374 | What to Do When Children Want to Save What They Built - A CCPT Q&A

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Hi,

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I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,

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The Kid Counselor.

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In today's episode,

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I'm answering a question from Natalie in Pennsylvania.

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Hello to all of you up in PA.

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We actually do not have hardly any Pennsylvanians in the online community.

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I actually looked that up the other day because someone was asking for

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referrals to somebody in Pennsylvania that was CCPT,

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and I think we might only have one.

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So,

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you Pennsylvanians need to rally and you need to get in the

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Collective because we need people that we can refer clients to.

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So,

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that's my public service announcement for the day.

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So,

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I'm gonna read parts of Natalie's question and we'll dive in.

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This is about when kids want to

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build things or hide things or take things home

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from the playroom,

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which is a question I get asked pretty regularly

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in the coaching and on the collective calls.

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But I don't think I've ever done a specific podcast about it.

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So,

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I think this is gonna be really helpful.

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So,

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Natalie,

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thank you for the email.

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I'm a school-based therapist in Pennsylvania and I have a bag

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of toys that I bring with me between different schools.

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I have several clients who like to build with Legos and

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want me to protect or keep safe the things they've built.

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I also have a client who will choose to hide the things he's built.

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I'm confused on how to address this.

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Should I be protecting the things these clients build,

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even if it means that there will be less Legos for other clients to build with?

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Maybe I need more Legos.

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Maybe I shouldn't have Legos at all.

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Also,

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do you usually leave toys hidden if a client hides them?

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What do you do if another client finds the hidden toy?

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All right.

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So that's a lot of questions,

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but we'll take a peek at each one together.

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The fact that you go between several different schools,

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I think this creates a little bit of a different

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dynamic because for those of you mobile play therapists,

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meaning

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you are not in a static playroom,

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you are going in between homes,

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you are going in between schools,

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you are going in between sites,

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when you are a traveling play therapist and you have a mobile kit,

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It's a different dynamic than when the child

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comes to a playroom and your playroom does not change.

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You are setting up and tearing down

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all the time.

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The playroom just gets reset.

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And so that's a little bit of a different

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dynamic for us in a brick and mortar playroom.

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A child can say,

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I want that to stay hidden,

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and there is a chance,

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in fact,

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that that toy is going to stay hidden

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because if no other child finds it,

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it could still be there feasibly next week

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when you set up and tear down every single week,

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you're bringing all of your toys with you.

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So there's no way that that item is going to be

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in the same place that the child put it.

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that's a little bit of a different dynamic.

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You can actually use that to your advantage

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because when you make expectations known,

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You just simply say,

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oh,

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you chose to hide that there and you're hoping

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it'll be there when you come back next week.

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That's the reflection of content

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and the narrative summary.

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The expectation would be,

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but you know that I have to set up and tear down every time I come.

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you know that I pack all my stuff up and go to other schools.

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Or you know that these toys don't stay here all the time,

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they're only here when I'm here.

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Or something along the lines.

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And so you're able to actually give a very clear explanation for why

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the toys are going to be different.

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As far as.

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want you to protect or keep safe the things they've built.

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I think this is really kind of a therapist's discretion kind of scenario

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there have been times when a child is

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a quarter of the way through a Lincoln Log build,

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and they say,

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will you keep this and then I can finish it next time.

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the majority of the Lincoln logs are still available for other kids to play with.

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partially constructed log cabin with Lincoln logs.

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I will,

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in certain scenarios,

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move that aside or move it out of the playroom.

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And then the child has the opportunity to ask about it the next time.

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If a child makes an entire marble run

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using every single marble run piece,

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if y'all aren't familiar with a marble run,

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it's all these little plastic shoots,

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and you can construct all these different

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configurations,

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and then you drop marbles and they go all the way down to the bottom.

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And often you can have marbles race.

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If you do a dual marble run,

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they're racing each other.

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a really fun

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component to have in your playroom.

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obviously if the child makes an entire marble run.

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All those marble run pieces need to be available for

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every other kid that you're going to see that week.

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you wouldn't leave the marble run constructed,

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but you might leave the partially constructed log cabin from the Lincoln Logs.

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I think that's more of a clinical and case by case judgment call

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that other kids could still play with something even

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if you preserve what that child was working on.

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probably lean in that direction.

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when a child constructs the marble run,

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obviously you can't

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like pick it up and do something with it.

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So they leave it in the middle of your playroom floor

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and say,

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Don't let anyone touch that.

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Don't let anyone do anything with that,

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and I want that to be here when I come back.

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That's when you need to be really clear on expectations.

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So that's when you're gonna say something like,

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you are really hoping that that'll be just like it is next time,

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but you know that I play with other kids and you know that I reset the room.

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So we're always trying to set expectations for a child

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If they hide something.

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complicated amount of toys,

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or something like that,

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and you would want those blocks to be replaced where they normally go.

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But if they hide something small they made,

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if they hide something small that they built,

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if they had something small that's just a toy.

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I often will not

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sometimes because I forget when I clean the room,

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it doesn't matter to me if that is put back.

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It's not like it's going to interrupt the play of other children.

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And then sometimes other kids find it throughout the week,

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and then sometimes it's still there when the child comes back.

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if I put it away and or if other kids find it,

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and a child comes back in

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and it's the first thing they do,

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almost always,

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if they wanted you to keep something safe,

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if they hid something,

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if they wanted something to be preserved,

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almost always the first thing they're going to do is run in and check.

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And when they realize that it is not there

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or it has been found.

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That is a therapeutically valuable moment.

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They're going to have to work through

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whether or not

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are satisfied with that,

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whether they're frustrated,

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whether they feel betrayed,

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whether they're going to yell at you,

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whether they're going to blame you,

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whether they're going to just build it again,

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whether they're going to give up on the notion of hiding things,

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but that's in a therapeutic relationship

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and in a therapeutic environment.

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That that wrestling is taking place

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and that's meaningful.

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You can't construct moments like that in the playroom,

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but when they happen,

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they're actually really needed for the child.

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A child needs to be let down.

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A child needs to be disappointed.

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A child needs to work on frustration tolerance.

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Now,

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and let me be really clear,

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because if that's taken out of context,

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someone's going to quote me on that and take it out of context,

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and I'm going to seem like I've gone off the rails.

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A child needs this,

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so I'm gonna make it happen.

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Lord help me.

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Let me be really clear.

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We as CCPTs are never

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going into a session going,

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well,

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this kid needs to have some frustration tolerance,

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so let's figure out how to make that happen.

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That is not what I'm saying.

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When those moments spontaneously organically unfold.

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And often subconsciously the child is purposefully

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hiding something

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so that they subconsciously,

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purposefully have to deal with it when it's not there.

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So let's be clear,

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kids know what they need to work on.

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And kids will naturally become better versions of themselves.

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If they know they want things a certain way,

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they'll put something there that they know good and

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well probably isn't going to be there next time,

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so they have to face it.

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when those moments unfold,

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and we had nothing to do with it.

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Those are very powerful moments for the child.

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So not agenda driven at all,

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not

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on our part at all,

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but they need those moments

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to work through stuff

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because it forces them to confront

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the junk that they carry around and the expectations that they have,

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and they are working toward regulation.

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So Natalie,

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I hope that is helpful.

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As far as your question about Legos.

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Most of the time,

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I advocate against Legos.

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They are very small.

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There's so many of them,

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they hurt really badly if you step on them.

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most of the time we say that Legos are not necessarily warranted in the playroom.

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You do want things to build with,

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obviously,

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but you can do connects,

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blocks,

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Lincoln logs.

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Magnet tiles,

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all kinds of other things that will allow a child to build

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that do not

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include all of those sharp,

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tiny,

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hard little pieces.

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do you need more or not have Legos at all?

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Completely up to you.

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But many CCPTs do not have Legos in their playroom.

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just kind of giving you that thought.

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when the child comes in and it's there,

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you reflect the excitement.

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When it's not there,

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you reflect the disappointment.

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When they blame you.

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oh,

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you're really upset that that's not where it is,

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but you know that other kids come here.

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You know that I have to pack up my toys.

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And you can only fall back on that if you've already set that expectation

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when the child first indicated that's what they wanted.

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When you give those,

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you know,

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statements,

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that helps you to fall back on that,

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which makes you trustworthy.

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The kid may not like it,

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but the kid doesn't feel betrayed.

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When a kid feels betrayed

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is when you say,

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you want me to keep that right there,

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and that's all you say.

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then they say,

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you knew

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that I wanted you to keep that right there,

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and then by that point,

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there's a fracture.

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So we're very clear with kids.

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We're setting expectations so that they understand

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what will likely happen.

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sometimes

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things go differently than what I even think.

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When I,

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sometimes a kid will hide something and I'll go,

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there's no way that's going to be there next week.

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it is.

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So sometimes I'm surprised,

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but most often

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it is not in the state the child left it.

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It's not where the child left it.

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And it's not preserved the way they were hoping,

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and that is something that they learn to deal

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with as they go through the CCPT process.

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Natalie,

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I really appreciate your question.

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I hope that that was helpful for all of you.

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I'm trying to get through my questions.

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I know that some of you have been waiting a little bit.

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I am working through them.

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I'm thinking about doing another lightning round

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just to kind of get a whole bunch done in one fell swoop.

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So,

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if you're waiting on a question,

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I have not forgotten about you,

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and I might just condense a whole bunch into one episode.

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Some of you said you really like that,

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so

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I'll,

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I'll work on that.

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I love y'all.

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Have a good week.

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We'll talk soon.

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Bye.

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Thank you for listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.

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