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Speaker 4: Former teammate, former teammate. If you're yeah, yeah, talk to me about your time, Drew, We rock for good. We had a strong ten days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of times after practice I'll go trying to make some conversation with him. He's taking some business calls. We'll catch you later. Yeah, we'll talk shop later.

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Speaker 3: But the effort was put in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, effort was put in there. Yeah. Yeah. We enjoyed some hot a couple of hot tub moments I had with him and taste. I'm thinking, Drew Brees, you're in there. Got a couple of laughs. One of the one of the days they were talking about or we were talking about how Taysom Hill could squat like over six hundred pounds, which is, did you insane? I I haven't got see it because we were in we were in we were in training camp. You know, Brian back into training camp too.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But everybody was talking about how Taysom Hill could squad over six hundred punds And I'm sitting there like that is that is insane for him, all the positions he plays. JP said it maybe the greatest athlete, maybe the greatest football player, pure football player of all time. Uh, but the squad over six hundred pounds is ridiculous, disgusting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the origin story these ten days is when your back started.

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Speaker 4: Correct, No, my back started Raiders. That was later that year year.

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Speaker 3: So you're sitting there at the time thinking, man, I just put some win on my back to take some hill. If you can do six, I can at least three hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I could get three hundred at that time, easy. Maybe four? Yeah, I could get four.

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Speaker 3: If you're if you were going and you did a full warm up, core engage the whole thing Dobson would do with the legs. How much do you think you could squat.

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Speaker 4: Right now today? Oh, I wouldn't. Okay, hypothetically, I'm saying I wouldn't, like I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because your back would be fucked up the next day. I'm saying, like, totally warmed up, hypothetical, what can your legs handle today?

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Speaker 4: Once?

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Speaker 3: Ten times?

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Speaker 4: Bro Like, my back hurts when there's a bar on my back, Like I it doesn't matter how warmed up I get. There is pain in my low back when there's a bar on my shoulders.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry for asking the question.

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Speaker 4: You kept trying to reward it like I'm just supersing no matter what different world it hurts. I'm a goblet squader. I hold a dumb bell in front of my chest. Hell yeah, seventy pounds.

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Speaker 3: Oh see, big dog stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Some would yeah, some could say big dogs. Some could say like, man, he's really fell off because in Nebraska I was over five hundred. I was an over five hundred guy.

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Speaker 3: Now we are shooting the Bus with the Boys episode before we'd their weekend recap, so we're not really into the whole Nebraska. I think we haven't got your thoughts on it. Should we wait?

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Speaker 4: No, it's just a weekend recap. We're gonna wait for people out here that are listening right now. Obviously, my weekend kicked off with the Nebraska el on Friday night. You can check all that stuff out. We covered it on the football recap show that came out yesterday. We talked all things football on the recap show that drops on Mondays. Here we're here for some more fun, get some good interviews, talk some spooky stuff, catch up in the old Chad Powers, maybe some shout out, no free shoutouts, some pet peeves feel has been begging for those segments to come back. The tier talk we have going on. But yeah, how was let's start off. Let's go ahead and start. You wanna start with my weekend? Your weekend?

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Speaker 3: What do we go ahead? Youre already talking.

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Speaker 4: Listen. We all saw what happened Friday night. We talked about that yesterday, and.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about it again.

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Speaker 4: There we go again. We ain't gotta talking about it. We're all eyes on Northwestern and.

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Speaker 3: We'll say this too, could be a positive long term for Nebraska.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, I'm thinking about Northwestern, got you so.

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Speaker 3: For us on this bus that's not thinking about Northwestern could be a positive. But time about the weekend, dude, Vanda game fans.

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Speaker 4: Great, it was a It was a great weekend. Weirdly, weird, fun, great, all mixed together. Saturday, we went to uh myself, Charrow and Rue. We went to the Vandy game. We went to the Fall Don't Light Tour with Josh pat They were out there at Vanderbilt for Vandy LSU and I told you, guys, I said this yesterday, but I've been I've been telling everybody that LSU was a bunch of frauds. And we got to see it in person. We got to see it in real time. Cad McConnell. That clip of Cad mcconne going around where he body bags a couple of guys.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: But we had a lot of fun. Got to meet Josh Pate's wife, Savannah, just a wonderful person. Had a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Rue.

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Speaker 4: She's still out on mascots, doesn't fuck with him and Tiger tried coming up and messing with her. I'm like, hey, are their pay of little stuffed animals a tiger? She calls him Tiger and I'm like, hey, Tiger, there's there's Tiger's big brother right there, Like he wants a high five. And stuff like that, and Rude's stoneface like just like you know, slowly looks over at me like that, what am I supposed to do here? I'm like, hey, she ain't about it, She ain't about the Yeah, she's not about the mascots situat Yeah, yeah, you want to get my high five, you know how you're like demonstrating it in front of her, like, hey, he's good people, She's not having it. Wasn't about it, And that.

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Speaker 3: Is one of my kid's fault, that your child has that fear.

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Speaker 4: Ye, yeah, yeah, she's scared of masks. She's scared of mascots, like anything that's a little too big or demonstrative. She's not about it. The Michael Myers is really what tipped her over sideways on finding that mask back in the closet and then yeah, and just popping up in front of her face with the mask.

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Speaker 3: How to train your dragon masks? It just gets in her face and starts pushing it around. It was over. It was over from that moment. And yeah, we're will and I are sending the bean bags. I'm just like gotta feel guilty. My child. Ain't nothing you can do, but yeah, being kids, right, when's done it to her sister, she kind of just takes it in. We're all about the spookiness in this household. But go ahead.

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Speaker 4: We had a We had a great day at Vanderbilt. Shout out to staff at Vanderbilt. They did a great job hosting us. We had all some seats, we had some pre game field passes. Sunday, Bill Compton is now married. My dad got married, So we made a we made a trip out there. Saturday night. We had a stream. This was on Sunday, Saturday night. We had a stream Tennessee, Alabama. I'm sure we'll get into that once we get the boys involved. But Sunday flew out. Old man got married. Uh so got to make it, you know, got to go out there Old Farmington, bond Ter, Missouri, see some friendly faces, some some familiar faces, and then we flew back. Puked on the plane. That was abysmal. I'm talking Team America Exorcism style. Oh shit, I almost started puking. It smelled, yeah, it was. She she she like she was like leaning back and then she puked on herself and we're like it's okay, and then she just starts puking in the middle and it's everywhere. Yeah, you know, Charles trying to say it's all right, sweetheart, I'm going, oh my.

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Speaker 3: God, this is a couple's retreat. When Vince Bond's with this kid and he poops in the toilet and he goes, we don't got to say nothing to the flight attendant.

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Speaker 4: We know this was a bad deal. Yeah, this one smells everywhere. It's brutal. Fly back that day and then take the wife. We go to Dermot Kennedy concert. Any Dermot Kennedy fans on this bus. I know of him, great artist. Oh hang on, I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 5: One of the first times we met, you were like, of course you're trying to clown on me and you were playing your music. He were like, I bet this is the type of shit you like. And you turned on Durmke Kennedy.

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Speaker 4: He stays on the playlist.

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Speaker 5: He's good.

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Speaker 4: Charles was obsessed with Dermot Kennedy. I've always liked her mott and getting to watch him in person, it was it was all time, very powerful, very powerful voice. At the Riemann he started to do some uh you know where they'll like take the mic away and he's just singing to the crowd, like both of the artists, the guy who covered for him halfway are then not the guy who went out who opened for him, not covered for him, open for him. Both of them did. Like the acoustic version where they're singing to the crowd, very intimate. It was awesome. He's awesome. Dermot Kennedy was awesome and so yeah, very jam packed weekend, very fun weekend all in all, four point five nice. Yeah, all right, not bad, ye, not bad.

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Speaker 3: My weekend phenomenal. Well, obviously we do the stream Thursday night wake up. Early last year before the Northwestern game, I took a win to a Michion game, her first Mission game. We did the whole thing like it's a it's a true brainwashing experience when you do with your children, because it's like you land, there's no nose on the weekend, it's you want candy, go ahead, Yes, we go to Benny's. Benny's there. He's like Albanian or something, but he's all about letting the kids do. He's like got the kids in the back room, like making their own pancakes, making their own hot chocolate. He's just bringing out food over and over again. He's bringing out like shots of like scotch that he's got in the back. It's like, this is a diner, Denny, Like, Benny, what are we doing? So the same thing takes place this weekend. Willow is juiced up, like five six days before. I'm showing her all the things we're gonna do. I'm pulling up photos of the m Den, I'm pulling up photos of the diag all that, like the central campus area. And she's like, can't sleep two nights before, can't sleep the night before we get on the plane. She's fired up, just me and her and we land. Dave was essentially our chauffeur for the entire weekend. We go in the first place we go to is Benny's. Get right there, you guys all been there. We go around the corner, Yeah, sitting that back booth. Benny's got Willow making her own hot hot chocolate. He brings out pancakes, brings out hot dogs, brings out this little cheese plate that he sets on fire in front of Willow like it's a five star Michelin Michelin star restaurant and it was awesome. Will stuffs her face. Then we go to vm Den and Willow was when I'm looking at Sugar the Mden photos earlier in the week, she sees a cheerleading outfit and she is gassed up on the cheerleading off it. She like she wants it, she needs it as bad as she wants to breathe. So we get there. They don't have her size, and it's like We've gotten the stuffed animals. We got Mama mug, we got Sissia mug, we got key chains, we got the whole thing, like everything's Michigan Wolf Rain. But if we don't get this fucking cheerleading outfit, essentially this weekend is ruined. We go in the back, some guy helps us out, We sift through, we find this seven and eight. We get this onesie dress thing that is that is like the cheerleading off it. She is over the moon immediately as soon as we buy it. Can I wear it? Can I wear? It's like, let's just wait till tomorrow because it's kind of chilling. I'm thinking, I don't think. I don't think Willow is gonna be able to wear this during the game and not be freezing. Turns out of a seventy five degrees. It was absolutely beautiful. After that, Pat Collin, friend of us. We go to his house, do s'mores, We do a little bonfire. We got spooky stuff everywhere. We got seasonal beverages, very nice, intimate, like spooky, his wife, both kids, Willow, it was awesome, bags of candy. And then the next day get the outfit on. I'm looking at the weather. It's like, all right, it's gonna be good. Willow does not care about watching the football game at all, could not care less. We're on the sideline. She's asked me where the cheerleaders? Like when are the cheerleaders gonna be here?

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Speaker 4: Gotta go get the flame?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got and so we got a bunch of photos. First cheerleaders pop up. I'm like, guys, can you please take a photo of my daughter? They give her the pom poms. They're very sweet to her. Willow is grinning ear to ear on it. And as we're going around to get our seats, some Stafford, because Willow's under eighteen, obviously like, hey, she can't be down here if she's under eighteen. So we near your seats. While we're going there, Stafford sees some more cheerleaders. Willows like, we're not going anywhere to get photos with these guys as well, get the photo done, get up in the stands. We end up sitting in like gen pop area, which is the view is nice because we're like twenty five rows back so I can see the whole field. I can see what kind of personnel we're in. I'm like dialed in. Problem is a lot of people want to get photos, want to talk about anything other than Michigan football that's going on, anything else with Will there, with Willow there, They're trying to get photos. I'm like, a right, will you stand by grandpa.

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Speaker 4: For a second. People were like you know what I mean, like kind of see, kind of be like, hey, just quick photo. I expect what you do.

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Speaker 3: And with eighty percent of the people were very aware of well, hey, I know you're.

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Speaker 4: With your family.

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Speaker 3: You might if I get a quick photo and I get the quick photo, They're like, so man, espn huh yeah, man, it's sick. We have a lot of fun and we go to the expert. So, man, how's will doing? Is he dead? It's like, yeah, I think I think he's gonna be like text him last night. He didn't text me back, but I know that's the sad right now, you know, so like those are the conversations taking place. Then it's like I'm sitting in these stands and I'm trying to watch a football game. Will it wants a pretzel? Great, we'll get a pretzel. Will it wants popcorn? Grandpa will take you to get some popcorn. Well, like you guys will dial it in. Finally, I sit there and I think my phone. I'm like, you want to play some you want to look at Addy's photos on this camera? And I had to give her. I had to put the phone on her so I could watch the game. Look back at these this older couple. I'm like, this is great parenting, am I right? They're like anyway to get it done. And we watched the game the first half. I mean we broke it all down in the weekend recap, but overall four point five man Sunday, Yeah, Sunday, I get home. We get home Saturday night. Do we do this stream Sunday? Tayling has a for nature nurture. She has like this farmer's market and she takes the kids does like you know, child labor laws. We probably get see an s called on us. She has them audishing out seeds to everybody, and the kids sold like two hundred dollars in seeds, so yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they'd Taylor texted me.

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Speaker 3: She's like, I just told the kids to take these seeds and ask people to buy them, and it worked. Sold out, sold out of the seeds. So shout out Tailing and her business savvy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not really selling any seeds. You know what, we got to activate the kid out right, We activated get out there, started going go ask go ass adults to buy them. They won't say know to.

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Speaker 3: You, dude. When I was eight, my mom used to work at this place called Harold's in Cave Creek and she wanted to teach me the value of a dollar. So I bust boyed with her for a day, made like two hundred dollars, and that day just sat there and talked to the older people. So in the middle of winter, so all the snowbirds were there. Didn't understand the value. After that, I was like, eat money's easy. Money's a joke, dude. This is the easiest thing in the world to get eight years old. My homes like, god damn it, but yeah, man, awesome weekend next weekend. First time ever kids are going to disney World. That'd be fine gooing at disney World.

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Speaker 4: Next Fast Spookie season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing the same thing we did at the We got the tour guide for the like at the Pro Bowl, where it's like they kind of you get to hop there's like the fast past above the fast past, that's above the fast pass thing. And then we got Mickey Mouse's Not So Spooky Halloween kids are I'm so excited. I might be more excited than them. They don't understand what they're about to see. It's gonna be awesome. So action packs, spooktober Core, Memory Weekend Loading, Yes, absolutely. Two For Willow in a row, we're getting on the plane to go back. She's like, when can we come back to Michigan and then she keeps saying this bullshit to me. Honest, it's a miracle Michigan one.

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Speaker 6: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: She's I just can't believe we won. I'm like, all right, Willo. But we get home and win. Wanted to rewatch the game, the highlights, so we put it up on the YouTube TV like kids are dialed right now.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: The Yeah, we're definitely brainwashing the shit out of him right now. It's all Yeah, it's going exactly how he want. Sure, it's going exactly how you want.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I might have to make I just until the opportunity comes, like rude. Now has been two years in a row to Vandy games, Vandy dubbs. Wait was it a double last year against Texas? Close loss? That's right?

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Speaker 3: Competitive ball games in Vandy. Ye, yeah, diego Pavia. Her favorite player, Kate McConnell.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kate McConnell, for sure.

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Speaker 6: Kate.

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Speaker 4: I hated you know, I know he listens to all of our stuff, so I know he's listening right now. But we were bummed we didn't get a flick. I was in on the end zone side, but it was LSU and we kind of got there fifteen minutes before the game. Send me up after. He's like, bro, I literally He's like, I looked everywhere and I couldn't find you, and I I kind of told him. He said, they told me you were going to be on the newly renovated in. I was like, no, I was on the OG and he's like, I probably looked like an insane person going around. He's like, after we won the game where we like scored a touch on. He's like, I'm going up and looking around everywhere to see if we can I can find you because I knew you were bringing the fan.

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Speaker 3: Damn I know.

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Speaker 4: I said, don't worry, we'll come to another game.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 4: We got to get to his face, well about what going to another game? Well, we can probably make another game. They got a couple, they got some more. They got a game day this weekend. One of my best friends, Brad Lebron. You guys know the Biscuit, He's getting married.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out Brad.

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Speaker 4: But also but also yeah, football season wedding and it's on Sunday, and it's in New York. Yes, listen, it's his day. They should be selfish. But what a selfish prick move.

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Speaker 5: I feel like you've been screwed on a lot of Sunday weddings.

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Speaker 4: Yes, bro, I mean this will be two in a row. Yeah, I'm oh, man like, hey, I listen, I get it, but you I ain't want to come to this Sunday. Yeah on a Sunday. I'll miss is some football right now, dude, I.

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Speaker 3: Know everyone's always talks about the weather. It's like spring has the same thing. They got the same weather.

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Speaker 4: Is super nice. It's just in the Missouri one didn't didn't bother me as much because it's it's close. But New York when you're you know you're from Missouri. I guess she's out from the northeast. But Jesus, why are we doing it out in New York? And they got married, they got engaged and stuff not too long ago, like they put it together fast.

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Speaker 3: Brad lea broad you have it himself a wedding in Salem, New York. Yeah, yeah, pretty incredible love love Brad great got the biscuit. He he shot me a text with love if you came. Blah blah blah. I'm not gonna be able to make it. Disney World, Disney World, Disney World. Will and I sat in the play and I was like, I kind of feel bad. I'm not gonna make He say you ain't gotta go, and he's like, pissed off about you and gotta go. That's like one of my best friends. I have to go self.

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Speaker 4: Brad Well, it was more Yeah I did say that, but I'm also thinking, like, yeah, in your situation, I wouldn't I wouldn't go.

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Speaker 3: I do love Brad though, and I know that, like I know Brad's personality, and so like I just would I know that the next time I see Brad, He's gonna say something the next time and the next time and the next time, and it'll follow me for a few years. Yeah, And I just think, like, yeah, I'm gonna have to deal with those bullets because my family and I were gonna go to Disney World. Yeah, great guy, I'll get him a gift. I probably won't get him a gift, but I'll text him, Hey, congratulations on your on your marriage. That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Should we get into uh tear talk? Do we want shout outs? Pet peas? Where we want to go?

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Speaker 3: Let's bring back shout out real quick.

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Speaker 4: Shout out, no free shout out, Yeah, I uh.

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Speaker 3: Do you mind? Go ahead shout out, no free shout out, pilot Bob shout out, no free shout out. Pilots that you think, no matter what happens, I'm safe. The pilot we had from being a to titoborough thank you, Thank you fly House and JJ at Flyhouse. This guy gets on. He's old, he's probably what in the seventies. Yeah, he's got over thirty thousand hours of flying. I think he was in Vietnam.

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Speaker 4: Two tours in Vietnam, four tours in Afghanistan boom, and he's just generational.

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Speaker 3: Flight face talks to us. He's one of those calm stoic, like you know, older gentlemen that just like make you feel safe no matter what we get done. We fly in at Teeterborough, goes a little windy out there, but now now the the risky part happens. You guys have to drive like he just knows like flying he is it does not matter what happens on that airplane. He's gonna take care of business when we get back. Dude, He's like, hey, glad to have you guys back. He starts showing me his mother was a World War two pilot who was one of the only women World War two pilots who would take bombs and try to take out submarines and fly like really low. She's like, she's this is the only woman pilot to do this, like Medal of honor type stuff like it was. This is as we're getting on the flight to come back to Nashville, and so you sit there and I always usually fall asleep on flights anyway, but there's always a PCU. That's like what if? And then you're no, I'm not gonna go there, and you go to sleep. This was one of those things where it's at the blanket put over my head and knocked out for pretty much your entire flight.

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Speaker 6: You said he has thirty thousand hours.

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Speaker 3: He said, he yeah, because I remember saying, you know, you're an outlier three times over, and he's like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's over three years of life.

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Speaker 4: Of Yeah, that's just he gets in the air. He loves me in the air.

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Speaker 3: You could tell what we're on ground. It's like you see someone with their sea legs. He won't really, he didn't. He's got air legs.

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Speaker 6: He spent three He's like, spent three years of his life in air, Which.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy? Just crazy? Shout out no free, shout out gushers man, Hell, yeah, you know what. Yeah, got my hands on some red gushers yesterday. I kind of saw him. I kind of saw him. I gave him a pack. That's actually I think that's probably why she ended up throwing up. But I was like, hey, rude, this is one of the dead's favorite snacks. Back in the day, we got you some gushers, go ahead, try you out some of those so shout out, uh, shout out gushers, shout out no free shutdow.

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Speaker 3: Would you get your hands some gushers at this wedding were they so just on.

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Speaker 4: The plane's nats on the plane and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah what a plane?

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Speaker 4: What everyone at flyhouse? You flyhouse?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: The only way to make it like we had the stream on Saturday night we had we were having We don't have a childcare, so we had to take the kids with us. If you're flying in from Nashville to Saint Louis, it was gonna be that's an hour away from uh where the wedding would be. The flights didn't work on flying out the morning of without like a without like a connecting flight, and it's like you got to take both kids with you for and we needed to get back for the Dermok Kennedy concert that we had booked forever trying to go to London in the summer. We just couldn't make it happen. She's actually going to London this week with Rue on a mother daughter trip. They're going for like five days in London. They leave. We're recording on Monday, they leave tonight, but we were going to go to London and see Dermock Kennedy in London, And since we couldn't make that work, I'm looking on my phone to see if he comes through Nashville. All just so happen as he was coming to the Rhyman, you know, at that point in the summer, he's coming to Ryman in October. I got those tickets. Wedding thing happened. Didn't want to break my wife's heart by being like, we can't go to Dermot Kennedy because I was like, we will go to Dermot Kennedy if we don't go to London, because I was like trying not to go to London for seventy two hours. I'm like, sweet, I listen, that.

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Speaker 3: Is crazy to go somewhere for seventy two hours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I know it would be fun. I know, just the two of us, YadA YadA, But like, come on, we can, we can, we can do something closer so that way we get more time at said place. Right then spending half the time in the air, that's sixteen hours in the air. So then when I was in that kind of pickle, just had to make it happen Flywers. I hit up Clump. I was like, hey, can you see what can I get a couple of quotes for like just a day trip in and out because you know, go to the wedding. I'm pump for my dad, but there's you know, Willie Boy's going through his own journey with this process and everything else. I want to get back so I can still go to the concert. Couldn't leave that night of because we had the stream Tennessee, Alabama, so kind of caught in a pickle problem solved shout shut out house. That is how nice.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

00:24:07
Speaker 4: It was shaky because it was very windy yesterday. We were on a turboprop is that what it's called turbo? A beachcraft? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So it was shaky. It was dicey, buddy. When I Charle was down going down like a web MD wormhole, like she was looking up these pilots the experience, and I'm like, pilots, but it's easy these pilots have. But just going down the GBT, I'm with you, going down that snake cole of like what's the risk? And the thirty mile an hour winds because there were gusts. Yesterday it was raining and gusts were happening in Nashville. A lot of wind and gusts in Missouri where we were going. She's like, do you feel confident. I was like, yeah, I feel confident. We took a we took a small little plane from here to Bend. Her name snow and everything. It was snow and everything else.

00:24:58
Speaker 3: Dude that said, I might have been the same time of year when I came to see you in Missouri a few years back, and I was on that flight.

00:25:06
Speaker 4: And then there's that little airport. They can't you can't. You have to take a small plane to.

00:25:11
Speaker 3: A small plane. And the dude on the way back, well, I'm getting thrown over there, but I'm the only guy on the plane. I'm like, this is exactly when people die. Yeah, this is on one hundred percent when people go down. Yeah, no bags, just like I gotta get back to Nashville because I'm still playing football at the time. And the dude looks back and gives me the thumbs up. I'm like, I guess we're straight.

00:25:28
Speaker 4: And you look out the window and it is moving like as we're landing in Missouri, like it's moving and going a little sideways where I'm staying poised. But internally I'm like, all right, because my Charles over there breathing like all this stuff. She's like, we're taking our entire family and we're gonna be on a small plane. She's getting super nervous. I'm like, we got only a couple option, sweetheart, Like, uh, we're either on the plane and we all go. You can stay home. I truly doesn't bother me, and I can just go by myself. I know you're probably thing in your head, well what if you die and then we're all because I'm thinking we'll all go down as a family. At least we all go down to.

00:26:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say that might be kind of a wind, right or when these kids are pretty young, that's really sad, but like.

00:26:10
Speaker 4: Both parents, Yeah, yeah, well, don't.

00:26:12
Speaker 3: We all just take the take the drink together, you know, take the coolie together, and just fucking get out of here.

00:26:17
Speaker 4: You know, or we cancel it and we gotta spend you know, ten twelve hours in a car and we're gonna have to drive to the wedding and we're missing Dermak Kennedy on the way home. And that was the deciding factor. I didn't have to go as willing to risk death. I didn't have to go there. I didn't have to lay out those options. Fortunately, it's like we got connected. I'm breaking stuff down. I'm like, hey, I'm telling you we're gonna be all right. But even right when we took off from Nashville because it was raining, it was starting to rain pretty good, and the wind was going right when we took off, and the wheels like got like right off the ground that spot where was just about to lift you like like felt the jerk sideway. Oh no, Charles got Scotty attached her and she her eyes are just closed and she's just breathing. We're just going we.

00:27:00
Speaker 3: It's so funny, idea we dude. When Willow and I took off, we flew delta. When we took off to go to Detroit, I had the thing down. Everybody had their like shades down or whatever, the window shades, and we're taking off and will was like, are we gonna leave it? I'm like, we're like thirty minutes into the flapping, honey, we're in there. She goes, oh, right back from the iPad. I was like all right, hell yeah.

00:27:22
Speaker 4: Does child get scared flying, No, she just gets it's the whole family, dynamic thing. She just she'll get in her head about the family and then the small plane, and then she sees the two years. She's like, they've only been you know, this pilot graduated in twenty twenty three, this ungraduated in twenty twenty one.

00:27:40
Speaker 7: This is our very first They sent all this stuff. Will text me in the morning and I just start feeling like shit instantly, like my morning was ruined because I'm worried for him, knowing that they're worried because it's a smaller plane. And then the guy texted he's like, it might be a little bumpy when they take off. All I'm thinking, as your wife's sitting there closing her eyes.

00:27:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because it's her. It's like their first flight, and it's like, you know, on the small plane and everything else. I'm like, we're gonnay, it's gonna be easy. Before fucking it's like Jurassic parking. When you get done it kind of dope, huh oh.

00:28:10
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's like a piece of you that's like kind of to survive something easy. Just now it is wild. You wanna fly out to Brad's wedding.

00:28:18
Speaker 4: No, no, we're going. We fly out the early flight on Saturday morning.

00:28:23
Speaker 3: Oh nice, so you can get a full twenty four hours there, Yeah we can.

00:28:27
Speaker 4: We can. Uh, we can spend some time there.

00:28:29
Speaker 3: That'd be nice. It's just you and Drel going. Yeah, so Charles's doing today, we're filming on Monday. She's flying out to London, spending five days there. So she gets back Friday, Friday, and then she's gonna get on a plane Saturday.

00:28:40
Speaker 4: Yep.

00:28:41
Speaker 3: That's rock star ship. Yeah, that is rock star ship.

00:28:44
Speaker 4: And positive too about it being in Spock, because I know a bitched a lot about this wedding in New York and everything else. It is at a sleepy hollow.

00:28:51
Speaker 3: Sleepy hall. I said, Salem, you're dude. That does gast me up for you. You gotta do something fun and spooky, I know. I mean you just gotta walk around. Yeah yeah, sleepy hollow where sleepy hollows horsemen.

00:29:03
Speaker 1: That's great.

00:29:03
Speaker 4: You got to take a lot of send me some photos. I got you, yeah, I got you.

00:29:07
Speaker 3: Just that to some spooked over stup. Look, there's some tear talk, dude. This is from tom at tom Rynette High start tear talk. If the states of Michigan and Nebraska went to war with each other, who would win?

00:29:19
Speaker 4: And why if the states of Michigan Nebraska went to war? Yeah, I don't know what's the pop there. I would think I would lean heavy Nebraska, just the blue collar, the gurden spit, the farmers out there.

00:29:32
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go uh easy dub Michigan. Detroit, Yeah, Detroit, Flint, like and you talk about blue collar cats like this go up to the up like those people are survivors up there, like that's basically Canada arms race. Yeah.

00:29:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some pockets.

00:29:56
Speaker 3: Like and also is this is this a neutral site, like everyone just meets up in like Minnesota and we go ches or do we have to like go to Nebraska? Is in an away game in away war? Because if that's the case.

00:30:07
Speaker 4: Two, yeah, you bring up those cities like we're we're just we're insanely outnumbered.

00:30:11
Speaker 3: Insanely because I have to look at the population, I'm thinking you're fucking dead.

00:30:15
Speaker 4: Detroit done.

00:30:17
Speaker 3: And also like we to Nebraska, it might have to be like revolutionary war style where it's like everyone you're going to see each other fifteen miles away. We might as well just line them up, get some muskets in our hand, and get a little drummer boy and get going after.

00:30:30
Speaker 4: Some gorilla tactics going on. You come to Nebraska to trench war. Yeah, warfare, you have to win a different way.

00:30:42
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to await. So you you're thinking Nebraska still no miss okay? Uh Andrew at a underscore Hilliard eleven. I want to hear the boys thoughts on things you kind of like about a sick day, staying home from school, watching the prices right, or things of that nature. Let's have a hell the Monday Boys hashtag tear talk. Yeah.

00:31:04
Speaker 8: I was never allowed to stay home from school. I'd be going to school with diarrhea if I had strap throat.

00:31:10
Speaker 6: I'm at school.

00:31:10
Speaker 8: I was just I was a kid getting every other kid sick.

00:31:15
Speaker 4: I feel that too, bro. My mom wouldn't anytime I go and then I'd be sick and I go to the nurse or whatever and she's like, gotta call your mom. My mom comes in, she's almost pissed off it. Oh yeah, cause she's like, you just worked the system to go home, And I'm thinking I feel sick and she's like, you're going to school or if it's bad and they gotta take me because I have a fever. My mom would be tight going home, my mom, and you ain't playing your game boy? Yeah, I'd be trying to I gotta go take a ship. I'm sitting on the toilet trying to play the game boy, trying to play some Pokemon. Gotta catch them all. Oh, got to catch them.

00:31:43
Speaker 8: My mom and dad would be like pissed if I like you, you're waiting until this weekend to go to the doctor.

00:31:50
Speaker 3: Dude.

00:31:51
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:31:51
Speaker 3: The parents, if they don't believe that you're sick, they put you in hell. You're no no TV, no nothing, and it's the Hey, if you're really sick, you should really rest. Just go in your room and lay there.

00:32:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, some parents. I got some buddies now that they'd be it'd be like sniffles and they're fucking staying home anytime out here. Oh Chuck isn't here today. I just have one with him. I roll like that dad, dude ain't sick. Oh he's kid home too. The kid was our boy too, that like lived with Chuck. But it's like we were all just friends like they weren't brothers nothing. He just he was just living with Chuck at the time, and they'd be like both of them were sick. It's like they're fucking at home right now playing two K basketball Fontera.

00:32:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is uh yeah. You know everyone had those friends that when they weren't there, You're like, I know, this motherfucker's having best day.

00:32:41
Speaker 4: Kid feels. I gave him that nick. I gave him that nickname. In middle school, JJ Kidd, he loved JJ Kidd. He'd wear like wristbands around his uh calf with shorts. I loved him. I loved him.

00:32:54
Speaker 3: Hey, this might not be I hated missing school. Was never good in school, but hated so boring. Buddy, it's boring and like all your friends are there. So when I see with these kids, it'd be more like high school. Like these kids, you'll be like, I'm skipping class.

00:33:09
Speaker 4: I'm going.

00:33:09
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm thinking, bro, I want to go to class. Cute girls in there, My boys are in this class. Like I want to be around. I want to be around.

00:33:17
Speaker 4: I always want to get the I always wanted to get the ninety seven percent, ninety eight percent attendance rate, go on the field trip at the end of the year, get an award.

00:33:24
Speaker 6: We never had that, never had that shit. I would have been in there every year.

00:33:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, every year with the sniffles.

00:33:31
Speaker 9: We had a We had a girl in our high school graduation. She was also our valedictorian, Laney Anderson.

00:33:36
Speaker 3: Shout out, Laney.

00:33:38
Speaker 9: Perfect attendance all the way K through twelve, No way K through twelve. It was the first time in our school's history, the.

00:33:46
Speaker 4: First time in American history.

00:33:47
Speaker 9: But truly, they have this whole plaque and everything. There's like a doctor's appointments that you could like miss like a class and it still counted, you know what I mean of a full day. But she made it past like five periods at least every single day, which is crazy.

00:34:04
Speaker 4: That tip of the cap to her tip of the.

00:34:06
Speaker 3: Cap, yeah, tip of the cap, tip of the cap.

00:34:10
Speaker 4: Yeah. The all sick this thing.

00:34:13
Speaker 6: How are you going to be if? How are you gonna be if?

00:34:16
Speaker 8: When Rue and Scotti here come up to you think, Dad, I don't feel good, like my stomach hurts.

00:34:21
Speaker 4: Oh, they'll go to school. Rude didn't have the fever symptoms, but Rue had hand mouthed foot and her ass was at school. It's more like checking with the teachers and everything else. There is there is a thing too, like you check with the teachers, and there's a level of they're not contagious if they don't have a fever and they don't have like sores in their mouth, they just kind of have the the reaction of it. Scotty had the fever and everything else. Rude just kind of had had like the dots and stuff on her foot and everything else, but they were like already scabbed and that's like a sign that she's not contagious. So it's like we checked with the teachers. But it was also one of those things like I saw charge, I was like, well, she needs a she needs to go to school. She's feeling fine. I'm like, ah, wait you but this it kind of looks weird. It kind of looks like a bit of a deal. And she's like put choos on and everything else. And that's where I'm like, Okay, we're on the same page. I just need more of a push because I'm like this seems like it could be a deal. And once I drive and drop her off, I'm like asking the teachers and everything else, and everything was all solid. But they'll go to they'll yeah, they'll they'll go to school. It's just it's you know, how you're going to show up every day like this is this is a discipline and a principle that you embody and you have to establish when they're little, because I know that's how That's how my parents were of me, Like there wasn't a there was no getting out of you know, trying to be sick or anything else. There were times where we're absolutely dog sick and you just can't go to school. But yeah, as long as as long as they're not like running a fever and everything else, Like if you're feeling bad, it's like okay, if you got like a little cold, like to me, you're going to school.

00:35:50
Speaker 3: Well, we got to be in the hundreds before that conversation takes place of like do they miss school? Yeah yeah yeah yeah, big.

00:35:58
Speaker 9: Time insane by My mom would do anything she could to give me to school of like I had to be actively vomiting or have like a one on one fever so.

00:36:09
Speaker 3: Bro one time, guys. When I was younger, I probably nine or something like that, I did not want to go to school one day and I tried to play sick, didn't have the fever. Heard about the pennything under the tongue. Tried that didn't work.

00:36:23
Speaker 4: That night.

00:36:23
Speaker 3: I took it one of those little green like army soldiers with the little musket and had like a little point to it, and I kept putting into my nose and tickling in the back of my nose and sneezed, and I kept sneezing and sneezing and sneezing to where my mom came in, like let's just call it. An hour later and she's like, hey, you're not going to school tomorrow, Like it sounds like you're really having a hard I was like having a really tough time. Didn't sneeze the rest of the night because I went right to sleep right after that. They had to know, yeah, bro, they had to know I was lying. Yeah, I got that. I had that thing like touching my brain. At some point my eyes were like welting up. Well, I'm like I gotta get out. I had no idea why I wanted to get out school. Yeah, exactly.

00:37:04
Speaker 4: That was the O g one.

00:37:05
Speaker 3: When they take a hard right turn, I feel like it.

00:37:07
Speaker 4: Sneeze is so easy to bake.

00:37:09
Speaker 1: I just love that. You're like, no, we're getting the real.

00:37:12
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like water pouring out of my eyes and it was just like one side to my right side of my face was just like all red. And it's like totally fine.

00:37:19
Speaker 4: I had to put myself in a situation where it's like I couldn't. I needed somebody else to be my my alibi. And so after dinner one night, and like, I'm gonna take a shower. Whyat was? You know, White's like six years younger than me, but he's young enough to where he shower. And it's like, all right, you guys, you help White shower everything else. And I house a bunch of apple sauce in my mouth and I kind of hold it to where we're showering, and I just pretend to throw up all over the shower so that way White could leave the shower and be like, oh, yeah, will was will was thrown up? And I can kind of milk it a little bit like those were.

00:37:50
Speaker 3: And it goes in the drain too, which is genius.

00:37:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, to where she can't check it. All she has to do is trust White, and she's kind of going off my body language. Why it's young enough, he doesn't.

00:38:00
Speaker 3: True? Yeah, that is elite, elite.

00:38:07
Speaker 4: Do we have more to your talk?

00:38:08
Speaker 9: Shrem We do, but just because of time, we're thinking we may kick it to Chad Powers.

00:38:14
Speaker 3: Okay, all right's he get to Chad Powers real quick?

00:38:17
Speaker 1: Oh?

00:38:18
Speaker 3: Chad Powers. Eight years after flushing his promising college football career down the toilet, hotshot quarterback Russ Holliday tries to resurrect his dreams by disguising himself as Chad Power. Is a talented audball who walks on is struggling South Carol, South Georgia Catfish Bay Catfish, South Georgia Catfish. Based on Eli Manning's Eli's Places segment from ESPN and Omaha Productions, this comedy event will take viewers by surprise with a comeback story that everyone can relate to. Chad Powers is now streaming with new episodes Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. For bonus subscriber's terms apply. Listen. Have we have you seen the late latest episode?

00:39:00
Speaker 6: I have not?

00:39:00
Speaker 4: Okay, I am I am fired up though that like we were streaming too, and you saw a couple of comments in the life chat being like, Yo, Chad Powers is actually really good. Left. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's it's tough to oversell it, but we genuinely feel like this is a good show.

00:39:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, this show is genuinely good. So after they played Tennessee, they beat Tennessee. The last episode that came out was the Spooky They go to Spirit Halloween. He loses all the stuff, they have to go chat. Russ Holladay gets a gun and they end up finding all the stuff on the floor. The getting back to the hotel where he sees the girl. What's the girl's name again, Ricky Ricky don't know why I always forget that. Ricky Ricky and Russ Holliday, not Chad Power, see each other at the elevator and Ricky's like, oh, I know who you are, blah blah blah. They go back and forth where you see like one of his little lingering at the elevator for a minute and she's coming up to do bed checks. He runs up. They end up getting saved. That next day they beat the Tennessee Volunteers. So this next episode that takes place, they are five and zero. They're ranked like top ten in the Country or something like that. And College Game Day is trying to do a like interview that featured Peace on Chad Powers to where Chad's like, you know, having a really hard time. He's throwing up during it. It's it's a it's a whole deal deal one of the top quotes.

00:40:21
Speaker 4: Remember we said like the Wolves was a great one.

00:40:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, They're like, who's like really influenced you? And he just looks he's like Benjamin Franklin.

00:40:31
Speaker 4: So they talk him into it.

00:40:33
Speaker 3: You see Ricky starting to lin Chad Powers a little bit. But does Ricky like Chad Powers if she knows he's Russ Holiday. It's a whole back and forth.

00:40:40
Speaker 6: Man.

00:40:40
Speaker 3: They have a nice little moment while they're watching film together. Great show, well done show. Chad Powers. Russ Holiday decides to himself in this show, which we don't see any further down at that the only reason why bad things happened to Russ Holliday is because he's Russ Holliday. If he's always Chad Powers from here on out, it seems like only good things happen at Chad Powers. So he's essentially saying, I'm no longer Russ Holiday. Chad Powers is who I am. He's even looking up like how to get plastic surgery to change his face looks like that forever. And so now he's having this identity crisis turmoil, bipolar type multi personality thing that's taking place back and forth.

00:41:16
Speaker 4: Oh, I love that.

00:41:17
Speaker 3: So it's gonna it's a it's fun.

00:41:19
Speaker 7: There is a crazy wrinkle in this episode.

00:41:21
Speaker 4: We won't spoil it for yeah, don't don't spoil. Don't spoil. Even even Taylor talking about that right there. I'm not I'm not saying that's a spoiler, but I'm just thinking in my head, like the riders, what a platform and stage for these riders to like make something out of something that again we'll say again people felt like it was like beating a dead horse with the Chad powers he like manning stuff and it's like, what is this? What is this Hulu show? And it's honestly it's a good show.

00:41:46
Speaker 3: Delete that highlight thing so Will doesn't see Okay, yes, yeah, delete that because body, I forgot about that.

00:41:55
Speaker 4: Here's the same holiday takes somebody down.

00:41:57
Speaker 3: I'll say that takes down a that's almost say.

00:42:05
Speaker 4: Here's the segment that we do have from the show It's called a Fresh Set of Downs segment where we spot where we spotlight one transfer portal player current or past who wasn't playing ballwell or was buried on the depth chart and all they needed was a fresh set of downs in order to spark their redemption story and turn their college careers around. This week's Fresh Set of Downs segment Player of the Week is Cade McConnell, Vanderbilt offensive lineman, the left guard of the show. Friend of the Show franchise, was the number ten player in Oklahoma valedictorian in high school, went to Minnesota, originally transferred from Minnesota to Vandy, and he's one of the best offensive guards in the country. We have a little clip that we can show you where he is body bagging LSU Tigers. Kate McConnell was also summer intern for busting with the boys.

00:42:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, summer intern of busts with the boys, probably, and it's your first time seeing them. Mitch was beneath him, Internship valedictorian, the whole thing. No disrespect all of us, but also disrespect all he's.

00:43:07
Speaker 4: Kate is kind of the one who helped catapult the entire internship program Operation YEA because he was DM and US, but he was demon Sharham to where Sherm kind of had like, Hey, I see that there's this there's this old lineman at Vanderbilt. He's been talking about me about an internship, like he needs a certain credit or something like that could be fun because he plays college football. He's at Vanderbilt. They had a good year last year. They could be tough this year. Dude seems like he would love to be for the brand. Says he'll do whatever it takes, whatever whatever he can do for the brand. We hire guys like in operations, in production and social like specific people like in those lanes, and we were kind of just adding like, yeah, we were gonna do kid the whole time. He was kind of gonna just be our football guy who joined the boys. But he came in and he was like the most surprising. We hired a few people from that litter, but he was like a stud. Yeah, like some you just wouldn't expect, like, okay, offensive lineman he's doing for credit. He'll be fun, banter, he'll be good around the vibes, he'll be good around the shop. But he's cutting clips. He's doing everything. Yo, He's you're gonna be special.

00:44:09
Speaker 3: No job, too big, no drop too small. Guys on scholarship. He's at Vandy. They're a hot team. He's getting an al money and he comes in here and acts like he's doing janitorial things. He's cutting clips, he's doing literally whatever it takes to be.

00:44:21
Speaker 4: One of the boys.

00:44:22
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. Can we break down this play for a saying? Can go go to the beginning of this play. This is a special play by Kate mccaudley. You see, they got little, so they're like in this like three four look right now, So they're fanning out the left tackle and left guard. Kate McConnell's playing left guard. They're fanning out. So these two guys are man the end who's a four eye. He's going to go out towards the tackle, basically allowing kid to go back in. But Cad played a little bit the way he body bags this four eye technique. Go ahead, let him bank him bank And then right here, that's amazing. You see the will linebacker he's dropped in the coverage, so you know he just haves that you're left tackle. That's a win for him on that side. He could essentially be done and just kind of hold space. The fact that he's going in to handle the center after that too, because you know a lot of times when one guy drops another way, there could be blitzers coming the opposite way, so you have to bang a lot of guys back. This is heady football.

00:45:13
Speaker 4: This is valid.

00:45:14
Speaker 3: Victorian football type shit right here. That gets me juiced up because he's violent. The thing that fires me up is his feet are incredible here. He's got extension on his punch. He's violent with his punch without getting over his toes, and he's banging back. And when you're banging back, you're not like taking over the block, so you can throw that shoulder into it. Football porn. That's football porn. Where he gets six to midnight. That's you talking about forty nine from Minnesota last week. And I know the situation, but like you brought that up on a stream where you're like, that's football porn.

00:45:46
Speaker 4: You're definitely intentionally going out of your way right there to bring up forty nine. There's no you didn't have to do it.

00:45:51
Speaker 6: Mighty Well talks about Luke.

00:45:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is I don't know where's yourself? That's not true.

00:45:56
Speaker 3: But go ahead.

00:45:56
Speaker 4: I don't know where he's ranked on the NFL or anything else, because I know he's junior, he's got another year and all that. But if there are scouts that are watching tape, whether they're watching Diego or whatever cats they're watching at Vanderbilt or on the defensive side for LSU, and they're watching this game, that right, there is a clip to where it's like, say, he's not in the top ten whatever it is. That's one where it's like, who is this kid? Right? And his name starts to get in some conversation, and if he puts some consistency behind that, like this is a clip you will see on draft night, on draft day whenever he does get picked in to look at him here as a junior against LSU's defense.

00:46:33
Speaker 6: Yes, is I may be.

00:46:37
Speaker 8: Wrong here, but I feel like I've heard some Joe Moore talks about Vandy's offensive line.

00:46:41
Speaker 3: Could be they're playing playing credible, man, they're playing amazing.

00:46:45
Speaker 4: I don't know if the stats are coming out of the LSU game, but before the LSU game, they were averaging over six yards per rush, which was number one in the country. Unbelievable.

00:46:52
Speaker 7: What's crazy about Vandy z oh line and Caid in general. Is he switchessides each like every other player.

00:46:57
Speaker 4: Which is he doesn't play just right guard or left guard.

00:46:59
Speaker 7: They switch all the time. So within a one series he could take three four snaps at left guard, three four snaps of right guard.

00:47:06
Speaker 4: Dude, that's insane. That is that is. I kind of hate that he had another You hate that, but I just love how it's like he's just thinking, just fucking have me in the game.

00:47:17
Speaker 7: Like they move the tackle too, they bring the guard and the tackle, so like that, he sticks with the one guy. They just switch each time. It's the way Vandy runs their offense.

00:47:26
Speaker 3: That's crazy what they need to do with Katy mcconelly's a transfer to Michian next year if he's got one more year.

00:47:31
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, we're watching Vandy LSU and my dad was going.

00:47:35
Speaker 4: Hey, that's the girl's guide, that's Cad.

00:47:36
Speaker 9: That's seventy That sprung u diego for that touchdown run they had up the left sideline. Yeah, he had a nasty block.

00:47:45
Speaker 4: On that one too. He was head hunt.

00:47:47
Speaker 3: It was flowing right there.

00:47:48
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's another clip of him going viral too when he pulled from right guard and he came down and just completely ran someone.

00:47:55
Speaker 3: Overs are getting some love about this clip. Two years ago, when LSU played at Vandy, there was an l s U offensive lineman who essentially did the same thing to Vanity Defense. And it's cool to see that script flipped. And it's even cool that's our guy that did it.

00:48:10
Speaker 4: And I hope too that this photo is what's kind of sitting here while we talk about them, because just look at demon just a specimen specimen next the caid A couple of dogs out there.

00:48:22
Speaker 6: That just makes you realize, how is.

00:48:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy that those are to the same things. Those are both humans, right, Like those are both mammals or whatever whatever we are, Like, that's crazy.

00:48:36
Speaker 4: They're both of the human species, both males.

00:48:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that those are both Like if this is a litter of dogs, like that one's related to that one, like in some one way, shape or form, Like those things are related right there. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

00:48:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, they wan of the less little extra you know what, and both It's so funny you brought up the dog litter thing because if they were both.

00:49:01
Speaker 3: Looking like little cat blocked on those forward letters at the at the beginning. Huh shirm, that was your joke. SHRMP told me that joke before anybody who gets mad at me for that joke. Yeah yeah, well yeah one, yeah, one's got more sapient than the other.

00:49:13
Speaker 4: The dog litter analogy that you use, they would both if they were shopping for dogs, Cad would be picking the one that looked like Cad and Jared would for sure be picking the one that looked like Jared. He's like, let me give that one a chance. Let me take this one home. Yeah, he's cute here. You just need some cuddling.

00:49:30
Speaker 8: He can jump in, wants like like a big fucking dog, Jared, I'll take the little.

00:49:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, little scamper, a little scamper over here.

00:49:40
Speaker 6: You know.

00:49:40
Speaker 4: Demon swinging it in the air right now, just thinking he's got it. What he's got a German shepherd, doesn't he?

00:49:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, German shepherd. He's got miss miss Pickles, what's his Uh, he's.

00:49:49
Speaker 4: Got a couple of bigger dogs. Miss huskis shout up, Miss biscuits Husky.

00:49:58
Speaker 10: Uh?

00:49:58
Speaker 4: Did we want to get into Drew Brees. He'll be in on with this any second. Do we have anything else we want to hit in the intro any pet peeves, any anything.

00:50:07
Speaker 6: Yeah, shout out no free shout out this weather it finally broke. It's here.

00:50:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, I got a pet peeve. On the flight home, there was a family. There's a little kid behind me that was just kicking my chair the whole time. All good, Like, I know what it's like to have children on a flight, and that to me, it's like, listen, this it's an hour. It's an hour flight. I can handle this little massage chair in the back just kicking me back and forth. That's no problem. But I look back for a second. The mom she's just staring at her phone while this kid's doing that. And that's why I'm thinking to myself, Honey, we got to teach these kids things. It's not the kid's fault that he's taking the thing, because he doesn't know he's doing the wrong thing.

00:50:43
Speaker 4: Right now.

00:50:44
Speaker 3: The dad notices after.

00:50:46
Speaker 4: He is I think he's Indian.

00:50:49
Speaker 3: He was something. He was something. He had a hard, hard accent on it. And we golded off the flight and he goes, I'm not gonna do the accent. I'm not gonna do the accent. He looks at me and he goes, my kid, my kid was kicking in the back of your chair. And I was like, oh, yeah, it's no bed there. He goes, I'm not sorry, and I was like, you're you're not sorry, and he goes, I'm not sorry. And I was like, I assume there's a language barrier going on here. That's a crazy thing to say. But by pepieve was that mom on her phone.

00:51:19
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he probably was sorry.

00:51:22
Speaker 4: He probably was. He probably had to be. I had to be.

00:51:27
Speaker 3: He said, I'm not sorry. I'm thinking you're just you're accidentally just putting a not in there. He was more he was more of a stone face killer. Yeah, he's more of a stone face.

00:51:36
Speaker 6: He definitely was not sorry. He was just trying to be a dick.

00:51:39
Speaker 3: Why But I didn't say nothing. I was just chilling.

00:51:41
Speaker 10: Man.

00:51:42
Speaker 6: I think I think it's because, like you did you like turn around?

00:51:45
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I gave it. I was sitting there and I had the little gap right here and I'm looking I'm talking to I'm talking to Will, and I kind of gave like a peak, like I went like a little peak Ski, and I just see the mom chinned up doing our thing, and I thought that's kind of crazy.

00:51:58
Speaker 8: I feel like when you learn the English language, you know, like not that's like in Borat, like you learn what there you go?

00:52:09
Speaker 4: Boy?

00:52:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, if anything, the word not was a mainstay for him.

00:52:13
Speaker 6: What you learned?

00:52:14
Speaker 4: What not?

00:52:15
Speaker 10: Me?

00:52:15
Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe funck that guy?

00:52:16
Speaker 4: Dude, No, I'm with you.

00:52:20
Speaker 3: You know what I did? Didn't say ship got off the plane? Got off the plane? Yeah? What may I do? Beat up some Indian dude? Any who's getting uh?

00:52:33
Speaker 4: Drew Brees, Drew Brees, Drew Brees and Zach Bond. All right, gentlemen. As always, these interviews are brought to you by bud Light. Bud Light has always brewed four simple ingredients for a clean, crisp taste, and bud Light is the official beer sponsor of the NFL, the NFL Draft Tighten You with bud Light partner George Kittle, the UFC, and Shane Gillis's twenty twenty five tour. Partners also include Peyton Manning, Baker Mayfield, Emmitt Smith, Post Malone, Dustin Pourier, Shane Gillis and the Boys stock up now on bud Light and had the www. Dot bud Light Dot com slash locator to find a store near you. Enjoy Drew Brees and Zach Thohn.

00:53:09
Speaker 3: You got me, Yeah, we got you?

00:53:11
Speaker 1: Got me? All right?

00:53:12
Speaker 4: What's going on, dude?

00:53:14
Speaker 3: I'm looking over this and I obviously am very familiar with your career. But super Bowl Champion, super Bowl forty four, thirteen time pro bowler, two thousand and four, NFL ap Player, Comeby, Player of the Year two thousand and six, NFL Walter Payton Mann of the Year two thousand and eight, ap off, it's a Player of the Year, twenty eleven, NFL ap off. It's a player of the year, like Buddy.

00:53:32
Speaker 4: I mean, he missed one. What I miss former teammate of Will Compton.

00:53:38
Speaker 3: So of all those accolades, talk to me about what Will Compton did for you in your career.

00:53:45
Speaker 1: You know, just just lead by example, you know, I mean, if there, I always always thought I was the first guy in last one to leave. But then this guy comes to town and just tries to show me up.

00:53:54
Speaker 4: Stop Drew him. That's him. That's us guys together making me look bad. Yeah, devastating, devastating.

00:54:05
Speaker 3: Where should we start. Let's save a lot of ground to cover. Let's start at the beginning. Okay, let's start at the beginning. Talk to me about growing up getting no offers out of high school and ended up a boiler maker. Talked about that process.

00:54:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I say this, Look, man, you grew up in the state of Texas. Obviously, football is away of life.

00:54:27
Speaker 4: Uh.

00:54:27
Speaker 1: You know, for a lot of a lot of small towns. You know, everything shuts down for Friday night lights. You know, I definitely grew up in that atmosphere. My grandfather was a long time high school football coach down at Gregory Portland High School, Portland, Texas, outside of Corpus Christie for thirty eight years. So you know, as a kid, we would spend our summers down there. Basically, me and my brother were water boys for his football teams. So as a kid, man, I love sports. I mean I was all ball, right, just a gym rat, football, basketball, baseball, Look, you know, a track, cross country, tennis, soccer, like you name it, just any stick and ball. And honestly, going into high school, I was three sport athletes. So and if you asked me to put it in order of which sports were my favorite, and maybe that I was kind of best at, it was baseball, then basketball, and then football.

00:55:22
Speaker 4: So you can play on the basketball court.

00:55:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

00:55:26
Speaker 4: I was.

00:55:27
Speaker 1: I would play the point, but there was a better point guard, so I played the two. I was a streating guard, but a baseball like I was the three hole hitter through right, battag left, played short, but there was a better short stop, so I played third. There's a theme here, you know, better guys. So I just shifted positions, you know. But yeah, batted three hole. Modeled my swing after King Griffey junior. Ted Williams was my favorite player of all time, the splendid splinter. So yeah, really it was like baseball was my trajectory. That's where I really thought I would end up, you know, hopefully having a chance to play the next level, either college or get drafted. So even throughout high school, like I'm playing baseball, I'm playing basketball, and yeah I'm playing football, but you know, hey, I was starting B team quarterback on the freshman team and now I'm the backup on JV and I don't think I'm ever going to play. And there was actually a moment my sophomore year midway through training camp, like hot Texas heat, brutal, my mom picks me up from practice and she can tell like, I'm down with the dumps. We pull into the garage and she's like, what's wrong. I'm like, Mom, I think I'm gonna quit football. Like, I just don't think this is my path. I feel like I'm kind of wasting my time. Like I'm playing behind this guy who's a phenom, you know, and he's going to be the heir apparent starter on varsity. So I'm just going to ride the bencher for the next couple of years. Why wouldn't I just focus on baseball if that's where I really think my path is. And she's like, I mean, you know, do you do?

00:56:49
Speaker 10: You do?

00:56:50
Speaker 1: You love it? And I'm like, yeah, look, I love I love the competition. I love having the ball in my hands. I mean I love the quarterback you know, position, everything that comes along with it. Love being out there with my boys. But I just don't think I'm ever going to get a chance to play. And she's like, you never know when your opportunity will come, so just stick it out. But first off, you made the commitments for this year, Like, so you're locked in. We can reassess at the end of the year. But you never know when your opportunity will come. And so sure enough, a week later, like going into my JV sophomore season, where I was just going to ride the bench, the starter gets hurt in the final scrimmage. He tears his ACL, so man, he's out, and all of a sudden, I'm thrust into the starting job and the rest is kind of history there with football, like it just it just took off. We ended up going ten and zeros at JV. I played, played really well, and then all of a sudden, it was like, okay, you're like you're going to be the guy, Like you're going to be the starter on varsity. And ironically, like this is nineteen ninety five, we go into my junior season of high school football. I went to West Lake High School, Boston, Texas. It's a perennial powerhouse. Yeah, always quarter finals are beyond big school in state of Texas. But we had never won a state championship, Like we'd always gotten really really close, but number won one and like this was a year, like the best team we've ever had and we are rolling through the playoffs and in third round of the playoffs, I end up coming off of a bootleg, get hit, come down my knee buckles, and sure enough I've torn my ACL ACL MCL lateral meniscus. And so like all of a sudden, Now the whole reason I was starting was because this guy in front of me had done that, and I had taken his job. And so now all of a sudden, this happens to me. And this is like December of ninety five, and so or excuse me, it was December of ninety five, yep. And so now all of a sudden, not only did you know that kind of derails our playoff run, but then I missed the basketball season and I missed the baseball season. So and you're a junior, right, that's when you get recruited, right, that's your junior year where and this is what everybody's kind of looking at you and thinking about who they're going to offer and all that stuff. And look, I was not an impressive guy to look at price still, not six foot, one hundred and seventy pounds, right like, nothing, nothing prototype about that. And so then even going into my senior season, you know, I gained about twenty pounds just from working out in the rehab process and all that stuff. To come back, but still six foot one ninety five running a five two eight boys five two eight forty with the big, clunky knee brace. I was not a real impressive guy to look at, you know, the guy that the recruiting coordinators canna go and be like, hey, man, I got a gym for us. You know, Yeah, six ft one ninety he runs up five to eight with a big old knee brace. You're gonna love this kid.

00:59:31
Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you feel like offers and stuff would have been there had you not torn your acl because again you're like you did you go on to winn State Tunnle your senior year?

00:59:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we like, I guess the the accolades were there, right, like we went sixteen and oh we want a state championship and the biggest school in the state of Texas.

00:59:51
Speaker 4: Yes I was.

00:59:51
Speaker 1: I was the five A offensive player of the Year in the state of Texas.

00:59:54
Speaker 4: Yes, right, big, So.

00:59:57
Speaker 1: All that would tell you, okay, man, maybe he's got a little something. Yeah. But again, like I think everybody at times gets pretty enthralled with the measurables, right like the prototype look, and I was certainly not that guy like I was.

01:00:13
Speaker 10: I was.

01:00:13
Speaker 1: I was I was a multi sport athlete, right, so I was. I mean, I think if you just kind of looked at it the way people look at it now, I think that's a really attractive thing now, is that they look at, hey, does this kid guy play other sports? Says you just know how to ball, knows how to ball, loves competition, that sort of thing. I think I checked all the boxes there, but certainly the measurables weren't weren't there, And so when it came down to it, I ended up getting recruited by two schools. It was Purdue in Kentucky, and the situations there were that both of them had new coaching staffs. So with Kentucky how Mummy, I don't know if you remember this, how Mummy. He was kind of part of that air raid offense and that was really starting to take off, like mid nineties. He came from Valdosta State to Kentucky and the quarterback in Kentucky at that time was Tim Couch. So Tim Couch was my host to on my visit to Kentucky. And basically, like these guys kind of painted the picture for me. First of all, they were like, you can play football and baseball. Here, you're gonna come in. You're gonna back up Tim Couch because nobody's beating this dude out. He's a phenom. Right, he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna play for two more years, so you're gonna red shirt back him up, and then he's gonna leave early for the draft. He'll be the first pick, and then you're gonna start for three years at Kentucky and you're gonna play baseball. I was like, okay, that that actually sounds pretty that sounds deal.

01:01:32
Speaker 11: Yeah, And then I go to Purdue and Purdue had Joe Tiller who just came from Wyoming and they were running the spread offense, and he said that they they were going to recruit me at Wyoming, but they're like, there's no way we're gonna get this kid up to Wyoming. But then when he got to Purdue and it was big ten, you know, maybe a little bit bigger program, I was like, Okay, now we can go after him.

01:01:55
Speaker 1: But he was shocked to hear that. I didn't have any offers really, so it came out of Purdue Kentucky, and I chose Purdue mainly because of the academic reputation, but also playing in the Big Ten. The quarterback prior to us was a guy named Jay Rogers. He's actually the d line coach for the New Orleans Saints right now. He was our quarterback for west Lake High School. He went to Indiana University. So I you and I played with his brothers and so we would like get together on the weekends to watch him play. And I'm watching him play against Michigan and Ohio State and like all the big boys, and at the time, like Big Ten was, I mean, all those schools I think was where everybody aspired to go and play, you know, with her against Yeah, And so I remember seeing that saying, all right, I get I mean you're telling me I get to play against Notre Day, Michigan, Ohiose State, Penn State, Wisconsin every year and get a great education. And I was like, sign me up. That's why I chose Purdue.

01:02:49
Speaker 4: Did that as awesome? What are there were there any other moments, like clearly you were able to that that moment you had you said, what was that with your mom or she was asking you saying you're gonna finish out the rest of the year, you have that moment with your mom, and then your opportunity kind of comes and you're kind of forwarded to the fire on understanding these lessons at a young age, Like, were there any lessons or moments during your time at Purdue that carried you into the NFL as well to where maybe you got tested or maybe it was another moment that you're able to look back on and see that, Hey, I'm glad I stayed true to the process here.

01:03:21
Speaker 10: Yeah.

01:03:21
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean so many similarities, Like you know, high school. I talked about Westlake High School, Like, we moved into that district my freshman year, and ironically it was because my mom, like we lived all over Austin in a bunch of different parts of town. My parents had gotten divorced when we moved to Austin, so it's kind of a tough time early, just as they were kind of trying to find, you know, their rhythm and and but at the end of the day, my mom looked around and said, Okay, what's the best high school that's going to put my kids in the best position to succeed athletically academically. So she chose WESTLEYK High School's basically all right, I'm moving into the district so you can go to school here. And I remember showing up that day one my freshman year of high school and literally they were like, okay, who wants to play quarterback? And like forty hands went up in the air, including mine, and I looked around and I was like, dude, I am never going to touch the field. Right. It was kind of similar to Perdue, Like, yeah, I get recruited, but I get recruited alongside two other quarterbacks, right that were highly touted guys from the Midwest, big time recruits coming to play in the spread offense. Right, Like that was the big Lawrie, We're gonna throw a fifty times a game. And I show up, so there's seven guys there to play quarterback my true freshman year. So once again it's like, oh gosh, you know I'm gonna end up, you know, holding being at tackling dummy here for a few years, right, maybe even get the chance to step on the field. Well, I ended up kind of becoming a backup quarterback to a fifth year senior my true freshman year and played in about seven or eight games, one of those being in a critical moment against Michigan State. Nick Saban was the head coach there, like our guy was not playing, benched him. They put me in. I'm kind of like, you know, the young freshman going to come and start slanging it. I had no idea what I was doing. I threw a ball against tip gets intercepted. They pulled me back out, put the fifthyar senior in. Ironically, we go down and score like two touchdowns and win the game. But but like plenty of moments there where man, you're just you're just questioning whether you belong you know, I think that there's always especially those moments as you kind of tick up levels, you know, from high school to college to the pros, they have those moments of like, man, like a little bit of self doubt, like do I belong here? And it's a bit overwhelming, and it and it and it is where you just have to It's like you got to just trust your training and trust your instincts and trust the process and you know a lot of a lot of self belief, but also just you know, the overcoming of adversity and feeling like if you do things the right way, good things are going to happen. And and then and then you get to the point where you almost man. You embrace, embrace the adversity, you embrace the challenges. Look there there there were some defining moments in in college. I say one of the biggest ones was I ended up winning the starting job my sophomore year. So we open up the year at USC kind of a big, big moment first start in the coliseum against the USC Trojans in nineteen ninety eight. We end up losing that game, but I kind of felt like, okay, man, I'm you know, I can do this. And then we end up playing I think it was Central Florida and Rice. We get wins there, and then all of a sudden, it's kind of like leading up to this big game at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is top ten and this is like dream come true, like going to play at Notre Dame. Ye, I'm a sophomore, like this was one of the whole reasons that I chose to come to Purdue was to be able to play in games like this. And for fifty eight minutes of that game, I play absolutely lights out, like I just like I blacked out and just and we end up like we're beating the top top ten team in the country as little old Perdue coming into Notre Dame. And then unfortunately in the last two minutes, like we're just trying to just ice the game, just get one first down, Notre Dame spurning timeout. So we get to third and ten and Coach kind of kind of like, hey, I'm going to call a pass play. I'm putting this thing in your hands, like let's go get this first time and go win this game. And it was kind of like one of these rollout plays, and I'm throwing the ball over the middle to a guy and I just let the ball sail a little bit hot and it kind of tips off his fingertips and Tony Driver, the free safety, picks it off, runs it back to like the two yard line, they kick a field goal to take the lead, and then we have another now two minute drive to try to go win it, and I throw another pick, So basically two picks in the final two minutes. And dude, when I say, well, first off crew had one at Notre Dame in like thirty years, Okay. And so I'm sitting here looking at all the seniors in the locker room and everybody's like crying, and just you know, like we had fought so stinking hard and I was sitting there going, dude, you are responsible for this pain, right, you know what I mean?

01:07:51
Speaker 3: Like we all have these.

01:07:53
Speaker 1: It's like and then but and then we insult injury. Like we we now ride the bus back to the Purdue. We bust up to South Bend for this game. It's only like two and a half hours away. So I'm riding the bus back to Purdue and I'm literally just staring out at the cornfields you know in Indiana, and I'm just like, all right, this is like you have a choice here, right, Like you can just go in the tank as a result of what just happened. Where you can you know, freaking bow up, stiff upper lip man and show these guys what you're made of.

01:08:26
Speaker 10: Right.

01:08:27
Speaker 1: And so look, a tough week of practice, but it was just like, lock in focus. This has to be your best performance. And then we come out against Minnesota and I think I went thirty one to thirty six for five hundred and twenty two yards and six touchdowns. Oh yeah, every single game record in for new history. That next game, and it was kind of like one of these misty, eerie day like Midwest fall days. But it was just like it all kind of came together and it was one of those I don't know, it was like those one of those proven moments to myself. They're like, you can, you can, you can overcome one of these kind of devastating os that mentally could really mess with.

01:09:01
Speaker 4: You, right, absolutely devastating to come back.

01:09:04
Speaker 1: To that next week and just and absolutely put your best foot forward. And I don't know, I just it proved a lot to myself.

01:09:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, two pigs in those last two drives, You're you're definitely you're trying to the game. Yeah, trying. You're putting that entire game on yourself. Like, fuck, maybe I am who they think.

01:09:18
Speaker 3: I am, right right, Maybe maybe my mom was wrong. I should have just played baseball and you're going way back in all time, Yeah I should I should have quit the whole entire time. Dude, What was like being a sophomore and having that happen at the end of the Notre Dame game? Were there any like seniors? How was the leadership in that building at that time? Were they like come up to you and checking you, putting their hand on your shoulder, But hey, it's going to be all right or was it like leave the kid alone and see what he does. No one's coming to save you vibes.

01:09:45
Speaker 1: No, I would say we had we have pretty good We had good culture on that team, and we had a good group of guys, and honestly, we had we had We had guys that had been kind of beaten down for a while, you know, like Perdue hadn't had a lot of success, you know up to that point, you know, fifteen straight losing seasons or something like that, and just a lot of dysfunction. You know, when Joe Tiller got there, he had cleaned house on a lot of guys. You know, like that was a really tough first you know, spring ball, where he was honestly trying to run some guys out right and just make sure that he kind of kept the right guys. And so everybody who was there like had earned their right to be there, and it was because they were great leaders and we're great you know, they had formed the culture and so man, I did have plenty of guys that put their arm mom and like, hey man, we got you, we believe in you, and obviously that means a lot. But also knew I had to prove it to him.

01:10:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, so just for more context, everybody that already knows Drew Brees, but just gonna say it again. Six foot you know less than two hundred pounds. Around two hundred pounds, You tear your acl. You gotta bum you gotta bum ACL over five seconds in the forty you still get drafted in the second round to the chargers tear the ship out of your shoulder. Can you give us a look inside your mental your mind during that process, because in your career, in your journey, you've had to trust your instincts, You've had to stay true to your beliefs, what you believe in everything else. Can you give us a look inside that moment when you tore your shoulder with the chargers and how close you were to potentially not playing ever again. I think you failed to physical later on as well, Like, give us a look inside of that story of overcoming that adversity.

01:11:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, that was uh at the time, man, that was that was about as devastating as it gets because that was that was truly a moment where I felt like my dream was just being ripped away, Like, uh, that I would that I would never play football again. And look my first five years with the San Diego Chargers, man, there were there were plenty of ups and downs. I came in as a rookie and backed up Doug Flutie for a year.

01:11:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, which was tab Doug flute.

01:12:00
Speaker 1: As a guy to learn fromhim and as a mentor for four years because he ended up being backing me up for three years. Was pivotal for me in my growth development and for my career. But during that stretch where I was the starter, I was benched three times by Marty Schottenheimer for various reasons.

01:12:21
Speaker 4: You know.

01:12:22
Speaker 1: Sometimes it was turning the ball over too much. Sometimes it wasn't getting the job done. Sometimes it was just hey we need to spark. I'm gonna throw Fluti in there. But like, nonetheless, for a young guy who's working so hard to establish himself, you know, as the starter for a team and gain that respect and that belief from my teammates in the organization, man, that's a shot to the ego, right And like, never had I had a moment in my career where I truly lost confidence. And there was definitely a moment or two during that stretch where you would say, like I lost confidence like I was just not sure if I could get the job done right, and yet Man had battled through that, and you know, off season is just dedicating myself to being the very best leader that I could be quarterback, Like looking at my diet, my sleep pat is like I was leaving no stone unturned and finally had kind of reached this point four to five, We're okay, like I am now a good player in this league and I'm clearly the starting quarterback of this team and earned the right to be the franchise quarterback for this organization. And then going into the very last game of the two thousand and five season, which was the end of my contract, so it was like, Okay, I've made it all the way through. I've proven it, and now's the opportunity to get the commitment from the organization long term. You're our guy, despite the fact that they drafted Philip Rivers, you know, two years previous, who is now my backup? Like, Man, I am going to be the guy. And then that very last game against the Denver Broncos, you know, I come out of a you know, a pile of jumping for a fumble and I have this dislocated right throwing shoulder. Literally my arm is stuck like this. It dislocated out the bottom and it was just stuck like that. So I remember walking to the sideline. It's kind of like one of these rainy days, and like, I like, my body's in shot, but I know exactly what it is, and I know the gravity of the situation, you know. And I sat there as I'm walking off the field and I literally thought to myself, this the last time I'm never going to put on a charge of uniform. And then I get to the sideline, I was like, you know, this maybe last time I ever played football game. As the doc is like, you know, lethal weapons, sliding my shoulder back into my socket and even, you know, a couple of days after that, like I go see doctor James Andrews, who was the preeminent you know, or with the people surgeon down at Birmingham, Alabama, and literally he's looking at me like, hey, you have so much swelling in that shoulder. I really don't know the extent of the damage. Like just let me get in there and figure it out and then I'll kind of tell you when it's done. So like literally, as I'm going under for surgery, I still don't know what's going to happen or even the gravity the whole you know, injury. And I end up coming out of the surgery and he's like, well, you know, he goes like, if I if I had to do that surgery one hundred times, I couldn't do as well as I just did it. That was this message to me. So I was like, Okay, that's what I want to hear. Doctor, Like what does that mean? He's like, he's like, look, you have a long road ahead of you. Like it's a minimum eight months before you're even going to ever start to be able to throw again. He's like, I put you back together, but man, this reheab process is going to be a bear and you're going to have to learn how to throw again, right. And there's kind of some non negotiables about the rehab as we go along here. I mean, I was trying to push the envelope as much as I could. But here's something interesting that happened in that during that that that chain of events. So I actually going into that last year, my agent had recommended that I get an insurance policy on my shoulder, I mean, or basically just on my you know, my body, my career, right like, hey, you know, you have the chance to sign a long term contract which should be worth a lot of money if something happens to you this year, she get a like a Woyds of London contract, uh insurance contract just in the event that something happens and you can't play. So there was a moment where I had to make a decision as to whether I was going to collect the insurance policy and never play again, where I was going to attempt to play again and avoid the insurance policy, which.

01:16:15
Speaker 4: I'm sure the insurance policy was probably a pretty hefty amount of.

01:16:19
Speaker 3: Care to share that number at all of what that insurance policy was to show.

01:16:22
Speaker 1: I think it was like five million bucks. Here was five million bucks that I could just take the five million in the walk or or attempt to play again and again. There was no guarantees right that that that I would play again. But but I I was like, you know what ripped that thing up?

01:16:39
Speaker 4: Man?

01:16:39
Speaker 1: Like I just I feel like God's got me, and this is this is even though this is the path that I wouldn't choose, Like this is this is the one I'm on and and and I'm going to be better for it, and I think that's that's that's really the way I look at that, a c L injury with my with my knee in high school. You know, at the time, I thought, Hey, this is that state, and it's the worst thing ever could happen to me. I'm missing, you know, the basketball seat in the baseball seat. I'm not going to get recruited. Like, yes, did it alter my path? Maybe it did, but man, it molded me, strengthened me. It made me stronger in my faith. It did so many things for my path and my direction that you know at times that we leave it up to our own devices, you know, I think that's when, you know, we realized that, you know, God has us right where he wants us, and it's all for a reason. It's all meant to mold us in a lot of different ways. And both those injuries did that for me. And look, I never would have ended up with the New Orleans Saints and had that incredible, incredible experience, incredible run, incredible journey that we had there over the course of fifteen years, and obviously that became about so much more than just football. But I never had the chance to be a part of that if it wasn't for going through those things.

01:17:48
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, how long did that rehab process take? In totality?

01:17:53
Speaker 1: Man, the shoulder was a solid eight months. So, you know, surgery was early January, and literally I wasn't ready until week one of the season, you know, so call it in early September. You know, I went through training camp, but I was on a pitch count, you know, so I was, you know, kind of ramping up twenty throws and then thirty throws and then forty throws, and I mean I can remember my first couple of throws. I'm sitting there throwing a slant and just dirting them, you know. And you know, you can ask Sean Payton. Sean Payton's looking at our quarterback coach who had been with me in San Diego, and was like, hey, are we seeing the best of him right now? And my QB coach would be like, hey, well there's more there, There's more there. Just be patient. And truly it was one of those things where it was like if I threw forty throws in a day, maybe two or three of them were good. Really, then the next day it was four or five, and the next day it was five or six and then then seven, and that you know it just gradually each day, so truly trusting the process and not getting frustrated and just knowing that, man, it's just going to keep getting stronger. It's going to keep getting better. And the I rening with that whole thing is like, honestly, I I came back so much stronger, like I'm saying, like a stronger arm, like a stronger lower half, like better mechanics, Like everything came back better. And it was probably a result of literally having to like rebuild the foundation for throwing again, like literally having to learn how to throw the football again. So mechanically it was almost like, Okay, any deficiencies that I had before, I can correct them now because I'm literally like rewiring the system just to get back on the field again.

01:19:35
Speaker 3: I got a So I got kind of a two part of here because we kind of brushed over the insurance policy a little bit. I want to know, like who you talked to in that process, how long of a thought process it was before You're like, Lesten, five million dollars sounds great, but I'm gonna I'm gonna keep betting on me. And then also, how did we get to New Orleans from you know, having the shoulder surgery, playing your last game as a Charger.

01:19:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's a main conversations with my wife and then with my agent. You know, my agent was Tom Condon, Old Tommy yep ye. So you know, I think it was you know, with Tom like man. Tom was always so just kind of poised, even keel like Tom. I always felt like you talk about agent, do you just feel like has your back man at all times? And like I, I I think as devastated as we all were, that I was just in that situation. I think Tom, if anything, gave me a ton of belief that that I could come back and and and not only play, but play at a high level, you know, and and so it was just reinforcing what I what I wanted to hear, you know, I just I just wanted I just wanted to feel like I just had everybody in my camp, you know, and everybody that was there to help push me to be you know, the best that I could be. But but certainly, you know, just be unwavering, you know, in that belief. And he was one of those guys. Of course, my wife and so yeah, I think at the end of the day, it became an easy decision, like I'll always regret if I don't, you know, make a run at it, you know. But I think I think all that is to say that, like just the reality of the situation with my shoulder, Like if you ask doctor Andrews, he would tell you that he didn't think I was going to be able to come back and play again, even though he put it back together as good as he possibly could. It's like, just the probabilities are not good. I've just he had never seen that injury in a throne ever, Like that was a bull rider's injury when a bull rider gets his arm caught in the rope. This is what he told me. That's what he sees. The dislocation out of the bottom. Right, that's gnarally, man, that's gnarly three hundred and sixty degree tear of the labor. And so I had thirteen anchors in my shoulder. Like literally I would do rehab and it would sound like a cold rubber band. It was these anchors in my shoulder, like just ringing in my ear. Now do it. That's like a vivid memory of.

01:22:12
Speaker 4: Rehab and in context for people I tore my shoulder as well, and it works like a clock like I had twelve, Like thirteen is something extra has to be happening to your shoulder for him to have thirteen anchors.

01:22:24
Speaker 1: So here's so Zach Thomas had surgery the same day that I did with a similar injury. But you guys playing linebacker, they're going to fix you differently because you're not required to have all this external rotation, right.

01:22:38
Speaker 4: We'll have there is for our lives.

01:22:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tighten you guys up right because you don't you don't need all that.

01:22:44
Speaker 4: Right, We're just right here, but yeah, exactly.

01:22:47
Speaker 1: But but for QB rotational athlete need all this external internal like it's it's got to be stable enough but loose enough, you know. So it's like it's walking this delicate line, right and yeah, through the rehab process, it's just about building their strengthen and around that joint to protect it. But yeah, I mean it was like a work of art as I think about what doctor Andrews had to put back together and perform.

01:23:12
Speaker 4: Dude, that is incredible. Again, like you given that perspective too, Like I'm not even thinking about it on Zach Thomas, like having similar surgeries and they gotta do it a little bit differently because the quarterback, linebacker and everything else, and just you still overcoming that and I appreciate you sharing all that with this too, because I know, like if you're if you're young, like I'm thirty six, I want to say you started to take off when I was like in high school, right, Like, wasn't it like when you're having like the four thousand yard seasons, isn't it around like what O seven, eight oh six? Maybe?

01:23:42
Speaker 1: Yeah? Six O six was our first year with the Saints and that was that was really the start of the run.

01:23:49
Speaker 4: So even at my age, like I remember, like there were a couple of moments where I'm getting reminded that you played on the San Diego Chargers. I'm getting reminded your actual laboram story came up during my rehab process on Just Guys. It was like you, I want to say, rich Gannon was another one. But you're like learning about these things about like Drew Brees that you that everybody knows of as a Hall of Fame quarterback, Like anybody young that just watched you basically your Saints days has really you know, they could be hearing this for the first time, just be thinking, Oh shit, he played on It's always the Oh shit, he played on the Chargers. Oh shit, Philip Rivers was a backup him for a couple of years. Oh he was behind Doug Flutie, like the Drew Brees that we all know right now. It's crazy. So I appreciate you walking us down those those those old memories.

01:24:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit of memory laying there. But and then every every one of those Look, I consider myself really lucky from a coaching perspective. You know, Joe Tiller in college, who was so influential for me, Marty Schottenheimer with the Sandy Which Charterers, Sean Payton with the New Orleans Saints, so pretty rare that you would just have, you know, that that level of stability, you know, at each level and each each one of those guys, I just have lessons that continue to ring in my ear, you know, each and every day, especially as now I'm coaching and I'm coaching my kids and other kids, and just you know, a lot of my style has been modeled off of those guys.

01:25:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a lot of guys.

01:25:14
Speaker 4: We have Clay Matthews, on one of our Locker Room show that comes out on Thursdays, and we also have and just hearing about these coaches and how their approach to these kids. What is what is your approach with your children? Are you hardest on your kids a little easier on the other kids. Gregson, he's coaching his.

01:25:30
Speaker 1: Actually I love watching greg stuff. I know I ran is he's coaching middle school football. I was coaching my eighth grade Pop Warner son this year, and I coached Pop Worner the last two years too for my my freshman son. Yeah, it's I would say my style. Well, first off, I think it's very hard for parents to coaching kids because it is very natural to try to over coach them, right. It's like you feel like every lesson that comes to your mind to teach them, you just like, ah, it's just coming out at all times, and you want to coach a mike on every play. And that's where it just becomes difficult, is blurring those lines between like dad and the house, and then you know I'm your coach. You can't tell how many times I've I've had to look my son in the eye and say, hey, so like right now, I'm your coach. I'm not your dad. Okay, I'm your coach, so listen to me.

01:26:21
Speaker 4: Right to what I say.

01:26:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, but i'd say this, like overall, I'd say, I'm pretty intense, but I try to I try to be intense with my praise as much as I am intense with my correction, right, So it's not it's not just one sided I, I would say. I I also I also try to really put each position, each kid in the best position to succeed, and and try to find moments where you can put them in a position where you are able to give them praise. I find that so many, so many of these kids like to watch their growth from the start of the year to the end of the year, like is monumental. And I think that's where we see the sport of football as just being like this creator of men, right and good young men. There's just so many life lessons to be learned through the sport, and it's almost like you're just looking for those moments that you can set up in practice or or in a game that you can immediately spin back to being a life lesson. And then I think, like that recap at the end of every practice and the recap at every at the end of every game are probably some of my favorite moments. You know, it's like, hey, you kind of go around the circle all the coaches, Hey, what did we learn today? And then you just try to take something that happened to practice and then bring it back to life, right like the effort of some kid or you know whatever it might be. Like, I just I find that that those are the most valuable parts of coaching these young kids.

01:28:01
Speaker 3: I love it.

01:28:02
Speaker 10: Uh.

01:28:03
Speaker 3: You we we broke down the shoulder thing a little bit. Now we're in the process. You're going this eight month rehab where we don't know if you can play again. You've ripped up the insurance policy. Your wife's like, I believe in you. Tom Connin's like, I believe in you. Tom connit's paid to believe in you. Yet you still believe that he believed that what is his how is he going out? And what other teams is he talking to? That ended up you going to the New Orleans Saints.

01:28:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say because of the just you know, unknowns with the shoulder and and the fact that I think word had gotten out that you know, I had a twenty five percent chance of coming back and playing, you know, that was that was what the Miami Dolphins doctors had assessed with me, and they had told Nick Saban that they had told the the UH the organization that because at the end of the day, it came down to the New Orleans Saints and the Miami Dolphins as being the two teams that were trying to bring me in as the starter. There was a lot of teams that were like, hey, we'll bring you in as basically like a backup, and let's just see what you got right, Let's see, let's see if you can if you can come back. But the Saints and the Dolphins were the only two that were coming after me to be their starting quarterback.

01:29:16
Speaker 4: When you look at the NFL now and there's all these talks around quarterbacks, should they play as a rookie, all these young quarterbacks who struggle. Then you look at examples like Sam Darnold, who's in the Baker Mayfield gyle Jones, Yeah, Daniel Jones, and obviously clearly it's it was a sim It was very similar with yourself, like what do you feel like you look at with these guys to where it's you know, everybody's wanting to either say they're not the guy, or they're a bust, or they just need to be in a better situation, Like what are you seeing when you watch kind of these conversations unfold, pulling from your own experience seeing these guys now have success after having a rocky start in the NFL.

01:29:54
Speaker 1: Look, man, it's a great it's a great question, and it's and it's probably it's definitely in exact science because we see it, we see it succeed and fail a lot. Right. The first thing I would say is you just you can't replace experience, and so the more experience a guy has, the more that you are going to see what he's capable of and what you have. So I'll give you examples, Like, first off, I think that every NFL, you know, any young player needs at least forty to fifty high level starts before you're going to see, you know, what they're capable of. I think too many times guys get drafted and maybe they've only started for a year, year and a half or two in college and they're expected to come in and it just to happen like that's that's not that's not reality. The reality is if a guy has a limited number of starts in college, it's probably going to take him a good two to three years in the NFL before you're going to know what you have. And if he's in a situation where look as it is, in most cases, most top ten pick quarterbacks, top fifteen pit quarterbacks are going to teams that aren't very good. That's why they're drafting that high, or they have a lot of other holes to fill, and so it's just even more pressure that's falling on the quarterback position, right, And everybody's got this win now mentality and man, we don't have time.

01:31:23
Speaker 10: I get it.

01:31:24
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you also have to understand that, man, the maturation process for a quarterback takes takes a little time. The guys that do come in and maybe have more success early probably has a lot to do with the team that they're on and the system and the staff, but also the amount of experience. Okay, So like the rookies that came in and had success last year, Okay, like the bow Knicks Oennicks started sixty games in college, Jade and Daniels. Jade Daniels started four seasons I think two years for Arizona State two years for LSU, right, Rock Purty, Rock Purty started fifty one games at Iowa State, right, and every time they stept on the field, they were not the better team, right, Like they were the underdogs. They have a chip on the shoulder like they had to kind of like you know, gritty. So I think those would be examples of all right, a lot of experience, so better position to maybe have some success you know, early in the NFL, but still a process.

01:32:20
Speaker 4: Is it still the same formula even if they're having success early, Like, is it still kind of the same formula or system in your head to where it's like you still want to see a good forty fifty high level starts in the NFL Because people talk about they try to break down Bowe nixt all the time. Like you played for Sean Payton. Everybody's like this partnership, this is who Sean wanted. It seems like bow Nick Drew Brees has that mental Yeah, he has that mental fort two. He has that kind of it factor on wanting to compete and learn and be really great. He also started a shitload of games, so if he has a down game, people, I feel like the conversation will be well, he had all these starts, he's kind of as good of a prod product as he's going to be. And it's like, well, there's still some separation from college to the NFL, right, what do you see that situation? Like with like Bo Nicks and Sean Payton in Denver or an example like that.

01:33:07
Speaker 1: Some of it, too, is the style of offense that a lot of these college programs are running man. So much of it's no huddle, so much of its shotguns, so much of it is RPO. You know, we're really you're kind of pigeonholing the quarterbacks into In most cases you're just reading like one person, or you're just reading like this small section of field, and so you don't really get a chance to learn a ton about coverage or even like in other words, I don't know if your football IQ is is where it needs to be, or if you've really been in positions where you've been forced to kind of learn all of those things until you get to the NFL and then all of a sudden it is men, the best teams are the ones that can get under center and run the ball like that's you would know will like as a linebacker, if you're exclusively in shotgun, I think that gives you. That gives you a lot more benefit than all of a sudden offense that is under center. We're going to pound it. Oh here comes play action, right, opening up shots down the field. Oh there's the screen game. Oh there's the shotgun. Oh we're going empty right, like this variety that you can throw at defenses in the NFL. If you have the ability to go under center and add that component, I think makes you much more of a problematic offense. And I think from a quarterback perspective, it's a skill set that you need to have. Like I watched the New England Patriots right now on the Colts two of the teams that are under center the most, and they're having some of the most success. And I think it's really benefiting those quarterbacks and Daniel Jones and Drake may So. I bring that point up just to say that I think a lot of these kids now are doing things in college that then they come to the NFL and then they're having to do stuff that maybe they've never done before, maybe they've never been under center. But man, like that's a big benefit to that. I had a little bit of that that learning curve. When I came in the league, we were spread offensive Purdue throwing the ball fifty times a game. I was in shotgun ninety percent of the time. I get into a pro style offense with Ladanian Tomlinson and like a true fullback of Lorenzo Meal, and guess what, I'm under center like seventy five percent of the time right having to turn my back to the defense on play action Like I never I didn't know what that was, right, right, So that that took That took a little time. I saw that with bo Nicks last year because I know Sean Payton likes to do that, right, So again it's what system where they in and then what are you asking them to do now? And just understanding there's gonna be a little bit of a learning curve that goes along with that.

01:35:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, we will brought up that, you know, the bow Nick Sean Payton relationship. Everyone always kinds of lean on, like Sean Payton has found his new Drew Brees bow Knicks student of the game, true professional, very dialed in in his routine. Did you ever have a conversation with Sean Payton about the possibility of bo Knicks or as bow Knicks reached out to you and be like, Hey, this guy's a really intense coach. How do or so, how do I get him to like me a little bit? More like what do I got to do?

01:36:00
Speaker 10: Like?

01:36:00
Speaker 3: Have you had any conversations with those two about their relationship?

01:36:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've I remember talking to Sean a bunch during the draft process when all, you know, six of those quarterbacks were out there, and you know, him talking about who he liked, and ironically, he loved Bo. He loved Bo from from the very beginning, and then Bo kind of fell in his lap at whatever that was, pick twelve or thirteen. And I think Bo has all the traits that Sean loves. First off, Bo's a fiery competitor. Sean likes. Sean likes having a guy like that, even a guy who's going to kind of snap back at him.

01:36:33
Speaker 4: You know.

01:36:33
Speaker 1: I think that Sean Payton comes from the Bill Parcells world of coaching, which is, you know, Bill Parcells would get audien, you know, and I think Bill loved when you would come back to him with conviction, you know about about you know, whatever it was. And so Sean likes that type of a guy and obviously bo to multi sport athlete, a ton of experience, you know, knows what he likes. Definitely a learning curve, you know with some of the things in Sean Payton's offense, and I think you've seen him grow and mature through that. Yeah. I've had many conversations with Bo too. I think just at the end of the day, just about like preparation and process situation some time within this offseason. A great kid. Man loves ball and what's would be great.

01:37:19
Speaker 3: You definitely see the mental four or two with bone knicks. This last game against the Giants, I think they were. They scored thirty six and the fourth.

01:37:24
Speaker 1: Thirty three and the fourth man.

01:37:26
Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy?

01:37:27
Speaker 3: Unreal, unbelievable because you thought, like, I'm watching Jackson Dart and he's getting a couple of penalties and that lasting I'm like, this kid is really lighting the NFL on fire. And they score relatively quickly. It's like, holy shit, bon Nix is about to do just too. Yeah, he's about to do it. If we go travel back down to the Bayou a little bit. You got Spencer Rattler. He's a first year starter of South Carolina game cog JP Huffy sitting on the bus with us.

01:37:50
Speaker 6: What are you.

01:37:51
Speaker 3: Seeing out of Kellen Moore as his first time being a head coach at the Saints. Spencer Radler seems like he has a lot of success. Then it's like then he throws like two or three picks in a game and the kind of like finding their identity on offense. What do you see him from the New Orleans Saints right now?

01:38:04
Speaker 4: Yeah?

01:38:05
Speaker 1: Look, I think Spencer Rattler has a lot of unique traits. I think he throws the ball extremely well. I think he's he has the ability to improvise, to problem solve. He's taken off and run and made some exceptional plays with his legs this year. So from that perspective, he has all those traits. I think he's got a little monoxie to him. Look, I've always liked Kellen Moore's systems. Wherever he's been been a lot of places. Has had to put together offenses for a lot of quarterbacks, and I think that's what he's been really good at is putting together offenses that fit the strengths of the qbs and the personnel around him. I know what's tough as you sit here, because you're like, ah, they're not a one in sixteen. They certainly don't look like one in sixteen when you watch them. They've been in most of their games, like most of their games have come down to a final drive where they had a chance to win, tie, certainly extend the game, and a way to win. Look on the flip side, you look at the Tampa Bay Bucks. You know they found ways to win. Unfortunately, the Saints just have it right and their records reflect that. But I think they're building something there. They've got a ton of pieces on offense, They've got one of the better old lines in football. Defensively, they've got a great core group of guys, giving up too many big plays the last couple of weeks. But otherwise they have all the pieces, you know, So I think you just kind of scratch your head. They just haven't found ways to win some of these close ones.

01:39:34
Speaker 3: If somebody called you right now, if Kilmore College is I need I need one game, one game at you to show these young bucks, what's what do you think with your competitive drive and you had we'll give you three weeks to train, could you go in and be competitive in an NFL football game today.

01:39:52
Speaker 1: Well, now, look, I would know, I would know where to throw it. I just don't know if I could get it there.

01:40:00
Speaker 10: Yeah.

01:40:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, turn out the tape. I know where it's supposed to go.

01:40:03
Speaker 4: Right.

01:40:04
Speaker 1: Uh, now that the right that's that's one. That's one lingering effect from the uh from the shoulder surgery back. You know twenty years ago now was doctor Andrews said, you know, hey, you're you're you're gonna be on the fast track now for a degenerative shoulder, and you know at some point this thing is going to kind of take a steep dive. And unfortunately, I think I'm at that point, Like I don't I don't throw with my right arm anymore. I actually throw left handed. I kind of started doing that towards actually, just with my kids because I come home after a long day of practice and I didn't have anything left in the right arm and they but the boys want to play catch.

01:40:39
Speaker 4: So yeah, left hand, you throw.

01:40:41
Speaker 1: I throw left handed. I'm hey, I'm I'm pretty I'm pretty mean inside of inside of thirty with this left dude.

01:40:49
Speaker 3: You bring up a unique point though, that a lot of a lot of players don't think about while they're playing, is the wear and tear that's taking place in their body. Now that you've been at the leaf for a few years now, and you know, my shoulder, I was told it's gonna be on a fast track. What kind of things are you doing to kind of keep your body ahead of the chains so you don't kind of just kind of go downhill? Not just a shoulder from a body standpoint.

01:41:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, now a great question. Look, I I still love I mean, I just love athletics and I love to be active. So man, I play a bunch of racket sports, like I played a bunch of Podel pickle. I still like. I like the mountain bike. I like to you know, get in the water and stand a paddle or surf of course, just all this stuff that I do with my kids, you know, athletically. And then look, I like to train. I like to I like to lift heavy weights at least twice a week, you know, especially lower body. Like once you're a rotational athlete, like I never want to lose. Like you think about what you lose with the aging process. You lose the ability to go fast, you lose the ability to recover, and then you just lose the ability to do it, you know, day after day, right, and as you stay on top of so like flexibility is important, so like yoga plates, all those things to make sure that I'm staying like pliable. I mean, I still get bodywork and I saw in a cold tub like religiously, and then honestly just to staying strong like I want to. I want to feel like especially part of this is maybe motivation because my boys are getting older and like they walk in the kitchen, they try to size you up, right, don't walk up, don't walk up on me, boy, Yeah, you gotta gotta you got you gotta keep pace, man, and some of it they're always eyeing you man like you know so, so I I feel like that's that's what motivates me. But I just want to. I just want to be able to do all the things that I want to do for as long as I possibly can. I used to use the term at the end of my career prolong my prime. I was always trying to prolong my prime with everything I was doing. So man, from a training, recovery, all that stuff. It's almost like I'm still playing from that perspective. I still have that same mentality.

01:42:56
Speaker 4: I love that all right, Time to eliminate some some friends. Time to some hearts. Best offensive weapon that you've ever had? You got to play with la Danian Thomas and Jimmy Graham, Alvin Kamara, Darren Sprolls, Michael to You got to play with a lot of specimens. Yeah, who's your favorite offensive weapon you've ever played with?

01:43:13
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, man, I might say, darren Sproles.

01:43:16
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well these rolls.

01:43:21
Speaker 1: Would you want to call it? Cover Sprolls out of the backfield?

01:43:23
Speaker 4: No?

01:43:23
Speaker 10: No.

01:43:24
Speaker 4: When he was in Philly and I would have him out in the flat when I was on the Redskins and he wouldn't catch the ball, I'd be like, Hey, I'm really glad Sam Bradford did not throw you this ball out here. We pat each other on the helmet, jog back.

01:43:33
Speaker 1: To the hutches. Yeah. You know what it's like. You can have such a great defensive scheme, right, you can have such a great pressure or you know, pass rush, stunt or bracket coverage or whatever you know on tight ends receivers, but like that, running back out of the backfield can ruin your day as a as a defense and as a defensive coordinator. So I just I taught, you know, talking to our own defensive coordinators when we had sprolls and then just watching you know, his career and obviously what I know about him, he was just such a weapon and a matchup problem and and like we could find ways to beat you in so many, so many different ways with him. The other thing too, was he didn't get enough credit as a runner yet. No, he was not a big guy. I mean he was five seven, one hundred and eighty pounds maybe. But here's the other thing. Will like hard to see him when he's behind lineman right like in the zone, in the zone game, so like, he was slippery, slippery, and man, the minute that he like one cut found his lane, boy, he was gone, right and then good luck open field tackling him.

01:44:51
Speaker 12: Right.

01:44:51
Speaker 1: So like, for all those reasons, he just he was a weapon that I like, I call him a generational player, like generational if you know how to use him. And as durable as he was. And I'm not even I didn't even talk about the special team's game like him returning punts is one of the best punt returners, probably top three, top five of all time, all time. Yeah, so yeah, he was.

01:45:18
Speaker 4: He was special and I think too. It's like people don't understand, like, especially when you get in the red zone and that halfback option comes alive. You got to do like one or two things. Like as a coordinator, you're thinking, hey, will or any linebacker, it's like, take away the space, stay inside. But everybody knows this running back is gonna win nine times out of ten, So what do you got to do to kind of help with that out. You're gonna have to give like a bam call to your edge rusher, so you're kind of taking the edge rusher out of pressure. So if you're aligning him too, hey, let's put him on the side where the best pass rusher is and the backer back there's got to give him a bam call. He's giving a bam call. Pass rush is Matt, he doesn't get the rush of passer. You're kind of arguing on the sidelight and say, bro, I've got like I'm not gonna be able to cut any linebacker. You're not able to cover this dude, and you're gonna get because they want to bracket take away the stars everywhere else. But it's a fucking running back out of the backfield. That's honestly the problem because you're not and again you're not lined up, you're not on the line of scrimmage to where if you're pressing or you're playing at say five yards, it's not like the fundamental coverage of a receiver. This dude's coming out of the backfield, who can stem you before he even gets to where he's actually gonna make his cut, which makes it insanely harder. Cordators will try to put a safety down. Okay, let's get Willie boy all the game, or let's get this backer who probably can't cover out of the game. You'll put a safety in and they show you still ten times out of ten, it's just not gonna happen because it's not a it's not a routine covered snap. It blows my mind and it'll always piss me off.

01:46:43
Speaker 11: Dree.

01:46:44
Speaker 3: You can tell that will is he's telling us with so much like fortitude. He's just so like aggressive the way he's talking.

01:46:50
Speaker 1: No, no, But you know what, that was the part that I forgot, Like just from a pass rush perspective, he is exactly right like whenever sprolls he would line up in the backfield to that week's side, Like all of a sudden, that backer in a heartbeat is giving that call to the end to try to chip them all the way now right, Yeah, that affects the pass rush, you know.

01:47:09
Speaker 3: You know that Thursday Friday when they're going over red zone with Will, They're like, hey, you got sprolls this week this it's keep it inside, And Will was like, I got them coaching. I'm looking at the fucker's gotta make me do this.

01:47:20
Speaker 4: I'm looking at.

01:47:24
Speaker 10: That.

01:47:24
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm telling I'm like, Bro, I'm bamming you, like, that's this is what if I get say, trips far gunner, I identify where I'm going to get god right, because not all the time, just at the backs off set. But if I know I'm in this situation and I know this is what's coming, I'm fucking baming you, bro, like you're gonna hit that dude, stop rushing passion.

01:47:42
Speaker 1: Here's the other froll story and this just this kind of just rounds out the total package. So we're playing the Niners back when they had that legit defense. This is like twenty thirteen. Oh yeah, Will, when we're we have the chance to go down and beat them in the end. So right, like we're on a two minute drive and man sprolls is kill him out of the backfield, this and that, and then there's this one moment where we all a pass play that's a man beater, and sure enough, here's Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman boy hitting these a gaps right and Sposey's in the backfield. And I remember, like right before the play, I said, hey, bro, I'm not gonna do this to you often, but you got a boat. You just got to bow up on this state right now, right like you got to step up and you got to handle this guy. We can deliver this ball down the field and man coverage and you go kick a field, go to win this game. And dude, he steps up, and hey, those dudes were oh yeah Bowman, oh yeah yeah, like the best.

01:48:30
Speaker 4: Of the yeah, one of the best pandems of all time.

01:48:32
Speaker 1: Right, that's who everybody was watching. And Sposi comes up and wow, right right in the chest of Bowman and and just holds him off for long enough, right, so we can deliver the ball down the field and man coverage, like Jimmy Graham bidding field goal rains kick this game winner. But again, like that's that's the other part of being like a back that goes probably un you know, unappreciated. You know, you talk a lot about what they can do out of the backfield, You talk about the run game, but at times they got step up and deliver a blow on a guy and allow you to you know, get the ball down the field the big situation. And suppose he was always willing to do that at five seven a buck eighty. Yeah, I love that pund dogs, Yeah.

01:49:13
Speaker 3: I love that. Bud light question. Yeah, let's get out of here, all right, Drew. We all know everyone would do anything for an ice cold, crisp bud light.

01:49:23
Speaker 10: Uh.

01:49:23
Speaker 3: If you could have a bud light with anybody in the world, past or present, who would it be.

01:49:29
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a good one.

01:49:36
Speaker 4: Man.

01:49:38
Speaker 1: You know. I'm gonna say, uh, it's just the first name that came to mind. I'm gonna say, Roger Stallbach.

01:49:45
Speaker 4: Roger stab Yeah.

01:49:48
Speaker 1: I just we were at the Cowboys Commander's game yesterday. It was my son's birthday and his godfather is Brian Schotheimer. So we were there. We were there watch watching the uh, watching the Cowboys play, and I remember I remember and stallbuck before the game, and I was just thinking, like one of the one of the all time greats, one of the all times legends. There's actually a great story I sang the uh take me out to the ball game at Wrigley Field with Roger stallback back when I was in college. That that that that that's the story for another time. Yeah, but anyway, he's he's one of my all time favorites and cowboy legend. And I just saw him yesterday, so that was the first name that came to mind.

01:50:28
Speaker 4: I love it. Hey, we appreciate it, Drew. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for sharing all those stories. You're an absolute legend, Hall of famer, all the fun stuff. What's up?

01:50:38
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the boy.

01:50:41
Speaker 4: They're out over here, just pointing at the chair on the bus. We'd love to have you on the bus one day. But thank you for your time.

01:50:48
Speaker 1: Bro, absolutely, man. Thanks guys, appreciate you.

01:50:50
Speaker 4: Just give right a plus drink. Appreciate you, Drew, have a go on, man, Thank you very much.

01:50:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a guy.

01:51:02
Speaker 4: That was fun? Why what dude? It was fun?

01:51:11
Speaker 3: Yeah?

01:51:11
Speaker 4: Were you guys able to hear some of that. Yeah, did he was fun. That was definitely one where I'm checking the time. I'm like, we're only gonna have time for a few more. But like stories like that you'd love to get into, or just his lead. Yeah, speeches leadership.

01:51:26
Speaker 3: Like he's like a Payton Manning type right where he would just lose it on players at practice and like send him the sideline.

01:51:32
Speaker 4: That's the thing too, Like him and Sean Payton, they were the first. That was the first time I experienced where's.

01:51:37
Speaker 6: Mike gonna be still in the pot or we're gonna cut this part?

01:51:42
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I could be in the potty. You felt like this is awesome. Yeah, what I was saying to where was I out helping?

01:51:50
Speaker 3: You were talking about Sean first time you experienced Sean Payton and Drew Brees.

01:51:53
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, talking about his intensity and everything else like that. That was when I was on the same So I was kind of the first organization to where Sean Payton would stop practice at any point of practice if something came up, like not just like he had this plan, but if a moment came up, or say an incompletion or something happens, He's like thinking something in his mind of a situation this could be in and they all stop it, or Drew would have one. Everybody'd stop practice and we would all come up as a team and he'd be breaking down the situation. So that's why I get fascinated because you also see clips too of Drew Brees and Sean Payton sitting there the night before a game like up late, going through every type of situational football. And I'm thinking of that type of schooling that bo Nix is getting, and it probably will even though he's had so many starts, the difference in college and pros and everything else, to where he's still very much immersed in this like school of Sean Payton, to where he's got the effect of wanting to learn it, but as he continues to digest it, he'll like just continue to get better because of how intense and situational I feel like coach Coach Payton is.

01:52:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you could see bo Nicks taking that next step because you're right, like college and NFL are completely different sports, so there is gonna take some I don't even know Bodenicks played sixty games or whatever many it was, but you see it in that last drive after Jackson Dart has that running for the touchdown. The way he is working the sidelines and with time in the middle of the field, he's from a situational football standpoint. He's figuring it out quickly because they know exactly the yardlin that you have to get to. You don't have like the red line on the screen that all of us are watching, and they know like, hey, our kicker is great, best from this area, from this hash he's working it. It's it's very impressive to see. So that makes a lot of sense. You're talking about like Sean Payton sitting there, he sees the situation that practice, like, let's break this down for everybody.

01:53:33
Speaker 4: So they know the situation.

01:53:34
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. That's just good coaching.

01:53:38
Speaker 4: Get you juiced up. I can't imagine in those situations where there's like there's no timeouts left, you're in a double wall situation to where you're forcing them to throw the ball to the inside. They might gain yardage, but they're trying to maybe gain yardage and kick a field goal.

01:53:52
Speaker 3: Toh.

01:53:52
Speaker 4: It's like, however much time is left on the clock, let's call it anywhere between like twelve and sixteen seconds to where it's like there it's a per second margin on Hey, this isn't good to call double wall yet, or we're all gonna this. The call is gonna be double wall to where in college the coaching staff might know this and the players don't. But in the NFL, like everybody has everybody has to understand what's going on to where they're quizzing you throughout the week and everything else. Hey, this situation happens, it's very specific, very particular. We're not gonna be able to rep it in the game. We might run at one time and walk through every other week just to stay refreshed on it. But it's like it's those situations where all players have to understand the situational awareness of the NFL.

01:54:32
Speaker 3: And you can tell the Giants were doing that in that last drive because at the one where bo Nick stes it to the middle of the field ends up getting them into field goal range. There's two wide receivers that are running similar routes where it seems like, oh there.

01:54:44
Speaker 4: Might felt like yeah like Courtland, yeah, Courtland, sudden it kind of.

01:54:47
Speaker 3: Goes past him. But in that situation, if you're the if you're dable you're the Giants coach, you need to be telling these guys on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. If we're in this position where I'm making them throw to the middle field and we're in that twelve to sixteen second mark, one guy makes attack, let's get two or three guys on top of him as well.

01:55:02
Speaker 4: Right, don't get a penalty.

01:55:05
Speaker 3: But lay on him. Let it drag out where they have to kind of push you off, because they kicked that ball with what two seconds left in the clock, and what's that They spiked it, right, and so they might not be able to put themselves in a position to spike it if you have not just one guy on there, but one, two, three guys where it's like, we got to get this guy off. That's just little things you can do when the seconds matter more than anything else and you're forcing the quarterbacks your throats in the middle of.

01:55:28
Speaker 4: The field, right right. I want to say there was a situation like that in college. Gee, did somebody on here post a clip of like, you know, somebody catching the ball, he's on the ground, everybody's kind of like laying on him or diving on him.

01:55:41
Speaker 5: That was me that posted that, and honestly, it was taking a little bit. Everybody was saying I was getting upset with the refs. Really I was mad at our play call. But it was before the half. We run a play, We're trying to hurry up and clock it, and their players were laying on top of us blatantly.

01:55:56
Speaker 4: That was one where it's like, that's a little that's where that's where you probably will see a fly because you got to kind of if you get the tackle, make sure on top and just take your time getting up. But it did seem like a few players they.

01:56:07
Speaker 5: Were just like shoving him down and walking out right.

01:56:11
Speaker 4: That is that is a penalty.

01:56:12
Speaker 3: That should that should absolutely be a penalty. But yeah, that it's that kind of stuff that just kind of detail changes one little thing. Because if you watch that Giants Broncos game, like Giants owned that entire game, had it and then Jackson Dart throws a bad pick late in the fourth quarter that lets them come back. I don't know what the exact score.

01:56:32
Speaker 4: Was that many points to within like the last six minutes.

01:56:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were three lead changes in the last six.

01:56:37
Speaker 4: Minutes down touchdown, touchdown, touch down.

01:56:41
Speaker 5: Going into the fourth quarter. Bo Knicks had like eleven Fantasy points and then he finished with thirty nine.

01:56:47
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because that's my other league still lost. But when I saw him still have thirty something, because I'm like checking, I'm like, I'm checking the game through Fantasy, and I did see him have like he didn't have very many points, like well, you know, b Nicks like giants, they must be they must be the real deal. And then when I saw I got home in time to watch the end of that game, and they're like four total touchdowns. I got there right when he was running that like QB design run when they scored to go up and then Jackson they go down. A couple you know, calls like that, PI calls a little. I thought suspect that they called on Riley Cross an exciting game. Exciting, exciting game. We want to save that. I don't know. We got Zach Bond coming on soon.

01:57:30
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so let's let's temperate. Let's get to Zach Bond.

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02:00:14
Speaker 3: Buddy. First off, I know we had a lot of football to get into. But that house, man, something about Forest.

02:00:21
Speaker 4: Green for me really sets the tone. Did you you build this house yourself? Do you paint it yourself? What's going on?

02:00:27
Speaker 10: Did not build it, but we did have it painted. Yes?

02:00:30
Speaker 4: Nice? Nice. Everybody's gotta paint their house.

02:00:33
Speaker 3: Everybody's got to paint their house.

02:00:34
Speaker 10: This is that front sitting room that you never use. Yeah, that's what I'm mean right now?

02:00:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, get it and that's dialed up man, Brostoff. Congrats on the big win.

02:00:43
Speaker 10: Thank you.

02:00:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, we needed that one.

02:00:44
Speaker 4: Gbot bro So soked to have you. I think you are phenomenal. I think it's super impressive that you're somebody that's been able to move from the outside to the inside. I do have to ask Cam Scataboo.

02:01:03
Speaker 10: That's one of one of those guys you watch on film and you're like, dang, he runs hard, but you don't really know until you feel yourself. So I'm glad we got him this week. Yeah, yeah, I'll just say that.

02:01:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.

02:01:14
Speaker 4: And he caught you kind of sideways too. If I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, I know you can run, I know you can hit, but he kind of had you sideways and just watching from the side, ain't go seeing you go kvie your oh shiit that money?

02:01:25
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was a run across the field and get my ass smack type play right there.

02:01:30
Speaker 3: Listen, we got.

02:01:33
Speaker 10: I got to the sideline of I'm like, hey, dide it look bad.

02:01:39
Speaker 4: That's the only way where you're watching next week. In the position meetings too, like you know, you guys had a tough loss, but just sitting there and t or a defensive meeting or position meeting, you're just like, all right, go ahead, skip through this.

02:01:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you get to that plane, you just put your head down hoping we just we just skip over a couple of your buddies looking over at the corner, like, God, damn that happened to you. But yeah, what it has the energy and like in that building, you guys obviously had a big, big week this week. Jalen Hurts throws for a billion yards. Everybody's been saying, you guys can't throw the ball. Everyone's like, hey, this is the best put together team, but we're lacking on deep. There's been so much noise on the outside revolving around the Philadelphia Eagles. What has it been like in the building for you guys keeping the main thing, the main thing?

02:02:20
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the noise in the in the media is a lot louder than the noise in the locker room. Like we get we get to the locker room and it's like, what, what's what's the big fuss? Like we're winning games for the most part, we're winning games and we're doing an overall good job. So I think it's all blown out of proportion and just keeping the main thing. The main thing is the biggest thing winning games.

02:02:43
Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago, when it was the Giants, and just from your from your vantage point watching it happen, the fourth Toush pushes in a row to go score, knowing it was like, was it fourth and short? A third and short? It's like, okay, we're gonna get two opportunities at these you get it, you're the one yard line, you continue to just do the Tousch push. I know, watching it on TV, I'm sitting there, these dudes are really doing four Toush pushes. Yeah.

02:03:10
Speaker 10: Yeah. Usually I'm the guy that's like, yep, run it, run it again, run it again. But after the third time, I'm like, all right, all right, we gotta try something different. Yeah, but the thing is that it works. And if you run a play that works, why not keep running it?

02:03:24
Speaker 3: Yeah? You got the Giants second time in three weeks this week? What are the what are some things you can go and watch the film, but from you as a player being on that field when you guys play them on Thursday night football, what are the things that they did so well that made it difficult for you guys on defense?

02:03:42
Speaker 6: Yeah?

02:03:42
Speaker 10: I think just the theme this year has been like as defending champions, like we're gonna get everyone's best shot. Everyone's gonna come at us like with the with their best game, like their best game plan, the physicality, their intensity, and that's what it was that game. So just combating that and coming with some swag at home?

02:04:01
Speaker 4: What was the taale?

02:04:02
Speaker 10: Like?

02:04:02
Speaker 4: Obviously it was a bad taste, But is this a game now? You you beat the Vikings, which was a massive win for you guys, especially again with all the noise offensively, the question marks even defensively, you guys haven't played your best football. I know you guys have had injuries. But once that game is over against the Vikings, is there like a salivation going on getting the Giants again this quickly after the loss?

02:04:24
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's very rare that you play a team two times like that close. Sometimes it'll be like one at the beginning of the season and then one at the end. But to get them this close, it's kind of weird, to be honest, But good for us because we lost and we get to get our lick back. But yeah, I just got to get after it, honestly, because you.

02:04:43
Speaker 4: Know, like after New York wins that game in the fashion that they did do it, it's like, you see, it's like you got all the bulletin board material in the world just to be like licking your chops for this game. You got the you know, the Create Team Caucasians, Jackson Dark Game, Skataboo, they're pot Like Scataboo's out their post shirt list, like he's going viral for head button walls and shit gets the hit on ozach Bonn. I know you're gonna be pissed off, brother, ready to go.

02:05:09
Speaker 10: Come on, man, we gotta get our lick back. We're too competitive in this game to just lay down and take it like that.

02:05:16
Speaker 3: Buddy. I want to talk to you real quick about you signing a one year deal for three and a half million dollars with the Eagles. You're approve it deal and you became an All Pro in that, Like for all the players watching who sit there and they've been the situation where they know they can be this caliber of player and they have to go into a prove it deal, Like, what is the mindset? What is the takeover for you to go not only become an All Pro guy, but be wearing the green dot for an elite defense who wins the Super Bowl and then eventually we're gonna what was this the number was too big for the piece of paper. A three year, fifty one million dollar contract extension after that, like had to be a lot of ups and downs and thought processes when you're leaving the Saints going to the Eagles and that year the offseason, what was that like for you?

02:05:59
Speaker 4: An inside back or two? Yeah?

02:06:02
Speaker 10: Yeah, leaving the Saints, I had, I had like two paths I could have gone down. I could have like stuck with being a special teams guy and played my role and done a good job at that and played a long time, made some money. But there was something in me that was like, man, I know I can play. I know I can play, whether it's inside or outside. And I talked with my agent, my wife, my family, and they're like, give it another shot, Like don't give up on yourself just yet. And I didn't know what position I was going to play coming to the Eagles until I'm at the front door meeting the inside linebacker coach's hand, and I'm like, all right, I guess I'm inside. Let's figure this out. And we had a lot of new guys in the culture here, so good, so I just jumped right in and started winning games and playing well.

02:06:46
Speaker 4: Absolute specimen being a special teams demon because you can run. I'm sitting here looking right now. It's what am I seeing here holds his high school two hundred meter record ran a twenty one point five at two hundred and twenty pounds, Like, are you somebody's sitting there talking shit with the boys on teams when they're talking about who the fastest guy is.

02:07:04
Speaker 10: They never throw me in that conversation, but I always need to get my respect, Like I'm fast too, but you can.

02:07:11
Speaker 4: Fly, you can fly. I also see that you were You play quarterback in high school through for about two thousand yards and twenty touchdowns.

02:07:18
Speaker 10: Yeah, I played quarterback, but I was really just like small town athlete, you know, get it in his hands. Every time I was running the ball, I would drop back knowing I'm about to take off and run. So it's a lot of a lot of Russian.

02:07:31
Speaker 4: We gotta work on him just talking shit like yeah, I was that dude. Yeah, like yeah, but you know.

02:07:37
Speaker 1: You know what he is.

02:07:37
Speaker 3: He thinks he's telling you to the real media right now, we're going to do an arrogant linebacker thought he was the man in high school. Bro, if you're a cat. I'm assuming you win both ways on the football field, and you're playing quarterbacks dropping back and it's like, yeah, you all know I'm gonna run, but I'm still gonna go off on you guys no matter what.

02:07:57
Speaker 10: Yeah, there was some confidence there for sure.

02:07:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, you know that little something, you know he had the chin strap, chin strap on buckles, feeling like Michael vicked times. Yeah, what kid.

02:08:07
Speaker 10: Didn't do that mouthguard hanging out? Yeah that was me.

02:08:11
Speaker 3: What what's your what's your thought process when you look at the Big ten and you see the state of your alma mater, the Wisconsin Badgers right now? I hate doing this. Ooh, but it's tough for Luke Fickle and the boys. Man, what's going on there?

02:08:27
Speaker 10: I couldn't tell you. Man, it's when you think. Let me ask you, when you think of Wisconsin football, what do you think?

02:08:35
Speaker 3: I think a run game, run game, offensive lineman that all could be in the NFL just three yards and a cloud of dust until sixty forty fifty happens.

02:08:44
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking also thinking linebackers, your guys, defensive front seven.

02:08:48
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you're thinking thirteen personnel, twenty one, twenty two extra linement corn fed Wisconsin farm Boys.

02:08:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, besides watch Nurse.

02:08:59
Speaker 10: Yeah, when you watch him, now, that's not what I'm seeing. That's not what I'm seeing. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to. I'll keep my comments to myself. But we need to win some games.

02:09:11
Speaker 4: You know, you don't have to say anything. I just know. For me, like, I was fired up for the Fickle higher. I thought he was one of the best head coaches when he left Cincinnati. So I'm sitting here completely surprised that he hasn't been able to get Wisconsin going because you guys have been good. I mean, you guys whooped our ass, but you guys have been good for a long time. I felt running the ball, playing defense. I like Fickle, Like, I don't know a whole lot about him other than how he did in Cincinnati. And I know he's like him and Vrabel were, they're best friends. Yeah, so I'm thinking, Okay, he's gonna bring this chip on shoulder mentality, like this swagger, this no nonsense, all hard work, everything else to Wisconsin. So I'm like, I'm shocked. I'm sure like everybody else is just that Fickle hasn't worked out there.

02:09:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

02:09:55
Speaker 10: Part of me was like giving him the benefit of the doubt, like, Okay, he's got to get his guys in here to Like, Yeah, if we're gonna switch the system and switch what we do, like, we need different players. We can't have these big, old old linemen running the spread offense. So maybe just give it some time to develop and get some different guys in there.

02:10:13
Speaker 3: Exciting whites. You get to play with them on every single down. They took the world by storm last year. They end up starting their own podcast. Talk to me about what Cooper Dead and Reid Blaking Ship are on the field. How are these guys? Are they big communicators?

02:10:28
Speaker 10: Like?

02:10:28
Speaker 3: Are these two dudes you hate? Just let them go play. I want to know about their play style. What kind of camaradi we have in the locker room.

02:10:35
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll start with Reid. Read is the biggest communicator at the safety spot. He like demands the coverage aspect of our defense and a really good player. He knows what's going on, he knows what's coming. And then Coop is just a dog like I do it all. He's strong in a run game. Coming up making tackles can cover. Hey, the exciting Whites are doing their thing.

02:11:00
Speaker 4: They are're putting together a good football team at the end of this year.

02:11:07
Speaker 10: What what team am I on?

02:11:10
Speaker 4: I personally I love to claim you. I love to claim you and say, Zach bond Is will be our green dot on defense. Listen, if you weren't asking me and I broke this down myself in December, you'll be on the team. And then from there, it's what happens whenever you know, guys kind of see it that they can. You know, I'm not on the Ald White team. I want to say, who is the Who's the safety for the Ravens?

02:11:39
Speaker 10: Who Hamilton?

02:11:41
Speaker 4: Hamilton? I claimed him a couple of years ago, but they were kind of breaking down the footage and he said on a plane right after the game that he was a part of the All White team. And I'll like, hey, buddy, we got you, like he went to Notre Dame. You know, we get to kind of have them for a year. So it's more like I'll put the ball in your court. I'll tell you what we love to have you. I'm talking the world the red carpet out for your recruiting visit, there might be a lot more ego and guys trying to figure out who's gonna be playing on the roster. I can guarantee you a starting spot right now on the All White squad. You want to have it, you'll be there. You got half yourself, you got half the secondary already.

02:12:13
Speaker 10: You've got to say your parameters. I'm like, what are you doing with the mix the mixed guys?

02:12:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's usually it's usually if they say it's usually if they say the word or not they walk around they're saying the word. It's, you know, the kind of the language barrier a little bit. That's kind of my parameters. And now like he seems like a seems like a type of guy who's gonna be on the all White squad this year?

02:12:34
Speaker 3: Are you so you bringing this up? Are you saying, hey, Will Compton, I would like to be on the All White team this year. I like to make that squad.

02:12:41
Speaker 10: It's it's you guys are the head coaches.

02:12:43
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, trust me, you got you got you because I already got the already got the pitch for you. You got red, you got Cooper Degen. Riley Moss is out there in Denver, super familiar with Cooper Degene. You guys are communicating on the back end as well as any any unit in the country. So listen, we would thrive. We would thrive with you on the old white Hey, what's this? I want you to school me up here? What is this? What is this run Scape I'm hearing about RuneScape? Runescpe? What is this RuneScape I'm hearing about? You know, you did a you did a shout out for the eagles or social post that's going viral. Yeah, you played a big time as a kid.

02:13:23
Speaker 10: RuneScape's an old game that I used to play as a kid. I think it came out like early two thousands, like retro kind of like a World of Warcraft type games that I just found out they have on mobile now, so I hot back on and really been enjoying it.

02:13:40
Speaker 4: Did you ever play?

02:13:41
Speaker 10: You guys play? No?

02:13:42
Speaker 4: No, no.

02:13:42
Speaker 3: You can tell by Will's pronunciation of the game he hasn't played the game yet. But I also have not played the game. You bring up World of Warcraft? Are you familiar at all with the oblo.

02:13:52
Speaker 10: No, damn, ask him about that.

02:13:54
Speaker 4: Ask him about that dinosaur one?

02:13:56
Speaker 3: Oh arc You are you familiar with the game ARC.

02:13:59
Speaker 10: I've heard of our part of ARC. I played. I played for probably twenty minutes, and I didn't like it.

02:14:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's fair because when you start, you're basically in survival mode for the first fifty levels before you can essentially sustain a life with these prehistoric animals. It's very difficult to do. But I've I've found myself in a very weird, weird world with ARC. My wife's one of my wife's best friends met a guy on ARC. They are now married in Canada. It's a long story. You have too much, you don't have enough time.

02:14:25
Speaker 4: We can talk. My problem with ARC is just that you could build up all these levels, but if some crew comes in and takes you over, you're starting from ground zero.

02:14:34
Speaker 3: Right, Right, That's why you need to see.

02:14:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you turn the game off, like you're still like sleeping, you're alive.

02:14:39
Speaker 10: Right.

02:14:39
Speaker 3: You have to like essentially go to bed in the game at any point, and it's always I'm not going to say the ethnicity that gets you, but there's a one there's one ethnicity that always comes and gets your ass while you're gone.

02:14:50
Speaker 10: I know you're right, You're right, you're right.

02:14:53
Speaker 3: But my buddy of my wife's friend, she got married to a guy named Joe who's like gotta be top fifty player in the world. And we meet him via online and now we're like riding around in jet packs like we were.

02:15:04
Speaker 4: We're living cush out there in the art world.

02:15:08
Speaker 3: You got to come back and revisit for a second.

02:15:10
Speaker 4: I love back in like the old Testament days. You're marrying for like supreme protection. Yeah, and she married in to somebody who's the top towns player.

02:15:18
Speaker 3: It's exactly that's exactly what she's doing right now. Uh, talk to me about Vic Fangio. What kind of DC are we? Is he like a players coach type of guy? Is he a hard nosed cat and he's got a good personality on him, like break him down.

02:15:33
Speaker 4: For se like, oh, he could be in a bad mood today, let's not jab him a whole lot.

02:15:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.

02:15:38
Speaker 10: No, he's kind of a player's coach and a like a hard nosed guy. He wants everyone to succeed and do their best, but at the same time he's like gonna get on you to do it. But it's not it's direct and indirect at the same time. Like he's he'll drill into guys, but then he'll also like throw a little shade or jabs. It's all accountability, is what it comes down to.

02:16:00
Speaker 4: Somebody I'm absolutely terrified by is a Jalen Carter yep Oh. Is there is anybody saying a word to him after the Dallas Cowboys game from week one when he spent Yeah, when he when the whole spit thing happened, or is that he probably knows we're just gonna we're gonna let the old boy be.

02:16:19
Speaker 10: He knew what he did. He knew immediately that what he did was wrong. But yeah, we we we went up and talked to him, like you can't be doing that obviously. But there was a time last year and I'm new, so I don't really know. JC is probably Game three or four. He does what he does and swims out of his gap to make a play. I get it, but I in the game in the moment, I'm like, you gotta be in your gap, like come on, And He's like, don't tell me how to play football, bro, And I'm like, hey, yeah, go ahead, Hey, I'll make you right.

02:16:50
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what, Jac, You're absolutely right. I should have been in your gap in that situation. I saw what you were doing there.

02:16:56
Speaker 4: Zeb trying to do some like leadership stuff like hey hey hey, come on, hey, I need you in this set. Do that. This is how it hurts the back end. Man, shut up. He'll teach me how to play football. Hey, big guy, that's on me. You're right, you know what.

02:17:09
Speaker 10: I really really good dude, though, really good dude, solid dude, great football.

02:17:13
Speaker 3: No it sounds like a terrifying dude, but a solid dude. Nonetheless, this is the guy, tam Yes, yeah, yeah, it's the guy.

02:17:21
Speaker 4: He's like, really good dude, Yes, as long as he's got my.

02:17:23
Speaker 3: Bright like as he's got my picture like Zach Bond and like five other guys that way over two to eighty walking up to j C being like you understand, like we probably shouldn't spit on guys, right, and just kind of like waiting to see how he handles.

02:17:36
Speaker 4: Or like when they're walking up to him, like hey, so ZB, you're going to say are you going to say the first like are you going to start the conversation?

02:17:42
Speaker 3: And yeah yeah, and then ZB walks up He's like, hey, man, Lane, wanted to tell you something real quick. I just want to let you know they just put Lane n Lane Johnson under the bus, like you got to handle this.

02:17:52
Speaker 10: It's the funniest thing is on like punt Safe when we leave our defense out there, just going up to the like the right guard and be like, hey, JC, that poor.

02:18:04
Speaker 4: Bastard's bucklet is just a little bit tight in there, right guard And I'm just hearing that, and he big dog like, you know we can yeah, yeah, And I promise you we're not We are not running up we'ren I swear to guy.

02:18:19
Speaker 3: Dude, one guy that brought up j C and like the hey you got this guy. Awesome guy, but definitely you don't want to get on his bad side. Big Dom was talking about him when we were at camp. You don't seem like the guy that Big Dom has to deal with all of the time. But how crucial is Big Dom to the Philadelphia Eagles.

02:18:38
Speaker 10: Big Dom is huge. He's got all the little insights on everyone. He knows what everyone around the building is doing, who they're talking to, who they're hanging out with. He's he's intertwined not only with the Eagles, but like the whole city. He's in there.

02:18:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down sopranos.

02:18:56
Speaker 10: I mean he might be, he might be not confirmed.

02:18:58
Speaker 3: Not confirmed. That is exactly he wants. He wants us guessing.

02:19:01
Speaker 4: It's one of those I feel like big Doms, like the noise could be super loud around the Eagles the locker room. It's like it's louder than it is in the locker room. But if you want to know something, you just go up like, hey, big Dom, do we have this? Is everything kind of figured out with so and so or between these guys and just kind of like a nod. Yeah, we gotta take Carol.

02:19:18
Speaker 3: Yeah. Dom's always a guy. It's gonna yeah, Yeah, I'm unhandling it. I'm handling it, no problem.

02:19:24
Speaker 4: Should we do a bud light question?

02:19:26
Speaker 6: Yeah?

02:19:27
Speaker 4: Like question, all right, Zach. People would do anything for an ice cold bud light, no doubt. Umm having a bud light with somebody who is somebody that you'd love to sit down and have an ice cold bud light with, whether it's past present, somebody that you just love to have a few beers with, some conversations, some fun, could be anybody, anybody.

02:19:51
Speaker 10: I'll keep it in the football world and I'll say Darren Rizzy, the special teams coordinator for the Broncos. Yeah, no shit, great dude, great dude, awesome dude. He was my coordinator with the Saints. Yeah. I would definitely have more than one bud light with him.

02:20:06
Speaker 4: Dude. He always had the vibes high. When I was again there for a couple of coffee. You go into the special teams meeting and that you guys would have shirts going on for plays that get made, and everybody seemed to love this dude. And then when he was the interim head coach, what was it a couple of years ago where he stepped in Yeah last year, Yeah, last year and out of the gate. I want to say the Saints. They ended up winning a couple of games with them.

02:20:29
Speaker 3: It always happens an interim head coach except for the Titan.

02:20:31
Speaker 10: Just a great dude, Just a great dude, especially.

02:20:33
Speaker 4: When it's a special teams coordinator too. So you two played together with the Saints. I don't know, if I don't know.

02:20:38
Speaker 10: Possibly I wasn't. I wasn't with you. I was like right after you, yeah, because you were you were there in twenty nineteen.

02:20:44
Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen was when I was there in training camp for a moment, I was ready to light the world on fire, but you know, I caught a little ankle.

02:20:50
Speaker 3: Spray, little ankle spray. Had to get that.

02:20:54
Speaker 10: Down.

02:20:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, They're like alex ads alone was down and they had I want to say, maybe a couple like inside backers that were down. So I ended up getting brought in around the third preseason game. Went into the fourth preseason game to get reps at like one base before we got ready for Week one because they needed a base mike backer basically essentially until Alexandzeloni's shoulder got right. And then I went down in that fourth preseason game. It which sucked because the vibes of the Saints seemed awesome, The locker room seemed the all time and Rizzy he was talking about like guys just everybody like that was a fun organization. For the moment I was there at practice was fun everything. Yeah, and uh then after that, I got a little injury settlement and then they that's when they traded for Keiko Alonso and then Alexanderloni comes back nights with the Lions, like playing some good ball, gotcha.

02:21:38
Speaker 10: But yeah, it seems like everyone that leaves the Saints is playing good ball right now? All right, everyone, everyone that leaves the Saints has a seat on their chest playing playing good football.

02:21:48
Speaker 3: Yeah.

02:21:48
Speaker 4: And then the old guard, the captains like Cam Jordan and the Mario Davis like they're still sticking around, and it's like, fuck boys, we've got to put some good ball together right now. We got our teeth have been cutting this organization for two all.

02:22:01
Speaker 10: No doubt about tough times down there, Zach.

02:22:04
Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming on the show man. This has been awesome. I can't wait for December when Will comes out with this all white, all black team. I'm assuming I.

02:22:11
Speaker 4: Don't do I'll do the other sides for everybody else.

02:22:13
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sorry, all white team, that's right. Yeah. I think the line right now, the futures line is minus what thirty one and a half?

02:22:22
Speaker 4: No, I don't think truly, I don't think it's that deep at all. I promise you we got a squad and we get better each and every year a new dB comes in the league.

02:22:30
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, do you think that's where you're light? Always? Department always?

02:22:34
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, one thousand percent. I mean, think of what other position group are we potentially light in like we're deep along the trenches. We got second level players. We got us you know, tight in. We got guys like a wide receiver. Surprisingly, we got some good depth there. Yeah, Pooka Nakoula. He hasn't said nothing over the last couple of years. So well I've been able to claim him and get away with it.

02:22:57
Speaker 10: That's that's that he's probably that is between the Paully's.

02:23:02
Speaker 3: The Paulis are fair game.

02:23:04
Speaker 4: I'm thinking Polly he was what a fifth round guy? Yeah, so that's e shinder type of grinder mentality.

02:23:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, ran a little slower, little slower forty like just put the tape on. He's got game speed. That's when you know that's our guy.

02:23:19
Speaker 4: You know, that's our goal. We gotta do is just filter, just filter this episode just a little bit more, because right now we got Zach. We got Zach ball.

02:23:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna come out. But Zach, how do you feel about this? And it's up to you to be standing here, to be on a plane under away game. Jac's gonna coach and be like, man, what's this about, dude?

02:23:37
Speaker 4: You got the ball ahead, you got a nice goate going on that screams, I got a Harley in the in the garage, right fun?

02:23:50
Speaker 10: Is your hair growing back little?

02:23:51
Speaker 4: I'll show you, Yeah, it's it's grown back pretty well. I do have kind of the m set and it's a little lighter in the cold de sac here. You could land a plane on it if you wanted to. But we're coming back pretty strong right now. In my opinion, I like it in my heads.

02:24:05
Speaker 10: Are you going to grow grow it out? Or was that like a test test to see if you had to shave it?

02:24:11
Speaker 4: My wife really wants me to grow it out. But I'll be honest, I really don't mind the short hair life, even the bald head. I didn't mind the bold head.

02:24:18
Speaker 3: Look.

02:24:18
Speaker 4: Would you think, like you're a fellow bald guy, Like, would you love me wrapping the bold squad?

02:24:22
Speaker 10: Absolutely, it's all about It's all about the head shape. Like if you've got a solid head shape, you can and facial hair you can, you can join.

02:24:29
Speaker 4: So you think I pull up the head shape, well.

02:24:32
Speaker 10: I think it's solid. Once you get a little tan up up top there, you'll be all right.

02:24:36
Speaker 4: That's the key. That's the key. You get some sunlight on it, dude, we appreciate you, man, Thank you for taking time on a Monday. Good luck this week, get fucking get your guys, revenge back, get the mojo going again. In the off season, we would absolutely love to have you on the bus so we can do a little bit more long form. We're not in the middle of the season. Yeah, a couple of things. We gotta, you know, you gotta kind of hey, we're having fun on the show, but also we're in the middle of the season. But we would love to have you on in Nashville in the offseason.

02:25:02
Speaker 10: Yeah, I gotta get down there have to be sick.

02:25:05
Speaker 4: Apprecire brother, appreciate everybody, give me one of plus.

02:25:09
Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, guys, I love that.

02:25:10
Speaker 4: Thank you.

02:25:11
Speaker 3: Broing on man, it is a pain in the ass to do this during the season, so it does mean a lot.

02:25:14
Speaker 10: Yeah, is this the first virtual one you guys have done.

02:25:18
Speaker 4: We've just started kind of doing virtuals. You're kind of he's like the first player that we've had after a game virtual. We've been trying to get like college coaches will hop on. We haven't gotten any NFL coach yet, but we've kind of pivoted to where we're gonna get some more virtual stuff just because people love talking football.

02:25:34
Speaker 3: Twenty four sevens Yeah this this season, it's either football or nothing. If we put anything else out there other than the football, they're like, get it out of here.

02:25:40
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're the first player, so we appreciate you.

02:25:43
Speaker 10: Yeah, you guys are killing it. Dude, I'm sorry I missed you during training camps.

02:25:46
Speaker 4: Oh you're good man, good good man, Thank you, brother of us.

02:25:49
Speaker 3: Appreciate you.

02:25:50
Speaker 4: Man.

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