don't want to take myself don't. So I don't. But have a skeleton. You have a skeleton of what you're gonna say, no, because I find that when I plan what I'm going to say about things before I say them, I come off very fake, like I'm rehearsed, and I just never want to be. I don't know. I would just rather like go and wing it and be myself in the moment, and you were absolutely yourself. I was had and Bernie take it away? Yeah, thank you Jesus, Bernie take it away. I think it's what it was. What about when you came over here anything rehearsed and you want You're like, oh, if I get into this, it's gonna be good. All right, it's all like off the cuff, Dan and Shay make or break. I'll hear this, well record was this this last one? Are you like holding on that? It could be the next single. Things are going to happen as they come. I try not to get married to like ideas or things like that. It wouldn't be cool. They're killing it. Would be cool. They are killing it. They've played it, they play it live. I've been to their show and it goes over great and they sound amazing. I'm super super proud of them. I mean, they just work their butts off. So I'm just everything they have come into them they deserve it. And I'm really really really stuck. Do you hop on the road and right with people? I have? Yeah, I haven't as much lately. Um, I've been shifting my focus to tad Um. Not completely but up to this point. But I have and I really love it. I really love it. That's where don't get a bush? Have you? Have you been on the road right with God? I think my first time ever on the road was Jane Kramer. I'm pretty sure that was my first time. But I would go with Danielle out with Thomas Rhet, a bunch Um and somebody else. I don't remember. Garth, Yeah, totally. The crazy thing about a road, like hopping on the road and riding with people is that let's let's use t r for example. You go with Tom Shrett and you're riding and you're right all day and then even though he's been writing, he still has to go on stage into a full show. Yeah, and he's written one, maybe two songs, because you don't bring writers out not to write. Yeah, So you'll ride and you have the rigs that up in the bus and you're riding and you know he's probably not singing fully, but he's singing enough inside the right and then he has to go into a full show. Yeah, it goes that's a full show. And then they'll get off the bus and usually do like the vocal for the song we wrote that day or something like that. Never have any bus rides that kind of turned into cuts? Um yeah, actually yeah I have. Um So, there's a song on the Daniel Bradberry record. I went on those. It was the Suits and Boots tour when it was TR, Brett Eldridge and Danielle and um there's a song that Tr wrote with me and Daniel on that trip that ended up on her record. It's called what Are We Doing? And then um, I went out with Tr another time and we wrote a song. It's a duet and he cut it and with his duet partner and it just it hasn't come out yet, so we'll see if it ever. Does you say you've you've shifted your focus to what singing like cutting a record? Yeah? Yeah. I never thought i'd do it. I never wanted to do I refused to do it, and now I'm doing it. So I'm like, you didn't want to. You don't do things that you don't want to do. Yeah, So that's why. Um So, I just signed a deal with Warner Brothers and out of l A. So it's a pop record, it's not a country record. And I what basically happened was back in two thousand fifteen. This guy Michael Zondo, Do you know him? I don't know him. I know who he is. So Mike called me, just cold called me out of the blue. And it was November of two thousand and fifteen. And I when I saw my publishing deal, I had taken it out of like all that language is like if she ever becomes an artist, it'll be divided like blah blah blah. Um. I it took a little longer to get my deal done because we took all of that language out. So we actually had to redo my publishing deal when I started talking to Warner Brothers about signing a record deal. And um, because I just I wanted to be a badass writer. I just did. Like I writing with other artists, I got to kind of see their life, and um, you just have to like really love what you do to do it, and because you hear know a lot. And I just I like to be purposeful and what I like to feel like I have purpose and whatever I'm doing. So I just didn't feel purpose singing songs. There's so much noise out there, and like especially a pop record, I just I just didn't want to add to the noise. Like if I was going to make a record, I wanted to have a point of view, I something to say, and I just didn't feel like I had that. I felt like my purpose was helping other people figure out what that was for them. So, um, I just committed to it. And I was like, all right, let's go. I'm gonna be the best songwriter ever, let's do it. And um two thousand fifteen, Mike called me and said, hey, my name is Mike. I'm not a creepers this Emily. I'm like yeah, and he said, yeah, totally, it's good. It's a good first line. And um, I I said, uh, hey, what's up? Because I heard your voice on a demo and I want to make a record with you, Like are you down? Like I'll I'm an A and R Warner. I'll fly you out. We'll like start just right and see if there's anything in there. And I was like, it's really nice, but like, I'm not sure that's my vibe. I appreciate it though, And um, I don't know everybody in my life who before had been like yeah, artist's life not for you, like making a record not for you. Let's focus on writing. Um, they kind of just started changing their mind a little bit. It was all it was weird, like it felt very divine, like how everything kind of lined up. All the voices I had trusted for so long started saying, hey, like maybe you should go and just see if there's anything in there. And honestly, it took a year. I went two weeks later. Basically I was standing on my story going, I have no idea what I'm about to meet or what I'm about to walk into. Um was he a creep? Now he turned out to be the nicest dude ever. He's we're basically family now. Three years later, and um, it took me like a year. It was just like at night on weekends, I'd go to l a like for a week or two every six weeks and just try to write songs for me, and it just I would leave thinking, man, any girl could sing that and it'd be like cute, it'd be cool. But I I hadn't written anything. And then I had this really slutty night one night, and um, just super not me. I was just in like this time of life where I was being a hell bag and so I remember member waking up one morning and I had like this was like a year after Mike had called me. And I woke up and I had like four texts on my phone from numbers I didn't recognize, being like, Yo, where'd you go? I thought we were going to And then um, my sister was pissed at me. She's in the other room because I'm sure she had to pull me out of some stupid uber the night before, like her fun night turned into babysitting me, and so she's mad. This is like the third fourth weekend in a row I've done this, And I just woke up feeling disgusting, like so not myself, like look, and I'd kind of given up on writing anything for me because it's been I'd tried and it hadn't really happened, so kind of put out of my head and I crawled her my sister's bed. The next morning, I had my tail between my legs and she said, I love you, but you got to figure this out. She's like, you're ruining our relationship. You need to figure it out. And I said okay, and I went home and I called, um, Hannah, Ellis, do you know Hannah? I know her. I've played her music. Yeah, I called her. She was like my first co write when I moved to Nashville ever, and so I don't know. I called her for some reason and I said, Hey, like, I just need to vocalize something. Could you meet me? It was a Saturday. Mama don't work on Saturdays. Mama works money through Friday. So I was she was. I was like, can you meet me? And she said sure, And she met me at like seven pm on a Saturday night and we wrote this song and uh, the next day we took it to Josh Herr and he finished it with us and I didn't even turn it in. Honestly, I stuck into my email because my first thought was a lady Antebel, I will never cut this like nobody in country. Yeah, totally. This Emily Wants means the first hit no. Um. It was called things I'm Over and UM. I just stuck in my email and I like left it there because I figured nobody else would do it. And my sister called me a few days later and said, what the hell is this song in your email? She was like, my sister, yeah, and she knows I don't like I'm not great at texting or calling or emailing, so she has access to all my stuff. And she said, what is this song? And I said, um oh, I just needed to like say it, but I nobody will ever cut it, so I just I didn't even turn it in and she said, yeah, nobody's going to cut it because it's yours. And it was the first moment where I went, oh, that makes sense. She said at me, you gotta try again. So I did, and I I just tried to remember where that place was in me and going back there, and before I knew it, another year went by and I just was sitting on a stack of songs that felt like my songs and my point of view and something that I had to say. And um, I ended up signing with Warner Brothers like six months ago. So what does that mean for timeline of you putting music out? So, um, I actually fight out a tomorrow morning, so like meet have my first meetings with branding and promo and stuff like that. I honestly was in a really incredible position where I didn't have a label looking over my shoulder the whole time I was making my first record. Because um, I've seen that happened to so many people where they signed deals and then to me, I had This is honestly the first public place I've admitted having a record deal, Like I've never posted about it or like really told people about it, because I think some people see record deals like the end, and I kind of see it as the means to the end. Why do people see it is the end? Well, I don't know. I think it's like a goal for and I think it's an incredible goal for a lot of people, like we got a record deal, Yeah, we made it. And I think that sometimes the record deal is the beginning of the work, um, rather than the X on the map. So um, I don't know. For me, it was kind of like cool, we I signed my deal. It was just me and Mike alone, like in his studio. I had my dad on face time, like my sister wasn't even there for it. It was the most low key moment in my life. And um, we started cutting music that day like cool, paper stun, let's do it, you know what I mean. And that's when we started cutting songs. So um, for me, I just got I really got a couple of years too, and it's that curse of like my second record, I'm not going to have three years to write it, you know what I mean. So it's like that classic thing of you're already worried about the second record and the first one is not out yet. Yeah, of course, Um, but no, I just know I had I'm really My point is that I'm very blessed to have had a lot of time to really figure out who I am and um, what my music sounds like and what it says. And I'm super proud of it. I love it. I would buy it if it wasn't mine. I listened to it sometimes, and not as my music. I listened to it because like I need to hear it, And that's how I know a song is mine is when I hear it and I got thinks that I needed that. Like that's when I know, like that's it, Because you know, I'll write these honest songs and turn them in and I'll be like, I think this is from my background and says, no, it's not for your record, and I'm like why but it's so honest and wrong, and she's like, yeah, but it's selfishly honest. She's like, it doesn't do anything for me. I'm just watching you in your own world, like being honest with yourself cool, just like how does that? Like, how do I connect with that? And I'm like, oh yeah, so it's kind of funny. My A and R team is basically my three sisters, and they tell me when something sucks and it's kind of funny. Did you always want to do this right? Music? YEA forever? Yeah, like I has a career. Um, I didn't really know that you could. I mean, I'm super tight with my My family were disgustingly close. It's disgusting, and um my dad, you know those people you have a personality bond with. Do you have anybody like that? You're just like the same person quietly? Oh yeah, I love it stward, But yeah, my sister and my dad have a personality bond, like they're the same person. They could look at each other and know what they're thinking. And I never had that with my dad. Um So I was like, well, my dad loves music, so I'm gonna write a song. And I did and he cried and it was this big thing. It was like it was literally like shooting heroin ors thing. I was like, Dad, love my song, I gotta do it again, and so, um yeah, I'd come home every day after school. I was like eleven when I started, and I would just right for like an hour or two. It was like before I did my homework and I would show him and be like, oh honey, that's so good or oh honey, that could be better. I don't really like how blah blah blah, and you gotta think about da da da, And he never gave me an a when I deserved to see. It was like that kind of thing and so um yeah. Just growing up, I was just my hobby and my thing that I bought it with my dad about. And then when it was time to go to college, everybody was like, you gotta go to medical school. My dad would say, you can be a doctor writes songs, but he can't be a songwriter his doctor. And I was like, okay, yeah, cool, yeah dad. Sure. I'm totally a daddy pleaser, like I love my dad. And being the oldest, it's like everybody's watching you and you want to like do well and succeed and not fail because you're setting the time. It's like the first um I think growing up I did without even realizing it. But we also are all so close in age that I definitely was the pioneer woman in the sense of like, my first boyfriend was my whole family's first boyfriend. You know, my first breakup was my whole family's first breakup. Do you do the thing where you break up and you write about it, but so um specific that it can be tracked back? Um? I have been guilty of doing that before. Probably, But I also I have got no point where I think I don't do it as much now. I still do it. I mean, it's who I am. But do people hear those ones? Probably not. I'm worried about that a little bit on Lindsay's next record, because she was like, do you want to hear these songs? Like, nope, put it out, don't let me hear it. I don't think it's fair because, as someone who loves art more than myself, even I would say I don't want you because you would say you want to hear it. I was like, I don't because if I hear it, I'll oh, note, don't put that out. So I don't want to hear it. Yeah, I think it's just the consequence of dating a writer. I've dated writers were there are songs that are specifically about me, and I'm like, but there's been consequence of dating me, to be fair, because I talk about things to millions of people that she probably was like, are all my any girlfriends or anybody that I dated? But I'd like to pat myself on the back here one more time that I said, do not send me this song. Hey, it's the world. Everybody take note, because I will veto this and so her next record. I know she's just but we had a we had a really good relationship. There was no cheating, there's nothing we broke up. But I know there's gonna be some stuff about me. I know. One was the title one of the titles to Get Over Yourself. So I'm just sitting here and going, oh my God. And her and I are still cool, We're still closer many times. But I'm just like, God, but what you dated a song? And I know Josh, your ex boyfriend, has he written about you and songs and other artists have sang um. I don't know if the world's heard any of them. I've heard I've heard things. It makes you feel blank, it makes me feel huh. I think I'm never like I don't always feel one thing about everything. I feel like probably four different things about it. One, I'm pumped for him. Then he got cut. Like, honestly, I know, that's like really cool, especially when something's super personal to you and then another artist relates to enough to want to cut it. I think it's really cool. So pumps for them, but also like that's awkward where it's their perspective, it's not even my Yeah, like it's your side of the story. Isn't necessarily there. But then I have to go, well, okay, I'm like, how many times have you done that to somebody? So I can't really complain about it. And at the end of the day, it's like, damn whatever. The people need to know no, and like nobody cares. Yeah, honestly, nobody cares. It's see me thinking about it. Like the general population that consensus doesn't care about anything anymore. It's such a niche striman society that we're in now, and so at times, even with people that get in trouble for like controversial things, it just goes by. It's quick and unless you're Michael Jackson, you know or something. Did watch Did you watch that? I watched it literally yesterday. This is fresh for me. It was dark. It was so hard to watch because it was so graphics, so graphic, and it was I was shocked at how graphic it was, but like I appreciated it, but I was definitely shocked. To me, it was easier to watch the Ted Bundy tapes where the dude chops up adults than it was so much easier here about Michael Jackson molesting young boys. It was it's like it just it's one of those things makes you a man. Evil's real. It was, you know, I wish here's the thing that was because I believe the guys, but I wish he were alive to defend himself. And also he went to court twice and was quoted twice. There's just a lot of things that since he's dead, you just wish he could say something back because again talking about one side and I believe them, but I just wish for for the fairness part of it, that he was able to come and go whatever. However, what everybody's gonna say, But yes, it's hard to watch. It's really hard to watch. But I will to your point. I will say, my sister and I like whenever we get on something, we get on it, like when we watched Boheman Rhapsody. I mean, there was nothing but Freddie Mercury streaming, like interviews streaming through my house for like two weeks. So we watched a bunch of interviews after and I think the director of the movie said that this particular like film was about these two guys stories. So like, because I know a lot of people have been saying like what you were just saying about like always not here to define himself and blah blah blah, and it's definitely like a one sided situation. But when you do look at like, it is what it is. It's a movie about these two guys. And so I don't I don't know I which two guys, Freddie and Brian May No, um, I'm talking about leaving Michael Jack Wade and these two guys. The two yeah, yeah, the two boys. I just always have to mention Freddie and Mercury somewhere. I loved it. It's the only movie ever made. In my opinion, I thought it was pretty good. It's so good. I'm such a I'm one of the guys that hold wait, hold on, let me state my opinion. Okay, I'm sorry, I get really pumps about it. I thought it was good. I'm a huge Queen fan that I think there are only a couple of artists that if created today, would still come out in kind of pierce our consciousness of oh this is cool. Like if Queen existed today for the first time, we would go, oh, there sounded so different. We like them today, not because they were Queen, not because they have a history. We just go, oh, they're distinct and they're different like today. That the other the only other one is Biggie because I think his Oh did you watch that? I really like that? Which one there's like nine I want about him in Tupac on Netflix is yeah, I think it's unsolved. I see that up in the feet. No, let me finish. The thing about Human Raapsody that didn't like was it's a movie, and in a Hollywood movie, they've got to just gloss and jump right. So it's like, Freddie, you're sawn a record deal. No, no, even let's go before that, there's a band playing on stage and it's like, you, guys, I'd like to to sing for your band. Next thing you know, they're on the BBC plane like three minutes later and it's just now and I understood why, but as someone who just is such a music geek, I wanted there to be a little more of that struggle. Um, but I did enjoy the movie. But then it goes, we're playing on first BBC show. You just signed a deal eighteen seconds ago before that, you just met, Like, did you have these problems with unity? Yeah? I think some of it wasn't even like, but don't. I'm okay with that. Okay, that's the stunme that kind of got me from it. I'm okay with that because it's a movie and I go into it. If a documentary, I would be upset, And a documentary if it's true, I'm like this bull crap. I just Wikipedia, and I believe everything Wikipedia says, so you're wrong. It was very quick in the beginning, and it kind of slowed down and it was like, I'm Freddie, I have big teeth. It's now time little fair or whatever. Very fair, very fair commentary on the movie. That being said, I did like the movie, and I thought it was cool that a bunch of people like yourself were exposed to Queen. Oh, I know, I know. Um. I was a Queen fan in the sense of like I knew some of their songs and I I really liked them. I knew the words and whatever. But I think that, especially at the place I'm in, of like having just signed a record deal and well then you immediately should be hosting a big festival in like seven minutes BBC at But um No, I think it was more of like just be yourself and like who cares if people like it or don't like it. I think it was like that whole concept or theme I guess through the movie that just really inspired me to just, you know, when somebody doesn't like something. Okay, here's my shortcut to people, because I tell them we spend all of our young days trying to fit in. Younger days twenties, thirties, we do. We spent all of our time going, I just want to fit in. I just I want to be cool and fit in. And then once we figure out, oh this is the thing, we spend the rest of our life trying to be different. So you can kind of get a had start on that by going, you know what, I just want to be different, but it's cool to be different. I'm just gonna be me even if it's different. And we spent all of our youth going I want to fit in. I want to fit in and I want to fit in. And there's a point where you do make that pivot where you go, oh, I want to be different. So as long as you know that it's coming, you can kind of prepare yourself for it. I mean, I've always just been weird. I've tried to fit in. I'm still trying right now, not really much longer. On what's your biggest insecurity? I have the chest of an I loving year old boy. Are you serious? Yeah, that's really what it is. It's one of them. Sure, um, physically, sure, okay, wow, I like this. Let's play it physically and then emotionally or like mentally, I think emotionally. You know, I grew up. I grew up. We had a pretty hard you know, grow It's tough. I had a tough background, so I and I was never really loved as a kid. My mom was an addict. My dad and I never knew my dad. Mom died. So now it's like, and I ever, like I'm really insecure about like do people really like me? Especially now as I become get bigger and you go from radio to like a national already show to television like do people even like me or they just like what I do want to hang around me. So I'm really insecure about that new people. That's like super fair though really I don't like new people until I love new people. And it's hard to get in that. It's hard to get in like my little circle, not because I'm cool, because I don't trust very well. I'm super insecure that that people don't like me. Do you ever have imposter syndrome? Though not ever have it? I'm I live it every day. Like you don't feel like you're as cool as everybody thinks you are, and it's like or as talented, yeah, a hundred percent, Like like you don't feel like you deserve to be there even though everybody else does constantly, And so then you just kind of like and I feel guilty to two things. So I do. Um. The last year and a half, I've spent doing theater stand up, and I've been and these shows would sell out two thousand people there. I'd be like, oh my god, I'm not even that funny. The people pay fifty bucks a ticket to come watch would be not that funny. And then I'll go out and like the show us great. I was like it wasn't really, and I always feel guilty. The my my band have a comedy band, and we played in Boston Saturday night, Sunday night. Yeah St Patrick's date Chef. We played the theater in Boston. And I have friends that are really great artists. They can't sell near the tickets that we sell, and I feel so guilty because of it. I stopped playing festivals for a long time because we could play like faster horses and we would be it would be like Luke Old Dominion and Us and then yeah, we'd be we'd be playing at night and I would be like this is and I would apologize. I would go to people They're like, guys, I'm so sorry. I know we're not that good with my friends that are in bands. So yes, I feel like my analogy as always that I'm I'm like robbing banks and eventually the cops are gonna catch me. Like how long can I literally rob these banks until the cops catch up with me? That's the impostor that I feel like I have books read a couple of books even that good. They say that crazy, I'm like, I can't. I never want people to read them. I'm like Oh, I don't know if you should read it, because you're gonna spend you know, four or five days, two weeks, depending how fast you read and trying not. So the answer is yes, and you're just like living your life for that one more where they're going to realize you're just not And I won't even be surprised. I think I might be relieved when they're finally like, yeah, dude, you do suck. I'm like, thank you, Holy crap, do you have it? You feel imposter Yeah, especially with the Grammy sitting in my living room. For sure. It's funny that because I don't see you as an impostor, because I also not only do I am I sitting with you now hearing you talk, but like I know really talented people that say wonderful things about you. Well that's very nice. Like that makes my day. Yeah, Like the general consensus is that you're super quick and you're a great writer, and so for you to go I think I have a post syndrome to me seems nuts. Well me looking at it seems nuts. I guess it's just something that it's that moment where you're like, oh, maybe we're not all that different. I definitely deal with imposter syndrome in what ways. Um let's do Let's do um emotionally first, Okay, go ahead, I just ran through this, so you see your turn. No, I know, I know it's only fair. Um. Emotionally, I think my biggest insecurity is I'm so afraid of being an almost girl, an almost girl, mean almost girl, like ah, and like your song almost went number one, but it like it was really good, but it wasn't good enough to actually like go all the way. They're like, oh yeah, and that guy almost picked you, but like if this and this was different, he would have really like no, just in a sense of like pick you to do what though like in your head them or whatever, like relationship like that kind of thing, like just being almost good and like really good being Really I think I'm really good at what I do. I think I'm I like myself a lot. I really do. It's like I'm somebody use a lot of things, Like I'm super confident, but I'm also like insecure for sure. I'm I totally know who I am. I also have no clue who I am. I'm like a different girl every day, but that's I think that's normal. But totally. I can like thrive in that condition because I think I've spent a lot of my life trying to like I'm this girl and I'm that girl, or because you want to make sense of yourself and you want to fit in and you want to belong, and then you get to a point where you're like, um, that and I'm that, and I'm that and I'm that and that's okay and that's yeah exactly, And I'm totally cool with being all of those things for whoever I need to be those things for. And it doesn't make me an authentic, but I think generally more for me, it's like being really good but not good enough, like almost And what will change it for you? Because I found all the accolades in the world has a change crap for me? No, definitely therapy, I mean that that helps. Therapist won't see me anymore. Well, like she she said, I had got I'd reach like a really healthy place. She said that, she said, you're fixed. I was like, I don't think you can ever fix I know. I literally went home and I was like, an, I have to have problems. It's like what makes me thrive? So um, it was a really sad day, but she said, somebody you will have a new set of problems and we'll have to work through those, but take a break. So okay, because I feel like I got therapy. I was starting to make up stuff to talk to her about and she goes, why do you like talking to me? I said, because you get me. You just get me. Nobody gets me. So I just was at this point paying somebody to get me. Sometimes they would cancel. That's weird. I know she's super nice though, and low key. I want to be your friend to go get a drink with her, and she says she's this two year policy. So I'm kind of low key, like down to not see her anymore and just like wait two years and then just say, yo, you want to go get a beer? I think you'd be fun. Okay. So that's that is your insecurity. Yeah, and mostly almost being an almost girl. Um. Yeah. And to answer your other question, like, I don't think anything is going to fix it. I think it's something I'll always struggle with, but I do. I'm I'm a big believer in like of the rule. I'm a Jesus girl. I love Jesus and like he I'm a psychopath, like I'm a psycho, so he kind of just keeps me in check. Like that personal relationship I have there, it just kind of keeps me like at Bay. So yeah, I am an almost girl, but like my relationship with there and makes up for it in terms of my peace and my confidence with it and that whole thing. I don't believe that it's a fix. I joke about that, like I don't. I just think the being able to know yourself is the fix. I think being able to know that. And I'll give you a story. I wrote some really personal stuff in my first book about my mom dying and be an addict and some crazy stuff that we went through, and I thought to myself, I don't want people to feel sorry for me. I don't want um. But what I realized was that a lot of people related to what I was saying, and I didn't need to be fixed because then I realized everybody's broken in some way, and if we're all broken, are we even broken? We're not broken? No, I think we were made to be that way. That's really you know what what hit me when I started really and I share on the radio things at times where people like, oh, that's a lot. But I wrote some stuff I wrote my book. I was like, oh, I don't know. But then what it really hit me was, oh, normal is abnormal. You know, we always feel like we're different and things are working out for us, but that's normal. That's everyone. They're just not sharing it, so you don't know and you feel so alone. And I've felt like I at least for a bit, for a little blip for maybe a few people was they were able to read it and go, oh, I don't feel so alone if Bobby's having this this struggle and that's why I like doing what I do, or at least part of it. So and it's cool that you're willing to because I know a lot of people aren't. And um, I think that's the beauty of having jobs like ours, you know, yeah, the beauty and the struggle. Yeah. Oh, it's a total I feel like we're all living in this constant gray area as like, you know, trying to figure out to be that for other people but also be healthy versions of ourselves and so it's a total balanced thing. But I agree with you. I think we're all just kind of made to fall short. And for me, that's I'm cool with it, you know what I mean, especially when I my faith kind of makes up for that for me in the sense of, yeah, whatever, I'll embrace it. I was made to not being I've I've was. I was made to be an almost girl. But I can have peace and joy with that. Did you write today? Um? No, I had a day off. It's two day. You had a day off, mom, and I work on Tuesday. Moment will work on tuesdays before least on Wednesday morning at six thirty five. Decided about that out tomorrow. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. No, my whole record is Nashville written. Um, Nashville is authentic to me. It's my family, it's my my friends. I it would be really unauthentic at this point in my life to go to decide to make a pop record and then go to l A and right with a bunch of people who have never met me and just have their like finger on the pulse of the current trends and um, I don't know. I just I wanted my record to be true, and I wanted it to um be authentic to me. Whatever that it's an extension of me and music, So I needed to do that with people who knew me and that I knew you could deliver that truth in a way that I know and trust and love and admire respect. So it's like a pop record, but it's like chok full of great Nashville songwriting and songwriters and to be able to share that with Nashville is really really really cool. And so yeah, I'll stay here. I'll probably get old and saggy and have a bunch of babies here someday. So I got a bunch of kids, um yeah, I mean I grew out on one of six, so like I don't see myself having one kid. But honestly, this has really been like I'm a heart lately. I think I want to adopt my Amy, my best friend, my cost adopted two kids from Haiti. Really, I just think it's such a beautiful thing. And for me, I think that I would love to adopt kids out of um like older kids. I just for some reason, um yeah, I like got caught up watching some videos the other night of these like eight and nine ten year old kids being told they're going to be adopted, and it was like, oh, it made me bawl my eyes out. It was like the most incredible thing, like these kids who think nobody wants them because they all they all want these babies, which is beautiful. I'm not knocking it, um, but I don't know what kind of really like touched me. And what I really connected with was seeing all these kids who are just maybe older. And she got a year ago and Amy's son is seven. Beautiful, that's amazing. Look at you. We've been this hour, an hour into this. Anything anything you'd like to to put out there before we wrap it up, um, go ahead? Stage is mine. Um No, I just I love what I do, and thank you for having me and Mike. Your hair is dope than I love Mike's hair. Changes it. It was orange and it was red and I'm so colorblind. It's all the same to me. No, and also I really appreciate how much do you support songwriters and new artists too. I just think it's really really really cool for those people that have somebody like you in their corner. So thanks, thank you for that. And you're a great interviewer, great questions. We didn't record any of this, This was just us talking. We're going to actually started now cool, I'm down, now, I'm warmed. Up Good episode one sixty six Emily Wise Band. You can follow on Instagram at Emily Wise Band w E I S B A N d UM And there are some pictures there that our grandma doesn't approve of. I love my grandma. My grandma is one of my favorite people. I just had to say it. Let me say this about about your Instagram. I don't follow you. I should follow you, but I don't follow you. I have trouble taking like some of the pick we do know what you mean here we go like, it's hard for me to sit because it looks like you're taking some of these pictures, like you just set the phone up and then you just like do something hot and just sit there, and then you write, I have trouble taking those kind of pictures. And I'm not hot but too, it's just a lot of me. I just let me. I'll teach you. It's actually super easy. Let me let me pull up your profile here. I was reading one of your because Emily and I will message occasionally. We've never met, but we message occasionally. There was one of them recently where you were like, hey guy, and what's the orange theory? Orange theory? I was gross and sweaty earlier. But this is how hot I really and I laughed. I thought it was funny. But I just I wouldn't have that. I wouldn't have that in me. I mean yeah, so I don't know. I'm just whatever whatever. I ever hit you up. No, No, that's probably why. If I actually thought he would, I wouldn't have posted it really embarrassing. Would No, I'm just kidding, I probably would have. I honestly, my Instagram is like, I'm a very open person. Every one of my siblings has my Instagram on their phone. None of my sisters have social media. They're all logged into mine, so they like keep track of my graham all the time, Like why do you pose that you look like an idiot? Blah blah blah. So yeah, I mean, I I don't know. I'm just kind of like I've had fun with instim. I thinks I'm super fun. You know. I wish I had the confidence to like get in my panties because I wear panties too, Like you know, today I was looking at the moon. I do try to like just be like you also do funny ones. I do do my face a lot. Some people love it. Some people hate it, but whatever, Like, for example, hey, we're on the radio, Bobby. Nobody can see this, I know, but they can go to your page and see it. Okay, like this is the one hey orange theory. Boy, here's me not red and blotchy and hiding from you. And you have on a denim jacket and you don't even have a shirt underneath it. It It looks basically, it looks basically like you have a piece of toilet paper wrapped around your waist. You're getting a lot of fa but I could you know what what's up? I liked the pictures. I think you know what I Nothing I've said has been I know you've been very supportive of it. I admire the fact it's funny. I want to know, how to do you see this picture you're in like a panty short with a bow in your hair. Yeah. And I was on St. Patty's Day and I said nope, no, no pinches for me. And my dad commented on it superstar and I called my dad. I was like, Dad, thank you for being supportive of my sketchy Instagram And he's like, well, honey, when you look that good, I mean whatever, I have to be. I love you. I love you. Thanks Dad. Say Jojo? Is you know Jojo? She commented on your Instagram. Yeah, we met right now, it's the end. I love her. She's one of my favorite people in the world. She's looking she's like a wise old owl. You'd expect her to be this like punky, like get out right now, like she was when she was nine. Let's leave, I know, and but she's so like well spoken and beautiful and just wise and I love being around her. We met it um the as cap Castle as cap does this writing trip to France every year. Um for this as cap Castle France. I'm gonna follow you right now, goes follow me. I'll follow you back. I'm gonna publicly follow you. All right. I'm so honored right now, Um, Emily Wise man might de anything you'd like to say. We're good. See this started pretty like professional and straightforward, and then I like where it went, like the second half like this part yeah, the part two of this. You know a little bit of everything. But we've never met, so all right, Emily Wise met episode one sixty six, thanks to our sponsor, and we'll see you next time here on the Bobby Cast. Thank you.