RUMOR - No Hollow Knight: Silksong at Nintendo's Indie World

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Welcome to game As Mornings with Me Jeff Grub,
<v Speaker 1>your host from giant bomb dot com.
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for tuning in.
<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we're gonna be talking about how Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>might celebrate Mario's fortieth anniversary maybe and our live service
<v Speaker 1>games finally leaving PS four behind. It's gonna be a
<v Speaker 1>good one because we have Sean Turbo Shawn McDowell on
<v Speaker 1>the show.
<v Speaker 2>Sean, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 3>Ah see Jeff a little under the weather.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I realized I'm like, oh this is this boy
<v Speaker 1>might be a little sick you Okay, what's going on?
<v Speaker 3>Well, thankfully I didn't quite catch the Evola I'm measure
<v Speaker 3>of course, Yeah, dodged that this year. But yeah, for
<v Speaker 3>all the traveling I was doing and all the places
<v Speaker 3>I was at, I got a little bit of sniffle,
<v Speaker 3>just a little bit of sniffle.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>You probably like didn't even get it at EVO. You
<v Speaker 1>probably got it coming home, like on the plane or whatever.
<v Speaker 3>That was probably on the plane.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, just that that dry air.
<v Speaker 1>And but you know, when you have been traveling, immune
<v Speaker 1>system goes down a little bit. It's always at the
<v Speaker 1>end of the trip. Okay, Well, a little bit of
<v Speaker 1>a sniffull. Hopefully you bounce back quick. But that thanks
<v Speaker 1>for doing the show. I appreciate it, Okay, I want to, like,
<v Speaker 1>I're probably gonna give you a time to like give
<v Speaker 1>us a much more of a lowdown on EVO.
<v Speaker 2>I do want, like the full story, but give us
<v Speaker 2>the quick version here. How was it?
<v Speaker 3>It was good. It was a lot of fun. The
<v Speaker 3>event itself. It's like like hopefully that I came across
<v Speaker 3>in the video I put out recently. There's just too
<v Speaker 3>much to do, like in a good way, but there's
<v Speaker 3>too freaking much. I did do a little bit of
<v Speaker 3>work while I was out there, too, so that ate
<v Speaker 3>up a little bit of my time. Got got to
<v Speaker 3>preview some games though, got to go hands on with
<v Speaker 3>Invincible verses for extended period of time. Oh good, I
<v Speaker 3>want to do a video about the capture that I
<v Speaker 3>got at some point, I like I was telling you
<v Speaker 3>the other day, maybe turn that into a quick look
<v Speaker 3>or something. Figure out something to do with that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can. We can do a bunch of different
<v Speaker 1>stuff with that. Whatever you want to do, I'm down.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And then I got to play Marvel Tocon, which
<v Speaker 3>that's a weird game, Jeff, that is a really weird game.
<v Speaker 2>In lot happening.
<v Speaker 3>Well, it does play a very different way because like
<v Speaker 3>Invincible Verses, that's just you know, if you ask what
<v Speaker 3>what are the mechanics of Invincible Verses, the answer is yes,
<v Speaker 3>because they just if you can think of a fighting
<v Speaker 3>game mechanic, they either put it in or they have
<v Speaker 3>equivalent to it. Right considering that, yeah, it's a lot
<v Speaker 3>of old Killer Instinct devs like k I twenty thirteen.
<v Speaker 2>So that's right. Yeah, I forgot about that.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, it makes sense that they would put in
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of stuff, whereas Tokon, you know, Invincible
<v Speaker 3>is very much Marvel three mixed with KI and then
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of additional mechanics. You can easily identify where
<v Speaker 3>things coming from. Uh, Tokon, they're going like so far
<v Speaker 3>out of their way to try new things, to do
<v Speaker 3>what tag fighters have not done. At this point, you
<v Speaker 3>can't just say, oh, it's just like this game. Oh
<v Speaker 3>it's just like Marvel Games, marl vrus Characram. No, it's
<v Speaker 3>it's I can't explain in the you know, in like
<v Speaker 3>a couple of minutes here how Tocan is played. But
<v Speaker 3>The basic version is one shared health bar, which is
<v Speaker 3>very different. Normally you have multiple for each character and
<v Speaker 3>anything like that, and you gain your characters as like
<v Speaker 3>big moments happen in the match. You only start with
<v Speaker 3>your main character and a second character. And that's how
<v Speaker 3>they're doing four v four is that anytime you throw
<v Speaker 3>your opponent or do these stage transition, you'll like toss
<v Speaker 3>them into the next stage over then you each gain
<v Speaker 3>additional character up to your four characters. It's wild. It
<v Speaker 3>is a weird feeling game too, because's a little slower
<v Speaker 3>than you expect out of a tag fighter. But once
<v Speaker 3>I started like learning how all the mcacs worked, it's
<v Speaker 3>it was a very interesting game to play.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it definitely seems like, you know, our system works.
<v Speaker 1>What I always hear from people play a lot of
<v Speaker 1>their game. So yeah, they have a lot of systems,
<v Speaker 1>and I think they're like proud of that and they
<v Speaker 1>want to stand on there. Of course, Marvel's history is
<v Speaker 1>so strong in fighting games that I bet that's a
<v Speaker 1>big motivating factor here. But I think it's interesting when
<v Speaker 1>you get that when you start getting the.
<v Speaker 2>Third or fourth character, does it like tack.
<v Speaker 1>Onto the to the health bar in any way or
<v Speaker 1>is it just like now I have more y.
<v Speaker 3>So it does. I forget exactly how it works, but yeah,
<v Speaker 3>you get a little bit more meter and a little
<v Speaker 3>bit more health bar as you get each one. But
<v Speaker 3>it's like a chunk. It's not like you get an
<v Speaker 3>extra health get a new character now. But yeah, that
<v Speaker 3>was really interesting. The line was hilariously long for that
<v Speaker 3>it is yeah video. Yeah they kept the line moving though.
<v Speaker 3>I had never still on line for more than like
<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes even as long as the line was, so
<v Speaker 3>that was cool. But yeah, the event itself was awesome.
<v Speaker 3>The arcade section is so much fun. I like doing
<v Speaker 3>the airplay Quicken Crash the Old Namco like Young Game.
<v Speaker 3>It's like if it's like a physical like Young game,
<v Speaker 3>they like physical props inside of like this the arcade
<v Speaker 3>cabinet and when you pull out, yeah, you pull out
<v Speaker 3>the gun you like, knock over the targets. And the
<v Speaker 3>big gimmick at the end is that there's a ceramic
<v Speaker 3>mug that explodes when you shoot it. It's it's a
<v Speaker 3>cute arcade machine that I liked playing anytime an event
<v Speaker 3>has it. Uh, there's also like this Superhero game where
<v Speaker 3>you punch a punching bag in order to blow enemies away.
<v Speaker 3>I forget what's called there's a mech game where you
<v Speaker 3>sit in uh like this cockpit. The arcade is better
<v Speaker 3>than ever. It's honestly, if you're if it's like a
<v Speaker 3>short trip to EVO for you, like it's worth going
<v Speaker 3>for the arcade alone.
<v Speaker 1>It looks massive. There's so many arcade machines there. Where
<v Speaker 1>Where do they all come from? Do people truck them
<v Speaker 1>in or is it like a local collector what?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they literally truck it in from somewhere nearby. But yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it's the it's the same people who do the machine
<v Speaker 3>the arcade over at Combo Breaker as well.
<v Speaker 1>All right, Yeah, any relation to California extreme? Maybe, like
<v Speaker 1>because I know that's another Maybe they like from.
<v Speaker 3>Vegas rent out machines and everything, and like these companies
<v Speaker 3>share it from each other. But either way, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>It was really cool to see that many arcade machines
<v Speaker 2>in one place.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of stuff or the weekend. Hilariously, outside
<v Speaker 3>of previewing new games, I did not play a single
<v Speaker 3>fighting game all weekend at EVO. Watched plenty you know,
<v Speaker 3>watch Top Eight's all Sunday and stuff, got to meet
<v Speaker 3>some people. Finally got to meet ABC and Marino, so
<v Speaker 3>it's nice to catch up with them. I was hanging
<v Speaker 3>out at a friend's booth in the rstally got to
<v Speaker 3>meet Susie for the first time, the Sphere Hunter. She's awesome.
<v Speaker 3>It's great to meet her because I'm the only member
<v Speaker 3>of Giant Bomb she's never met before. Right the way
<v Speaker 3>things worked out, so yeah, we just said chat for
<v Speaker 3>a while and she's she's great. She's really nice. So
<v Speaker 3>it's just fun to like meet a bunch of people,
<v Speaker 3>do all the things there are to do at a
<v Speaker 3>massive convention and everything, and yeah, just have a fun time.
<v Speaker 3>Like I said lariously, even not playing fighting games, I
<v Speaker 3>ain't compete this year at all.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, it sounds like a great time. Looking forward to
<v Speaker 1>hearing even more from me when we get a chance.
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<v Speaker 2>Hello YouTube, it's a right.
<v Speaker 1>Shohn's back now, so we can get some chapters and
<v Speaker 1>timestamps there. We have a lot to get into, so
<v Speaker 1>let's start the morning mess with. The manufacturer of switch
<v Speaker 1>and switch to cards will start making cartridges in different
<v Speaker 1>formats to give publishers options.
<v Speaker 2>Did both for you?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for This is from Alberto Garrido at Game Reactor.
<v Speaker 1>Despite being a big step forward in many areas, the
<v Speaker 1>launch of Nintendo switch To has brought with it some
<v Speaker 1>new practices that have not gone down well with gamers
<v Speaker 1>in particular. One of the most notable is the use
<v Speaker 1>of physical switch to cartridges or the so called game
<v Speaker 1>key cards, which are basically an empty card with a
<v Speaker 1>launcher to download the full game from Nintendo's E shop
<v Speaker 1>via an Internet connection, something that analysts already started to
<v Speaker 1>point out a few weeks ago was affecting sales, and
<v Speaker 1>which now leaves us with yet another piece of information
<v Speaker 1>that supports that suspicion.
<v Speaker 2>Macronics mcronics. Yea, I'm gonna say mccronics.
<v Speaker 1>Maker of physical switch and switched to cartridges, has filed
<v Speaker 1>its latest fiscal report in which it warns of a
<v Speaker 1>loss of one point two seven six billion Taiwan. These
<v Speaker 1>dollars about forty two million US dollars do, according to them,
<v Speaker 1>to currency appreciation adjustments and recognition of inventory reduction. But
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that in the RAM memory segment, which
<v Speaker 1>is like their flash ram memory that they put inside
<v Speaker 1>those cards, it's down two percent. That's a two percent decrease.
<v Speaker 1>That is the primary sort of use for Nintendo console cards.
<v Speaker 1>It seems that this has led them to consider offering
<v Speaker 1>more versions with different cards, stage storage capacities to companies. Currently,
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo switched two cards only come in two versions depending
<v Speaker 1>on their capacity, eight gigabytes and sixty four gigabytes, and
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the reasons, the primary reasons according to reporting,
<v Speaker 1>that we've gotten mostly game key cards from a lot
<v Speaker 1>of these developers because the sixty four gigabyte one is
<v Speaker 1>pretty is probably pretty expensive. I think we've safely assumed
<v Speaker 1>it's very exp I.
<v Speaker 3>Think the key cards might be cheaper in general, because
<v Speaker 3>I didn't notice as a bunch of stuff, like news
<v Speaker 3>came out about the Nintendo Direct and everything I saw
<v Speaker 3>at least one game said requires full download, you know,
<v Speaker 3>the game key card thing like six gigabytes, So the
<v Speaker 3>key cards must be like, yeah, even cheaper than the
<v Speaker 3>eight gig ones.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, definitely, I think so. Yeah, which makes.
<v Speaker 3>Sense because there's no actual right stores on the couple megabytes.
<v Speaker 1>Probably megabytes maybe right, could be kilobytes. Yeah, so it
<v Speaker 1>could just be like a hex code that like kicks
<v Speaker 1>off a program on the switch to that sends you
<v Speaker 1>to the shop.
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, and so.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I think the circumstantial evidence is certainly starting
<v Speaker 1>to pile up that Nintendo thinks there's something rotten in
<v Speaker 1>Denmark when it comes to game key cards, and I
<v Speaker 1>think we can point to them asking gamers in Japan
<v Speaker 1>and now around the world, hey, what gets you to
<v Speaker 1>buy a fiscal game versus a digital game? What about
<v Speaker 1>those game key cards? They've done survey and their domestic
<v Speaker 1>region and their international regions. Now we have heard from
<v Speaker 1>analysts that maybe the game key cards aren't doing as
<v Speaker 1>well as as some of the other games, like Cyberpunk
<v Speaker 1>did very well and all the game key cards maybe
<v Speaker 1>did not, and Micronics kind of being like, hey, we
<v Speaker 1>are maybe looking into some of these other storage sizes,
<v Speaker 1>which feels like, yeah, you better have been like there's
<v Speaker 1>no I mean other than maybe Nintendo likes game key
<v Speaker 1>cards or liked game key cards, and so they weren't
<v Speaker 1>super hot on the idea of offering a bunch of
<v Speaker 1>options to the third parties for them to have, you know,
<v Speaker 1>sixteen and thirty two gigabyte options. But outside of that,
<v Speaker 1>it feels like, yeah, let's give people options so they
<v Speaker 1>don't have to spend or overspend on storage media when
<v Speaker 1>we can just put an entire game on sixteen gigabytes
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of cases and call it a day
<v Speaker 1>and everyone can be happy except for maybe again maybe Nintendo,
<v Speaker 1>although Nintendo might be coming around as well based on
<v Speaker 1>what happens with that survey.
<v Speaker 2>What do you make of this?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they definitely need an in between. Is
<v Speaker 3>it the smallest A gigabytes? That's like that doesn't get
<v Speaker 3>you very far nowadays, even when it comes to like
<v Speaker 3>retro collections and stuff, you know, just having especially once
<v Speaker 3>we get up to like PS one and stuff, having
<v Speaker 3>all those ROMs plus an emulator might take you above
<v Speaker 3>that amount. But I think something more like sixteen would
<v Speaker 3>be a happy medium, which I think for a lot
<v Speaker 3>of people that they are looking for that happy medium
<v Speaker 3>because they want smaller games, the collections, the stuff where
<v Speaker 3>they look at that and they say, that's some retro games.
<v Speaker 3>That's a simpler game. That's a smaller game. This should
<v Speaker 3>be on the cartridge. If it's like a really really
<v Speaker 3>big game, I think people would be more understanding, like say,
<v Speaker 3>Star Wars Outlaws is probably gonna be like massive even
<v Speaker 3>on the switch, and so that makes a little more
<v Speaker 3>sense for it to be a game key card because
<v Speaker 3>just like when you buy say the PS four disc
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, you know, the current gend disc. It's going
<v Speaker 3>to have at least some of the game on there,
<v Speaker 3>but you're also got to download a massive patch, and
<v Speaker 3>people would be more understanding of that game. Sorry, it's
<v Speaker 3>all right, ghosts sneezing in my ear right there. I
<v Speaker 3>think more people would be understanding of having a game
<v Speaker 3>key card in that situation. Although hey, Cyberpunk, you know,
<v Speaker 3>ponied up for the bigger cart as well, so who knows.
<v Speaker 3>I do think that might have been like a little
<v Speaker 3>bit of an anomaly with people buying that, and that
<v Speaker 3>was just like people want to buy Cyberpunk for the
<v Speaker 3>Swiss too, because that's a cool prospect, you know. I
<v Speaker 3>don't think that's a direct correlation of the game being
<v Speaker 3>on a key card, even though it helped with their marketing.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, it got the buzz around that. You're right,
<v Speaker 1>exactly factors in. Is that the main reason that that
<v Speaker 1>game did so well? Probably not, but it certainly helped
<v Speaker 1>and did not yea anyway.
<v Speaker 3>And people are being vocal about it, and companies, you know,
<v Speaker 3>they don't listen unless it's like the only thing that
<v Speaker 3>people are saying about an issue. And like I've said,
<v Speaker 3>you know, for me personally, I don't mind game key
<v Speaker 3>cards because for me, physical is still about the ownership
<v Speaker 3>of the game. But I no, for a lot of people,
<v Speaker 3>it is about the idea, if nothing else, of having
<v Speaker 3>it all on the cart and that can't be taken
<v Speaker 3>away from you. If you know, servers go down in
<v Speaker 3>the future and arthing like that. A cute little story
<v Speaker 3>from EVO. Actually, some of Atari was there, you know,
<v Speaker 3>for showing up Woral Combat Collection. Some of them sat
<v Speaker 3>in front of me during Street Fighter Top eight and
<v Speaker 3>when the Atari logo came up on the screen, they're like, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>that's us, and they were they were like saying stuff,
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, and the game is all a switch card. Yeah. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>So like they know they're hearing people talk about it,
<v Speaker 3>and so I think that's why we're seeing even Nintendo
<v Speaker 3>themselves look too. Oh people are mad mad. Okay, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>maybe we should walk this one back a little bit.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure intend to probably factor Danis in a
<v Speaker 1>number of like, Okay, we make some changes. You know,
<v Speaker 1>a certain percentage of people will not come with us
<v Speaker 1>on these changes when it comes to game key cards
<v Speaker 1>or the various other changes that happened to the way
<v Speaker 1>that people buy games, and then I think Nintenda's probably
<v Speaker 1>looking at it like, Okay, maybe the number is bigger
<v Speaker 1>than what we were expecting, and we don't want to
<v Speaker 1>lose sales on this stuff, and we do retail still
<v Speaker 1>important to us. We are Nintendo. We sell a lot
<v Speaker 1>of physical games at physical retailers. So yeah, I think
<v Speaker 1>they are probably going to slowly respond to this.
<v Speaker 2>We'll see.
<v Speaker 1>I get the sense that even those eight gigabyte cards, though,
<v Speaker 1>are not plentiful. I feel like at launch it was
<v Speaker 1>like sixty four gigabyte or a game key card, and
<v Speaker 1>then maybe a handful of partners.
<v Speaker 2>Got eight gigabyte cards. I don't know how it works
<v Speaker 2>these days.
<v Speaker 1>I know back in the day with cartridges on the
<v Speaker 1>NES and Super Nintendo and Nintendo controlled the whole thing,
<v Speaker 1>like the production of those and licensing people to be
<v Speaker 1>able to get to the manufacturing plants, and that's why
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo made a ton of money back in the day.
<v Speaker 1>I bet it's not like they don't have like an
<v Speaker 1>iron grip on it like they once did. But I
<v Speaker 1>do still think that these companies mostly have to go
<v Speaker 1>through Nintendo to get these cards.
<v Speaker 2>So my understanding frustrating.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, based on why I've just heard off handedly minor
<v Speaker 3>standing is that they still completely control the distribution of them.
<v Speaker 3>But obviously they're not like making them as close to
<v Speaker 3>chess anymore. They like buy them from someone else and
<v Speaker 3>that right exactly distribute them onwards. Right, Yeah, it's.
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, that's I mean, Nintendo can be so
<v Speaker 1>weird and aloof sometimes that that's going to be frustrating
<v Speaker 1>for these developers publishers. So that in this moment where
<v Speaker 1>feels like Nintendo's paying attention, hopefully they're trying to get
<v Speaker 1>their ear and everyone can come out the other side
<v Speaker 1>being like, Okay, gamekey cards probably aren't gonna go away,
<v Speaker 1>but there's you know, sixteen thirty two gigabyte cards are
<v Speaker 1>much more you know, frequent than they were before.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think they just overestimated how many people would
<v Speaker 3>be willing to go for their plan of just pay
<v Speaker 3>us the extra for the sixty four and so many companies,
<v Speaker 3>even big companies who don't necessary really need to say
<v Speaker 3>the money going no, screw you. That's millions of dollars
<v Speaker 3>that we say by doing the key card, we don't
<v Speaker 3>care if people are mad at us.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they'll get you, all right, let's stick here a
<v Speaker 1>couple other Nintendo stories. Nintendo Indie World leakers says Hollow
<v Speaker 1>Night Silk Song won't be featured at it. This is
<v Speaker 1>her mid Nintendo news that is essentially the story that
<v Speaker 1>that is a leaker switch Force, which correctly predicted a
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo presentation would take place this week. It says that
<v Speaker 1>the highly anticipated game will not be present. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it was probably not gonna be there.
<v Speaker 2>Hollow Night's Silk Song.
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, that could have been at a direct, but
<v Speaker 1>even that seemed like, no, it's probably gonna be around
<v Speaker 1>Xbox stuff at Gamescom.
<v Speaker 2>It's playable at games Com. We know that, So I.
<v Speaker 1>Think that this game gets its date information at games Com.
<v Speaker 1>I really put the story here though, to say, hey, Sean,
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is gonna happen at this Indie World?
<v Speaker 1>Is going to be like one of those things where
<v Speaker 1>we won't be able to predict anything. So it's a
<v Speaker 1>bunch of games out of nowhere, or there are a
<v Speaker 1>couple outstanding indie games that like Mina The Hollower or
<v Speaker 1>what's the other one that's kind of like Silk Song
<v Speaker 1>that we've been waiting for for a long time.
<v Speaker 2>There's a couple like that. But I don't know anything
<v Speaker 2>that you're particularly.
<v Speaker 3>In the Metroid video. Yeah, I don't know. I got
<v Speaker 3>nothing for it. Jeff Well, First of all, yeah, like
<v Speaker 3>you said, of course, Silk Song wasn't gonna be here
<v Speaker 3>because like it's not exclusive to Xbox in any way.
<v Speaker 3>But they have a marketing deal that they're showing up
<v Speaker 3>in that presentation alongside their new handel. Of course they
<v Speaker 3>have some kind of marketing deal, so that's where we
<v Speaker 3>should be looking to, like see more Silk Song stuff
<v Speaker 3>leading up to launch. But as far as the indie
<v Speaker 3>world goes in general, I got no idea. I'm trying
<v Speaker 3>to think of indies that have been on my radar
<v Speaker 3>that haven't been talked about much recently. Like I guess
<v Speaker 3>Mina makes an appearance, sure like Nintendo and people.
<v Speaker 1>We do have the release date for Mina that's October
<v Speaker 1>thirty first, so but exactly it can still pop in again, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like they they like doing stuff together, so
<v Speaker 3>like maybe it just pops up as sizzle reeler or something.
<v Speaker 3>Not data is out, But yeah, I got I got
<v Speaker 3>absolutely nothing. Maybe Hades two.
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, it feels like a possibility to be either
<v Speaker 1>the one last thing, here's the one point oh, and
<v Speaker 1>it's coming very soon and that's exciting. Maybe could even
<v Speaker 1>like shadow Drop if that game is ready.
<v Speaker 3>Not necessarily say maybe I misheard this, didn't they say
<v Speaker 3>the next major update for Hades two was one point zero?
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think what happened was and I've also been
<v Speaker 1>like keeping it over there, but like one eye on
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. I think what happened was they
<v Speaker 1>did their last update before they're going to go one
<v Speaker 1>point oh, and then they're like, we have actually one
<v Speaker 1>more update. We're gonna do a surprise one last update,
<v Speaker 1>but the next one for sure is going to be
<v Speaker 1>one point oh.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that that is imminent, and they're pretty brisk.
<v Speaker 1>At getting those updates out, so I bet they're almost ready,
<v Speaker 1>and if they can time it with a sort of
<v Speaker 1>Nintendo event, they probably would. I mean, because it's Nintendo
<v Speaker 1>and PCT at launch exclusively so and Nintendo really likes them.
<v Speaker 2>So maybe being like, hey.
<v Speaker 1>Can we put you as the key the key player
<v Speaker 1>in one of our Indie World showcases? I bet that
<v Speaker 1>would be a good fit for this game. But it
<v Speaker 1>also doesn't necessarily mean I don't know that game's big
<v Speaker 1>enough that it could have been in the last.
<v Speaker 2>Direct, So why wasn't it there? I don't know, maybe
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't ready.
<v Speaker 3>You say key and you got me really scared there
<v Speaker 3>for a second. But yeah, no, I definitely think that
<v Speaker 3>would be the big one for them, And then I'd
<v Speaker 3>imagine this one. They always announced something news, several things
<v Speaker 3>new at Indie World that we're not expecting, But I
<v Speaker 3>don't know vibes of this going into this is probably
<v Speaker 3>like it's gonna be indies that you know and love
<v Speaker 3>that maybe couldn't come over switch to or couldn't come
<v Speaker 3>over Switch one are going to be on switch to.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they just like didn't get around to make it
<v Speaker 3>switch one version, now they are coming to switch to.
<v Speaker 3>I would expect it to be things like that, not
<v Speaker 3>necessarily like big blow you away announcements.
<v Speaker 1>Right, and then also probably a lot of like indie
<v Speaker 1>games just going to switch one because def kits have
<v Speaker 1>been hard.
<v Speaker 2>To get get a hold of.
<v Speaker 1>Although true, you know, like okay, but this is the
<v Speaker 1>Indie World showcase, so this is almost in apparently going
<v Speaker 1>to be developed vers Nintendo has a decent relationship with,
<v Speaker 1>and maybe those are the ones that do get switched
<v Speaker 1>to developmentgainst. Although I think they said when they announced
<v Speaker 1>like the timeframe for those fifteen minutes, and a lot
<v Speaker 1>of games will be switched one, but there will be
<v Speaker 1>some switch to. I think it's how they phrased it.
<v Speaker 1>That's my expectation anyhow, So we'll see indie games they
<v Speaker 1>can come out and switch one and just be like
<v Speaker 1>unlock frame rate and it'll do better on switch to,
<v Speaker 1>and that would be just fine.
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do this.
<v Speaker 1>One leaker claims new Super Mario Brothers collection coming for
<v Speaker 1>fortieth anniversary.
<v Speaker 2>This is from my Nintendo News.
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard this, so don't take this as any confirmation,
<v Speaker 1>but this is one of the rumors out there.
<v Speaker 3>John say a story and then yeah, well, okay, we'll
<v Speaker 3>get John.
<v Speaker 1>I just reacted to John Skeinny of neogaff and Discord
<v Speaker 1>Notoriety has said that Nintendo will be releasing a new
<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Brothers collection in celebration of the franchise's fortieth anniversary.
<v Speaker 1>The collection will apparently contain new Super Mario Brothers from
<v Speaker 1>the DS, New Super Mario Brothers WE, and New Mario
<v Speaker 1>Brothers Two for the three DS. The users reportedly received
<v Speaker 1>the information via internal scheduling docs and partial localization assets
<v Speaker 1>via a contractor QA team that he has worked with before.
<v Speaker 1>I am Johnny Skinny or whatever. John Skinny has apparently
<v Speaker 1>gotten some stuff right in the past.
<v Speaker 2>I know.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these names apparently gotten some stuff correct in the past,
<v Speaker 1>and so maybe this is accurate, maybe it's not. Either way, though,
<v Speaker 1>the fortieth anniversary of Mario Super Mario, I guess is
<v Speaker 1>how they would phrase it is this year later this year,
<v Speaker 1>you know, now it's coming up soon. One, do you
<v Speaker 1>think Nintendo does anything for it, because while they did
<v Speaker 1>stuff for thirty fifth, they don't necessarily always do stuff
<v Speaker 1>for every like five year interval. And then two, if
<v Speaker 1>they did it, would you be happy with a new
<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Brothers collection.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do something every five years, but it's like
<v Speaker 3>usually just whatever they had in the pipeline for Mario,
<v Speaker 3>and then you know some like anniversary merged or like
<v Speaker 3>something small all that they can put out In addition
<v Speaker 3>to that. Uh I was reacting to when you said
<v Speaker 3>new Super Mario Brothers collection. I'm like, oh, okay, so
<v Speaker 3>like one through three words, yeah, another new collection and
<v Speaker 3>that's like oh no, capital and Super Marios Collection. I
<v Speaker 3>was expecting that, to which I say, hell no, hey,
<v Speaker 3>no freaking way, Jeff. They're gonna New Super Mario Brothers too.
<v Speaker 3>How are they gonna do that? They're gonna have three
<v Speaker 3>dass emulation. I'll switch to they're gonna point that over like.
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna port it over. Yeah, they did.
<v Speaker 3>Like either way, that's a huge amount of work to
<v Speaker 3>put into a game that people don't even like.
<v Speaker 1>Yea, honestly probably the worst Super Mario Brothers game. I
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's probably right.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I don't know about this one, Like I
<v Speaker 3>would be surprised about it. Maybe there's some kernel of
<v Speaker 3>truth here and like one or two of the games
<v Speaker 3>gets like poured it over or out, and I'd having
<v Speaker 3>this be the follow up to Super Mario three All
<v Speaker 3>Stars would feel very weird to me. I could see
<v Speaker 3>the idea behind it, because casuals do like the new
<v Speaker 3>series a lot. They sold a lot, right, These games
<v Speaker 3>sold off buck Ton on the Wii and in other places. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I mean you get like kay Sanat streaming New Super
<v Speaker 3>Mario Brothers. We to two hundred thousand people on Twitch alone.
<v Speaker 3>It's like clearly like regardless of who it is. There's
<v Speaker 3>some level of people have been nostalgic for this, like
<v Speaker 3>Wei game that they played when they were, you know,
<v Speaker 3>in male school or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>And then even if they do the three D All
<v Speaker 1>Stars thing of this is available for six months or whatever,
<v Speaker 1>they maybe they would time it so that it's available
<v Speaker 1>at least through when the movie comes out next year.
<v Speaker 1>Another Mario game, But I think they might not even
<v Speaker 1>do a limited time thing. They probably would just have
<v Speaker 1>it out there, so that could be another Mario game
<v Speaker 1>that sells very well on the switch and Switch to
<v Speaker 1>and is ready to go when the movie comes out.
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm with you where it's like a little
<v Speaker 1>bit iffy on this actually happening because specifically because of
<v Speaker 1>us New Super.
<v Speaker 2>Mario Brothers too, but New Super Mario Brothers.
<v Speaker 1>We is a great game that's actually a very good platformer,
<v Speaker 1>and I would like them, yes, I would like them
<v Speaker 1>to find a way to like bring that back, let
<v Speaker 1>more people play it, because I think we the we
<v Speaker 1>You one is the one like oh, that one's that
<v Speaker 1>one's great.
<v Speaker 2>The WEE one's even better, and I would love to
<v Speaker 2>see people little.
<v Speaker 3>Chance to play that you better than We personally.
<v Speaker 1>But I use great it is but we was so
<v Speaker 1>fun and really that was like me playing it, like
<v Speaker 1>trying to one. As I was playing it, It's like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>the difficulty is really well done at this point.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we'll we'll see.
<v Speaker 1>I do think when I like sit down and I
<v Speaker 1>was pondering this this morning, putting it into the rundown,
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Nintendo probably isn't done like milking New
<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Brothers. They have not done the collection yet,
<v Speaker 1>so they will probably do that one in one form
<v Speaker 1>or another, whether that's this year or at some point
<v Speaker 1>in the future that will happen. And so like part
<v Speaker 1>of me is like, yeah, this kind of lines up
<v Speaker 1>with what I expect from Nintendo and whatever. I won't
<v Speaker 1>hate it. New super Mario Brothers woulds. That's a you know,
<v Speaker 1>that's a seven right out of ten. That's an okay game.
<v Speaker 2>But We is good. We and we U is real good.
<v Speaker 2>Two sucks.
<v Speaker 3>I hate to.
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<v Speaker 1>It's Game Mess Mornings. I'm Jeff Grubb. That's Sean Turboshaan
<v Speaker 1>McDowell shots at to Jan. Let's get back into it.
<v Speaker 1>The PS four version of Ginschen Impact is being delisted
<v Speaker 1>and shut down. This is from Chris Sculling at VGC
<v Speaker 1>Popular Action RPG Ginschen Impact is being shut down on
<v Speaker 1>PS four, developer Bjoyo says, and at post on the
<v Speaker 1>game's official website, Bjoyo stated that it would be discontinuing
<v Speaker 1>support and updates for Ginchen Impact on PS four in
<v Speaker 1>future versions. According to the developer, the decision was made
<v Speaker 1>due to limitations related to hardware performance and platform application size.
<v Speaker 1>The PS five version will be unaffected by this, as
<v Speaker 1>well as other versions of the game. It appears that
<v Speaker 1>for now only the PS four version is being shut down.
<v Speaker 1>On September tenth, the PS four version of the game
<v Speaker 1>will be removed from the PlayStation store.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, put this here, because it's like, man forever.
<v Speaker 1>For a long time there was like, all right, we're
<v Speaker 1>kind of just waiting for a lot of these live
<v Speaker 1>service games to move on from PS four. But I
<v Speaker 1>guess do they have to? Should they? Maybe they don't
<v Speaker 1>even need to. Plenty of people probably still playing them
<v Speaker 1>on there, and that version could just work on the
<v Speaker 1>next system, And even if they do eventually release a
<v Speaker 1>native version for the next system, again, still a lot
<v Speaker 1>of people playing those those old versions.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, Ginchen Impact is not like Call of Duty, which
<v Speaker 1>is maybe more the audience on console, but I bet
<v Speaker 1>there's still a decent number of people playing Genschen impact
<v Speaker 1>on PS.
<v Speaker 2>Four or there was.
<v Speaker 1>So like is this just them like really being like,
<v Speaker 1>you know what, let's it has reached a critical mass
<v Speaker 1>on PS five, we can safely move on and not
<v Speaker 1>have the headaches of continuing to support this old hardware.
<v Speaker 1>Is it just that simple? Yeah, it's just that simple.
<v Speaker 3>It's eventually you need to end support for older platforms
<v Speaker 3>if you are adding to the game in a way
<v Speaker 3>that requires new hardware. We saw this with the Found
<v Speaker 3>Fantasy fourteen, you know that started on PS three, and
<v Speaker 3>as certain point they were like, we're adding so much
<v Speaker 3>this game that really does just require that much more
<v Speaker 3>ram we need to sunset the PS three version. So
<v Speaker 3>starting with I forget exactly which one had it, maybe
<v Speaker 3>a storm Blood. I forget where they completely drop PS
<v Speaker 3>three support, But at some point they're like, if if
<v Speaker 3>you want to play on PlayStation, you need to play
<v Speaker 3>the PS four version. It's been enough years, it's been
<v Speaker 3>you know, the audience has grown enough on the new system.
<v Speaker 3>We need to move on over there. And with something
<v Speaker 3>like Genchen it's even easier for them to do that
<v Speaker 3>because so many people do play on other platforms, such
<v Speaker 3>as their phone, you know, even if they want that
<v Speaker 3>controller experience slapping a backbone on your iPhone that you
<v Speaker 3>got last year that runs better than the PS four version,
<v Speaker 3>which of course it does. PS fours from twenty thirteen,
<v Speaker 3>and the hardware is even older than that. So, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>these these types of games eventually have to move on
<v Speaker 3>from the older platforms, and that's all we're seeing with catches.
<v Speaker 3>It's something that happens pretty naturally.
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, So do you think that this is maybe
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of a cascade where Okay, now Ginchen impacts
<v Speaker 1>moving on and we'll start seeing a lot of other
<v Speaker 1>live service games being like we're no longer supporting PS
<v Speaker 1>four and Xbox one and you know switches already.
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a weird anomaly.
<v Speaker 1>But between the PS four and Xbox one or is
<v Speaker 1>this just like you know a case of now that
<v Speaker 1>makes sense for Ginschen, their numbers, they were looking at
<v Speaker 1>the spreadsheet and the number of players hit a certain
<v Speaker 1>line and the costs hit a certain line, and as
<v Speaker 1>those crossed each other, we're just like, we should just
<v Speaker 1>move on, and that's not going to be the.
<v Speaker 2>Case for the Call of Duties or what do you
<v Speaker 2>expect here?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's case by case because just macdotally,
<v Speaker 3>I know plenty of people who still play Call of
<v Speaker 3>Duty in Fortnite on their PS fours and they just
<v Speaker 3>that's the reason they haven't bought a PS five. Is
<v Speaker 3>going to say, well, that's all I play on console,
<v Speaker 3>you know. Otherwise I play games on my phone on
<v Speaker 3>my PC if I have one, but that's the one
<v Speaker 3>that I still play, like you know, I hang out
<v Speaker 3>with people I play those games on that platform. So
<v Speaker 3>I think it was just a case of yeah, Mijohio
<v Speaker 3>seeing that they could move away from this one because
<v Speaker 3>the user base was starting to get smaller and smaller
<v Speaker 3>and smaller, and if it's just on a decline, then
<v Speaker 3>you get out of there. But yeah, stuff like Call
<v Speaker 3>of Duty is still doing exceptionally well on PS four.
<v Speaker 3>Fortnite is as well, so as long as those numbers
<v Speaker 3>are high enough, those companies will stick with it. I
<v Speaker 3>think this was specific to this game, but like I said,
<v Speaker 3>all all these platforms are going to drop support for
<v Speaker 3>the older versions eventually, like we see with the last
<v Speaker 3>version of war Zone. For example, Digital Foundry did some
<v Speaker 3>testing of war Zone two point zero on like the
<v Speaker 3>Xbox One VCR and Jeff that has some rough shit,
<v Speaker 3>especially run yeah Dy, you kind of need that to
<v Speaker 3>run at sixty or as close to sixty as possible,
<v Speaker 3>And so they cut resolution, they cut visuals, they cut
<v Speaker 3>everything possible to try and get to there, and at
<v Speaker 3>some point they're gonna add something in there that just
<v Speaker 3>will not run those old machines. That's one not to
<v Speaker 3>cut off. But I think, yeah, we're rapidly approaching the
<v Speaker 3>point for those games as well.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, you know, the sentiment was always, man,
<v Speaker 1>I just spent a lot of money on this new console.
<v Speaker 1>I want my games to take advantage of that. It
<v Speaker 1>feels like, for the most part, like we have moved past.
<v Speaker 1>I think that my understanding at least is when I
<v Speaker 1>look at games, even when these developers get unmoored from
<v Speaker 1>the last generation consoles, they're still held back by like
<v Speaker 1>what they could do in terms of budgets, and just
<v Speaker 1>like Scope Creep, they're worried about that. So it's like
<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of making games that way, haven't been
<v Speaker 1>making them.
<v Speaker 2>So it never really felt like PS four.
<v Speaker 1>Was holding games back in any real way, But do
<v Speaker 1>you think, like you know, now Kenson Impact, well, do
<v Speaker 1>you think we'll notice, oh man Kntin Impact does have
<v Speaker 1>all these really cool new features because it's not held
<v Speaker 1>back by PS four anymore, or is it going to
<v Speaker 1>be much more subtle than that.
<v Speaker 3>I think we'll like look to an update because I
<v Speaker 3>don't play Gasin anymore, so I don't know exactly how
<v Speaker 3>they roll out new content. I know that they do
<v Speaker 3>add new areas and in addition to the new characters
<v Speaker 3>and earything like that. But I think at some point
<v Speaker 3>we'll see like, oh yeah, this thing like the extra
<v Speaker 3>fast travel. That's one of those things that like you know,
<v Speaker 3>file Fast and fourteen eventually add stuff like that of
<v Speaker 3>movie around zones quickly or just something that is faster
<v Speaker 3>moving or bigger than ever. We're gonna go look at
<v Speaker 3>that and subtenly be like, ah, yeah, I couldn't do
<v Speaker 3>that last ye got it?
<v Speaker 2>Yep?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people in Chatta thrown out some things, They've updated
<v Speaker 1>character models, there's adding just a lot of new things
<v Speaker 1>that people are impressed with, and fox boxes remind us
<v Speaker 1>once again, yeah, the PS five versions there, so people
<v Speaker 1>can still play this if they're still in the PlayStation
<v Speaker 1>ecosystem regardless of what happens with this PS four version. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>all right, so let's keep going here. Double O seven
<v Speaker 1>first is the fastest IOI game to reach five hundred
<v Speaker 1>thousand wishless. This is from Alex Hopley at Game Reactor. Again,
<v Speaker 1>headline is the story. So Sean, I'll just ask you, like,
<v Speaker 1>when I look at this, it's like, oh, yeah, this,
<v Speaker 1>I guess this could be like a breakout hit for IOI,
<v Speaker 1>like Hitman twenty sixteen was a breakout in a lot
<v Speaker 1>of ways.
<v Speaker 2>Like I think they.
<v Speaker 1>Established themselves as the one studio working in this way
<v Speaker 1>where it's like, we're gonna make a single player game
<v Speaker 1>that sort does feel alive and has a lot of
<v Speaker 1>cool features and really like lends itself to you going
<v Speaker 1>back and playing it over and over again. They figured
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that stuff out, and Hitman has been
<v Speaker 1>this has had long legs where it just continues to sell.
<v Speaker 2>People support it and.
<v Speaker 1>Want to continue to buy it, but it's I don't
<v Speaker 1>think it was like a breakout to the mainstream mainstream,
<v Speaker 1>and this James Bond game easily could be. It's been
<v Speaker 1>a long time since we had a decent James Bond
<v Speaker 1>game and IOI seems to be taking it pretty seriously.
<v Speaker 1>The game did show up at was it was at
<v Speaker 1>Summer game Fest where we finally saw it, and that
<v Speaker 1>feels like them taking it like, Hey, we're really going
<v Speaker 1>for it. Five hundred and wishless is nothing to sneeze at.
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like people are interested in this game. Do you
<v Speaker 1>think it could be the breakout hit for the studio
<v Speaker 1>that they have been aiming for?
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, definitely. And I think when a very talented
<v Speaker 3>developer is consistently puting out their own titles for a
<v Speaker 3>long period of time, they build themselves up as a
<v Speaker 3>really great developer, and then they get some major franchise,
<v Speaker 3>like a licensed property or something to work on. That's
<v Speaker 3>when people really know their names. I was trying to
<v Speaker 3>think of the examples that flow around my head anytime
<v Speaker 3>I think of this, and one of them is like
<v Speaker 3>Mercury Steam getting to work on Metroid was certainly like
<v Speaker 3>when people started paying attention to them. But the big
<v Speaker 3>one I was trying to remember it was it's our
<v Speaker 3>system works actually where sure people were if you were
<v Speaker 3>into fighting games especially, you knew Guilty Gear, you knew
<v Speaker 3>Blaze Blue like you have heard of them, but it
<v Speaker 3>was Dragonball Fighters that made everyone look at them and say, oh,
<v Speaker 3>the stuff they're doing with visuals that's insane, that looks
<v Speaker 3>like better than the show. Wow. You know, even people
<v Speaker 3>like you who don't necessarily follow say Guilty Gear or something,
<v Speaker 3>you know, our system works because they made that beautiful
<v Speaker 3>looking Dragon Ball game that played awesome as well. And
<v Speaker 3>so I think that that's kind of thing that could
<v Speaker 3>happen with IOI Here. Hit Man's been fantastic for a
<v Speaker 3>very long time, but even just the content of hit
<v Speaker 3>Man might be you know, not everyone wants skin Dora
<v Speaker 3>that they might just have that instinctive like, oh that
<v Speaker 3>might be a little a little too violent for me
<v Speaker 3>or something.
<v Speaker 1>And I just think him in as a reputation of
<v Speaker 1>kind of being uh, not a B game, but being like, oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got my PlayStation two or three for
<v Speaker 1>this reason, and also there's a hit Man over there,
<v Speaker 1>I'll go rent that. It felt they always felt like
<v Speaker 1>a rental series to me. Now maybe that was me
<v Speaker 1>misrepresenting what that game was doing for a lot of people,
<v Speaker 1>but it rose in prominence in twenty sixteen and just
<v Speaker 1>continue to be like it's one of my favorite games
<v Speaker 1>of all time now World of Assassination.
<v Speaker 2>But I do think you're right that it's like, Okay.
<v Speaker 1>Now they can use all that on something that's easily recognizable,
<v Speaker 1>and this is where these licensed games can make a
<v Speaker 1>lot of sense.
<v Speaker 3>First like this exactly. Yeah, I think that's what First
<v Speaker 3>Slight's gonna do for them. It's just gonna they have
<v Speaker 3>built a formula. It's very good and assuming a lot
<v Speaker 3>that is in there which makes the lost sense that
<v Speaker 3>would be it would Yeah. I think you're right. This
<v Speaker 3>will be like the breakout for them.
<v Speaker 1>Another example of what you were talking about the game Kitchen.
<v Speaker 1>They did those blastmost games and now they just did
<v Speaker 1>at Ninja Guyn and Rage Bound and that kicks ass
<v Speaker 1>that quick looking up now, yeah, you've been playing it.
<v Speaker 3>I know. I haven't got around to playing the Fall
<v Speaker 3>game yet because you know, it came out while I
<v Speaker 3>was traveling, but I'm really looking forward to picking it up.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, It's it's worth it. Those boss fights are so fun,
<v Speaker 1>They're so fantastic. Really enjoying that.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, keep going here.
<v Speaker 1>Rock Star founder lands publisher for his post Grand Theft,
<v Speaker 1>Auto sci fi epic and I know that this sounds
<v Speaker 1>like it's talking about Mind's Eye, but that already happened.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Michael mcwhertero at Polygon. Rockstar Games co
<v Speaker 1>founder Dan Hauser's new studio has landed a publisher for
<v Speaker 1>its first game, which is still untitled but is described
<v Speaker 1>by its creator as a tree open world sci fi
<v Speaker 1>action adventure game set in an original universe. Korean publisher
<v Speaker 1>Smilegate and Houser's Absurd Ventures announced Wednesday that the two
<v Speaker 1>companies have teamed up to release Rockstar the Rockstar co
<v Speaker 1>founder's first post grand theft auto game, Absurd Ventures. This
<v Speaker 1>is a quote now. Absurd Ventures was set up to
<v Speaker 1>tell new and different kinds of stories and to create
<v Speaker 1>what I hope are interesting and compelling original experiences. This
<v Speaker 1>new game is an opportunity to go somewhere entirely different
<v Speaker 1>and to take players on an entirely new adventure.
<v Speaker 2>Houser set in.
<v Speaker 1>A statement, I'm excited to be going on this journey
<v Speaker 1>with an amazing team that we are building here Absurdventures.
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah. The game is set in near future.
<v Speaker 1>A better Paradise is the name of the game tells
<v Speaker 1>the story of the illefated development of an ambitious but
<v Speaker 1>addictive digital game world project led by inventor and psychologist
<v Speaker 1>doctor Mark Tyburn. As the advanced software they developed began
<v Speaker 1>delivering unexpected and disturbing results, the team fell apart under
<v Speaker 1>strange circumstances, and the project was abandoned. The game world
<v Speaker 1>and the super intelligent intelligence within were discarded, left dormant
<v Speaker 1>and undiscovered until now. Okay, Uh, Smilegate is Uh, let's see, they've.
<v Speaker 2>Got some big games. What did they do here? I'm trying.
<v Speaker 2>I wrote it down somewhere, see if I can find that.
<v Speaker 1>But either way, they're a pretty big Korean publisher. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>maybe they have a little bit more of a handle
<v Speaker 1>on what they want than IOI did when they did
<v Speaker 1>get minds Ie. It's gonna be hard enough to compare
<v Speaker 1>this to Mind's Eye, which I guess is that even fair.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why that's a Grand Theft Auto guy
<v Speaker 1>making a sci fi action game after leaving Grand Theft Auto.
<v Speaker 1>It's the same story, But that doesn't mean that this
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be the same outcome, right, not necessarily.
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean to not be that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, right, I'm gonna be real, Jeff, you hit
<v Speaker 3>me with a lot of nouns their eye zone.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little bit, no, no, no, and then smiles crossfire.
<v Speaker 1>That's right, they did crossfire. Okay, So I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>we'll see I guess. I'm just games like this are
<v Speaker 1>so hard to make, and the reason that a studio
<v Speaker 1>like Rockstar can continue to make them, even though they've
<v Speaker 1>taken quite a bit of a break between making them,
<v Speaker 1>is that they have a lot of an institutional knowledge.
<v Speaker 2>And even if you're someone who.
<v Speaker 1>Is in the thick of that institutional knowledge, you could
<v Speaker 1>only absorb so so much and you're gonna have to
<v Speaker 1>rebuild a team that can reacquire all that information about
<v Speaker 1>how to make one of these things. And that turns
<v Speaker 1>out that always kind of takes a game like if
<v Speaker 1>to make a game, first, let it go get a
<v Speaker 1>seven out of ten, and then the next the sequel
<v Speaker 1>can kind of be like, all right, now we can
<v Speaker 1>build on that and really deliver the game that we
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to and so and frankly, I expect that
<v Speaker 1>to go. That's how it's going to go here as well.
<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean it can't be successful or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>I'm almost a little bit surprised that the dudes that
<v Speaker 1>left Rockstar are.
<v Speaker 2>Still making games.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, man, you guys probably made enough money to retire, right,
<v Speaker 1>but no, they want to just.
<v Speaker 2>Keep making games.
<v Speaker 1>Does it every feel of you like maybe a little
<v Speaker 1>fueled by spite, like that something happened to Rockstar and
<v Speaker 1>they're like, we got We're going to go prove to
<v Speaker 1>the world that we were the shit and the reason
<v Speaker 1>that those games were so success successful.
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, at least for some of them, that's part
<v Speaker 3>of it. I do also think it's maybe getting tired
<v Speaker 3>of that space a little bit and saying, oh, we
<v Speaker 3>need to do things the way rock Star wants them done,
<v Speaker 3>the way two K wants them done. And there's that
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of that lowercase our rock Star mentality
<v Speaker 3>of I want to do things my way. I think
<v Speaker 3>that's what a lot of them have going into these projects,
<v Speaker 3>but then maybe being a little too ambitious with it,
<v Speaker 3>like you saw it Mine's Eye, uh not, maybe not
<v Speaker 3>really realizing the gravity of the situation. You need to
<v Speaker 3>be established if you want a you know, quadruple a
<v Speaker 3>level game to with.
<v Speaker 2>Its own roadblocks. Creation suite, Yeah exactly, Jesus.
<v Speaker 3>Crazy but yeah, if you want a massive hit on
<v Speaker 3>your hands, you either have to start small, which all
<v Speaker 3>all of these franchises did. Like Grand Theft Auto was
<v Speaker 3>not huge overnight. They needed a GTA one, a GTA two,
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of spinoffs to get to that GTA three
<v Speaker 3>at the right place the right time. In order to
<v Speaker 3>build up a massive franchise, you can't just say hey,
<v Speaker 3>I'm a GTA and then everyone swarms to you, like no,
<v Speaker 3>you have to have a really good game. You have
<v Speaker 3>to establish yourself a little bit of and yeah, they're
<v Speaker 3>getting a little over confident.
<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, and I think it's, uh, the exactly
<v Speaker 1>what you talked about, Like, I make Grand Theft Auto
<v Speaker 1>and everyone's gonna swarm to me. Well, that works when
<v Speaker 1>they're raising money. When they're raising money, you just show
<v Speaker 1>I make Grand Theft Auto and all the investors show up,
<v Speaker 1>and then you got they make the game, and like,
<v Speaker 1>I make Grand Theft Auto and all the gamers are like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>but you want seventy dollars?
<v Speaker 2>Is the game good? And it's a little bit more challenging.
<v Speaker 3>That's the difference between investors Damas Rocks and players who.
<v Speaker 2>Are doing very savvy with their money.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, way too much research. I'm one of them. I
<v Speaker 3>will go so far on my way to like check
<v Speaker 3>in on your game and see what's going on there.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, we'll see I you know, for some reason talking
<v Speaker 1>about this and like people following up games and open
<v Speaker 1>world games versus minds ie being like it seemed like
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be open world and then it wasn't.
<v Speaker 2>Uh that Mafia game is.
<v Speaker 1>Out this week, right, it's out Friday. Yeah, I don't
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I'm getting the sense there aren't going
<v Speaker 1>to be any reviews, but I don't know. No, No,
<v Speaker 1>for sure, I'm getting the sense to them there are
<v Speaker 1>maybe may be very limited.
<v Speaker 2>Who knows. We haven't seen them yet though.
<v Speaker 3>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>That game was it's a follow up to an open
<v Speaker 1>world franchise. It's not going to be open world.
<v Speaker 2>What do you what's the state of open world games
<v Speaker 2>right now? Do you think? I?
<v Speaker 1>When I when I look around, it's like, yeah, they
<v Speaker 1>that feels like the genre that just got too big
<v Speaker 1>and only a certain kind of developer connection work in
<v Speaker 1>that space.
<v Speaker 2>We only have like two of those left.
<v Speaker 1>Really, there's like you'd be soft and rocks are and
<v Speaker 1>you be soft is just going to keep doing it
<v Speaker 1>their own way. I don't know, field things got too
<v Speaker 1>it's getting too big and now other developers can't heep.
<v Speaker 3>But I'm trying to think of the last open world
<v Speaker 3>game I played, not called Tears of the Kingdom. Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>what else is there? Even like I guess Horizon, like those.
<v Speaker 1>Guys Assassin, you know, the Assassin's Creed is still I
<v Speaker 1>mean all the Ubi stuff, gas.
<v Speaker 3>I forgot Shadows came out this.
<v Speaker 2>Year, right, Ghost Do okay will be open world? You know.
<v Speaker 1>That's like, although I was gonna say that's a massive
<v Speaker 1>budget game, apparently that that is a game that is
<v Speaker 1>done on a.
<v Speaker 2>Relatively modest budget, relatively speaking.
<v Speaker 1>Yakuza okay, Yakuza Yeah, kind of open world RPG.
<v Speaker 3>One would really call Yakuza open world, it's for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, it's not trying to game, Yes, Spider Man probably.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's good. But these games are you know, like
<v Speaker 3>the games that we're mentioning are you know, years old
<v Speaker 3>at this point, like they are year many years between
<v Speaker 3>releases and stuff like that. But I think that goes
<v Speaker 3>to what you said of you know, and and to
<v Speaker 3>be clear open world in the sense of like a
<v Speaker 3>GTA style okay, solver YouTube, people say, Mario Karr World, Okay,
<v Speaker 3>what are we doing? But yeah, in the sense that
<v Speaker 3>you're saying, yeah, it's hard to put out those games,
<v Speaker 3>Like it's just it takes so much freaking time. That's
<v Speaker 3>why we don't see them anymore. You can't have a
<v Speaker 3>massive open world game that is also like super high
<v Speaker 3>in fidelity. You need to pick one or the other.
<v Speaker 3>Basically yea or or the third option. Take ten years
<v Speaker 3>to make.
<v Speaker 2>Take Tiers ten years in all the money.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even with Nintendo, Tears of the Kingdom took what
<v Speaker 3>would that have been seven years to come out. It's
<v Speaker 3>like six and a half seven years in that last year,
<v Speaker 3>the year before, year before, Yeah, somewhere around six years.
<v Speaker 2>And they were you know, reusing that was the.
<v Speaker 3>Same, yeah, basically and stuff. So it takes a long time, right.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it just shows you, like, I think open
<v Speaker 1>world games can take all the time that you give
<v Speaker 1>to them. I think because you could just keep like
<v Speaker 1>it can essentially be infinite in terms of like, oh
<v Speaker 1>we got something between here and there there, what if
<v Speaker 1>we did something in between those two points, meaning kind
<v Speaker 1>of keep doing that for forever.
<v Speaker 2>It's got to be challenging, all right.
<v Speaker 1>Last couple of stories Clare ob Security director The prejudice
<v Speaker 1>prejudice against turn based RPGs isn't completely gone.
<v Speaker 2>This is from Chris Scullion at VGC, the creative director
<v Speaker 2>of Claire Obscure.
<v Speaker 1>Expedition thirty three, says there's still a prejudice against the
<v Speaker 1>turn based RPG genre despite the commercial and critical success
<v Speaker 1>of Claire Obscure.
<v Speaker 2>Yilm.
<v Speaker 1>Brosch told Automaton that he believes that his game and
<v Speaker 1>others like Persona are exceptions to the rule, and that
<v Speaker 1>there's still some way to go until jrpg has become
<v Speaker 1>as popular as they used to be. I could talk
<v Speaker 1>about the prejudice forever, Broche laughed. Personally speaking, I think
<v Speaker 1>Japanese turn based RPGs were super super popular up until
<v Speaker 1>the Xbox three sixty era, but around that time open
<v Speaker 1>world games started getting more popular through gaming media, they
<v Speaker 1>started being considered uncool.
<v Speaker 2>And that's the turn based games.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's clearly a I know a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>where I hear them be like, oh, it's turn based.
<v Speaker 1>I have already prejudged this. It is not for me.
<v Speaker 1>I will will not enjoy this does it matter, like
<v Speaker 1>I think, because there are clearly a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>who don't care or are excited because these games are
<v Speaker 1>turn based or do you kind of bind this like yeah,
<v Speaker 1>these are the exceptions that prove the rule in clear
<v Speaker 1>obscure and persona.
<v Speaker 3>No, Like, he's right, it's funny prejudices. Maybe a bit
<v Speaker 3>of a strong word to use, but it is the
<v Speaker 3>accurate word.
<v Speaker 2>No, I get right.
<v Speaker 1>It is like we we hear it in one context usually,
<v Speaker 1>but that it has other context, other uses.
<v Speaker 2>It just means to judge before.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know it's but yeah, he's absolutely correct
<v Speaker 3>in that fewer people still enjoy turn based as opposed
<v Speaker 3>to action RPGs or action in general. We see that
<v Speaker 3>all the time where a turn base something that a
<v Speaker 3>company puts out will just be smaller than their action RPG.
<v Speaker 3>I think of like Beholio's games where Starrail certainly like
<v Speaker 3>has popular characters and everything like that, but is a
<v Speaker 3>turn based RPG, and so it did just get like
<v Speaker 3>a little a little less of a focus than gets
<v Speaker 3>an impact and zeenless o on zero, which it was
<v Speaker 3>sandwiched between. And so I think games like that do
<v Speaker 3>also prove addition, to clare obscure that there is a
<v Speaker 3>market for the urn based audience persona, you know, exploding
<v Speaker 3>popularity with like the anime fans of course proving that, yeah,
<v Speaker 3>there is a market for this. But you also got
<v Speaker 3>to look at stuff like when Final Fantasy does action
<v Speaker 3>RPGs and doesn't do horrible business decisions relate to them,
<v Speaker 3>like File Fantasy fifteen. Fifteen exploded in popularity. That game
<v Speaker 3>did really well, not by Square Enix's standards, but by
<v Speaker 3>normal human standards. Fifteen did very well. It's because it
<v Speaker 3>was a more approachable game then the turn based games
<v Speaker 3>that were, you know, coming before it. And so I
<v Speaker 3>think you look at even like fs A remake and
<v Speaker 3>Rebirth and stuff, those games do well within the confines
<v Speaker 3>of Square putting them out. People just look at turn
<v Speaker 3>based and they're like, yeah, those are the old games.
<v Speaker 3>That's that's how things used to be. I'm not really into.
<v Speaker 1>This turn It was just that way because they didn't
<v Speaker 1>have the horsepower to do it real time.
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, well, no, that's not the case, but
<v Speaker 2>that's how people feel about it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And I mean there's a certain level of
<v Speaker 3>truth to that. It's more about the fact that they
<v Speaker 3>are based on D and D so much is that's
<v Speaker 3>where that all comes from. But stuff like Pokemon, for example,
<v Speaker 3>is really like the exception to the rule. Uh yeah,
<v Speaker 3>Giome is absolutely correct that people do prefer things that
<v Speaker 3>aren't turn based.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's like as a rule generally, but
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, as in any of these things,
<v Speaker 1>just burrow down into your niche and then be the
<v Speaker 1>best yourself and you will probably attract people to your
<v Speaker 1>niche as opposed to trying to chase the trend of
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of the way the Final Fantasy has
<v Speaker 1>gone and that just hasn't worked. I think you've got
<v Speaker 1>to just be yourself in the best way possible. And
<v Speaker 1>that's that's the key to this, because I honestly like
<v Speaker 1>an action rpg. I that's usually not for me. When
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about RPGs, I am still thinking about turn.
<v Speaker 2>Based or at least interesting at least.
<v Speaker 1>Men you driven like like I want to like be
<v Speaker 1>picking options for menu because again, that feels like I'm
<v Speaker 1>playing a little bit of D and D or something
<v Speaker 1>like that, and so, uh, there are going to be
<v Speaker 1>people who feel that way, and so it's like, just
<v Speaker 1>make your game I think, and I think that's.
<v Speaker 2>What he's really getting at.
<v Speaker 1>And while acknowledging that there are a lot of people
<v Speaker 1>who just will not try a turn based RPG because
<v Speaker 1>they are biased against it for whatever reason.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's less of like a hard line I will
<v Speaker 3>not play these and more of just we're saying like
<v Speaker 3>it's a preference, like people prefer the ones that are
<v Speaker 3>more actiony. But I think, Claire obscure, the best thing
<v Speaker 3>that it has done is proven what you were saying,
<v Speaker 3>burrowing into that niche because then like the RPG sickos
<v Speaker 3>like me absolutely love the game. And then we're just
<v Speaker 3>telling everyone we know, no, no, no, no, like you don't
<v Speaker 3>understand they this is the good turn base like if
<v Speaker 3>if you're not really into that stuff, no, they added
<v Speaker 3>like the paper Mario stuff, the Mari Luigi stuff, you
<v Speaker 3>know that like active combat that you like. You have
<v Speaker 3>people like us going out to our friends who aren't
<v Speaker 3>into that stuff saying give this one a chance. Now
<v Speaker 3>a lot of them are giving a chance to find
<v Speaker 3>that they like it. Yo, Like Dan loves it even
<v Speaker 3>like you tried it and you really like it. So yeah,
<v Speaker 3>I think there's space for both of these. We don't
<v Speaker 3>need to get rid of turn base and that's that's
<v Speaker 3>a really good thing that claib'scre has done for all
<v Speaker 3>turn based RPGs, I think.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>And obviously turn based works in a lot of genres,
<v Speaker 1>like four X games. Yeah, like strategy games are the
<v Speaker 1>turn based ones are often more popular than their real
<v Speaker 1>time counterparts, So exactly like Civils has been huge, and
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the other real time since games that were,
<v Speaker 1>like Rise of Nations, that's not going anymore.
<v Speaker 2>Civilization still is, though.
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's wrap things up with these last
<v Speaker 1>two Xbox Game Pass titles for August include Assassin's Creed, Mirage.
<v Speaker 1>These are the games coming to game Pass Rain World,
<v Speaker 1>Citizen Sleeper, Two Star Wars, Vector Lonely Mountain, snow Riders,
<v Speaker 1>Mech Warrior five Clans.
<v Speaker 2>I've been meaning to play.
<v Speaker 1>That, Orcs Must Die, Death Trap, Assassins, Creed, Mirage, Aliens,
<v Speaker 1>Fire Team Elite, and Nine Kings. Leaving game Pass on
<v Speaker 1>August fifteenth is Anthem Farming Simulator two Persona three reload
<v Speaker 1>Sean we should we should all play Anthem.
<v Speaker 2>Nothing but Anthem until it leaves.
<v Speaker 3>See what Anthem is like here.
<v Speaker 2>In I want to I want to see.
<v Speaker 1>July's game Pass titles include Grounded to RoboCop Rogue, City
<v Speaker 1>of Farming Simulator twenty five, and Wu Chong Fallen Feathers.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of those already on there and have launched.
<v Speaker 1>Hollow It's Silk Song will be playable at games Com.
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft developer team Cherry announced blah blah blah, this's all
<v Speaker 1>kind of that game's also in game Pass, right, is
<v Speaker 1>that right?
<v Speaker 2>All Night, Silk Song. I think that was the case,
<v Speaker 2>silks Song.
<v Speaker 3>I assume it's launching the game pass, that they have
<v Speaker 3>the marketing deal.
<v Speaker 1>Right, because it was announced that that SGF thing from
<v Speaker 1>them their Xbox Summer Showcase a couple of years ago,
<v Speaker 1>and that was like, oh and everything in this showcase
<v Speaker 1>is going.
<v Speaker 2>To be on game Pass. So I think that's that's right.
<v Speaker 1>And then over at PlayStation, August's PlayStation Plus Essential titles
<v Speaker 1>are now available. That includes Lies of p as well
<v Speaker 1>as Daisy and My Hero One's Justice two, which is
<v Speaker 1>probably an arena fighter. I'm guessing yeah. Dais is the
<v Speaker 1>PS four version. I don't know if there is a
<v Speaker 1>PS five version. I okay, I know we talked about
<v Speaker 1>games that we should play that we really should play
<v Speaker 1>daiz like just like have like a couple like two
<v Speaker 1>weeks in a row where we see how like if
<v Speaker 1>we can actually survive in that world.
<v Speaker 2>Now, I haven't.
<v Speaker 1>Played that in god, that's actually probably been like ten
<v Speaker 1>years more than that. Now, it's it's interesting. It definitely
<v Speaker 1>like you could see how things continue to evolve out
<v Speaker 1>a daisy and like a bunch of mods then became
<v Speaker 1>big games based on what was happening there. All right,
<v Speaker 1>let's get to the poll question. We have this from
<v Speaker 1>earlier this week. Let me make sure I can find
<v Speaker 1>the results.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me go to the post.
<v Speaker 1>Actually, a giant bomb. It's given me a problem here,
<v Speaker 1>there we go, giant bomb on YouTube. A giant bomb.
<v Speaker 1>All right, it was just stuck on the last poll question.
<v Speaker 1>Do you want a new Super Mario Brothers collection on Switch?
<v Speaker 1>That's the new poll question. Let's see, have you played
<v Speaker 1>a Dark Sider's game before? Yes, yes, and no? Sixty
<v Speaker 1>four percent said yes, thirty six percent said no. That's
<v Speaker 1>quite a few people. So I wonder if Dark Sider's
<v Speaker 1>four is going to do just fine, especially if it
<v Speaker 1>like really delivers on the promise of following up that
<v Speaker 1>first game. I'm I'm definitely like, oh yeah, Dark Sider's Rules.
<v Speaker 1>Would love to go back.
<v Speaker 2>And play another one of those, So that's me.
<v Speaker 1>We do have that new poll question, do you want
<v Speaker 1>a new Super Mario Brothers collection on Switch?
<v Speaker 2>Yes or no? The poll question is up now.
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to see what the response from our audience
<v Speaker 1>is going to be for this one. Okay, Sean, why
<v Speaker 1>don't you tell people where the can find you on
<v Speaker 1>the internet what you have going on?
<v Speaker 2>All that good stuff?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Turbo Sean on all things Shawn blue Sky Twitch YouTube,
<v Speaker 3>you can find me putting stuff up here. I brought
<v Speaker 3>some stuff back with me from EVO, so I did
<v Speaker 3>some interviews. I interviewed the producer of Virtue Fighter viv
<v Speaker 3>Revo and the producer on the new Virtual Fire game.
<v Speaker 3>Did video interviews with both of them that I'm going
<v Speaker 3>to be pulling up on YouTube. I'm hoping no later
<v Speaker 3>than tomorrow, I'll have at least one of them to
<v Speaker 3>put up, and then the r one hopefully will be
<v Speaker 3>like the day after. I should also be gaining transcriptions
<v Speaker 3>done to put those on the website if people would
<v Speaker 3>read them. Let's see what else did I do when
<v Speaker 3>I was out there, did show Fighter, did Invincible Versus
<v Speaker 3>mentioned that topless show. I'd like to check all that
<v Speaker 3>footage out with telling you guys, I'll get you and
<v Speaker 3>Mike kind of call me and talk over it. Let's
<v Speaker 3>do it, and then help me with the pronunciation stump
<v Speaker 3>out with names. Dan Amrick over at Digital Eclipse.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think, yes, I think so. Yeah, Okay, yeah, I.
<v Speaker 3>Had to chat with him about the Mortal Kombat collection,
<v Speaker 3>and because he yeah, because he's old games media, we
<v Speaker 3>went off into many of any tangents that were very,
<v Speaker 3>very fun and just talking, yeah, talking some fun stories
<v Speaker 3>about like his relationship with Moral Komba and stuff. I'll
<v Speaker 3>see what that gets turned into. Maybe I could do
<v Speaker 3>like an audio tu video thing to put up on YouTube,
<v Speaker 3>but otherwise, yeah, that'll also be something that'll transcribe and
<v Speaker 3>pup on site.
<v Speaker 2>No, fantastic, looking forward to that.
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you were able to get out there and
<v Speaker 1>enjoy EVO and looking forward to seeing all the fruits
<v Speaker 1>of the labor. Oh right, let's see, we already did
<v Speaker 1>the new poll question, so I think we could probably
<v Speaker 1>just tell everybody what's going on on Giant Bomb for
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the week as well as the rest
<v Speaker 1>of today. Checking the calendar. Oh yeah, we're gonna play
<v Speaker 1>Grounded two at two pm. No Blake Club today because
<v Speaker 1>Dan is still out on assignment. We will have Blake
<v Speaker 1>Club tomorrow at three pm. On Thursday at three pm,
<v Speaker 1>we should be able to wrap up hinp my Riker.
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I'm going to force stand to finish that
<v Speaker 1>because I'm done with it. It's starting to torture me now
<v Speaker 1>and I don't like that. So we'll do Gratitude today
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe get some other stuff going. There should
<v Speaker 1>be another quick Look Look going up later this week.
<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, me and Mike did Gradius. That'll be
<v Speaker 1>happening later this week. Voicemail Dump Truck will be earlier
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow twelve thirty pm Eastern time. We got to move
<v Speaker 1>things around again so we could do Blake Club, and
<v Speaker 1>then on Friday upf we're gonna play Sunderfolk, which is
<v Speaker 1>this multiplayer tactics game where everyone has their controls on
<v Speaker 1>their phone. Seems like a cool idea looking forward to it.
<v Speaker 1>I think that and that Wild Star Wildgate game. Those
<v Speaker 1>are both from Mike.
<v Speaker 2>Morheims Studio or publisher.
<v Speaker 3>I guess I should say.
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh yeah, I'm interested, and didn't realize they
<v Speaker 1>had these interesting multiplayer games happening right now. But both
<v Speaker 1>of those seem to be popping off, so maybe check
<v Speaker 1>out one or the other. But Cunderfolk will definitely happen
<v Speaker 1>on the website. All right, that is gonna do it. Sean,
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for Harry hanging out with me
<v Speaker 1>today and talking about video games.
<v Speaker 2>Man, I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's a fun time, Jeff, thanks for having me on.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep, thank you. Thank you everybody for watching and listening.
<v Speaker 1>You're the best audience in gaming. Until next time, have
<v Speaker 1>a good one, take care of yourself, and goodbye.