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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I have the point spreads for the next two games, the Final four with March Madness. We'll start there then work our way back. Illinois is favored by one and a half against Connecticut. Michigan is favored by one and a half against Arizona. Who needs cinderellas. These were great games. The Michigan Arizona game. You're gonna hear people say, well, that should be for the national title.

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Speaker 3: Well it's not.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like Seattle against San Francisco or you know, hey, that should be for the Super Bowl, but it's not. Now USA Russia for the Olympic gold medal, but it wasn't. It was the previous game. Illinois is you know, you got to watch them, And this is what happens with some of these schools. You're kind of forced to watch them because they're the ones playing in these big game. Illinois not a fluke. They are a big team, good team, got a really good coach. And you know, watching that game against Iowa, they're relentless. And you know, I look at Yukon. I don't think this is a great Yukon team, not even a really good team. It's just a team and sometimes that's all you need when you get to this point in the season. And Danny Hurtley's done a great job. You know, I don't think they have a go to guy, and they hung in there. You're down fifteen against Duke.

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Speaker 3: You don't lose.

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Speaker 2: Duke doesn't lose those games, right, Yes they do. It was nineteen points at one point in the game. And then you start to look Duke's last four losses. Led by fourteen against Houston in the Final four, lost, led by seventeen against Texas Tech, lost, led by thirteen against North Carolina, lost, led by nineteen against Connecticut yesterday and lost.

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Speaker 4: Stell of the Day, stant a day, stant out a day, stant out a day.

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Speaker 3: This is the style of the.

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Speaker 2: Dame stat of the Day, brought to you by Panini America. Ten seconds left in the game and do cat a time out? Possession arrow to Connecticut. And you know these are things you take for granted. You want the ball in your ball handler's hands and they had that. You know, do you panic in a moment like that?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Uh? Do things are?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: They speed up? You know, same thing with Chris Weber.

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Speaker 2: If you know you can't call a timeout, but you get in that moment you call a timeout. Uh, you start to look at okay, did you try to go over the top? Could you go over the top? You're trying to If you get it over the top, you get a dunk, the game is over, or worst case scenario, let them foul you, or you know you don't want to get the possession arrow then all of a sudden, Connecticut is going to have more time on the clock.

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Speaker 3: But you can't call time out.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm sure John Shire said all of those things to his team in that last time out. But here is the head coach of Duke starting with the question.

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Speaker 4: What was going through your mind on that last possession?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you just we just have to secure it, right, I mean, we got it, they had to foul. I was ready for a timeout and we just got to hold on. And you know, it's easy to look at that play. You know, I look at every play that happened, especially in the second half. This is not about one play. It's about every play to put us in that position. And that's what you don't want to do, where one play something can happen and so for me, look, it's it's going to be tough, but it's not gonna be on one play.

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Speaker 3: And he's right about that.

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Speaker 2: Give Connecticut credit for staying in that moment. You're down fifteen, you're down nineteen, but you're chipping away little things, rebounds, turnovers, points off turnovers. That was the difference. Duke played a perfect first half, perfect And when Charles Barkley said, I don't see Connecticut coming back, and I go, Connecticut's gonna win this game. Because Charles is never right on his bets. But they hung in there, and this is how it sounded. Here is the Duke call on the game winner.

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Speaker 1: Boozer hobbled it.

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Speaker 3: Back for Sarro and he needs to get rid of it. Dozer Kaida seven.

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Speaker 1: Seconds, try to throw it ahead, deflected, stolen by Connecticut two seconds.

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Speaker 3: It's Smolan's upside for the win. Oh hit it with three tents of.

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Speaker 1: A second ago. Cala Kai Smith ran off the bench.

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Speaker 6: That should be a.

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Speaker 1: Technical well with three cents of a second ago. Connecticut has the least seventy three to seventy two.

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Speaker 3: That's a courtesy of the Blue Devil Sports Network. Yes, Paul. People on social.

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Speaker 7: Media when they heard the duke announcer try to grab a t nicoll for a player on the bench running two steps out of the court to celebrate, they said, that's the most duke thing of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there was another game yesterday that was one of the Oh by the way, oh yeah, Michigan ended up. Whenning, You're like, who's the other team that played yesterday? All that's right, Yeah, I got the title. Odds According to DraftKings, Michigan and Arizona have the best odds. They play each other, then it's Illinois and Connecticut. So it's Arizona and Michigan plus one seventy five. Illinois is plus four hundred Yukon plus five point fifty. Here is the Yukon call of the game winner.

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Speaker 8: When Booza the double them back to sar now I head the Kag and Boozer have a steal, Bullins gets it.

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Speaker 3: It's caravan to Bullen's long rights.

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Speaker 7: Three Bolan's delivers Deadloe that love here.

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Speaker 2: That's courtesy of the Yukon Sports Network from lear Field. And you know that's that's not a heave. That was just a long jumper for a kid who in high school, made about forty seven percent of his three pointers. He was one of the mister Indiana basketball players. And you know, twenty years ago he doesn't end up at Connecticut, He's at Indiana. But boy, times have changed, and you start to look at the list of great players that Connecticut has had and has nothing really to show for it. Duke, I should say Jason Chatum's Ion Williamson, Cooper Flag, Polo Bankaro Cam Boozer, Kan Kinnipple, RJ. Barrett, cam Reddish, Marvin Bagley. You know, I think it was probably ten years ago when we had coach k On and I said, you know, would you rather have the one and done or have the guy who's staying there three or four years? He said, you can't pass up the one and done. And this isn't necessarily an indictment on the one and done, because you can't pass up Zion or Cooper Flag or the Boozers. But you do need those seasoned guys, you do, and I think you know Yukon's approaches. Let's get one of those guys and then we're gonna have guys who are going to stay two or three years or maybe four years with Red.

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Speaker 3: And you do need that.

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Speaker 2: But it was fun to watch, you know, cause it was halftime and I thought, I gotta find something else to do, and let me watch the golf.

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Speaker 3: And then all of a.

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Speaker 2: Sudden, flip back and I go, all right, they get it to like seven, and then they got it to seven, and you get it to five, and then all of a sudden, it's three. Now, all of a sudden. That's where you wonder when we talk about comebacks, how much energy do you have once you get back and you're tied or getting really close. It takes a lot of energy to get to that point. You're down fifteen, you're down nineteen, nothing's going your way. You're not shooting well at all. Yukon was five to twenty three from three point range, out rebounded by six, and they still won. But what three of those five came in the last couple of minutes. Those were the big ones. And Braylan Mullins Darren Revel, who keeps track of these things, said that the basketball from that shot may be worth up the three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wonder where that ball is. I don't know how you get it. See it's weird, is it yours?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just Basketball Hall of Fame, and it's one of those shots that's going to be worth a whole lot more if Duke wins or a Connecticut wins the national championship. By the way, there's so many people who had no interest in either team, probably except for please don't let Duke win.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: It's not necessarily Hey, I'm rooting for Connecticut. You're rooting for Connecticut because you're not rooting for Duke. And I started to wonder, is there any other school and it's a tribute to Duke that you know, notre Dame Football Yankees? Who else do you throw in? The Cowboys, the Lakers? Maybe where you just don't want them to win, and it feels like Duke is above all of them. You know that we can't agree on anything as a country, but I think for the most part, people agree they don't want to see Duke succeed. But this isn't a team you dislike. I mean the Boozers, I mean Shires. You know, there's nothing antagonistic or not wild or crazy like Dan. You're not polarizing. It's just the history and it's a testament to that brand that it still resonates. People don't dislike Notre Dame like this. I mean, you like their head coach, The Lakers, Okay, the Yankees they haven't won, you know, Cowboys, they haven't won.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Paulie, I think it's one hundred percent right. Duke is at a different echelon of people enjoy watching them lose. No matter who it's to. You just take the other side because they really haven't had a long term dip. The past ten years haven't been great, but it's not a dip dip.

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Speaker 2: We will talk to Seth Greenberg for the Mothership. He'll stop by watching Michigan. Michigan in Arizona, Man, they don't mess around, even though Arizona wasn't making their threes. But Michigan with Dusty may So in his last four years, he brought Florida Atlantic to a Final four, brought Michigan to the Sweet sixteen in his first year in ann Arbor. Now he has the Wolverines in the Final four. I did reach out to a college source. I said, hey, what are the chances that these two coaches coaching in the Michigan and Arizona game are one of the two is going to go to North Carolina, and I was told that as of late last night, North Carolina doesn't believe that either one will be leaving their schools. North Carolina is still not sure about the Kansas situation. They don't want to lose a great candidate. Billy Donovan is still in focus on their radar North Carolina, and as my source said, he has not said no. And people he listens to won him out of Chicago. Sure, there's probably some others he's not listening to that want him out of there, but yeah, so that's as of late last night, my source. You start to look at the largest blown leads in tournament history. Iona Blew a twenty five point lead in twenty twelve to twenty two point lead in two thousand and one, Cincinnati in twenty eighteen to twenty two point lead West Virginia, five twenty point Tennessee, and seven twenty points North Carolina. This year's tournament nineteen Duke, this year's tournament nineteen stat of your day, sat of the day, that past stat of the day, stat of the day year comes that what.

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Speaker 4: Stat of the day.

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Speaker 2: But you know, with the advent of the three pointer and you know, the proliferation of three pointers taken in a game, you get that opportunity to come back because if you make them, you can make the comeback, and if you're missing them, you allow.

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Speaker 3: For the comeback. All right, see what's poll question for the first hour of the program? Is the classic right here? Mm hmmm, Duke blew that game? Or Yukon won the game? Oh, Duke blew that game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't be up by nineteen and then forget how you got up by nineteen because they played defense. They were so great on the perimeter plan defense, and then all of a sudden they forgotten. I was told yesterday during the game North Carolina is playing not to lose in the second half, and it felt like Yukon and maybe Danny Hurley just said, hey, just keep going, chip away, chip away, chip away, chip away, hang in there, and you know, then they ended up getting those rebounds and points off turnovers were huge for them. And then all of a sudden, doubts starts to creep in when you have a nineteen point lead and all of a sudden it's single digits. Now, all of a sudden, you're going, wait, what's happening? How did we get here? How do we hold on and survive?

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Speaker 3: And it was too late?

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Speaker 2: It felt like now, granted it took a miracle turnover and three pointer, but you allowed Connecticut to have that moment where they could win the game, and they took advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: Me make way for Tom Izzo, Michigan State head basketball coach won a title back in two thousand four, time Big Ten Coach of the Year joining us from his office. Doesn't look like anything's changed in that office, coach.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what, Dan it's good to talk to you. First of all, I wonder if I get a grill for talking to you. I like the grill. That was good, And and now you got grand Hill coming out. He's one of my favorites. So I'm just sandwich between a grill and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you want a grill.

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Speaker 4: Oh that sounded like it was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take care of that. Okay, I'll send you a grill.

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Speaker 2: Rec tackle, send you a grill, and you could have recruits in there, and uh, you know, I don't know if that's a violation.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not anymore. There are no rules you want. I could bring you in.

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Speaker 3: As a chef.

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Speaker 4: In fact, it's good, all right.

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Speaker 3: Best team you face this year?

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Speaker 4: Wow? I mean, I guess Michigan would have to be the most talented best team I faced. I thought Duke was awfully good impact. You know, you talk about a tough situation. Dan. I kept telling my assistants, and I thought John Shire did the best job he's ever done. You know. I thought that was a very good Duke team, but maybe not quite as talented as we're normally used to seeing. And they just kept winning. And that shows you how brutal. This tournament is. But you know, Michigan is one of the best. That we played Michigan. I do like UKR a lot. I think Illinois came on the best. So those are three teams in the final four. What the hell am I playing? Almost? I don't know many.

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Speaker 2: Losses, coach, I got you, Iowa Duke Michigan, Illinois perdue Michigan again and Connecticut.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were all in the uh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So you can never rip me about scheduling again the show. I don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I will never say that you're afraid to schedule somebody. But I remember when you played Yukon and the like an exhibition game. How does that happen between you and Dan Hurley?

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Speaker 4: Well, Danny called me. We're friends, you know, but we've gotten to be better friends as the year went on. Even But you know, I like Dan. I think he's certifiably crazy, yes, but I think he's uh. I think his passion, his love for his players, what he's done with that program has been phenomenal. And I just thought, one of my players, I'm always worried, are we tough enough? I knew his team was tough and when we went there just so you know, they kicked our butt. You know, it ended up like ten point game, but it was we got down twelve early, kind of like the game we played and never could catch out. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember watching that game and if you would have said which one of these teams is.

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Speaker 3: Going to go further?

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Speaker 2: I would have said Connecticut is going to go further in the tournament because while.

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Speaker 4: You have you know what Jenny cob would say, Oh, you Dan, you have a wonderful sense for the obvious.

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Speaker 3: So Hurley's good crazy, Yeah, yeah, I love them. But that moment that he.

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Speaker 2: Has with Roger Errs, can you explain that as a coach of in that moment out of body experience?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we have out a body experiences, you know, and ROGERR. Harrer is one of the better officials in the whole damn country. But you know, sometimes officials lose it. Sometimes coaches lose it. You know, we're supposed to be human. I think that's the cool part about it. We are human and that means, you know, we let our emotions get the best of us. It's an emotional game. But I think all in all, you'd say that most people have great respect for Dan.

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Speaker 2: Explain to me that last ten seconds with Duke, Like, let's say you're in the huddle and you know they're going to press, they may foul, So what do you tell your team.

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Speaker 3: To do in that moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd want him to get it to my best free throw shooter, to be honest with you, and I thought that Duke did everything right. It's you know, you got a freshman that just dribbled, and you know, I listened to Jay Billis talk about what Duke does at their practices, turn and face and you know what he's to say that when you get in the moment. And by the way, that freshman was unbelievable. Boozer was unbelievable early in the game, you know, and what he did the game before. So I listen, I've been at fifteen, got beaten by a two. I think John did an incredible job all year. And I always tell my team, you got to be good enough to get somewhere, which is the sweet sixteen. After that, you got to be lucky enough and healthy enough. They weren't real healthy, and that night they weren't real lucky. I'll give Ukon credit. I told Danny the next day, I said, I deserve some credit for your comeback because I showed you that a team could be nineteen down and come back and go ahead like we did, and that damn guy gave me no credit about you know, so, I don't know if I like Dan as much as I used to.

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Speaker 2: He did talk about having a conversation with you when he was thinking about going to the Lakers because you were thinking about going to the Kavalit.

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Speaker 3: What was the advice that you gave him at that time.

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't want to lose him in college basketball, because I think he's so good for it. But I did say we got to keep an eye on what's happening in our profession too, And I don't know what i'd do if it was today, you know, like he had a chance of a year or two ago, and I think things are so crazy in college athletics right now. I don't know if i'd feel different if I was to be very honest with you, because I think something has to be done with the insanity we're going through. But I don't think anybody else cares. So I'll just keep plucking along and see if I can get to a Final four.

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Speaker 2: Again, well, let's say that opportunity came up, given these circumstances with the Cavaliers.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know how old you were at the time, but.

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Speaker 4: Well I was a lot younger, but I bet, I bet you know more than a couple job offers in the in the NBA, And and looked at one last year with Phoenix, you know, and my former player Matt Historia, And that was hard. That was a hard thing to turn down because number one, I kind of wanted to go with him.

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Speaker 3: Number two, they offered you the head coaching job.

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Speaker 4: Well, we talked seriously about it. Let's say that. And then number two is you know, I've been pretty vocal about it. I don't like what's going on in college athletics, but by the way, neither do ninety nine point eight percent of the football and basketball coaches in America. And I think the kids are going to still find out before it's done. It's not best for them either. But in the meantime, you gotta do what you gotta do. And I'll let guys like you call me old school, but that means you're old school too, and I think we're both right school. So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: When the transfer portal opens. I've been told eleven hundred men's basketball players will be in the portal, eleven hundred eleven and one.

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Speaker 4: My wife's thinking to put me and too, And I guess I'm part of college basketball. But yeah, it's I mean, you tell me there's any sanity to that, and you tell me that's right. And you know what, people like you, media people don't do. Sorry, but since you guys can critique us, we can critique you guys once in a while. We never talk about the kids that lose and fail and all the problems that it creates and what it creates later in their life. We just talk about the successful quarterback who did it and led a team to here and there. But there's a lot of guys that fail, a lot more that failed than succeed. And I don't know where they're going to go when they've been to three four different schools. But I guess it's not my problem. I stayed put, so I'm still here.

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Speaker 2: Tom Izzoe, Michigan State head basketball coach. Do kids have to go to class anymore? Because I bring up that used to be when I was going to school, you could be academically ineligible. Athletes were academically ineligible. I haven't heard anybody be academically and eligible in a few years here.

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Speaker 3: Coach boy, I.

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Speaker 4: Love that statement. First of all, they do here. I think they do it a lot of places. But second of all, you scold my line from earlier. You know, are there any rules? Are there? Is there any accountability? I mean it seems like if you don't like something, get a lawyer and go sue. And so, I don't know. I don't know what most schools do.

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Speaker 10: I know this.

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Speaker 4: I'm a couple of weeks away from going to my thirty fifth straight graduation. I've seen every player here graduate that has graduated, which has been a high percentage. And yeah, we still go to class here, Dan, we.

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Speaker 3: Really do anybody in the tournament? Did you recruit Mullins?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 7: I did.

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Speaker 4: I told him in the line too, that he made a bad He said, why, I said, you just cost me a champion.

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Speaker 3: You think you had him, you'd be still playing.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll put it this way, he's a pretty good player. And he is. Ironically, this is a true story. He's from Indiana and my trainer is from his high school. And real good friends with his dad. So when we didn't get him, I fired my trainer.

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Speaker 3: And rightfully. So if you're thinking you're in right, I mean, if you got him, don't you.

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Speaker 4: Oh No, he was recruited by a lot of people, and I never felt that comfortable about getting him. But I just said, we recruited him, but he was. He's a hell of a player, you know. And he even had some injuries this year, you know, and that early on when we played him the first time. But that kid's going to be He's just going to get better and better as his body fills out. He's six', six he's he can shoot the ball pretty good from, long, long. Long, yeah that was a looking SHOT i sort of. Got he can shoot it from.

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Speaker 2: There the McDonald's All American, game it feels like everybody's between six five and six eight and they all do the same. Thing if you go back to the old McDonald's All American, game you might have Had Kenny anderson in. There then you would have a shack like we don't have, that you, know separation of a six footer and a seven footer feels like everybody's around the same height doing the same.

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Speaker 4: Thing, well we had to get in, there you, Know Josiah jervis it was six four or six y. Five, Yeah AND i think you're. Right there was a lot of that in those. Games AND i think that's because we've got a lot of position this. Basketball the big guys have kind of gone by the wayside. Sorta BUT i do THINK i Think Charles barkley And shack those guys think the big guys coming. BACK i do think When edie in our, league you, know the seven to four, kid AND i think the big guys are going to come. BACK i think everything's. Cyclical you, know everybody gets into this three point shooting because it's the new sexy. Thing and you, know at the end of the, DAY i still think you got to be balanced in what you.

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Speaker 2: Do Ryan day At Ohio state was talking about if you don't, adapt you die in. College well he was talking about college, football or you. RETIRE i mean the guys who are you know right there with you or were they've all retired or they retired. Earlier, YEAH i Mean caliperio And patino are still doing it and you but you guys are.

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Speaker 3: Dinosaurs what a? Compliment, YES i.

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Speaker 4: Think, YEAH i Think i'll retire BEFORE i, die, Hopefully but you KNOW i do talk To Ryan. Day you, Know Nick saban's a guy that you know when he went, OUT i, said, wow you, know Because nick AND i started here together AND i just Thought nick would go till. Forever and but you, KNOW i don't think it's any secret That i'm not saying what everybody's. Doing but the process is making this more difficult of a. JOB i, mean you don't just coach. Anymore you talk to, agents you talk to, people you raise.

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Speaker 2: Money But Tony bennett retires And Jay wright. RETIRE i mean they retire.

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Speaker 4: Good guys, too and good coaches and good friends of. Mine AND i Think i'm just too stubborn to, retire you, Know LIKE i feel good to be honest with, You, DAN i still have the. ENERGY i still love my. PLAYERS i don't love my, profession but that's three out of four hour on my. Side SO i got to deal with the. Profession Like ryan, said adapt, Somewhat but adapt doesn't mean all of a, sudden there's no, rules there's no. ACCOUNTABILITY i mean what we're going through, NOW i, mean anytime there's a, problem just get a lawyer and fix, it you, know AND i guess lawyers must be that, good or.

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Speaker 2: Judges but do these kids do these kids ask you for? Money do they say this is WHAT i. WANT i asked them for money, Now.

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Speaker 3: But do they do they have an? Intermediary?

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah yeah They, okay, okay so they don't, say, all come To Michigan, STATE i want two and a half million.

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Speaker 3: Dollars, no his parents and his agency. Though, okay but you're not involved in.

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Speaker 4: That oh, YEAH i am. Here you. KNOW i hear all these guys GOT gms and all. THAT i JUST i think it's, Great BUT i think at the end of the, day they head coaches making the. Decisions you, know like in THE nba AND, nfl it's different because there's salary. Caps everybody, knows there's. Transparency IF i looked at everything we're, Doing, dan THE, u THE nil, tampering the as you say it's going to open next, week the transfer. Portal IF i had one Thing i'd like to, change it would be just, transparency so we all know what everybody's making and doing and then we're not getting lied to by. Everybody transparency would really help the profession right.

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Speaker 3: Now but, okay what if.

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Speaker 2: Magic johnson said, Here, HEY i got ten million dollars That i'm going to give that you can. Use, okay could you use his ten million? Dollars do you have to report that you're using his ten million? Dollars how does that? Work, yeah you sort of. DO i mean they said that was a, new big. Rule they're going through this clearing. HOUSE i don't think any of them. Work you heard about rev. Share you know where eight school is going to get five six million.

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Speaker 4: Dollars in football programs they're going to get sixteen seventeen million. Dollars people are way beyond those at a lot of. Places so that would, Help BUT i don't think that would solve, everything but.

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Speaker 3: Coaching dan the best.

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Speaker 4: Players there's a lot of programs out. THERE i spent a lot of money and didn't even get past the first. Weekend so it's not always about the money.

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Speaker 2: Either, no but it feels like there's still back in the day when you know things illegal and under the, table it still feels like you can do that in college.

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Speaker 3: Athletics you.

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Speaker 2: Can there's no reason why you can't do something, illegal and it's that it's going on right now just because they have this nil and every you, know transfer. Portal somebody can give somebody money if they, want or a car or a house or a, job.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent in my. Om now they wouldn't say, that but to, me the nil means pay for, play and you can just pay them to play. Them and the only difference is it's it's still sort of, illegal but it's not. Illegal that's that's so. Hard that's what's so. Confusing and who who says what's legal and not legal? Anymore you, KNOW i don't.

00:30:49
Speaker 3: Know but did we solve anything with this? Conversation, YEAH i still.

00:30:54
Speaker 4: Enjoy behind your show because you're, Crazy and, UH i probably got a new grill AND i get the Watch Grant hill After i'm, done And magic just gave me ten, million and.

00:31:05
Speaker 5: We figure.

00:31:06
Speaker 4: THAT i still Figure John shire did a hell of a job and it's gonna be a hell of A final. Four there's a lot of good teams in. It BUT i feel good about our run this, year AND i feel LIKE i fell short. Again so one of these days you're gonna have me on From indianapolis or wherever The final four is and not from my. Office so it looks so boring to.

00:31:26
Speaker 3: You, yeah, yeah stop disappointing. Me is't it In detroit next?

00:31:31
Speaker 4: Year?

00:31:32
Speaker 3: Yes there you.

00:31:34
Speaker 4: Go SO i say that if we can get there next, year you should do your show from.

00:31:39
Speaker 3: There how about how about if you win next? Year would you? Retire a walk off In? Michigan now you know WHAT i?

00:31:50
Speaker 4: Mean people asked me that last year because we were one step from the final. Four if you do, it you're gonna you, KNOW i don't have any interest in retiring right. NOW i don't think it would. Be it would be Because i'm sick of the. Circumstances it's not going to be Because i'm sick of, coaching sick of the, players love my. University the circumstances get to. Us but winning or not wouldn't change.

00:32:12
Speaker 3: That you could walk off and walk right to THE nba.

00:32:16
Speaker 4: COACH i, go walk off and rock right to my beach.

00:32:19
Speaker 3: House, yeah and right to your rectech. Grill there you, go And i'd be thing, like, open thank, you. Coach Thanks. Dan that's tom Is, Hill michigan state head.

00:32:33
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00:32:46
Speaker 3: News, paulie.

00:32:50
Speaker 7: It's so saucy that we're playing the guess THE nfl news.

00:32:55
Speaker 3: Game, okay, Well Aaron rodgers is coming.

00:32:58
Speaker 7: Back, Okay Kirk cousins has signed a contract for next. Season? Okay whom has he signed a contract?

00:33:07
Speaker 4: With?

00:33:07
Speaker 3: Todd The?

00:33:10
Speaker 4: Browns and and get another?

00:33:11
Speaker 3: Quarterback all, Right.

00:33:14
Speaker 8: Satan this was described as lightly. Saucy it's a bit confusing as a strategy for this. Team, okay how about The? Steelers he signed with The? Steelers?

00:33:26
Speaker 3: Then, Okay marvin.

00:33:30
Speaker 4: The.

00:33:31
Speaker 7: Vikings we Guess, no that's saucy, Though, yeah.

00:33:37
Speaker 3: How about The?

00:33:37
Speaker 7: Rams according to his, Agent Kirk cousins has signed with The. Raiders what, okay The Las Vegas. RAIDERS i, checked they're still In.

00:33:48
Speaker 4: Vegas, okay.

00:33:50
Speaker 3: What i'm good with?

00:33:52
Speaker 2: It why BECAUSE i don't Want mendoza if he's not ready to start right, away and even if he does start right, away you Got Kirk cousins. There he knows that he's not going to be going to be. Starting you, know the future is right, There Fernando. Mendoza he knows That Kirk cousins be a great. Soldier There i'm okay with. That, YEAH i have a problem with.

00:34:17
Speaker 5: It what.

00:34:21
Speaker 3: Why why do you have a problem with?

00:34:23
Speaker 2: That?

00:34:24
Speaker 8: Why, then why are you going to take a quarterback number one overall and then have him immediately step into the king of quarterback?

00:34:34
Speaker 2: Controversies there's no controversy, Here, no there is, no there's no none With kirk De.

00:34:40
Speaker 3: Cousins, Yes, PAUL i.

00:34:42
Speaker 7: Got a couple things on. This you bring In Kirk, cousins that means you're spending money you didn't need to. Spend you could Let aidan O'Connell get thrown to the walls for seven, games, okay and then bring In. Mendoza, secondly what If Kirk cousins plays really, well what's the?

00:34:57
Speaker 3: Plan Like Fernando mendoza is the?

00:34:59
Speaker 4: Plan?

00:35:00
Speaker 3: Okay why did you just Sign Kirk. Cousins how much AM i Paying Kirk? Cousins they haven't. Released i'm probably not paying.

00:35:05
Speaker 8: Him anywhere in the ballpark of seventy five a year, apparently because that's about what his agent is able to.

00:35:10
Speaker 3: Do let's say it was.

00:35:11
Speaker 7: Eight million a year for two. Years each year's eight that's really, light, Right you could spend that on a.

00:35:16
Speaker 3: Guard how many quarterbacks go through the entire year playing every.

00:35:22
Speaker 7: Game third, point is there any chance they're not Drafting mendoza with a number one pick and after this, signing.

00:35:31
Speaker 3: There's no Shas, okay.

00:35:35
Speaker 7: If you are you Bringing Kirk, cousins it now gives you the flexibility to trade down with that.

00:35:41
Speaker 2: Pick, Okay i've said that for a, while that that's what IF i was running The. Raiders IF i don't feel LIKE i have a great offensive line AND i got a rookie head coach And i'm going to bring in a rookie, quarterback DO i want to trade down and maybe get four first round draft? Picks OR i could trade him to The jet trade the pick to The jets and get four first round draft?

00:36:04
Speaker 3: Picks does that make more.

00:36:05
Speaker 2: SENSE i don't Think Fernando mendoza is A Andrew Luck John elway, generational BUT i do think he is a great person to represent your. Franchise he played big and big. GAMES i like EVERYTHING i, HEAR i like EVERYTHING i. SEE i don't know if He's Lamar jackson Or Josh allen Or Joe. BURROW i don't think he's in that. Category and you, know not many quarterbacks are in fairness to, HIM i JUST i got to make sure THAT i have a good, team not necessarily just a good. Quarterback Clint kubiak is the new head. Coach he was a former coordinator With KIRK. D. Cousins they spent three years. Together Clint kubiak would not bring In Kirk cousins to disrupt what they're trying to. Do he would Bring Kirk cousin in and, say you're gonna be kind of my quarterbacks. Coach you're a backup quarterback here BECAUSE i can't imagine you go boy open for, competition because THAT i don't think helps anybody.

00:37:08
Speaker 3: Here, Yes, tom whatever.

00:37:09
Speaker 11: Happened to those feared Nasty silver And Black raiders you're talking About Kirk cousins and, men those a couple of choir.

00:37:15
Speaker 7: Boys those are your?

00:37:16
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks that is so bizarre for those to Be.

00:37:19
Speaker 3: Raiders, Yes, paul you have to.

00:37:20
Speaker 7: Agree it's a shocking strategy for a team that seems to be on the build and not ready to.

00:37:27
Speaker 4: Win.

00:37:27
Speaker 2: NOW i like, it But i'd like it BECAUSE i Know kirk cousins personality. Here this Isn't Michael. Pennix this to me is different than that Because atlanta brought In Kirk cousins and paid him all of that. Money, now all of a, sudden you, go wait a, minute what did you do with that draft? Pick, now that to me was a crazy. Strategy this Is. Kirk you're not going to get, paid you, know anywhere near what you've been paid. Before you want to come.

00:37:57
Speaker 3: In you can be a.

00:37:58
Speaker 2: Backup you know the head, coach you've worked with. Him we want you to come. In we want you to Help Fernando mendoza be a better, quarterback a ready. Quarterback, Yes, Stan so if you're The jets right, NOW i Mean i'm on the phone to The, Raiders so what do you want for number? One wait a, minute you Got Geno. SMITH i know it's going to lead you to the promise.

00:38:22
Speaker 8: Line that's a perfect guy to not have a quarterback controversy.

00:38:25
Speaker 2: WITH i would if you really Want Fernando, mendoza If i'm The jets and maybe you've got a chance to get it, right THEN i would be all in On Fernando. Mendoza and If i'm The, RAIDERS i have to at least listen to.

00:38:40
Speaker 3: This and if you.

00:38:45
Speaker 2: As long AS i have confidence in my scouting department and those making the draft picks WHEN i get these first round. Pigs BUT i don't know IF i would be totally confident with.

00:38:55
Speaker 7: That, Yes, paul you do this twenty hours After Fernando mendoza's PRO i wonder if they're thinking The raiders our plan is to have a sit here For, mendoza and this is a great option to have a full planned sit here Like. MAHOMES i don't have a problem with, it, right you like. THAT i don't want him to get beat. Up you're gonna get beat up even when you have a good.

00:39:18
Speaker 2: TEAM i don't want you to get beat up when you don't have a good team or a good offensive.

00:39:23
Speaker 3: Line that's the only thing THAT i worry about With.

00:39:26
Speaker 2: Mendoza if he has a good offensive, LINE i think he's got the arm, strength the, quality the. INTANGIBLES i think he can be a really good. Quarterback here Is Fernando mendoza on being the number one.

00:39:39
Speaker 4: Pick that's whole process is essentially for you of this need to be the top. Pick, yes what's some a mentor physical approach to all the components?

00:39:48
Speaker 7: Back, YEAH i wouldn't really say that in the mentality of trying to be the.

00:39:52
Speaker 4: Topic i'm just trying to be the best of me.

00:39:53
Speaker 12: Possible and in that, aspect whatever he picks, me you only need one team to believe in, you whether you're the first, pick the last, pick. Whatever And i'm just trying to be the best QUARTERBACK i can be In september rather than right now here In.

00:40:06
Speaker 4: April So i'm putting all my effort.

00:40:08
Speaker 12: Towards you, know it's just trying to be the best best quarterback possible for the.

00:40:12
Speaker 2: Season he just seems like he was spit out of a computer OR ai or. Something there you, go here you. Go he gives you the answers that you want to. Hear and also his approach to a pro day wasn't a let me show you throws THAT i probably will never have in my. Career, hey let me roll, left throw right for sixty. Yards and he even, said how often do you throw the ball forty? Yards all you're doing is trying to replicate what throws you're going to have in a. Game and if you watch AN nfl game, now for the most, part how often do you see a pass that's forty.

00:40:51
Speaker 3: Yards down the? Field not very?

00:40:53
Speaker 2: Often AND i think that's What mendoza's approach, is, hey if it's, there going to take. It and now you Have Tom brady to reinforce, that Because, brady if it was, there you take. IT i don't need to do anything. CRAZY i don't need to try to force. Anything if it's, There i'll take. It i'll take advantage of that until you try to stop me with. This So mendoza is going to Have Kirk cousins And Tom. BRADY i like that insulation. There, now you just got to make sure that offensive line is going to stand, up and if it, does this can be a success. Story i'm fine with Kirk cousins coming. In, wait how often do we talk, about, man it really valuable to have a backup quarterback who can. Play used to be a backup quarterback had a visor on and he had a. Clipboard he wasn't in a. Headset, now you really have to make sure that you're ready when somebody gets.

00:41:53
Speaker 3: Hurt, Yes, morvin what if.

00:41:55
Speaker 11: The raiders start out owing through With Kirk cousins as their, starter isn't it gonna be pressure to Throw mendoza in.

00:41:59
Speaker 4: There, yeah he'll throw him in there. Anyway, No, NO i.

00:42:03
Speaker 2: Want him ready when he's. READY i don't want him to be ready because he's the number one pick in the. DRAFT i think teams have made that mistake. Before is he? Ready you'll know he's. Ready he'll know he's. READY i don't want to, go, hey fans are coming out to see. You that shouldn't be the. Approach And Tom brady knows. That he knows that better than. Anybody his words to. Me IF i was drafted in the first, ROUND i wouldn't have lasted in THE nfl because he wasn't. Ready, mendoza we assume is, ready but he's the he's the best quarterback in the. Draft, well that doesn't mean that he is ready to start take over THE. Nfl there should be an easing in. Process that's the APPROACH i would. Have and if Kirk cousins plays, Well i'd say, awesome BUT i wouldn't, go, oh we can't Put mendoza in. There you'll put him in when he's, Ready, Yes.

00:43:01
Speaker 7: PAUL i also wonder how many options Kirk cousins had at this. Point he's a good starter who's a little, old but not a thousand years. Old but he's Not you're not going to hand over your franchise to him at this. Juncture but he's not bad enough or average enough.

00:43:16
Speaker 3: To be just a gap.

00:43:18
Speaker 2: Guy, WELL i thought he was going to go back To. MINNESOTA i thought that, that you, know because THE jj McCarthy. Situation, yes, yeah you, know he's saw trying to sit with it a little bit. More but, Yeah mendoza is sort of a more Athletic Kirk.

00:43:35
Speaker 3: Cousins.

00:43:36
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah so you're sort of bringing a guy in to show him the ropes who plays almost exactly the same way you.

00:43:43
Speaker 3: Do, yeah so like efficiency and you, know BUT.

00:43:48
Speaker 2: I See mendoza As Joe, flacco maybe a more Athletic Joe flacco size. Arm And i've said before If mendoza has A Joe flacco, Career i'd sign up for If i'm A raider. Fan nothing to be ashamed of with What Joe flacco. DID i just think we're looking At mendoza maybe unfairly in, saying, oh there's your. Guy he's a generational. TALENT i don't know if he's, that BUT i. DID i love WHAT i hear from, him AND i loved his approach to A pro. Day he acted like a pro at a pro, day not a college kid who's trying to impress you with these throws that he probably won't even have in his.

00:44:31
Speaker 3: CAREER i don't Want Zach. Wilson Remember Zach wilson.

00:44:36
Speaker 2: Rolled, Left he throw back right sixty? Yards oh my, GOODNESS i want to know what you. Do five yards, there seven yards, there ten yards. There that's WHAT i want to, know because those ARE nfl. Throws you can. Stand what was it last? YEAR i had to prove To JOHN CALIPERI i could throw the ball fifty. YARDS i don't know where it's, going.

00:45:00
Speaker 4: But that's not the. End it's not THE.

00:45:02
Speaker 2: Nfl, MAN i can throw it sixty. Yards Jeff george had the best, arm maybe one of the best ARMS i ever. Saw they'd, go, man he can throw it sixty. Yards Kyle buller he was on his knees at the fifty yard line and he could throw the ball fifty yards from his.

00:45:18
Speaker 3: Knees AND i, go that doesn't happen in THE. Nfl like he's, down the play is.

00:45:26
Speaker 2: Over but they're, like, man did you see him throw from his. Knees Joe montana did not have a great. Arm Steve young did not have a great. Arm they Had Great. Aim they had great. Touch that's what THE nfl. Is, man he can throw the ball right through a. Building why would you do?

00:45:45
Speaker 5: That?

00:45:46
Speaker 3: YEAH i have very good news For Kirk.

00:45:48
Speaker 8: Cousins there are at least Eight coals in the Greater Los Angeles Las vegas, area which we know is Very.

00:45:56
Speaker 3: He's a Huge coals. Shop oh that's, right, yeah, yeah news for. Him all The Eddie bauer you can. Have, Yeah ole's cash coming in. Hand he's going to have the plaid dress shirts that he would wear.

00:46:09
Speaker 7: Weather oh.

00:46:10
Speaker 3: Yeah david In, Ohio, Hi, david what's on your mind?

00:46:13
Speaker 4: Today? Hey?

00:46:16
Speaker 6: Dan with The Kirk cousins. News going to The Las Vegas. Raiders, uh who was also affiliated With Great. Clips him And Mark davis can go and get the same bolt cut they get their.

00:46:26
Speaker 4: Haircut SO i.

00:46:28
Speaker 2: Think kirk has a little better haircut Than mark Doesk. Uh let's See.

00:46:35
Speaker 3: Jeremy In New. York, Hi, jeremy what's on your mind? Today?

00:46:40
Speaker 4: Morning?

00:46:40
Speaker 3: Dan hope you guys are doing really.

00:46:41
Speaker 10: Well six' four. One, Five, So dan you've had this incredible list of guests and interviews over, the years but one missing name keeps popping up to ME and i don't want to kick up, Any dust but would you ever Consider Having jim? Rome on you hang it up in a couple.

00:47:01
Speaker 2: OF years i asked him, years ago and we Are At super Bowl in tampa and, he, said oh you're not allowed to have me ON because i WAS. AT espn, i, Go yeah i'll have. You on HOW about i have you on and you'll have me on and the same time on our, radio shows kind of. A simulcast he didn't want to.

00:47:24
Speaker 3: DO it i was open. To it BUT would I Have jim rome?

00:47:29
Speaker 6: ON now i.

00:47:31
Speaker 3: DON'T know i haven't really thought. About it two years down. The road jim might not want to. COME on i. DON'T know i have no relationship. With him todd. Knows him you Worked With jim rome That, dead yeah a few?

00:47:48
Speaker 4: Years?

00:47:49
Speaker 3: Okay uh.

00:47:52
Speaker 10: Is that what the?

00:47:52
Speaker 11: Show was talked to the SHOW on espn two Called talk To In, Los angeles AND then i worked for a week or two on his radio show many. YEARS ago a week, or, two yeah because we were DOING the. Tv SHOW but i think he took the radio show on the Road To New york city for. A WEEK so i produced the radio show for like. THAT week i don't know if We're A super bowl week.

00:48:09
Speaker 3: Or something what did he know you if he? Saw?

00:48:11
Speaker 2: You, yes, okay hey there was a time, You. Know jim jim changed the sports. RADIO industry, i mean. Very INFLUENTIAL but i have no idea who who's on the guest list here for the next? Two years you? Know what put it down? Right Down jim. Rome, question yeah who else are we?

00:48:35
Speaker 3: Having On. Colin cowherd we're Gonna have Colin on let's bring them?

00:48:39
Speaker 4: All out sure you?

00:48:42
Speaker 3: Want, TO yes pauli about four.

00:48:44
Speaker 7: YEARS ago I Alerted michael jordan's people that you're retiring in, five years five and a, half years and so groundwork. Was laid they, did say get back to me closer to.

00:48:54
Speaker 2: The, end okay it's in. An, email okay, ALL right i like. That, planning, yeah, Yeah alright so We gave jordan five year. Heads up yeah, He's, busy yeah but. Five years and not, only That but paul just preemptively took credit for its. Call in So now todd just got.

00:49:09
Speaker 8: Blocked out That, is todd you just the white whale just already got hooked by.

00:49:13
Speaker 2: Somebody else you were book, blocked sorry going, into retirement and you missed out On. Booking jordan that would Be. Like larry you, Know what Paulie B larry bird walking off with, his finger he sent in an email five. Years ago, YEES see i. Get, that yeah Pull credit paulie at the three point. Shooting, contest yes and so.

00:49:33
Speaker 3: Walk. Off yeah who booked the last?

00:49:36
Speaker 4: A Guesst?

00:49:36
Speaker 3: Michael jordan?

00:49:37
Speaker 4: Paul did it would be a good trivial pursuit question. Or something