#604 - Caitlin and Bobby talk Birth and Baby in Special Q+A

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Bobby and Caitlyn Show. The Caitlyn and Bobby Show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna answer questions because you don't trust me to just run this normally. What do you mean you don't trust me just bring up stuff to talk about?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I trust you.

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Speaker 3: You said ask and we'll answer questions. No, because I thought I thought you were just gonna ask me questions off the top of your head. Will that be part of it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I don't have some posters whenever you want. I have a Weezer poster.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's what that is.

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Speaker 2: I have a green Weezer poster, Arkansas poster up and the up there have a Saved by the Bell poster.

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Speaker 1: They're going to another studio on the wall.

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Speaker 4: God, I was worried.

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Speaker 1: That's what those posters are.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm just gonna go oh raw dog from the questions all right, Number one, what's the best thing about being parents? This is from Jill Korn. Jil Corn, you go first. What's the best thing about you?

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Speaker 4: First?

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Speaker 1: The best thing about being parents? I think that.

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Speaker 2: It's bizarre that there's a human that's created from two people, and I think a lot of that novelty wears off quickly with folks when they have a kid, because there's no time to think about that novelty. There's not a lot of time to invest in thinking about how crazy it is that sperm and eggs make a child. Whenever you are always paying attention to making sure the kid is alive. It's when I think back, there's a reason that poor people don't have great existential thoughts, you know why, because they got to work and they have time to think about existential things.

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Speaker 1: And so I feel the same way about parenting.

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Speaker 2: Is that I think we would be like this is crazy all the time if it wasn't constant focus on attention on the baby. So that's not an answer. The answer is it is definitely fortified the unit. I agree, like us together, us with her, it's a you know, where the bike there's not a kickstand on the side, holds it all up, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: So she's a kickstand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she holds this up. Yeah right now?

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would say that, Okay, Well, what do you think the best thing about being a parent right now? I think is just the immense amount of joy that I get from Billy, from her existence, like I knew I would love her, which it's a whole different type of love I have never felt, but I knew I would love her. I just I don't think I ever thought about the joy that would come with it. And I have so much joy, Like I think I enjoy life more. I find things funnier.

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Speaker 1: No, you find really dumb things funnier.

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Speaker 4: But it's because I'm so joyful, Like I just.

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Speaker 3: Burst with joy every morning, like I can't believe that Billy's here again today every day. So I think the best thing is just having so much joy, so much happiness that comes from her being in the world.

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Speaker 1: Did you not think you would have it?

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Speaker 3: I never thought about joy specifically and having a child. No, not that I didn't think I would have it. I just think it's something I hadn't experienced at this level.

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Speaker 4: Am Am, I not making sense?

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Speaker 1: No, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Okay, has having a baby improved your marriage? This is from Bear Hen. We just came from therapy a second ago and he asked us, Hey, have you guys been doing on time together? And my answer was and you didn't give a reaction in therapy. But I don't know that there was an expected reaction. My answer was, you know, we kind of dedicated this time to getting this early snow globe part of pregnancy. Right, there's a good eight, ten, twelve weeks where I told myself we wouldn't be concerned with our dynamic specifically, like to make sure we have time.

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Speaker 1: We just need to get into a rhythm.

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Speaker 2: And then and I told him, if you asked me this in four weeks, I'll probably have a different answer. But I feel like we're good. Even though I feel like it's made our marriage more, it's more fruitful.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 2: We have a real life fruit now. But I don't think that you and I have done a lot of stuff just together. There's not been really time for it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're together all the time, but we have Billy with us. Yeah, but what was the specific question?

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Speaker 1: Has a major marriage better improved your marriage?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's made us love each other more. We've both talked about that. Do you feel that way?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in a different way for sure.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean, oh, love each other in a different way?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, Like I you know, I obviously and told you many times how much I loved you being my wife. But now that it's watching you be a mom. It's it's a whole different kind of love. It's it's like you pulled the curtain and there's a whole area that you didn't even see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that now.

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Speaker 2: You're like, oh, wow, I didn't even know that area was open to it. It didn't seem like that area was closed, but that you didn't know the area existed to be opened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I would say that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have the same feelings towards you.

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Speaker 3: And also I was talking to Keaton about this, I guess right after Billy was first born, and it was like one of the first pictures I sent her of you and Billy, probably like day two Billy's life. And she responded and she said, doesn't it make you love him more? And I just said, yeah, because you you're not only my husband.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're Billy's dad, and Billy's half of you.

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Speaker 3: And I love this baby and I love seeing you, know you and her, and yeah, it's wild.

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Speaker 4: It's just a new level of love and appreciation that I have for you. For sure.

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Speaker 1: This is from a m reser.

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Speaker 2: What's the biggest surprise to you about being parents and having a newborn? The biggest surprise to me was the damage it does to a woman's body to have a baby. And unless you've actually like been a part of that, I don't think you really know. You'd always i'd heard, you know, women are pregnant, it comes out, but I don't even really know first hand on I know, like first and a half hand. But yeah, the significant damage that it does, and it just makes me any read our healthcare system that there's there's not you can have time off with that getting fire, but it doesn't mean you have to get paid to be fired or to that doesn't mean you have to be paid, right, So like legally you're protected twelve weeks, twenty weeks. I could probably look that up, but it's not. Legally you're guaranteed to be paid, correct, And that's what sucks.

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Speaker 1: Can be fired for it. Yeah, I don't know how women do it.

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Speaker 2: You got to go back to work, yeah, horrible three four weeks after you have a baby.

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Speaker 4: Horrible.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So to me the biggest surprise is really how hard it is I don't even want to say normal, but to get back to feeling healthy again after you have a baby.

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Speaker 1: So and that's not even me, that's just what I've witnessed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess I would copy you and say that. I feel like it's almost unfair because you get to see all the questions and go through and pick them, and you're definitely picking ones that you have answers to. No, you, oh, for sure you have answers to the ones you're picking. So I feel like.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking well.

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Speaker 2: I went first, I went first and talk. You could have thought the whole time I was talking, I.

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Speaker 4: Was, first of all, my brain doesn't work. My brain has lost.

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Speaker 1: What it was that TikTok, I say you five percent gray matter?

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Speaker 3: Five percent gray matter has been reallocated to billy. So I feel like I'm operating on about a third grade level in all areas right now. But I would say the biggest surprise. I don't know why I think surprise of is a negative thing. Surprise could be a positive thing as well. Yeah, my association with the word surprise is only positive. But that's not positive what you just said.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've learned about it. It sucks for you, but it's not a positive surprise. I guess it wasn't negative either, though, I just didn't.

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Speaker 4: Know what pretty negative for the woman the healing process.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say that's a surprise, is just how long it takes to even sort of begin to feel like you're healing. It's a while physically hormonally all I mean, and physically I'm feeling a lot better. Hormonally I'm still all over the place. And I know they say that takes a long time, but I so, I guess that's a surprise, just how intense the hormones can be and the the moods that come with them.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of the same questions.

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Speaker 4: Really okay to just go.

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Speaker 2: Off no, no, I'll ask them, But I'm saying there's a lot of people, For example, will you ever show Billy's face? Congratulations to both of you. There's a lot of that question in here because people don't know what other people are asking. So you can answer that one if you want. No right now, my answer is no. I see that being my answer for as long as I can make.

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Speaker 4: Decisions for Billy.

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Speaker 3: I feel very intensely that as her mom, and I know I'm just speaking as her mom now. Bobby has his own feelings on the matter. Like I, it is my job to protect her, and I feel that this is a way that I should protect her. She can grow up and decide she wants to share her face, and that's fine, but as of right now, for me, it's a no. I think that everyone makes decisions based on their own circumstances, and I don't have no judgment towards anyone who.

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Speaker 4: Is choosing to share their child's face.

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Speaker 3: For our circumstances, I think we've been through things that are pretty gnarly over the past how long we've been together nearly seven years, six and a half, I don't know. I don't even know what you're is, but we've been through some pretty intense things.

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Speaker 4: That we haven't talked about, but just.

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Speaker 3: Know they're intense and they sucked, and we're over those and that was really hard on both of us and extremely hard on me for years. And I can't imagine putting Billy in a position to where she would ever have to go through something like that. So I know that that has certainly guided my decision, but I am saying no, we will not show her face as of right now. We're always able to change our minds, I know that, but I feel very strongly right now that I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: Show her face.

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Speaker 1: Who does Billy resemble the most? Right now?

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Speaker 4: Ooh, right now? I don't know. She's starting to look a lot like my baby pictures.

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Speaker 3: In the beginning, when she first was born, I would say she resembled you quite a bit. And now I'm definitely seeing more of myself and her.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, I.

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Speaker 1: Think a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You're begging to see more of yourself in her. I think there are parts of her face that's yours. Okay, then I'm not begging if her nose is your baby nose. You've tried to do the baby picture thing to me, and I'm like, I don't know, but I don't really see you and her right now? Okay do you You don't have to take shots.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a shot.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I'm not one of those moms. It's like, don't tell me that my baby looks like her dad. I don't care about that, but I mean she did. I would prefer her not to look like me.

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Speaker 4: Or do you still think she looks a lot like you right now?

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Speaker 1: More so than you right now? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Face shape eyes say shape, yeah, yeah, she's a.

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Speaker 4: Chunk in her face. Yep, yeah, she i don't know, it's hard.

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Speaker 3: She definitely has certain angles where she looks a lot like you, and I think she has angles where she looks like me. And I think it was maybe it was Eddie that said to us, like, whoever knows us better, whoever knows you better, will think she looks like you, and whoever knows me better, we'll think she looks like me. And I think that that's been pretty true. If it's like my friends that I send pictures of her too, they'll say that they think she looks like me. However, some of your people have crossed over into my camp, like Eddie's wife thinks she looks more like me.

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Speaker 1: I think Eddie's wife's in your camp.

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Speaker 2: Though, if we look at friends, I think Eddie's wife is in your camp.

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Speaker 3: Eddie's and Josie today was like, she's looking I sent her the video I sent you.

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Speaker 4: She's like, she's looking like her mom.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think they need to say that. I'm good, Okay, whatever.

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Speaker 2: How was your first trip away from the baby from ash Harris you?

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Speaker 4: How is your fen away from her?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: Well, we just went to therapy without her. Oh.

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Speaker 4: I think she's talking about Austin.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's good, it's fine. Caitlen's parents were here.

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Speaker 2: Your parents were here, So I think I would have had much more of an issue if it were just you. Thanks, not because I don't think you could handle it. Obviously you do, but I'm saying I think I would have been more concerned and I would have felt the need to check in constantly if it were just you. Not that I could have done anything, but because your parents we're here, I didn't feel that need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Three adults, two of them have already raised many children. So yeah, that's it. Hm, let's see. How is baby Billy.

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Speaker 4: I'm great, she's an angel.

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Speaker 1: What's the weight of the baby? And how she's sleeping?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: I don't know her weight right now?

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Speaker 1: You had a guess.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I had to guess eleven pounds. How she's sleeping, great, she's a really good sleeper.

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Speaker 4: Thankfully.

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Speaker 1: Arkansas or Oklahoma for college?

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Speaker 4: Oh, we talked about.

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Speaker 2: This is the conversation we have because Kaylen does not take the side you would think she would take, because obviously wo'd be like, well, Kayla must be fighting for Oklahoma because in my mind, there's only one option, and let's go to Arkansas.

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Speaker 4: Let me talk.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you time to think, don't you.

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Speaker 3: I don't have time to think about this because we have this conversation. I say to you, I like Oklahoma because I was born there and raised there. You like Arkansas because you were born there and raised there. We don't need to steer a billy away from liking her own state. I'm not saying she has to go to college at Tennessee, but I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You sing rocky Top, and that's not even who you are.

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Speaker 3: A great state song. It's a great it's arguably I think it's the.

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Speaker 2: Best state song. I don't know any other state songs really. Oklahoma, no, but nobody knows that. Even Oklahomas probably wouldn't have anything. I actually think a lot of people know that because of the UNS. That's your state song, Oklahoma, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: I actually don't know if it's our official sty song.

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Speaker 3: Joe, but that's rocky Top. I think since these official hates Okay, But I'm just saying a song about a state, well, West Virginia Mountain, Mamma, that's.

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Speaker 4: A good one too.

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Speaker 2: Again, but that's a real that's a pop song from John Dakay. But I'm just saying, okay, regardless we're can.

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Speaker 1: We come back anti Tennessee going to Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's fine if you.

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Speaker 3: But I also think that we don't want her to grow up not liking the state she lives in. And we live in Tennessee and she a Tennessee baby, which is weird for us. But I don't think we need to discourage that love like I want her. How sad would it be if you grew up and people like were forbidding you from liking Arkansas and you lived there.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have.

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Speaker 3: But that's my point, Like, we can't do that to her. So if she wants to be a little Rockie Top baby, that's fine with me.

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Speaker 1: Not an option. That's fine by me, Not an option. Best and worst thing you bought.

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Speaker 4: For the baby, best and worst thing.

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Speaker 2: Like probably something we bought and we use in something we bought and we don't use as much as we thought we would.

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Speaker 3: I will have to think about the worst thing, the best thing that we bought for the baby. I would say, we didn't even buy for the baby. And it's that big pregnancy ball that I bounced on when I was pregnant.

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Speaker 1: But that's and now, not a pregnancy ball. That's a gem ball.

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Speaker 3: No, it's I mean it was specifically a pregnancy ball.

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Speaker 1: Really, that's the same.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're all the Yes, I'm sure they're all the same. They just market them different ways. But that one is the one you're supposed to bounce on towards the end of your pregnancy, and that is the number one way to get her to calm down if she's crying, is bounce on that ball.

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Speaker 4: So it was like ten dollars on Amazon. So that's a great thing.

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Speaker 3: Another thing that we have that she really likes is that swing, the greycos swing.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she just got into it.

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Speaker 4: Oh or Grace so I don't know. Yeah, she really loves that.

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Speaker 1: How do you spell it?

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Speaker 4: G r Aco.

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Speaker 3: It's been around forever because I remember my mom had some of that brand for my sister and I remember thinking, oh, that's so lucky because her name was Grace and it was almost Grace on everything.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one letter off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was so cool. The worst thing we bought for her, I really can't think of anything.

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Speaker 1: I can. I'll go best.

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Speaker 2: And I've talked about this like seventy two times and I know it's not a new thing, but the fact that a rubber ducky tells you the temperature of the water, so the water's not too hot for your baby a plus.

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Speaker 1: Yep, we have one of those.

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Speaker 4: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Love it.

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Speaker 2: The thing that we bought that we don't use is the first infant bath that we just donated.

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Speaker 1: It was literally like a small bathtub.

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Speaker 2: What we found that works for us is it's this little thing with holes in it that's its own bath but it takes the water from the bathtub. Yeah, so the thing that we have sits in the water and holes come up in it and it allows that water to get in it.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing was just an independent bathtub. But I don't like that.

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Speaker 3: We needed that one at first because she was too little to get in the other one. Like and actually my parents got that for us from Target. Well it's not their fault.

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Speaker 2: Hey, wow, I just I feel like that me wasn't the one.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: But we had to use that the first couple of weeks because she couldn't fit in the one that she is in now.

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Speaker 4: So it's actually very helpful. Thanks Mom and dad. I'm sorry about him.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Mom and dad, I'm sorry about him that they're the ones I bought it. This was not a shot at my mom and dad. I'm just saying necessary about him.

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Speaker 4: Mom.

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Speaker 1: This is the Bobby Cast hardest adjustment, going from no kids to a baby.

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Speaker 3: Hardest adjustments. I mean the obvious ones, like you can't do whatever you want anymore. We can't just be like, hey, you want to go see a movie, which we didn't really do that before, but even like thinking about our summer vacation things like that, that's all shifted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've briefly thought of the idea of having a vacation, but we haven't even really decided if we're going to go anywhere or do anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. In the past, you know, in the past, we would have been like should we go to where?

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Speaker 4: Should we go?

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Speaker 3: Like the world, let's go to Paris, let's go to you know wherever. That's different, but that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just.

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Speaker 2: Say, like everything is now timed out, at least in this season. Yep, everything is timed out. Yeah, she's got a sleep, she doesn't get enough sleep, then she is tired the rest of the day because she ain't enough sleep, and that affects everything.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just easy come, easy go anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and definitely there was like a difference in weekdays and weekends because on the weekends it's like, oh, you get more rest and you know, get to chill. It's not like that anymore. No, there's weekends are are not rejuvenating.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin posted a pic in front of your TV and there were curtains around it.

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Speaker 1: Are those decorative? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes they are.

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Speaker 3: They pull and cover the TV because Bobby wanted that massive TV.

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Speaker 2: And who doesn't want a massive TV? Me, there's a big spot on the wall.

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Speaker 3: True, the spot was kind of begging for that, But regardless, we got this massive TV and it was just kind of an ice wre sometimes. So we put these cute little curtains up that match the rest of the curtains in our house and we can pull it shut and it actually looks quite nice.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we've pulled a shut I have I don't know that we have ever pulled a shut. You've never I don't know I've ever seen it pulled a shut. Okay, when you have a TV like that, that is that that's one hundred inch. It's that glorious. Great, there's onlying to cover that up. We can cover the Mona Lisa.

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Speaker 4: I've covered it.

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Speaker 3: Of the Mona Lisa's tiny, much smaller than people no, no, yes, I disagree.

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Speaker 2: I agree because everybody said it was so small for so long.

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Speaker 1: I expected to walk in and be a postage stamp.

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Speaker 2: I felt like it was way bigger than I thought it was going to be because forever everybody said it was so small.

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Speaker 4: I don't feel like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe haven't heard enough people talk about how small it is.

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Speaker 4: Maybe not.

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Speaker 2: Uh, the birth story is always won for the record books. Do you have anything you want to share? So, if anything you want us to share with our birth story, it's.

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Speaker 1: From Jim K. Buckley. Thank you, Jim K. Buckley.

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Speaker 3: The thing I will share about the birth story one is this is the best day of my life, my entire life. Having Billy is number one. I I hate, not that I hate, but I know so many women are so nervous about giving birth and I hate that and I was too, and so I just want to encourage anyone that's pregnant. Just know you have the best day of your life coming up and that let that get you through.

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Speaker 4: What was the any part I want to bring up? Is that what they said?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Any part of your birth story?

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Speaker 3: Billy was born to Neon Moon the song, which is awesome because we're really close with Ronnie and Jeanine and Ronnie saying Neon Moon at our wedding. We have a Neon Moon sign at our house that says our name on it, so that was really cool.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything you can think of?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what I can share. It's not my story.

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Speaker 4: What I mean, were there any special moments for you? Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they are exactly.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine any special moments would be something that I'd be like.

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Speaker 1: Don't share that. You are very nervous going into it, right.

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Speaker 4: Of course?

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Speaker 3: Is it nervous that they're about to push if you've never done it before.

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Speaker 1: They're applying, Yes, you had a hard pregnancy.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had a hard pregnancy. I did I have? I have ever even talked about this. I have an autoimmune disease that I was diagnosed with. How many years ago, three four. Yeah, it's all It's all Blair, an autoimmune disease that I was diagnosed with three or four years ago, and it has been a really difficult health journey for me. And so when I got pregnant with Billy, I wasn't I really sure how that would impact my pregnancy. I was on medication to help. I've been on medication for quite a while, like an oral chemotherapy pill that I take every day, and that has helped me feel a lot better, and I got approved to continue taking that. I chose that specific one because our doctor told me that whenever I got pregnant, I would be.

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Speaker 4: Able to still be on that one.

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Speaker 1: That's why you took it initially. That's why beginning yes.

00:24:32
Speaker 3: At the very beginning, because I was like, oh, I know we want to have kids. I don't know when we'll choose to do that, and I obviously need to get better before my body's able to do that. Not that I don't know if it was able to before, but just like, I wanted to be in the best place healthwise to support a good, healthy pregnancy.

00:24:49
Speaker 4: So they gave me options on medication. I chose the one that.

00:24:52
Speaker 3: They said would be fine to get pregnant on and I was on that through my pregnancy. And even though I was on that, it was still a high risk pregnancy, which we found out like second trimester ish late first trimester, we were told that because of my condition, it was high risk. So throughout my pregnancy, I had over forty ultrasounds and.

00:25:20
Speaker 1: Over forty ultrasounds or.

00:25:22
Speaker 3: Forty ultrasounds, and if you know anything about pregnancy and ultrasounds, I didn't. Normally, in a normal pregnancy you have two to three your whole pregnancy, and.

00:25:33
Speaker 4: I'm mind I had over forty. So it was really.

00:25:35
Speaker 3: Intense, very intense, every time, stress inducing. Yeah, there are times I would just yes, I would get very anxious before every ultrasound, and she was always fine. And some people might be like, oh, that's so fun. You get to see your baby, you know, twice a week towards the end, and it was, I mean it was once a week for forever, and then at the end it was twice a week, actually three.

00:26:05
Speaker 2: Times a week, three times, it was twice three times a week. Yeah, it's fun, but the reason you're going is not just not fun. It's like they're just trying to make sure they don't have to deliver bad news.

00:26:15
Speaker 1: To you, right.

00:26:18
Speaker 3: And we had no idea before I got pregnant that it would be that intense. She turned out fine, she's great, But yeah, it wasn't like fun. Every time I went I didn't get to like have that normal ultrasound experience where you get so excited to see your baby because a lot of times they we weren't looking at her face. It was like for a majority of the time, it was we're checking her heart, We're checking all of the things that this baby needs to be healthy. So it was very stress inducing for pretty much my whole pregnancy.

00:26:52
Speaker 2: But then go ahead because of how hard your pregnancy was, not only the emotional part of it, with every week, two and three times a week going in with best case scenario, you not getting terrible news, us not getting terrible news, Like that's best case scenario to not get terrible news, right, And so that's a constant stress because every time you go in, you go, is this the time, right, or they tell me that the heart is something's wrong.

00:27:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I will say that whenever we first met with like our high risk doctor, they told us that they put me on another medication that would help Billy, help me not pass on the antibody that I have through the placenta and give it to her. They put me on a medication, a medication to mitigate that, and so we knew early on that it was probably all going to be fine.

00:27:46
Speaker 4: I don't want everyone to think that like the whole time, it would.

00:27:50
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you, in hindsight, you make it seem a little easier.

00:27:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was hard, for sure, it was hard, but I didn't.

00:27:58
Speaker 1: Also, your autoimue hurt you during pregnancy physically too.

00:28:02
Speaker 4: Yeah.

00:28:03
Speaker 1: My whole point wasn't that.

00:28:06
Speaker 2: It was you went through all that, you were very nervous about getting through it healthy. You're very nervous obviously about delivering the baby. But as soon as Billy was born, like as soon as she was born and they put her on your chest, you lit up and you're like, I love her so much.

00:28:22
Speaker 1: I love her so much.

00:28:23
Speaker 2: It was just instant, no thinking, No there, it wasn't a thought, it was like a feeling. It's like the number one moment. Yeah, that was the number one moment. It's right when she was crying. Neon Moon was playing, And as soon as they put her on your chest. You just started saying that I love her so much. I love her so much. That's that's the part that I was going to bring up. But I think without knowing the earlier part, that part is still great. But I think it makes it a bit more dynamic, and you understand why it was so powerful.

00:28:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, just so long time worrying about her in utero.

00:29:06
Speaker 2: I was just concerned how food was going to get up to us for Meuber, and we figured it out.

00:29:15
Speaker 1: They would just bring it to different doors. Your parents were here.

00:29:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, my parents were here. They got to be here for the birth, which was amazing. I got to tell my dad that she was named after him. Yeah, you want to tell that story how we told him?

00:29:29
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. Obviously, she's named after your dad.

00:29:33
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she's named after my dad.

00:29:36
Speaker 2: A lot of people were like, how did you come up with it? Or how did you How did you settle on it?

00:29:40
Speaker 4: How do we settle?

00:29:41
Speaker 2: Yeah? And there's another It's like there's like a bunch of these and here's ones like other baby names you considered, why Billy, it's like an amalgamation of I can't share other.

00:29:50
Speaker 3: Baby names because what if we have another baby, I don't want to give those.

00:29:52
Speaker 1: Well, I really fought hard for Bobby.

00:29:56
Speaker 3: That got that got cut. Actually Bobby came, he presented the name Billy.

00:30:04
Speaker 2: To me.

00:30:05
Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:30:06
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm still sniffing up over here. He presented the name Billy to me, and.

00:30:13
Speaker 3: Well, first he presented Bobby, and I'm like no, and then he presented Billy. And we just kind of thought about it over a couple months, and I would say the one like, obviously, she's named after my dad, and I love my dad very much. I love both my parents, and we thought that that would be really special, and we loved the name Billy.

00:30:40
Speaker 4: We thought it was really cute.

00:30:42
Speaker 3: And one day we were still like kind of trying to decide, and I was.

00:30:50
Speaker 4: In our red light bed at the house.

00:30:53
Speaker 3: I always listen to music in there, and one thing that one song that came on was I'll be seeing You by Billie Holiday, and I just started crying. And for some reason in that moment, I just was like, Oh, it has to be Billy.

00:31:06
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

00:31:07
Speaker 3: It wasn't necessarily this. I guess it's just like the phrase I'll be seeing you. And I was so stressed about I don't want to cry.

00:31:20
Speaker 4: You have to stop, because I was just so stressed about.

00:31:29
Speaker 1: Her being okay.

00:31:32
Speaker 5: And so when I just like heard I'll be seeing you, I don't know, I just like I felt like it was God pressing play on this specific song with this woman named Billy, seeing this these lines that like I'll be seeing you essentially just giving me peace, like it will all be fine. And in that moment, I knew we should name it Billy Sorry.

00:32:00
Speaker 3: And then the name Selene I loved. There was a woman that we met in Paris one time working out a store and her name was Selene, and I thought it was so pretty, so and I love the combination of Billy Selene and it being like a little sporty and a little feminine. I thought that was really cute.

00:32:19
Speaker 1: So get a few more here. Okay, I can't answer this one. Only you can. How is Caitlin doing postpartum?

00:32:27
Speaker 4: As I've been crying for the whole podcast.

00:32:30
Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's fully postpartum.

00:32:32
Speaker 3: I think that's just like good, Yeah, how am I doing postpartum?

00:32:36
Speaker 4: I am doing well. It is crazy.

00:32:42
Speaker 3: As Bobbi mentioned earlier, what your body goes through and honestly what your mind goes through and how your brain is just totally rewired after you give birth to like protect this child. And yeah, so my doing good all things considered, I think I'm doing great.

00:33:06
Speaker 4: I love Billy very much.

00:33:08
Speaker 3: I still love my husband very much, which is nice. And I'm slowly starting to be more active. So my physical recovery is getting better and my emotional recovery, my hormonal recovery. I'm not even giving it a grade yet because I'm too early in the process to like judge myself either way. I'm just taking it a day at a time, feeling my feelings still, you know, going to therapy, talking through all of these things and kind of learning how to be.

00:33:50
Speaker 4: But I'm doing well. I'm sorry if my answers are so scattered.

00:33:53
Speaker 1: No, you're doing great.

00:33:54
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00:34:02
Speaker 2: A couple more. Who have you guys? Let meet the baby and why Well, our pediatrician puts the fear of God in us, and I think pediatrician does that to everybody purposefully. And she was like, hey, baby doesn't have the shots yet. The two months and I wouldn't let everybody be around her. Let your close circle and make sure they're not sick, and make sure they wash their hands, but let's not do a parade.

00:34:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she.

00:34:34
Speaker 2: Kind of gave us the worst case scenario of what could happen, and so we have been We've not marched her around town, No, we haven't. Eddie and his wife have been over a couple of times, a few times, Amy obviously, Mike D, Mike D, your.

00:34:57
Speaker 3: Parents, Morgan, Massen, Girl Morgan and one Keaton. I mean our friends. I don't know if people know our friends. I don't need to name them all, but.

00:35:06
Speaker 1: Like Tom Tom Lord manager.

00:35:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josie, Yeah, doctor Josue is about to have a baby herself.

00:35:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so excited for her. Yeah, I think that's I mean a lot more people than that, but yeah.

00:35:18
Speaker 2: Not a lot. We private to think hard. I can think of Eric, Eric Caitlyn recently. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

00:35:27
Speaker 1: Like our our first round circle, yes.

00:35:30
Speaker 3: Definitely, like people that were that are very much in our daily lives, and we're throughout the pregnancy journey with us too.

00:35:39
Speaker 2: I won't say her name for privacy reasons, but like my business manager now, our business manager.

00:35:44
Speaker 1: But she didn't mind for a decade.

00:35:46
Speaker 2: Yes, and we're very close to her, and so she was over Stephanie wife, well.

00:35:54
Speaker 1: When we're outside their house doing a walk. But yeah, they came over.

00:35:58
Speaker 4: To Yeah, I mean were we close with them?

00:36:01
Speaker 1: Yeah?

00:36:01
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying they not only did we go by their house and they come out, but they came over to the house too.

00:36:05
Speaker 1: Tom came like the day you came home. We didn't even really have.

00:36:08
Speaker 2: The fear of putting us yet, and are my friend, our friend, my manager. Tom Lord was like, yep, hey, I'm take a shower. I'll be right over. And I didn't realize that he was like saying he was going to get cleaned up for the baby. I thought he was just like taking a shower for the day. But he gets comes over. He totally He's like, all right, I'm all clean, let me have let me, let me see her.

00:36:26
Speaker 1: It was literally like the day we got home.

00:36:28
Speaker 3: But we loved Tom, and honestly, I feel like in that moment we needed that because my parents had just left.

00:36:35
Speaker 4: And we like we needed to share her with someone.

00:36:39
Speaker 3: It just felt like someone needs to come and look at this baby and tell us how great she.

00:36:44
Speaker 1: Is, Josie, you know, getting closer, and so I.

00:36:50
Speaker 2: Think giving birth, Yeah, Doc Josie to give me birth. And I think it's hopefully been a resource for her that you just had a baby, Yeah, because I think there is a difference and advice people give you that have had kids, And I think there is some prominence and advice that people can give you if they've just experienced it anything.

00:37:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like what I don't want to speak for Josie. I'll just speak for what it would be. What would have been helpful for me is if I had a friend that had just gone through it and I could just go over to their house and observe. And Josie's done that a few times, you know, just because people can send you links and this is what you need to buy, and this what you need to do. But when you're that far along in your pregnancy and you're just tired and you don't want to think through all these things, I imagine it's kind of nice to come over and see how we've organized our bottles, and like how you're feeding the baby and what do you what burp cloths are you using and when do you burp and like all these things that are just of course you can figure it out, but it's.

00:37:57
Speaker 4: Almost a cheat.

00:38:00
Speaker 3: Sheat to be able to go over and just observe your friend doing it and be like, Okay, I can do that.

00:38:05
Speaker 4: It's not hard.

00:38:07
Speaker 2: Another one, I'll have two more here. Another one is people asking about the cruise if we thought you would go into labor while I was on the cruise.

00:38:16
Speaker 1: There was a chance, there was a chance. That's why I had to leave the cruise early.

00:38:20
Speaker 2: Like we were so nerve because Kaitlin was so close that we went to the doctor of the day I left.

00:38:24
Speaker 3: Not only was I so close, but my pregnancy was high risk. So there were just a lot of factors that came into fly towards the end, and a lot of like stress and worrying. And I mean at that point it was like she's totally fine and we knew that, but if well, i'll rephrase that, towards the end, it was you're far enough along that if anything happened, now we can get her out correct. And so with going and getting ultrasounds three times a week, whenever you know, especially you know the week you were gone, it's like, well they could see something at any moment, and if they see something, I got to go to the hospital and we have to get this baby out. So that was stressful. But we did see the doctor the day, the hours before you left. I was to get the final like, okay, he's fine to be gone for this amount of time. We think hopefully fingers crossed, and we did. We went and we the doctor said you're you're good for right now.

00:39:29
Speaker 4: We're all good, so you can go.

00:39:31
Speaker 3: And so then you left and my parents were here, right yeah, just in case. My parents were here with me, just in case anything happened.

00:39:40
Speaker 4: So that was nice. But yeah, it was very scary.

00:39:45
Speaker 3: And some people send me some mean messages about you, about the cruise or whatever, and and I just want.

00:39:52
Speaker 4: To say to those people. I'm not going to say what I want to say to.

00:39:55
Speaker 3: These people, but I will say sometimes there's a lot more going on behind the scene.

00:40:00
Speaker 4: Then you know, like maybe someone's wife has a high risk.

00:40:04
Speaker 1: Pregnancy and she's and she's also nine months pregnant.

00:40:06
Speaker 3: Also nine months pregnant could give birth to any moment. It's very scary situation. So maybe just understand, just be more understanding. Let's just give more people the benefit of the doubt our doctor.

00:40:18
Speaker 2: You're a doctor, but she said, she's so close, I can write you a note. Yeah, that would clear you from having to go.

00:40:28
Speaker 3: And obviously, whenever you signed on for this cruise, I wasn't pregnant.

00:40:31
Speaker 1: Nope, it was months before you get pregnant.

00:40:34
Speaker 4: And we weren't.

00:40:35
Speaker 3: I'm it's not like we were family planning around a cruise, like we weren't thinking. We weren't thinking about it. We weren't like, oh, wait, better not try this time because that would be this. No, we're just living life.

00:40:50
Speaker 2: We were living life. And that was stressful for me a bit because I get it. I yeah, I totally get it. I didn't want to have to leave though for the two days I was gone, right, but I had made a commitment, and although I couldn't be there for all the four of the days, I still had to go. But the doctor was like, you can't be out of the water and not have a way to get back home in case something goes wrong for two days at a time.

00:41:12
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that was wild. I just remember being so happy when you go home, just like such a because that was the last thing relief. Yeah, there were a couple things things in a row that like the super Bowl something else.

00:41:29
Speaker 4: So no, it was a super Bowl and something else.

00:41:32
Speaker 1: The super Bowl, which was a couple or a few weeks before that.

00:41:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably something else, but that was the big one because it was right around the darm and not even that it was you could have also gone to labor before the cruise and I couldn't have gone at all, right, But.

00:41:45
Speaker 3: Not only that, it was like you couldn't get back. Yeah, that was the problem. There's no helicopter coming off the boat.

00:41:51
Speaker 2: And so we asked, like, if she goes in the labor and now I'm out in the middle of the ocean, is there a helicopter that can take me home, I'll pay for it.

00:41:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they were like, we don't know.

00:41:59
Speaker 2: Right.

00:41:59
Speaker 3: It was like this super Bowl was different. You could get home if you needed to in the middle of the sea.

00:42:05
Speaker 4: You're at sea.

00:42:06
Speaker 3: Oh. I just remember having so many conversations with my friends like they were. They were stressed. I think I couldn't let myself get that worked up about it. But some of our friends were.

00:42:17
Speaker 4: Just like, what, no, I know, how does this work out? How does this timing work out?

00:42:23
Speaker 1: It was wild, It is wild.

00:42:26
Speaker 2: Any advice for anyone that's about to have baby, the first baby.

00:42:30
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I already kind of said this, but you're about to have the best day of your life. And I know it's hard, and I know it sucks, but you are about to have the best day of your life. So try to remember that. People told me that whenever I was pregnant, and I didn't really think it would be the best day of my life because giving the thing process is so intense and it can be so scary, but it is the best day of your life. So I would say, know that any advice, be gentle with yourself. Make sure that your partner, your parents, whoever it is that is going to help you, make sure you let them help you. Because you're going through something major C section, major, vaginal birth, major, like whatever it is. It's intense, it's really hard on your body. Give yourself grace. Know you're a great mom. If you're asking for advice, I already think you are a great mom because you care enough to ask advice, and so just accept help. Go easy on yourself. I would say, maybe read a little bit about what happens to the brain whenever you give birth, because that will help you know that you're not crazy, that there's a lot going on biologically in your body. But I don't really have advice other than that I'm not far enough or removed to be reflective enough to think that I've done anything great that I want to share with the world.

00:44:27
Speaker 4: Just be easy with yourself, except help period.

00:44:32
Speaker 1: All Right, only ten episodes left.

00:44:35
Speaker 4: I feel like it's nine, didn't I promise eleven twelve? I did? Yeah, I have only done one other than this. Are you sure?

00:44:43
Speaker 2: Yeah?

00:44:45
Speaker 4: Oh, I did the one when I was pregnant and then this one. Yep, only if I answer two more questions? Is that chip away?

00:44:55
Speaker 1: It doesn't.

00:44:56
Speaker 2: But I'll take off three at a time. If you ever do it on video, We're never over there. How am I going to go over there? Well you have. I mean, it's a whole process, and we can take Billy. Well, it's a whole process. I get it. But I'm just saying this is so much easier. Yeah, we just walk down and record walk out. Nobody here, you and I am. We just go down here and record it.

00:45:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll not how many off I do video?

00:45:17
Speaker 2: Three?

00:45:18
Speaker 4: Okay? I mean, I just don't see how we swing that right now.

00:45:24
Speaker 2: But okay, it's a couple months older. It's an open offer. Okay, all right, thank you everybody for all the questions.

00:45:32
Speaker 4: Thanks everybody, I got everybody.

00:45:34
Speaker 1: It's Bobby and Caylen show. The Gaylen and Bobby is show hate.

00:45:37
Speaker 3: That reminds me of the song I sing to Billy.

00:45:41
Speaker 1: I like this song because I'm not in it, and.

00:45:44
Speaker 2: Now I can't think of the melody while I was singing the melody that run it for you?

00:45:48
Speaker 4: Yeah you were, Billian.

00:45:51
Speaker 3: Could you Singilly and or Mom?

00:45:55
Speaker 4: You sing that one?

00:45:55
Speaker 6: No?

00:45:56
Speaker 2: I Singilly and her Dad?

00:46:02
Speaker 4: Billy you do?

00:46:03
Speaker 1: It's the Billy and too many melodies in our heads.

00:46:08
Speaker 4: It's Mom and Billy, Billy and Mom.

00:46:12
Speaker 3: It's the Mom and Billy, Billy and Mom and Billy, Billy and Mom.

00:46:17
Speaker 4: It's the Mom and Billy show.

00:46:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta do it without me talking over you though. On two three.

00:46:23
Speaker 3: Mom and Billy, Billy and Mom, Mom and Billy, Billy and Mom, Mom and Billy, Billy and Mom.

00:46:31
Speaker 4: It's the Mom and Billy Show.

00:46:33
Speaker 2: I walk in and they're doing the show. They're already doing a show, all right, by everybody

00:46:38
Speaker 6: Thanks for listening to a Bobby cast production,