Neotropical Oak Forests & Bush-Checking Becky

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<v Speaker 1>They will consider their failure as creators only as a
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<v Speaker 2>Hello everybody, and welcome to the crime pace. What Body
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't Podcast got back from Costa Rica two days ago
<v Speaker 2>from uh from doing the little Tour from hosting the tour.
<v Speaker 2>It's fun. It's like it's like a fucking it's like
<v Speaker 2>field expeditions mixed with in the field teaching and learning
<v Speaker 2>and then just seeing cool shit and uh, you know,
<v Speaker 2>a couple dildo jokes here and there, you know a
<v Speaker 2>little bit of turetts uh, you know that kind of thing.
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was great. It was everyone that came
<v Speaker 2>was was fucking wonderful. You know, there was everybody. They
<v Speaker 2>all walks of life. People showed up and then we
<v Speaker 2>just went. We were at high elevations the whole time,
<v Speaker 2>didn't go into the lowlands at all. We were basically
<v Speaker 2>above we were above nine thousand, We were above eighty
<v Speaker 2>five hundred feet for almost the entire trip. So high up,
<v Speaker 2>so high, high elevation cloud for us. And I loved it.
<v Speaker 2>I had a great time. Man. I was sad to
<v Speaker 2>see everybody go, you know, we had there were all
<v Speaker 2>different kinds of people, young people, old people. It was
<v Speaker 2>a it was a wonderful time. And we stayed at
<v Speaker 2>two different spots, but again all and it was oak
<v Speaker 2>forest and Paramo and those oak forests. Holy hell, it was.
<v Speaker 2>It was so it was so nice, you know, that's
<v Speaker 2>why you go out. You go out to those places
<v Speaker 2>to try and bottle that stuff up so you could
<v Speaker 2>take it back with you when you have to return
<v Speaker 2>to the real world. Like yesterday, I was sitting in
<v Speaker 2>the low income clinic trying to get tested for COVID
<v Speaker 2>and flu because I caught something on the way back.
<v Speaker 2>I had like a cough and just felt fucking out
<v Speaker 2>of it. Now you know, my internet diagnosis has I've
<v Speaker 2>arrived at coccidio mycoasis, which is a fungal infection of
<v Speaker 2>the lungs. My dog had it at one point, Louis
<v Speaker 2>had it. I had to get her prescription antifungals. I
<v Speaker 2>had a GP at the time who was on the
<v Speaker 2>level I had insurance back then, and I don't have insurance,
<v Speaker 2>so I go to these miserable clinics. It was horrible.
<v Speaker 2>It was a terrible experience, but a perfect welcome home
<v Speaker 2>to South Texas. You know, I was sitting in the
<v Speaker 2>clinic just realizing the futility of everything and how the
<v Speaker 2>broken American healthcare system, and also kind of kicking myself
<v Speaker 2>for not just going to the er and giving them
<v Speaker 2>a fake name, which is not only ethical but feels
<v Speaker 2>really good. To do. You know, it's it's like it's
<v Speaker 2>those little things you can do, you know, chalk up
<v Speaker 2>fifteen thousand dollars on a private hospitals, you know who's
<v Speaker 2>certainly run by sleeves, bags on their bill, and then
<v Speaker 2>you know, walk out with you know, it turns out
<v Speaker 2>you were just being you had psychosomatic issues, you're little
<v Speaker 2>paranoid whatever, you're a hypochondriact. But at least you got
<v Speaker 2>to ring out fifteen k worth of charges and you know,
<v Speaker 2>not incentivize a broken system, which is of course what
<v Speaker 2>we have in the United States for anybody who's not
<v Speaker 2>familiar how broken it is here anyway. But after the
<v Speaker 2>after we left, after the tour was done, we went
<v Speaker 2>to our fringe, Shankar's Reserve in uh which was a
<v Speaker 2>little bit east, like these oak and magnolia forests, and
<v Speaker 2>they were just I mean, it's fucking intoxicating. It's they
<v Speaker 2>were so I mean I left. There was a different
<v Speaker 2>species of oak and it was a little bit lower.
<v Speaker 2>It was like seventy two hundred feet here. And I left,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was in the Houston Airport eating some
<v Speaker 2>figurative shit on Sunday. The Houston Airport me have a
<v Speaker 2>special relationship. It's like it's given me a new version
<v Speaker 2>of hell to imagine, you know when I get there,
<v Speaker 2>Like there's all these different versions of hell. I've gone
<v Speaker 2>over this before. You think of what your own personal
<v Speaker 2>hell would be, and you have fun with it too.
<v Speaker 2>You know, what would be the shittiest, what would be
<v Speaker 2>one of the shittiest situations I could find myself? And
<v Speaker 2>like not just physically torturing, like you've got the hot
<v Speaker 2>poker in the ass and everything as well, but but
<v Speaker 2>spiritually and emotionally torturing too, you know, like just driving
<v Speaker 2>down an endless I thirty five quarter where everything is hideous,
<v Speaker 2>everyone is a money grubbing sleeves bag, everybody is a
<v Speaker 2>member of the death cult that's been fully indoctrinated into
<v Speaker 2>worshiping money and shining shiny things, zero substance, and it's
<v Speaker 2>just an endless for eternity, just an endless scenery of
<v Speaker 2>car dealerships and strip malls and billboards for personal injury attorneys.
<v Speaker 2>That's a version of hell. And then of course, like
<v Speaker 2>you gotta think music too, like the types of terrible
<v Speaker 2>music you'll be listening to. What would the soundtrack to
<v Speaker 2>this hell look like gets very excited, very creative. You
<v Speaker 2>can run wild, like, yeah, what would be the worst music?
<v Speaker 2>Like pop country? That song about the guy who you know,
<v Speaker 2>he says money can't buy you everything, but it can
<v Speaker 2>buy him a boat, you know, has a personality of
<v Speaker 2>a fart that takes jim selfies probably something like that.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I really go down a wormhole with this.
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, you know, when I'm in those places like
<v Speaker 2>the I thirty five Corridor or really any any major
<v Speaker 2>commercial and densely populated thoroughfare in the United States, that's
<v Speaker 2>when I need to pull out my bottle that contains
<v Speaker 2>memories from the oak force of the San Jose Province
<v Speaker 2>in the Talamanco range of Costa Rica. You know, I
<v Speaker 2>can think about Quirkus sapotafolia and Quirkus copayensis and Anthurium
<v Speaker 2>consonatum and the monsteras I saw growing epiphetically and these
<v Speaker 2>massive oaks with buttress trunks like buttress trunks, like hourglass
<v Speaker 2>shaped flanked trunks like a bald cypress, but they're they're
<v Speaker 2>oak trees. And you look one hundred and twenty feet
<v Speaker 2>up you can't even see the leaves barely, and you
<v Speaker 2>could tell they're eden, they're very they're very chewed on
<v Speaker 2>by caterpillars and all these surely what are all these
<v Speaker 2>other cool organisms? Because these oaks are so immensely important.
<v Speaker 2>And they were dropping acorns too, you know. I had
<v Speaker 2>half a mind to smuggle some acorns back in the
<v Speaker 2>old prison wallet, you know, but I didn't. You know,
<v Speaker 2>it's always it's always easy going through customs. It's always
<v Speaker 2>some nice I go through. I declare my specimens, you know,
<v Speaker 2>because the customs people are just working class schmucks too,
<v Speaker 2>you know, So I get on with them, and then
<v Speaker 2>they just inspect my you know, dried pressed plants. If
<v Speaker 2>I take some herbarium specimens, which I guess you're not
<v Speaker 2>supposed to do, but I only took a few, and
<v Speaker 2>they're going to an erbarium. You know, it's for science.
<v Speaker 2>So I just didn't do the proper permitting. Maybe we'll
<v Speaker 2>do that next time, and I would gladly collect for
<v Speaker 2>the Coasta Ricaarbarium. I need to hit the I need
<v Speaker 2>to hit the Coastal Ricarbarium next time I go, because
<v Speaker 2>that's really the only way you can figure out some
<v Speaker 2>with some of these plants. And there's so much diversity,
<v Speaker 2>it's fucking insane. It's mind thembing Eric Casey alone. Uh
<v Speaker 2>just wild Vaccinium constanguinium is on my hot list now,
<v Speaker 2>you know. It's the shrubs, the small trees growing at
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand feet elevation. Edible berries can also look like
<v Speaker 2>Vaccinium floor abundum. The differences in the key are minuscule.
<v Speaker 2>That's part of the reason I really don't fuck with
<v Speaker 2>keys in most cases. Let's see what they are. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>So this is from Flora manuel de plant as, the
<v Speaker 2>costa rica volumin sinko that catalidneas eccludes the ac to
<v Speaker 2>Gunner Racey. That's where Eric Casey is, between the seas
<v Speaker 2>and the g's Cavin dishy is. There's so many Cavin
<v Speaker 2>dishy is. How many times did I say woody ligno tuber,
<v Speaker 2>which is of course the storage mechanism that so many
<v Speaker 2>of these epiphytic members of the blueberry rely on for
<v Speaker 2>the dry season. You just you'll be you know, you'll
<v Speaker 2>just see this like giant, you know, football sized wooden
<v Speaker 2>knob just dangling thirty feet up from an oak tree.
<v Speaker 2>It's rooted into the moss and the thing and the
<v Speaker 2>bar it's rooted into the moss on the bark, and
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, I guess what the fuckay? Uh, They're everywhere.
<v Speaker 2>I saw one that looked like the Baltimore fatburg. It
<v Speaker 2>was growing on a camaro Staphlus arbutoides that was on
<v Speaker 2>we did. We went to Vulcan POAs No, No, it
<v Speaker 2>was Vulcan Erasu. It was Irazoo Volcano and there was
<v Speaker 2>the mass the most massive woody ligno tube where I've
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. It was like the size of like a
<v Speaker 2>baby carriage, just just fucking massive. And I believe it
<v Speaker 2>was Macleania, which is another genus of eric Casey. I
<v Speaker 2>gotta find I gotta find someone who studies these fucking things.
<v Speaker 2>The neotropical eric Casey are insane and they're something I
<v Speaker 2>first learned about and uh, just from seeing them in
<v Speaker 2>the cloud forest areas of the UC Berkeley Botanical Garden
<v Speaker 2>or the San Francisco Botanical Garden. Do you want to
<v Speaker 2>study cloud forest stuff or you're curious what it looks like,
<v Speaker 2>go to those places. I've I heard. San Francisco Botanical
<v Speaker 2>Garden got liquidated and they started doing the East coast
<v Speaker 2>botanic garden shit, you know where they plant like all
<v Speaker 2>the tasteless shit like the petunias, and you know the
<v Speaker 2>Hallmark Gardens. You know, instead of it being a museum
<v Speaker 2>for science, it's more of just like something for rich
<v Speaker 2>weddings and you know, genteels and shit to get there,
<v Speaker 2>their uh lily white photos taken in front of you know,
<v Speaker 2>that kind of lame shit. They fill it up with
<v Speaker 2>lame shit that looks like the Home Depot garden section.
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which Fort Worth Botanic Garden has Nandina domestica
<v Speaker 2>is a specimen plant. They're botanic garden. I couldn't believe it.
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they removed it. I don't know. I was there
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one. When the fuck was I there
<v Speaker 2>twenty ninth? I can't even remember when it was, maybe
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen. It was a long ass time ago. But
<v Speaker 2>they had they had invasive species planted as specimen plants.
<v Speaker 2>It was fucking brutal. Oh my god, I dream. I
<v Speaker 2>dream of stealing a riding lawnmower and just go into
<v Speaker 2>botanic gardens like that and just just making salad out
<v Speaker 2>of all this shit they got planted. These old lady
<v Speaker 2>rich old lady, excuse me, rich old genteel gardens that
<v Speaker 2>are just you know, they mimy. They echo everything from archaic,
<v Speaker 2>you know, aristocratic European nineteenth century bullshit. It's fucking oh
<v Speaker 2>oh oh, it's so terrible. I would that's another version
<v Speaker 2>of hell right there. I ared you know, that's what
<v Speaker 2>it is. I'm stuck in a garden like that. I
<v Speaker 2>get stuck in, locked in after hours night at the museum.
<v Speaker 2>Instead of night at the museum, it's night at the
<v Speaker 2>fucking East Coast Hallmark style botanic garden, and that, you know,
<v Speaker 2>all the shit comes alive, these horticultural atrocities. Nandina domestica.
<v Speaker 2>There's these little goblins sticking hot pokers in my ass
<v Speaker 2>and flagulating me with Nandina Domestica, beating me with the
<v Speaker 2>fucking Siberian elms and the boxwoods and the crape myrtles,
<v Speaker 2>and fuck you just made me think of something horrible.
<v Speaker 2>I blame you, the listener, Okay, anyway, let's get back
<v Speaker 2>to Eric Kogano kaelks oh, that's a lovely or let's
<v Speaker 2>get the vaccinium. Let's look at how how how useless
<v Speaker 2>the key is. I just looked at this so Vaccinium consanguineum,
<v Speaker 2>which is up in the paramo. It's a blueberry vaccinium,
<v Speaker 2>just like cranberry, same genus, and it grows to these
<v Speaker 2>fucking things and get upwards a twenty or thirty feet tall,
<v Speaker 2>but they can also be five feet tall. There's lots
<v Speaker 2>of plasticity, and you'll see that with camaro staphlus too,
<v Speaker 2>the arbutist relative. It looks like a madrone. Are beautiful
<v Speaker 2>fucking trees, so gorgeous and a lot of cool Michael
<v Speaker 2>Riisel mushrooms of course, under these things like like sign
<v Speaker 2>a Monte Cola, which I did a short video on.
<v Speaker 2>I mostly did shorts. I didn't do many long videos.
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't have it in me. I don't give
<v Speaker 2>a fuck. I got videos left from Ecuador and Chile
<v Speaker 2>to edit, and I'm just not there. I'm so burnt out, man,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm in the Houston Airport of the mind.
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting in a fucking what is it, some
<v Speaker 2>cafe for four hours, which is sitting still sucks too,
<v Speaker 2>but I was sick, so it was easier. I was
<v Speaker 2>sitting in a cafe and I got like a Portobello
<v Speaker 2>burger and just rotted there. I had a six hour
<v Speaker 2>layover on this Sunday and it was just, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it was an experience. It's weird. The Costa Rica airport
<v Speaker 2>is all Americans. It's fucking crazy, man. It's you feel
<v Speaker 2>like you're going to Gringo Landia. It's very you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how I feel about it. I'm glad
<v Speaker 2>that they're getting out. I'm glad the Americans are leaving
<v Speaker 2>their own country. But it's still it's doesn't It feels
<v Speaker 2>weird and everything's expensive as fuck. Costa Rica is expensive
<v Speaker 2>as fuck anyway. Okay, Vaccinium constanguinium, but it can look
<v Speaker 2>like vaccinium flora bundum. I mean they I'm sure I
<v Speaker 2>probably miss messed up the two identifications on. I don't
<v Speaker 2>really care, you know. All you gotta know is the
<v Speaker 2>big vaccinium is Vaccinium constanguinium flora bund Them supposedly tops
<v Speaker 2>out at a meter meter and a half. But let's
<v Speaker 2>let's look at the differences in the key. They're right
<v Speaker 2>next to each other in the key. Where the fuck
<v Speaker 2>did it go here? It is? Yeah, the vaccinium page
<v Speaker 2>two seventy nine at volume five A manual day plant
<v Speaker 2>that's day costa rica vallumen shinko the code and lay
<v Speaker 2>donais no donaas Donaus said, fucking you know, I missed
<v Speaker 2>up the My Spanish is sufficient, but I really fucked.
<v Speaker 2>They want okay uh vaccinium consanguinium. Plant that's henaald mente
<v Speaker 2>or bustos or or bullies, shrubs or trees, rakis dayla
<v Speaker 2>inflorescence one to four centimeters ped bedissilo's one to two millimeters.
<v Speaker 2>And then the difference is plant this henteral mente, herbo suffertessent,
<v Speaker 2>herbs or shrubs, rakis dayla inflorescence hasta okay one point
<v Speaker 2>five centimeters. Okay, So the difference is that the rakies,
<v Speaker 2>the the inflorescence rackis is on constantinium it's one of
<v Speaker 2>the four centimeters, and on flora abundant it's one point
<v Speaker 2>five centimeters. The fuck it? How helpful is that pedicels
<v Speaker 2>one to two millimeters on constanguinium, pedicels one point eight
<v Speaker 2>to five point five millimeters on flora abundant. So the pedicals,
<v Speaker 2>the stalks that hold the flowers are a little bit
<v Speaker 2>longer on on flora bundum. That's fucked. That doesn't help
<v Speaker 2>me at all. They're a little bit longer the pedicels
<v Speaker 2>and it's generally shrub. But again phenotypic plasticity if you
<v Speaker 2>hit you know, if you're looking at a consanguinium, a
<v Speaker 2>plant that can get a turn into a tall tree,
<v Speaker 2>but it happens to be growing dwarf because it's a
<v Speaker 2>new tree and poor boggy soil sphagnum soil and the parmo,
<v Speaker 2>then it can be misleading. I think the inflorescences are
<v Speaker 2>generally longer, much longer on Consanguinium, while the pedicels of
<v Speaker 2>the flowers are longer on the floora. But this is
<v Speaker 2>why it doesn't. You can't sum up a gestalt of
<v Speaker 2>a plant and a flora. Floras are helpful sometimes, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I don't it just and they're fun to have and read.
<v Speaker 2>This thing costs one hundred bucks by the way, too,
<v Speaker 2>there's that thing too, And it's not online because that
<v Speaker 2>would make too much sense if you put in PDF
<v Speaker 2>fourm put online that would be too easy. So you know,
<v Speaker 2>and then the asta ace section is fucking massive. It's
<v Speaker 2>another tome. This is like a fifteen pounds. There's a
<v Speaker 2>fifteen pound book ten pounds maybe I don't know, but anyway,
<v Speaker 2>but these these oak forests were just fucking incredible. H
<v Speaker 2>And then you're in the oak forest, and then of
<v Speaker 2>course above that you hit the parmo and there's still
<v Speaker 2>little bits of the tree line. There's still there's still
<v Speaker 2>trees around. There's Corcus coasta rickensis up there, just really
<v Speaker 2>cool kind of curve. You know, they look like ovate
<v Speaker 2>oak leaves, but the margins are revolute, so it looks
<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of a concave lens in the margins
<v Speaker 2>of the leaves kind of fold under a little bit
<v Speaker 2>and not fold under, but you know what I mean.
<v Speaker 2>They got they got a lip to them. And then
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was really curious too because chiscaa uh
<v Speaker 2>what was it? Subtessalata is the main it's a bamboo
<v Speaker 2>that just scays. If you didn't listen to the Chisca
<v Speaker 2>interview with doctor LYNK. Clark, you should because they're fucking awesome.
<v Speaker 2>The the neotropical bamboos are incredible. You know, they're not
<v Speaker 2>hollow like the Asian bamboos, which makes much better for caning.
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you ever need should you ever need
<v Speaker 2>the cane someone or if you're into being caned whatever,
<v Speaker 2>I'm not kink shaming here, but Ciskea subtests a lot
<v Speaker 2>is everywhere and it dominates in these open areas. It's
<v Speaker 2>a bamboo, but it only it tops out of like
<v Speaker 2>six feet tall, and it forms these little colonies. But
<v Speaker 2>then you know, and then you've got all this other
<v Speaker 2>interesting shit growing around it. Pullyadessa larioides. You got these
<v Speaker 2>like these little ponds that fill up that are maybe
<v Speaker 2>only a foot and a half deep, and they've got
<v Speaker 2>this sedge growing in them Heliocarius acicularis. It looks like
<v Speaker 2>an isoheedes almost it looks like like an upside down
<v Speaker 2>octopus if the tentacles were just straight and kind of spiny,
<v Speaker 2>and it can be fully submerged or sticking out of
<v Speaker 2>these ponds. And the ponds they're only yeah, again like
<v Speaker 2>a foot deep maybe if that you know, they were
<v Speaker 2>dry when I was there in April. But but it's
<v Speaker 2>just the most bizarre landscape. And I say, cloud forests
<v Speaker 2>and parma are probably some of my favorite plant habitat
<v Speaker 2>after deserts. They're just incredible, more than thorn scrub I
<v Speaker 2>love these places because it's pleasant to be there. You
<v Speaker 2>don't feel like you're gonna keel over from heat exhaustion
<v Speaker 2>and the parmo. But the diversity is just it's mind blowing. Man.
<v Speaker 2>And so the chiskea, this bamboo is everywhere, and you
<v Speaker 2>look at it and you kind of try to you're
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what keeps the trees from encroaching.
<v Speaker 2>We're up here at ten thou five hundred feet thirty
<v Speaker 2>three hundred meters and the trees. I mean, it's not
<v Speaker 2>altitude or excuse me, elevation alone that is keeping the
<v Speaker 2>trees away, because the trees can clearly grow. You could
<v Speaker 2>see them off one hundred yards to the distance, same
<v Speaker 2>elevation growing. There's a forest there, it's you know, got
<v Speaker 2>a fifty foot tall canopy. But here in this open area,
<v Speaker 2>the chiskeaya is dominant, and it's this acidic soil. I
<v Speaker 2>looked at one of the rocks. It felt kind of
<v Speaker 2>like gabbro, like an intrusive the intrusive igneous version of basalt,
<v Speaker 2>which is extrusive igneous, so iron rich black. That gabbro
<v Speaker 2>is a mafic rock, so it's got high iron content
<v Speaker 2>in it, so in high rainfall it probably weathers to
<v Speaker 2>red very iron rich, leeched nutrient poor rock. Maybe it
<v Speaker 2>had said, I assume it's something to do with geology.
<v Speaker 2>But you'll see these vast expanses of Chiskea punctuated by
<v Speaker 2>esclonium or tillioides, another tree or Hesperomilees obtusifolia, which is
<v Speaker 2>generally a much smaller tree, but only a few poking
<v Speaker 2>up out of the chiskeya. You know, Oreopanax or a
<v Speaker 2>chef fleira. I don't know the differences between the two
<v Speaker 2>because it's a real clusterfuck. You know, they rarely ac
<v Speaker 2>ginseng family is another thing. It's hard to find inform.
<v Speaker 2>The differences between these genera are not They're very subtle.
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to figure out. They're inflorescence differences in inflorescence architecture.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's a fucking nightmare, and especially when
<v Speaker 2>the thing is like, you know this Oreopanicx can get again.
<v Speaker 2>On these dwarf soils, it could be eight to ten
<v Speaker 2>feet tall in the forest down below. On a richer
<v Speaker 2>soil it can be forty feet tall or oreo panics
<v Speaker 2>I guess, but they all got glabrous leaves, you know,
<v Speaker 2>And I guess they produce a berry. But but I
<v Speaker 2>assume it's geology that keeps the paramo the paramo. But
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, it's this very low growing plant community
<v Speaker 2>filled with interesting shit, probably very acidic soil. The puya
<v Speaker 2>is probably one of the coolest things, you know, a
<v Speaker 2>pineapple relative. Oh, they were flowering two They had little
<v Speaker 2>blue tube flowers and the hummingbirds were hitting them just
<v Speaker 2>you know, these large green hummingbirds hitting these things large
<v Speaker 2>for a hummingbird, just fucking just incredible. Man. I didn't
<v Speaker 2>expect them to be blooming. And then there's Phagnum magillanicum,
<v Speaker 2>you know here and there bright red Sphagnum moss very
<v Speaker 2>wet too, like the soils, very wet. And we were
<v Speaker 2>there for the mushrooms mostly. And yeah, we saw like signum.
<v Speaker 2>We saw a lot of micael rhizel stuff with the
<v Speaker 2>kamaro Staphilus and the vaccinium and the corcus. The oaks
<v Speaker 2>were fucking wild down at lower elevations. A few days
<v Speaker 2>after the tour ended, we saw Amanita coast three keensis cool.
<v Speaker 2>Amanita looks like it's got all this, uh looks like
<v Speaker 2>it's got lint hanging off the margin, like the way
<v Speaker 2>that the the I guess it's the veil. Allen will
<v Speaker 2>probably correct me if I fucked this up. But the
<v Speaker 2>way that the veil, the remnant veil hangs off the
<v Speaker 2>cap the margin of the cap is just incredible. Makes
<v Speaker 2>it look like lint. You know, it is a micro
<v Speaker 2>hizl mushrooms. So these are all you know, fung guy
<v Speaker 2>that are symbiotic with these oaks. And there was a
<v Speaker 2>book that I actually ended up downloading called what was
<v Speaker 2>it called? It was by uh who is it? By
<v Speaker 2>Martin kappel Ka P. P. E. L. L. E. Called
<v Speaker 2>the Kalga and Conservation of Neotropical Montane Oak for us
<v Speaker 2>with a photograph of some of the habitat that we
<v Speaker 2>were in. But you know, these these there's so much
<v Speaker 2>it's such a mystery to me. Still. The cool thing
<v Speaker 2>was the Chiskeaia. You know, this is a boggy area
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of peat. You can feel it's like
<v Speaker 2>a squishy soil up in the parmo and the peat
<v Speaker 2>is created by the dead roots of the Chiskeaa. Of
<v Speaker 2>these massive colonies of Chiscaia. When they die, the roots
<v Speaker 2>turn into this peat and they don't really decompose, and
<v Speaker 2>that gets this spongy thing that you're walking on. There
<v Speaker 2>was erringium humanly up there too, a relative of rattlesnake
<v Speaker 2>master and carrots. The plant known in the Midwest colloquially
<v Speaker 2>is rattlesnake master. It was a small herb. It only
<v Speaker 2>got about six to eight inches tall, but there was
<v Speaker 2>there was so much, so much good stuff there. And
<v Speaker 2>then of course there's these salamanders I guess that have
<v Speaker 2>some sort of relationship with the puya. There was a
<v Speaker 2>paper done on them, and one of the places we
<v Speaker 2>were staying, the guy told us that the researchers had
<v Speaker 2>actually accessed the Parmo through their land and the Parmo
<v Speaker 2>habitat that we were visiting. I mean, the Parmo is
<v Speaker 2>in some cases right off the highway, you still have
<v Speaker 2>to hike to it. But this Parmo was, you know,
<v Speaker 2>it was it was like a two or three mile
<v Speaker 2>hike in, and it was pretty pristine because of it.
<v Speaker 2>And there were just these massive PuYas everywhere, looking like sodalls,
<v Speaker 2>looking like dasilerian ah. And the whole you know, everything's
<v Speaker 2>got fuzz on it because of the intense uv and
<v Speaker 2>the frost, and it was it was really really pretty remarkable.
<v Speaker 2>So we were in the Parmo for a day or two,
<v Speaker 2>maybe a day and a half, and then we were
<v Speaker 2>based that We stayed at like two or three two
<v Speaker 2>different spots on this tour. One the last one, the
<v Speaker 2>last one we stayed at, you know, it was a
<v Speaker 2>it was I think it was at like ninety three
<v Speaker 2>hundred feet. It's fucking chilly, but you could see the
<v Speaker 2>whole Milky Way at night, and then there were are
<v Speaker 2>enough trails there to just go fuck around here, go wherever.
<v Speaker 2>There was so much to see on this this property
<v Speaker 2>that these people owned, and it was cool. The people
<v Speaker 2>that ran this spot were basically from the US, but
<v Speaker 2>they dipped out in the sixties because it's you know,
<v Speaker 2>to avoid the draft, because they knew that the country
<v Speaker 2>was going to ship and that Vietnam was bogus, so
<v Speaker 2>they dropped. They they moved down to Costa Rica and
<v Speaker 2>just basically started a homesteadying and set up and then
<v Speaker 2>now that's just where they live and they have a
<v Speaker 2>They got some nice dicks. It's nice. They built their
<v Speaker 2>They built their own house out of local lumber. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it was cool, but you know, the plant communities there
<v Speaker 2>were just wild. So you get oak forest, this high
<v Speaker 2>elevation montane oak forest where you'll see orchids. And we
<v Speaker 2>saw Telepogon coast three councas, which is a really peculiar
<v Speaker 2>little orchid that mimics uh female. The flowers mimic female
<v Speaker 2>attacking it flies and you could see it when you
<v Speaker 2>look at them, like the center of the flowers, like
<v Speaker 2>this black fuzzy thing mimics female attack and it flies
<v Speaker 2>to get the male fliers to try and hump it,
<v Speaker 2>thus pollinating it, and it seems to work pretty well.
<v Speaker 2>So sexual deception and orchids. How many instances of this
<v Speaker 2>are there? It's so common, it's great. There's gonna be
<v Speaker 2>thousands of cases of thousands of different species that use
<v Speaker 2>sexual deception and insects for their pollination. Then there was
<v Speaker 2>Anthorium's growing there too, and it was this forest was
<v Speaker 2>interesting because it was mostly dominated by oaks. There was
<v Speaker 2>Escalonium martilioides, which I mentioned before can also turn into
<v Speaker 2>a big as tree, but you know in the paramode
<v Speaker 2>only tops out at ten or twenty feet, which is
<v Speaker 2>really peculiar to me. The tree cover here. It's so variable.
<v Speaker 2>The same species can have such it can grow so differently.
<v Speaker 2>Saw Nasa speciosa, which is in the velkra Le family.
<v Speaker 2>Lois Sace it's his stinga. It's things you big orange
<v Speaker 2>flowers and it's things like hell. And most of the
<v Speaker 2>stinging members of that family are from South America. You
<v Speaker 2>get Menzelia and unite in North America, the rock net
<v Speaker 2>and blazing star whatever the common name is from Menzilia.
<v Speaker 2>I used to see them all, the Menzilia what is
<v Speaker 2>it leptocullis, the big one in California is a showy
<v Speaker 2>best You to see that around the Mount Shasta area,
<v Speaker 2>like right off the highway, right off five five. But
<v Speaker 2>and then there was a Budlaya but leya scutchy eye,
<v Speaker 2>which is like an eighty foot tall bod lay You know.
<v Speaker 2>Bud Laya the genus of quote butterfly bush horticultural atrocity,
<v Speaker 2>bad invasive out east in the East United States. It's
<v Speaker 2>from Asia. But uh, you know, here's a here's a
<v Speaker 2>species that's native to Central American cloud forest and can
<v Speaker 2>get eighty to ninety feet tall, massive trees. And I
<v Speaker 2>finally got to see Cilandra bracket calyx, which is a
<v Speaker 2>night shade leana. It's not really vine leana. Leannas are
<v Speaker 2>like leannas are a whole different habit than vine. They're
<v Speaker 2>much generally much bigger. They grow in tropical areas. They
<v Speaker 2>you know, the nodes tend to be further apart, because
<v Speaker 2>these things go eighty feet up a tree to reach
<v Speaker 2>for light, and so so Landro bracket kalyks I had
<v Speaker 2>because I'd gotten seed from Martin Grantham who had one
<v Speaker 2>at his house in Emoryville, and I had planted it
<v Speaker 2>at my house in the ground and it ended up
<v Speaker 2>almost wrapping around the entire house. And to get these
<v Speaker 2>giant yellow flowers on it. You know, it looked like
<v Speaker 2>night shade flowers probably ten inches long and six inches across,
<v Speaker 2>pollinated by bats. And then when they're pollinated they produce
<v Speaker 2>an edible fruit. That is, the flowers are supposed to psychoactive.
<v Speaker 2>Who the fuck knows, I don't know if that's if
<v Speaker 2>that's true or not. But the fruit looks like a
<v Speaker 2>giant yellow tomato, but it tastes sweet and it's guy.
<v Speaker 2>I don't have, however, many seeds inside, and those you know,
<v Speaker 2>those are really easy to germinate and one plant is
<v Speaker 2>all you need. They're self fertile. So I would grow
<v Speaker 2>the shit out of that and I'd give it to people,
<v Speaker 2>and it did great in the Bay Area climate. It
<v Speaker 2>just needed summer water because it's not from a Mediterranean
<v Speaker 2>climate like California's from the cloud forest. There is so
<v Speaker 2>much parallel in climate, at least in temperatures, between the
<v Speaker 2>Bay Area of California and the cloud forests of any
<v Speaker 2>cloud forest is Central America, whether it's Mexico or or
<v Speaker 2>some of the South American cloud forests. I mean sometimes,
<v Speaker 2>like when we were in the Parma it reminded me
<v Speaker 2>of living in the Sunset District. I didn't live there.
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was staying on someone's couch, but I was,
<v Speaker 2>you know, for a while I lived there. I just
<v Speaker 2>wasn't paid rent on the Sunset District of San Francisco,
<v Speaker 2>like foggy on the foggiest, chilliest summer day. Right where
<v Speaker 2>was that quote? Mark Twain said, the coldest winter I
<v Speaker 2>ever spent was a summer in San Francisco. That's what
<v Speaker 2>it's like. Four pm it's foggy as hell. Everything's gray,
<v Speaker 2>it's windy, it's cold, it's damp and wet. It felt
<v Speaker 2>so much like that, And then it made sense to me,
<v Speaker 2>why you know so much of the cloud forest stuff
<v Speaker 2>is planted at San Francisco Botanic Garden, or you see Berkeley.
<v Speaker 2>You see Berkeley's a little further inland. They you know,
<v Speaker 2>they it's they're still marginal there, but you could still
<v Speaker 2>get a decent amount of fog. And it was I was.
<v Speaker 2>I felt lucky to learn botany in those areas too,
<v Speaker 2>because these are such unique habitats. These are these are
<v Speaker 2>plant communities and habitats that few people in temperate latitudes
<v Speaker 2>even though exist. I mean, where you can see oaks
<v Speaker 2>growing with you know, orchids and aeroids and all these epiphytes,
<v Speaker 2>and just it boggles the mind. It blows, it blows
<v Speaker 2>out of the water any conceptions you have about what
<v Speaker 2>plants quote should be. It's so fucking cool. And again,
<v Speaker 2>the selection pressures that are being operated on, that are
<v Speaker 2>being worked with in these these communities are cold and wet,
<v Speaker 2>like an increased UV. You're so high up that there's
<v Speaker 2>the ultraviolet radiation is more intense and so these you know,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of plants are hairy at is protection against
<v Speaker 2>cold acting you know, Harry is acting like a frost cloth,
<v Speaker 2>and protection against ultraviolet light. So yeah, it was you know,
<v Speaker 2>every time I go to the fucking Parma, we're going,
<v Speaker 2>I guess we're doing an Ecuador thing in November, a
<v Speaker 2>post details as I learned them, Mandy plants, all this stuff.
<v Speaker 2>But uh, but yeah, it'll be fucking great. And it's
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's Alan handles, the mushroom stuff. I had
<v Speaker 2>all the plant stuff and it we're given presentations and
<v Speaker 2>just talking. We're like, you know, just showing like projector
<v Speaker 2>projector presentations at night and just shooting the ship. But
<v Speaker 2>open questions, you know, not like grueling and boring. You
<v Speaker 2>don't have to stay if you don't want to. Uh.
<v Speaker 2>But just what's important to me is that people learn
<v Speaker 2>stuff and get a greater concept of the of the
<v Speaker 2>world around them. And these really unique plant communities that
<v Speaker 2>exist where you have a mixture of Southern Hemisphere stuff
<v Speaker 2>and Northern Hemisphere stuff from the temperate latitudes growing at
<v Speaker 2>a tropical latitude, and it can do so because it's
<v Speaker 2>so fucking high up It's just incredible, man. There's so
<v Speaker 2>much diversity. Much less diversity than a low and tropical forest,
<v Speaker 2>but still a lot of fucking diversity, especially if you're
<v Speaker 2>used to, you know, the diversity that you might get
<v Speaker 2>in you know, the United States or another temperate latitude, Europe. Whatever. Anyway,
<v Speaker 2>another nice plant that I seen down there, and this
<v Speaker 2>was a pioneer species because it was on my friend
<v Speaker 2>Sean's land. His grandpa Zona had spot for fifty years.
<v Speaker 2>He's owed this fucking spot seventy five hundred feet up
<v Speaker 2>in a mountains with that, that's where I saw the
<v Speaker 2>oaks with the buttress trunks Quircus suppotafolia. An incredible forest.
<v Speaker 2>There were these glass winged butterflies flying around everywhere. Looked
<v Speaker 2>it look jibby deed. But on a way up there
<v Speaker 2>was fucking viburnum. There was a viburnum, a pioneer species, Viburnum.
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, what was it? S the Lato tomantosum I
<v Speaker 2>think was the species. And then there was what I
<v Speaker 2>thought was a hackberry. It looks just like a hackberry,
<v Speaker 2>but it's in a different genus, and it's in a genus. Hackberries,
<v Speaker 2>of course are related to cannabis. They're in the cannabase.
<v Speaker 2>They related the pact and they got similar they got
<v Speaker 2>similar chemistry due today fact. But they're not producing DHC,
<v Speaker 2>but I guess they produce CBD, which is sold in
<v Speaker 2>every fucking sold in all these like they sell kombucha
<v Speaker 2>CBD in Coasteca. It's crazy. You go to like I
<v Speaker 2>went to like what was the equivalent of an oxo,
<v Speaker 2>And I go inside the market and there's like healthy
<v Speaker 2>shit there, like healthy shit to eat. Like they've got
<v Speaker 2>all the poison and garbage and sugary shit too, all
<v Speaker 2>the stuff you can get in Mexico. In Mexico it's
<v Speaker 2>really bad, all the oxos, so fucking poison, And of
<v Speaker 2>course it's bad in the United States. You know, we
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of fatties here, you know, people who
<v Speaker 2>get poisoned. Then we got the driving culture too, at
<v Speaker 2>least in Mexico. You know, you gotta walk a lot
<v Speaker 2>of places. Still cars aren't as normalized as is here,
<v Speaker 2>at least the driving slum, you know, the the I
<v Speaker 2>thirty five corridor equivalent. There's nothing that hideous in Mexico.
<v Speaker 2>Go they like to burn their garbage, though I could
<v Speaker 2>smell it. I'm so close to the border. I could
<v Speaker 2>smell the burning plastic every night. It's a long infection.
<v Speaker 2>It's cock city on my coass. But anyway, but I
<v Speaker 2>went in. They sell CBD in like CBD kombucha, all
<v Speaker 2>these CBD drinks and anyway, it's but there's healthy food
<v Speaker 2>in all the corner stores. You can go in there
<v Speaker 2>and like you can get green tea. It's fucking It's
<v Speaker 2>always blows my mind how fucked we are in the US.
<v Speaker 2>The lack of healthcare, and then of course the poisonous,
<v Speaker 2>the garbage food. Like I remember going into Brazil seeing
<v Speaker 2>truck stops right they had buffets full of salad, greens
<v Speaker 2>and like good shit shit that tasted good, you know,
<v Speaker 2>like cooked spinach, seasoned and shit tastes fucking delicious, you know,
<v Speaker 2>Like I couldn't believe I was in a truck stop
<v Speaker 2>that was in Minas your eyes, Brazil. But I mean,
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, the US is just so fucking you know,
<v Speaker 2>peop people don't realize how much they're getting fucked. It's amazing.
<v Speaker 2>Ugliest landscape in the first world, billboards, shopping slums. Anyway,
<v Speaker 2>you've heard this before. I won't go off on us again.
<v Speaker 2>You know, you like some people like the rants other
<v Speaker 2>but they get a little excessive sometimes. But Trima Micrantham
<v Speaker 2>looks like a Celtic. It looks like a hackberry. It's
<v Speaker 2>got the alternating leaves that are almost so close to
<v Speaker 2>look opposite. They got that scabbard texture. Axillary berries berry
<v Speaker 2>fruits like down here, and the berries turn orange, just
<v Speaker 2>like Celtic pallada, which is a desert hackberry. We also
<v Speaker 2>get Celtic slave agata in South Texas. What's the Celtic
<v Speaker 2>that you get up in Illinois? I know there's a
<v Speaker 2>hackberry in Illinois that pops up along the railroad tracks.
<v Speaker 2>One of the few natives. But these, of course hackberries
<v Speaker 2>are ruterl plants, so they're pioneer species. But being ruteral
<v Speaker 2>means they grow in areas of human disturbance. And that's
<v Speaker 2>what was growing here. This is a beautiful hackberry. And
<v Speaker 2>it was all covered in ousnia and you could see
<v Speaker 2>the fog coming up through the canyon, all this water
<v Speaker 2>vapor channeling up through the canyon, and shit fuck it
<v Speaker 2>was arethrena po piggy I po pig who was pope?
<v Speaker 2>He was some German guy. They named the cactus after
<v Speaker 2>this fucking prick too. Maybe he was nice, maybe he
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a prick. I don't know. Oh, let's just assume
<v Speaker 2>he was a prick. You never know everyone's an asshole.
<v Speaker 2>They'll proven otherwise. That's the way I work, right, I'll
<v Speaker 2>be nice to everybody, but I'm gonna assume they're a prick,
<v Speaker 2>and then you gotta work up. You know, if if
<v Speaker 2>you meet someone and they are warm and kind or
<v Speaker 2>just defensive, you know a little bit. I give people
<v Speaker 2>a better of the people. It's it's people are normal.
<v Speaker 2>It's that's this human nature to be an asshole. I think,
<v Speaker 2>at least around until you get to know someone better. So, uh,
<v Speaker 2>maybe Popig was an asshole. I don't know. You gotta
<v Speaker 2>loosen everybody up, you gotta warm them up. You know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm an asshole. I got spines, but and I'm soft
<v Speaker 2>on the inside. I get a soft center. I'm a soft,
<v Speaker 2>squishy guy on the inside. Once you get the spinzo
<v Speaker 2>out of the fucking way. I had to fucked up
<v Speaker 2>childhood anyway. Uh. Trima Micranthum, I guess it's a source
<v Speaker 2>of CBDA. Trima Micrantham. There's an ecotype that grows in Florida.
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, it's got these uh these axillary fruits.
<v Speaker 2>They come out right where the petiole of the leaf
<v Speaker 2>meets the stem, the branch, whatever, and then they they're
<v Speaker 2>green and they turn orange when they're ready. But that
<v Speaker 2>was fucking great to see. I almost forgot that genus existed.
<v Speaker 2>And this thing was massive. The whole thing's pubescent. The
<v Speaker 2>stems got little fuzz on them, covered in oosneach in
<v Speaker 2>growing right with Clybatium, which is another which almost looked
<v Speaker 2>like the viburnum and had opposite leaves. But Clybatium is
<v Speaker 2>a species in the sunflower family and astraci. It produces berries.
<v Speaker 2>It produces blue berry like blue edible. They're squishy. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they're I didn't taste one. I should
<v Speaker 2>have put one in my mouth. I put one my ass.
<v Speaker 2>But I've evidently they've you know, Clybatium has evolved. That
<v Speaker 2>is a method of bird disporslain. It works for it.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know there were any astoracious things anything in
<v Speaker 2>the sunflower family that produced berries. That was wild. It
<v Speaker 2>was cool to see. If you know, there's another plant
<v Speaker 2>in the sunflower family to produces fucking berries. Let me know,
<v Speaker 2>because it's weird that you take that. You take in
<v Speaker 2>a keene or a sipsla, a single seeded fruit, and
<v Speaker 2>it it evolves the morphology. Some part of that single
<v Speaker 2>seeded fruit, maybe the para carp or something gets fleshy
<v Speaker 2>and U it's wild. I didn't know that could happen.
<v Speaker 2>Just like there's conifers that produce berries, the potocarps in
<v Speaker 2>that case, what is an epimadium. It's like a swollen,
<v Speaker 2>juicy scale that that's brightly colored. And and then the
<v Speaker 2>the and is at the base of the seed. So
<v Speaker 2>you know, the seed is the outermost part, at least
<v Speaker 2>in the POTOCARPEESI the old the ancient conifer lineage, the
<v Speaker 2>seed is the most the outermost part. You know, potocarps,
<v Speaker 2>you've probably seen them in a horticultural atrocity garden before.
<v Speaker 2>They're common in the lower latitude US. I know Chicago
<v Speaker 2>Botanic Garden had some in their glasshouses. But that was
<v Speaker 2>cool to see because you know, you can't really they're
<v Speaker 2>not cold tolerance. You can't see them in Chicago. Otherwise
<v Speaker 2>you got to go to the Glasshouse. I used to
<v Speaker 2>love that Glasshouse in Chicago Botanic Garden and the Reagan Stein,
<v Speaker 2>the Reagan Stein Library. If you're out there in Chicago
<v Speaker 2>Botanic gar go hit up that library. They got a
<v Speaker 2>lot of cool books in there, and they'll let you
<v Speaker 2>hang out in there even if you're a bum but u.
<v Speaker 2>But it's it's weird. Yeah, So poto carps do that.
<v Speaker 2>And then it's another thing you wouldn't expect. It's technically
<v Speaker 2>a cone, it's a naked seed, but it's it's got
<v Speaker 2>this bait berry potocarpees So like Pectinopotis stanley i, which
<v Speaker 2>is also in Costa Rica, and and there was no
<v Speaker 2>Pectanopotus in these forests though where I saw that viburnum
<v Speaker 2>on Shan's Land, where his grandpa has been there fifty years,
<v Speaker 2>there was no Potocarpus or Pectanopotus. They're much higher up.
<v Speaker 2>They're like just below the paramo. They like it a
<v Speaker 2>lot colder and wetter. Mandy found a Grifola frontosa my taki.
<v Speaker 2>She found my taki growing on Pectanopotus stanley eye formerly
<v Speaker 2>Promnopotis Stanley one of these ancient potocarps I've been running
<v Speaker 2>my mouth about which was wild. These things get fucking massive.
<v Speaker 2>To some of these trees, they're absolutely massive, like eight
<v Speaker 2>feet diameter breast height. They can probably some of these
<v Speaker 2>trees are probably fifteen hundred or two thousand years old.
<v Speaker 2>And again I had no idea that they existed till
<v Speaker 2>I was in the high forest up there, and it's weird.
<v Speaker 2>On one side of this ridge, you've got you know,
<v Speaker 2>the Pectanopotus Stanley eye, you got the fucking Potocarpus coast
<v Speaker 2>three these old conifers. And then on the other side
<v Speaker 2>of the ridge, same elevation, it's completely different forced composition.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's more of the oak dominated Esclonium murtalloides dominated.
<v Speaker 2>And I finally got to see uh uh Solandra bracket klyx,
<v Speaker 2>which is a climbing leana. Aleana's like a more robust vine.
<v Speaker 2>You live in the timber latitudes, you think of a
<v Speaker 2>vine as being something that climbs up a chain link fence.
<v Speaker 2>You get some invasive morning glories and shit like this. No,
<v Speaker 2>Aliana is a massive fucking you know, in the tropics especially,
<v Speaker 2>they're common because the canopy is so fucking high up there.
<v Speaker 2>And everything's wet, and there's so much competition. There's epiphytes
<v Speaker 2>on everything. There's moss orchids, ferns growing on everything, on
<v Speaker 2>the barks of trees, aeroids growing up everything. Even though
<v Speaker 2>it's nine thousand feet and it's got the climate of
<v Speaker 2>coastal San Francisco, you know that you still got it.
<v Speaker 2>You got to get tall. So the leanas are like
<v Speaker 2>they're more robust, taller growing vines that can get really thick.
<v Speaker 2>And that's what soilander is. The nodes are a foot
<v Speaker 2>or two apart, so it's got like kind of like
<v Speaker 2>a it's not it's a sparse arrangement of the leaves.
<v Speaker 2>It's not super dense. You know. Like this is a
<v Speaker 2>leana that gets ninety feet up an oak tree, these
<v Speaker 2>tropical oak trees, and then puts out this yellow flower
<v Speaker 2>the size of a football that's pollinated by bats and
<v Speaker 2>then produces fruit that's edible. It's like a tomato. It's
<v Speaker 2>like a sweet tomato. It's like a sweet, mildly sweet,
<v Speaker 2>fleshy tomato, which I didn't know was edible until I
<v Speaker 2>was taking the seeds off of my friend Martin Grantham's
<v Speaker 2>taking them out of a piece of fruit I play
<v Speaker 2>plucked off the vine that he had at his house
<v Speaker 2>in Emeryville, California, which is a similar climate he grew.
<v Speaker 2>You know, a bunch of botanists in the Bay Area,
<v Speaker 2>California would grow cloud forest stuff. Some of the best
<v Speaker 2>research you know done by like breed Love, et cetera,
<v Speaker 2>was done out of California Academy of Sciences, striving ourbornum
<v Speaker 2>whatever about cloud forest plants. You know, Breedlove is the
<v Speaker 2>guy that discovered Deppy's Splendi INDs that member of the
<v Speaker 2>coffee family that's fucking extinct and habitat now. My friend
<v Speaker 2>Don told me about going back down to Chiapas to
<v Speaker 2>find it with them, and they went to the forest
<v Speaker 2>where it was and it was it was all cleared,
<v Speaker 2>it was gone. They fucking torched it and then they
<v Speaker 2>put up cornfields. Brutal. It's like destroying It's like destroying
<v Speaker 2>a museum of masterpieces to put up a dollar general.
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, and Deppies splend ins, but it's still in cultivation.
<v Speaker 2>It's like a common plant, and cultivation in the Bay
<v Speaker 2>probably an up and Humboldt County. Humboldt County's got a
<v Speaker 2>very pleasant climate for for cloud forest stuff. If you
<v Speaker 2>live out there, you got to go check out the
<v Speaker 2>cloud forest, the cloud forest areas of the Arboretum of
<v Speaker 2>UC Berkeley, of SF Botanic Garden, whatever, because fuck man,
<v Speaker 2>it's there's so much amazing stuff there. Martin, my friend Martin,
<v Speaker 2>he moved to he moved to Eureka. Now he bought
<v Speaker 2>a house some guy killed himself in so it was
<v Speaker 2>cheap on the market, you know. I remember I was
<v Speaker 2>in his house when he told me that, and they
<v Speaker 2>were were laughing about it. No offense, not at the
<v Speaker 2>guy's expense. It's terrible this guy killed himself. But that's
<v Speaker 2>how you get a cheap house in California these days.
<v Speaker 2>There has to have been some sort of murder, double homicide,
<v Speaker 2>a grizzly suicide, something, and that's how you get the
<v Speaker 2>price the price drop. You know, you know, bad things happen,
<v Speaker 2>but the fucking real estate market is still what it is.
<v Speaker 2>Am I wrong? Huh? You know these pig investors that
<v Speaker 2>have driven rent prices up. Okay, anyway, but I got
<v Speaker 2>to see Solandra Bracket Klyx a night shade, and I
<v Speaker 2>love this thing. I grew it. I grew tons of them.
<v Speaker 2>I gave them to people. I fucking had one in
<v Speaker 2>front of my house in Oakland. The pag investors that
<v Speaker 2>bought that I was probably ripped everything out. Hopefully the
<v Speaker 2>madrone is still back there, but the the soilandra was.
<v Speaker 2>It was such a fucking cool plant. And it's you know,
<v Speaker 2>where roots into the ground. It can be ten inches across,
<v Speaker 2>it can get it turns into a thick, almost treelike.
<v Speaker 2>It's like a cross between a tree and a vine.
<v Speaker 2>But in this oak it was going ninety feet up
<v Speaker 2>and then it just you could see fruits way up
<v Speaker 2>at the top. And I knew it was there because
<v Speaker 2>friends of mine that we were on this trail walking
<v Speaker 2>through the cloud forest would find the you know, the
<v Speaker 2>flowers after they get pollinated, the ovary and the style
<v Speaker 2>stay on the what was the flower, but the corolla
<v Speaker 2>and the stamens fall off. And so they were finding
<v Speaker 2>these giant yellow flowers all over the ground and couldn't
<v Speaker 2>see where they were because the canopy so high up.
<v Speaker 2>And one of them showed it to me and I said, oh,
<v Speaker 2>this is fucking Silandro. Holy shit, I gotta find this thing.
<v Speaker 2>So right where the trail ended. There was an old
<v Speaker 2>oak tree right next to a dogwood too. There's a
<v Speaker 2>dogwood species there. What was the dogwood species, Cornice disiflora.
<v Speaker 2>I was using a checklist, which was super helpful, a
<v Speaker 2>checklist for that mountain range, because I would tell I
<v Speaker 2>could tell something was in a family or a genus especially,
<v Speaker 2>and then just go look up on the checklist and
<v Speaker 2>see what grows there. And the checklist was annotated too,
<v Speaker 2>so it had everything by elevation, you know, And so
<v Speaker 2>I would look, you know, if there were multiple species
<v Speaker 2>in a genus, and I knew I was looking at
<v Speaker 2>something in a certain genus, I would go to whatever
<v Speaker 2>elevation I was at, which in this case was you know,
<v Speaker 2>nine thousand feet the twenty twenty seven hundred meters whatever.
<v Speaker 2>That is super helpful. It was like the checklist of
<v Speaker 2>plants of amistide. You got to look it up in Spanish,
<v Speaker 2>but u but yeah, there was a fucking dogwood there,
<v Speaker 2>like massive dogwood. Crazy. And so anyway, the trail ended
<v Speaker 2>and now and then it opened up on these hills
<v Speaker 2>that have been cleared for pasture. But you could see
<v Speaker 2>over the whole valley and there was just all that
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's again, it's a cloud forest for a reason.
<v Speaker 2>There's all this water vapor moving through the sunset was
<v Speaker 2>going down. It was fucking beautiful. And I looked up
<v Speaker 2>the ninety feet this tree and I saw, I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I knew the leaves of this thing because I grew
<v Speaker 2>it for you know, eight years. Martin Grantham got me.
<v Speaker 2>Martin Grantham had all the coolest shit in his yard,
<v Speaker 2>all the cloud forest stuff, all stuff, all seas are
<v Speaker 2>spores he'd collected. And he's just a really good botanist,
<v Speaker 2>knew everything. You know. I've put him on the Patreon before.
<v Speaker 2>He's a he's got a very Uh, he's got a very.
<v Speaker 2>He's one who talks about the darkness of reality and
<v Speaker 2>of modern humanity and you know, the sociopathic nature of
<v Speaker 2>modern capitalism. Other fucking psychos always, you know, end up
<v Speaker 2>being in positions of leadership and power and authority and
<v Speaker 2>talks about it in a lighthearted, cheeky way, and it's
<v Speaker 2>it's I enjoy him a lot. Anyway. He got me
<v Speaker 2>into a lot of cool stuff. And so this I was.
<v Speaker 2>I was stoked to see this fucking cylinder and I
<v Speaker 2>could see the ninety feet up this thing. There's the
<v Speaker 2>way up in the canopy of this massive oak. At
<v Speaker 2>the edge it is clearing where the forests stopped was
<v Speaker 2>u and the rest of the forests protected, thank god,
<v Speaker 2>because you know humans be no humans doing what they do,
<v Speaker 2>they would take everything, just keeps the tumor just keeps growing.
<v Speaker 2>It's cut down the forest and we're going to graze
<v Speaker 2>cattle here. Fuck it. You don't like it. Uh. And
<v Speaker 2>of course there were like, you know, thirty other species
<v Speaker 2>of plants growing epiphetically on this oak tree, ferns, aeroids,
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of cool shit, tons of orchids. There were
<v Speaker 2>orchids up there. Just a marvelous fucking Again, this is
<v Speaker 2>the kind of shit because you mentioned low latitude places
<v Speaker 2>to people in America and I'm sure much of Europe,
<v Speaker 2>and they think jungle and tropically. They don't have any
<v Speaker 2>idea that. I mean, it's you know, you get nine
<v Speaker 2>thousand feet at low latitudes and it's it's not jungle
<v Speaker 2>at all. Man. It's a fucking it's something you couldn't
<v Speaker 2>even dream of. It's it doesn't really freeze too hard.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it. I don't think sometimes you get
<v Speaker 2>a frost maybe at ninety five hundred feet, but probably
<v Speaker 2>not in the canopy of these or not not in
<v Speaker 2>the understory of these forests. But everything's I mean again,
<v Speaker 2>these are things that would not do well in a
<v Speaker 2>tropical climate. Their metabolism is adapted to the climate of
<v Speaker 2>the SF Bay area or a Humboldt County, you know,
<v Speaker 2>cloud force, chili wet, not too hot, marvelous fucking anyway.
<v Speaker 2>And then there was Corone a crossoverwhere too, which is
<v Speaker 2>a cool parasite, a chlorophilis, so it lacks chlorophyll. It
<v Speaker 2>looks like a little red, swollen knob. And it took
<v Speaker 2>me a while to figure out what was going on
<v Speaker 2>with these plants, because it's just a knob. There's no leaves.
<v Speaker 2>It's a generalist. It taps into the roots of anything
<v Speaker 2>around it, whether it's an oak tree or a pectanopotus whatever,
<v Speaker 2>and then it puts out these knobs. Once it's stolen
<v Speaker 2>enough carbohydrates, it puts out these swollen knobs, and it's
<v Speaker 2>got a ligno tuber that it can dive back to
<v Speaker 2>that just keeps producing these knobs. Probably got a bunch
<v Speaker 2>of dormant buds on the ligno tuber and when it flowers,
<v Speaker 2>it sudds up this knob that's about six inches literally,
<v Speaker 2>it looks like a knob, looks like a pink potato,
<v Speaker 2>and then the scales fall off. It's got these protective
<v Speaker 2>scales on it, probably because it's got to push up
<v Speaker 2>through the duff. The scales fall off like pentagonal scales,
<v Speaker 2>and then the knob is either male or female. And
<v Speaker 2>it took me a while to figure out what the
<v Speaker 2>flowers were, so I had to. I'm looking at it,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what the fuck is this? These are
<v Speaker 2>like these pink little hairs, They're like, I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>five to eight millimeters long. It turned out those were
<v Speaker 2>the female flowers. I thought those were the male flowers
<v Speaker 2>because it looked like filaments and anthers. But then I
<v Speaker 2>found a paper on a closely related species, Helosis cayanensis,
<v Speaker 2>which I think, where is it Argentina? Where's a native
<v Speaker 2>to somewhere in South America. It's not in Central America.
<v Speaker 2>It's not in Coaswhega. And what I was looking at
<v Speaker 2>when I thought were male, were actually female. When I
<v Speaker 2>thought were female flowers were actually male whatever. But uh, anyway,
<v Speaker 2>but it took me a while to figure out what's
<v Speaker 2>going on with this thing, because I would see, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I saw, I would you'd see it a lot in
<v Speaker 2>the understory, and I would trying to figure out am
<v Speaker 2>I looking. You know, it's like anything. Most of the times,
<v Speaker 2>you can figure out whether you're looking at a male flower,
<v Speaker 2>a female flower, or a perfect aka bisexual aka or
<v Speaker 2>amaphroditic flower, because the stamens will be much more numerous.
<v Speaker 2>They'll have the general structure of a filament and an anther,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like the little rod that holds the anthra up,
<v Speaker 2>and then there'll be no ovary on there. And then
<v Speaker 2>of course the female flower, they'll be an ovary. It'll
<v Speaker 2>have a stigma something that looks like it's, you know,
<v Speaker 2>meant to capture pollen, and they'll only be one of them,
<v Speaker 2>or in some cases, yeah, like one ovary. But then
<v Speaker 2>maybe it'll have three lobes or something, you know, three branches,
<v Speaker 2>like an uphour bac. But this thing defied all fucking
<v Speaker 2>I don't know either way, it was still really cool
<v Speaker 2>to see, and I was seeing two different versions, and
<v Speaker 2>I saw probably seven or eight plants during my time there.
<v Speaker 2>And then they weren't flower when I was there in April,
<v Speaker 2>but I saw seven or eight plants during my time there,
<v Speaker 2>and then finally figured out, okay, it's not only are
<v Speaker 2>the little knobs are unisexual because I would only see
<v Speaker 2>one kind of flower, but they both knobs can occur
<v Speaker 2>on the same plant, so it's moniches. And yeah, you'd
<v Speaker 2>see them on every they were all over the place.
<v Speaker 2>They looked really cool. They're like bright pink, very conspicuous,
<v Speaker 2>you know, a bright pink potato attached to a rod
<v Speaker 2>at the base of some fucking tree or something. I'm
<v Speaker 2>really dropping a lot of f bombs. I'm sorry, you know,
<v Speaker 2>if that's if you're listening to this, it's some sort
<v Speaker 2>of you know nsf W. But yeah, Corinea crassa bilano
<v Speaker 2>four ace, which is a marvelous family of tropical parasitic plants,
<v Speaker 2>one of the coolest of which is dak Talanthu's taylor
<v Speaker 2>ie from New Zealand, which is pollinated by bat. So
<v Speaker 2>these bats actually crawl on the ground and hit this flower.
<v Speaker 2>But of course everything's been fucked up post colonization with
<v Speaker 2>you know, especially introduction of feral cats and all the
<v Speaker 2>other stupid shit that people bring with them, you know
<v Speaker 2>they Have you heard about the speaking of feral cats? Oh,
<v Speaker 2>there he goes again. Have you heard about the feral
<v Speaker 2>cat issue on Hawaii? It's in Hawaii? There's yeah, what
<v Speaker 2>what island? Uh? Specifically it is, but it's a there's
<v Speaker 2>an Instagram page called Nane dot org and it's it's
<v Speaker 2>n E n e dot org and Nane is a
<v Speaker 2>is an endangered Hawaiian goose. And these fucking cat people,
<v Speaker 2>these feral cat people, like cats are great pets if
<v Speaker 2>you keep them inside, you build some cool shit from
<v Speaker 2>the climb on, you know, wonderful. They're wonderful, They're sweet.
<v Speaker 2>I can't touch them because I get allergic. But every
<v Speaker 2>time I pet a cat, I'm like breaking out in
<v Speaker 2>hives five minutes later and then it lasts for three hours.
<v Speaker 2>But uh, but you know, but when they're loose, they're
<v Speaker 2>fucking vermin. They're just like rats. You know, rats are
<v Speaker 2>great pets too. I had a rat named Lenny Bruce
<v Speaker 2>when I was nineteen. Fucking thing used to crawl over
<v Speaker 2>me come when it was called. She was great. She
<v Speaker 2>was a great rat. But you don't want street rats
<v Speaker 2>in your you know, it's a different thing. You don't
<v Speaker 2>like them when they're after They can do some heinous shit,
<v Speaker 2>both street rats and and feral cats. But these fucking
<v Speaker 2>feral cat people are just absolutely nuts and they they're
<v Speaker 2>fucking rabbit too. I think a lot of them probably
<v Speaker 2>of toxoplasmosis mentally mental illness for sure, whether it's you know,
<v Speaker 2>whether the mental illness is genetic or whether it's caused
<v Speaker 2>by the Toxoplasma gandhi a parasite whatever, But there's a
<v Speaker 2>it's been funny watching they're they're trying to get a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of people who are concerned about the endangered birds
<v Speaker 2>and the fucking endangered marine life because the cat shit
<v Speaker 2>that contains toxoplasmosis, the toxoplasmosis spores washingto the ocean and
<v Speaker 2>it's completely lethal for Hawaiian monks, seals and sea otters
<v Speaker 2>and other shit. It's wonderful, huh, because they've never experienced before,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like some you know, nut jobs can be.
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of these nut jobs are probably infected
<v Speaker 2>with taxoplasmos as too. But but it's not lethal for them,
<v Speaker 2>you know, it just makes them do crazy shit like
<v Speaker 2>obsessed about feeding feral cats and public and you know
<v Speaker 2>some of these fucking women. It's mostly women. Oh my god,
<v Speaker 2>did he really say that. Yes, it's mostly fucking it's
<v Speaker 2>mostly the crazy cat lady trope is real. But most
<v Speaker 2>of these, most of these nutty fucking cat ladies. I
<v Speaker 2>bet there's one or two in there who's killing kids
<v Speaker 2>and cutting up little kids. The feet that these cat counties,
<v Speaker 2>you know, just like that Dead Kennedy's song Deer Abby.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah ever listening to that? It's the good ones about
<v Speaker 2>Reaganomics in the eighties, Same things going on with these
<v Speaker 2>feral somebody, these feral cat ladies. But they're doing it
<v Speaker 2>with kids and they're cutting them up. They dehydrate it,
<v Speaker 2>they mix it in with the kibble. No one ever know.
<v Speaker 2>You never know. Oh I just love my little kid.
<v Speaker 2>Oh I love my kiddies. And if they argue with
<v Speaker 2>any of these nut jobs too, then they I got
<v Speaker 2>my first death threat from one of them because I
<v Speaker 2>can't keep my fucking hate. I hate these people, I
<v Speaker 2>really do, you know. And they're like, oh, Tie, there's
<v Speaker 2>the way to go. TNR trapped you to return is
<v Speaker 2>just an excuse for feeding. If sterilizing feral animals worked anywhere.
<v Speaker 2>It would be done more, and it's not. It would
<v Speaker 2>be done with pigs, pythons, rats, it's not done with
<v Speaker 2>any of them. But anyway, I got my first death
<v Speaker 2>threat like a month or two ago. Very charming, it was.
<v Speaker 2>I was stoked to see it because someone had just
<v Speaker 2>ridden me a lady in Australia who does bat rescue.
<v Speaker 2>They got all these endangered fruit bats. And she's like,
<v Speaker 2>has anyone written you death threats yet? And I said, no,
<v Speaker 2>not of the feral cat people. I think I've been
<v Speaker 2>told to kill myself a number of times in the comments,
<v Speaker 2>but no one's ever like ridden me a DM, you know.
<v Speaker 2>And I got my first DM. Tell me it's always
<v Speaker 2>the same shit. It's, you know, some lady with like
<v Speaker 2>three hundred followers who's fucking pictures of cats or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>But she told me to kill myself, or she said
<v Speaker 2>she hopes I'd catch a bullet. I don't know what
<v Speaker 2>the fuck she said, you know, fuck, it's the parasite talking,
<v Speaker 2>after all, you Swiss cheese brain up there, fucking a
<v Speaker 2>you know, her whole here her a CT scan of
<v Speaker 2>her brain probably looks like a fucking, you know, wonderful
<v Speaker 2>polka dot uh partition, like a wonderful polka dot linen
<v Speaker 2>print or something, you know, or maybe like that the
<v Speaker 2>classic Italian tablecloth, you know, with the designs on it.
<v Speaker 2>Her she's got all kinds of shit going on upstairs,
<v Speaker 2>you know. The MRI. When they took an MRI of
<v Speaker 2>her brain, it looks like a fucking you know, piece
<v Speaker 2>of gorgonzola or something with some feta anyway, But yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's nuts. It's nuts that like that. You can't that
<v Speaker 2>that it's legal to feed these feral animals that prey
<v Speaker 2>on not only prey on endangered wildlife, but are shitting
<v Speaker 2>into the ocean too, and like spreading parasites Toxoplasma gania.
<v Speaker 2>The only place that can sectually reproduce is in the
<v Speaker 2>gut of a cat, of a feline, so it can
<v Speaker 2>also infect mountain lions and bobcats too. Obviously they don't
<v Speaker 2>they don't have those in Hawaii. But you know, and
<v Speaker 2>one of the things these feral cat nut jobs always
<v Speaker 2>say is you can always you can get you can
<v Speaker 2>contract taxo plasma from eating undercock's meat. Well, how do
<v Speaker 2>you think that? How do you think the livestock whose
<v Speaker 2>meat you're eating got got it in the first place.
<v Speaker 2>They contracted Toxoplasma gandhiy from inhaling catshit or drinking water
<v Speaker 2>with catsit in it anyway. But yeah, so that's currently
<v Speaker 2>going on Hawaii, and I guess they're trying to, uh,
<v Speaker 2>you know, wildlife conservations are trying to pass a bill
<v Speaker 2>that would make feeding illegal and these somebody's fucking cat
<v Speaker 2>ladies are gonna lose their mind, which is hilarious. I wish,
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could get it on tape because it's
<v Speaker 2>so funny. It's so it's fucking amazing to watch them
<v Speaker 2>spin their wheels. I mean, I can just read, I'll
<v Speaker 2>type in all caps, you know, just humans are the problem.
<v Speaker 2>Bis of shit, You fucking asshole, a fucking ceial, gonna
<v Speaker 2>be a fucking serial killing You'll like cats anyway, cock
<v Speaker 2>city on my coast. Okay, so where were we so
<v Speaker 2>Landrobracket Klyx. Oh, yeah, I was gonna. I was talking
<v Speaker 2>about that plant trema which is in cannabase and uh,
<v Speaker 2>Trima micrantham in this case, and it's u Supposedly there's
<v Speaker 2>an article that came out in Nature saying Trima trima
<v Speaker 2>micranthum has emerged as a promising new source of cannabinoids,
<v Speaker 2>including cannabideo CBD. Given the substantial medicinal demand for cannabinoids
<v Speaker 2>and the regulatory challenges associated with cannabis sativa due to
<v Speaker 2>the presence of nine tetrahydro cannabinol Delta nine, this study
<v Speaker 2>sought to explore the presence of CBD, TAC and their precursors.
<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll skip to the results. We don't need
<v Speaker 2>to read about the methodology. You can look up the
<v Speaker 2>paper if you want. Uh, but results in discussion. Fytal
<v Speaker 2>cannabinoids usually biosynthesized as acids. Neutral forms are produced through
<v Speaker 2>non enzymatic decarboxylation. Nice That nice, wasn't I added that
<v Speaker 2>in at the end. That wasn't. That's not in the paper.
<v Speaker 2>Cannabig girl, canna bid canna bid gyro lick, canna bid
<v Speaker 2>gerro lick. What the fuck is that? Cannabig geralic acid
<v Speaker 2>is the CBGA that's just called CBGA is the bioprecursor
<v Speaker 2>of other acidic cannabinoids and the plants, which is delta
<v Speaker 2>nine THHC and cannabi cannabidiolic acid. These substances give rise
<v Speaker 2>to their respective neutral forms THHC and cbd. Subsequentially, isomerization
<v Speaker 2>and oxidation products are formed in the present study to
<v Speaker 2>confirm the presence and estimate the concentration of the cannabidoids cbd,
<v Speaker 2>thhc cbda, and thhd aa in trema micrantham, its fruits inflorescences, branches,
<v Speaker 2>and leaves were analyzed, the extracts were obtained. Following we
<v Speaker 2>could get to the fucking point. Come on, I thought
<v Speaker 2>this was the results. This is brutal, and they got
<v Speaker 2>they got some nice grapts. Okay, there we go. Conclusion
<v Speaker 2>analytical methods using high resolution mass spec allowed the identification
<v Speaker 2>of previously undetected cannabinoids in trima micranthum. The use of
<v Speaker 2>standards for cbd, thhc, ZBDA, and thhc AA facilitated excellent
<v Speaker 2>resolution of the cannabinoid isomers with realt well resolved peaks
<v Speaker 2>for the neutral compounds. It means it was detected CBD
<v Speaker 2>and THHC and their ascidic precursors. Consequently, the identification of
<v Speaker 2>cannabinoids and the samples were achieved through accurate mass attention time. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>so it sounds like maybe they can use trema for this,
<v Speaker 2>which again it's a pioneer plant and it's a tree,
<v Speaker 2>and it can grow a lot, a lot faster. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>and I guess, I guess trima is uh. I guess
<v Speaker 2>the berries are not edible. They're bird dispersed, but there's
<v Speaker 2>some metabolite in there, or some compound in there that
<v Speaker 2>is not palatable to people that the humans metabolize. It
<v Speaker 2>can be somewhat toxic supposedly. And then there's other species
<v Speaker 2>of trema that I thought, wait, that makes sense. You know,
<v Speaker 2>the birds have different much different metabolisms and digestive systems
<v Speaker 2>and humans. So that's why you know you're gonna poison
<v Speaker 2>yourself with berries. It's going to be a berrier that
<v Speaker 2>was meant to be dispersed by birds that involved with
<v Speaker 2>bird dispersal, but not mammal dispersal, so you know. But anyway,
<v Speaker 2>so these these compounds THHC and CBD are are in
<v Speaker 2>this plant in low quantities. So you bry me like
<v Speaker 2>a dump truck load to make some sort of gummy
<v Speaker 2>or so. I don't know. Some company just sent me
<v Speaker 2>a yerba mate THHC drink and I was smart enough
<v Speaker 2>to pour out half of it. Because I don't smoke weed,
<v Speaker 2>I don't really get but I must have gotten dose
<v Speaker 2>with like three milligrams and it actually was really really
<v Speaker 2>pleasant as I went on a bike ride with my
<v Speaker 2>daughter and then we went to the playground and uh,
<v Speaker 2>but I definitely did not you know, towards the end,
<v Speaker 2>I was ready to get off. I was ready to
<v Speaker 2>get off the merry ground figuratively speaking, which is how
<v Speaker 2>I feel about weed in general. I don't like you know,
<v Speaker 2>once in a while, it's nice, shakes you out of
<v Speaker 2>a gets you to look at yourself, you know, can
<v Speaker 2>almost be mildly psychedelic. A little bit of self insight,
<v Speaker 2>gets some compassion, calmed down at the end of the day,
<v Speaker 2>feels really good to stretch. But I don't know how
<v Speaker 2>people do that ship every day. No offense to anybody
<v Speaker 2>who does. But if you do do it every day,
<v Speaker 2>maybe you want to think about, you know, cutting down
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. You know. Anyway, So let's uh another
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take a break from from Costa Rican cloud forest.
<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about Uno confused about resident she
<v Speaker 2>lean young. Her front yard.
<v Speaker 1>Is beautiful, It's a very natural long island.
<v Speaker 2>You got a native plant. It's not just some correct
<v Speaker 2>they don't like, but her village mayors. Is it very
<v Speaker 2>It looks like he manages quiznos. Yeah, so this guy
<v Speaker 2>looks like he manages a quiznos. He's wearing some slacks,
<v Speaker 2>he's wearing some navy slacks, some dockers. He's standing in
<v Speaker 2>front of what appears to be a mural in the
<v Speaker 2>city hall building. Where is this in Long Island. I've
<v Speaker 2>never been to Long Island. It looks like a place
<v Speaker 2>I probably get kicked out of, or you know, get
<v Speaker 2>into a fight with someone. And he's wearing a nice
<v Speaker 2>blue button down shirt. Again, looks like he manages a quiznos.
<v Speaker 2>Looks you know, slightly overweight. He's got some fucking extra
<v Speaker 2>jowlage in there, and uh widows peak and he he's
<v Speaker 2>Let's see, let's hear what this guy has to say,
<v Speaker 2>this purveyor of fine taste. Let's hear what he's got
<v Speaker 2>to say about this woman's native plant gard. You right here,
<v Speaker 2>we go see's it very differently? When ugly? Is that overwhelming?
<v Speaker 2>You have to call it what it is. That front
<v Speaker 2>yard looks hideous. It's the out That front yard looks hideous.
<v Speaker 2>Dad looks hideous. I said, wow, how can he dead?
<v Speaker 2>Front yard looks hideous? I mean, with all due respect
<v Speaker 2>for fuck's sake, for I mean, it's freaking hideous. What
<v Speaker 2>are you doing over you? It looks freaking hideous. Now
<v Speaker 2>my rectum is bleeding. I got, I got, I've got
<v Speaker 2>horrible hemorrhoids. I've been eating to a lot of try tip,
<v Speaker 2>a lot of summer sausage. It is this summer. I
<v Speaker 2>believe in doing things for the right season. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I ate a roast last night. I just live on
<v Speaker 2>a diet of meat and mayonnaise in butter. Huh, you're
<v Speaker 2>fucking sicko. Huh. Well, you you know, like lawns. Hey,
<v Speaker 2>you're fucking sicico. You have fun with the ticks. This
<v Speaker 2>is the kind of This is the kind of shit
<v Speaker 2>you get from the cult of the lawn. And it's
<v Speaker 2>so hard for me to especially to not to not
<v Speaker 2>get into with these people, like when they comment on
<v Speaker 2>something on a face crook that that venue. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I do Facebook for the for the I don't know
<v Speaker 2>why I'm on a Facebook pat I don't have a
<v Speaker 2>personal page, but of course I do the crime pace page,
<v Speaker 2>and I put a photo of a native plant guarden
<v Speaker 2>that was featured and Kill Your Lawn season two, which
<v Speaker 2>of course no one can watch. Someone needs to pirate that. Well,
<v Speaker 2>someone pirate that. They had somebody put it up on
<v Speaker 2>you Tube, and then earth X the network that they
<v Speaker 2>might as well. They might as well have just buried
<v Speaker 2>the fucking show under one hundred feet of concrete, like
<v Speaker 2>buried the the hard copy tapes, because you know no
<v Speaker 2>one can watch it. But I think you can watch
<v Speaker 2>it if you sign up for Filo or some other
<v Speaker 2>weird named app streaming app, but watch it with ads.
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, it was on YouTube for a while, and
<v Speaker 2>then now now the show is in the YouTube AI
<v Speaker 2>copyright detection, so if anyone tries to upload it might
<v Speaker 2>just get struck down again. They came after promotional videos.
<v Speaker 2>They said I could put up anyway, so I think
<v Speaker 2>torrents are what you got to do. But either way,
<v Speaker 2>one of the yards that was featured in there was
<v Speaker 2>was my mom went by it, so I guess it's
<v Speaker 2>been two years now, no a year and a half.
<v Speaker 2>She went by it the other day. It looks fucking great.
<v Speaker 2>She took send me a bunch of photos. I put
<v Speaker 2>that up on the Facebook page, you know, for the
<v Speaker 2>boomers and shit and whoever else. I don't know who
<v Speaker 2>looks at Facebook. You know it is it's addictive. It
<v Speaker 2>is meant to suck you in watching videos of whatever
<v Speaker 2>dumb shit they put up there. But you know, but anyway,
<v Speaker 2>and I posted the photos because the yard looks fucking great.
<v Speaker 2>There's Joe Pieweed, you trochy him everywhere, there's fucking big
<v Speaker 2>sylph you know, Sylphian portfoliate, a Midwest Prairie native plant garden.
<v Speaker 2>And of course there's always that one guy. He looks
<v Speaker 2>much like the guy who commented, looks like he manages
<v Speaker 2>a Quiznos too, or a fucking Papa John's. You know, no,
<v Speaker 2>there's no shade to these establishments. I wouldn't eat there,
<v Speaker 2>but you know, uh, you know, unless someone was, you know,
<v Speaker 2>threatening me with putting the red hot poker in my ass.
<v Speaker 2>But either way, you know, the look right. Or maybe
<v Speaker 2>it manages pay Less shoe store. You remember pay Less
<v Speaker 2>shoe store at Old Shaine. I think they're out of business.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but they got he's got that look
<v Speaker 2>to him, and he was, you know comment thinking would
<v Speaker 2>have fun with all the vermin I just you know
<v Speaker 2>this again, this this idea. You're so afraid of nature.
<v Speaker 2>You're fucking moron, you know. I gotta com I get
<v Speaker 2>worked up. I said, Maybe he's not a moron. It's
<v Speaker 2>impolite to in sell people. Maybe he's just has had
<v Speaker 2>a different experience than you. I don't know. He's a
<v Speaker 2>fucking jab anyway, fucking jag off. So this you know,
<v Speaker 2>and he's this guy's like, I like mowing. How do
<v Speaker 2>you like? You know? It's fine? I said, why do
<v Speaker 2>you comment to you? Obviously don't follow the page in
<v Speaker 2>the first place. I mean, you certainly don't look like it.
<v Speaker 2>How to fuck how'd you get here? And why not
<v Speaker 2>you commenting? Like, don't comment? I'm gonna I'm gonna mouth
<v Speaker 2>off to you. If you not, you must not know me.
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm gonna mouth off to you and all the
<v Speaker 2>dumb shit. It just it's crazy. Blows my mind. The
<v Speaker 2>fucking cult of the lawn thinking that nature is messy, Like,
<v Speaker 2>tell me you don't go outside you know, or better yet,
<v Speaker 2>name five native shrubs in your area. I know more
<v Speaker 2>about your own fucking region than you do. Huh, Johnny boy,
<v Speaker 2>fucking Bob Derret. What's what's his name? Bob Steve John?
<v Speaker 2>I don't fuck no, you know these guys, these fucking guys,
<v Speaker 2>these fucking American guys. Ah. Anyway, manage a quiz noos,
<v Speaker 2>that's what you were born to do. Manage the benigans.
<v Speaker 2>They still have benigans. Manage a uh TGI Fridays or
<v Speaker 2>Applebee's or something. You know. My friend Benny told me
<v Speaker 2>one story. One time when he was a kid, he
<v Speaker 2>jacked off under the table at apple Isn't that sick?
<v Speaker 2>Kind of sick? Fuck? I don't know why that came up,
<v Speaker 2>But now whenever I hear the word Applebee's, I think
<v Speaker 2>of that. I think if Benny jacking off under a
<v Speaker 2>table when he was like that, it's horrible. It's isn't
<v Speaker 2>that terrible? Who does that? But I guess that's what
<v Speaker 2>Applebee's are for anyway, they're not. It's it's you don't
<v Speaker 2>go there anyway. Yeah, So this that that sets me off.
<v Speaker 2>But it's the tide is changing at the same time too.
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot more people doing this because it feels good,
<v Speaker 2>and it really does. You just gotta you know. And
<v Speaker 2>now my yard is at the point too, where again
<v Speaker 2>it's it's ecological secession. I'm in the third year of
<v Speaker 2>secession here, I'm starting to remove certain trees when other
<v Speaker 2>trees get big. I planted dense, knowing I'm gonna have
<v Speaker 2>to remove shit later on, limbing stuff up, raising the canopy.
<v Speaker 2>So it's you can walk under there, and it's beauty,
<v Speaker 2>it's lovely. It's I got, you know, no hot sun
<v Speaker 2>baking the ground. That's the main thing where I live.
<v Speaker 2>You want to get that sun hitting the leaves, not
<v Speaker 2>the ground, because when they hit the ground, that's when
<v Speaker 2>you get that heat charge, that heat battery effect. You know,
<v Speaker 2>the ground turns into a space heater. So anyway, this
<v Speaker 2>is this is change. It's the prairie shit, especially man
<v Speaker 2>seeing all those because prairies are dense, but everything dies
<v Speaker 2>by November, and then of course it would be burned
<v Speaker 2>by indigenous people or or just slowly decomposed and build
<v Speaker 2>that wonderful black soil that made it on the chopping
<v Speaker 2>block for soybean and corn farms by a honkey duck
<v Speaker 2>cult later on, you know what I mean. So you know,
<v Speaker 2>to see the density of a prairie and just think
<v Speaker 2>it's messy, and there's ticks. You know, the ticks are
<v Speaker 2>out of control because of fire suppression and overpopulation, a
<v Speaker 2>deer and eradication the predators. Horrible management, horrible bad land management,
<v Speaker 2>ecologically illiterate and intellectually you know, depoperate land management. You
<v Speaker 2>know that's discordant with reality. Fire suppression, eradication of predators,
<v Speaker 2>and not managing deer populations. You gotta colum. There's too
<v Speaker 2>many deer, right, that's just what happens. Kibob Plateau in
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen thirties, famous ecological experiment, So, you know, but
<v Speaker 2>to see that and just to have never experienced the prairie,
<v Speaker 2>they're all gone except for like point zero three percent,
<v Speaker 2>and then think that it's messy, that that plant growth.
<v Speaker 2>That's fucking crazy to me. It's wild and prairies are
<v Speaker 2>So that's some of my favorite habitat too. After deserts
<v Speaker 2>and cloud forests and paramo, then comes prairies, prairies anywhere Argentina,
<v Speaker 2>fucking you know, Illinois, Iowa where you can't get any
<v Speaker 2>good acid. Who's do I know any acid chefs? And
<v Speaker 2>iwa are there any acid chefs? And who's an acid chef?
<v Speaker 2>And Iowa put a sh yoda. I guess I can't
<v Speaker 2>do that. You probably don't want the heat. But you
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, you know, let's be honest about that, Yad.
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yad looks hideous, okay. And you know I'm
<v Speaker 2>no purveyor of fine taste myself, as you could tell
<v Speaker 2>by the maronaa stains on my polo shit, yeah, in
<v Speaker 2>my caky's, you know. And you know every time I
<v Speaker 2>don't shake it off perfectly, I get a little dribble.
<v Speaker 2>There's a stain there in the crotch of my khki pants.
<v Speaker 2>My doctors you could see that right there. I got
<v Speaker 2>some nice loafers on. But this yard looks freaking hideous.
<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's be honest to you. What am I
<v Speaker 2>an asshole? Eh? Yeah? God, plants are messy. Concrete and
<v Speaker 2>asphalt is cleaning. Plants are messy. Okay. Let's get back
<v Speaker 2>to the time. We're talking about the oak force, we're
<v Speaker 2>talking about neotropical oaks, and we're talking about the order
<v Speaker 2>for gailies. Let's look at the oak family, of course
<v Speaker 2>is forgacy. Marilla is in uh uh mirror casey, which
<v Speaker 2>is of course its own family in the uh the
<v Speaker 2>order for gailies. Uh, and it's uh, but you know
<v Speaker 2>a lot of them are nitrogen fixing too. Yeah, it
<v Speaker 2>looks freaking idiots. A lot of the a lot of
<v Speaker 2>the the members of Mirra Casey are are nitrougen fixing.
<v Speaker 2>The wax myrtles, as they're colloquially known now, the genus
<v Speaker 2>Morella used to be Mierica. There was Miraca californica. It
<v Speaker 2>was the first one I learned that on the west coast.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a shrub, it's got a look to it,
<v Speaker 2>but it's in the oak order, right, just like castrie ac.
<v Speaker 2>The she oaks which look like pines, they're all Southern Hemisphere.
<v Speaker 2>Just like the oaks the beaches. The walnuts family Jugland
<v Speaker 2>they see is in the oak order. Did you know that?
<v Speaker 2>Did you know walnuts and pecans are related to the
<v Speaker 2>oaks Southern beaches, not the fagacy those of course Southern Hemisphere.
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, Mirra Casey and the birch family libulecy birches,
<v Speaker 2>which is uh, that's what allness is in. It's what
<v Speaker 2>all alders are in. Alder is A is a ruteral
<v Speaker 2>plant too, it's a pioneer species in uh, Costa Rica,
<v Speaker 2>and then of course you get one. What do you
<v Speaker 2>get in Columbia? Is that that's all? That's acumen? Out
<v Speaker 2>of the two most common members of the order for
<v Speaker 2>galilies in Colombia, which is as far south as oaks go,
<v Speaker 2>I think Alders might go a little bit further south
<v Speaker 2>thn Columbia. How far down to Alders going to South America,
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But the two dominant members of fagalies
<v Speaker 2>are the Andy and oak Corcus HUMBOLTI, I boy, I
<v Speaker 2>love the seed, ohs eh. When I'm managing my apple Bee's,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I managed I managed twenty employees in five
<v Speaker 2>kitchen staff at the apple Bee's located off a New
<v Speaker 2>Jersey Turnpike, where I perform auto filatio on myself in
<v Speaker 2>a backroom. Sometimes when no one's there anymore, I go
<v Speaker 2>into the freezer. I lock myself in a freezer. I
<v Speaker 2>have to call somebody and him come get me out,
<v Speaker 2>But it's all part of my kink. I locked myself
<v Speaker 2>in a freezing and I perform auto filatio and a
<v Speaker 2>little sling that I've got hanging up there with all
<v Speaker 2>the frozen meats and stuff, you know, frozen meats, frozen vegetables.
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's what I do after hours when I'm
<v Speaker 2>managing the applebee's. But let's be let's be honest. This
<v Speaker 2>lady's yead looks freaking I mean it's it looks freaking hideous.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's overgrown. It's messy. It's a messy yad.
<v Speaker 2>It's a messy yad. Speaking of sale it, I need
<v Speaker 2>someone to toss my sale it anyway, quirkers from both
<v Speaker 2>the eye Andy and oak, Andy and older, all this acuminata.
<v Speaker 2>You know it's not fair. It's not just the andies
<v Speaker 2>because a cumenata all the older, the accuminate older. You
<v Speaker 2>get in Costa Rica too, But this is are you
<v Speaker 2>having your mind blown yet? Jug Lands Neotropica. The Andyan
<v Speaker 2>walnut sounds it should be someone's nickname. Yeah, we got
<v Speaker 2>Joey Chestnut, the Andy and walnut over here, also known
<v Speaker 2>as the Andyan walnut. It would be like a poor
<v Speaker 2>name or like a wrestling by away. Hulk Hogan died. Wooo,
<v Speaker 2>what a piece of shit that guy was. Union Crushia
<v Speaker 2>a Trump voter, a Trump uh, you know, encouraging people
<v Speaker 2>to vote for the Orange Man and crushing unions. Do
<v Speaker 2>you ever hear that that piece of just even Tura
<v Speaker 2>talked about Hulk Hogan crushing unions snitching out to Vince McMahon. Crazy,
<v Speaker 2>what a dirt bag? That makes sense? So anyway, okay,
<v Speaker 2>so back to Colombian members of fagilias. Ooh, all this
<v Speaker 2>glutenosa is that down there? Really that might be a
<v Speaker 2>miss identification al faroa will yamsey eye that looks like
<v Speaker 2>uh oh, Quirkus polymorpha. No, that's got to be planted out,
<v Speaker 2>you gotta, I'm just looking at aina. You gotta take
<v Speaker 2>this with a grain of salt, obviously, because Heinach will
<v Speaker 2>show you invasive things. And oh but now they've got
<v Speaker 2>these little up in the corner of the thumbnail for financeralists,
<v Speaker 2>they got you know, native endangered and a pink invasive
<v Speaker 2>flag like for the river SiOH Cassarina cunning Hemi. Cassarhinas
<v Speaker 2>are invasive as hell in Mexico and uh in many
<v Speaker 2>places throughout the neotropics. Anyway, this is a nice one.
<v Speaker 2>Trigano Balinis excelsa Colombian black oak. But it's not it's
<v Speaker 2>got different fruits that doesn't have acorns. It's a really
<v Speaker 2>peculiar fucking what is this related to? What is Trigono
<v Speaker 2>balanus related to? And how did it get over there?
<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't it be, you know, because some of the uh,
<v Speaker 2>some of them the balanus that that word balanus. Wherever
<v Speaker 2>I see that, I've seen them mostly in Asian members
<v Speaker 2>of UH. Let's do a little search here. Oh, that's exciting.
<v Speaker 2>So the genus Trigono balinus, at least according to the
<v Speaker 2>IGH naturalists, I haven't done a proper ass uh exploration
<v Speaker 2>of the genus. This is just using II naturalists. So
<v Speaker 2>if it's super rare and it's special, if it's a
<v Speaker 2>species that superraria hasn't been observed, it won't be popping up.
<v Speaker 2>But the genus Triganobalanus has two species in it, Vertissilata
<v Speaker 2>and Excelsa. Excelsa's in Colombia and Vertilalata that only has
<v Speaker 2>two observations on iinat is from the Melee Peninsula, Borneo, Sumatra, Sulawesi. Goddamn,
<v Speaker 2>that sounds that sounds really fucking cool. But this is
<v Speaker 2>a weird genus and what the what clade is it in?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We're about to find out. There's a
<v Speaker 2>paper called Phylogenomic Analyses highlight innovation and introgression in the
<v Speaker 2>continental radiations of Pagaesi across the Northern Hemisphere. And so,
<v Speaker 2>for those that don't know, introgression is the transfer of
<v Speaker 2>genetic information from one species to another as a result
<v Speaker 2>of hybridization between them and repeated back crossing. So two
<v Speaker 2>different species are technically supposed to be unable to mate,
<v Speaker 2>to bang and to exchange genetic information. Right, So say
<v Speaker 2>you got you know, population A of a fish that's
<v Speaker 2>got orange stripes on it and glowing the dark eyes,
<v Speaker 2>and then you've got population B fish that's got spiny
<v Speaker 2>stuff on it and you you know the environment. What
<v Speaker 2>would be most selective is if you could combine those
<v Speaker 2>two traits. But you can't do that. You can't get
<v Speaker 2>get the glow in the dark eyes with the orange
<v Speaker 2>stripes to mix with the spiny stuff on it. So
<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do? How are you gonna get
<v Speaker 2>those how are you gonna give the what? You're using
<v Speaker 2>the hybrid not you, this is what happens, but you
<v Speaker 2>get it. Just work with me here. You're using the
<v Speaker 2>hybrid as a medium to exchange genes so so that's
<v Speaker 2>basically what's going on with introgression the hybrid, because a
<v Speaker 2>hybrid will eventually be able to or in some cases
<v Speaker 2>will eventually be able to mate with both species. You know.
<v Speaker 2>That's that's what's going on. So you know, but two
<v Speaker 2>species just say they can't bang for whatever reason, they
<v Speaker 2>can't exchange genes. So it's it's back crossing. That's the
<v Speaker 2>key word, back crossing, which is the same thing they
<v Speaker 2>were trying to do with the American chestnut. You know,
<v Speaker 2>they were trying to confer resistance to the Chryphenectria parasitica
<v Speaker 2>chestnut blight fungus. The resistance is in the Chinese chestnut.
<v Speaker 2>There's no resistance in the American chestnut. And they were
<v Speaker 2>trying to do that by hybridizing the two and then
<v Speaker 2>selecting the trees that looked like Americans but were hybrids,
<v Speaker 2>you know, but they had the traits of the American
<v Speaker 2>and the traits of the uh the tall stature of
<v Speaker 2>the American chestnuts, but the resistance of the Chinese, and
<v Speaker 2>then back crossing it with pure Americans until they would
<v Speaker 2>get something that looked like an American chestnut but had
<v Speaker 2>many of the alleles or just genes in general that
<v Speaker 2>confer drought resistance to or not drought resistant, fungal resistance,
<v Speaker 2>excuse me, blight resistance to the Chinese species. So basically
<v Speaker 2>trying to get the blight resistance from the Chinese into
<v Speaker 2>the American without you know, making a American chestnut a short,
<v Speaker 2>squat less stature tree like the Chinese is because the
<v Speaker 2>Chinese chestnuts don't get too big for whatever reason. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that, you know, was a trait that
<v Speaker 2>accompanied the blight resistance there just happens to be due
<v Speaker 2>to whatever, you know, whatever benefit that might confer Chinese
<v Speaker 2>trees in their native anyway, the fucking point is, that's
<v Speaker 2>what introgression is. But we're not even talking about introgression now,
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about oaks. This is just the title this
<v Speaker 2>paper I'm about to read you, so shit the fuck
<v Speaker 2>down and don't get too worked up, and just you know,
<v Speaker 2>but if you're in introgression's exciting, you should read about it.
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's basically what it is. And it's used
<v Speaker 2>in genetics quite often, especially you know, in some plant
<v Speaker 2>genera that are super species rich, where certain species are
<v Speaker 2>unable you know, they're genetically isolated, they're not able to interbreed,
<v Speaker 2>but every once in a while they can form a hybrid.
<v Speaker 2>You know, tudas think species mate, they produce hybrid offspring,
<v Speaker 2>though in many cases these hybrids are often less fit
<v Speaker 2>or sterile, you know, like mules, right, mules, or a
<v Speaker 2>hybrid and then back crossing. Occasionally a hybrid is fertile
<v Speaker 2>enough to mate back with one of the parent species,
<v Speaker 2>and that's when the gene transfer happens. If this happens repeatedly,
<v Speaker 2>you know, over generation, small pieces of genetic material from
<v Speaker 2>one species can introgress into the other species gene pool.
<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's a way to overcome reproductive barriers
<v Speaker 2>like why two species like a two species may not
<v Speaker 2>be able to mate anyway, but yeah, anyway, so the
<v Speaker 2>and it can create a third species, which is so
<v Speaker 2>it can lead to speciation. Okay, but anyway, let's I'm
<v Speaker 2>getting I'm fucking up here, We're getting We're getting distracted.
<v Speaker 2>So let's go back to this paper. Northern Hemisphere forests
<v Speaker 2>changed drastically in the early seen whoa, this is going back.
<v Speaker 2>This is we're talking fifty five million years here, with
<v Speaker 2>the diversification of the oak family for gacie cooling climates
<v Speaker 2>over the next twenty million years. Fussed that spread at
<v Speaker 2>temperate biomes that became increasingly dominated by oaks and their
<v Speaker 2>chestnut relatives. But there's a fucking nice cladogram in this paper.
<v Speaker 2>If you want to read this again. This is by
<v Speaker 2>Biao feng Zhu. Apparently it's Chinese. A lot of good
<v Speaker 2>botanists in China because they actually fund science over there.
<v Speaker 2>I want to go over there. You know, how is
<v Speaker 2>it over there? What they throw me in a can?
<v Speaker 2>Over there? What do you? I don't think so. I'm
<v Speaker 2>watching this fucking anol do push ups outside my window
<v Speaker 2>right now? Why do they do that? It's a carolina
<v Speaker 2>and nol too. I have carolina and cuban and noles here,
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, I don't think they can Speaking
<v Speaker 2>of introgression, I don't think they can breed, can they?
<v Speaker 2>I don't know? It's cool though, there's okay anyway, ad D.
<v Speaker 2>Sorry didn't take my meds today, Biao feng Zhu. Uh,
<v Speaker 2>Phylogenomic analyses highlight innovation and introgression and the kind of
<v Speaker 2>radiations of fagaci across the northern hemisphere. Here we use
<v Speaker 2>phylogenomic analyses a nuclear planted genomes to investigate the timing
<v Speaker 2>and pattern of major macro evolutionary events in ancient genome
<v Speaker 2>wide signatures of hybridization across figaci. Do you want to
<v Speaker 2>take a ride, We'll go get a con innovation related
<v Speaker 2>to see this. Persia is implicated in triggering waves of
<v Speaker 2>continental radiations, beginning with the rapid diversification of major lineages
<v Speaker 2>and resulting in unparallel transformation of forest dynamics within fifteen
<v Speaker 2>million years following the KPg extinction. That's the dinosaur extinction, asshole. Okay, hey,
<v Speaker 2>if you want new windows, they're going to lead in
<v Speaker 2>some new windows. You need some new windows insurance fraud.
<v Speaker 2>We detect introgression at multiple time scales, including ancient events
<v Speaker 2>predating the origin of genus level diversity. This is already
<v Speaker 2>going to be a good paper. I'm getting fucking hot.
<v Speaker 2>As oak lineage has moved into newly available temperate habitats
<v Speaker 2>in the early Miocene, okay, secondary contact between previously isolated
<v Speaker 2>species occurred. This resulted in adaptive introgression which may have
<v Speaker 2>further amplified the diversification of white ooks across Eurasia. Eurasia. Fuck,
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear I don't want to read
<v Speaker 2>about your Asia. We're talking about the neotropics. Goddamn it. Anyway,
<v Speaker 2>let's just skip all of this. Let's get down to
<v Speaker 2>the clatagram. Okay, let's see Corcus. You got subgenus Carcus
<v Speaker 2>and subgenus Cirrus, right, So it used to be that
<v Speaker 2>these two different subgen era of oaks were. I did
<v Speaker 2>a podcast with a gentleman on this last year. You
<v Speaker 2>might want to go back to that. That would be
<v Speaker 2>the because he's you know who was that, Andrew? Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that was Andrew Hip from August twenty second, twenty twenty four.
<v Speaker 2>It's called oaks are the beasts of an ecosystem. But
<v Speaker 2>we we really get into the weeds on that. But anyway,
<v Speaker 2>so it used to be the two different subjer and
<v Speaker 2>I think that the main morphological features are not in
<v Speaker 2>the leaves anymore. I think subgenus Corcus is the New
<v Speaker 2>World clade or high Latitude clade, primarily consisting of species
<v Speaker 2>from the Americas, with a few found in Eurasia and
<v Speaker 2>northernmost North Africa. And then you got subgenus Cirrus c. Rris,
<v Speaker 2>which is often called the Old World clade or mid
<v Speaker 2>Latitude clade, which is exclusively native to Eurasia and North Africa.
<v Speaker 2>But let's go back to this that Old World New
<v Speaker 2>World thing that still trips some people out. I think
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard it in a while, but it does apply.
<v Speaker 2>Old World where humanity came from, New World, where humanity
<v Speaker 2>migrated to. Even if you're going back to indigenous Americans,
<v Speaker 2>there's still thirty thousand years not that long. It's not
<v Speaker 2>that long. It's not that long compared to how ow
<v Speaker 2>okay anyway, So where the fuck is? Uh? God, damn it?
<v Speaker 2>Oh this really, this is a bit. It's all blurried.
<v Speaker 2>A PDF for this beautiful philology they used is all blurry.
<v Speaker 2>Corcus subgenus, Corcus subgenus serious anyway. Then we got no,
<v Speaker 2>the lithocarpus, which is California tanno. Ooh it makes me.
<v Speaker 2>That's a beautiful tree, you know, northern California. What is it?
<v Speaker 2>Two ecotypes there was the tall one and then that weird,
<v Speaker 2>the weird shrubby one from northern California. Uh. And they
<v Speaker 2>got like little the acorns look kind of spiny, the
<v Speaker 2>cap to the acorn and then we got Lithocarpus Chrysolepis.
<v Speaker 2>Uh what is this? What what chrysil Oh yeah, Chrysolepis chrysophola.
<v Speaker 2>Those are the chinkapins and Chrysolepis sempervirans, which I miss
<v Speaker 2>those trees. Those were in California, too, delicious nuts and
<v Speaker 2>they grow. They're really hard to grow. I got one
<v Speaker 2>growing in my I collected a ship tennessees in the
<v Speaker 2>Santa Cruz Mountains once and and grew a bunch. But
<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to be really hard to keep alive, which
<v Speaker 2>I think is what I experience. Then a bunch were
<v Speaker 2>dying there was that was kind of an endangered tree.
<v Speaker 2>Chrystlipis superveians as the dwarf one too, But they make
<v Speaker 2>like spiny birds, you know, make spiny birds. You gotta
<v Speaker 2>wear leather gloves, you gotta wear put your leather on
<v Speaker 2>to take him out. God, this woman's yard looks freaking hideous.
<v Speaker 2>It's just cool what it is. Might put my auto
<v Speaker 2>fillatio sling on and the meat freeze at Applebee's where
<v Speaker 2>I work, and then I'm gonna you know, they've been
<v Speaker 2>thinking of running for maya at its town mayor Maya
<v Speaker 2>of Long Island. What do you think of that? God,
<v Speaker 2>this woman's yiad looks freaking hideous? Okay? And then cast
<v Speaker 2>Anopsis castania, and and Trigono balanus that's where it is,
<v Speaker 2>excelsa Okay. So Trigano balanus is way out there. It's
<v Speaker 2>kind of like on its own branch. What is its
<v Speaker 2>sister to, it's sister to the rest of the entire
<v Speaker 2>rest of the clade. Oh, this is a this is
<v Speaker 2>exciting now. So then you gotta think, how did Trigano
<v Speaker 2>balance to go one species in Colombia and the rest
<v Speaker 2>are in Asia. What's going on there? How did that
<v Speaker 2>dispersal happen? You know we talk in like pre breakup
<v Speaker 2>of gondwan or what this is where I like thinking
<v Speaker 2>about how did all these things get there? Like how
<v Speaker 2>did pectinopoti is Stanley I, you know, a Gondwanan conifer,
<v Speaker 2>how did that get up to the highlands of Costa Rica?
<v Speaker 2>And what Pectanopotus species once grew an Antarctica before it
<v Speaker 2>froze over. So anyway, yeah, so that's where that's where
<v Speaker 2>Trigono balanus is. Trigonobalanus I guess why is it called Trigonobalinus.
<v Speaker 2>There we go. Yeah, trigon meaning three angled or triangular.
<v Speaker 2>Sow that coming, that's what the fruits look like. And
<v Speaker 2>then balanos meaning acorns. So it does. It looks like
<v Speaker 2>a three angled fruit. Doesn't really look like an acorn
<v Speaker 2>all it looks looks more like a beech fruit kind of,
<v Speaker 2>but it's got three angles. Oh well, how about that
<v Speaker 2>Trigonobalanus is a genus genus of three species. Yeah, there's
<v Speaker 2>a third species that just hasn't been observed on naturalist yet.
<v Speaker 2>What's up with the old Caucasian men hating not I
<v Speaker 2>naturalists too? By the way, have you noticed it? I
<v Speaker 2>noticed that a friend of mine hate was hating on it.
<v Speaker 2>I don't fucking get it. It drives me nuts. God,
<v Speaker 2>it's horrible that people could learn. You know, I'm gonna
<v Speaker 2>shame that right away. I'm gonna shot all over anybody
<v Speaker 2>who who who uh shits on? I neet? What a
<v Speaker 2>wonderful what a wonderful platform, wonderful venue. It so goofy.
<v Speaker 2>You know you're worried abou it's gonna give your locations
<v Speaker 2>that you like the gate keep away or like the
<v Speaker 2>general idea you can obscure everything you can put locations private.
<v Speaker 2>And all the old men that ship on this don't
<v Speaker 2>even know how it works, which also fucking drives me nuts.
<v Speaker 2>If you're gonna shit on something, know how it works. No,
<v Speaker 2>educate yourself about it, dummy, don't just you know, Botany's
<v Speaker 2>only reserved for professionals and experts. Anyway. Okay, so trigon
<v Speaker 2>balance is a gene. I'm really into this now too.
<v Speaker 2>In Southeast Asia. Yeah, one in northern South America. That's
<v Speaker 2>really exciting, that's cool. I want to see that Columbia here,
<v Speaker 2>I come Colombia were coming down there. So anyway, but
<v Speaker 2>this this this book, I was reading about it. I
<v Speaker 2>guess from pollen. I guess you know. Oaks have been
<v Speaker 2>in Mexico for ten million years, long time, long fucking time,
<v Speaker 2>epicenter of diversity. That's what kind of what you would expect.
<v Speaker 2>But oaks and olders have only been in Colombia by
<v Speaker 2>let's see, the Isthmus of Panama is thought to have
<v Speaker 2>closed between five and three point five million years ago,
<v Speaker 2>not that long ago. And as it gradually closed, of course,
<v Speaker 2>he had the Great American Interchange, which is when you
<v Speaker 2>know plants and animals from northern hemisphere mingled with the
<v Speaker 2>Southern hemisphere and the marsupial tiger that used to be
<v Speaker 2>in South America one extinct and was you know competed
<v Speaker 2>by Smilodon. Okay, I guess they're calling it the Great
<v Speaker 2>American biotic interchanged now, Gabby, And this h it occurred
<v Speaker 2>three million years ago, and it was, you know, one
<v Speaker 2>of two continents when this Missispanama closed and you know,
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting on a west side geriatric Italian, you know,
<v Speaker 2>flea market voice right now or like the wind a
<v Speaker 2>salesman you want to buy some windows. Anyway, it began, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>around five to three million years ago, and it led
<v Speaker 2>to a dramatic exchange of mammals, reptiles, amphibians, even fresh
<v Speaker 2>water organisms between isolated continents and so it was a
<v Speaker 2>big mix up. It was probably like a micro example
<v Speaker 2>of what happened of what humans have done in the
<v Speaker 2>last one hundred and two hundred years, moving shit around
<v Speaker 2>the globe. It's moving like, you know, all these plants
<v Speaker 2>and animals from the continents, from the European and Asian
<v Speaker 2>continents to Northum to the Americas and you know, fucking
<v Speaker 2>up Australia as well by you know, basically invasion biology.
<v Speaker 2>This is like a key it's a key point. I wonder, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>I wonder what happened because I mean a lot of
<v Speaker 2>shit one extinct. I mean, there's you're merging the the
<v Speaker 2>ecosystems of two continents together. Now they can and all
<v Speaker 2>this stuff you're all put into floodgates. All this stuff
<v Speaker 2>from North America can flood into South America, and all
<v Speaker 2>this ship from South America can flood upward. There's gonna
<v Speaker 2>be winners and losers. As you know, some ranges, some
<v Speaker 2>species are gonna have both plants and animals are gonna
<v Speaker 2>have ranges that expand, and some are going to have
<v Speaker 2>ranges that contract. And so what happened? But I'm sure
<v Speaker 2>there were you know, birds have always been flying north
<v Speaker 2>and south doing the amphi tropical distribution thing. There's many
<v Speaker 2>plant genera that occur both, you know, for example, on
<v Speaker 2>the coast of California and the coast of Chile. Facilia
<v Speaker 2>meant Zilia, lots of members of Baragnac. The uh, oh, god,
<v Speaker 2>damn it, what was the what was the cryptanta? That
<v Speaker 2>was it? I can't believe I forgot Ryptanta. I haven't
<v Speaker 2>seen one in so long. We don't get many in Texas,
<v Speaker 2>but you know birds have been. And then of course
<v Speaker 2>there's like even a there's a hibiscus species in Texas
<v Speaker 2>that is rare Hibiscus striatsking. It's a big fucker too,
<v Speaker 2>and get like ten feet tall that grows in their
<v Speaker 2>corpus christie. And also occurs in like a bog some
<v Speaker 2>bog areas in Argentina, not bog marshy areas in Argentina.
<v Speaker 2>So you know, one example, there's quite a few others,
<v Speaker 2>so but always at similar latitudes, and then nowhere in between,
<v Speaker 2>you know, like thirty degrees north, thirty degrees south, et cetera.
<v Speaker 2>But that you know, now when you're collect connecting land,
<v Speaker 2>now you're can have a lot more transfer. And then
<v Speaker 2>of course there's animals moving stuff, and they're fur whatever
<v Speaker 2>moving seeds in their first So anyway, the Great American
<v Speaker 2>Biotic Interchange, significant geological and biological event curred three million
<v Speaker 2>years ago and and I think what is it. Let's
<v Speaker 2>see here on this book. It's substantiated by the first
<v Speaker 2>appearance date of two trees, allnu and Qurcas, and that's
<v Speaker 2>when they reached south America. The funds of one pollen
<v Speaker 2>record from the basin of Bogota shows that all this
<v Speaker 2>immigrated in this area about one point one million years
<v Speaker 2>before present and Quarcas around four hundred and seventy thousand
<v Speaker 2>years before present. And I guess is this is measured
<v Speaker 2>from fossil pollen. Yeah, pollen, some micro fossils of pollen
<v Speaker 2>very reliable, so we know that not the vegas used
<v Speaker 2>to grow or was growing in an arcticle until about
<v Speaker 2>two million years ago when it finally got clipped out. Okay,
<v Speaker 2>let's take a break because I know, you know we're
<v Speaker 2>working with the short attention span generation. Let's take a
<v Speaker 2>break to something more lighthearted and funny. And when I
<v Speaker 2>say funny, I mean I was goddamn rolling on the
<v Speaker 2>floor left. I couldn't stop laughing about this last night.
<v Speaker 2>You know it is it's a it's a it's a
<v Speaker 2>real of some lady freaking out. You know, she looks
<v Speaker 2>like an unhealthy white woman. And there's a few of all.
<v Speaker 2>I've seen fewd thos in my life, you know, angry,
<v Speaker 2>these just these fucking miserable people. You could tell they're
<v Speaker 2>fucking miserable, and you almost feel bad for them, but
<v Speaker 2>then they act like cunt, so it doesn't matter. You know,
<v Speaker 2>it's a non gender specific cunt. You know, if people
<v Speaker 2>are still getting upset about that kind of thing, I
<v Speaker 2>hope not. I hope we have a bigger fish to fry.
<v Speaker 2>And you're not you know, you're you're, your lily white
<v Speaker 2>thin skin. Isn't getting offended by using the word cunt.
<v Speaker 2>You know in Australia to use the word cunter for
<v Speaker 2>it everybody? Huh. I thought I thought I filtered most
<v Speaker 2>of you out. I thought I turned most of you.
<v Speaker 2>I drove you away. Anyway, Let's watch this video because
<v Speaker 2>this is really this is funny. It starts off a
<v Speaker 2>little upsetting and put a trigger warning in there for you,
<v Speaker 2>but it gets really good, gets really fun. Let's watch this.
<v Speaker 2>Here we go, where is it? Where? There we go?
<v Speaker 2>And I got you on video that you're destroying my
<v Speaker 2>So this lady, she looks like she's kind of gangly,
<v Speaker 2>you're gangly, pale, this neighborhood. She's banging hammers on this
<v Speaker 2>Latino woman's car probably got toxic playing. She looks like
<v Speaker 2>one of the cat feeders. I'm colling.
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry.
<v Speaker 2>She probably got toxo because she's hitting the garbage can
<v Speaker 2>because my labor has herd go back to Mexico. There
<v Speaker 2>we go. Okay, that fits the bill I would expect.
<v Speaker 2>Let them know that she really looks unhealthy. She doesn't
<v Speaker 2>look healthy. And now she's in a headlock. Is that
<v Speaker 2>a problem, motherfucker? You can over tell me she's getting
<v Speaker 2>read the riot. She's in the headline. Off turn that
<v Speaker 2>motherfucking hose off mother to be played with. This is
<v Speaker 2>so good, you understand, it's so filling. I want to
<v Speaker 2>watch this every morning. Your carpets and Becky, she called
<v Speaker 2>her Becky.
<v Speaker 1>How sticker you oh stick.
<v Speaker 2>She's still in a headline, and then boom, she just
<v Speaker 2>chucks her into a bush, chucks her into a bush. Boom,
<v Speaker 2>just like that, just like she's throwing her down a
<v Speaker 2>garbage shoot of an apartment complex. Fucking terrific. I watched
<v Speaker 2>that probably seven times last night. I was chuckling. I
<v Speaker 2>was laughing my ass off. God, that was good, Oh god,
<v Speaker 2>it was good. You one more time. Thank you caught
<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of her, put the fuck out of
<v Speaker 2>this neighborhood, got the fucking shit, fucking ship. I think
<v Speaker 2>this is California. Judging from the plants I see every
<v Speaker 2>the landscaping. Just those are California horticultural atrocities or a
<v Speaker 2>mental pillows. Spore them in her goddamn hand, and she's ault.
<v Speaker 2>Oh she doesn't look well. She's definitely got toxo to
<v Speaker 2>Moses brain season on video. Oh it's good. You got
<v Speaker 2>a problem, pitch, Oh that's nice problem. Do you have
<v Speaker 2>a problem, pitch? Do you have a problem? Motherfucker. I
<v Speaker 2>don't know what was up with this. She was on one.
<v Speaker 2>She did take her meds. Tell me this last time.
<v Speaker 2>I'm only doing this twice. I promise you, I promise myself.
<v Speaker 2>And like nine nine bitches in there she uses nine.
<v Speaker 2>Throw her in at the bush. Here we go, check
<v Speaker 2>her into the bush as in the whole lands. Boom,
<v Speaker 2>just like that and through a juniper. God, that's solid
<v Speaker 2>as hell. Okay, let's get back to the task at hand. Now.
<v Speaker 2>You know, I spent a lot of days sucking on futs,
<v Speaker 2>trying my water filatio sling and the meat freeze at
<v Speaker 2>Applebee's where I work. That I mentioned, I'm running for
<v Speaker 2>Maya next to you. Have you seen this woman's yacht?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, hey, let's be honest about this woman's yacht.
<v Speaker 2>It looks here to you's okay, hey, hey, okay, anyway,
<v Speaker 2>I think we'll wrap that up there. That's a good
<v Speaker 2>that's a good ending spot. I'm gonna be speaking ah turets.
<v Speaker 2>Someone wrote me upset that the fucking the fucking people
<v Speaker 2>that write me sometime, I don't get it. Someone wrote
<v Speaker 2>me upset that I had that I joke about having turets.
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I'm joking anymore. If you
<v Speaker 2>spend any days around me, you hear the fucking singing,
<v Speaker 2>the nonsense, the bullshit that comes out of my mouth,
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I just don't like the silence, and
<v Speaker 2>I like making some people uncomfortable, depending on who they
<v Speaker 2>might be. And I just like I like a little
<v Speaker 2>I like a little song and dance too. You know.
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe I do have tourets. But someone
<v Speaker 2>wrote me trying to make me feel bad about joke
<v Speaker 2>on having thurets. I said, listen, how the fuck I
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know. Everyone's got such sensitive feeling.
<v Speaker 2>I know this is such a cliched thing to say.
<v Speaker 2>And this is also like a right wing talking point
<v Speaker 2>to try and get away with saying racist shit. That's
<v Speaker 2>obviously not what I'm doing. This is got, This is
<v Speaker 2>fucking ridiculous, though, I'm still amazed at some of the
<v Speaker 2>people that write me. You're you think I'm being ablest
<v Speaker 2>towards you because you because I joke about having turets.
<v Speaker 2>Come on one, you just you gotta fu you have
<v Speaker 2>a funny uh disability. I'm sorry, I'm just really digging myself.
<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just fucking hunkering down. I'm just doubling down.
<v Speaker 2>I'm really settling in this. Touretts is kind of funny.
<v Speaker 2>You could joke about it. It's fine that someone else
<v Speaker 2>wrote me, uh saying that I shouldn't straight people shouldn't
<v Speaker 2>wear drag. First off, I had a good ten year
<v Speaker 2>by curious period, so fuck right off there. And in second,
<v Speaker 2>anybody can wear a drag, you know, really, fuck you.
<v Speaker 2>It's just that's it's unbelievable. They were They were set
<v Speaker 2>because me and Al no actually just me dressed in drag.
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, al did it too, when we dressed as
<v Speaker 2>old ladies and kill your lawn, which no one can watch.
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where to I don't even know
<v Speaker 2>where you can where can you even pirate that they
<v Speaker 2>shut it down. You're really gonna get offended because someone's like, fuck, oh,
<v Speaker 2>that is when you lose me. You know, someone needs
<v Speaker 2>to kick in the balls or non ball whatever whatever
<v Speaker 2>you identify as. You need a kick in your growing
<v Speaker 2>area if you're going to tell someone they can't wear
<v Speaker 2>drag anyway. Okay, so now that I've offended more people,
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be speaking at the New Mexico Mycological Society
<v Speaker 2>in beautiful Krout cloud Craft, which is at like eight
<v Speaker 2>thousand feet elevation with UH and Alan's going to be
<v Speaker 2>the Alan and Mandy are going to be the two uh.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be doing a presentation of lawn and Killing
<v Speaker 2>and then talking about New Mexico native plants, and then
<v Speaker 2>we're doing I think we're doing another Ecuador trip. And
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited because there's a really cool botanist that I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna hit up when I'm down there. She lives in
<v Speaker 2>Banios and she studies mo Nina, which is the genus
<v Speaker 2>in polygalaci. It's gonna have her on the podcast. Maybe
<v Speaker 2>I'll do what I'm down there anyway, and then we
<v Speaker 2>got a bunch of Ecuador in my collegists are gonna
<v Speaker 2>be working with us, and it should be a good time.
<v Speaker 2>But we're doing another Ecuador. We're doing an Ecuador trip
<v Speaker 2>November eighth to like twenty second. I'll be posting it
<v Speaker 2>in Instagram stories whenever tickets are available, whenever deets are available,
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna be in the Parmo and then also
<v Speaker 2>in the upper Amazon, so like thirty eight hundred feet.
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's the tropics, So elevations everything, diversity of climates.
<v Speaker 2>Always ask whenever someone tells you where, you know they're
<v Speaker 2>they're telling you where something is in the triphes you
<v Speaker 2>always got to ask what elevation at that certain latitude?
<v Speaker 2>A wide range of elevations, and it's going to mean
<v Speaker 2>different conditions, but certainly lots of rain. I think Novembers
<v Speaker 2>of rainy season still probably, And so that'll yeah, that'll
<v Speaker 2>be November eighth to like twenty first to twenty second,
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit longer, I don't know, but it
<v Speaker 2>should be fun as hell. These trips are always fun.
<v Speaker 2>Teaching exploring turetts, which you can't joke about anymore, I guess,
<v Speaker 2>and and singing lots of nonsense. It'll be great. And
<v Speaker 2>then pre order for the book is going to be
<v Speaker 2>available in August. I guess for Concrete Botany, which is
<v Speaker 2>not due out until April, but you know, do me
<v Speaker 2>a favoring goal, pre order it. It's really good. We
<v Speaker 2>get in. I get into biogeography, speciation, what makes the
<v Speaker 2>plant native versus invasive. The chapter four is all about
<v Speaker 2>on killing and shitting on modern horticulture and horticultural traditions
<v Speaker 2>and horticultural atrocities. And I get a little bit into
<v Speaker 2>how I got into the body and what made it exciting.
<v Speaker 2>I talk about the Illegal Garden and Mandela. I think
<v Speaker 2>it's one hundred and eighty pages. I forget how long
<v Speaker 2>it is, but it's it'll be it'll be great. I
<v Speaker 2>think you'll like it. I think you really enjoy it,
<v Speaker 2>so I'll cut it off. There ain't I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I'll check you next time. Have a good I'll be
<v Speaker 2>on the road the next two weeks. If you want
<v Speaker 2>to order stickers, it's twenty bucks now for nine okay,
<v Speaker 2>and it'll be that the venmo Is Society as hell.
<v Speaker 2>No purchase protection. Leave your full name, your address, and
<v Speaker 2>your zip code. Some people forget the zip code. They
<v Speaker 2>put the city in it. They put the zip code,
<v Speaker 2>and I gotta go look it up. And it does
<v Speaker 2>end up to be a pain in the ass after
<v Speaker 2>a while or or it gets returned whatever, and uh,
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's it all right, it's all I
<v Speaker 2>gotta have Grasty diego fox up by that and I
<v Speaker 2>have her on video. You got a problem, bitch? Is
<v Speaker 2>there a problem? Motherfucker? You put your mother fucking shit
<v Speaker 2>on me. I can't bitch, tell me to go to
<v Speaker 2>fuck backs overhere, Pitch, tell me, tell me, bitch, tell
<v Speaker 2>me now, tie that motherfucking holes off, bitch, fust shut
<v Speaker 2>up your fucking half. Do you understand me, bitch? I'm
<v Speaker 2>not a motherfucker to be playing with. Do you understand me, bitch?
<v Speaker 2>So you fucked up your car, bitch, and you think
<v Speaker 2>that shit is cute? Bitch by the day, Becky, mother
<v Speaker 2>fucking race the bitch you praise this mother fucking I'm
<v Speaker 2>sticking you, bitch. I'm sticking you, bitch. Do you understand me? Bitch?
<v Speaker 2>Do you understand me? Pitch? And I got you on
<v Speaker 2>video that you're destroying my car? Thank you put the
<v Speaker 2>fuck out of this neighborhood, you fucking shit.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, cool Lady,