Movies of the Month (Oct) with Mikey and Kelsey + Movie Review: Here  + Trailer Park: Presence

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I am your host. You okay over this?

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Speaker 2: It's aggressively loud.

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Speaker 1: Oh I was a loud Yeah. Oh I heard your sniffles in the microphone. Oh my god, that threw me off louder.

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Speaker 2: I was in Denver this weekend. I have climate acclamation issues.

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Speaker 1: In full of transparency. I always like to talk about what goes into recording this and where we are. This is our first time really sitting down today. It's like the end of a work day.

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Speaker 2: It is I am fully in business, casual.

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Speaker 1: As you can see, and we're going to talk about our October movies of the month. In the movie review, we'll be talking about Tom hanks new movie here that you actually didn't see with me.

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Speaker 2: I did want to see it, but I again was going to Denver and I didn't feel like I could tell you to sit at home and do nothing.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you my quick analysis now, I don't think you missed much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw that.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Tom Hanks is kind of on a downward like in his sixties? Is his late sixties, because he did a man called Ove and It, Oh, Auto and Auto, the book you would know the book what you you like books.

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Speaker 2: Mis Riad? I am only nine away from my goal for the air.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. If it wouldn't have been for that movie, he'd be like, what is he doing lately? Like he does a lot of Apple plus movies like that Finch movie The Boat that was awful, that was terrible. I don't remember the name of Rayhound. And then he did the Elvis movie where he was Harolds Precily's.

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Speaker 2: Manager, Colonel something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Colonel Tom Parker. I know I said that part weird, But anyway, this movie didn't help him. But I give you my full thoughts on that. In the trailer park, we'll be talking about a horror movie that has an entirely different perspective because it's from the dark entities perspective instead of the humans in the house. So, you know, I love a haunted house movie, like where the House is Haunted, but this time you are seeing it from the perspective of like the ghost.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Are you gonna go see that heretic heritic? I think it's heretic.

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Speaker 1: Is it heretic?

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Speaker 2: It's heredit? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I always thought it was heretic. One of my favorite episodes of the Simpsons is Homer. I guess it could be the harrod Ding. I say, heretic. There's a heretic?

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Speaker 2: Can we can we google that? Can we google a pronunciation?

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Speaker 1: It's with the dude who is a jerk and everything that doesn't really narrow and done. He was in Wonka. Can't I think of his name? The dude who's a jerk in real life and he plays jerk roles you grant? Oh yeah, yeah, let's see heretic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, heretic? Heretic?

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Speaker 1: Was I right about a word?

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Speaker 2: You were?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Heretic? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Clip that? Okay.

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Speaker 2: I'll admit I literally made a note in my phone one time. I signed it and I said I was wrong and I signed and dated it.

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Speaker 1: And there's only been one note of those ever. But all right, we'll get into this week's episode. Thank you for being here, Thank you for being subscribed. Chat to the Monday Morning Movie crew, and now let's talk movies.

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Speaker 2: So, no, can I get one of these ring lights from my office? I look much better on this camera than I did on the zoom call today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get you. You can get the smaller ones.

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Speaker 2: It was a terrible, uh fluorescent lighting in my office and I just looked like, well like I guess because I'm wearing like cream too. I looked like a potato.

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Speaker 1: I always look like a potato.

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Speaker 2: You do kind of have a mister potato head.

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Speaker 1: I do, and I'm brown. I just can't grow a mustache.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna go that far. You were brown.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's why I look like a potato.

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Speaker 2: You just have a potato shaped head.

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Speaker 1: Speaking to my head. I could never find hats to fit.

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Speaker 2: No, your hat is so big.

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Speaker 1: The thing about like, when I lost weight, I did go down like half a hat size, but before that I was a size eight. A size eight. You can't go to lids and find a size eight.

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Speaker 2: Here's the crazy thing is, your head doesn't look big.

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Speaker 1: It's deceivingly big. The only time I could find a hat at the store a size eight where they were having like a bargain sale where it's just like these big cardboard boxes filled with hats that they can and I was like, it's all oh no, hey, I was like, oh, it's all size eight's in here, so I could pick from anyone I wanted because they fit nobody else. But since I lost weight, I'm now like a seven and three quarters, so like a step down from that.

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Speaker 2: Your head is so large that I do fear for one.

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Speaker 1: Whenever we go somewhere and they're selling hats and it's like one size fits all, I'm like, no it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: You're like, let me test that.

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Speaker 1: I'm on that last dot on the thing on the snap back, and it's like yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you're like, hey, you have a cool hat. Can I borrow it? And I'm like no, it's never gonna fit my tiny little head again.

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Speaker 1: From the Nashville Podcast Network. This is movie Mikes, movie podcasts. All right, we'll get into our movies in the month. Now for October. You kick us off. Best movie you saw in October in your opinion?

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Speaker 2: So easy? We live in time.

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Speaker 1: The sad one, Yeah you were waiting to be sad. I think I felt a little bit different about this movie because everybody was saying how sad it is going to be. Just based on the trailer, you can tell that Florence Pugh is gonna get cancer. You see her, they sit down at the doctor's office. She has hair cut to a scene and she has no hair shaved head. I love that she committed to the shaved head she commits because whenever you didn't see Furriosa with me, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw in my family.

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Speaker 1: We saw it all the same time, different theaters. The thing that I knowing me about that movie is Anya Taylor Joy did not shave her head. She wore like a shaved head wig and it was so distracting to me. And I feel like that also took her out of that role, because if you're not fully committing to it, I don't believe you, And if I don't believe you, I'm not gonna enjoy the movie. But Florence Pugh straight up shaved her head for real.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, I was looking forward to being Sad because it did come out on the weekend that is the anniversary of when my dad passed away when I was younger, So I feel like I needed a cathartic release. I actually couldn't cry as much as I needed to. It was disappointing.

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Speaker 1: Did you cry at all?

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Speaker 2: I teared up, but the tears necessarily like free flow. The girl across the aisle from us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were people fall in there, and then in the bathroom.

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Speaker 2: She's like, I don't know how everyone else is crying.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's because I knew that it was going to be sad, that I had this, maybe this guard up a little bit that I knew what to expect.

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Speaker 2: It was also done in such a way that like it was very just like beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I love the way this movie was done. And I told you afterwards that I almost felt bad even giving it a grade because it just felt like one of those movies that was essential to life. It didn't feel like, oh, here's the beginning of this movie, here's the middle part of this movie. It just flowed like life, like you were getting a peek into these characters, just overwhelmingly sad situation of her dealing with cancer, her trying to find her purpose in life. They have a daughter, and all the things that they wanted to accomplish in life kind of get put on hold. It is just a complex story, taking like what otherwise would just be this really just small slice of life story and making it feel so much bigger and larger. And I think that's because you have Florence Pew and Andrew our Field together who have amazing chemistry.

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Speaker 2: They really do. I'm gonna give it five stars.

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Speaker 1: Five stars. Wow, I'd probably I'd probably go on the four point five out of five because I feel like it's there's nothing that I would change about the movie. I love the way how of course it's called We Live in Time. It would hop around in different timelines, which I think made it way more enjoyable to watch. You would see them from their very beginning of their relationship towards the end of their relationship, the middle. It just kind of jumped around, and I think for somebody with like an add brain, it would be really engaging to watch because you're not just watching a continuous story.

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Speaker 2: I think we all have add at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I blame the Internet.

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Speaker 2: I'm blame the pandemic. Like we just sat at home on our phones. It was like tiny screen, big screen, medium screen. Then it just kind of rewired our brains.

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Speaker 1: It's funny now that even our break from our screen is a screen because we were like, all right, let's put down the phones and watch nice, wholesome television on a bigger screen. Yeah, that's all we do is just look at screen. Easy.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's different because it's not like scrolling, and your eyes aren't like rapidly seeing a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of and it's not a constant like here's fifteen seconds, here's five seconds, here's two seconds exactly. Here's the Costco guys, here's the Oh no, are you on Costco Guide TikTok no.

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Speaker 2: But this weekend my friends were doing a rendition of Costco guys.

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Speaker 1: I've been in Costco Guys TikTok for probably, I don't know, four or five six months.

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Speaker 2: I think the rizzler and the chicken bake ya boom.

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Speaker 1: And I think them jumping the shark was going on, Jimmy fallon. I think that's gonna be the end of it.

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Speaker 2: I do think that was a little excessive because most people don't know who they are.

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Speaker 1: That's such a deep internet thing.

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Speaker 2: That's like, are they even viral? It's like niche viral.

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Speaker 1: It's very it's like, dude, like me eighteen to thirty five virality, and it's weird to be on that national level platform and see people in that audience have no idea what is happening. I also think sometimes that's why SNL isn't as funny to anybody, as funny to most people anymore, is because they will literally take a very specific meme and do an entire skill about it that if you didn't see that meme, you're probably not going to get it. But I think in order to stay relevant, they got to do stuff like that. But that is your best. You recommend it. I recommend it if you need, but.

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Speaker 2: It is sad.

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Speaker 1: It is sad. It does deal with cancer, so if you're not prepared for that, take.

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Speaker 2: Those as a trigger warning because it can be really sad. I just personally needed a sad movie at the moment.

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Speaker 1: I think overall, October was high of highs and then the lows were really low. So the good was really good, but the bad was really bad. There weren't really that many mid movies in October. But my best is going to go to Smile too, And I think it's because I had lower expectations going into this one, and I felt that Smile was kind of boring. There was forty minutes of absolutely nothing, and I feel like they took from that movie made this one so much better by focusing on one character, amping up the horror, really leading more into the R rating. And I think it was because I was thinking, Ah, this is going to be the same thing over again, and I'm going to rag on this movie that I ended up really enjoying it. And I think also with movies like that that have a female perspective, it's just a little bit more fresh of a take.

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Speaker 2: Right now, and I'm a female perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and horror movies like that's where you go, like if you have if you want to see like a strong, powerful woman. Now, I feel like the horror genre just dominates over everything else.

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Speaker 2: So we have to be like chasing away, like running away from things that are trying to get us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you end up killing the thing. All the dudes in horror movies usually die and it's the woman who is the final girl at the end who survives.

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Speaker 2: It's because we've been trained our whole lives to run away from men. That's because we've been trained our whole lives carry pepper spray. Look over your shoulder. We've just've been running away from men for years.

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Speaker 1: When did you get your first thing of pepper spray? College?

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Speaker 2: Probably high school and I started driving high school. You know pe paw? Yeah, pe paw is like clip that pepper spray to your keychain.

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Speaker 1: On that same note, the worst of October, Oh, I guess I gotta rate Smile. I stand by my four out of five rating. I think once it goes to streaming, if you didn't see it in theaters, you'll enjoy it at home. You're worst for October.

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Speaker 2: Joker terrible, hated it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you never even got invested in this movie whatsoever. Where I found parts of it that I enjoyed. No, there was like little pockets of it that I was like, Okay, now we're getting good. You were just disconnected the entire time.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even take out my movie candy because it was not worth wasting my expensive Swedish candy on this film.

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Speaker 1: Dang, that is the worst. You can't even snack dr No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Worth my snack. I was like, I should save this for a movie that I'm enjoying. So I just took out my phone, turned on the brightness and scrolled. I don't worry. I'm not an a hole like I turn it down and no one can see me.

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Speaker 1: But I was.

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Speaker 2: I don't think my attention was ever kept during this film.

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Speaker 1: I'll also say at the regal we go to in the recliner seats, you really can't see the person's cell phone, like behind you or next to you if you turn down the brightness. And I also put it on like the night mode where it changed everything black.

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Speaker 2: I just keep mine on night mode. I know that's kind of psychotic of.

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Speaker 1: Me all the time.

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Speaker 2: I have mine on dark mode.

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Speaker 1: You know that I haven't noticed. I didn't know that you do. I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like my notes background is, oh my texts.

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Speaker 1: I guess I didn't realize that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it better. It doesn't hurt my eyes as much.

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Speaker 1: I'll do it in the movie because I'll occasionally make a note.

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Speaker 2: On occasionally you're making notes during every film we see.

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Speaker 1: I make a lot of notes because I want to remember it.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes and thirty two seconds this happened.

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Speaker 1: I do I time every single I know, right when we start, I hit the stop. I know because the time online is never right. It includes the credits, and sometimes even that's off. I have to know for sure.

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Speaker 2: I got bored.

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Speaker 1: Was it the singing for you or is it the story? Or was it everything? Listen or is it Lady Gaga?

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Speaker 2: Big fan of Lady Gaga. We have to stop making every movie she's in a musical. Listen. I love her, love her music, love her makeup line, she does great things. We got to stop just period. It was. It wasn't even original songs, because I don't mind a musical. I love Broadway.

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Speaker 1: It was a jukebox musical.

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Speaker 2: I just am kind of also over Walking Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, because of Napoleon No, I just feel like it's kind of a douche maybe interesting. I mean, for a while he was one of my favorite actors. I just feel like he hasn't done a movie recently that I've really enjoyed him in.

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Speaker 2: I also hated the First Joker because I was so physically stressed, and.

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Speaker 1: You thought this one was going to be as stressful.

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Speaker 2: I think I actually would have rather been that stressed again.

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Speaker 1: And I wish it would have been that, and I told you, like, hey, good thing is it's not gonna be that dark.

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Speaker 2: But then we got this I think I would have preferred darkness yeah over singing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't mind so much the music. It just felt like the Joker character was a complete departure from what he was in Part one. And I think the director, Todd Phillips almost hated what he created with the first one that people were I think he didn't expect people to react to the Joker the way they did and kind of idolize them in a way, and I think that kind of made him upset that he wanted to tell people like, Oh, this I've created that's been like this beacon now for this type of person. I wanted to completely destroy that and derail this character and make them completely unrecognizable. So what we got was not the Joker that we were expecting from the first one, and I think that's what I hated most because it didn't feel like that. It felt like a slap in the face to me. And then you throw in the music and singing, and it commits to that so much that I still think that he made the movie he intended to make, but it was not what anybody wanted. It was not I feel like if there was a movie we were gonna walk out of this year, that probably would have been close to one.

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to walk out of that.

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Speaker 1: Because it was pretty long too. The only thing it had going for it was that it looked good. I thought the cinematography was still great.

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Speaker 2: If that's enough to redeem a two.

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Speaker 1: Hours, it's really not. But that was the only thing. I was like, Oh, at least that shot looked cool. Aside from that, there was very few things to be excited about.

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Speaker 2: I honestly should have just gone to see whatever else they were screening and then been like, text me when you're done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just on into another movie.

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Speaker 1: You can do that. He cares.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: For my worst of October, I'm going with a streaming movie. It is Wolf's with George Clooney and Brad Pitt.

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Speaker 2: I forgot.

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Speaker 1: We watched it. It was it was bad. It was so bad, and so I slipped my mind because the entire I would say thirty to forty minutes of this movie, of how it starts, was all covered in the two and a half minute trailer, like the whole like intro, it took thirty minutes forty minutes to get there and you already he's getting because it was in that two and a half minute trailer. So what they are is there are people who are called in after either somebody commits a murder. They they're there to clean up the scene. So they both arrived to the scene, like hey, how did you get here? How did you get here? And then they have to like work together, and it's the whole like two type A dudes, macho dudes who have to work together type scenario. Then there's another guy involved. It was just so lackluster and I feel like both of them, at the level that they are, were just like, Hey, let's screw around and make millions by putting out this crappy movie and crazy that this movie is getting a sequel on Apple What yeah, like before it even came out that it's like wolfers, wolfies.

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Speaker 2: Wolf Wolves, but wolfs Now we're going wolves.

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Speaker 1: And it's weird because they even pulled it from theaters. It was supposed to come out in theaters.

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Speaker 2: We saw the trailer like multiple times and they're like, that doesn't look.

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Speaker 1: Bad coming those theaters in October. And then they were like testing it out and realize people aren't really liking this, let's put it straight to streaming. And I feel like Apple just isn't quite there when it comes to their original movies, and this was not a step in a good direction. Ones I would say, ye, handful Cherry was good.

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Speaker 2: Justin timber like and you know, Palmer Palmer was good. If it's one no, Wolf's this one word that doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Hold Joshi real smooth was good.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was so good.

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Speaker 1: Killers are the Flower Moon?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's Apple. But theaters thinking.

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Speaker 1: Like straight Apple, I mean that's pretty much it. Then you have all those Tom Hanks movies that we were talking about earlier that were very good. You have a lot of like random action comedy like the Mark Wahlberg family movie, the one with Chris Sevens and Onto the Ottomus. It's just like, what what even is that they have no identity whatsoever. They're just like, hey, let's hire a list actors, give them a lot of money, have a really crappy script and random director and throw it on the service. Yeah, I'd rather probably watch a TV show they have.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we really need to get into Slow Horses. I've been seeing it.

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Speaker 1: I've seen so much about that show.

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Speaker 2: I saw it's a book. I saw it at the airport, so we really got to get into that one.

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Speaker 1: And Gary Oldman is a great actor, like character actor, one of the best. While we're on that though about gangs, before we get to our TV picks, the other movies we saw this month mentioned Joker two. I gave that one to two out of five. Wolves. I gave it one point five out of five. It's What's Inside was surprisingly a good Netflix original horror movie, which is why you didn't watch it with me.

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Speaker 2: Don't remember that one.

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Speaker 1: It's where they play this game and they all switch bodies. Would you would you play that game? Somebody bought a contraption, was like, all right, you put these things on and you're gonna change bodies with somebody in the room, and then you have to figure out who you who got your body? Like, wouldn't it be weird to see you outside of you? Like you see yourself walk by and you're like, that's me.

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Speaker 2: That would be weird. I feel like people with a twins see that though.

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Speaker 1: A good point twins. It's Witchcraft Smile two four out of five. We Live in Time I give it a four point five out of five. I also watch Brothers on Amazon, which was okay, I forgot his name. Brothers on Amazon was not good. Game of Thrones, guy, I can remember Peter Dinklish and Josh Brolin is who I was trying to remember. But they played brothers.

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Speaker 2: Who Oh, they played brothers in a movie aptly titled.

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Speaker 1: Brothers Brothers and they're like criminals and it's one of them. One of them goes to prison. Oh my bead really looked a close to each other. One of them goes to prison for committing a crime. One of them stays out, cleans his life up. Other one gets out and they go back to a life of crime. It kind of felt like a two thousands bad comedy. Did you ever watch Funny? No? Not really. Did you ever watch My Name is Earl?

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Speaker 2: You rewatched that? Yeah? Last year? No? I hate that show. I would rather you watch The Simpsons, I think than My Name is Earl.

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Speaker 1: I love My Name is Earl. And it felt like it was doing on my Name is Earl impression the entire time, and I was like, man, I'm just gonna go watch My Name is Earl. Randy also watched Women at the Hour on Netflix. I was close to getting my best of the month.

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Speaker 2: So good, that's my runner up.

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Speaker 1: And that was when I had you had more knowledge about going into it than I did. I just knew it was Anna Kendrick's debut as a director, and I was like, I'm in.

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Speaker 2: And then It's a freaky story.

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Speaker 1: Started immediately and I was like, this is great. So Netflix rarely has great movies these days. That's not true, hip Man, I said rarely.

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Speaker 2: It also wasn't a Netflix original that I required it.

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Speaker 1: That is a good point, and I think most people can't make that distinct distinction. Is there are Netflix originals that they fund and it's like their studio Netflix Banner.

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Speaker 2: And Man was one of those, And.

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Speaker 1: Then there are some that they acquire the rights where somebody else has made it and they're like, we want to buy the rights to this and put it on Netflix. That is also what happened with It's What's Inside that I mentioned earlier. And then there are other movies that they just put on their service that they buy, like the rights to, but either they came out initially in theaters and another studio owns them and they're just like, Okay, we want to have this on our service for like four months and it'd be on Netflix. Then later it goes to Hulu. And I think some people can't even distinguish that of say like whenever Joker goes on, it usually goes on to Max, but say it eventually makes its way to Netflix, people just be be like, oh, Joker Too was a Netflix movie. So I think it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. But when it comes to like original Netflix.

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Speaker 2: Netflix originals, the Christmas ones are coming out with which we will be watching, you will be watching and reviewing. Yeah, there's one with Chad mclmurray that looks so bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe it's still working so.

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Speaker 2: Bad, But they're the one with Lindsay Lohan actually looks pretty good.

00:21:06
Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan's back, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It looks cute. But also I will say Anna Kendrick donated all the money she made from Netflix acquiring that movie to several like Domestic Violence, Shelters to Rain, which I thought was really cool, and I saw a clip of her and she was like, I just felt really gross, like profiting off this movie because she was like, you don't make any money making the movie, and she's like, we made money when it was acquired and she was like, I was like, oh, I'm making a profit and I feel gross making a profit from this, which I thought was really cool that she donated it.

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Speaker 1: Which is the point I made when reading that movie last week that I always have this weird thing about true crime stuff because it feels like icky to get into and like to take it in. Is entertainment when it's like real people, and well, especially when like the families that the people were still alive.

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Speaker 2: But it was interesting when it's a story that you like didn't know.

00:21:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you learn stuff and you're like, man, it sucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other one that almost made my worst of the month was Venom three. Oh my god, I forgot you saw that you were gonna put that one as your worst over Joker. I feel like you had a worst time in that one because it just felt more like a mockery of everything.

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Speaker 2: I actually think I enjoyed that more than Joker because it was shorter.

00:22:13
Speaker 1: Because eh, and it's a little bit more turned your brain off. We didn't expect anything from it.

00:22:17
Speaker 2: I expected nothing. I was trying to stay up till midnight to pick a friend up from the airport, so I was like honestly, I'm here somewhere outside of the house. I can't fall asleep. That was really but I did enjoy Venom two, so I kind of expected to like it a little bit more.

00:22:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like one, and two and three was just like it gave up.

00:22:32
Speaker 2: I also forgot weird. The only movies I remember we saw this month were Joker, We Live in Time.

00:22:36
Speaker 1: And Woman of the Hour your TV show.

00:22:39
Speaker 2: I just realized I don't have one.

00:22:41
Speaker 1: I don't really. Yeah, I don't think we've really been finishing shows right now.

00:22:43
Speaker 2: The Housewives of Salt Lake City is great this season, Like.

00:22:46
Speaker 1: We're watching I'm Loving Penguin, but we're not done with it yet. There's one episode that just came out that we haven't seen, that's the finale, and then aside from that, we're kind of watching only Murders. We haven't quite finished that yet. Episodes left, and the show I'm kind of giving up on his Agatha all along. Like I even watched an episode without you after you dipped out, and there's just nothing, and you were like, I'm dipping out. There's just nothing that's making me gravitate towards that story. Even though some people are loving it, saying it's one of the best Marvel Original shows. I just can't get into it. There's just nothing there.

00:23:18
Speaker 2: I've also been ditching you to watch The Housewives lately. There's three franchises Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. There's more. There's one on Sunday. But I'm Tuesday night is New York, Wednesday night is Salt Lake, Thursday's Orange County. Orange County did just wrap up. Then Beverly Hills starts next month. I love the Housewives. I'm just kind of been ditching you and I get in bed and I light a candle in watch house.

00:23:36
Speaker 1: That's a lot of franchise. I couldn't keep up with.

00:23:38
Speaker 2: That, but yeah, Salt Lake is my best one.

00:23:40
Speaker 1: What about your book?

00:23:41
Speaker 2: The Third Gilmore Girl by Kelly Bishop.

00:23:44
Speaker 1: Oh, they're hopping back into TV Gilmore Girl.

00:23:46
Speaker 2: No. So she played Emily Gilmour, the Grandma, and and it was my book club book of the Month. And I'm not only an audiobook person simply because I already have too many podcasts to listen to. And when I read, I like silence, it's kind of my my brain off. But she narrates it and reads it, and I love Kelly Bishop. She's a super interesting life story, like her whole career before you More girls. It's really good. It is free if you have Spotify Premium, you like fifteen hours of audiobook a month, and so if there's ever an audiobook on Spotify and you have a premium account, you can listen to it for free. So I listened to it there.

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Speaker 1: I've always been meeting to listen to an audiobook because I am notorious for not finishing books that you are. But I feel like I'm good at listening to podcasts all the way through. I feel like if I had an audiobook, I could probably at least get through something or maybe start reading it. And if I'm going to give up on it, off to the audiobook. Yeah, I'm not really reading anything right now. I've been trying to find here's my nerd out moment of the week, that is this entire podcast. Anyway, I've been trying to find an issue of Absolute Batman and it's been sold out for months, Like a month can.

00:24:51
Speaker 2: Be nerdier than what you bought at Costco.

00:24:53
Speaker 1: This weekend, Oh, I got an adult well not even adult snuggie. I got a spider Man snuggy that's meant for kids, but since the oversized, if it's me.

00:25:01
Speaker 2: I showed it to people this weekend that I was with and someone said, we're Halloween costumes on sale and I was like, no, he's just that's just what he likes. And then you found a dragon Ball shirt I.

00:25:14
Speaker 1: Did Old Navy I leave for a week and I also got this at Old Navy.

00:25:17
Speaker 2: I left for a weekend, and you nerd it out hard.

00:25:20
Speaker 1: I went to Costco and I had just seen on TikTok that they were selling Spider Man snuggies and I was like, that looks amazing and it's only twenty dollars. So I went to Costco. First thing I went to grab was the Spider Man snuggie and then I got home. I put it on. The arms are a little tight because it is meant for a child.

00:25:36
Speaker 2: I actually didn't know that I could have fleff that part.

00:25:39
Speaker 1: But other than that, if fit's good, it's warm, it's gonna be my hanging out on the couch like you're coming in the comfort blanket. While watching the Cowboys suck you.

00:25:48
Speaker 2: Were like, it was only twenty dollars something I don't care. Mainly because I had just placed the Sephora sale order.

00:25:54
Speaker 1: I twenty bucks ave bad to keep me warm.

00:25:56
Speaker 2: That's not what I spent at Sepaus. You can go get quite a few snuggies.

00:26:00
Speaker 1: The adult one. I think we're twenty bucks as well, but they were so boring. Why do you think it's so boring when you become an adult?

00:26:05
Speaker 2: It's true.

00:26:05
Speaker 1: It was like a standard gray one and a blue one, Like I want the Spider Man one, I want the logo in my back, I want.

00:26:11
Speaker 2: The Honestly, adults need more fun. Yeah, because it's like you grow up and it's just like a harsh reality. You got bills to pay, You gotta work at least forty hours a week.

00:26:20
Speaker 1: Like this whole room is me regressing to dealing with like adult life. Like I just want to go in here and enjoy things and see things that remind me of like just comforting times. And it doesn't hurt anybody exactly, and it's bright and colorful, and I'll just tell myself that.

00:26:36
Speaker 2: I love that you found nerdy things that you enjoy. I think it's great. Whatever brings you joy and makes you happy.

00:26:43
Speaker 1: Besides me, as long as they're plastic and or hanging on the wall. We're all good here, all right? Anything else you want to say before we go?

00:26:51
Speaker 2: I think I thought of something, but I forgot. Okay, to be fair, I was in the office today, so I am tired.

00:26:56
Speaker 1: I am also tired. I just had a coffee at about five.

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Speaker 2: I had a lot of caffeine today. There's a Starbucks in the lobby. I hit that up every Tuesday morning before I even go to my office. I was like park mobile order and they had Christmas cups for the tall and the grandees, and I was like, you know what, like a Christmas cup? I mean, Christmas Cup's really gonna cheer me up. They hand me my Vini plain ass white cup. You can cut that out if you need to. I did just curse.

00:27:22
Speaker 1: It's ever. It's like the adult situation, like everything has to be boring exactly.

00:27:26
Speaker 2: I really just wanted some joy. Should we go put the Christmas tree up?

00:27:30
Speaker 1: I think it's too early. I feel like it's too early.

00:27:32
Speaker 2: We put up on November first last year.

00:27:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it was too early. I'm in that weird mode of like I'm not ready for it yet.

00:27:39
Speaker 2: You can what about next week?

00:27:40
Speaker 1: Next week is good? This week still feels a little bit too early.

00:27:43
Speaker 2: It's so hot.

00:27:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it. It's still warm here. I need a little bit of coal, like the leaves have fallen.

00:27:48
Speaker 2: It's like forty in Denver this week and it was freezing.

00:27:51
Speaker 1: But I need some cooler weather. And I think next week feels a little bit closer to Thanksgiving. And I'm good with.

00:27:55
Speaker 2: It, okay, Or I'll just do it one day while you're at work.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, we'll come back and boiler free review of Here, Let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review of Here. What a boring title, but it stars Tom Hanks, Robin Wright aka Forest Gump, and Jenny, directed by Robert Zemeckis, who is the original director of Forrest Gump. Although him and Tom Hanks have worked together a lot over the years, some good movies, some not so good movies, it is the first time all three of them have been back together in thirty years. So I would like to say there was some hype around that idea of like, oh, it's a Forest Gump reunion. There really wasn't much hype going into this movie. The biggest thing about it is that the entire movie takes place in one shot. It all is events that happen over one hundred years to different people that inhabit this one little piece of land. It goes from way back in the dinosaur times to like Revolution times two in between all the way through the sixties, seventies until today. It is all this one shot little piece of land, all of the different changes that it goes through, the house that goes up, the different people that live in the house, and really there is no overarching plot. It is just the story about life all these people, primarily focusing on Tom Hanks's character and Robin Wright's character. You learn about Tom Hanks from before he was born. You get the story of his parents, You get the story of how him and Robin Wright's character meet and how their entire life unfolds in this one house, in this one living room. So how do they do that? I am somebody who enjoys a movie that takes place entirely in one location. There've been movies recently, like The Guilty. There's a lot of movies that just take place in one location. You can make it work, you can make it entertaining. The different thing about this one is It's just one shot. It is, essentially, although I bet they use a lot of green screen, and I kind of tell how they did this, but essentially, to the viewer, it is one shot camera on a tripod, and that tripod never ever moves. So not only is it just one location, it is just one shot, and it really unfolds more like a play. If you go see a play in the theater, usually just get one set. Maybe they move things around, but you have one vantage point throughout that entire play. You can make it entertaining. And that is the one novel thing about this movie. But it was so painfully average that I found myself getting bored throughout this movie. And it's not that I'm opposed to movie. That's just a slice of life movie where there's no big outcome, there's no big conflict. You can make a good slice of life movie really hard to do in one location and just one shot. But there were a lot of factors that really kept me from feeling any emotion, starting from the very beginning, where it is Tom Hanks much older, even older than he is now, within his sixties now, and it's him going back to this house setting up a couple chairs, and reliving everything in his head, and then for like the next thirty almost forty minutes, you don't see Tom Hanks again. And I think it's because this movie was trying to be a little bit more prolific than it actually was. If it would have just focused on his family's life, I think it would have been a much better movie. But trying to weave in stuff from back in the dinosaur age, back before this country was America, even going into the future and focusing on things in the pandemic and twenty twenty life, it just felt like it was trying to say a lot of things that really had no way to it. It was just throwing things in there for no apparent reason. There were backstories to characters that inhabited this place that never really went anywhere, and you didn't really take away, as the viewer, any kind of emotional impact. It just kind of felt like filler, And I think Roberts Imcas probably did that because it's like, Okay, maybe there isn't enough story to just tell Tom Hanks and his family story. Let's throw in some other stuff that I kind of have on the back burner here, shove it down. The audience's faces and really cram it in those first thirty and forty minutes where you're wondering, when is Tom Hanks gonna show up? When are you gonna get to the meat of this story, And by the time it really ramps up and you see all that unfold, you're kind of already bored by it. You're not really invested in it because it hasn't really won you over. And it's not that sad things don't happen in this movie. There are, but I think it's because the method of storytelling. Also, the de aging stuff isn't quite there yet. There are a lot of things that keep you from feeling anything, and whenever it does really try to go out on that emotional note, by the end of it, you're just kind of over it. I think towards the back half of the movie, I did start to think, Okay, there was actually a little something here. I started to feel something, and then the movie was over. And I think it does go back to the d aging technology. Seeing Tom Hanks and Robin Wright as teenagers, it felt like I was watching video game characters act with one another, and I think that really keeps you from really feeling anything because it doesn't even feel like they are on screen and in a world right now where we're talking about, you know, AI replacing actors. It just felt too much AI to meet. And I'm not opposed to the use of AI to make our lives easier. I embrace it. I love it. I want to learn about it. I think I do have an issue, however, whenever you start using AI in art, because say an actor passes away and before they die, they say, hey, I want to go in record all these things, motion capture my face, so when I die, to my estate you can license out, Hey, put me in a movie, and my estate gets paid. You set up your family for a life. Seems nice As an actor, if you could have that happen, I feel like there's only a handful of actors who could do that, that people would actually even watch a movie with their AI presence after they pass away. But I think you start to get into some murky area. And I know some studios are probably already doing that without us even realizing it. With reshoots, all right, we need to have somebody back. We can't get him back on the lot. Let's AI. They've done it before. But I think because of that, I found myself feeling very disconnected from any of their performances. It just felt very artificial to me and very cold and out of anybody's performance. I really became more invested in Paul Bettany's character, who plays Tom Hanks's dad, because he wasn't using any AI and I felt like he had the best story out of anybody in here. Tom Hanks's character arc felt very cliche to me, and I didn't really buy into him and Robin Wright's love story in this movie. The only real lesson that I kind of took from this movie that I felt anything towards was Tom Hanks's character was very hesitant about things. He was worried about things like taxes that kept him from living life. Anytime his wife brought up, hey, we should get our own house. We should get out of here and not live with your parents anymore, he was always worried about how they were going to pay for it. He was worried about making money. In his early years, he wanted to be an artist. He had to give that up in order to get a more stable job, and it kind of kept going back to that. Of all the things his character went through, I just kind of left thinking, oh, there's never really a good time to do anything. And I think it made me look into my life right now. Me and Kelsey have always talked about having kids. We will have kids eventually, but there's always that decision to be made, and when you talk to other people who have had kids, they tell you the same thing. There's never a right time. And I think for me, being over analytical trying to be responsible with finances, I always think there's gonna be a right time on the books on paper where Kelsey and I will be set up and this is the perfect time to have kids. But I know there's not gonna be the perfect time, and all the things I think about are the reasons not to have kids because it isn't the good time. I kind of saw myself a little bit in this character, although he goes way extreme, way way way extreme, but it did make me think about that a little bit of how anything in life that is worth having you're gonna have to work for it, and it's gonna make you uncomfortable if you aren't doing things that make you uncomfortable and think, oh, I don't know if I should be doing this. This isn't the safe thing to do. If you aren't doing those things in life, you're not going to be living life. Anything I've had that is worthy of me having, I've had to work for, and I've had to feel uncomfortable for, and I've had to go in with a lot of uncertainty, thinking, Man, if this fails, what am I gonna do? And sometimes I have failed a lot of times. I've failed so many jobs I've missed out on before I got the job. I have now so many jobs. You know how many relationships I didn't have until I have the one I have now that is the one that was meant for me. It's just that is the nature of life. But if I kept myself from even trying those things, I'd be in a terrible position. So the overall message that I took away from it is there's never the right time, and you can't keep putting things off until the right time is otherwise life is going to go right before your eyes and you're going to regret the things that you didn't do more than the things that you did do. And that is exactly what I look back on right now and think, out of all the decisions I made in my life, if I ever regretted anything. It was not doing something, not going to a party, not going to an event, not going out, not hanging out with friends, not hanging out with family. I never regret a moment that I actually made a decision to go out and do things. Sometimes I think, ah, well that was kind of a waste of time, but I'm still glad I did it. I have a story. But if I look back on all my biggest regrets, it is the things that I didn't do. Man, maybe this movie did teach me a little more than I thought, but I would have learned that anyway. I didn't need to watch an hour and forty plus minute movie to realize that I already knew that. In your thirties, you already know that, and you could tell your teenage or twenty year old self that without having seen this movie. So what I think happened here is the movie really sold its sizzle more than anything, because I was just more curious of how are they even going to make this work? And if you take that element out of this movie, it is such just an average movie that really has no sparkle, that really has no emotional raw to it, especially when it has one of the best American actors of all time, reuniting with Robin Wright and reuniting with Roberts a mechis you just think there was gonna be something more. And if you look at the amount of money this movie made on its opening weekend. It's opening weekend five million dollars on over two thousand screens with Tom Hanks attached to it, that is wild. It got beat out by Venom on its second week in its opening week, which proves to you there was no real hype around this movie. I do think there is an audience for it, however, because surprisingly the theater I went to was a pack showing. I got like the very last seat on the end row. It was one of those times where I walk into the theater and somebody thinks I'm not gonna take that seat because I know how to time it out where I don't have to watch the previews. I go in right as they're ending so I can sit in my seat and then the opening credits role and I can enjoy the movie. Somebody had all their stuff in my seat. I'm like, Ah, that's my seat. I reserve that seat. Shout out the Regal Unlimited. You though they don't pay me to say that, but the entire theater was full. I did notice it was an older audience. I'd say the average age in the theater was probably fifty five. I could even be convinced it was sixty, and everybody in the theater seemed to enjoy it. So I do think probably in that age range is probably more who this movie is for. Because I wouldn't even classify it as a bad movie. There's just not much to it. So I would say, if you are a fan of Tom Hanks and we're curious by the trailer, curious by the premise, and from what I've told you about it, I would say it's probably worthy once it goes to streaming, and if you don't, I would say, if you don't enjoy it after thirty minutes, don't waste your time on the rest of it. But if you do that, you won't even get much of Tom Hanks. So I would say, watch half of it when it goes to streaming, and if you don't like the first half, maybe just skip to the end because that's where the real story is. Like you get you kind of get all that other stuff out of the way, and then get to the real story at the end. So I feel like this movie would have benefited from taking away the one shot and still focusing entirely on the house. Personify the house a little bit more, because I would have been curious to see some other rooms. So for a movie with no real emotion, the acting felt very fragmented. Overall. The novelty wear it off pretty quickly. They did this thing where they placed like these little boxes on the screen just to add a little something else, and it would kind of give you flashes into other time periods where things were happening in this exact same spot. It also kind of helped to identify the timeline of when things were happening by showing you real world events that kind of helped you place things in your mind. But even with that, I found that distracting and kind of annoying. So overall, the movie, like I said, was painfully average. It gets a painfully average score. I give here two point five out of five living rooms. It's time to head down to movie. Mike trailor Paul. I heard the premise or this new horror movie called Presence, and I knew immediately that I was going to love this movie. I haven't even seen it yet, just based on the trailer, based on what this movie is about, I already put it in my list for next year because it comes out on January twenty fourth. I love me a horror movie in January. Great way to kick off the year. Normally in that month we get a lot of just random movies. Let's talk about last week. Got a comedy coming out in January, But a horror coming out in January is always exciting to me. Last year, Megan came out in January right at the beginning of the year and was a smash hit, went totally viral. If you can put out a good horror movie in January, it's a good place to put it. Because we're coming out of the holidays. We're all just Christmas movie out. We want to watch something scary at a time we're really not supposed to watch something scary. Who says January isn't for horror, I don't. I think we associate the month of late September October with Halloween so much when it comes to movies that we need to diversify them and put them out whenever it makes sense. And that's the difference between Christmas movies and horror movies is you can only put out Christmas movies in November and December and have people care about them. A horror movie you can put it out whenever and people will be invested in it. So it is the ultimate holiday movie. But what Presence is about. It turns the haunted house subgenre in horror upside down because it tells the story from the perspective of the dark entity living inside the house instead of the perspective from the humans. If you know me, my favorite subgenre in horror is the haunted house subgenre. My favorite in the category happen to be at the Conjuring, Evil Dead, Paranormal Activity Sinister. I love movies where the house itself is haunted and it freaks all the humans out. And it's not that this hasn't been done or attempted before. It is the stylele that this is being done that makes this more exciting. Steven Sodenberg is the director. He's done movies like Aaron Brockovich, Magic Mike the Ocean's Movies, has a very diverse portfolio, so I think with a great director. By the looks of this trailer, it looks like a high budget low budget movie, because the feel of it just has this different perspective that I've never really seen in just the trailer before, because they use a lot of drone shots and it feels like you, as the viewer, are hovering like a ghost floating through this house. And I haven't really seen drone shots utilize this way before because oftentimes it's used in action very quick cuts, you know, maybe cutting through traffic, going all the way up a building. But to scale it back and have it just kind of moving slowly through the house, creeping up on all these humans living here, not knowing there's this dark entity. Oh man, it looks so good. So before I get into more about my already deep love for presence, here's just a little bit of the trailer.

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Speaker 2: What's it like? What's what like? I never heard anybody die? Scary? And it goes on, what do you mean? The world cracks apart and you fall into this hole and the sides are mud and you can't get up, and you wonder where they are and you wonder what it would be like if you were there.

00:44:28
Speaker 1: Too, And that's where the trailer really amplifies. See the house rumbling. You don't really see how the dark entity is going to approach the humans just yet, but I imagine it has to be pretty cool. The movie stars Chris Sullivan, who I primarily know from This is Us, and Lucy Lou, and I can't remember the last great Lucy Lou movie I saw. She was huge in the two thousands with movies like Charlie's Angels Killed Bill. And the only other thing I can think of recently that I've seen her in was the Red One trailer. That is, that holiday Christmas movie with the Rock and Chris Evans coming out later this year. And I would hate to dog on this movie more, mainly because people already called me out for giving this movie such a hard time. Well, let me go into this now, because I gave my hear review earlier. When I went to go see that movie, I was walking down the escalator at my regal, which is two stories and the theater I was in within the lower story. And what do I see immediately at the end of the escalator this giant cardboard cutout for Red One. I see the Rock space, I see Lucy Lew's face, I see Chris Evans face, I see that giant, ridiculous polar bear assaulting my eyes. As I'm coming down this escalator. I get off the escalator, and what do I see At the end of that hallway as I'm going to the bathroom, I see an employee setting up this giant display for Red One. You know, if you go to the mall and they have it set up to where kids can go take pictures with Santa you have that red carpet that leads the way down and at the very end is Santa Well, they had one of these set up, but at the end of that red carpet was another big display for Red One. I'm like, Okay, clearly that has to be all they're doing, right, No, because to the left of that was a big missing sign. Because the whole premise of Red One is that Santa Claus goes missing, they have to go find them. So next to that display is this big missing sign where it's like, oh, so and so is missing, so like those old school missing signs where you rip the number off. So I've already been assaulted three times with three different displays for the same movie. I go to the bathroom, I use the bathroom, I go to wash my hands, and what has taken over the mirrors in the bathroom. These stick on like sticker plastic things that you can put on mirrors. At the very bottom of all four mirrors in the bathroom is a promo graphic for Red One. And I told you guys when I broke down that trailer that it felt like they are going to market the crap out of this movie and put it everywhere, and the only thing that they are hoping on is can we just get this out and everybody knows that it's coming out, force it down your throat, so you go watch this, And that is what happened. I had almost five different advertisements for this movie just walking to my movie, not even mentioning that the trailer was also running before here. So I know this wasn't a part two of me dogging on Red One. And shout out to Lucy Loo for probably doing that movie to secure the bag and then doing a movie like Presence that is probably a lot more fun for her to work on and going to look better on her resume. But man, I just can't believe how much they are spending on marketing that movie that has already cost two hundred and fifty million. I would have to guess maybe not overall at the box office, but I think compared to the budget size, I think Presence will probably make more based on its budget to box office ratio. But Presence will focus on this one family finding out that they have a ghost in their home, and we're gonna find out how scary it is to see this story unfold from the perspective of the ghost. Again. This movie is coming out on January twenty fourth. I'll definitely be checking it out over Red one.

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Speaker 3: And that was this week's.

00:48:35
Speaker 2: Edition of Movie Li Framer par and.

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Speaker 1: That is gonna do it for another episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta give my listeners shout out of the week. This week, I'm going over to my Instagram dms and listeners shout out ghost to Silas, who sent me a screenshot listening to last week's episode talking about my Desert Island movie bracket. Gave me a couple of his picks. He said, comedy, either Hangover or Hitch, so I had one of those in my bracket as well. You know, I don't really love Hitch that much, and the two thousands had some really great rom coms, but I probably lean more towards the raunchier rom coms. If I'm going for a rom com more on the level of Hitch, I'll probably go into my nineties rom coms. Silas also gave me his drama pick and said The Departed. That is a movie I have not seen in quite a while. I remember it was so massive when it came out back in two thousand and six. That is one I need to go back and watch and dive more into some Scorsese filmography. So thank you Silas for sharing your movie picks with me. Thanks to everybody who also submitted your picks on Facebook and Twitter. I always love it when you interact with the podcast. And until next time, go out and watch good movies and I will talk to you later.