2025-11-21- KSR - Hour 1

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Matt, Ryan, Drew, and Shannon discuss the issues plaguing Kentucky Basketball and take your calls live from Parlour Pizza in Lexington. 

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Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage.

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Speaker 3: Now here's Matt Jones.

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Speaker 4: Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 5: It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Friday, November the twenty first time Matt Jones here at Parlor Pizza right off of Harritsburg Road in what.

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Speaker 4: Would you call this shopping center? Right here? This is Turflin Turf former Turflind Mall shopping center on a rainy day. It's been raining for a week straight, but we are here. Great crowd at Parlor Pizza, which is has been claimed by many to be the best pizza place now in Lexington. Many location shenning in our for our home of Louisville, Kentucky. But now uh here in Lexington, and well it's where flavor meets fun.

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Speaker 2: Did you know that sounds fun to me? I can't wait to try the hot honey Pepperoni.

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Speaker 4: Hot honey Pepperoni pizza is here, and I'm sure a lot of the folks are gonna try that when we're here. They've got a breakfast pizza until then, and you can come and join us eight five nine two eight zero twenty two eighty seven on the Clark's Puppet Shop full line a vision auto glass text machine. They say, I say it too fast, so seven seven two seven seven four five two five four in this dish sponsored by a TJ. Smith office. If you call TJ, he'll make them pay. It's rainy and kind of disgusting and has been for a while, and I think it's gonna be this weekend, But nevertheless, this is our last dual football basketball weekend of the year. Ryan, football Season's almost over?

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Speaker 6: Are you sad?

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Speaker 4: It's indy?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 7: It's It's kind of weird how I have flipped. I am more looking forward to that football game tomorrow than I am the basketball game tonight. I probably wouldn't have said that a couple weeks ago. But I'm excited about the football game. You are, You're excited, Yeah, I mean you know it's gonna be tough. We're gonna be an underdog word touchdown underdog already. But just to see him on the court, on the field where they've played the last three games, I think Vandy maybe overlooking.

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Speaker 3: Us a little bit. I think we're a trap game for.

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Speaker 4: Vandy sold out, We're a trap game for.

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Speaker 3: Van He's trying to get into the playoffs. There's no trapping Gay to next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope we'd beat I honestly hope we beat Vandy, just to shut your smug mouth up. You have been You have been way too trash talking to be a Vanderbilt face. This is your last nerdy year of excitement that that football program will ever have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 4: Would love, just like I would love to shut up. Well, the Louisville people aren't bragging anymore, so now I think the thing left to do is shut up your pro tractor dork mouths down there.

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Speaker 3: And Nash, you're mistaking me for Diego Pavia. He's the one that talks off the track.

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Speaker 4: I don't consider him at dort Diego prove you all as I think Drew said, he must have taken online classes. That guy's not he is not a real Vandy.

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Speaker 3: Yea wait until it comes back eighth year.

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Speaker 4: Next year, he keeps suing, So he's the guy in the Walmart parking lot ten years after he graduates high school, cruising around. But Drew, I think we have a shot tomorrow. Maybe I'm just delusional, but why not.

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Speaker 6: I think we have a shot.

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Speaker 8: I'm actually expecting a rare shootout for Kentucky football game. I don't think they're gonna be able to stop Pavia, and we've seen that offense turn the quarter of the last three or four games, and I think we're gonna have a little bit of a bowy Pavia shootout down.

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Speaker 6: And now I actually do too.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking. I'm with Ryan. I'm looking for the game too. We are here at Parlor Pizza, where there is pizza if you, I would hope if you come and join us, you can come sit with some of your KSR fans order food. I've been asked a lot, Ryan, I want to make something clear. I've been asked a lot. Have we forgotten the Ryan has to eat out by himself. We have not. It's been really a travel circumstance. I have not been here and the next week, of course Thanksgiving. I'm now maybe targeting the week after Thanksgiving. But I want you to know you're you're not out of doing that. I know you thought if you didn't mention it, nobody would, but you're not out of the week of going and eating by yourself.

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Speaker 7: I really thought it was gonna be one of those Matt Jones ideas like the camp out the Waddi Werewolf twenty four hours of Ryan Radio. I thought this was gonna just kind of slide in that ether and then we all.

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Speaker 3: Forget about it. It still could. Don't worry, it's not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let it because I have people reminding me. They want to see you be alone for a period of time. So I just want people to know we have not forgotten it, and I want you to maybe you can get some practice this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Well I did have a little practice last night.

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Speaker 7: Yoga girl had something to do, so I went to the opening of the Festival of Lights at Appleby's Football Park.

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Speaker 4: I saw that what was that.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, like they've got the Christmas light that the horse park you have to drive through. This is similar, but you walk through it. You park and you walk through the ballpark. It's really kind of cool. But I had to eat by myself. There a lot of people around.

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Speaker 3: I still ate by myself.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 6: You go to the holiday show by yourself, that's.

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Speaker 3: Much worse thing.

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Speaker 7: I went to the holiday show by myself, by my walk through the thing by myself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that counts.

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Speaker 3: There's one down.

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Speaker 4: No, that doesn't count. But that is sad in its own way. That's much worse than going to dinner. Well, it's better. I went to dinner at a restaurant and ended up shating with the dude screaming at me the whole time, and which was it? Which that's people, that's a rare experience. But there was a drunk guy at the bar just screaming my jones and then he would laugh like he had said the funniest thing in the world, and then he just got and then he waited a few couple of minutes he go mad, yeah, and then he would.

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Speaker 2: Just sounds like a pleasant experience. Did you at least take his picture?

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Speaker 4: No? I mean I contemplated. I sit there and go, okay, because there's like an angel and a devil on my shoulders.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 4: There's like my mom going, don't give him the time of day, this that you would just be acknowledging him by like and my mom is right. And then there's the devil going, I want to embarrass this dude and maybe take his picture. And but I ended up. I let it, I let my mom went out, and I just I left. And so what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: You're just to that level now where you can't even go out in public without getting.

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Speaker 4: It's totally fine. I don't know, man, I don't know why this guy he was particularly rude. But nevertheless, we're here here today and like I said, due weekend, basketball tonight, football tomorrow. One of the things I was gonna ask is which one you're more excited about? Ryan? Is clear it's football for me. It's football. Does is anybody basketball?

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Speaker 6: I basketball?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I am excited about football, but I'm just looking at what's in front of me.

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Speaker 6: I'll get to football in the morning.

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Speaker 8: I know we won't get any questions answered tonight, but I just I need a good taste in my mouth. I need some joy around Kentucky basketball, assuming this is a blowout. I just need to smile again with that team in rupper.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we had to. They had to pope press conference after it was over. I think really two or three noteworthy things about it. Uh One, he basically said, you know, and this is gonna be my last time bringing it up because I do think fans are kind of exhausted of it. But it is worth noting. He tried to close the book on the Louisville thing by saying it was nothing, which you know, I don't believe you. I don't believe him either. I'm gonna be honest. I love you, Mark, I don't believe you. You don't bring something like that up and then go we're gonna tease Taylor Swift. Lets you think about it, and then go, hey, why are you all wondering about it? But with what's going on? Like he started that, it's fine. It is what it is. I do think it's not productive for it to keep being brought up. But that's on him. That's a that's a screw up on his on his part. Second thing, he said, though, and I do think this is a little different and important is he said there are no chemistry issues on the team. He was like all the talk out there about them not liking each other, et cetera. He said that is not true. Now, my my inclination is gonna be to believe him. But then I don't know, what do you think about that.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of coach say we have chemistry issues?

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Speaker 3: Are you say? What else would you expect him to say? And like you said, I don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing to it because if there was nothing to it, why bring it up at all in the first place.

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Speaker 3: Yep, So clearly they want to be fair.

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Speaker 4: He didn't bring up that they had chemistry. Is so you brought up that something happened the fans have created And I'm not saying the fans are wrong, right, I'm just saying the sort of rumors about chemistry are like people like us watching their body language, right, and then fans these kind of stories. My thought about chemistry, Drew has always just been watching them on the court. They don't look like a group of guys who kind of love each other. I mean, that could be wrong, but that's what it's looked. That's where mine come from.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm the same way, and we have multiple friends that are at that game in New York. It's just not what's on TV. They're just looking at them. They're looking at Michigan State, a team that's playing for each other, and they're looking at Kentucky, a team that wasn't. And so we've been on there's been times there's been an open guy and he doesn't pass it. You know what, That could be nothing, but it's just from a basketball standpoint, there's no chemistry. And then I worry about even the team liking each other. But they're not a cohesive unit right now. There's no debating that. Whatever is going on.

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Speaker 4: There were I talk to two new people that were sitting Ryan like court side in two different places, and they both had essentially the same art thing. They were like, there's apparently an incident where Brandon Garrison and some teammates yelled at each other, not like in a fighting way, but in a arguing way. But the bigger thing was they just they were like, they don't communicate, they don't seem to talk. And then I heard some like Mark Pope sort of being a level of upset. You don't see a lot I mean, I don't think you can act like things are rosy right now, whatever the case is, I don't think they're rosy.

00:09:37
Speaker 7: We can all look, I mean, we're basketball beanies.

00:09:39
Speaker 3: We can all look.

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Speaker 7: Something is off, something is just a little off. And I think it's a combination of everything you said. Maybe Pope is backed out of character, Maybe they had a little issue in the locker room. Maybe they're being a little selfish on the court. Maybe losing Jalen Lowe's put them into a tailspan. I think it's kind of maybe a combination of all that.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about a couple other things from it. First of all, he said that Brandon Garrison is the second most efficient player on the team right now, which I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't think.

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Speaker 4: I'm a numbers guy, Like I'm a big believer in if the numbers say it, the numbers say it. Like I sometimes I don't like when people argue with numbers because I'm like, numbers are objective. I don't know if these numbers are objective. You know, maybe if you include the games against the bad teams he's done really well against then. But he was very adamant, look, Brandon Garrison is the second most efficient guy. He's done a lot better than people realize. So I don't think this is a guy drew that he's gonna be out of starting lineup soon.

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Speaker 8: No, and this is the Pope speaker we knew we're gonna get. Everything is always perfect and rosie. Like someone asked about Brandon Garrison. You can say he's not playing as well as we need him, and he needs to get his button gear, but he's spun it to Hope, but his efficiency numbers like at some point we can be a little negative. We have eyeballs, like, let's call it like we see it. We don't have to put a positive, beautiful, extraordinary spin on literally everything.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So with that point I had, if some people write me last night, you tell tell me if what your thought is on this and say that they feel like you are. They said turning. I don't believe you're turning on Pope, but that you have like a lot of negativity about the pope experience.

00:11:12
Speaker 6: Right, Yes, would you agree with that? Hell? Yes?

00:11:14
Speaker 9: Did you watch the last two games? My god, we were down by twenty in our only two meaningful game.

00:11:20
Speaker 8: I'm not saying fire the guy and I still think it can get corrected, but I'm not going to act like that was a fun eight days we just went through at all.

00:11:27
Speaker 6: And I'm also annoying.

00:11:28
Speaker 9: You don't usually get like this, well, I mean, this is not We also don't go down by twenty four to Louisville like, let's it's strictly basketball, and then acting like it's fine when it's not.

00:11:39
Speaker 8: It can get fine. This is all just me reacting to the last eight days. But my other bit complaint. He keeps saying we flipped the switch too early? Why are we flipping switches for Marquee games? Like shouldn't they already.

00:11:50
Speaker 6: Know this is Louisville? Like why is there a literal switch?

00:11:53
Speaker 2: Right?

00:11:53
Speaker 8: All right, guys, let's get ready now. No, they should have been ready weeks ago. But you also don't want to hear flip switch again.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just you know, for for long time listeners of this show, I think they know, like they know all of our personalities, and this is a lot more worked up than you usually get.

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Speaker 8: Okay, let me remind you all we were down by twenty in the only two games that have mattered.

00:12:17
Speaker 4: All right, I'm not I'm not saying about wrong. I'm not saying that, but you would agree this is not a.

00:12:23
Speaker 8: Normal Drew rykay, when it's not normal being down by twenty Drew's got Pope fatigue?

00:12:30
Speaker 4: Already sounds like that a little bit, it does, you know? I think the listeners that were reacting, I mean, does do you have Pope fatigue?

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Speaker 8: It's not Pope specific. I don't know if I'm not making my point. We've played two games and at the tip we weren't in. You're making your point, but like, I can't act like that's fine. We don't do that at Kentucky. We've never done that again. When have we be been down by twenty to Louisville?

00:12:56
Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 8: Exactly, So, yes, that's what I'm reacting to. Yeah, I mean be and Poper good. I wish we'd stop flipping switches and it's beautiful, right, you all speculate I'm down. I'm tired of being down by twenty.

00:13:09
Speaker 7: It was quite embarrassing when Michigan State puts their walk on and at the end of the game because they're beating us so bad.

00:13:14
Speaker 6: Exactly when does that happen?

00:13:15
Speaker 10: That?

00:13:15
Speaker 4: Was it ever happened? Very very rarely?

00:13:18
Speaker 3: Well, I am.

00:13:21
Speaker 4: I am concerned not so much about Mark or the state of I'm concerned that this team is just not very good. And that's what worries me is that I'm sitting there looking and I think that text message I got that sort of looked. I had this inclination back in July. But my saving grace was that Jayalen Lowe I thought was going to be a star. But it just if I just wonder if we just don't have enough good guys. I mean, Rick Patino said yesterday, and I thought this was a really interesting comment and maybe we'll talk about it later. Rick said college basketball is better right now than it's been in twenty five years. And I think that's right. I think a lot of people like to complain about NIL, and I think NIL has had some negative effects on football, but when it comes to basketball, the quality of play is better. Now. You got guys staying longer. Thing everybody wanted. Everybody wanted to may people stay a long. Well, now they're staying longer. You got foreign players coming in that could have been pros, and in some cases we're pros and they're now coming in. The freshmen are now skipping G League and overtime they're coming. This is more talent in college basketball than has existed. And if you watch some of these other games, like even last night, Wake Forest played Texas Tech and it was a great game, And you watch these games, and then I go, are guys good enough for this?

00:14:42
Speaker 3: Like I got I see you.

00:14:43
Speaker 4: Illinoise got like five guys who can take people off the dribble and score and hit threes. And I'm like, I mean, are we good enough? I don't know? And so that that's what kind of worries me is did we accident? Did we sort of stack a team of role players with two stars that are hurt and a third guy in no way that's just not.

00:15:05
Speaker 3: Doing his thing.

00:15:06
Speaker 4: I don't know.

00:15:07
Speaker 3: We're gonna find out.

00:15:08
Speaker 2: I got a tough slot of hate Saint John's, North Carolina and Zaga.

00:15:13
Speaker 4: That's kind of what worries me. If I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven. We are here at Parlor Pizza Ryan Lemon, who soon will be eating by himself, worked up Drew Franklin in a regular shade in the dude, be right back this Parlor Pizza. No, this is kosr Water back of this Kentucky Sports Radio. If I'm nine, twenty two eighty seven, it is fascinating for me to read the text machine and read fans reactions. First of all, it seems like a lot of people agree with Drew.

00:15:41
Speaker 6: You call me Frank today.

00:15:43
Speaker 4: I was about to say, well, that's what says Frank is this Frank Franklin. Frank's here at He's a nice legacy from the Caliperio. What's what's funny though, to me, is there are, in literally back to back text Shannon, there are people that complain that KSR and is both too negative and too sunshine pumps oh really, which really just means that for those people, they just want you to reflect whatever their opinion is. I just want to hear it right back. Whatever my opinion is, is the right opinion, give it back to me. I am. I am surprised. I'm both surprised and not surprised. We're struggling. I'm surprised we're struggling by so much. I didn't think Mark Pope teens would lose by this amount of points to teams. But I am not surprised that with otaga Oway not playing well, Ryan, we're struggling so much because I still I said all year, we're only gonna be good if Jaalen Lowe's good and we don't have Low and Otaga has struggled. Now we had some good news I think about low yesterday, Yes we did, which is Pope said essentially, we're gonna work and we're gonna try to give it another go or something like that. So that says to me he hasn't given up on the season, which I assumed he would have to be honest. So I heard that as he's gonna try to play again and that's good. Is that how you heard it? That's exactly how I heard it.

00:16:59
Speaker 3: I think we all heard.

00:17:00
Speaker 7: For the Michigan State game, that was the other way he was leaning towards surgery. Maybe that game kind of made him want to come back and help the team. He saw how pitiful they were without.

00:17:09
Speaker 3: Him, they were.

00:17:11
Speaker 7: You know, he makes a difference the minute he walks on the on the court, he just you know, the offense just runs better, more efficient. But even without without him, Otega is still the key man. He has got to snap out of this.

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Speaker 4: But I think he turned some of those role players drew into really good players, like a guy who's a who's a third option. It's harder for him if he's the second option. But if he gets to be the third option, right, So Denzel Aberdeen is the dude you're leaving open to guard old Way and Low. Okay, now wait a minute, but if we're all standing around waiting on Denzel Aberdeen to score, I don't know. So like at Florida, he got to be that guy because Walter Clayton and those guys were getting and he got to kind of be the the third fourth option. Maybe all these guys are meant for a role that with Low out and no Way not playing well, they.

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Speaker 8: Don't get to do Yeah, and uh, you know, I know, we got used to the one and done and guys just are what they are. But guys are supposed to get better each year. And I know a lot of these were just role players, but when you lock them in, you're hoping they get better. And two of the starters have not only not gotten better, they seem to have gotten worse. And that is a huge problem.

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Speaker 4: That's a really good point about this. We got so used to one and done that like whatever we saw, that's just what they were. Guys get better look at college like colin a way is a perfect I don't know what Away was like as a freshman, but he wasn't probably what he is. So you know, I will say that Jamal Mashburn and then we'll we'll we'll move on. Jamal Mashburn was on a different game last night and he's sitting with it. I mean, there's a lot of people in Kentucky connections. Adam Lefko is the host, used to be in Louisville. Uh, Mashburn's on there, Bruce Pearl's on there, Jalen Rose and his steak hair are on there, and uh and they and Mashburn said they're not playing like wildcats. They're a team that with a bunch of kiddies and basically said, you need a dude. That was when Mashburn was saying you need a dude. And he was like, none of these guys look like a dude. That's kind of what we've been saying, Ryan. But it was interesting here Mashburn, who was certainly a dude in his day, he say that.

00:19:14
Speaker 7: So the optimistic Kentucky fan might say, Matt, the calendar does still say November.

00:19:20
Speaker 3: There's plenty of time it.

00:19:21
Speaker 6: Turns out, who's the dude?

00:19:22
Speaker 4: If Jalen low doesn't let's I mean, if we're being this is why I'm worried. If Jalen low doesn't come back, who's the dude?

00:19:31
Speaker 3: It's got to be Otega man. Don't you think it's gotta be?

00:19:33
Speaker 4: And I don't know, Maybe it's I don't know.

00:19:36
Speaker 2: If he's a guy, you know, and Jayden Quainton's comes back, can he be that guy?

00:19:40
Speaker 4: Maybe?

00:19:40
Speaker 6: So maybe he'll certainly help defensively in rebounds.

00:19:43
Speaker 4: He will help with that a lot.

00:19:45
Speaker 2: You know, assuming Jaylen Lowe will come back, and that's a big assumption. But if he does, and if Quaintan's you know, recovers, I want to see what this team looks like, fully healthy, then I'll judge the team. I'm gonna reserve my judgment until that happens.

00:19:57
Speaker 4: I will too, if you promise me they'll be full healthy. We haven't seen jan and Quaint's play a game yet, right, and we don't know about Jaylen Lowe. So we'll see who's up first. If I'm nine to twenty eighty seven, Adam, Adam, go ahead, Adam, go ahead, Adam, or don't Who's next, Brin, Brin, go ahead, Brent.

00:20:18
Speaker 11: Hey Man, thank you for taking my call. I was listening to Jack last night on his Sources Say, and he was talking about Marks Mark Pope's inability to read the room like with a fan base in his postgame press conferences, and then he went into how this is how this is affecting recruiting, and he gets you know, like some examples about like how it's carrying over like into the recruiting area.

00:20:47
Speaker 12: And I was wondering if you had.

00:20:48
Speaker 11: Heard anything like that, I'll hang out and listen.

00:20:51
Speaker 12: Thank you.

00:20:51
Speaker 4: Well I have not. I mean, Jack, Jack, I don't do like I don't talk to high school kids or coaches anymore, so I can't. Jack would know that a lot better than mine than me. You know, there's always been this question about, well, how does Mark relate to players, et cetera. Is there because you know, I mean, he's shandon kind of a corny guy, like how does how does that work? My view has always been judging by what he brings in. Now we haven't brought in a superstar yet, and so you do wonder about that. So I can't say about the recruiting thing. I still think Ryan fans still really loved the guy, and I think he's done a really good job of reading the room except the last eight or ten days. So I don't want to just say, like make these grand pronouncements that he doesn't know how to talk to fans. I just think he's had a bad couple of weeks.

00:21:45
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we talked about that whole Louisville pregame incident. He's one and initiated that.

00:21:50
Speaker 3: He brought it up to us.

00:21:51
Speaker 7: We would probably never know anything ever happened, But he didn't even say anything. I think he's too honest to a fault sometimes and maybe he's kind of learning by fire that maybe there some things that need to stay in.

00:22:01
Speaker 3: The locker room. You should know that though he played here he puts this bas.

00:22:04
Speaker 4: But you also can just have a bad week. You can.

00:22:06
Speaker 6: You know, you can just have a bad week.

00:22:08
Speaker 4: Sometimes you're grumpy.

00:22:09
Speaker 11: You know.

00:22:10
Speaker 4: Sometimes I walk out of the show and go, eh, I don't know if that's what I wanted to say, you know, And he he only gets ten minutes in front of us three times, right, so you know, maybe just had bad days. We'll see the problem is we're not gonna know anything else till we play somebody Good and it's two weeks and it's two weeks away until we do. We'll take a break here a Parlor Pizza. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. TJ Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ.

00:22:36
Speaker 3: He'll make them.

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00:22:41
Speaker 4: Here's Matt walk them back Tucky Sports Radio. Liam, you do a good job with the music selection. I do have to say. I mean, like you know, you're not You're no Shannon, but you do. You do a good job with the music selection. And Liam, I do appreciate it when you're there.

00:22:55
Speaker 3: I try to play it gets the people going, you know, well.

00:22:57
Speaker 4: I know if it gets people going, but you get it's me going.

00:23:01
Speaker 3: But I just like you do it.

00:23:02
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00:23:40
Speaker 6: Have it for the Arkansas game. I'll be here eight.

00:23:42
Speaker 4: Five nine two eight zero twenty two eighty seven. I don't want to make this all like you know, complaining, so I also want to talk about a couple other things. They got a question for you, right all right's go. The guy that's in charge of the transportation department. His name is Sean Duffy. He was on the Real World or road rue are one of those, so he's perfect to run the transportation department. He he did an interview and he said a bunch of things about the holiday travel seas. But one thing he said is he is he thinks people should dress up more when they go on planes. He said that if everyone dressed up more when we went on planes, it would be a better experience. Now, I know, back in the day, like you would see those pictures in like the fifties and sixties, people would wear suits or they would dress up and they would look really uh you know, it would look like it would look like they're going to church when they go on planes. Of course, now people like look like they just woke up going on planes. You like to fly sprint to a lot of places. Do you think that that would be spirit Do you think it would be better for people to dress up and then if they if they, if you did, will you dress up to go on plane?

00:24:49
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

00:24:50
Speaker 7: I mean where else in our lives are we crammed into a metal cylinder where you're sitting in the middle roll and you're trying to find a place just to lay back and put your and put your elbows.

00:25:01
Speaker 3: You want to be comfortable.

00:25:02
Speaker 7: Man, I'm wearing sweats and a hoodie and flip flopped and I'm being comfortable.

00:25:06
Speaker 4: But do you think if people dressed up it would be like everybody'd be more polite and civilized and it would be a better experience for everyone.

00:25:13
Speaker 3: No, make me more uncomfortable.

00:25:16
Speaker 4: It's for you, especially because you don't ever dress out, no anything, what about you?

00:25:22
Speaker 1: No?

00:25:22
Speaker 8: I mean, actually I like when I see it's usually someone a little older. They're there and they're in like a full suit. I have like a briefcase. It's kind of sweet when I see that, but I'm not doing it. I'm usually taking the first flight in the morning. I usually roll out of bed and crawl into an uber and get to the airport.

00:25:37
Speaker 4: I see all those pictures channing from like the fifties and sixties when people did dress up, And I don't know when that changed, because I can't think of a time in my lifetime that I've ever seen in people not just look terrible on a plane. So when did that change?

00:25:52
Speaker 2: Because you know, with the hippies and the sixties, probably think it was they traded out of their suits for ty die And you know.

00:25:58
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that I'm the best person to because I wear a hoodie almost every day. But like, but like I've talked about, I don't like churches now. I don't like the whole where jeans to church thing that, But but I don't consider planes like that to me. Planes, I don't know if me wearing a suit's gonna make anything better. It's just gonna give me a wrinkle jacket.

00:26:17
Speaker 2: Exactly, gonna make you more uncomfortable, and if you're traveling, I'm all about comfort. I really don't care how I look. I'm there for the comfort.

00:26:23
Speaker 4: So you don't think that's gonna change. I think that will ever change anytime.

00:26:27
Speaker 6: Well that was I didn't know the road rules guys are transportation.

00:26:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, is Sean Duffy he married? I think he married a woman from road rules or excuse me, from real world. It was a road rules real world marriage.

00:26:40
Speaker 6: The challenge was a challenge marriage.

00:26:41
Speaker 4: They did. They married together. She his wife, was on the one with Puck eating the guy's peanut butter. Okay, that's back when I used to watch You Have Me Too. It's been all over the road. I guess it makes sense. That's true. He traveled. He's perfect for the transportation department. Who's up next?

00:26:56
Speaker 6: Otis?

00:26:57
Speaker 4: Otis, go ahead, otis?

00:27:00
Speaker 12: How you gentlemen doing.

00:27:00
Speaker 6: I know you're doing well.

00:27:01
Speaker 12: I'm not going to ask that retort question.

00:27:03
Speaker 4: I haven't heard from you in a long time. O this, so I want you to get that engine rammed and start talking fast.

00:27:09
Speaker 12: All right, man, I just got two concerns. I'm a little concerned about Mark Pope. The last I want to say, dating back to the tournament, the last big, big game, not the little game. He has got blown out Tennessee, Georgetown, Louisville, and of course this last one. So I'm a little concerned about that situation. I hope he can get that rectified. And my main concern is with oh way, I'm thinking in my mind, this is my you know, I'm really injected, and this is my opinion. I'm thinking, in my mind, he thought he should have went to the draft and should be in the NBA. He didn't want to come back to college because you guys, think about it. He waded it to the last second to declare he's coming back. But in my mind, he thought he probably was a better prospect than the Mart Butler and some of the other guys that got drafted. So he's stuck in limbo, like, man, I want to be here, but I don't want to be here. I want to be here for the money, but at the same time, I want to go on to my start my career. So what do you I want to hang up and get you a pin on that thank you guys holiday and look forward to you.

00:27:58
Speaker 4: Here's my secret for fans when you talk about wanting to be in the NBA. Here's a little secret. Every single guy wants to be in the NBA, every one of them, every single one of them, all of them. So I don't care. Think about Reed Shepherd. Do you remember how everybody go read Shepherd's from Kentucky and he loves his place and he'll want it. Like when he had a chance to go to the NBA, what do he do to the NBA? To the NBA. I mean, all these guys want to go to the NBA. So I'm not gonna hold it against Oway that he wanted to go to the NBA. Right, We've had guys wait till last minute, come back the next year and be great, you know.

00:28:31
Speaker 6: So Keith Bogan's a perfect example.

00:28:32
Speaker 4: Tried to go to the NBA twice, got turned down twice, came back his senior year and had one of the best years for UK in the last twenty five years. So that, to me, Ryan is not an excuse for him playing bad. Is he wanted to be in the NBA. All these guys wanted to be in the NBA. You know, Jay Long went through the process as well. He wasn't picked, but I mean like or he wasn't gonna be selected, but they all want to be in the NBA.

00:28:54
Speaker 7: It's like last year they played with like a chip on his shoulder, like I have something to prove that I do belong here, do an NBA prospect.

00:29:02
Speaker 3: This year, it seems like that's missing.

00:29:04
Speaker 7: And I don't know what between these years right now, if he's just so concentrating on what the NBA scouts told him that you got to become a ned three point shooter if you're ever going to play in this league, and he think that's what I have to do, come out and shoot seven eight threes a game.

00:29:16
Speaker 4: I think it's a combination of that Drew and then there's a combination of the thing he was good at. It is hard for him because we're not making shots, we're not spacing the floor and the lanes he got last year. Excuse me, he's not getting And don't forget Amari Williams used to be at the top of the key leading the offense, and Brandon Garrison doesn't do quite the same job at that maybe as Amari Williams did.

00:29:38
Speaker 8: And he had more shooters around him. I think that's a very big problem for Away right now. I actually went back and watched his highlights the other day, and he would get the ball and the second it touched his hands, no hesitation, I'm going to the rim and he was finishing. I don't know that he's done that once this year. I mean he's attacked, but there's been some delay. We passing around the perimeter. You take a shot, I'll take a shot. He seems like a completely different player. And I get the caller's point, but almost flip it the other way. I watched Oway in the combine. He was playing really well.

00:30:04
Speaker 6: He should see Nichols in Eastern Illinois and be like, I Am going to kill these guys. And he doesn't have that attitude.

00:30:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, he hasn't had he said twelve or fourteen points, but we probably need him tap twenty or twenty two, like you were reading some of his box scores at the end of last year. Who's next? Kenji? Kenji?

00:30:19
Speaker 10: Go ahead, Hey guys, I'm thanks for taking my call. First off, I heard you all talking about more talent in college nowadays. Do you feel like, why do you think we missing out on that talent? Hopefully we can get a guy like Tyron Stoves. And then secondly, i'd like to say, how do you all feel about maybe moving and I love Colin chan On the first of all, maybe moving him to second stringy and bringing in Jasper at the Star because I think that Colin will give us a boost off second srinkle of second string as a struggling well.

00:30:49
Speaker 4: I mean, if we don't have Colin, then I wonder who's gonna make a shot. I think you do that We've just made our shooting even worse than it was before. I'm still starting Colin Chandler at least at this point. You know, if you're just asking who deserves to be benched of the starters, it be Oway. I mean, if we're being real, if you want to take two starters that deserve to be bench and be Oway and Garrison, and then you'd start Johnson and moreno the freshman, so I would not take out Colin Chandler. I appreciate the call. Now, why aren't we getting the top guys? It's an interesting question, it is. I mean, so you look at recruiting right now, we have yet to get a top guy, not from the state of Kentucky. We've yet to do it. And that's an issue, especially this year in a class where his freshmen are really good.

00:31:38
Speaker 6: Like, there's some really good freshmen.

00:31:39
Speaker 4: AJ Devons at v y U, Caleb Wilson at at North Carolina, Darren Peterson at Kansas, but Cameron Boozer at Duke, the kid out at Arizona whose name I forget, but he's been, he's been, He's he's been really good. I mean, there's been all these dudes really playing. Then you go back last year to the portal. Donovan Dent, probably the number one player in the ended up not getting him. The kid that went to Michigan, yack Sole whatever, ended up not getting me. We did get Jayalen Lowe, but he was kind of our second choice at point guard. There's a lot of guys. The guy Ryan called incorrectly Lamar Wilkinson. Why do you think when it comes we've gotten a ton of really good players, But why do you think we haven't gotten the great player yet under Pope?

00:32:28
Speaker 7: I don't know, I g it's a question we can't answer. That's why these these like you mentioned other day, there's these three top freshmen. Kentucky's got to get one of those three guys, or the perception that he can't get anybody.

00:32:38
Speaker 3: It's just gonna grow.

00:32:39
Speaker 6: Well, let's use that.

00:32:40
Speaker 4: I mean, we are kinda very we're either one or two with like three of the top twelve players in the country. But like all the other non players signed with their schools, why are the three we want? Why aren't they coming?

00:32:57
Speaker 1: Like?

00:32:58
Speaker 4: Why is it all the other guys teams are getting their guy locked up Drew and we're not like why that's that doesn't make sense.

00:33:06
Speaker 8: No, And it could be Pope's personality. But one thing I thought the moment he took the job is he does not play anyone over thirty minutes a game. We see it so last year, we're seeing it now. He wants to play ten deep. And if you're a five star, number one Stokes, either number two, number three, you're gonna get thirty to thirty five minutes wherever you go. And whatever he's doing in the living room is what he's saying. I think just the way he shows he doesn't give people the minutes and let them kind of be the guy.

00:33:33
Speaker 6: That's what Jack Pilgrim picks it is.

00:33:34
Speaker 8: I mean Jack Pergram the moment he took the job, because at BYU everybody played about the same minutes in the twenties.

00:33:40
Speaker 2: I think Mark Pope is too nice, too honest to open and say what you want about Caliperry. He was a great salesman, I don't I don't see that in here.

00:33:47
Speaker 4: So what's interesting though, He's also he's not playing some of those freshmen this year, and then he just lost two guys that they thought they were gonna get. Yeah, last day. I mean, he had a kid flipped from Arkansas to Maryland on the last that didn't used to happen.

00:34:01
Speaker 3: So I wonder if it's just fundamentally a different.

00:34:04
Speaker 4: Game and we haven't adapted yet.

00:34:06
Speaker 3: Because of money. We got the money.

00:34:08
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're using us to get more money from other people.

00:34:11
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00:35:11
Speaker 4: We will take a break and be right back here at Parlor Pizza. This is KSR. Welcome back in this Kentucky Sports Radio eight. I'm nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven here at Parlor Pizza, best pizza in Lexington, and folks are starting to order the hot honey pepperoni. Is that right?

00:35:29
Speaker 3: That's right?

00:35:29
Speaker 6: Yep.

00:35:29
Speaker 3: These wings look amazing. I can't wait to try one of those.

00:35:32
Speaker 4: Looking forward to uh to try it? One person rights, Matt, I'm for Frank Franklin. Uh I think instead of playing paying eleven or twelve guys and being deep, we should pay six or seven dudes and then have role players that you know. I mean, we'll find out. Maybe that is the strategy. I don't know. I mean, but then we did that last year. Then people got hurt and we were going, hey, wish we had more players. I mean, remember when we parted the issue last year as we were playing Travis Perry and we're like, oh, now we're not good enough. So I don't know. I mean, I think whatever you do, the injuries can the greatest plans of mice and men, Uh what is it? Best laid plans of mice and men may not matter if you get hurt.

00:36:15
Speaker 7: You know, We've always said you can judge a team of how many NBA guys they got. We have none that that does you right there at the talent level.

00:36:22
Speaker 4: I mean, we will have one when Jayden Quainton's plays, but he's not playing right now. But right now on the court tonight, we will not have one NBA player playing. There might be guys who develop in the NBA players, but there are no NBA players right now playing. And by the way, there were no NBA players on the team last year like real ones. I'm not saying those guys can't make the league and play, but right consistently making the league and being a we didn't have him last year, we don't have him this year, Drew. It's just how it is.

00:36:49
Speaker 8: And I, as you said, with the freshman, I think this college basketball season is gonna be pretty unique with how many stars there are, even some transfer portal guys like Hagerty who we could have gone after. And you have like forty for Kansas State last night and just doing whatever he wanted.

00:37:02
Speaker 4: Do you remember the guy's name, what was it, Magoon Guathe or whatever from San Diego State? He had twenty four in his last game, and if you watch it, you go, oh, he would have been nice. So but maybe those guys will end up showing up for us as we go. If I'm nine two eight oho twenty two eighty seven, I have a question for you, Ryan, Okay, Jenny Bust do you know who Jenny Buss.

00:37:26
Speaker 3: Is, owner of the Lakers.

00:37:27
Speaker 4: Owner of the Lakers. Yesterday she fired her two brothers as the head of scouting for the Lakers. So her two brothers, Joey and Jesse, had kind of been running the Lakers scouting department, and she got rid of them and said, it was nice having you here, brothers, but get out now. Presumably they all sort of owned the team together, but she runs it. I don't know if dad. I guess Dad selected her and said cause I think in their TV show the two brothers were both idiots. She so she they select the one. But do you think you could fire your brother from the team that you all own together.

00:38:08
Speaker 7: It's gonna make for a very awkward Thanksgiving next week when they sit down and across the table and there's your two brothers and you fired both of them. I don't I could maybe fire him, but I would reassign him to a different position, you know, like let's let's move you down to a to what head of custodial services or something.

00:38:25
Speaker 6: Here's what I think that's worse.

00:38:26
Speaker 4: I think that that is definitely worse.

00:38:29
Speaker 3: At least you're still employed, that's right.

00:38:30
Speaker 4: Could you fire your brother absolutely?

00:38:32
Speaker 8: I mean, if I own a coffee shop, he's the barista. No, you own the Lakers, They're gonna be all right. Like, let's find someone who can run this ship. I mean, there are million billionaires sorry, brothers, you had fun playing Scout, go do something else.

00:38:45
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go if your mark stoops, Can you fire your brother Mike?

00:38:48
Speaker 6: Yes?

00:38:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never would have hired thee to begin with. That's about the thing. I wouldn't have been in that situation.

00:38:54
Speaker 4: I mean, you all are acting all hardcore. I've seen you all go above and beyond for I've seen all of you guys go above and beyond for family members.

00:39:06
Speaker 3: It's easy the Lakers.

00:39:09
Speaker 4: It is theoretically possible to to fire family, but it's another thing Ryan to do it. Like, I can't see you firing you. You can talk all the trash you want, but I have no I've seen your relationship with your brother. It is hard for me to see you fire in your brother.

00:39:26
Speaker 3: That's I would just reassign him.

00:39:28
Speaker 4: I'm just like, but what if he doesn't want to be reassigned, Well.

00:39:30
Speaker 7: Then I'm gonna make him be reassigned. So you're gonna fire, Well, so you gotta you have to move into the custodial service. The custodial services, But like, do you like there's some cushy job in the front office.

00:39:40
Speaker 3: I'm sure he would like that.

00:39:41
Speaker 7: He's stilling getting benefits getting No, he is upset, No, only if you reassign him.

00:39:46
Speaker 3: I would reassign my guy.

00:39:49
Speaker 4: I'm telling you he's upset right now.

00:39:52
Speaker 3: He doesn't my brother.

00:39:53
Speaker 4: Yes, in my hypothetical, he does not want to be reassigned.

00:39:56
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's that or nothing. You can't always do what you want.

00:40:00
Speaker 4: Is your brother's name Chad?

00:40:01
Speaker 3: Yeah?

00:40:01
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I I thought you were just making up a name and saying your brother was Chad. Right.

00:40:07
Speaker 6: So I'm a casual Cowboys fan. They need to do this too.

00:40:10
Speaker 8: I love that you all like having your family operations. These are billion dollar businesses you're dealing. This isn't This is even completely different than stoops and stoops. I'm when I'm thinking, you own the Lakers. Yes, get out here, go find a hobby, like we need to actually win and have the best of the best year.

00:40:24
Speaker 4: You all would not have good family meals after that, but.

00:40:27
Speaker 3: We would have a good team.

00:40:28
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and we would.

00:40:29
Speaker 6: Make more money.

00:40:30
Speaker 4: It's tied to me. They did it because the Lakers are better this year than they've been in a long time, which seems like a which seems like a weird time to do it. Who's up next, Jake, Jake, go ahead, Jake.

00:40:41
Speaker 13: Hey More and mad Team. I actually have a quick comment for you, and then a question about tonight's game. So uh, to kind of piggyback off the discussion about Cope not being able to land the top recruits. I think the diagnosis for that is actually pretty simple, and it's minutes per game. Did you know that we only have one guy on our team playing more than twenty five minutes per game, and that's Denzel Aberdeen at twenty five point four. So if you're you know, Tyron Stokes or you know, name your top favorite recruit. If you see that man, you want to play and put on a good film for the NBA. So I think that'd be a pretty big deterrent for some of these guys, especially ni own money for everything.

00:41:21
Speaker 4: I think that's a perfectly I think you're exactly right. I appreciate the call. I go back to Pope would look at the analytics and go, guys are not efficient unless they play twenty five minutes. But you're exactly right. If I'm Tyron Stokes, I'm number one player in the country. Do I want to come play twenty minutes a game? Probably not. I will note Cal did the same thing often and he got guys to come, so you can't do it.

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