Episode 107: Donating Blood, Count the Fast or the Window?, Fasting on Hard Days, and More

<v Speaker 1>Welcome the Fast Feast Repeat Intermittent Fasting for Life. I'm
<v Speaker 1>Jen Stevens, author of the New York Times bestseller Fast Feast.
<v Speaker 2>Repeat, and I'm Sherry Bullock, longtime intermittent faster and health
<v Speaker 2>and wellness advocate. Please keep in mind that this podcast
<v Speaker 2>is for educational and motivational purposes only and is not
<v Speaker 2>intended to provide medical or diagnostic advice. Jen and I
<v Speaker 2>are not doctors, so make sure to check with your
<v Speaker 2>trusted healthcare professionals before making changes, especially when it comes
<v Speaker 2>to any medical treatments or medications.
<v Speaker 1>Whether you're new to intermittent fasting or an experienced intermittent faster,
<v Speaker 1>tune in each week to get inspired, to learn, and
<v Speaker 1>to have some fun along the way. Hi, everybody, we
<v Speaker 1>are so glad you're here today. Welcome to this week's
<v Speaker 1>episode of the Fast Feast Repeat Intermittent Fasting for Life Podcast.
<v Speaker 1>How are you doing today's Sherry?
<v Speaker 2>I am a little bit stressed out this morning. I'm
<v Speaker 2>just gonna give everybody a disclaimer. There is a lot
<v Speaker 2>of heavy equipment you surround my house. Apparently my whole
<v Speaker 2>neighborhood's having their trees trimmed.
<v Speaker 1>But I was out of the loop.
<v Speaker 2>I need trees trimmed, but apparently I missed them when
<v Speaker 2>they went door to door or something. So I have
<v Speaker 2>tree tremors on both sides of my house.
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh.
<v Speaker 2>And my lawn guy just showed up as well. So
<v Speaker 2>Luna Bell is a little bit in a tizzy today.
<v Speaker 2>So if you hear Luna Bell barking in the background,
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. She does not like strangers and loud noises
<v Speaker 2>around and that's all that's happening that's around her everywhere.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm having a thunderstorm, so there could be thunder
<v Speaker 1>so today will be the weird noises episode. But you
<v Speaker 1>look really pretty? Are you wearing lipstick? No, I'm not
<v Speaker 1>wearing lipstick.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it is a lip stain. I found it. It's
<v Speaker 2>like a clean lipstain. It's really bright right now because
<v Speaker 2>I just put it on, okay, but it just kind
<v Speaker 2>of fades and like when you put it on, it's
<v Speaker 2>like liquid, okay, and you have to just let it
<v Speaker 2>soak in. It's made with vegetable sighs, like colors from vegetables.
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the name of the brand of it.
<v Speaker 2>It's like six dollars and you can get it at
<v Speaker 2>Walmart and it's on EWG and I just happen to
<v Speaker 2>find it one day.
<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't do anything weird like as it fades
<v Speaker 1>and say, whenever I've tried any like, I put nothing
<v Speaker 1>on my lips but birds bees. That's it. I just
<v Speaker 1>use that lip bomb. I do not own a lipstick.
<v Speaker 1>I do not own a lip gloss, and so like
<v Speaker 1>everybody who's always putting on lipstick, I don't even have any.
<v Speaker 2>I am not a lipstick wear I wear tinted lip bomb.
<v Speaker 1>When I've tried to wear tinted lip wom.
<v Speaker 2>I have this old beauty counter tinted lip mom that
<v Speaker 2>I love.
<v Speaker 1>I always end up with ring around the lips. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what I do wrong. I have no idea.
<v Speaker 1>Do you like rub your lips together? I have no idea. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what you do either.
<v Speaker 1>I got funky lips. I just whatever I do, I've
<v Speaker 1>always ended up with like weird ring around the lips,
<v Speaker 1>or it gets all over my teeth, or it's spread.
<v Speaker 1>I just do not have good knowledge of what my
<v Speaker 1>lips are doing. Maybe I'm not sure.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I have very like compared to my skin color,
<v Speaker 2>which I have kind of deep skin tone. I've really
<v Speaker 2>pale lips. Yeah, and since I was probably in seventh grade,
<v Speaker 2>I've always worn something on my lips because I don't
<v Speaker 2>feel like my face. I'm the same way with mascara.
<v Speaker 2>Until I have mescara on and lips on, I feel
<v Speaker 2>like my face is just a blank canvas.
<v Speaker 1>That's funny. I do my eyes. I just do my
<v Speaker 1>eyes like I output eyelinder on eyeshadow. I fill in
<v Speaker 1>my little weird I have that weird mole in my eyebrow,
<v Speaker 1>and I put on mascara and then I'm done. If
<v Speaker 1>I have like a ZiT, I'll put on some concealer,
<v Speaker 1>but I usually don't. I don't even put on any
<v Speaker 1>of that. But I got nothing for the lips. Nothing.
<v Speaker 1>See you said, I look really pretty.
<v Speaker 2>All I have going on today is a little concealer,
<v Speaker 2>mascara and this lip stain.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I wish our body could see you, but they cannot.
<v Speaker 1>Cereals have to take my word for well. So it's
<v Speaker 1>I learned.
<v Speaker 2>It's liquid like it'll drip, and so you put it
<v Speaker 2>on and you have to just let it dry. You
<v Speaker 2>don't blot it or anything. But it's got a real
<v Speaker 2>fine point, so you can like outline your lips and
<v Speaker 2>then you let it dry and it literally lasts probably
<v Speaker 2>for like eight hours.
<v Speaker 1>And does it feel real dry? See that's what always
<v Speaker 1>happened when I would try to put a stain on.
<v Speaker 1>It would feel draw and then I would try probably
<v Speaker 1>try to put the bird's bees on top of it,
<v Speaker 1>and then I would end up with ring around the lips. Oh,
<v Speaker 1>because it was like migrating. Probably.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know this. You can actually put on
<v Speaker 2>your cheeks too.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>You can just like dab a little on your cheeks,
<v Speaker 2>like and it comes in like three colors. I tell
<v Speaker 2>everybody at work about it because I can literally put
<v Speaker 2>it on, forget about it, and then my lips are dry.
<v Speaker 1>I just put a little lipom on. Well, when you're
<v Speaker 1>here in six days, maybe I could try it. Can
<v Speaker 1>I try it? Yeah, you can try it, try it
<v Speaker 1>and see if I like it. I don't know that
<v Speaker 1>you want this color. Yeah, Cherry's coming in six days
<v Speaker 1>everybody where.
<v Speaker 2>Finally, noverybody's gonna ask.
<v Speaker 1>Me, now, what is this lipstain that you're doing. I
<v Speaker 1>know we're not sponsored by them either. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>who they are, but I'm not sponsored by Birt's Bees
<v Speaker 1>or that they should sponsor me though, because I'm addicted
<v Speaker 1>to it, like I'm one of those people. Oh funny stories.
<v Speaker 2>So I told y'all like a couple weeks ago that
<v Speaker 2>my parents have started pasting. I think there may be
<v Speaker 2>six weeks in now. I sent them Fast Fee's repeat,
<v Speaker 2>and they're doing well.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I told my mom.
<v Speaker 2>In the very very beginning that my dad needed to
<v Speaker 2>give up his Kirkland brand cold brew, oh.
<v Speaker 1>Because it's got that weird ingredient and there it's called
<v Speaker 1>coffee is coffee extra. We don't know what that is,
<v Speaker 1>so we avoid it well.
<v Speaker 2>And then my mom sent me some complicated article about
<v Speaker 2>how they make coffee extract and I was just like, so,
<v Speaker 2>like five weeks was passed, and she said, so, we've
<v Speaker 2>been reading Gen's book and we're learning all about the
<v Speaker 2>Clean Fast and I know you talked about it, but
<v Speaker 2>now I'm wondering should Dad not be drinking his cold brew?
<v Speaker 1>This is the ingredients.
<v Speaker 2>And I was busy, I think I was at work,
<v Speaker 2>and I just said, Mom, I told you in the
<v Speaker 2>very beginning that Dad needed to not drink that during
<v Speaker 2>the fast. And then she said, oh, I'm sorry, I
<v Speaker 2>don't think I remembered that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm like, I'm not yelling at you. I'm just.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's just how much I believe in the
<v Speaker 2>Clean Fast, right, And she said, has he not been
<v Speaker 2>getting any benefits? And I said, look, he's still adapting
<v Speaker 2>right now, his body still adapting, but he needs to
<v Speaker 2>probably give it up.
<v Speaker 1>We err on the side of caution if we don't
<v Speaker 1>know what something is. If it's a weird ingredient, we
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's in coffee extract. Also, when they say
<v Speaker 1>like natural flavors, we don't know what that is. They
<v Speaker 1>could literally hide a sweetener in there and call it
<v Speaker 1>natural flavors, because they do that kind of shady stuff.
<v Speaker 1>And the only reason we really really know that it
<v Speaker 1>matters is the number of people who have had one
<v Speaker 1>of those kinds of coffee with those mystery ingredients. They
<v Speaker 1>give it up and they're like, man, this does make
<v Speaker 1>a difference. You're right, yep.
<v Speaker 2>I told my mom heard that a lot like my
<v Speaker 2>dad gets up really early and he does two cups
<v Speaker 2>of pour over or he was I don't even know
<v Speaker 2>what he's doing because he the longest time went fast
<v Speaker 2>because he said he has to eat with coffee.
<v Speaker 1>It gives him indigestion.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and I gave him the whole baking soda tip,
<v Speaker 2>and so I don't really know what he's been doing
<v Speaker 2>for coffee. But then mid morning he normally has one
<v Speaker 2>of these cold brews, and I knew that. That's why
<v Speaker 2>I said, tell him that has to be in his window.
<v Speaker 2>So I haven't talked to him to notice to see
<v Speaker 2>if he's noticed a difference in giving it up. But
<v Speaker 2>they're doing great. And my mom is seventy five and
<v Speaker 2>my dad is seventy four, and they both could lose
<v Speaker 2>some weight. But my mom and dad both have Alzheimer's
<v Speaker 2>in dimensions, they're big. And they read some article and
<v Speaker 2>somebody in community asked me what article they read, and
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't know. My dad sent it to me.
<v Speaker 2>I didn't save it because it wasn't that great of
<v Speaker 2>an article, but it was just enough for whatever reason,
<v Speaker 2>it was just enough that it got my dad going,
<v Speaker 2>maybe we should try this.
<v Speaker 1>So love that you planted the seed and then they
<v Speaker 1>were ready.
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing I mean, really, I've been fasting for
<v Speaker 2>almost ten years. I started fasting red after I got married.
<v Speaker 2>July fourth, which is this coming Friday, is Eric's in
<v Speaker 2>my ten year anniversary. So I'm coming up on ten
<v Speaker 2>years since i started internt fasting. They've known I do it.
<v Speaker 2>They've known about the podcast like they have never All
<v Speaker 2>they've ever said is I don't know how you wait
<v Speaker 2>until three o'clock in the afternoon to eat. Yeah, but
<v Speaker 2>when they were ready, they were ready. And that's the
<v Speaker 2>way it works. People ask all the time, how can
<v Speaker 2>I get my husband or how can I get my daughter?
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, you can't get anybody to do it.
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things you just have to live
<v Speaker 2>the lifestyle, and when they're ready, they'll ask you the
<v Speaker 2>right questions and you can get them started.
<v Speaker 1>Yep.
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, how are you other than thunderstormy?
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just a few booms of thunder, you know
<v Speaker 1>how that is. It's the time of the year for that. So, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>doing great. I had a nice friend visit with our
<v Speaker 1>mutual friend Michelle, Yes, and it's been nice. Yeah, she's
<v Speaker 1>doing great and we've had a really nice time. It's
<v Speaker 1>really nice to have an intermittent faster visit, like when
<v Speaker 1>you visit, it's just so nice and it's very easy
<v Speaker 1>to keep to a one meal a day. Absolutely window
<v Speaker 1>when you've got another intermittent faster with you, versus when
<v Speaker 1>you have people who want to go out to eat
<v Speaker 1>lunch and later than my window ends up like more
<v Speaker 1>like an eight hour window. But we've had great windows.
<v Speaker 1>We've enjoyed all the good things, and it's been really nice, awesome,
<v Speaker 1>we've had good food.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm looking forward to coming. I need some beach
<v Speaker 2>therapy and I'm looking forward to eating some delicious food
<v Speaker 2>out there. I've been not eating out, not been ordering out,
<v Speaker 2>nothing since about the middle of May. Other than like
<v Speaker 2>I think three times for like special occasions, i've eaten out,
<v Speaker 2>and so I was just like, you know what, there's
<v Speaker 2>really nothing good to eat out around here anyways. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna save up and I'm going to enjoy
<v Speaker 2>all the good food at the beach in July and
<v Speaker 2>save it for Then.
<v Speaker 1>We went out and had all you can eat crab
<v Speaker 1>legs yesterday, but I've gotten it out of my system.
<v Speaker 1>I think I haven't had all you can eat crab
<v Speaker 1>legs and I don't know, oh, probably when my dad
<v Speaker 1>visited the beach in twenty twenty one, my whole family
<v Speaker 1>was here. We went out to eat. My dad wanted
<v Speaker 1>crab legs. That's the last time that I've had all
<v Speaker 1>you can eat crab legs. I got a out of
<v Speaker 1>my system. I was like, oh a boy, the time.
<v Speaker 1>You know I've never eaten them. Well, I'm not taking
<v Speaker 1>you eat all you can ey grablogs because first of all,
<v Speaker 1>it's Monday night at the place that has them, with
<v Speaker 1>the claw House, which sure you know the Claw House.
<v Speaker 1>They had those good crab nachos, but yeah, I was like,
<v Speaker 1>they just something about they're delicious, but they just never
<v Speaker 1>quite satisfy. I can't imagine. You know, I love fish.
<v Speaker 1>I know you don't.
<v Speaker 2>Like I love salmon, like some wild caught salmon. I'll
<v Speaker 2>cook stuff with like halibut or cod or whatever, you know,
<v Speaker 2>just simple white fish stuff, but it does not stick
<v Speaker 2>with me.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I know it's like.
<v Speaker 2>Pretty high in protein, but I am starving later. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>and so I know I can have like some fish
<v Speaker 2>with a window opener, but I cannot have it as
<v Speaker 2>my main meal. I will be prowl in the kitchen
<v Speaker 2>looking for something else.
<v Speaker 1>To eat.
<v Speaker 2>And it's so funny that it affects me that way.
<v Speaker 2>But it's always been that way, Like I know that.
<v Speaker 2>So that's just part of learning what does and does
<v Speaker 2>not satisfy you.
<v Speaker 1>I guess. Yeah. But if anybody's had murals in Little
<v Speaker 1>on a Monday, the claw house they do have, it
<v Speaker 1>was real butter. You know sometimes you get funky butter.
<v Speaker 1>That it was real butter. Like they had to wait
<v Speaker 1>for it. They were back there melting. It wasn't ready.
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna be honest, it looks like a lot
<v Speaker 2>of work for not a lot of it was.
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of work, but I, like I said,
<v Speaker 1>I got it out of my system. So do not
<v Speaker 1>ask me to take you for all. You can eat
<v Speaker 1>crab legs on.
<v Speaker 2>All I will not well and fun fact too well.
<v Speaker 2>Number one, I'm a messy eater, so that's nothing I
<v Speaker 2>would eat in a restaurant. Oh my god, they're so messy.
<v Speaker 2>I'd like butter running down my arms. And number two,
<v Speaker 2>I hate for my hands to be dirty. You would
<v Speaker 2>hate crab legs. I would need so many napkins. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>but funny story for y'all. Roxy and I are going
<v Speaker 2>to be there next week. And Roxy and I are
<v Speaker 2>big meat eaters.
<v Speaker 1>We love meat. Jen does not.
<v Speaker 2>And I we were talking about places that we've never
<v Speaker 2>eaten that maybe we could eat or whatever, and I said,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've never been to a Brazilian steakhouse. I've
<v Speaker 2>always wanted to go. It sounds like heaven to me.
<v Speaker 2>They just keep bringing meat to your table. And Roxy's like,
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, I love that. That's my favorite. And
<v Speaker 2>Jen was like, I'm not going to a Brazilian steakhouse
<v Speaker 2>with y'all.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that doesn't sound good. No, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I've heard they have a lot of veggie options and
<v Speaker 2>salad bars, but you're not even a salad eater.
<v Speaker 1>Well, I did have a really good salad at a
<v Speaker 1>place one the other day. It was like a beet salad.
<v Speaker 1>I like a beet salad. It was like beets. It
<v Speaker 1>was at the Wicked Tune. Also at the Marshwalk it
<v Speaker 1>was beets and arugola and goat cheese and pecans.
<v Speaker 2>So here's our crazy question. Yeah, can you eat raw
<v Speaker 2>beets or do they have to be always prepared?
<v Speaker 1>Now? I don't even know what they do. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they've been roasted. Okay, they've been roast.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're raw. I think they've been roasted.
<v Speaker 2>But i'd be like eating a potato, right Yeah, I
<v Speaker 2>think they were rinolet archie.
<v Speaker 1>But you would be proud of me because on the side,
<v Speaker 1>I had mashed potatoes. Like, I just went in the
<v Speaker 1>mid for meat. They have good steak there. But Michelle
<v Speaker 1>was really want to misteaks. I was like, I would
<v Speaker 1>like this beat. First. I ordered some Hummus at Hummus
<v Speaker 1>beat salad and mashed potatoes. So that's a gin meal
<v Speaker 1>right there.
<v Speaker 2>Well, you cooked me beats one time at your house,
<v Speaker 2>I think while we were working to build the first
<v Speaker 2>the community community and I was there for that week
<v Speaker 2>and you made some something Beats meal kit that had
<v Speaker 2>beats in it, and it was like some sort of
<v Speaker 2>roasted beet salad and I ate it and it was fine.
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna know, they're just kind of earthy. They are earthy,
<v Speaker 2>but I'd never eaten them again. But I know they're
<v Speaker 2>like a nutritional powerhouse, and so I decide I was
<v Speaker 2>going to try to eat them. And I had bought
<v Speaker 2>some that were like in the produce area package that
<v Speaker 2>you could add to salad or whatever, and I did
<v Speaker 2>a little trial and error. I only like them if
<v Speaker 2>they're sweets, like a sweet pickle type. Yeah, maybe it
<v Speaker 2>covers up the bitter earthiness.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I like, which is weird because I usually like savory
<v Speaker 2>over sweet. I'm not a sweet person's well, I don't
<v Speaker 2>like sweet potatoes or purple or mean purple orange vegetables cooked.
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that sweet flavor.
<v Speaker 2>But there's something about the like pickled sweet beets that
<v Speaker 2>I like.
<v Speaker 1>So that's it. That's the only beat I'm eating. Well,
<v Speaker 1>I get it. We've had some good food, but well,
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to some more good food when y'all come.
<v Speaker 1>And also people who are good at keeping a window. Yes,
<v Speaker 1>that we can do.
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's celebrate Sarah in Mansfield.
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where that is England.
<v Speaker 2>That would be my guess. That'd be my guess, but
<v Speaker 2>it could also be maybe someplace up in the northeast,
<v Speaker 2>like I guess. So I'm sure that sounds like a
<v Speaker 2>Let's see if any of her spelling looks like it's British.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. It didn't. That's what she didn't
<v Speaker 1>say that she was gutted. She didn't put a U
<v Speaker 1>in there somewhere, A word a funny thing.
<v Speaker 2>I've started adding us to words that I just from
<v Speaker 2>reading people's stuff in community from overseas, like favorite the
<v Speaker 2>other day, I've put a you in it, And I'm
<v Speaker 2>constantly trying to put a you in yogurt. Now that's funny.
<v Speaker 2>And then I catch myself and I'm like, what am
<v Speaker 2>I doing? That's not how we spell that here in
<v Speaker 2>America anyway. So Sarah in Mansfield says, I I have
<v Speaker 2>to thank you both. I have just started my eye
<v Speaker 2>off journey on May twelfth, and it is already making
<v Speaker 2>such a difference. Yesterday was a real eye opener. My
<v Speaker 2>ten month old was sick, and I spent the last
<v Speaker 2>three hours of my eating window taking care of him.
<v Speaker 2>When he was finally asleep, I looked at the clock
<v Speaker 2>and was hungry. My window had just closed, but I
<v Speaker 2>opened it again just to make sure I had eaten enough.
<v Speaker 2>It was so freeing to know that I could just
<v Speaker 2>let life happen and sudge just thirty minutes and my
<v Speaker 2>whole day was not ruined. I knew I would just
<v Speaker 2>close again and fast my eighteen hours as usual today.
<v Speaker 2>It was so amazing, and my husband agreed that he
<v Speaker 2>noticed the change in my outlook. Thank you so much.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the freedom, Sarah. That the key is that
<v Speaker 1>she looked at the clock, recognized if she was just
<v Speaker 1>following like a time her window was closed. But she
<v Speaker 1>said she was hungry, and so that's the reason to eat.
<v Speaker 1>You're hungry. You don't have to force it, make yourself
<v Speaker 1>for although I did was hungry last I told you
<v Speaker 1>just anrtalle text. But last Thursday I went to trivia
<v Speaker 1>and got home and I was legitimately hungry because I
<v Speaker 1>didn't eat at trivia, and i'd closed my window maybe
<v Speaker 1>four thirty, so it was like nine thirty, and I
<v Speaker 1>was legitimately hungry. Yeah that's early for you. Yeah, closing
<v Speaker 1>at four thirty is earlier for me. And I was
<v Speaker 1>like mad, but I kept it closed. I was like,
<v Speaker 1>I'm not eating at nine thirty. I'm not really that.
<v Speaker 1>I'll be fine. Hunger is not an emergency. But I
<v Speaker 1>don't like to go to bed feeling hungry. But I did.
<v Speaker 2>You're usually in bed by bad time, too, aren't you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I usually go to bed at nine in the summer,
<v Speaker 1>it stretches a little later just because it's the days
<v Speaker 1>or longer still light at nine o'clock, so it feels
<v Speaker 1>weird to be getting in the bed. But yeah, but
<v Speaker 1>I kept my window closed, but I was hungry, and
<v Speaker 1>I was a little mad that I was hungry because
<v Speaker 1>I guess I hadn't eaten enough, you know before it's
<v Speaker 1>to trivia, and my body was like, all right, we
<v Speaker 1>need a little more. But I'm over the trivia food.
<v Speaker 1>So that's the problem. Funny, because I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I think you get accustomed to it, because I know
<v Speaker 2>some people are like, oh, I couldn't sleep, I had
<v Speaker 2>to get back up and eat YadA, YadA YadA. For me,
<v Speaker 2>I rarely do that. I mean occasionally I will if
<v Speaker 2>I just cannot get over it. But I probably go
<v Speaker 2>to sleep hungry most nights.
<v Speaker 1>Really.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I have moved my window, and I close
<v Speaker 2>it a lot earlier, just because I found out I
<v Speaker 2>sleep so much closed it earlier. I try to have
<v Speaker 2>it closed like no later than seven, and I go
<v Speaker 2>to bed later though seah, I mean I don't. I
<v Speaker 2>might go to bed between eleven and one, okay, And
<v Speaker 2>so that is kind of a big gap, and by
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock I might be starving, okay, but I just
<v Speaker 2>am like, no, you had enough to eat your window, Sherry,
<v Speaker 2>You're fine. You're not gonna start death. You're gonna go
<v Speaker 2>to sleep, and once you're a sleep, you're not gonna
<v Speaker 2>know if you're hungry.
<v Speaker 1>And so happens last night.
<v Speaker 2>And I just had a taco salad and a popsicle,
<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't a big window. But I often don't
<v Speaker 2>have a really big window On Mondays. I tend to
<v Speaker 2>have sort of an uppish day On Tuesdays, I thought,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I really didn't eat much. I didn't eat
<v Speaker 2>a lot of week work. This weekend it was busy.
<v Speaker 2>I could get up and eat something. But then I
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, you're just gonna go to sleep.
<v Speaker 2>You'll be fine. And I slept like a rock. My
<v Speaker 2>deep sleep was amazing, and I woke up this morning
<v Speaker 2>without a twinge of hunger.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So some of its mindset. It really is
<v Speaker 1>like the whole idea of am I going to be
<v Speaker 1>able to sleep because I'm hungry? And then if you
<v Speaker 1>get anxious about it, that will be the reason you
<v Speaker 1>can't sleep. Is the anxiety about it but yeah, I
<v Speaker 1>slept perfectly fine. It was fine, and usually like I'm
<v Speaker 1>already asleep by the time I have time to be
<v Speaker 1>hungry again. But it just was that particular night. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>But over time, you really learn, like, and I think
<v Speaker 2>a lot of hunger two people experience. And I tell
<v Speaker 2>people this is I call it rebound hunger. Like I know,
<v Speaker 2>about four hours after I close my window, I'm going
<v Speaker 2>to feel hungry again.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I.
<v Speaker 2>Think it's because my stomach was a transit time. Now
<v Speaker 2>my stomach is empty. Yeah, and my stomach starts to
<v Speaker 2>make little hunger gurgle sounds and I think, oh, maybe
<v Speaker 2>I'm hungry, but it's really just that my stomach's empty.
<v Speaker 2>And then I get the same feeling about eight hours
<v Speaker 2>into me too. Window, you know, like overnights, about eight
<v Speaker 2>hours after I closed my window. I really struggle getting
<v Speaker 2>off work Monday morning because my window's been closed for
<v Speaker 2>about eight hours. And it would be so easy. I mean,
<v Speaker 2>I stop and get my husband breakfast all the time,
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh, I could eat right now, but
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, but I'm just gonna go home and take
<v Speaker 2>a nap and I'll be fine. And sure enough, I
<v Speaker 2>didn't open my window last night. Yesterday was Monday, and
<v Speaker 2>I stopped and got on breakfast and he said, to
<v Speaker 2>what you get, I'm like, I didn't get anything. I'm
<v Speaker 2>not eating, taking a nap. I don't need food.
<v Speaker 1>I was fine.
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't open my window till like six o'clock
<v Speaker 2>last night, and I was just like an open and
<v Speaker 2>closed thing. And I went about my day.
<v Speaker 1>So I reminded myself that hunger is not an emergency.
<v Speaker 1>Good job, Jen, thank you, thank you. And I went
<v Speaker 1>to bed and I was fine. So I don't like
<v Speaker 1>to go to bed hungry, but it's just very rare
<v Speaker 1>that it happens. Yeah, So now we have a question
<v Speaker 1>from a listener. This is shar from Utah. She says,
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing clean fasting for over a year and
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing ADF for over a month. I started
<v Speaker 1>in February of twenty twenty four. Before that, I had
<v Speaker 1>been trying IF without the Clean Fast, and as we
<v Speaker 1>all know, the clean Fast is a game changer. I
<v Speaker 1>have had success, but the weight loss is slow because
<v Speaker 1>of menopause. I think I have had a lot of
<v Speaker 1>the stumbling blocks that both you and Sherry have experienced.
<v Speaker 1>And I can't thank you enough for helping me through
<v Speaker 1>the hard part to loving fasting. Fasting is my superpower
<v Speaker 1>for feeling amazing and no more diet brain. I would
<v Speaker 1>love more advice for any more tweaking for weight loss,
<v Speaker 1>but I think more patience is in order. I had
<v Speaker 1>my gall bladder out and I'm having a teaspoon of
<v Speaker 1>the cilium husk and water before I break my fast,
<v Speaker 1>which helps me so much. It also took me a
<v Speaker 1>while to flip the switch because I would get so
<v Speaker 1>shaky and have a headache and felt I needed to
<v Speaker 1>break the fast to stop dizziness. Putting salt under my
<v Speaker 1>tongue worked and not guzzling water because also like Shery,
<v Speaker 1>my body doesn't hold onto electrolytes. I was having bad
<v Speaker 1>leg cramps at night, and since using a fast safe
<v Speaker 1>electrolyte that has stopped. I have been doing eightyf for
<v Speaker 1>over two months now to budget the scale. I was
<v Speaker 1>stuck at two o two after losing twenty pounds over
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years going up and down, and I've
<v Speaker 1>been maintaining my weight at one ninety five. I'm female,
<v Speaker 1>fifty one and five foot seven. I would love to
<v Speaker 1>get to one sixty. But even when I was doing
<v Speaker 1>weight Watchers and eating like a bird, I barely touched
<v Speaker 1>one sixty nine and my went right back up to
<v Speaker 1>one seventies one eighties. I wonder if I'm scared to
<v Speaker 1>hit my goal, afraid I'll just gain the weight bag.
<v Speaker 1>I love sharing with others how great I feel, but
<v Speaker 1>I wish I looked more like I feel I feel.
<v Speaker 1>I stay on my plan most of the month and
<v Speaker 1>feel great, and then have a few bad days each
<v Speaker 1>month that get me down bad meaning I emotionally eat
<v Speaker 1>because of stress, and although fasting is helping me curb
<v Speaker 1>my cravings those few days, I feel it is it's
<v Speaker 1>likely causing me to gain the weight I lost. Also,
<v Speaker 1>I have food sensitivities to chocolate and dairy, and my
<v Speaker 1>cravings come from wanting those foods that I need to avoid.
<v Speaker 1>I have healed my gut and I feel better eating
<v Speaker 1>all the formerly forbidden foods, but sometimes I still have
<v Speaker 1>breakouts into itching. But now I don't know if it's
<v Speaker 1>the food I'm eating or related to my perioral dermatitis.
<v Speaker 1>Another question I have is that I haven't heard you
<v Speaker 1>talk about donating blood. I used to do it all
<v Speaker 1>the time, but the last two times I've donated, I
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel well for about a day afterwards. The first
<v Speaker 1>time I donated blood, I had a daily eating window.
<v Speaker 1>The second time I gave blood, I didn't fast the
<v Speaker 1>day before or the day I went, and although I
<v Speaker 1>wasn't as sick, I was still not feeling great for
<v Speaker 1>about a day. I was wondering if you have any recommendations,
<v Speaker 1>or if the change in needing more time to recover
<v Speaker 1>has more to do with age. I know I will
<v Speaker 1>fast forever for the benefits, because even when I have
<v Speaker 1>a bad over eating day, I don't give up, and
<v Speaker 1>I just start again the next day, knowing my fasting
<v Speaker 1>superpower is there. Thank you for all that you both do. Okay,
<v Speaker 1>let's see, so lots to unpack, lots to unpack here.
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you start in February twenty twenty four.
<v Speaker 2>You were clean fasting for over a year. You don't
<v Speaker 2>really share what your daily eating window was when you
<v Speaker 2>were doing that, like a daily eating window approach, like
<v Speaker 2>prior to switching to ADF. So it's hard for me
<v Speaker 2>to know what's going on ADF for over two months
<v Speaker 2>and you don't really share what's happening with your weight
<v Speaker 2>since right that same question, it's hard for me to know,
<v Speaker 2>like are you not seeing weight loss after doing ADF
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned having a mental block, like do you think
<v Speaker 2>that you're afraid to reach your goal size? And this
<v Speaker 2>is very true for a lot of people. Fat can
<v Speaker 2>be protective physically as we age. You know, it's healthy
<v Speaker 2>to carry a little body fat, but sometimes carrying body
<v Speaker 2>fat is emotionally protective for whatever reason. Sometimes, especially as women,
<v Speaker 2>we've had negative experiences when we're younger, you know, especially
<v Speaker 2>with the opposite sex or sexual assault, things like that.
<v Speaker 2>This happens very frequently, and people put this sort of
<v Speaker 2>coat of fat on to feel protected, to not feel noticed.
<v Speaker 2>And then even as women, sometimes we're so afraid of
<v Speaker 2>failure and we think we have to be perfect. So
<v Speaker 2>sometimes we're like, oh, well, what happens if I get
<v Speaker 2>to my goal weight and then I can't maintain it,
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll be a failure and then people will
<v Speaker 2>look at me as a failure. And I've seen this happen,
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sharing things that a lot of people
<v Speaker 2>have shared with us over the years, and I understand
<v Speaker 2>all of those things. And you know, because of that,
<v Speaker 2>I think I would really it and explore that, and
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe journal about it and really exploring what
<v Speaker 2>would happen if you got to your goal weight, how
<v Speaker 2>would you feel at your goal weight, and what would
<v Speaker 2>be the worst thing that happened if you couldn't maintain
<v Speaker 2>a weight that you wanted to maintain, and really just
<v Speaker 2>kind of explore your thoughts and feelings on that, because
<v Speaker 2>I think working through that would be really beneficial for you.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times people self sabotage for many, many
<v Speaker 2>reasons and they don't even really realize they're doing it,
<v Speaker 2>and you know, for that reason alone, that's where I
<v Speaker 2>think community really comes in. And you also mentioned that
<v Speaker 2>you are an emotional eater, and so you know, my
<v Speaker 2>two suggestions for that, for both the emotional eating and
<v Speaker 2>also kind of working through why maybe you might self sabotage.
<v Speaker 2>Therapy can be amazing for everybody. I feel like having
<v Speaker 2>an outside party challenge your thoughts and ideas can really
<v Speaker 2>help you process them and maybe learn faulty thoughts that
<v Speaker 2>you keep telling yourself that are holding you back and
<v Speaker 2>help you teach you to, you know, have more positive thoughts.
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people get hung up on these faulty
<v Speaker 2>thoughts till they believe them, and until somebody challenges that
<v Speaker 2>and helps you see that you're thinking is flawed or
<v Speaker 2>not serving you, then we just get stuck in that pattern.
<v Speaker 1>So you've got to break that cycle.
<v Speaker 2>And so you know, therapy is an option or join
<v Speaker 2>our community. It's much cheaper than therapy. And what we
<v Speaker 2>don't claim to be therapists. That's what group support is.
<v Speaker 2>It is people who identify with your problems and offer solutions,
<v Speaker 2>offer different mindset tweaks, offer different perspectives, and then watching
<v Speaker 2>other people overcome the same issues that you're having can
<v Speaker 2>be really really encouraging and motivating for you. And our
<v Speaker 2>community is like a family. We know everybody in there.
<v Speaker 2>If you're in the community and we don't know you,
<v Speaker 2>it's because you're not putting yourself out there in the community.
<v Speaker 1>That's true.
<v Speaker 2>People that are posting day after day, week after week,
<v Speaker 2>year after year. We know these people. We feel like
<v Speaker 2>we know them. We know about their lives, we know
<v Speaker 2>about their families, their kids, who's getting married, whose mom
<v Speaker 2>just passed away. I mean, we're a big family, and so.
<v Speaker 1>Come join us. We can work through these things. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that's where you find it. It's also linked in the
<v Speaker 1>show notes. But it's true. We do know we know
<v Speaker 1>who has struggle with nuts. You know who you are
<v Speaker 1>listening right now, Yes, we do. Or the thing is
<v Speaker 1>is that you post your struggle, like you said, you
<v Speaker 1>have trouble with dairy and chocolate and you're overeating them.
<v Speaker 1>Share that. Then someone else will come and give you advice.
<v Speaker 2>Right like I canna tell you right now, try carab
<v Speaker 2>if you're allergic to chocolate, right. A lot of people
<v Speaker 2>who like my son was allergic to dairy and he
<v Speaker 2>wasn't supposed to have chocolate, and so he would have
<v Speaker 2>things with carab and carib chips instead. So there's always
<v Speaker 2>brainstorming that takes place in the community, and we can.
<v Speaker 1>Help you with that.
<v Speaker 2>And you know a lot of that craving things that
<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to avoid because you're allergitim you might have
<v Speaker 2>some rebel tendencies. Yeah, that sounds like a rebel to me.
<v Speaker 2>And so you know, my suggestion for that is go
<v Speaker 2>to the Four Tendencies Gretchen Ruben's Four Tendencies quiz. Figure
<v Speaker 2>out your personality type. You know, like Jenna and I
<v Speaker 2>know we're both questioners. There's a lot of people who
<v Speaker 2>come to us for help, and I rafp the bat.
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, they're an obliger. Yeah, And you know,
<v Speaker 2>they're the people who are really great at making commitments
<v Speaker 2>to other people and keeping them, but they don't make
<v Speaker 2>commitments to themself.
<v Speaker 1>And that's where group check ins are so powerful.
<v Speaker 2>Right, So I think just getting to know yourself better
<v Speaker 2>can be really helpful. And yeah, you said something about
<v Speaker 2>perioral dermatitis, but then I'm wondering when you said you
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's perioral dermatitis, that's not usually affected
<v Speaker 2>by the food you're eating. So then I was wondering
<v Speaker 2>if you really meant oral allergy syndrome like my son has,
<v Speaker 2>which can be a cross reaction to other foods that
<v Speaker 2>you're allergic to. But if you're really talking about pueririe
<v Speaker 2>oral dermatitised, that shouldn't affect your whole body. That's just
<v Speaker 2>like around your mouth and on your face. And I
<v Speaker 2>am just going to throw out a hint. I gave
<v Speaker 2>up fluoride in my toothpaste years ago and I have
<v Speaker 2>never ever had a perioral dermatitis breakout again.
<v Speaker 1>Now that is so interesting. I had perioraled armetitis back
<v Speaker 1>in the day, early in my twenties, and I don't
<v Speaker 1>use fluoride in my toethpaste either, so I use that
<v Speaker 1>roy Yeah whatever, whatever it's felt my dentists. I just
<v Speaker 1>went to the dentist. I finally found a dentist here.
<v Speaker 1>I had been too long since I've been to the dentists.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't like dentists or new dentist. Sorry, dentists
<v Speaker 1>out there listening. You're nice, You're lovely people. I really
<v Speaker 1>don't like going to the dentist, but I found a
<v Speaker 1>lovely dentnists. I love my new dentist. I'm so glad.
<v Speaker 1>But they were like thumbs up with the hydroxya pop
<v Speaker 1>whatever say it? Say it again?
<v Speaker 2>I call it the time is half spelled that I've
<v Speaker 2>never heard anybody say it, so I could be saying
<v Speaker 2>it wrong. Full disclaimer. Sometimes I mispronounced words. The funny
<v Speaker 2>thing is that, you know, I listened to a lot
<v Speaker 2>of audiobooks and I'll hear them mispronounced words, and.
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, it's everybody does it. We all do it.
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, and they're getting paid a lot of money.
<v Speaker 2>To read a book and yeah, that past editing, So
<v Speaker 2>I don't even feel bad, right right, So then you
<v Speaker 2>talked about donating blood. Donating blood should not make you
<v Speaker 2>feel poorly.
<v Speaker 1>Really, it should not. It should not at all.
<v Speaker 2>The only reason I could see that you would feel
<v Speaker 2>poorly after donating blood is if you're anemic, and they
<v Speaker 2>should be checking that before you donate blood. And the
<v Speaker 2>only other reason that you would feel poorly is if
<v Speaker 2>you are not replenishing fluids and electrolytes after donating blood.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they don't take that much blood, they really don't.
<v Speaker 1>And she wasn't fasting the day before or the date
<v Speaker 1>this last time, and she still felt bad.
<v Speaker 2>I think she felt bad when she went two days
<v Speaker 2>without fasting, yeah, because she wasn't getting into katosisy and
<v Speaker 2>she was getting that sluggish, no energy fatigue feeling that
<v Speaker 2>we get when we don't fast.
<v Speaker 1>That's at a great guess there.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So, I mean we have people who fast
<v Speaker 2>who donate blood all the time, and I have never
<v Speaker 2>ever heard anybody say that they feel unwell after donating blood.
<v Speaker 1>Fasting made it likely that they felt worse. That's what
<v Speaker 1>we don't hear. And there are things we do here
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Like we know that, yeah, you could
<v Speaker 1>have high cholesterol for a while if you're fasting. We
<v Speaker 1>know if you're on blood plood pressure medicine that can
<v Speaker 1>make you dizzy. But this is not a thing we
<v Speaker 1>hear a lot, right, and we think we would. We would.
<v Speaker 2>The reason they give you fluids and snacks after you
<v Speaker 2>donate blood is because they want to make sure you're
<v Speaker 2>not hypoglycemic when you leave, and they want to help
<v Speaker 2>reflenish your fluids so that you don't pass out. And
<v Speaker 2>so as long as after you're donating blood, you're eating
<v Speaker 2>and rehydrating, and donating blood should not make you feel poorly.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it has anything to do with
<v Speaker 2>fasting other than the time that you didn't fast for
<v Speaker 2>two days and then I think it's because you didn't
<v Speaker 2>fast that you didn't feel well.
<v Speaker 1>That's just my guess. And just because people always ask shery,
<v Speaker 1>just what do we tell people about donating blood in
<v Speaker 1>the fasted state? What do you answer that question? Because
<v Speaker 1>you know we get it a lot.
<v Speaker 2>Follow the advice of the blood donation center that you
<v Speaker 2>are donating at.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my.
<v Speaker 2>Best advice is schedule your blood donation during your eating
<v Speaker 2>window time.
<v Speaker 1>Easy, busy, then you don't have to stress.
<v Speaker 2>Right yep, So schedule it sometime when it's your eating window.
<v Speaker 2>Schedule at the end of the afternoon, right before you
<v Speaker 2>open your window. Take your own snacks. You don't have
<v Speaker 2>to eat the processed peanut butter crackers they give you.
<v Speaker 2>Take your own snacks. Take some yogurt and nuts.
<v Speaker 1>Personally, I would eat before going, then donate blood, then
<v Speaker 1>have my snack. That's what I would do. Yeah, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I haven't.
<v Speaker 2>I've donated blood. I actually did it fasted in the
<v Speaker 2>middle of it, fasted state. Really, they were doing a
<v Speaker 2>blood drive at work, and that meant I got to
<v Speaker 2>take an hour paid.
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, sure, don but you were fast
<v Speaker 1>and you were just fine. That was fast, and I
<v Speaker 1>was fine.
<v Speaker 2>But I'm an experience faster and I keep up with
<v Speaker 2>my electrolytes. So I think that's probably why I didn't
<v Speaker 2>notice the difference.
<v Speaker 1>And you felt perfectly fine. I felt perfectly fine. We've
<v Speaker 1>heard that too, people fat who donate in the fastest state,
<v Speaker 1>But I would not like say that's everybody should be
<v Speaker 1>just fine to donating the fastest state, because you might not.
<v Speaker 2>Be Yeah, And I'm just gonna say too, there could
<v Speaker 2>be a little psychosomatic thing here that's with me. If
<v Speaker 2>you think you're gonna feel bad, you'll probably are gonna
<v Speaker 2>feel bad. Yeah, I'm just that's human nature. I see
<v Speaker 2>this all the time in the er. We feel how
<v Speaker 2>we think we're going to feel a lot of times.
<v Speaker 2>So if you think you're going to be scared of
<v Speaker 2>a procedure test, you're going to be scared of the
<v Speaker 2>procedure a test. So anyway, ask for ADF and trying
<v Speaker 2>to budge your weight. I mean, my best goal right
<v Speaker 2>now is to tell you get a fasting insulin test,
<v Speaker 2>see what your fasting insulin is. At the same time,
<v Speaker 2>get a blood glucose test. A fasting blood glucose test.
<v Speaker 2>These are two different tests. One's testing the amount of
<v Speaker 2>glucose in your blood. One is testing the amount of
<v Speaker 2>circulating insulin in your body. There, you can do a
<v Speaker 2>homer Ir score. It's a calculator online Homa dash Ir.
<v Speaker 2>It's going to give you your insulin resistance score. If
<v Speaker 2>you're really really insulin resistant and you're not seeing weight loss,
<v Speaker 2>you're probably really going to need to tweak your food choices.
<v Speaker 2>And ADF is also going to be great if you're
<v Speaker 2>not sure if you're doing ADF correctly. Get Jen's second
<v Speaker 2>edition of Delay Don't Deny. She goes into great detail
<v Speaker 2>on how to do ADF correctly. And the fact that
<v Speaker 2>you have done weight watchers eating like a bird, you
<v Speaker 2>probably have really lowered your metabolic rate. So I think
<v Speaker 2>it's great that you're doing ADF to get that metabolic boost,
<v Speaker 2>but you want to make sure that you're doing it
<v Speaker 2>right so that you are getting that metabolic boost. And yeah,
<v Speaker 2>that's I think I covered everything. Did I miss anything?
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I want to add is that variable
<v Speaker 1>of menopause. Well that too. We know that most women
<v Speaker 1>gain weight over the menopausal transition. That's just part of
<v Speaker 1>the hormonal changes of being a woman. Most women gain
<v Speaker 1>weight over the menopausal transition, even women who have not
<v Speaker 1>struggled with their weight, Women who have maintained the same
<v Speaker 1>weight their whole adult life with no struggle. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>that's not us. But if there are women like that
<v Speaker 1>out there, they start putting on weight without changing anything
<v Speaker 1>because of the hormonal changes. So it can be seen
<v Speaker 1>as a victory to just be maintaining instead of gaining
<v Speaker 1>and I know if weight loss is your goal, so
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to hear that, You're like, I don't
<v Speaker 1>want to hear that I want to lose weight. But
<v Speaker 1>if you would be gaining weight, but you're not because
<v Speaker 1>intermittent fasting is helping you not gain weight, that is
<v Speaker 1>actually a positive. So I have to be more mindful
<v Speaker 1>with my food choices after menopause than before menopause, you know.
<v Speaker 1>And I just happened to live for, you know, five
<v Speaker 1>years as an intermittent faster before I went through menopause,
<v Speaker 1>and so I do know that after menopause, I've had
<v Speaker 1>to be more careful. I can't be quiet as Lucy Goosey,
<v Speaker 1>can't have ice cream quite as often. I had ice
<v Speaker 1>cream last night though, Sherri it. It was delicious. If you
<v Speaker 1>want some good ice cream, I'll take you to a
<v Speaker 1>good place. Okay, I'm always down for good ice cream.
<v Speaker 1>Cup and cone, everybody who's listening, that's the name of it.
<v Speaker 1>But it's here in serf side. But you may need
<v Speaker 1>to really tighten things up a bit. And those few
<v Speaker 1>days that you're having challenges each month, no matter what
<v Speaker 1>your plan is, if you're having a few days that
<v Speaker 1>don't go according to plan. That could be just enough
<v Speaker 1>to keep you maintaining versus tightening it up might be
<v Speaker 1>what you need. And again that menopausal transition changes things.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and let me just say like it doesn't have
<v Speaker 2>to be complicated. From all the reading I do on menopause,
<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of reading. I do a lot
<v Speaker 2>of reading about hormones and how menopause affects our fat storage.
<v Speaker 2>And I just recently read the average woman gains between
<v Speaker 2>five to ten pounds during the menopausal transition. Now, this
<v Speaker 2>can start at forty. It can take ten years to transition.
<v Speaker 2>Perimenopause can start at forty. You can start in the
<v Speaker 2>late thirties. And then the average age of menopause is
<v Speaker 2>fifty two.
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was. Is it fifty one? I think
<v Speaker 1>because I saw fifty two. When I went through it,
<v Speaker 1>I was fifty one, and I may have changed this. Well,
<v Speaker 1>it could be later, but when I went through it,
<v Speaker 1>it happened was fifty one. Well, that would be later.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're checking it. It's fifty one.
<v Speaker 2>Well, see this says fifty two nationalands two and aging.
<v Speaker 1>Well, see when I googled it, it says fifty one. Anyway, okay,
<v Speaker 1>right around there. Oh, I see that the Cleveland clinic
<v Speaker 1>says fifty two. Yeah, and another that it.
<v Speaker 2>Is happening earlier and earlier.
<v Speaker 1>The Mayo Clinic says fifty one in the United States. Yeah.
<v Speaker 1>So anyways, she's right there. Anyway. See, we're questioners, everybody.
<v Speaker 1>This is what questioners do. We look it up the answers.
<v Speaker 1>We have to know. I gotta know, well, which is it?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and then two pounds per year after is what
<v Speaker 2>I've read. So if you are maintaining you're ahead of
<v Speaker 2>the curve, it's true, and you're a head of the curve.
<v Speaker 2>And we only fight our bodies so much, so at
<v Speaker 2>some point you have to just accept this is where
<v Speaker 2>we're at. I'm going to make the boast of it.
<v Speaker 2>But you know, lean proteins, high fiber, lots of fruits
<v Speaker 2>and veggies, high fiber grains, real food, cut out your
<v Speaker 2>ultra processed foods, really reduce your sugar intake, reduce your
<v Speaker 2>alcohol intake. Your body does not process alcohol well after
<v Speaker 2>menopause at all, and it can cause more damage to
<v Speaker 2>your liver after menopause, especially if you are on estradile
<v Speaker 2>hormone replacement. Oh really, yep I recently read that another
<v Speaker 2>good reason that I quit drinking yep ye. So anyway,
<v Speaker 2>food quality, make sure you do an ADF correctly, join
<v Speaker 2>the community, and or you know, check out some CBT
<v Speaker 2>therapy to see if you can't figure out what's holding
<v Speaker 2>yourself back. It's going to help teach you to how
<v Speaker 2>to handle stress without turning to food as a coping mechanism.
<v Speaker 2>So and I think you'll see great changes.
<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for our segment called What's Your Why.
<v Speaker 1>Most of us begin with weight loss in mind, but
<v Speaker 1>it's time for us to think deeper than just weight loss. Right,
<v Speaker 1>weight loss is definitely something we we're looking for, but
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely believe that when your why is bigger than that,
<v Speaker 1>like Sherry's parents who started for brain help, you're more
<v Speaker 1>likely to find long term success and view internet and
<v Speaker 1>fasting as a lifestyle.
<v Speaker 2>And this week we have a why from Sally in Alabama.
<v Speaker 2>My why is to not be diabetic, to improve my energy,
<v Speaker 2>to keep up with my five grandchildren, and to live
<v Speaker 2>a productive and healthy life while helping as many people
<v Speaker 2>as I can along the way. I love being able
<v Speaker 2>to help and serve others. I am confident that I
<v Speaker 2>can make adjustments to my window for each day. I
<v Speaker 2>don't worry about cheating or falling off the wagon.
<v Speaker 1>I love that, all right.
<v Speaker 2>So we have a question from Alisa in Ventura, California.
<v Speaker 2>She says, Hi, I'm so very sorry if this has
<v Speaker 2>been answered before. I have been clean fasting for one
<v Speaker 2>hundred days now, and I'm loving how I'm feeling and
<v Speaker 2>the changes I am seeing. I have lost fifteen pounds,
<v Speaker 2>but more importantly, I feel more comfortable in my own
<v Speaker 2>skin and have more confidence in myself. I am a
<v Speaker 2>nurse and my schedule of life is kind of crazy
<v Speaker 2>and need some flexibility. I was wondering is it more
<v Speaker 2>important to keep the window timing or the fasting timing?
<v Speaker 2>For example, I like to fast eighteen to nineteen hours,
<v Speaker 2>but some days I eat a later dinner with my
<v Speaker 2>husband after work, so my eating window ends up being
<v Speaker 2>longer than the five or six hours. But then the
<v Speaker 2>next day I will wait the eighteen or nineteen hours
<v Speaker 2>to eat. Is this hurting my progress in any way?
<v Speaker 2>Should I worry more about the eating window timing or
<v Speaker 2>the fasting length?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the question you're asking is is this hurting
<v Speaker 1>my progress in any way, And the answer to that
<v Speaker 1>is yes or no. It depends, right if you are
<v Speaker 1>over eating in a window, because your window is longer,
<v Speaker 1>so you end up eating more within it than it's
<v Speaker 1>going to hurt your weight loss progress. Like for me,
<v Speaker 1>I am a volume eater, and for me, I needed
<v Speaker 1>to keep my eye on my eating window. An eating
<v Speaker 1>window of five hours or less for weight loss worked
<v Speaker 1>really well because it was easier for me to keep
<v Speaker 1>an eye on how much fear I was eating in
<v Speaker 1>five hours or less, Whereas if my window stretches to six, seven,
<v Speaker 1>eight hours, it's more likely that I over eight And
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to lose weight if you are over
<v Speaker 1>eating in a window, so you know, is the fast
<v Speaker 1>important Yes. If we don't fast long enough, then we
<v Speaker 1>won't ever have time to go into fat burning, So
<v Speaker 1>they're both important, is really the answer. Should we worry
<v Speaker 1>about the eating window yes? Should you worry about the
<v Speaker 1>length of your fast, yes, But usually you have to
<v Speaker 1>figure out what is easiest for you to keep your
<v Speaker 1>eye on. For me, it was the eating window length.
<v Speaker 1>So like if you know that you're going to eat
<v Speaker 1>a later dinner with your husband after work, you probably
<v Speaker 1>know that ahead of time, and so that would be
<v Speaker 1>the time to shift your window opening until later, if
<v Speaker 1>you can do that so that you'll still have that
<v Speaker 1>boundary of your eating window length. Okay, and again it
<v Speaker 1>just really depends, you know, is that stretching your window
<v Speaker 1>to be six hours or is it stretching it to
<v Speaker 1>be nine. So that's a lot of difference there. You know,
<v Speaker 1>a six hour window not going to be a giant, huge,
<v Speaker 1>big deal that happened every now and then. But if
<v Speaker 1>a couple times a week you're stretching to nine hours
<v Speaker 1>because of your schedule, that's probably going to be an issue.
<v Speaker 1>So it just really that question is that they're both
<v Speaker 1>important and you have to figure out with your schedule
<v Speaker 1>what matters most for you. Like I never keep an
<v Speaker 1>eye on the length of my fast just because I
<v Speaker 1>just tied my window. I try to slide it around
<v Speaker 1>so that it works well for me.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if we had really regimented schedules you
<v Speaker 2>could really keep track of both. If you were to
<v Speaker 2>eat at the same time, If every day you ate
<v Speaker 2>from three to seven, and then a few days you
<v Speaker 2>just extended it to nine, you know, maybe that wouldn't
<v Speaker 2>be probably be a big problem, right, But number one,
<v Speaker 2>we don't want to lock in like that. Our bodies
<v Speaker 2>adapt more easily when we lock into a very rigid
<v Speaker 2>schedule like that. So some flexibility is great, but we
<v Speaker 2>get caught up in like trying to monitor the fast
<v Speaker 2>length and the window time, and it can just get
<v Speaker 2>really confusing. And for me, with my variable schedule working
<v Speaker 2>night shifts and you know, my husband being off one
<v Speaker 2>day during the week or whatever, I would drive myself
<v Speaker 2>crazy trying to track both.
<v Speaker 1>And I used to do it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is so much easier to just track.
<v Speaker 1>My window length.
<v Speaker 2>And you may wonder, like why would having a longer
<v Speaker 2>window a few days a week. Well, when you're eating
<v Speaker 2>five or six hours each day and you're getting into
<v Speaker 2>fat burning by doing that, six hours tends to be
<v Speaker 2>a little bit on the longer side. Most people really
<v Speaker 2>need about a four to five hour eating window unless
<v Speaker 2>you just don't eat a lot of volume in your window.
<v Speaker 2>If you're a very light eater, you can probably get
<v Speaker 2>away with six hours. But if I had a six
<v Speaker 2>hour window every single day over time, my body would
<v Speaker 2>not shift into fat burning as easily. And I've experienced
<v Speaker 2>those experiences during COVID. Working crazy long hours and having
<v Speaker 2>kind of unpredictable windows at work, I actually realized I
<v Speaker 2>was no longer shifting into fat burning daily, and I
<v Speaker 2>had to really tighten things up. So if you're doing
<v Speaker 2>five to six hours, you're kind of righting the edge anyways.
<v Speaker 2>And then if once or twice a week you're extending
<v Speaker 2>that to eight or nine hours, you're really impacting your
<v Speaker 2>body's ability to burn through that glycogen efficiently and shift
<v Speaker 2>into fat burning. So you may think, oh, having this
<v Speaker 2>nine hour window twice a week isn't going to hurt me,
<v Speaker 2>but it actually can. And it may not show up
<v Speaker 2>next week or the next week, but it could show
<v Speaker 2>up over time. So that's just something to think about.
<v Speaker 2>I always like to think of my liver as a
<v Speaker 2>gas tank, and I want to keep it empty exactly.
<v Speaker 1>That's a good way of putting it. And again, there
<v Speaker 1>might be somebody they can have a daily eight hour
<v Speaker 1>window and they're eat light as a bird and they
<v Speaker 1>shift into fat burning or they're very very active, right,
<v Speaker 1>and you need eight our windows. So when we say
<v Speaker 1>like most people, you know, four to five hour window,
<v Speaker 1>that's people who like to eat big meals like us
<v Speaker 1>like I'm much party eater. Yeah, I do not eat
<v Speaker 1>like a bird, and so that's why I needed more
<v Speaker 1>of a boundary on my eating window, whereas somebody else,
<v Speaker 1>if you only eat within four hours, you know, you
<v Speaker 1>only can get a little tiny bit of food. Over
<v Speaker 1>that time, you might need seven And that's why there
<v Speaker 1>is no one size fits all way of doing this. Yeah, okay,
<v Speaker 1>we have time for one more question. This is Virginia
<v Speaker 1>from Australia. Hello, Virginia. From one Virginia to another. A
<v Speaker 1>funny story, Sherry, when I started teaching in Carrollton and
<v Speaker 1>nobody knew who I was. I was new to the community.
<v Speaker 1>I've only been teaching for like ten years. But they
<v Speaker 1>saw that their teacher was Virginia Stevens and they're like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna be really old, like the name Virginia, and
<v Speaker 1>like that was like, what, Virginia's not an old name anyway.
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that was funny. I like the name Virginia.
<v Speaker 1>I think it's nice. But do you don't think it's
<v Speaker 1>an old name? Do you?
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I would think so. Okay, well, I've
<v Speaker 2>never known anybody named Virginia except for you. Okay, Well,
<v Speaker 2>you know what I've noticed. There's a lot of though
<v Speaker 2>they're like, it may be more of a southern name.
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. Well, I think it's lovely. Virginia
<v Speaker 1>from Australia. I don't meet a lot of Virginia's, but
<v Speaker 1>I love when I do. So Virginia says, thanks Jen
<v Speaker 1>and Sherry for a great podcast. I learned so much
<v Speaker 1>from them. I apologize in advance that this has been
<v Speaker 1>asked before. You don't need to apologize, Virginia, because we
<v Speaker 1>really have heard it all. It's very rare that we
<v Speaker 1>hear something we haven't heard before, right, Yep, it does
<v Speaker 1>happen sometimes, actually, yeah, But never apologize because just because
<v Speaker 1>we've said it before, it doesn't mean that you have
<v Speaker 1>heard it before. So Virginia said, I go for a
<v Speaker 1>morning walk every day, and I usually stop for a coffee.
<v Speaker 1>After realizing late last year that I was breaking my
<v Speaker 1>fast by having a cappuccino, I switched to a long black,
<v Speaker 1>which I'm really enjoying. Now. My question is should I
<v Speaker 1>be assuming that because I'm having a long Black at
<v Speaker 1>these cafes, that I'm drinking pure coffee and therefore not
<v Speaker 1>breaking my fast, or should I be checking with them
<v Speaker 1>about the ingredients in their coffee. We don't always stop
<v Speaker 1>at the same cafe. When I'm at home and fasting,
<v Speaker 1>I have a black coffee which states it's one hundred
<v Speaker 1>percent coffee, so I'm safe there. Can I answer this first? Cherry? Sure?
<v Speaker 1>Did you see when Jenny? Yes? I did. Were you
<v Speaker 1>gonna say that? Yes? Is the answer? Okay, well, I'll
<v Speaker 1>just let me say it. Go ahead.
<v Speaker 2>Well, so here's the thing. If you're ordering this from
<v Speaker 2>a coffee shop, like a real coffee shop, I'm not
<v Speaker 2>talking fast food whatever, a real coffee shop. A long
<v Speaker 2>black is kind of a reverse Americano. So an Americano
<v Speaker 2>they pour pure espresso in a cup and they top
<v Speaker 2>it with water. Along black is basically hot water with
<v Speaker 2>an espresso poured over the top of it. And when
<v Speaker 2>you do it that way, you get like a layer
<v Speaker 2>of crema on top, which is not cream. It's just foam,
<v Speaker 2>foamy coffee. So anyway, should it be fast safe. Absolutely?
<v Speaker 2>But somebody recently in our community who works at McDonald's
<v Speaker 2>made a post and wanted to share with people that
<v Speaker 2>if you go to McDonald's and you ask for an
<v Speaker 2>iced coffee.
<v Speaker 1>With black ice, the way.
<v Speaker 2>Well, she didn't say black.
<v Speaker 1>She just said, if you asked for an iced okay,
<v Speaker 1>a plane plane.
<v Speaker 2>The ice coffee doesn't have any cream or anything in it, right,
<v Speaker 2>And I love their iced coffee. It's actually a really
<v Speaker 2>good iced coffee. It's a great option when you're out
<v Speaker 2>running around you want a little something. But I learned
<v Speaker 2>the hard way, and she shared a if you go
<v Speaker 2>and you ask for an iced coffee, it has sugar
<v Speaker 2>syrup in it, So you have to say black iced coffee,
<v Speaker 2>no sugar, no cream. Just every time you order a drink,
<v Speaker 2>make sure you say that because you have no idea.
<v Speaker 2>Like to me, an iced coffee should just be coffee.
<v Speaker 1>Over ice unless I say something else.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unless I say I want a iced coffee with sugar,
<v Speaker 2>or I want a sweet iced coffee or whatever, a
<v Speaker 2>creamy ice coffee. But that's not the way it is,
<v Speaker 2>so never assume. Definitely. I just check with your this cafe.
<v Speaker 2>If you're in there all the time, just say, you know,
<v Speaker 2>I just want to make sure this is just like
<v Speaker 2>espresso and water, right, and I'm sure it is. Coffee
<v Speaker 2>houses are very they like their coffee pure, so you're
<v Speaker 2>probably fine.
<v Speaker 1>But it never hurts to check.
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<v Speaker 1>And this week for our tweak of the Week, we
<v Speaker 1>have a tip from Sherry And is this you, Sharry?
<v Speaker 1>Is this tip from you? Yes? I thought it was
<v Speaker 1>because it sounded like you. So this is a tip
<v Speaker 1>from our very own Shary. She said, Often people come
<v Speaker 1>to community after having a hard day for one reason
<v Speaker 1>or another, and they're either coming to share how disappointed
<v Speaker 1>they are with themselves for eating outside of their window,
<v Speaker 1>or for reinforcement not to eat outside of their window.
<v Speaker 1>Sherry has an exercise to share that helps her on
<v Speaker 1>those hard days. Do you want to read it yourself?
<v Speaker 1>Since it's you, make sure go ahead?
<v Speaker 2>So when life is hard, I talked about this a
<v Speaker 2>little bit earlier when mondays, when I get off work
<v Speaker 2>at seven am and I'm exhausted, and I'm emotionally exhausted,
<v Speaker 2>and i am tired, i am hungry, it is really
<v Speaker 2>easy to try to tell myself that I need food.
<v Speaker 2>But the question I use or it could just be
<v Speaker 2>a really hard day. If I'm exhausted from life or stress,
<v Speaker 2>or feeling down or sad or lonely, I ask myself.
<v Speaker 2>If food is not the problem, how can it be
<v Speaker 2>the solution? And that gives me pause, and it gives
<v Speaker 2>me a chance to come up with a better solution
<v Speaker 2>to whatever is preventing me from feeling strong that day.
<v Speaker 2>Am I seeking comfort? If so, I seek it from
<v Speaker 2>a friend or loved one. It doesn't have to be
<v Speaker 2>in person. Sometimes a phone call or a video chat
<v Speaker 2>with a friend is just what you need. Am I
<v Speaker 2>seeking distraction? I'm an ADHD girl. We like to eat
<v Speaker 2>for a distraction, So I just get busy with something else.
<v Speaker 2>Or am I just really hungry and I'm not feeling
<v Speaker 2>up to pushing through the hunger because it's persistent and annoying.
<v Speaker 2>And if that's the case, sometimes I just choose to
<v Speaker 2>have an earlier window and then I plan to make
<v Speaker 2>my evening busy or go to bed early so that
<v Speaker 2>I'm not tempted to reopen after closing earlier. But make
<v Speaker 2>sure you're feeling strong enough to do that, because it
<v Speaker 2>takes some willpower to push through the evening if you
<v Speaker 2>open earlier. But anyways, I just I always ask myself
<v Speaker 2>at that moment, will my choice right now make me
<v Speaker 2>feel strong and proud tonight? Will it fuel my success
<v Speaker 2>and empower me? Or will I then have one more
<v Speaker 2>thing to feel bad about tonight? How about tomorrow morning?
<v Speaker 2>The tomorrow morning question is usually relation to opening my
<v Speaker 2>window or extending it. Will I be mad when I
<v Speaker 2>wake up and I realize I'm not as far fasted
<v Speaker 2>as I usually am, and I'm going to be hungrier
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, and I'm not going to flip the
<v Speaker 2>switches easily the next day, and I'm going to regret
<v Speaker 2>that decision. So having self check ins like this helps
<v Speaker 2>me to make the best choices for myself when the
<v Speaker 2>hard days, and I hope that these tools help you
<v Speaker 2>next time you're having a hard day.
<v Speaker 1>We love to leave our listeners with an inspiration or
<v Speaker 1>motivational quote, and this week we have one from Crystal.
<v Speaker 1>Yesterday was not the best day mentally. I was down
<v Speaker 1>on myself and my confidence. I'm not sure why. As
<v Speaker 1>a result, I ended up opening my window a little
<v Speaker 1>earlier and closing a little later. And she said, my
<v Speaker 1>overall eating was not the worst it could have been,
<v Speaker 1>but I became very full, very fast, and I didn't
<v Speaker 1>care much for wanting to binge once I started eating,
<v Speaker 1>which is actually a huge win for me personally. For that,
<v Speaker 1>I am proud and thankful. Again, it was just old
<v Speaker 1>stuff coming up, but I still closed my window at
<v Speaker 1>a decent time. I know this is part of the process.
<v Speaker 1>I will have these days and need to work through them.
<v Speaker 1>I just need to remember that in the moment instead
<v Speaker 1>of shutting down, I did, however, pick myself up faster
<v Speaker 1>this time, and for that I am grateful and proud.
<v Speaker 1>And here's the quote that she shared that goes with that,
<v Speaker 1>Choosing yourself might be the hardest decision you ever make
<v Speaker 1>because guilt, shame, and fear are powerful gatekeepers. Do it anyway,
<v Speaker 1>You are more powerful than they are, much more. I
<v Speaker 1>love that. I love that too. Thanks so much for
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