863: REVENGEANCE | Mt. Rushmore of Scary Games

<v Speaker 1>I'm with it.
<v Speaker 2>We can't start the pod like this.
<v Speaker 1>It's too late.
<v Speaker 2>We did.
<v Speaker 3>They don't know about they don't know about the conversations
<v Speaker 3>we have when we made.
<v Speaker 2>The Black Sean Brandy.
<v Speaker 4>Oh hey, everybody, it's Friday, October twenty fifth, twenty twenty four.
<v Speaker 2>People at the Taco truck. Do not be alarmed. I'm
<v Speaker 2>just podcasting here. My name is jan Ochoa. Welcome to
<v Speaker 2>BombCast Revenge. Jance joining me co captain of the ship.
<v Speaker 2>His eyes are haunted right now, so he has to
<v Speaker 2>cover them.
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Grubb, Ah, ready to podcast.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, He's always ready to podcast. He's been looking
<v Speaker 2>up how to legally import skeletons into his home.
<v Speaker 1>Dan Reikert, I'm pouring one into my body. I got
<v Speaker 1>one in here right now.
<v Speaker 2>That's right, speaking.
<v Speaker 5>About having a body's he's he's the haughty, the bad
<v Speaker 5>boy of games media, and he's got a body count
<v Speaker 5>that he's hiding in his basement.
<v Speaker 6>My man, Oh, it's been naughty, too hotty with the
<v Speaker 6>most banging body. How's it going? Everybody?
<v Speaker 1>Do the kids say body count for sex partners? Now?
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Oh, yes they do.
<v Speaker 6>I feel like I've heard that used a couple of.
<v Speaker 3>Times, and you got to stop bringing up sex.
<v Speaker 1>Man, that's my whole gimmick, right, uh huh Yeah. I
<v Speaker 1>feel like every once in a while I'll see a
<v Speaker 1>term getting thrown around and like, I think the kids
<v Speaker 1>are using this now locked in body count.
<v Speaker 3>Body body count. They definite use BodyCount for that. Yes, okay,
<v Speaker 3>that's uh I think I noticed on TikTok a few
<v Speaker 3>months ago.
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, please, let's have a mini very online show. Wow,
<v Speaker 2>are there any other terms you all would like clarification on.
<v Speaker 1>I'm very late to even hearing because then some non TikTok,
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm several months behind, Like like Jane,
<v Speaker 1>you said, I got on the chapel oone train months
<v Speaker 1>after it was grown up there elsewhere. BodyCount? I know,
<v Speaker 1>now it's like several months behind. Yeah, y'all know Ohio
<v Speaker 1>they were good. I know of Skibbity and Ohio.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, o Hio. And what does Ohio mean?
<v Speaker 2>Man?
<v Speaker 6>Mid which means I think is it just bad?
<v Speaker 2>It's like a little worse than.
<v Speaker 3>Is in Ohio. Yeah, which one's cringe is that skibby?
<v Speaker 3>One of them skilled cringe is cringe?
<v Speaker 6>I thought skippity was a sus now that was during study?
<v Speaker 2>Is bad?
<v Speaker 3>Skippy is like you're a like a bad or evil thing?
<v Speaker 2>Evil evil?
<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, but but you children comprehend really.
<v Speaker 2>Though, No, yeah, they're not old enough to comprehend good
<v Speaker 2>and bad problems.
<v Speaker 6>Don't care about children. You clarified that, yester, of course.
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, boys, it's been a week. Uh y'all, y'all
<v Speaker 2>are fresh off of the race track just now. We
<v Speaker 2>we did the Astra Invitational two right before this really
<v Speaker 2>really setting the world to blaze. My friends, you.
<v Speaker 3>Guys ever gonna give me competition or what?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?
<v Speaker 1>A thousands of a second behind you right now?
<v Speaker 3>Grab, I am coming to shoot and the shoot leaderboard.
<v Speaker 3>I just mean, like for the people were putting on
<v Speaker 3>a show.
<v Speaker 6>Tell you what for the invitation, I thought I had
<v Speaker 6>no chance. I was pretty happy with myself.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, because you kind of came in kind of hot.
<v Speaker 1>I did have a better one than you during that stream.
<v Speaker 6>For the record, I didn't count.
<v Speaker 3>I think I had one in the well, yeah, that's right,
<v Speaker 3>you did have a good one in the sevens, right.
<v Speaker 1>I have a it's literally eight thousands of a second
<v Speaker 1>behind yours. Yours is like seven four oh, I'm like
<v Speaker 1>seven four eight or something.
<v Speaker 3>I had a coup I had a couple. I think
<v Speaker 3>I got a couple of seven six oh's like off
<v Speaker 3>stream off camera.
<v Speaker 6>I mean right, Dan h that new Sonic game that's
<v Speaker 6>actually like good. It has it has leaderboards? Oh real
<v Speaker 6>friendsless leaderboards, Arnie one? Are you playing a PC PlayStation?
<v Speaker 6>Dan Ross?
<v Speaker 1>I want to play that this weekend out. I got
<v Speaker 1>a busy tomorrow, but I want to play Sonic. I
<v Speaker 1>want to play Batman VR, and I want to play
<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty. Uh. Those, so I got a few
<v Speaker 1>that I want to.
<v Speaker 2>Get to this weekend.
<v Speaker 3>It could be a busy weekend.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm interested in checking out Batman also, but I'm
<v Speaker 2>afraid i'm a yack.
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good at that as far as the actual
<v Speaker 1>because I turned on you know, there's like, oh, do
<v Speaker 1>you want to do baby Mode VR or do you
<v Speaker 1>want to do like I won't Puke Mode? I did,
<v Speaker 1>I won't Puke Mode and it's like throw all of
<v Speaker 1>it at me, and even then I didn't get and
<v Speaker 1>I will get a little queasy, you know with the
<v Speaker 1>VR we getna.
<v Speaker 2>Anyone's checking out Call of Duty this weekend? Yeah?
<v Speaker 6>Download play a little bit of it.
<v Speaker 1>I want to play campaign. I used to play all
<v Speaker 1>the campaigns uh and I kind of stopped around, like
<v Speaker 1>w W two, like that that one from Sledgehammer. But
<v Speaker 1>I've heard this one is good and I liked. I
<v Speaker 1>just like the black ops like coldor intrigue stuff. I
<v Speaker 1>think that's fun. So like, I want to play that.
<v Speaker 1>He probably kills it, I'm saying or something. Yeah, Bill,
<v Speaker 1>George W.
<v Speaker 6>Can't play? Is George W?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yes, yeah, No, I'm gonna play it.
<v Speaker 3>That would yeah.
<v Speaker 6>Throw a shoe, that'd be uh so good. I haven't
<v Speaker 6>played cod campaign since advanced warfare?
<v Speaker 3>What what was the moment in modern warfare? Is that
<v Speaker 3>like someone like tossed you a knife and then you
<v Speaker 3>throw it at the first one, right, do that? But
<v Speaker 3>with the shoes?
<v Speaker 1>That would sam Eli because you're on the ground. The
<v Speaker 1>sam Eliot boys, the guards, he just look like Sam Elliott.
<v Speaker 3>There's two are you thinking of a not soap?
<v Speaker 1>But no, but there's a there's a gray haired guy
<v Speaker 1>that does a heel turn and I thought it was
<v Speaker 1>Sam Ellis at the end of Shock.
<v Speaker 6>I don't think a verse war day you remember more
<v Speaker 6>about this than I do.
<v Speaker 3>The general yeah, I know the general. I don't know
<v Speaker 3>if he was.
<v Speaker 1>Saying he was saying Shepherd, Shepherd. I think that sounded.
<v Speaker 3>They're saying Shepherd with a question mark though.
<v Speaker 6>So general Shepherd.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, okay, that sounds possible. Yeah. Yeah, he turned
<v Speaker 3>bad and it turned out that the h that he
<v Speaker 3>was controlling the people that were being terrible.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, what military rank would you do? You wish you
<v Speaker 6>had the most because you think it sounds cool.
<v Speaker 1>Brigadier General's right the answer. I think it'd be pretty
<v Speaker 1>funny if you were lieutenant Dan that so, I know
<v Speaker 1>that's a reference though. Yeah, you would love Forrest Gump.
<v Speaker 1>I've seen person of it. I know we ran and
<v Speaker 1>went to war.
<v Speaker 2>For We ate at the restaurant.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just like yeah yeah, and then free birds
<v Speaker 1>in it. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Oh god. What was the beverage we had again? That
<v Speaker 2>was glorious.
<v Speaker 6>The beer beer arita.
<v Speaker 2>That was good.
<v Speaker 6>We could be there in eight days. We're gonna be
<v Speaker 6>back up.
<v Speaker 1>Of a gum.
<v Speaker 3>You know.
<v Speaker 6>I go there for you, Mike. I appreciate that. Dad.
<v Speaker 6>It's like when you take a kid.
<v Speaker 1>To McDonald's play place and like I'll sit over here.
<v Speaker 1>Well you have fun.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, listen, I like that they go
<v Speaker 3>and entertain themselves. I get to sit there and be clear.
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes you don't have to take me to the Mall
<v Speaker 6>of America if you'd rather take me to like more exciting
<v Speaker 6>local places. I don't what you do.
<v Speaker 3>You seem so happy you America.
<v Speaker 1>We'll see okay, because I think it's him and Kayla
<v Speaker 1>getting in around the same time, and uh, Sean walking there.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Sean's walking, he's running like forced.
<v Speaker 3>Come.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kayla will go anywhere she's so, she's she's easy. Uh,
<v Speaker 1>maybe she'll be fine with all of America's about the
<v Speaker 1>airport two. So yeah, what America too. I don't know
<v Speaker 1>when he's coming in. Maybe we all go.
<v Speaker 3>Fun.
<v Speaker 6>Sean wants to see that Nickelodeon theme park, which is
<v Speaker 6>pretty cool.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, okay, Okay.
<v Speaker 6>There's a Lego store there too, and maybe I need
<v Speaker 6>to finally just go and buy that freaking home alone
<v Speaker 6>Lego set. It looks so freaking good. You know what
<v Speaker 6>I have here.
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to finish up the Millennium Falcon Lego
<v Speaker 1>by the time you guys get here, so that table
<v Speaker 1>can be used for like pizza or whatever.
<v Speaker 2>Uh.
<v Speaker 1>And then I've got the Decu tree and the Mario
<v Speaker 1>on Yoshi thing ready to go, so put those together.
<v Speaker 2>Next. Yeah, I saw the announce the X Mansion set,
<v Speaker 2>and I really really don't need it, but I really
<v Speaker 2>want it for some reason. They're putting Beast in a
<v Speaker 2>mini blind bag, so you can get pretty much all
<v Speaker 2>the other X men except Beast. I wouldn't put Beast
<v Speaker 2>behind one of those.
<v Speaker 6>I tell you. That's one of my favorite character archetypes though,
<v Speaker 6>like the strong guy but actually he wears reading glasses
<v Speaker 6>and has books.
<v Speaker 2>The beast of this gang? Are you the beast of
<v Speaker 2>this gang? Like I'm a beast baby?
<v Speaker 1>Now, wouldn't that be Grub? I feel like Grub would
<v Speaker 1>actually be useful in a fight where it's like no
<v Speaker 1>Beast is useful enough.
<v Speaker 2>Grub would be.
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying about Marshall Prowess.
<v Speaker 6>I believe Grub as we beat.
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, That's what I go around saying.
<v Speaker 1>With one of these guys and ship went down. I'm
<v Speaker 1>sorry I did body stare, but to like one of
<v Speaker 1>my friends who actual he had bustles, like, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>But Dan, what the fight in the world?
<v Speaker 1>Though? Is uh going to a bar just with Samoa
<v Speaker 1>Joe and then oh god, I wanted someone to start
<v Speaker 1>shipped before. But I went to a Brooklyn bar just
<v Speaker 1>with Smoa Joe once and I was like, please someone
<v Speaker 1>start ship.
<v Speaker 6>That'd be incredible that I did not. We just got
<v Speaker 6>drunk and talk.
<v Speaker 2>About right now, now, Dan, what if the fight was against.
<v Speaker 1>Grubmoa Joe, wouldn't Somoa Joe is not in this equation
<v Speaker 1>going to the previous hypothetical where you there's a scuffle,
<v Speaker 1>but the scuffle is and Grub is on the other side.
<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing Mike Manatti in Grub's way and I'm getting
<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of there.
<v Speaker 6>Maybe I'll be an obstacle. Maybe he'll hesitate for a moment.
<v Speaker 3>You'll want some kind of flash back, recognize your humanity,
<v Speaker 3>Like I know this man.
<v Speaker 6>You remember going to were in line for Star Wars
<v Speaker 6>battle Front together.
<v Speaker 2>Something that's a single tear will roll down Grub's eyes.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's getting getting Corneyland.
<v Speaker 2>Something I really want to squeeze in another Disney trip
<v Speaker 2>while we're down.
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, we haven't talked about that. We could try
<v Speaker 3>to do that because we haven't.
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I booked today.
<v Speaker 2>I booked myself really we're supposed to book it.
<v Speaker 3>I was not wet today.
<v Speaker 6>Okay, yeah, I mean if that's difficult. Universe is always
<v Speaker 6>easier from where we are.
<v Speaker 2>It's not the same magic, though, you know.
<v Speaker 6>It's it's a different magic.
<v Speaker 1>It's you have a big I do enjoy all of
<v Speaker 1>those properties at Universal more than I enjoyed the Disney.
<v Speaker 2>Water I guess. Yeah, And you might get stopping wet again.
<v Speaker 1>That's fine, I'll get wet.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, remind me to talk to YouTube about
<v Speaker 2>something immediately after the show that is not gonna cause
<v Speaker 2>uh rumor that before.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I forgot who's the we also lost time?
<v Speaker 2>You two what it about?
<v Speaker 1>Give a hint.
<v Speaker 2>No, don't worry.
<v Speaker 6>I think I know what it is.
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Mike, you I mean, it's just okay, we're going
<v Speaker 2>to have a mini meeting after this, and Mike, you
<v Speaker 2>tell me what you think. I'm going to say, I'm
<v Speaker 2>too curious.
<v Speaker 3>No, Mike knows, because he remembers when you told me.
<v Speaker 6>I don't know was there. I'm curious a similar concern.
<v Speaker 6>I know what it is.
<v Speaker 2>Discord me after. It's not that I'm too curious.
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna be wondering a whole time. Right now, I'm
<v Speaker 6>going to write in this chat right now.
<v Speaker 2>This Yeah, nothing gets shown in the chat. Okay, okay, okay,
<v Speaker 2>all right? Did I get anyway?
<v Speaker 6>That's boring?
<v Speaker 2>What I don't know.
<v Speaker 3>Why you built it up so much? Dan, He's like,
<v Speaker 3>let's have a word.
<v Speaker 1>And Jan was also wrong. Mike was also wrong, based
<v Speaker 1>only it was right to be fair.
<v Speaker 2>No, well no, not that, not that.
<v Speaker 3>It's close. It's tangent.
<v Speaker 6>It's a great podcast, going crazy.
<v Speaker 2>I am not leaving the website, damn it.
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to think you are until I hear otherwise.
<v Speaker 2>Dan, I am not leaving the website. That's not what
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to you to about. You just heard otherwise, Dan,
<v Speaker 2>crub discord me. I'll no sell it is it not
<v Speaker 2>just how.
<v Speaker 6>I want to know what it is you know later?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, all right, anyway, it was really nice working
<v Speaker 3>with you, Jan.
<v Speaker 1>That was Oh but Jan, you know what? Yeah, that's
<v Speaker 1>how could you turn that down? You know, I can't
<v Speaker 1>believe you would leave me with the memory.
<v Speaker 6>I did just get it.
<v Speaker 3>I got a message.
<v Speaker 1>I got a message from someone on staff saying Jane's leaving.
<v Speaker 2>They could just message you that but that wouldn't be real.
<v Speaker 1>We're all leaving otherwise from someone on the skull oh man,
<v Speaker 1>all right, yep, that's right, guys.
<v Speaker 2>I'm leaving for kind of funny East Way.
<v Speaker 6>We got a message is that the grubs say that.
<v Speaker 2>Where are you reading this? Now? This is okay?
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it was a good bit. This the whole thing
<v Speaker 3>that we're doing. It was fun because it's like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>they're being stupid. But now it's legitimately annoying.
<v Speaker 6>I presure need to know or all go crazy.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll put it in our discord after I talk
<v Speaker 2>about what the week's hot topic is. Okay, all right,
<v Speaker 2>this week's topic.
<v Speaker 6>Can we start the show now?
<v Speaker 2>This week's hot topic is we are going to be
<v Speaker 2>crowding the Mount Rushmore of scary games. I was so
<v Speaker 2>scared my gogsler was gonna break. Jeff Grubb, Please I
<v Speaker 2>consider you the Mount Rushmore officionado. What what determines a
<v Speaker 2>Mount Rushmore?
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's always important to keep in mind, not
<v Speaker 3>necessarily always going to be these are the four best
<v Speaker 3>games in the genre. It is the maybe foremost important.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I always say emblematic things that represent what you
<v Speaker 3>want to represent when you say something like scary games. Now,
<v Speaker 3>do we want to like get more specific on scary
<v Speaker 3>games or are we just gonna say like survival horror games.
<v Speaker 1>I think we can just say scary because like the
<v Speaker 1>scary games that aren't in that genre specifically, you know.
<v Speaker 3>And we're not talking like, oh, spooky, So it's not
<v Speaker 3>Luigi's Mansion three, right, Like that's not.
<v Speaker 1>Scared the shit out of you. I mean you can
<v Speaker 1>bring it up.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, yeah, that's pretty that's that. But that's what
<v Speaker 3>the definition I'm going for. So we're not talking about like, oh,
<v Speaker 3>just it's Halloween theme, it's got monsters actually scary, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Grub question, are are we limited to one entry per
<v Speaker 2>I p.
<v Speaker 3>At all we can have? I think the best way
<v Speaker 3>to handle those situations is to have the conversation. So
<v Speaker 3>if you want to put more than one I p
<v Speaker 3>up there for consideration, you're gonna have to make the
<v Speaker 3>argument for why these two games from the same franchise
<v Speaker 3>should be keeping off something fresh.
<v Speaker 1>Just to pay off the storyline for the chat Jan
<v Speaker 1>has updated me and it's it's boring.
<v Speaker 2>No, because there's other factors in it, all right, sure,
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's boring.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's boring.
<v Speaker 2>I I'm I'm actually just leaving.
<v Speaker 3>Sales for Jesus.
<v Speaker 1>Ok So, yes, I mean we could argue a couple
<v Speaker 1>from U, but yeah, Grub said it. You got to
<v Speaker 1>make the argument if it's more.
<v Speaker 6>Than one, and it is kind of gets it point, like, look,
<v Speaker 6>it could it could be a whole list of risky
<v Speaker 6>games a baby. We don't want to do that, sure, yeah,
<v Speaker 6>I mean, or.
<v Speaker 3>Maybe we do, but they would have to be all
<v Speaker 3>the other games had to be terrible, and I just
<v Speaker 3>don't think that's gonna.
<v Speaker 1>Happen scary games.
<v Speaker 6>When you did like thirty like the mounta risk wore
<v Speaker 6>three D platformers, It's like there might be two Marios
<v Speaker 6>on there, deal with it. But yeah, right, did we
<v Speaker 6>do that three D platformers? I think might have done it.
<v Speaker 1>That would have had to be like four like or
<v Speaker 1>three Marios in an astrobob But that's I guess that
<v Speaker 1>different podcast.
<v Speaker 3>It might have been.
<v Speaker 2>That's a sick tom if I've ever heard one.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think we did it after Astro came out, right,
<v Speaker 3>so maybe okay? Yeah, okay, so uh, we're who wants
<v Speaker 3>to start here with? Throw some stuff out.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I heard you guys last night talking about moments,
<v Speaker 1>and like the dog thing is like the number one
<v Speaker 1>all timer scary thing that's ever happened in a game.
<v Speaker 1>We all remember that, we all got scared shitless. It's
<v Speaker 1>that first great scare in the Great Scary series. And
<v Speaker 1>ARI One, like I don't know, it was like ARI One,
<v Speaker 1>I believe came out before because it came out in
<v Speaker 1>ninety six, was set in ninety eight, right, so it
<v Speaker 1>would have been a couple years before Middle of Your Solid.
<v Speaker 1>So like, even though it's not like cinematic on the
<v Speaker 1>level of like a metal gear, it was still early
<v Speaker 1>on in that like CD ROM Oh shit, we've got
<v Speaker 1>voice acting, we've got a story. They're doing these cinematic
<v Speaker 1>angles and everything. It really came at the right time.
<v Speaker 2>This is a.
<v Speaker 1>Completely different experience that I've never had before, and they
<v Speaker 1>did it so well right out of the gate.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah, I think sometimes people forget about, oh, nineteen
<v Speaker 6>niney six, Like this is like as much a three
<v Speaker 6>D gaming pioneer as Mario sixty four is, which is
<v Speaker 6>impressive and obviously doing a very different thing. Yeah, you know,
<v Speaker 6>it reads is pretty camping now, but at the time
<v Speaker 6>I did to think it was camping. I thought it
<v Speaker 6>was pretty actually scary. And if that campingess like detracts
<v Speaker 6>from it actually being frightening for you, well you can
<v Speaker 6>go and play the remake that they did in the
<v Speaker 6>game Cuber, which is still actually pretty legitimately scary, and
<v Speaker 6>it's still a very good looking game, the best rendered
<v Speaker 6>backgrounds you probably will ever see. Yeah, and like there
<v Speaker 6>might be scarier resident eual games, uh now for sure,
<v Speaker 6>but there's something about this game that is still a
<v Speaker 6>good bounce of some jump scares, a lot of just
<v Speaker 6>tense moments and creepiness. And also like, yeah, it started
<v Speaker 6>the survival horror genre right, Like I wasn't thinking about
<v Speaker 6>scary video games really being a thing before this. I
<v Speaker 6>know they were out there, but this opened the floodgates
<v Speaker 6>on that genre.
<v Speaker 1>Well another thing you mentioned, they were like quieter moments
<v Speaker 1>and it's not just the dog, it's not just the
<v Speaker 1>zombie turning around. Like when I think about it, I
<v Speaker 1>equally remember like, Okay, this is just a big dining
<v Speaker 1>hall and all I can hear is the ticking of
<v Speaker 1>a grandfather clock that's like echoing across the floor, and
<v Speaker 1>it's like that is just such a spooky vibe. It's
<v Speaker 1>not constantly throwing shit at you, but then when it
<v Speaker 1>does throw shit at you, like oh, here's the hunters,
<v Speaker 1>then you're it's like shit your pants, Like, oh god,
<v Speaker 1>I'm in trouble with feeling.
<v Speaker 6>It's so smart because it's you know, it's a haunted house,
<v Speaker 6>Like that's what it is. It's a haunted house, and
<v Speaker 6>it's kind of Metroidvania esque. You're sort of repeating areas,
<v Speaker 6>you're thinking about your resources. Even that's scary, right, like, oh, man,
<v Speaker 6>like I may not going to shoot this zombie because
<v Speaker 6>I don't have them eight bullets. I kind of have
<v Speaker 6>to like weave around it. And that's tense. Is getting
<v Speaker 6>hit one time could be a very big problem.
<v Speaker 1>Thing is there is a reason I don't think I
<v Speaker 1>beat a Resident Evil game until four because I owned them.
<v Speaker 1>I played them. But it's like I could not even
<v Speaker 1>get the concept of like Ammo conservation. I played everything
<v Speaker 1>like an action game, so it's like I see an enemy,
<v Speaker 1>I need to kill the enemy. So like I never
<v Speaker 1>weaved around zombies, I never conserved Ammo, and so I
<v Speaker 1>would always just get to a point halfway through the game,
<v Speaker 1>where it's like I'm fucked. I guess I'm not playing
<v Speaker 1>this game. So yeah, it was a whole different way
<v Speaker 1>of playing games. It's not just kill everything you see.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think I because it did more than
<v Speaker 3>just the haunted House thing, was like very good. Good
<v Speaker 3>for me because it's like, oh, for me, monsters were
<v Speaker 3>just these enemies have a different flavor, but these actually
<v Speaker 3>felt like monsters, like Halloween style monsters, and that went
<v Speaker 3>a long way for me. And then I think the
<v Speaker 3>sound design was that, like it actually goes a long
<v Speaker 3>way as well, where like everything sounds creepy and goofy
<v Speaker 3>and and evil, and yeah, that were commedy and.
<v Speaker 6>There's a giant's name.
<v Speaker 1>Tirants cool Wester. Like all the FMV stuff that intro
<v Speaker 1>is amazing.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, even the way the mechanics are set up
<v Speaker 3>like it's a survival horror game like back then, having
<v Speaker 3>to have the the the ink ribbons and trying to
<v Speaker 3>get through a part that was like I'm scared, but
<v Speaker 3>I got to get through this or else I'm not
<v Speaker 3>going to be able to save and that increases the
<v Speaker 3>tension kind of just makes the whole thing.
<v Speaker 6>I get why games won't do that anymore. But it
<v Speaker 6>was like incredible. Even saving is this like tense decision, like,
<v Speaker 6>oh is it worth saving you right now? Everything about
<v Speaker 6>that game just builds up tension in this really pleasant way.
<v Speaker 6>And also like it's so neat that you do have
<v Speaker 6>two characters. You can play it as uh Jill or
<v Speaker 6>as Chris, and it's different experiences in a lot of ways.
<v Speaker 1>I probably loaded the game up once as Chris and
<v Speaker 1>saw the six inventory slots. It's like, fuck that nowhere
<v Speaker 1>near up with eight? Like fu right.
<v Speaker 6>It doesn't even know how to play the piano. It
<v Speaker 6>has to get Rebecca to do that, doesn't have a
<v Speaker 6>lock pick, Like yeah, no, no.
<v Speaker 2>Master of anything. No, I'll go next. And I'm really
<v Speaker 2>torn here a doctor, it's on the BombCast dock, I
<v Speaker 2>got it. Oh, keep in tally cool. I'm really torn here, gents,
<v Speaker 2>because I know that Silent Hill two is the more
<v Speaker 2>popular game, but Silent Hill one scared the shit out
<v Speaker 2>of me as a child and as a full grown adult.
<v Speaker 2>You think the atmosphere that it sets and like really
<v Speaker 2>using the limitations of the PlayStation one but really utilizing
<v Speaker 2>the fog really well. And I think kind of being
<v Speaker 2>in a different vein than Resident Evil, where you do
<v Speaker 2>have weapons, you do have a means of getting rid
<v Speaker 2>of enemies, but you're really really fucked if you get
<v Speaker 2>yourself into a bad situation. And then the puzzles and
<v Speaker 2>the atmosphere of going back and forth so much similar
<v Speaker 2>to Resident Evil. Yes, but I feel like, uh, the
<v Speaker 2>the atmosphere that it was presenting, and just like the
<v Speaker 2>sound design, uh, especially goofy sounds. I wouldn't say schalorpy sounds.
<v Speaker 2>Schilorpy is like a parenthesis positive right, Yeah, But like
<v Speaker 2>Silent Hill won for whatever reason, and it was really
<v Speaker 2>it's tough for me to say Silent Hill one versus two,
<v Speaker 2>especially after playing through uh the sound Hill to remake,
<v Speaker 2>which is really well done. But Silent Hill won for
<v Speaker 2>whatever reason. Maybe because it ends on a zanier note,
<v Speaker 2>or maybe it has like all the trappings that I
<v Speaker 2>look for. Maybe it reminds me more of a Twin
<v Speaker 2>Peaks and like the weird religious stuff at the end
<v Speaker 2>of it. I would like to nominate Silent Hill one
<v Speaker 2>over Silent Hill two.
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you because both of them, I feel like
<v Speaker 1>I rented and god like I played through like it
<v Speaker 1>did with Resident Eevil. It's basically every survival organ and
<v Speaker 1>I remember being more scared by one. I just remember
<v Speaker 1>the tone being so scary and being so different than
<v Speaker 1>Resident Evil in like that psychological way rather than the
<v Speaker 1>jump scare way. And two I just remember getting more
<v Speaker 1>frustrated by it. My memory of two was always just
<v Speaker 1>like trying to open doors and apartment building and they're
<v Speaker 1>all locked, and that I just got bored and frustrated
<v Speaker 1>with it, whereas one, I just remember like going going
<v Speaker 1>into the school and there's weird like little ghost children
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and.
<v Speaker 6>I remember just being way way creepier to me. I mean,
<v Speaker 6>I haven't played one. I only played sound Hill two.
<v Speaker 6>I played that Remax recently and I was very very
<v Speaker 6>impressed by it. So, you know, so I can't really
<v Speaker 6>say if it's creepier scarier than one, I'm gonna have
<v Speaker 6>to go with you two on it. But yeah, I'd
<v Speaker 6>be completely fine if it was sound Hill two for consideration,
<v Speaker 6>is all I'm saying something.
<v Speaker 2>Or there are parts of Silent Hill too, like in
<v Speaker 2>retrospect and where it feels like to me, And you know,
<v Speaker 2>this is going to be very different than how other
<v Speaker 2>people experience the game because they played it when they
<v Speaker 2>were much younger, and I played as an adult. But
<v Speaker 2>there's parts of two where it feels a little heavy
<v Speaker 2>handed and it feels like it is trying to tell
<v Speaker 2>you more through its metaphors rather than to scare you,
<v Speaker 2>because like the opening of sound Hill one did like
<v Speaker 2>to stick with me and was very unnerving for a while.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I will say it's it's almost more psychological sound
<v Speaker 6>Hill two. You know, part of it is, I guess
<v Speaker 6>it's not really doing like a lot of things like
<v Speaker 6>jump scares or whatnot. I kind of like having a
<v Speaker 6>few jump scares in these games sometimes, right, it gets
<v Speaker 6>the hard you know, the dog going through the window. Right,
<v Speaker 6>it's kind of what keeps you, uh, sort of excited
<v Speaker 6>and on edge a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was my questions. Like, yeah, the sound Hill too.
<v Speaker 3>I know it's famous for exploring the trauma of the
<v Speaker 3>characters and and all the enemies represent sort of inner turmoil.
<v Speaker 3>I never knew Sound Hill one was exactly the same,
<v Speaker 3>or if it was like more about setting and the
<v Speaker 3>fog and the uneasiness and stuff like that.
<v Speaker 2>I think because it was like the first game to
<v Speaker 2>try and hit uneasiness like that, it felt like he
<v Speaker 2>was using those tools more rather than trying to deal
<v Speaker 2>with these psychological internal right, or just like the flog
<v Speaker 2>played such a big deal, like roaming around and realizing like, oh,
<v Speaker 2>I really am limited eating my AMMO in my weapons,
<v Speaker 2>and like even my actions against the enemies.
<v Speaker 3>I'll nominate one if we're ready. Yeah, yeah, PT. I
<v Speaker 3>think that we're just talking about something that scares people
<v Speaker 3>as a game. I don't think we need to like
<v Speaker 3>dismiss this just because it's the playable teaser, that's the name.
<v Speaker 3>It is very scary and it is a game, and
<v Speaker 3>it was so influential that basically Resident Evil had to
<v Speaker 3>kind of follow it up and be like, well we
<v Speaker 3>should probab maybe have more similarities to that going forward.
<v Speaker 3>PT just is a really condensed horror experience of putting
<v Speaker 3>you in this hallway, having you go through that hallway
<v Speaker 3>over and over again. You have expectations of how things
<v Speaker 3>will work, and then it begins messing with you. It
<v Speaker 3>lulls you into a false sense of security, and then
<v Speaker 3>always sort of delivers on an undermining that sense of
<v Speaker 3>security and the most horrifying way. Often often I think
<v Speaker 3>Lisa's showing up down the hallway. It's just especially because
<v Speaker 3>the visuals that Fox Engine was so good with that
<v Speaker 3>lightning and the shadow of the character at into the hallway,
<v Speaker 3>it looks so realistic that it was petrifying just to
<v Speaker 3>take another step down the hallway, and then and then
<v Speaker 3>it was it's this fun little puzzle box as well
<v Speaker 3>of trying to figure out how these things work and
<v Speaker 3>interact with one another, how to actually clear the game
<v Speaker 3>so you could see the little treat at the end.
<v Speaker 3>It's just really well done all around. And in terms
<v Speaker 3>of atmosphere and visuals and and tension, it nails all
<v Speaker 3>of those. It's about its about as good as any
<v Speaker 3>horror game ever has.
<v Speaker 1>And I wish I would have played it more. I
<v Speaker 1>mean I downloaded when it came out. I played like
<v Speaker 1>maybe five or ten minutes a bit and I was like, okay, cool,
<v Speaker 1>Well I'm curious what this turns into. You know, it's
<v Speaker 1>a thing of like I like, waiting till the poll
<v Speaker 1>game's out, and so.
<v Speaker 3>I never Yeah, but that was never That was never
<v Speaker 3>going to be the full game. There's gonna be a
<v Speaker 3>whole other thing.
<v Speaker 6>I get that now.
<v Speaker 1>The Island Hills thing was going to be the thing
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, I think I was like, maybe
<v Speaker 1>that's why I didn't take it serious and didn't really
<v Speaker 1>play it. But I do thinking it did have a
<v Speaker 1>good atmosphere. I just like, I don't think I got
<v Speaker 1>to least in the hallway or anything like that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and we can't overlook and I grub You
<v Speaker 2>talked about how it kind of overhauled Resident Evil, but
<v Speaker 2>it inspired a whole new generation of yeahs horror games.
<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely there. Every horor game was trying to be
<v Speaker 3>PT for a while.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Like now if you look at indie horror games, it's
<v Speaker 2>either trying to be a PS one game, a Resident Evil,
<v Speaker 2>Silent Hill, or a PT.
<v Speaker 3>Like yeah, definitely, that's that's still happening.
<v Speaker 1>Uh, let me nominate Amnesia, the first one. I remember
<v Speaker 1>playing that, and uh, it was just the idea of
<v Speaker 1>like you can't even fight back, like, oh, this horrifying
<v Speaker 1>thing is here, I don't even quite know what it
<v Speaker 1>looks like, and all I can do is like hide
<v Speaker 1>underneath the desk and turn off my light or whatever.
<v Speaker 1>I remember playing that at night one night, all the
<v Speaker 1>lights were out, middle of the night, my girlfriend at
<v Speaker 1>the time was asleep, and I remember like she came
<v Speaker 1>out to ask me a question or something at one point,
<v Speaker 1>and I seriously like threw my headset off and like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>it's like not many games have gotten that reaction out
<v Speaker 1>of me, so uh yeah, and it's just great.
<v Speaker 2>Uh skipped the first do you want to do? You
<v Speaker 2>want to nominate two? If you got them?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 6>No, I went first. We're good, We're good, but you
<v Speaker 6>went first.
<v Speaker 3>Oh.
<v Speaker 6>I kind of jumped in there a resident e boy.
<v Speaker 6>I think did I heard mind making that up?
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like we just all just kind of said, right, well, that's.
<v Speaker 6>Fine, I'll go but yeah, good. I haven't played it
<v Speaker 6>yet because I was a Caliver so long, but that
<v Speaker 6>one comes up a lot from other people as specifically
<v Speaker 6>just for being scary. I think Dead Space, you could say,
<v Speaker 6>the original or the remake. I think that that flavor
<v Speaker 6>of sci fi horror is always really interesting, right, They're
<v Speaker 6>always kind of chasing that alien dream, which is a
<v Speaker 6>good dream to chase. There's only very specific about how
<v Speaker 6>that kind of scary is scary. You know, an abandoned
<v Speaker 6>space station with stuff half working and just blood smeared
<v Speaker 6>all over the walls. And I do like that, you know,
<v Speaker 6>it is a bit more action heavy, right, it's taking
<v Speaker 6>stuff from Resident Evil four, but it is scarier than
<v Speaker 6>a Resident Evil four. It doesn't necessarily feel like a
<v Speaker 6>full blown action game, especially since you had to be
<v Speaker 6>so precise. Yeah, well, maybe isn't Resident Evil one scarce,
<v Speaker 6>but you are being a little bit careful and it
<v Speaker 6>is much, you know, beneficial to actually think about shooting
<v Speaker 6>off the lambs and not just spamming your shots at
<v Speaker 6>these people. But it is so much just that atmosphere
<v Speaker 6>of this spaceship space station and going to all these
<v Speaker 6>different places in the way that they're you know, tricking
<v Speaker 6>you with lights with the Ui Ui SOVERI good in
<v Speaker 6>that game. So yeah, that space stands out for me.
<v Speaker 2>Awesome, wonderful. Hmm okay, I uh, I want to nominate
<v Speaker 2>Resident Evil seven.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is the one.
<v Speaker 2>I'm yeah, so I was. I had. My expectations were
<v Speaker 2>very low post six, despite enjoying playing six with one
<v Speaker 2>of my good friends. I just thought that they Resident
<v Speaker 2>Evil had jumped the shark and that we weren't going
<v Speaker 2>to be super horror focused anymore. We've kind of hit
<v Speaker 2>like the action tone or whatever. But this was such
<v Speaker 2>a good reset for the series that it feels like
<v Speaker 2>it's completely obliterated the mental presence in my head at
<v Speaker 2>least a five and six because this is so tang
<v Speaker 2>scary and one of the only instances where I was
<v Speaker 2>that friend at a party that refuses to be in
<v Speaker 2>a room while a game is being played, and then
<v Speaker 2>I got made to play it in VR because I
<v Speaker 2>was being a baby about Oh hell yeah.
<v Speaker 1>The dr aspect can't be understated here. You know, I'm
<v Speaker 1>not the biggest VR fan, but like I do think
<v Speaker 1>playing that game in VR is probably the scariest video
<v Speaker 1>game experience I've ever had.
<v Speaker 3>And I can't imagine something scarier.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and it's it's I'll never forget. I was
<v Speaker 1>sitting next to a bonk and she hadn't done a
<v Speaker 1>lot of VR at the time, and I was like,
<v Speaker 1>all right, give it a shot, and she was in
<v Speaker 1>a safe room. I put the VR on PSVR and
<v Speaker 1>then it was like it was the part We're supposed
<v Speaker 1>to go down into the basement and there's all the
<v Speaker 1>weird goopy guys in like the cemetery or the crematorium place.
<v Speaker 1>And I remember her like, Okay, I'm gonna go down
<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking over at her because her character is
<v Speaker 1>not moving down the stairs I can see on the
<v Speaker 1>TV and I just see her chest start, like, oh okay,
<v Speaker 1>she's trying to like work herself up to go down
<v Speaker 1>a staircase and a video game. And if that was
<v Speaker 1>just on the TV, you would just go down, you know.
<v Speaker 1>But it is so so good and so scary and VR.
<v Speaker 1>I would absolutely put that on there as the second
<v Speaker 1>resident able. Yeah, that'd be the scariest resident.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, just about being the scariest, which isn't always
<v Speaker 6>the case with these mount Rushmoor's right, sure, but yeah,
<v Speaker 6>definitely the scariest.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Grub, I think it's in front.
<v Speaker 3>Of you now, Okay, I wonder what you guys think
<v Speaker 3>about Eternal Darkness, because I think there's some scary parts
<v Speaker 3>in it here, are there? But I don't overall, I
<v Speaker 3>think it's more like a fun sort of Cthulhu. What
<v Speaker 3>is that love crafty and Eldritch thank you? Yes, Eldrich
<v Speaker 3>themed horror adventure game where it's like kind of almost
<v Speaker 3>action adventure and not super scary, but it is like
<v Speaker 3>technically a scary game and the scary game genre.
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say that seeing seeing Backlar play it, a
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. Now we're think I wouldn't. I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I know, we're playing like talking to our friends in
<v Speaker 1>the daytime, but like it's you know, I.
<v Speaker 6>Played through that game too again right before that. I
<v Speaker 6>still thought it was fun, but you know whatever, it's
<v Speaker 6>a frontloaded game with the scares. Like the scariest moment
<v Speaker 6>from that game that everyone remembers is the bathtub, and
<v Speaker 6>that's an incredible scare, right like when Jeff and I did,
<v Speaker 6>I'm not rush more of scary moments that made it there.
<v Speaker 6>Like after that, I'm like, what else was scary? And
<v Speaker 6>there were definitely some things, but it definitely does kind
<v Speaker 6>of fall off from the true horror aspect what you said.
<v Speaker 6>It becomes more love crafting, which isn't personally my favorite
<v Speaker 6>flavor of horror, so misses a little.
<v Speaker 3>I do like that stuff, and I still don't think
<v Speaker 3>it's like, it's not that scary. And then the sanity
<v Speaker 3>effects they are very cool the first time. Yeah yeah,
<v Speaker 3>but it's uh yeah, So I'm I'm like, Okay, well,
<v Speaker 3>if not that one, what else would I put up there?
<v Speaker 3>I mean I would be like, hey, maybe five nights
<v Speaker 3>at Freddy's. But I don't think it's gonna make our cut.
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it would make our mount rush more. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>just because I feel like that's way past we're past
<v Speaker 2>away target demo for it.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I played, I played. I played that first one
<v Speaker 3>and thought like, yeah, I like this, this is a
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not much, but it's it's playing around
<v Speaker 3>with that fun animatronics and and how I just think
<v Speaker 3>those things are scary on their own, and this game
<v Speaker 3>is playing around in that space really well. But I
<v Speaker 3>don't know, it's not going to probably make our list.
<v Speaker 6>It's five Nights of Friday, just the modern seventh Guest,
<v Speaker 6>and also should we talk about seventh guests?
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's the modern night trap.
<v Speaker 6>Really, I will call you a boomer and I'm older
<v Speaker 6>than you. Yeah, where's the seventh Guest? The seventh Guests
<v Speaker 6>mattered back in nineteen ninety three Darted, It helped sell CD,
<v Speaker 6>Wrong Drives.
<v Speaker 2>FMV okay, okay, So we have two kind of nominations.
<v Speaker 2>Mike Manatti, I think the wheels back in front of
<v Speaker 2>you unless we want to start cutting stuff or.
<v Speaker 6>To bring up the Alan Wake games. And I'm trying
<v Speaker 6>to im trying to sigh for myself if I went
<v Speaker 6>nominated for this at least because they are scary games.
<v Speaker 6>And yet, like the reason I like these games anyways
<v Speaker 6>usually doesn't have that much ado with the scary elements
<v Speaker 6>of it. Right, Like everybody's favorite part from Allen Week
<v Speaker 6>two was the wacky musical section, Right, Yeah, there's nothing
<v Speaker 6>scary about that, and I don't like one what I
<v Speaker 6>like about that games like the splash, like mechanics and
<v Speaker 6>kind of the shooting. There's some good vibes, there's some
<v Speaker 6>definitely some horror elements. There's definitely in two there are
<v Speaker 6>some scary alms. Maybe a Way two deserves uh sittering,
<v Speaker 6>but I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely love Alan Wake two, but I wouldn't put
<v Speaker 2>it on the mount rush more because I think there's
<v Speaker 2>enough scares in it to make it a scary game, but.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it doesn't rise above that.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, afterwards, like it winds up feeling more like a
<v Speaker 2>thriller rather than like a horror movie. Yeah, if we
<v Speaker 2>were to like equate it to movie terms, because like,
<v Speaker 2>like Zodiac is a thriller, but there's like a couple
<v Speaker 2>horror scenes in it that are unnerving, and there's definitely
<v Speaker 2>parts of Allen Way two that are like horror focused
<v Speaker 2>and unnerving, and that makes you kind of question a
<v Speaker 2>bunch of things. But even with the bray Wyatt style scares,
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't put it on the Mount rush More of
<v Speaker 2>horror games.
<v Speaker 1>Maggots on the screen.
<v Speaker 3>Whoa, But what about Alien Isolation or Until Dawn? I
<v Speaker 3>just want to get your guys temperatures on those. I
<v Speaker 3>haven't played either.
<v Speaker 2>Really.
<v Speaker 3>I played a little bit of Alien.
<v Speaker 1>I played a little Alien. I'd beat Until Dawn. Until
<v Speaker 1>Don's a good game. Yeah, But I mean, if we
<v Speaker 1>decide that we're doing these are the scariest games of
<v Speaker 1>all time, there's a couple like jump scare things where
<v Speaker 1>it's like I interacted with this drawer and a raccoon
<v Speaker 1>jumped out of me.
<v Speaker 6>You know, like there's.
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't have to be the scariest, but Mount Rushmore of
<v Speaker 3>scary games.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, anything really that's scary about him?
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think I still agree with that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>I think I probably played it in a wrong setting
<v Speaker 2>for me to be really scared, because I played it
<v Speaker 2>amongst a bunch of friends and we were kind of like,
<v Speaker 2>oh and like goofing the whole time. So there were
<v Speaker 2>definitely jump scare moments, but it started feeling a little
<v Speaker 2>too sawish where it was like very gory rather than scary.
<v Speaker 6>Sure, I'm not a big slasher fan.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, No, I've.
<v Speaker 1>Seen some people mentioned in the chat and I think
<v Speaker 1>this is worth it, and I'm curious when you beat it.
<v Speaker 1>But Outlast I played that at a PAS. It was
<v Speaker 1>my first experience with them. They put you in a
<v Speaker 1>dark room and you just play it, and I remember
<v Speaker 1>it's scaring the shit out of me as I played it,
<v Speaker 1>and then I don't remember why I didn't play through
<v Speaker 1>it when it came out.
<v Speaker 6>I've any who played the whole game. Does it keep
<v Speaker 6>that up the whole time?
<v Speaker 3>I haven't played the whole game, but I think I
<v Speaker 3>played a good bit of it when the PS four
<v Speaker 3>first came out because it was like an early PS
<v Speaker 3>four game, if I'm remembering, And I thought it was
<v Speaker 3>scary the whole time I was playing it, for sure.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's got that like you know viewfinder camera thing.
<v Speaker 1>You're going through this you know, dark hospital, and I've
<v Speaker 1>ever been pretty fucking scary.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it definitely is, but it's like for
<v Speaker 3>me because that's first person, right, and it felt like
<v Speaker 3>I fell like another one of these there, like kind
<v Speaker 3>of going in the wake of PT a little bit.
<v Speaker 3>But maybe that's not right. Maybe maybe that was maybe
<v Speaker 3>it was his own thing. So I don't know, but
<v Speaker 3>I I just feel like PT fills that category on
<v Speaker 3>the Mount Rushmore for sure.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. So I pulled up an IGN
<v Speaker 2>list of the top twenty five best horror games, and
<v Speaker 2>I also solicited a couple of items from folks in
<v Speaker 2>chat here. I'm just going to quickly rattle through them
<v Speaker 2>and see if we feel inclined to add any to
<v Speaker 2>our personal list before we rattle away. Ready, boys, yep,
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's see stuff we haven't included. Stay out
<v Speaker 2>of the House. Don't know that that is.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that is.
<v Speaker 2>Slender the eight Pages.
<v Speaker 1>I did play that. It was kind of spooky, but
<v Speaker 1>not really for.
<v Speaker 6>That was kind of a fuck a flash in the
<v Speaker 6>pan a bit, the whole slender Man thing.
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, yeah, definitely correction, Doctor Ryan Chad says, Outlast
<v Speaker 1>was twenty thirteen. PT was twenty fourteen.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I was just like himself there, Yeah,
<v Speaker 3>it was like, yeah, I remember that actually coming up
<v Speaker 3>before because PT was a little bit later.
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the evil within mm yeah, I was wondering about this.
<v Speaker 6>People like the second one more right, I didn't love it.
<v Speaker 2>Like that way. Yeah, ooh, I this crossed my head,
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't stay there. Condemned.
<v Speaker 3>I liked Condemned and Contempt Contempt to. I didn't finish
<v Speaker 3>either one, but I liked what I played one, but
<v Speaker 3>I kind of a definitely scary.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like first person melee combat and stuff, but
<v Speaker 1>it was tense. Yeah, but yeah, not yet on here.
<v Speaker 3>But those are just murder simulators.
<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking about murder simulators, Manhunt.
<v Speaker 3>Oh there you go frustrated? Is that blake worthy?
<v Speaker 1>No? No, no, not even if we played at the
<v Speaker 1>headset thing, I thought that was funny.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, where's in the dark dan Hunt? That'd be funny hunt?
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, all right inside.
<v Speaker 1>No, I would put Limb.
<v Speaker 2>Put Limbo.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean.
<v Speaker 6>I guess they're kind of scary, but.
<v Speaker 2>I'll just put Limbo here for now and we will
<v Speaker 2>cut it.
<v Speaker 6>Limbo is not terrible, and it's definitely a different kind
<v Speaker 6>of scary game.
<v Speaker 4>Right.
<v Speaker 6>If you're looking for variety, definitely throw that one in there.
<v Speaker 6>It's a quick Jaunt, especially if you don't like spiders,
<v Speaker 6>then yeah, Limbo's gonna get you.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I won't play that visage never heard of it,
<v Speaker 2>massage or vision visage, saying visage fasmophobia. Very scary game,
<v Speaker 2>but it's a fun game to play, though.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it is scary though.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, god, I think it's like right there on
<v Speaker 3>the border of line of like, oh yeah, that is
<v Speaker 3>sort of an institution. Now it could be up on
<v Speaker 3>the Okay, let's.
<v Speaker 2>Let's put it. I'll put on this list.
<v Speaker 3>Then, you know, I think we do if we're doing
<v Speaker 3>this like five years from now, I think Fastmophobia gets
<v Speaker 3>on the Mount Rushmore pretty easily.
<v Speaker 6>You know there's a Teddy Roosevelt slot, right yep.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Dead by Daylight.
<v Speaker 6>Uh, that's more fun.
<v Speaker 1>Asymmetric multiplayer Scarya.
<v Speaker 2>Soma Cruise, Nope, clock Tower.
<v Speaker 1>I always had the idea that was scary as hell,
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't have a saturn, just the idea of
<v Speaker 1>what big dude was due with big ass scissors chasing
<v Speaker 1>around the house like a terminator like that sounds scary
<v Speaker 1>as hell.
<v Speaker 2>And you know that he can't run with scissors. So
<v Speaker 2>now walking very carefully. Yeahs Scarier weird.
<v Speaker 6>Out tried that and all he got out of it
<v Speaker 6>was a best selling.
<v Speaker 2>Album Forbidden Siren two.
<v Speaker 6>Never heard of it.
<v Speaker 2>I think this may be an offshoot of the Fatal
<v Speaker 2>Frames here.
<v Speaker 1>I never played, I like rented the first one or something,
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of it.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, uh, all right, you mentioned those mentioned Ari four
<v Speaker 2>not making the scary games.
<v Speaker 6>Listen, No, that's scary.
<v Speaker 1>There are scary moments. I'm glad you guys got around
<v Speaker 1>last night to the Regenerators because if I was thinking
<v Speaker 1>about like one spot that actually scared me in that game,
<v Speaker 1>there is the part where the Regenerator like bursts out
<v Speaker 1>and they're like close quarters in the freezer and stuff
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, chainsaw guy. There are lots of scary moments,
<v Speaker 1>but it's mostly oh shit, action oriented, you know. If
<v Speaker 1>there weren't so many like better Resident Evil games for
<v Speaker 1>this specific like ones.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then the last one that we haven't covered
<v Speaker 2>that that ig in list had was Left for Dead two.
<v Speaker 2>Not scary, I know, not scary.
<v Speaker 6>That's not scary. They don't really talk about alien isolation
<v Speaker 6>very much other Jeff Rubs Oh right.
<v Speaker 2>Right, I haven't played it. So I can't speak to it.
<v Speaker 6>If you played, it is very scary, Yeah, I almost.
<v Speaker 6>It's like, what what would you rather have in that
<v Speaker 6>kind of sci fi horror slot though that are dead
<v Speaker 6>Space Face. I think Alien Isolation is probably scarier. I
<v Speaker 6>think that Faces maybe a more robust game.
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to think about influence too much, but
<v Speaker 2>I feel like maybe dead Space might have more in
<v Speaker 2>the long run.
<v Speaker 1>Sure, Yeah, that Space is really good.
<v Speaker 2>Also, if you're not going to have like an R
<v Speaker 2>four style game, I feel like dead Space fills that.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like more action heavy, but still scary.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Space was very scary.
<v Speaker 6>I see some people chest saying Bloodborne, which is kind
<v Speaker 6>of interesting. It's a little I get I see it
<v Speaker 6>a little bit, you.
<v Speaker 3>Know, Elder g as well.
<v Speaker 1>It's not any scarier than like any Soul's game, you know, I.
<v Speaker 2>Think it is.
<v Speaker 6>I think it is scarier than the other Souls game.
<v Speaker 6>Maybe not by a lot. But if you ask me
<v Speaker 6>what's the scariest Soul's game, I would say blood I'm.
<v Speaker 3>Just realizing that I've been conflating Clocktower and Clockwork Night
<v Speaker 3>my entire life.
<v Speaker 6>Those are very very different.
<v Speaker 2>Now.
<v Speaker 3>I never played either one.
<v Speaker 6>I played a lot of Clockwork Night as a kid,
<v Speaker 6>and very little clock a fund out.
<v Speaker 2>Has anyone checked out Phantasmagoria two?
<v Speaker 3>No?
<v Speaker 2>No, okay, I don't think so. All right, we've we've
<v Speaker 2>pretty much covered a lot of the other games that
<v Speaker 2>folks are suggesting. Let me just do another scan Last
<v Speaker 2>of Us, but I don't know, not enough.
<v Speaker 3>Unless it was part two. I really hated going in
<v Speaker 3>that hospital.
<v Speaker 6>Sure yeah, but it resident before style like yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think it needs I don't think it's
<v Speaker 3>gonna make the cut.
<v Speaker 2>And then a couple of folks and Chuck have been
<v Speaker 2>saying night Trap, that's a different thing.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would. I would put Fineff before I put
<v Speaker 3>Night Trap.
<v Speaker 6>I would put Seventh Guests, I would put the Eleventh Hour.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, now you're just talking security number seven.
<v Speaker 6>I remember watching my brother play Eleventh Hour and I
<v Speaker 6>was like, because it had the veils, like this is
<v Speaker 6>I think ghost are real?
<v Speaker 2>Who?
<v Speaker 6>There was a there was a Alone in the Dark
<v Speaker 6>fmv CD wrong game that I had as a kid
<v Speaker 6>that was awesome.
<v Speaker 3>Same you been Edward before, He's been Edward Carnby this whole.
<v Speaker 6>Time, I got Carby tired.
<v Speaker 3>What about a Splatterhouse twenty ten.
<v Speaker 2>You like that, Jan, No, no, no, Spiderhouse one and
<v Speaker 2>two roll it's just John Cena an adjacent mask.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, what about the Haunting starring Polter Guy, Poulter Guy.
<v Speaker 6>Pretty good, It's not bad.
<v Speaker 2>All right.
<v Speaker 3>I think we have our four in our short list here?
<v Speaker 3>Which do you want to read the whole shortlist we have?
<v Speaker 2>Jan? Uh, yeah, Well, I'll start from the bottom and
<v Speaker 2>we'll go up to the top of stuff that we've
<v Speaker 2>considered and put down on a list. So we have
<v Speaker 2>FAsMA Phobia, Limbo Until Dawn, Alan Wake, Eternal Darkness, Sanities, Requiem,
<v Speaker 2>five Nights at Freddy's, Resident Evil seven, Dead Space, Amnesia, PT,
<v Speaker 2>Silent Hill one, and Resident Evil one.
<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing, Yeah, I think those first three are
<v Speaker 3>I know PT might have a little bit hard time.
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of you didn't play it, but
<v Speaker 3>I think those first three are probably a lot I
<v Speaker 3>take your word for it. On Residevil, Silent Hill, and PT.
<v Speaker 3>That means was one space. Now do you guys disagree
<v Speaker 3>with that?
<v Speaker 1>And I think we definitely put them as the top
<v Speaker 1>contenders right now. I would also say, let's bold already seven?
<v Speaker 6>Okay, again, that might be hard to just and again
<v Speaker 6>it's like a requirement that can't be more than one
<v Speaker 6>game fred series. But because there's like so many, like
<v Speaker 6>I don't know that.
<v Speaker 2>Space, it's all so different enough from the original first person.
<v Speaker 3>Conversation.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, can go ahead and cut five nights in
<v Speaker 2>Eternal Darkness. Yeah yeah, I'll take out away.
<v Speaker 3>Ye I think cut limbo. Yeah, honestly, okay for me
<v Speaker 3>if we're not, if it's and not receiveble seven, I
<v Speaker 3>think it might be fastmophobia.
<v Speaker 1>There's something there. Yeah, it genuinely it's even though you're
<v Speaker 1>playing with friends and stuff like that, and it's a
<v Speaker 1>good streaming game and everything. Like remember I only played
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. Remember one time I like screamed
<v Speaker 1>at something like holy.
<v Speaker 3>Shit, it's got the VR thing as well, and it was.
<v Speaker 2>To do proximity audio.
<v Speaker 1>Really well yeah, oh I.
<v Speaker 6>Just don't want to talking stuff and everything.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's fine. Yeah, that's cool.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean having to like having to like, like
<v Speaker 3>I think, like find some light source to do anything
<v Speaker 3>in the basement because it's completely just black and I'm
<v Speaker 3>in the VR down there.
<v Speaker 6>It's yeah, I am some hesitation with with dead Space.
<v Speaker 6>What's what's kind of Well, no, there's a lot of
<v Speaker 6>good ones here right now.
<v Speaker 1>I fucking love dead Space, Like I like dead Space
<v Speaker 1>definitely more than like Fastmophobia or PTE.
<v Speaker 6>But I think for these purposes, you know.
<v Speaker 2>Right, I might sooner cut pt to I would seven
<v Speaker 2>and fasmophobia I would.
<v Speaker 6>I would do that.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I do think I's wrong, guys. It's pt IS.
<v Speaker 3>Is is emblematic and iconic, iconic in this space. I'm
<v Speaker 3>scary games now. It is so important to horror games
<v Speaker 3>have been for the last ten.
<v Speaker 6>Years, even tho I've been playing. I think I had
<v Speaker 6>this like argument with Jeff once and then like him
<v Speaker 6>and everybody else out to me to plant like not
<v Speaker 6>not like yelling at me, but they like convinced me.
<v Speaker 6>I'm like, no, I think I get it. I think
<v Speaker 6>pt probably makes a lot of sense.
<v Speaker 2>So is the real argument here? If Sound Hill one
<v Speaker 2>belongs on here? Oh wait, it's a heavy hitter, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's heavy hitter, cult classic for sure.
<v Speaker 6>I mean I put something again, I haven't played one.
<v Speaker 6>I would put two up there for saying even you know,
<v Speaker 6>more fitting than two is.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Silent Hill one is definitely in the top
<v Speaker 1>four games on this list that have scared me personally, sure,
<v Speaker 1>without a doubt.
<v Speaker 3>I mean, if we do Resival one, Silent Hill one PT,
<v Speaker 3>and residueval seven, like we don't feel too great about
<v Speaker 3>that or what?
<v Speaker 1>Actually, that's not bad?
<v Speaker 2>Say that again?
<v Speaker 3>The one that's the ones that are bolded.
<v Speaker 6>I'm kind of okay with that. It might be me
<v Speaker 6>who's getting a little stuck up on like we gotta
<v Speaker 6>gets evil too, and you're right, there's a good reason too.
<v Speaker 2>But let's let's cut in. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, Mike,
<v Speaker 2>I love dead Space and scared the crap out of me.
<v Speaker 2>I had to wrink it twice. Are we cool cutting
<v Speaker 2>dead space?
<v Speaker 6>Dead Space? I do think it's maybe phobia? Are seven
<v Speaker 6>for that last spot?
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's let's do a quick recap. Currently, current locks
<v Speaker 2>for sure are he one, sound Hill one p T
<v Speaker 2>and fighting for that fourth slot is Resident Evil seven.
<v Speaker 2>In fasmophobia, I think it's seven.
<v Speaker 6>One thing is like, I think seven is a very
<v Speaker 6>again up. It's directly inspired by PT already and it's
<v Speaker 6>why we got that. It's a good thing. If fasmophobia
<v Speaker 6>is representing something very different on this list, the multipoer, I.
<v Speaker 3>Could I agree with what Mike's saying to like, if
<v Speaker 3>we do go already seven, the way I would feel
<v Speaker 3>good about it is like, yeah, PTE started it, and
<v Speaker 3>Receival seven sort of cemented as like this is how
<v Speaker 3>you do the scariest kind of game right now. And
<v Speaker 3>so it's like there's a lineage there that I'm okay with,
<v Speaker 3>like representing on here.
<v Speaker 2>Then cut seven. I do think.
<v Speaker 3>I think that, Like, for if I was like, legitimately
<v Speaker 3>gonna go carve something into a mountain, I would not
<v Speaker 3>put ARI seven up there because we already have ARI
<v Speaker 3>one and I would put fasmophobia. But we're not doing that,
<v Speaker 3>and so I'm like that's why I'm like, I could
<v Speaker 3>go either way.
<v Speaker 6>We're not cutting I see people's child. I'll just cut
<v Speaker 6>resivule one.
<v Speaker 2>No, no, again.
<v Speaker 6>It's it's not specifically just what's the scariest game ever,
<v Speaker 6>it's the Mount Rushmore scary.
<v Speaker 3>Is George Washington. George Washing is not the best president.
<v Speaker 6>You don't cut George Washington.
<v Speaker 2>Speak for yourself. Here's great songs in Hamilton.
<v Speaker 6>George Washington.
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I didn't know that. Honestly, didn't know that.
<v Speaker 6>He was like, okay, okay, if Tom could have heard that.
<v Speaker 2>He was like the thirdly. Okay, fine, but.
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't look like George Washington.
<v Speaker 6>Oh oh did you not have the white wig? I
<v Speaker 6>bet I was looking for that nobody.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was played by a man of color.
<v Speaker 6>Yes, Oh, I don't know that everybody is played by
<v Speaker 6>a man of color in that Yep.
<v Speaker 1>I like I said, I wasn't really paying attention to it.
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, the floor seven put fast mophobia.
<v Speaker 2>Let's just do it. Say that again.
<v Speaker 3>Let's cut recival seven. Just do fast mophobia. Let's just
<v Speaker 3>do it, Dan, I know you really wanted to recival seven,
<v Speaker 3>but we have Resident Evil up there already. I think
<v Speaker 3>it's fast mophobia as.
<v Speaker 1>Long as I'm on record saying I disagree. But it's
<v Speaker 1>not like a wild thing. I think pastmophobia is very good.
<v Speaker 1>It does, and I understand where you're coming from.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, we have done it.
<v Speaker 2>Our hands are clean, there's no blood, no knives had
<v Speaker 2>to be brought out. We had a civil discussion amongst friends.
<v Speaker 2>Giant Bomb has crowned the mount rushmore of scary games
<v Speaker 2>we have, Uh, we want to go descending order. I'll
<v Speaker 2>take the next one grub Dan, then Mike got I
<v Speaker 2>don't have a doc open, but sure, well you say
<v Speaker 2>pasmophobia after Dan?
<v Speaker 6>All right, just well, okay when you speak to me,
<v Speaker 6>it's stop on my foot.
<v Speaker 2>Johnson, all right, the Giant Bomb's Mount rushmore Scary games.
<v Speaker 2>Is Resident Evil one Silent Hill.
<v Speaker 1>One Resident Evil seven?
<v Speaker 2>No, no, you have the dock in front of you.
<v Speaker 1>Yeahsident is wrong pt.
<v Speaker 2>BT okay and Mike fasm phobia. Yeah, we did it, folks,
<v Speaker 2>And we did another podcast and we are complete with
<v Speaker 2>another week in the books. Folks, Extra life coming at
<v Speaker 2>you next weekend. Stay tuned, peep your peepers. A lot
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun things planned GB Midwest. We're gonna
<v Speaker 2>have a good time, a lot of you're gonna have
<v Speaker 2>a ball. Maybe they'll have a little Astrobot Invitational in
<v Speaker 2>person all on Dan's account.
<v Speaker 6>Dan wins that crew is gonna be in this house.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, folks, anything else you want to plug check
<v Speaker 2>out do or something.
<v Speaker 6>No, have a good weekend. Do Halloween stuff.
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the seal.
<v Speaker 3>Your guess you could do that.
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<v Speaker 6>Do I have hyper recording, hyperc hyper recording, final recording
<v Speaker 6>bucket fist?
<v Speaker 2>Whoa dog? Boost?
<v Speaker 3>All right?
<v Speaker 2>I have time dot gov up?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too.
<v Speaker 3>I will momentary check shot Baggler for shooting not no,
<v Speaker 3>we switched over correct.
<v Speaker 2>Feel like he's it's like been two or three dump
<v Speaker 2>trucks since Shreyer was on BombCast.
<v Speaker 1>I think he's probably just been going in time. That is,
<v Speaker 1>I think he just noticed it the first time. This time,
<v Speaker 1>he's really unobservant.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's my big complain about him, is how
<v Speaker 3>I'm observed he is.
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you all ready to clap and beep?
<v Speaker 1>Yes?
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would love to. All right, let's do that
<v Speaker 2>at zero five and ten.
<v Speaker 3>Oh now, if anyone wants to get a screenshot of
<v Speaker 3>me panicking, because I said I was ready and I wasn't.
<v Speaker 3>I lost track of where Time dot gov was on
<v Speaker 3>my screen the second he says zero five and ten,
<v Speaker 3>see what my face looked like. That's me panicking.
<v Speaker 2>Please send that to me. Please send that to me.
<v Speaker 3>It might look like my normal face honestly, I don't know.
<v Speaker 2>You're always panicking. We're always very much. Yeah, yeah, such
<v Speaker 2>a worry wart right, let me just change the header.
<v Speaker 2>It kind of hurts.
<v Speaker 6>I wonder if it's still the blood beer drink hurt
<v Speaker 6>your eyes?
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, mine eyes are. That's an explainable phenomenon, the blood
<v Speaker 1>beer thing. I watched your podcast last night. It just
<v Speaker 1>seems like he had a weird tasting beer.
<v Speaker 2>No.
<v Speaker 6>I mean I've had the beer, the metallic taste, and
<v Speaker 6>you can imagine how metal taste sometimes gets into beers
<v Speaker 6>if you done a factory tour. Yeah, that's fine.
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh, okay, Layers, let's food to block. Let me YouTube.
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I gotta just let them. Let them take
<v Speaker 3>it easy. I have earned a rest.
<v Speaker 6>Close my eyes the entire time.
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good podcast, and people love that.
<v Speaker 1>I mean you who would know times. I have to
<v Speaker 1>get up for the half marathon tomorrow. I want to
<v Speaker 1>get out of here quick, Dan, I should probably not.
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, it's not about that. I got plenty
<v Speaker 1>of time.
<v Speaker 2>I just tonight right after this, Yeah all right? Uh
<v Speaker 2>started YouTube started to go.
<v Speaker 6>Crazy at this folloween party tomorrow, because sometimes you can
<v Speaker 6>go crazy.
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow will go crazy.
<v Speaker 3>I tried so hard to listen to cohost story. This
<v Speaker 3>I know, not just I'm carrying around the guilt is
<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing. That story went on, Okay, still feel guilty,
<v Speaker 3>I'm not guiltful.
<v Speaker 2>I'm not and I can't be part of this. I
<v Speaker 2>cannot be part of this.
<v Speaker 3>Neither coming up, he said, it coming up in three.
<v Speaker 2>What I don't coming up in three?
<v Speaker 6>Two,