Hour 3 - Larry Baer, Dianna Russini

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final Hour in this Monday Dan and the Dan EDG. Dan Patrick Show the China Basin Park here. Thank you to the San Francisco Giants who said you can have what you need and we took advantage of that. The beautiful backdrop here with Oracle Park McCovey cove. Also, the Giants set us up a couple of years ago in Scottsdale at their minor league ballpark and at a beautiful time facility there. They even let us have the jumbo tron. We haven't gotten to use the jumbo tron yet, but you know, we're going to find out here in a couple of minutes if we're able to pull that off.

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Speaker 3: All Right, A couple of notes here.

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Speaker 2: The NFL Commissioner is going to meet with the media later today and there's some football related stuff, but probably some uncomfortable conversations as well that will be had. The Raiders are hiring Clint Kubiak, who will be the offensive coordinator in the Super Bowl. Mike Matt Lafleur's brother, the offensive coordinator for the Rams, will take over with the Arizona Cardinals. We'll try to get more of your phone calls coming up in this first hour.

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Speaker 3: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock, that's our streaming partner. Download the app if you haven't done so. He is the president and CEO of the San Francisco Giants. He's Larry Bear who joins us now. Yeah, Hi Dan, and he came bearing gifts as well, yefs.

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Speaker 4: We have you're you're now a giant for life.

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Speaker 5: Here we are the cream colored jerseys all right. That Willie May's Willie McCovey, Barry Bonds War.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's all yours.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and thank you for letting us have the facility here. Now can you can you turn on the jumbo trip Do you have something.

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Speaker 3: On your phone?

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Speaker 5: My button to turn on the jumper tron? Okay, got my little guests by my little shoe button.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever opened the stadium for your kids to go in and like they want to take, you know, have whiffle.

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Speaker 3: Ball or something like that.

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Speaker 5: You know, we've had we've had a lot of activities here for school groups and everything, not just for my children, but we've you know, it's it's such a magical thing, a ballpark. You know, we kind of take it for granted, those of us who come to it every day. But I have memories of going with my father out to Candlestick Park on the bus and watching Willie May's, Willie McCovey, Juan marashall play, you know, Hall of Famers, all Hall of Famers play. When the Giants moved to San Francisco in the sixties and then the seventies at Candlestick and this ballpark now Oracle Park, our new ballpark is core century old and going strong.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about the shelf life of stadiums, because it feels like there is a finite amount of time before we then tear something down and we maybe move someplace or build something on the same property here.

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Speaker 3: Why will this be different here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, I think it depends. I think it depends on a few things, on the location, on the feeld, on how you're able to really curate a ballpark over time. And I'll never forget when we acquired the Giants. Just back now to the nineteen nineties, early ninety ninety three, Candlestick Park was thirty years old or so, felt like it was seventy five years old.

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Speaker 4: Dodger Stadium was the same age thirty years about you know where the because Giants and Dodgers moved west at the same time, and it felt like it was ten years old.

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Speaker 5: It was maintained beautifully Dodger Stadium, and here it is going strong today.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we we very much hope that we can.

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Speaker 5: Be in the vein of Wrigley Field and Femway Park and you know, be around forever. There will be obviously there'll be improvements, and we do that every year. We do make changes and add and subtract and do things. But I think you know, we're really proud of the city of San Francisco in the location and the support.

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Speaker 4: So we're not going anywhere anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you did it right though. The Vista's public transportation. You have people coming into the city, which is really important building around Like that's what worries me. Bears are going to go outside the city, you know, the Cleveland Browns outside. I want people going into a city, not leaving a city.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think look, the urban part of the urban experience. We like to talk about work, live, play, people living downtown, going to the ballpark working downtown. It's a great urban experience here in San Francisco and lots of cities around the country, and I think if a ballpark could be part of that experience. I think also baseball uniquely because it's played during the day, often it's in the summer. You want to have that experience in and around a city with the restaurants and the economic benefit that you can get. Well, this ballpark open thirty years ago, there wasn't a lot around this neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: Now we have a whole area, a whole neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: It's really the growth engine of San Francisco is right where we're sitting here, right, you know, within a walking distance of the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: I was walking around yesterday, saw the statues McCovey, Marshall, Willie Mays. Where are you placing Barry Bond's statue?

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Speaker 5: TVD TBD on Barry? But we'll we you know, Barry. It's interesting because the five that we have are in the Hall of Fame, the five statues, that's been sort of our criteria. But we view Barry as a Hall of Famer even though he's not in the Hall of Fame. And that's obviously a big, long discussion that has been had will continue to be had, But in our minds, he is a Hall of Famer and statue worthy.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Kim.

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Speaker 5: We're proud that Jeff Kent is going in the Hall of Fame now coming from the New.

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Speaker 4: Era ballot, and a year from now.

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Speaker 5: We have some others, including Buster Posey, who is our president of Baseball Operations, who we believe should be his first. If you're in the Hall of Fame, so your statue is coming when.

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Speaker 2: You Yeah, okay, So does Bonds have any say in this.

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Speaker 4: In terms of whether he gets a statue or where it is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've we've talked to some de Barry with Barry about it, and uh, you know, we need to.

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Speaker 4: Have that conversation and help figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you come to grips with him being a Hall of Famer If I say, make the case for Barry Bond's Hall of Famer?

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Speaker 5: You know, look, I it's it's a tough one for us because I mean it's not tough decision. He we believe he absolutely should be in the Hall of Fame. Uh, you know, the there's criteria on the ballot and it's hard for us to opine on him versus other players.

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Speaker 4: We think that's a it's a really difficult.

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Speaker 5: Discussion, but by any objective, measure him and there are others that are not in the Hall of Fame that we believe are worthy in that era deserve to go. And that's you know that that's something It's not going to get sorted out easily.

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Speaker 4: Barry was from ninety three to ninety nine.

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Speaker 5: You know, before all before the allegations, was we believe Hall of Fame worthy for his career in Pittsburgh and San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: So you know that we can't.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just you have a feel for it, and you it's it's a subjective view.

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Speaker 4: And Barry's a giant.

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Speaker 5: Berry's a great giant, one of the greatest of all time, and we believe he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame and deserves a statue.

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Speaker 3: Fill in the blank. The Dodgers are blank for baseball.

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Speaker 5: The Dodgers are a great competitor for baseball for the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Do you hate do you hate Dodgers?

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Speaker 4: I don't think you know this. It's interching discussion.

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Speaker 5: I think you probably you've talked to the commissioner about this and others. You know, let's just take all the sports and here we are, you know, at Super Bowl Week. I think having a dragon to slay in a sport and if you go back, it was, you know, in the NFL was what's upon a time the Cowboys, the forty nine ers had their run.

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Speaker 4: That's not all bad. The Yankees did that.

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Speaker 5: In baseball you could say that's the Dodgers now having a dragon to slay? Is it necessarily a bad thing for the sport. We want to beat the Dodgers, and we want to be at the top of the division and one day and we want to be the dragon to slay. You know, baseball is unpredictable as well. When we won three championships in twenty ten, twelve, and fourteen, we weren't predicted to win any of those years and we didn't have a top five payroll any of those years. So hats off to the your organization because they've done it with obviously high priced players, but they've also done it with farm system and development.

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Speaker 2: Well, people lose sight of the fact, what were they two ounce away from losing that World Series? So it wasn't that they breezed through everybody. But when are you? When did you decide do you have to hate the Dodgers Like that comes with the rivalry, doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, let me tell you quick story. A couple of quick stories. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Number one, growing up in San Francisco, you know Juan Marischell and John Roseboro and a giant Dodgers and you know Mary Wills and Sandy Colfax and Don Drysdale with May's McCovey Marischelle. I mean, it was just one of the great rivalries of sports and it remains a great rivalry. So hate is I don't really. I don't like the word hate because it's just like it's it's a rivalry to get.

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Speaker 4: Your blood boiling in a good way.

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Speaker 5: But the story I wanted to say is in the Giants almost moved to Florida. This is nineteen ninety two, and the team was a financial on the ropes and that's when our group came together to buy the team. But there was a deal signed to move the team to Florida.

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Speaker 4: The number one the number.

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Speaker 5: One supporter of the Giants staying in San Francisco, Peter O'Malley and the Dodgers because we came out together from Brooklyn and New York in nineteen fifty eight. And this is a spectacular rivalry. So off the you know, on the field, we try to beat each other's brains in off the field, we're actually you know, colleagues and partners in trying to grow the sport and having opened up the sport in California, the first two teams west of the Mississippi, the Giants and Dodgers are it's a great rivalry. So the fans, we like the fans being energized and all, but we think it's, you know, really adds to the to the value of the sport having this rivalry.

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Speaker 2: He's the president CEO of the Giants, Larry Bear. Can you overspend on your team?

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Speaker 5: You know you can you over I mean it's the question is how do you define overspending?

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Speaker 4: Does it mean being in the luxury tax?

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Speaker 5: Does it mean if you do development the right way right in which we've had. We were lucky enough in that era when we won championships. Pretty much the entire team was homegrown, right between Buster Posey and Massive Bumgarner and Tim Linsecam and Brandon Crawford and Brandon Belt, and so we didn't overspend.

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Speaker 4: We didn't have to overspend.

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Speaker 5: You know, we were somewhere in the top ten, but we weren't in the top five and spending. So I guess the question is do you need to overspend to win? I would say the answer is no, But you have to have the right development in baseball.

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Speaker 4: Baseball is different.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you come off a college campus or a high school campus for that matter, and you've got you know, the very best players are in the minor leagues for three years four years, and that's really where a lot of the arms races now. It's not necessarily. Yes, signing free agents can matter, and we've had some great free agents Barry Bonds at the top of the list, who have mattered a lot. But if you didn't have the twenty four other players to pair them with and the guys that are coming up through the miners, it's it's it's hard to do it through free agents.

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Speaker 3: Only. Were you in on the uh O Tani sweetstakes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were in on their Timey.

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Speaker 5: We had show A sitting in just across the water here in the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: Trying to woo him, and you were gonna let him pitch in hit. Yes, because not everybody wanted to do that.

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Speaker 4: We were gonna let them pitch in head and we you know, and our.

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Speaker 5: Salary and and deal was competitive to the d was pretty much the same as the Dodgers. They it's said they the agents for him at the time, c AA. They basically set out the deal. And you know, we would have played along along with that deal. But you know, I look, we understand everything. He was in southern California. He is one of one. He's a unicorn. He's amazing, and he's good for the sport.

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Speaker 3: Were you closer to getting Otani or Aaron Judge?

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Speaker 4: Uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean Aaron Judge grew up a lot closer to San Francisco than show Hey did uh.

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Speaker 3: We I thought you were getting him. I thought I thought you guys were gonna we had.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting because Aaron's such a great guy and he's uh grew up near here. We totally understand going back to the Yankees. Decision to go back to the Yankee because you're a Yankee great and you step away from that. It was in some ways out of our hands in the sense that we were getting competitive.

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Speaker 4: On the numbers.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure there were any numbers that were gonna get him here if he if the Yankees decided in the end they were going to keep him. You know, we had a great event here with his h parents and Aaron was quote saying his favorite player growing up was Rich Ailia, who played shortstop play hit in front of Barry Bonds, right, And so when Aaron was growing up in the nineties, and so we.

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Speaker 4: Had a little event here where.

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Speaker 5: Aaron we were having a dinner and Aaron gets tapped on the shoulder. He looked, turns around, he said, Aaron, nice to meet you. I'm rich Familia. So look, we did, we did what we could. But you know, again, Aaron Judge is good for baseball. He's a tremendous player. We didn't walk into that thinking that there was some huge, you know, ninety percent chance he was going to come to us, because he he at the time was a Yankee great and to continue as a Yankee great is, you know, is a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the accommodations, not only this year, but a couple of years ago Super Bowl where we were in the Scottsdale Stadium.

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Speaker 3: It was wonderful. Your people have been great and we I appreciate the accomoday.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks Dan. We love the partnership. We love a partnership with you and your.

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Speaker 5: Your group and with NBC, and we look forward to on NBC in Peacock Sunday Night Baseball returning. And you saw our friend Bob Costas is coming out on the air, which is awesome.

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Speaker 2: I know Larry Bear, the President CEO of the San Francisco Giants.

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Speaker 2: What a beautiful morning, suns up Todd, ready to reveal the guns you're gonna if you got your giants long sleeve for that.

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Speaker 4: Broncos tank type I should have brought. Actually, it's probably good I did at it and since they didn't make it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's a meat Friday on a meat Monday. Here we have bacon wrapped scallops, We have wagou steak and eggs, and we have loaded baked potatoes.

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Speaker 3: Who has it better than we do? Buddy?

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Speaker 2: All right, talk a little baseball there, But the San Francisco Giant has been very, very hospitable, and uh, I think it would be nice to go over there and maybe run the bases at some point.

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Speaker 9: Ye, you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: The keys Maybe we kind of walk the bases. I don't know.

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Speaker 10: Touch I got a real head first slide into third kind of feeling going on.

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Speaker 9: That'd be sick.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna do Pete Rose there the heck? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean Bay Area Ricky Henderson, Well.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Ricky slide first when he stole the bass became the great greatest.

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Speaker 3: Of all time?

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Speaker 9: Now I am the greatest.

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Speaker 2: That was at third base and he and he slid in head first the best. I ran out of time with Larry Bear. I don't a lot of things talk about there. All right, what's the pole question? Results them? We'll bring in Diana Russini.

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Speaker 9: Right now, we've got up there two pole questions.

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Speaker 10: We have the best musical artist from the Bay Area, very content reversal, Oh right now, Metallica, I have about thirty nine percent of that vote, tie at twenty five with a journey and Grateful Dead Sentana and last that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 9: And then from Paul, we have are you a sunrise or a sunset? And sixty eight percent of the audience are a sunset?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, I'm in the sunset of my life and I.

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Speaker 9: Oh easy sunset.

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Speaker 4: Got a long way to go.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't like that under.

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Speaker 2: Uh seven and a half years.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're the one that's driving me to my grave.

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Speaker 4: You apologize for that back. You're gonna live a very, very long, healthy life.

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Speaker 3: You could be an accomplice.

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Speaker 4: But I dot it's such a harsh thing to say, you know how I feel about it.

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Speaker 3: I know, but I'm the almost like twenty.

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Speaker 9: Five saying cause of death.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it could be natural causes. Slash Todd Fritz like you could.

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Speaker 3: That's just dang joke, an awful thing. We make the.

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Speaker 2: Smooth segue into bringing in the athletics senior NFL insider co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast with Chase Daniel Diana Russinians on a program, look at that no longer a mom haircut?

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Speaker 3: Look at you?

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Speaker 2: Got a couple of kids now all of a sudden, look at you.

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Speaker 11: I retired the mom, Bob.

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Speaker 3: You did you know?

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Speaker 12: I woke up the other day and I said, you know, I want to feel young again.

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Speaker 11: These kids have warned me down.

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Speaker 12: I've aged fifteen years in a span of four years.

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Speaker 3: How many you have two kids?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I give two boys. They're four and three. They're thirteen months apart.

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Speaker 12: Oh, so it's like having twins.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm sure this shocks you. But they have a lot of energy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you do too.

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Speaker 11: Well, that's where they get it from.

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Speaker 12: And their father's probably ten times more energetic than I am.

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Speaker 11: So you combine that at.

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Speaker 2: You're the cool mom who covers the NFL. When they get to a certain age, it's like what games your mom going to?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Maybe for now, it's like, you know, have you ever met a t rex?

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Speaker 6: You know that that's what they care about. I've facetimed players before to just try the cool thing with them because they watch football with us on Sundays, and you know, we point out players and their little Eagles fans because their father is. So I've had players just you know, say hello to them.

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Speaker 11: They could care less. They do not care.

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Speaker 12: But if I could FaceTime a t Rex, me'd be good, or take them on a train.

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Speaker 2: But it's tough though, when you look at what is real like home life with kids. They're young and you're still trying to do your job to your standards there.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and also my role is a little different I'm not just an NFL reporter, I'm an insider. So there's this expectation that I have to be on all the time, and I am, but my phone's with me a lot, and so it's balancing the act of doing my job at a high level but also not.

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Speaker 11: Having my head and my phone all the time because I don't want them to pick up on those habits.

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Speaker 12: And they're old enough now to understand, they know what texting is, and they have this amazing ability that if it's like the higher ranked the sources, the higher the level, the louder they scream.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 11: So like my little two year old Joey, he's like, owner, I'm gonna go nuts right now, you know.

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Speaker 13: So.

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Speaker 12: But I will say the one thing in the NFL that I've really appreciated, and I don't think I've really ever said it out loud, how understanding the men in this sport have been about my transition into motherhood in general, not just because they also experience it and they've seen their wives, but just I've been in the car before and they're screaming or someone's yelling, and guys always like, don't worry about it. I'm gonna keep talking. I know you can hear me, and this is annoying. Don't get me wrong, it's annoying. But I've always I had had a conversation with an agent yesterday and my sons were screaming, and he.

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Speaker 11: Said, Hey, what do I call you later? Don't worry about go do with that. I just I've always really appreciated that in the NFL, especially.

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Speaker 3: What was your best scoop this past year?

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Speaker 12: Oh, we had a lot. I don't know if there was any one specific story that that we did this year that that was gangbusters. Maybe maybe Brandon Ayuk, which is you know, timely because we're here.

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Speaker 11: You know, he wasn't showing up. No one knew what was going on.

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Speaker 12: And Kyle Shanahan is is the best at being transparent with the media. He's one of my favorite coaches to cover because he doesn't lie. And I don't know if he does that intentionally or he's just self aware that he's a bad liar so he just doesn't do it. Whereas you know, we've seen so many other head coaches in football do such a good job of just faking through every press conference. So I don't know, I just started to notice Kyle was.

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Speaker 11: He was just saying less and.

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Speaker 12: Less and less and so on that a little bit. And then it turns out, unfortunately Brendan and I, you had never been at the facility at all, Like he wasn't even around, and so so Mike Silver and I my colleague, we broke that on a on a Friday night, and it was It caused a lot of a lot of problems after.

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Speaker 11: That because no one wanted that out just yet. But you know how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Give me the first question you would ask the commissioner.

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Speaker 12: Besides I personally am interested if we're going to have a Super Bowl internationally in the next five to ten years, I would like to know if you if we're really going to be doing this, Because the league just released all these international games just about a half an hour ago. We're just seeing more and more. But I'd say, just based on what I was reporting on the last two three weeks this coaching cycle, when you're seeing so many minority candidates get passed over this process, this past month stood out the most to me. This was the most shocking in terms of how little it seemed and almost how fake some of this stuff appeared to be.

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Speaker 11: In terms of these interviews and how they went about it.

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Speaker 12: And I felt like a lot of these teams knew exactly who they wanted to hire, and they weren't going to be willing to give a chance to anyone but that person that they had on their mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how's he dealing with that question?

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Speaker 12: He's just gonna probably have to pass it off, right, He's not going to be able to have an answer. But I think so much of this press conference today isn't so much about getting that direct answer, but it's to begin conversations so in the off season we can start addressing it.

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Speaker 11: I mean, he I don't think this is going to be one of.

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Speaker 12: His easier press conferences today, with how much is in the news.

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Speaker 11: Sometimes these are.

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Speaker 12: Just lollipop questions we go up there, they're not too much today. Today's going to be a heavy day for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know it's like when you are going to be deposed and your lawyer said, all right, here's the questions they're going to ask you, and he's gonna be ready to go, and somebody's going to say Steve Tish, Giana's owner and the Epstein Files eighteen game schedule, International everybody's going to play an international game.

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Speaker 3: Uh the turf uh refs officials. Yeah, transparency.

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Speaker 11: I know you're upset about the.

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Speaker 12: Is it bothering you that your that your head coach got out game managed by the opposing coach?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 4: Wow, I can't.

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Speaker 1: It's very touching at the scene.

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Speaker 12: So you guys have heard of a guy named stretch, right, John Stryker has his name? Have you heard it through a couple of interviews? He is Mike Rabel's right hand man. He's the genius behind that six foot four, two hundred and sixty pound head coach. He's the brains in there that uh he's actually stretches actually six six himself. Those two have truly become experts of the game. I think they're the best game managers of any head coach. They know this stuff, they have the bandwidth for it, They're obsessed with it. Rabel's obviously on the Competition committee, so he knows the rules in it now. And and I'd consider Sean Payton to be one of the brightest coaches as well. And they lost that game because Mike Raebel out smarter them. And that's why I think the Super Bowl, by the way is good talent wise, like on paper, Seattle's better.

00:26:13
Speaker 3: Yeah they are.

00:26:15
Speaker 12: But this could come down to something weird and bizarre that that Rabel pulls out of his back pocket this just because he knows it so well.

00:26:24
Speaker 3: When's the last time you got yelled at by a coach or player?

00:26:27
Speaker 11: Mike Rabel?

00:26:31
Speaker 14: Uh?

00:26:31
Speaker 11: It was actually the.

00:26:35
Speaker 13: It was.

00:26:35
Speaker 11: It was pretty It was a genuine yell.

00:26:38
Speaker 12: It was the year he was out and I was at the Senior Bowl and I'd had two back to back dinners with general managers, so it was like a double booked, but I had to make it work.

00:26:51
Speaker 11: And I had the same conversation with both these.

00:26:54
Speaker 12: Gms, and they were asking me, why do I think that Mike Rabel didn't have a job, Like why isn't he head coach right now?

00:27:01
Speaker 11: And I said, I don't know.

00:27:02
Speaker 12: I was like, I covered him a lot in Tennessee. I thought he was collaborative, he's a leader of players love him.

00:27:07
Speaker 14: I don't know.

00:27:08
Speaker 11: And they both offered up that they thought that he was too physically intimidating.

00:27:13
Speaker 12: So The New York Post sees this, or excuse me, I go on a podcast.

00:27:18
Speaker 11: The New York Post hears it.

00:27:20
Speaker 12: And it went from an intimidating figure that is perhaps.

00:27:24
Speaker 11: Scaring owners to like, Mike Riebel's too.

00:27:28
Speaker 12: Fat to get it.

00:27:31
Speaker 11: So he called me.

00:27:32
Speaker 12: He's like, why would you ever report that. That's ridiculous, that's not even true. I'm like, are you asking me if I think you're fat?

00:27:41
Speaker 13: You know?

00:27:41
Speaker 12: So, So that was that was not fun because I just think, you know, he didn't war.

00:27:48
Speaker 3: The record, You weren't calling him.

00:27:49
Speaker 11: No, no, I was really just relaying.

00:27:54
Speaker 12: But not that I was relaying to.

00:27:57
Speaker 11: I think it was Chase on the podcast that Hey, I was basically doing what I do all the time.

00:28:02
Speaker 12: Hey, I had these conversations with you general managers and they told me this is why they think, you know, Ravees doesn't have a job. And I just think that's interesting because the guy's so physically large, it's going to prevent an owner from hiring him.

00:28:13
Speaker 11: That's stupid.

00:28:14
Speaker 3: Paulie, do you have the article?

00:28:15
Speaker 4: Yeah?

00:28:15
Speaker 5: I found the article from February last year or two years ago, Mike rave with the headline Mike Rabel's physical appearance may have been too intimidating and turn teams off.

00:28:25
Speaker 9: Dane or any credited which was.

00:28:27
Speaker 11: The truth of what it was.

00:28:30
Speaker 12: But you know, I'm glad that you asked me about getting yelled at. I probably spend more time on the phone arguing with people in the lead, because I'm sure you guys are aware and you know this well. Everyone is so paranoid about information and they want it, they want control over it. And I like to dig and sometimes I like to poke around in places where people don't want to be poked. And and you have to have an ironclad stomach in this league to deal with it, because there's a lot of yelling going on in my house and it's on the other line. My husband jokes all the time, He's like, you fight with more people in football.

00:29:05
Speaker 3: Than we fight.

00:29:08
Speaker 12: And I'm a different person obviously, Like I have to be different with these guys because they want to push you around and they want a story told a certain way.

00:29:17
Speaker 11: But the truth is the truth.

00:29:19
Speaker 2: Do you think we're playing a super Bowl outside the United States in five if I said five and a half years the over under because everything's gambling, so yeah.

00:29:29
Speaker 12: It is.

00:29:30
Speaker 11: I do. I think I think I want it in Italy.

00:29:34
Speaker 12: But see now everyone's sport the coliseum are our friends Big Cat and PFT they give you a hard time because they know them all about the International Super Bowl game, because I just think that would be such a great experience because they obviously wanted here because it's an American sport and I get that too, But but why not do it in a place that that, like, like Tokyo, even where where there could be so much grow and it could be popular. The problem is just not as popular, you know, like there's not gonna be a lot of fans there. I don't think a lot of people are gonna take trips to.

00:30:08
Speaker 9: To go see it.

00:30:09
Speaker 11: I don't believe that.

00:30:10
Speaker 3: I think you have to do it in London. I think you have to be fair.

00:30:13
Speaker 12: Start there London, because hey, we started it here, we grew it here.

00:30:16
Speaker 11: Yeah. No, no, that would make sense.

00:30:18
Speaker 2: And people would go to London, you know, it's not you know, crazy travel to get over there, so I could see them doing that.

00:30:25
Speaker 11: What number super Bowl is this for you?

00:30:27
Speaker 2: I lost track you did? Yeah, it's probably thirty seven. That's unbelievable, Yeah, thirty six.

00:30:35
Speaker 11: What's one that stands out for you?

00:30:38
Speaker 3: Oh? The Seattle Patriots one?

00:30:40
Speaker 2: Really well, because I'm and I've told this story to my audience, but I'm under the goal post and so I'm handing out the trophy. So I'm I'm waiting for Marshawn Lynch to come. So he lines up to the right of Russell. Russell sends him over to the left, and I'm going, here he comes, and I'm just watching Marshaon Lynch and I'm going, Okay, I'm running through the rolodex of Okay, Russ will be MVP marsh Marshaon Lynch, some peep, Pete Carroll's gonna be up. There is Paul Allen, Like, you know, you start going, who am I interviewing? Next thing I know, Russ goes back to pass and I'm with my producer and I go, oh, bleep, like just throwing the pass. I didn't even know what happened. Next thing I know, I go, Man, Malcolm Butler, not that, Malcolm Butler's got that. And I went, Okay, Robert Kraft Brady who Gronk will be up? There is Malcolm Butler, Babe. You know all these things that went through my mind.

00:31:36
Speaker 12: Just tremendous that you had to maneuver that so quickly. I did my first.

00:31:40
Speaker 11: NFL sideline game for Netflix this Christmas.

00:31:44
Speaker 12: You know, usually when you guys have seen me on TV, it's pregame, postgame XFL.

00:31:48
Speaker 11: I did sidelines, but I mean, what was that. I don't know what that was.

00:31:52
Speaker 3: Those are just rash.

00:31:54
Speaker 11: All I know is that was the fittest I ever was.

00:31:57
Speaker 12: Like I remember, I had a coach in the NFL text me was like, You're on camera all the time, but you're not talking.

00:32:03
Speaker 1: You're just running out.

00:32:05
Speaker 11: I took your way too literal.

00:32:06
Speaker 13: That the USP wanted to make that entertaining, but that the postgame interview is so much harder than it appears, which is why people like you and Nancy and Tracy Wilson and Aaron Andrews and the people that we see to do it Melissa Stork we'll see at the super Bowl.

00:32:23
Speaker 11: They make it look easy, but it's very difficult.

00:32:25
Speaker 12: Especially in a moment like that where it switches up so fast.

00:32:29
Speaker 11: Yeah, and oh ps, you're a human being too. Your adrenaline is going through the roof.

00:32:33
Speaker 2: But this happened with Pittsburgh and Arizona. Arizona's gonna win the Super Bowl. Ben leads them down, throws the touchdown pad. So I'm doing Rolodex with the Cardinals and then all of a sudden, Ben throws the perfect pass and all of a sudden, I'm going now I'm on the podium, and then here's Ben. Ben thinks he's the MVP. I don't even know who the MVP is because Santonio Holmes just caught this and it happened and so quickly, and it's like thirty seconds before you're going live, and I'm yelling, yelling down to anybody who is the MVP. Nobody's saying anything because it's it's chaos, and then somebody walks by.

00:33:12
Speaker 3: Eventually I'm gonna stay. Five times they yelled at who is the MVP? Can somebody tell you?

00:33:16
Speaker 8: Man?

00:33:17
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I got the Steelers are coming up, I got Ben coming up, and I'm like, and somebody else out.

00:33:23
Speaker 3: Homes and I go, oh my god.

00:33:26
Speaker 2: Then I get in my headset Joe Namas bringing the trophy up, and you know, the Commissioner's going.

00:33:32
Speaker 3: Are you gonna are you gonna introduce me? Are you gonna introduce me? Said?

00:33:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I introduce like it's chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos, and then it you know, it hits you that there's one hundred million people watching, and all you want to do is get off the stage.

00:33:46
Speaker 3: That's it.

00:33:47
Speaker 2: And I just remember I got off the stage, and I just remember it's chaos, confetti players, and it's as if I'm in a vacuum. I didn't hear any noise whatsoever. I just walked to my trail at NBC and sat in there for like a half hour, and I'm going, oh my god, I don't know what just happened. It was, you know, Kurt Warner, Larry Fitzgerald, They're gonna win this, okay, And then all of a sudden, I completed that touch it.

00:34:16
Speaker 3: Damn. Good night back to you, Bob. Not much.

00:34:21
Speaker 11: How long does it take you to go to sleep after a night like that?

00:34:25
Speaker 13: Again?

00:34:26
Speaker 11: Then adrenaline again is just like a pussy long time.

00:34:29
Speaker 2: It's one of the greatest moments because I didn't tell anybody I was handing out the trophy in my family.

00:34:35
Speaker 11: Oh so they're sitting at home watching.

00:34:37
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you got people saying you're handing out the trophy and I'm like, yeah, you know, but I didn't want to tell them. I wanted them to watch in real time, and so I didn't tell anybody. But I went back, and I remember I turned on an episode of the Office and I just sat there by myself and had a beer. I'm in a trailer and I'm gone. I don't know if this is supposed to be, but it was.

00:35:05
Speaker 3: It was great. You just did your job.

00:35:06
Speaker 2: And then I went and I had a beer and I sat and watched an episode of the Office, and then that was it.

00:35:12
Speaker 3: So one hundred million people.

00:35:15
Speaker 2: Now I'm screwed up, by the way in front of a hundred million people.

00:35:18
Speaker 11: But yeah, but was Twitter around when you did that?

00:35:20
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's I mean, even just like I was having this conversation with someone last night, even just journalism in twenty twenty six, and I'm not going to bore everybody with that conversation of how it just it's so difficult to report and accurately and thoroughly without people taking apart your piece and really putting it out the way they would like to. So we did a story Alec Lewis and I my my colleague who covers the Minnesota Vikings very closely. He and I did a story yesterday on why they fired their general manager, and essentially we laid out all the reasons it was it was the draft picks that they didn't hit on, some of the free agents obviously, the quarterback situation, right, the timing, all of all this was bizarre, But we peeled it back a little bit more to remind the readers, like, hey, remember this was a little bit of an outside the box hire. This is someone that came from Wall Street and financed like he. This isn't like some guy that was, you know, working in seventeen different organizations, is working his way up. And part of the difference in what he the way he managed was he took paternity leave for his first and second child, actually while he was the general manager.

00:36:29
Speaker 11: Of the Vikings, So he took about two weeks off. He didn't go to practice, he worked remotely.

00:36:34
Speaker 12: And that's all anyone can talk about now is that he took He was fired because he took maternity, which is not what He did. Not get fired because he took maternity or paternity leave.

00:36:45
Speaker 11: But this is just kind of the this.

00:36:47
Speaker 2: Is where that's a sexy poll quote for somebody. Yeah, man, can you believe that?

00:36:52
Speaker 12: And you're like, uh, it's terrible because it's not the truth. It's not fair to the Minnesota Vikings If anything, the conversation that needs to be had is probably.

00:36:59
Speaker 11: Does the league need to maybe.

00:37:01
Speaker 12: Change the culture a bit and allow dads to take a little bit more time for.

00:37:05
Speaker 11: Their partners, uh and for their babies.

00:37:07
Speaker 12: I can tell you my husband tried doing that and day five, I'm like, go to work.

00:37:13
Speaker 3: Go to work.

00:37:13
Speaker 12: Stop looking at me, stop touching me, stop holding the baby. No one likes you here and I definitely don't. And then I got pregnant again, so that didn't last.

00:37:22
Speaker 11: Long time.

00:37:24
Speaker 3: Parent you let it touch you? Yes, I do.

00:37:28
Speaker 2: Diana Russini, the Athletics senior NFL insider co host of the Athletics Scoop City podcast with Chase Daniel, Thank you for stopping by.

00:37:35
Speaker 11: Thank you, it's so lovely to meet you in person.

00:37:37
Speaker 2: And well, thank you, Jacob. Break last call for phone calls. What we learn, what's in store tomorrow right after this.

00:37:43
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Oh that was a quick morning.

00:38:00
Speaker 2: Thanks to Heartland Steak Company, these steak and Eggs, the Wagou Steak and eggs awesome, the Bacon rap scallums awesome and more information. Go to Heartland steakco dot com. Last call for phone call seat and you want to clean up the poll question for the final hour of the program. By the way, a round of applause for the audience that came out this morning. Thank you everybody.

00:38:22
Speaker 4: That's audience all week.

00:38:24
Speaker 3: Yep, hey, we're great. All right.

00:38:27
Speaker 10: Poll question results, Yeah, best musical artist from the Bay Area Metallica about forty percent of that vote. There's a tie between Journey and Grateful Dead. Santana's still in last. And are you a sunrise or a sunset? Sixty eight percent of the audience is a sun set? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so am I.

00:38:46
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:38:47
Speaker 3: Let me see.

00:38:48
Speaker 2: In five days the Winter Olympics kickoff opening ceremony, not ceremonies, opening ceremony, Join the celebration on NBC and peacock And it's the NBA Finals, but it's the NHL Final, right right.

00:39:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, we dealt with that. I think we deal with that every year.

00:39:06
Speaker 9: Tensus plurality.

00:39:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're a college professor, you know those things. Yeah, sure, yeah. Mike in California, Good morning, Mike, what's on your mind. Thanks for holding.

00:39:17
Speaker 14: Hey, thank you for taking my call. Dan front row, back row, Welcome to California. Welcome to Super Bowl Week, the five greatest days every year of the Dan Patrick Show. The locations, the sets, the guests, the information shared, and the fans are just awesome. I love it. Thank you guys. You deserve a Sports Emmy for these five days alone. My question for you, Dan, why would an NFL owner even be considered for the Hall of Fame. They're not even really part of the game.

00:39:58
Speaker 2: They are part of the game because you have to high the people, build the infrastructure and Robert Kraft to me, I mean Jerry Jones got in. Did he get in because they won three Super Bowls?

00:40:08
Speaker 3: Did he get in.

00:40:09
Speaker 2: Because he helped build the league? So that's a contributor to the league if you want to put him in.

00:40:14
Speaker 3: But I don't.

00:40:15
Speaker 2: I don't have any problem with celebrating more people with the Hall of Fame. There's a backlog, and that's that's an even bigger problem that they're going to have, is there's only so many they can let in, and you're gonna have your adding to that backlog, certainly of coaches.

00:40:29
Speaker 3: Yes, Mark, Well, we blame the Jets, and the Jets are bad because of what ownership.

00:40:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Dolphins are bad because of ownership, so you got to give them credit.

00:40:38
Speaker 3: Am blame Tony and California.

00:40:41
Speaker 8: Hi, Tony, Hey guys, good morning. I got a best and worst and then a Sharif quash explanation. So the best Clippers blew off the Suns last night to remain the hottest team. Worst is obviously the Kawhi snub. He's shooting twice as many threes this year and could be the ninth player to join the club.

00:41:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, the NBA and free throw percentage.

00:41:07
Speaker 8: Yeah, and steals too. Uh but Sharif, it refers to sharia. Sharia law, which is like a religious law. The dance freedoms, including rock and roll. So the Chikh is driving the Cadillac, but doesn't want anyone to degenerate the faithful with that crazy cash boss around at the KASBA.

00:41:26
Speaker 3: Oh thank you. Sharif doesn't like that, Uh, Todd, would you learn today? The Saints and Browns are about to play a game at Paris. What did Paris ever do to the NFL?

00:41:36
Speaker 10: Seatan Having a dragon dislay in sports is not a bad thing.

00:41:41
Speaker 3: Paul, we make it.

00:41:42
Speaker 9: The keys to the Giant Stadium.

00:41:44
Speaker 3: I want to go out and run the bases.

00:41:45
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