Fair Territory: Max Scherzer signs back with Blue Jays, Randal Grichuk to Yankees, Konnor Griffin BUZZ

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal, as you can see here with my friend Alana Rizzo, we are coming to you today. I am at least from Tampa. I was at the Yankees this morning. I was at the Phillies yesterday, the Pirates, the day before that the Blue Jays. Maybe it wasn't quite that order, but you get the idea. It's spring training. And actually, Alana, last night we had some news.

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Speaker 2: We did have some news, and you're all over Florida putting in the miles. You know how that goes. Matt schurzer Ken Going back to the Blue Jays, what do you make of it?

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Speaker 1: It's very interesting move for a team that already has added two starting pitchers this offseason, and actually three if you want to include Shane Bieber who opted in to his deal. They added, of course in free agency, Dylan Ceese and Cody Ponce, and yet the Blue Jays are still trying to add depth. You see the deal there, one year, three million, with ten million dollars in incentives that start at sixty five innings. It's like a million dollars each for ten different levels up to tw one hundred and fifty five innings, So if Max Schurzer pitches, he can earn all of that. But we'll see how that all goes. Schurzer is in a situation where he has been throwing bullpens. He should be ready by opening day, and the question will be which other Blue Jays pitchers are in the mix opening day as well. They're going to have a selection to choose from. You see right here there are eight possible starters. Now, Bieber will not be ready to start the season, but Seies Gossman, You Savage, Burrios, Cody Ponce, Scherzer, Bieber, and Eric Lauer, who has talked about possibly getting traded, or at least that would be his desire. If the Blue Jays cannot create a spot for him in the rotation, perhaps a trade of Laer is coming. Now. Max Scherzer obviously had his choice of teams, and you can say, well, my team could have beat three million dollars, come on, But Scherzer was only going to go to certain teams. He had a great experience in Toronto, of course, as all of their players did last season, so the Blue Jays were where he wanted to go. And now we'll see how they put together their rotation, not just for opening day but the rest of the season. You need more than five, they've got more than five.

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Speaker 2: And a couple of questions for you on this. They need more than five, they have more than five. But what's interesting to me about this is the no trade protection. That's great for sures Er, it's great for his family. Why was that so important? Why do the Blue Jays allow it? And furthermore, could there be a situation in which Max Schuzer could be needed or come out of the bullpen?

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Speaker 1: Alan I wouldn't think he would come out of the bullpen at this age. He's not really done that. Obviously, he could do it. He did in the playoffs for the Dodgers. But he's coming to be a starter. That is who he is, that is what he wants to be. As for the no trade protection, it's a full no trade clause. And my assumption here and I have not spoken to Max about this yet. It's still pending on physical this deal, but my assumption is, Hey, he's signing with Toronto. He doesn't want to go anywhere else. He is at a stage in his career where he doesn't want to be traded at mid season, be a hired gun if he would even be that. Remember, last regular season wasn't great for Max, he was great in the postseason once he was on the roster. Wasn't even on the roster for the division series, so he wants to be there they I'm sure I had no problem giving him that. And obviously, if things fell apart there, which no one expects, and he was pitching well and some team wanted him in the J's for some reason wanted to trade him, would he entertain that. Could he waive the no trade? Yes, but I do not expect it to come to that.

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Speaker 2: Ken, what is the likelihood in your opinion that Eric Lower does actually get traded, especially since he seems to want to be.

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Speaker 1: Good? Question a lot. I don't know. And if I'm the Blue Jays, I I've got the hammer here, I don't have to trade him. I don't have to do anything. I might want him to start out as a longman, a role he served last year and quite well for them. Of course, he saved their rotation too at times with all the injuries that they had. But I want all the depth that I can assemble, all the pitchers that I can have. And this is in contrast to, for instance, the Atlanta Braves, where I wrote about earlier this week. They're looking at a situation where the depth is in a perilous spot. The Jays with their money, and remember they're over the highest luxury tax threshold. So Scherzer it's three million, but he's costing them one hundred and ten percent of that over six million. They seem to have no financial limit this season, So for them, I don't see any particular motivation to trade lower. But if they could get something in return for him, that may be interesting, maybe they would do it.

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Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays spending more than the other twenty nine teams in free agency. Good on them, Ken, What more can you tell us about Randall gridschipt the New York Yankees. You were at Yankees camp earlier.

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Speaker 1: This is a minor league deal and the Yankees have been talking all off season about getting a right handed hitting outfielder. They wanted one that perhaps could enter the lineup on days they want to rest Trent Grisham against lefties, so you would have Cody Bellinger in center. He is one of the best left un left hitters in the game. Judge, of course, would be in right Gritchick and left. Now. Gritschick is not coming off a terribly good season, and perhaps that is why he only received a minor league deal. He has been a guy who in his career has hit lefties well, but didn't really do much of anything last season for Arizona and then Kansas City. He was league average in Arizona, not good at all in Kansas City. So it's a bit of a flyer for the Yankees. At the same time, it's only a minor league deal. If they don't like what they see in spring training, they can just carry Jason Dominguez or do something else to start the season with. This could mean, which was looking like it was going on, happened anyway, Jason Tamingez back in Triple A along with Spencer Jones. The one impressive thing about the Yankees right now, forget their outfield situation, forget what's going on with their young players there. They have depth. Obviously, the depth of their pitching is what is really intriguing. And not just Garrett Cole and Carlos Rudin and hopefully Clarkschmid coming back at some point, but some of their younger arms showing in camp. Legn Hay and Elma Rodriguez I believe is his name. These guys are looking like they can be part of the future for the Yankees, and it's going to be really interesting to see how they soar through it all.

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Speaker 2: Ken, they're turning some heads, but they're not the only one. Connor Griffin, this kid is a sight to behold. I know you just wrote a piece about him, but he's definitely turning heads. What more can you tell us about him?

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Speaker 1: He's the best prospect in baseball, consensus number one prospect, and around the Pirates there is a lot of talk about him, a lot of excitement about him. They believe potentially he could be a unicorn along the lines of Paul Skeins, the hitting version of Paul Skeens. Now that's a lot to ask, obviously, but conn of Griffin is nineteen years old. He is put together physically, he looks like physically a young Cal Ripken. And beyond that, what you hear from the players and even the opponents, as I detail in the story, you hear that this is a kid who has a good head on his shoulders, who is very mature. He's savvy about the game, he knows what he's doing on the field. It looks like he is trending toward being their opening day shortstop. It's a bit of a stretch, but the young superstars that we've seen over the years, from a rad to Albert Poohols to a bunch of guys Ken Griffy Junior, Mike Trout, these are the guys that can come to the big leagues and succeed almost right away. Trout had to go back to the miners, of course, but we have seen Wan Soto other one young players who stand out in this sense that really can make an impact right away, and it looks like looks like Connor Griffin could be the next one.

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Speaker 2: A surprise boost of confidence and something to watch for the Pittsburgh Pirates. We don't get to talk about them in a positive light very often, so Connor Griffin is perhaps that spark that they need. Merrill Kelly Ken back to the Diamondbacks, but potentially not ready for opening day, dealing with some soreness if you will, in his back. What more can you tell us.

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Speaker 1: Here is the Diamondbacks have been one of the more aggressive teams over the years under Ken Kendrick, their owner in signing free agents, in maybe out punching their market size right or at least what we perceive in baseball to be their market size. Phoenix is a huge market, but it's not a huge baseball market in terms of revenue, and yet they've had horrible luck signing these free agents. I want to show you a list here of pictures that they've signed that at least in some cases have not yet worked out for the Madison Bumgarner not good. It was kind of a disaster. Actually Edwalter Rodriguez. He's pitched okay at times, but he's been hurt. Jordan Montgomery of course was hurt, Corbyn Burns, Tommy John surgery, and now perhaps Merrill Kelly injured as well. They've also signed Zach Gallen for this season. I did not include Zach Grenky on this list. He was a huge free agent signing at the time, biggest contract for a pitcher at the time. He did pitch well for the Diamondbacks, but ultimately they traded him to the Houston Astros. So the Diamondbacks keep trying and it almost seems like they keep getting burned.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, it's time now to tell our folks watching about seat geek. Guys, let's shout out seat Geek. I am buried under the snow here in the Northeast, so my mind, clearly, Ken is wandering about just where I should go. Should it be Arizona, Should it be Florida Cactus League, grape Fruit League. I'd love to get tickets to Port and Saint Lucy tomorrow to watch Freddy peralta first outing as a met Remember he's no longer with the Brewers. If you're able, seat gek can make it happen, Ken, what is the game you are particularly excited about for Friday?

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Speaker 1: It's at Oriols, right, not Oriels at Pirates. Not sure exactly either.

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Speaker 2: Well else, I don't know Pirates.

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Speaker 1: I want to see Condig Griffin play. Conda Griffin hit two home runs the other day against the Boston Red Sox. Both homers left Jet Blue Park. The first was off the Red Sox one hundred and thirty million dollar man range of Suarez. Now, I know it's spring training, but if I'm a fan, I want to see this kid in action.

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Speaker 1: Like G fifteen. How about Owen Casey from Miami Marlins, traded to Miami from the Chicago Cubs in the EDWARDO. Cabrera deal Edward Cabrera deal. I should say that is an interesting one for me because Owen Casey was and is a great prospect and has a chance to do some special things this year. He's the one that for me immediately jumped to mind.

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Speaker 2: Okay, next one is in regards to the Minnesota Twins. Vermond is amazing and wants to know Ken. With David Festa likely to begin this season on the injured list, will the Twins finally make a move for the rotation, signing Lucas Giolito or Zach Lttel or trade perhaps for Eric Lauer, who we were just talking about with the bou Jays.

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Speaker 1: We've gotten a lot of questions about the Twins lately, but not this kind of question. The questions have been hey, with Pablo Lopez out for the season, why not trade Joe Ryan? And it seems that their new control person, Tom Polad is talking about being competitive, trying to put a good team on the field this year. Well, okay, as arm, there's amazing points out there. Put up a shut up, Go get Gilido or Lttel, or go trade for Law or anybody else who might be available that you can pry for what you might deem a reasonable price. The twins have talked, They've talked the talk. They need to walk the walk when it comes to improving their team, and really, for the most part, they haven't done that.

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting question, not necessarily raised in the form of a question, but see Carera nine to five to one. Just put up there, how much tenure is Max trying to get?

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Speaker 1: Why do you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know Max right? He has nothing else to prove ken So if you were to kind of dive into the head of Max Scherzer, is it because there's an opportunity truly to win with the Blue Jays? Does he just love it that much? What keeps a guy like Shurser going?

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Speaker 1: All right, I'll put it as simply as I can and in a way that I would expect most fans can relate. If you get to play baseball at the highest level, Major League, why would you ever want to stop until they tell you have to stop? Most players try to max out their careers, and so to speak with Max, that's exactly what he's trying to do. And a lot of you're right, he wants to win, that's part of it, but he loves to compete. A lot of the ace pitchers in particular are competition addicts, actually most players are, and he just doesn't want to stop as long as he feels he can continue to perform at a high level. And we saw last year in the ALCS, we saw him start Game seven of the World Series. He can still perform at a high level. And that's what drives him. It's not, in his case a particular number as it might be with Verland or the three hundred wins. But even with Verlander, I think he knows that three hundred wins is probably unrealistic for him, but he wants to keep going. He wants to just keep pitching and keep competing. It's what these guys do, and when they stop doing it, they miss it badly. So I think any of us can understand that, and certainly I feel the same way honestly about my own career. I want to keep going as long as I can, and obviously not a major League player. But that's generally the feeling that these guys have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why wouldn't you. I mean, you're going to spend more time out of the game than you are in the game. If he's healthy, if he's still productive, if there's a team that still wants him, why not. Plus Emily can handle the kiddos by herself. It's like when these guys come back after the season, it's like re entering the Earth's atmosphere and the wives are like, wow, wow, Wow, we had this all taken care of dad, all right? Another question for you and Kennon from Doc, who's your surprise pick for a breakout player of the year.

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Speaker 1: That is a great one. And these questions come at me live, so I'm not thinking about them in advance, so I'd have to have maybe some time to think about this. But I'll give you one. And this one is a little bit off the radar right now. Christian Campbell, Boston Red Sox. There doesn't appear to be a spot for him right now. But Jen McCaffrey The Athletic wrote a really interesting story about how he trained differently this offseason with his swing, did some different concepts, adopted some different concepts, and I just see him as ultimately a quality major league hitter. If you remember it this time last year, Christian Campbell wasn't getting as hyped up as Connor Griffin is now, but he was considered one of the big guys for the Red Sox. The big prospects started at second base gets the extension. I'm not giving up on him yet, so I don't see a spot right now. Obviously, what things happen during the course of the season. So off the top of my head, there's one, all right.

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Speaker 2: I hate to put you on the spot like that, but you know what, Connor Griffin's always a good answer too. We'll see what happens with that if he does make the big league club with the Pirates. Last question for you before we get into dude and dork, any word can on Lucas Giolito. I don't think he's the only person that has this question. Is he going to get a team this year?

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Speaker 1: He'll get a team and he'll sign eventually. It might take until after opening Day, who knows. But it's only February twenty sixth. Exhibition games are starting in Arizona and Florida, and as much as we all hate to see it and hate to talk about it. Injuries are going to happen, They're already happening. Teams will get more desperate than they are right now. Teams will also look at their players and their pitchers and say, WHOA, maybe we're not as good as we thought. And that is what would drive the signing of a Lucas Giolito or a Zach Lttel. Clearly he's not getting the offers he wants right now. Clearly he is a quality major league pitcher, as is Lttel. These guys are not fringe major leaguers. They're major league caliber pitchers, and it's just a question of when and where.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Lucas Gioledo did a lot of good for the Red Spot last season. We'll see where he ends up. Right. We're going to be back right after this with Dude and Dork of the Week. A few messages from our friends at foul Territory.

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Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude.

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Speaker 2: All right, I will kick things off here on our due to the week, and mine is actually a dudet. My dudet is Sarah Langs, of course, a wonderful, wonderful baseball writer and fan. Nobody loves baseball more than Sarah lang She's making her way around the Cactus League circuit. She went to Mariners camp, she went to the Reds, she went to the Diamondbacks, she went to the A's. Everybody loves to see Sarah Langs in camp because she just makes the game and the day better. Of course, she is valiantly and heroically battling with als, with a smile, with poise, with grace and class. And I love seeing Sarah out at camp. So keep on keeping on, Sarah. We're proud of what we love to see it. I just I love her and the energy that she brings to every club. All right, Ken, who is your dude of the week.

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Speaker 1: Actually, we could go with Sarah every week and we'd be perfectly justified in doing so. She is just a bright light in our sport. My dude of the week, though, actually it's a couple of dudes, and it's a couple of people, actually four, who covered the Winter Olympics for the Washington Post at a time when, of course the Washington Post is abandoning it's sports section, ditching it's sports section. Two of the writers, Barris for Luga and Les Carpenter, were already laid off, and yet they still went and did their jobs. Why because they felt they had an obligation to their readers, and also they wanted to do what they do. This is their job, it's their livelihood, and you take it away from us, we still want to do it. And it was great today to see the announcement from the Athletic my Public that we're hiring six people from the Washington Post, including Barry's for Luga, that Spencer Nutsbaum he's going to cover the Nationals for US, Candice Buckner, columnist Ava Wallace, Adam Kilbour brilliant writer, and Jason Murray. They're bringing their expertise to the Athletic, as that tweet says, and we are thrilled to have them. And there have been a lot of things that have happened in our business over the years that just make us go, man, that's not right. This was the all timer and I'm glad to see a lot of these people from the Washington Post Sports department getting jobs.

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Speaker 2: Ken, I'm going to ask you this because one of the things that I think I'm really bad at is writing. It's not a strength of mind. It's not something that I'm good at. In fact, it scares me. You've done it brilliantly for so many years, and all of those colleagues, now your colleagues that you listed have also done it for a very long time. In your opinion. Let's say there's a young journalist out there listening. What makes a good writer? What are the tips that you need to have to be successful at that craft?

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Speaker 1: Well, I wish I knew, because it's different for everyone, and sometimes I wish I was a better writer myself. To me, what it all starts with is information, And I'm not talking about scoops and transactions and that kind of thing. I'm talking about details that will make a good story. And then, of course there's the skill in putting those sentences together and all of that. There are people who are a lot better at that than I am, and there are people who are a lot better at gathering than I am. But hard work really is a key in all of these things in journalism, and it's kind of the backbone of the writing part of it too.

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Speaker 2: Well, I disagree with you. I think you are a brilliant writer and you do an amazing job. All right, let's go to our dork of the week. All right, and I'll let you lead this category off.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna go with a person that's pretty obvious choice this week. It's already the says Moreno, owner of the Los Angeles Angels. You might have seen the news about Artie Moreno conducting a survey or the Angels conducting a survey in which fans said, according to Moreno and Angels, that winning was not in their top five priorities. Really, I'd like to see who those fans are. I'd like to see the survey. I'd like to get a little bit more detail about this. Frankly, I think it's a bunch of bunk. And I'll tell you this if I'm Rob Manfred, the Commissioner of Baseball, and I see an owner saying this on the eve of collective bargaining negotiations, when trying and winning is going to be a key element of this whole deal. That's what the union wants to see more of from more teams. Artie Moreno is embarrassing major League Baseball with this kind of stuff, and if I'm Manfred, I am not happy about it.

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Speaker 2: Ken does Rob Manfred have that conversation? Do you think the commissioner of the sport picks up the phone and says, Artie, what are you doing? Like, I'm here to support the owners. I'm here to support you guys, but you're making my job very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Rob Manfred is someone that, of course at times I criticize and others criticize, but he does have a very difficult job. He's employed by the thirty owners, so it's a difficult political position that he is constantly in. It's especially difficult in a time of collective bargaining negotiations. But again, I can't imagine he was too happy with Artie Moreno's great survey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still would love to see that survey. I know I'm not the only one wondering where that survey is. Okay, my dork of the week, and this is not probably going to come as any shock to anybody. It is a PCA Pete Crow ar'mstrong with the Chicago Cubs who had this to say, I love Chicago more and more. I love Chicago as well. By the way, the people are great. They give a big They aren't just baseball fans who go to the game like Dodgers fans to take pictures and whatever. They're paying attention. They care. Okay, listen, PCA is great for the game. I love the way the kid plays. But to say that Dodgers fans just go to take pictures and whatever is a little unfair. I would I would garner to bet that all thirty clubs have interesting sections of their stadium where there are fans that don't care as much about the game. In fact, at Wrigley Stack, in the you know, the plastic cups of beer all the way to the moon, those types of things. Everybody has certain parts of their fan base that are a little suspect. But to say that the Dodgers fans just go to take pictures and whatever is not fair. It's a massive stadium. I've covered it for seven seasons. Their fans are very passionate and rabid, and every fan base thinks that there's is the best and every fan base is right. Okay, So PCA, I love you. You're great for the sport. But come on, man, come on all right. If you're watching on TV, thank you were going to see you next time. We'll have a couple more minutes on the YouTube side right after this. All right, ken, if you were still with us, you're watching on YouTube, We're happy that you are here. Let's talk talk a little bit about the Braves rotation. You had mentioned it earlier in the show. Whereas the Toronto Blue Jays have a palletha of arms, the Braves are on the opposite end of that spectrum perhaps, But they did just extend Chrissale to I believe, a one year extension with an opt out after that. What do you make of the Braves rotation moving forward?

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Speaker 1: Well, and I wrote about this this week, and basically what I wrote was that the Braves President Base Operations, Alex Anthopolis, as good as he has been, and he has been really good at his job. He's playing with fire here, and he's playing with fire because they've already lost Spencer Schwellenbach and Hirston Waldrip just this spring training. Those two guys have gone down, both had elbow cleanups. They'll be out, most likely at least for several months. So what are the Braves looking at right now? Chris Sale is going to be thirty seven this season, Rinaldo Lopez coming off a season in which he pitched once due to shoulder inflammation, Grant Holmes who has a tear in his elbow but is pitching with it, and Bryce Elder is going to be competing for the fifth spot, and I'm missing someone. I'm sorry about that, but essentially this is a group. Oh, Spencer Strider, Spencer Strider, this will be his second year off. Tommy John even if he is back, and they do believe he is, it's going to be difficult for him to carry a heavy workload. So with Bryce Elder and Joey Wentz both out of options, competing for the fifth spot, it just seems to me that they're perilously thin, and they're one injury away from a really dangerous situation, a situation in which at that point they'd be desperate to sign a Giolito or a Zach Lettel or do something with a trade. It just seems to me this team, a team with Ronald Acuna Junior in his prime coming back from the knee problems, a team that really should be a World Series contender this year. They're playing again, as I said, with fire here. It's a little bit of a dangerous spot for them, and one that I think they could have avoided if they had fulfilled their off season mission of acquiring a playoff starter. That's what they said they wanted to do at the start of the off season. Never got it done.

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Speaker 2: Ken, this is not related to the Braves, but I guess it could be. And maybe I'm a little surprised that he's on a minor league deal right now. Do you see Walker Buehler getting on with a big league club. It seems like kind of a fall from grace considering how good he was for a short period of time. I realize he's dealt with injuries, But where do you think Warker Buehler ultimately ends up?

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Speaker 1: San Diego is where he's ending up, or at least where he's in camp with now. Does he make the team? We'll see. And Walker Buehler, you're right along. He's had an interesting fall from grace here and a stunning fall honestly. But the Padres have done a good job in kind of collecting some arms that who knows, may have a chance to surface in a big way for them. Harman Marquez is another one. So their rotation took a hit obviously when they lost Dylan Cees than when Darvish had the injury that he will not pitch again this season. But they have some possibilities there. Bueller is one of them.

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