Hour 1 – Hoping the Phone Doesn’t Ring, Mike Tannenbaum

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We made it to it Tuesday. It's hour one. Come on in, stay a while. Fully assembled here in the new year. Fritzi's here, Seaton, Marv Pauliers truly, and of course the very valuable backroom guys got a busy schedule here. Kyle Whittingham, Michigan head football coach, will join us next hour. Reggie Miller will stop by. We will rank the coaching vacancies. Mike Tannenbaum, former general manager on loan from the Mothership, will join us in about twenty minutes from now eight seven to seven to three. DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show. We say good morning, Good morning to those watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app, also available on NBC Sports Network as well. Play the day, poll question, stat of the Day. All of that forthcoming, and we'll have a few things to talk about. I think with these coaching vacancies and maybe some coaches who probably were keeping a close eye on their phone yesterday, I would imagine there's three or four coaches who are probably thinking, boy, I hope that doesn't ring. Boy I hope I don't get a text from you know who? And now, is somebody going to get fired at any point this week? Is it just Monday?

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Speaker 3: Are you? Do you have to only?

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Speaker 2: Hey, if you're going to fire somebody, it's got to be Monday as opposed to Tuesday or Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Yes, if yesterday was black, Monday is today. I think I made it Tuesday. Is there a name for today? Like you survived Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 3: All right, I think it's called Tuesday. Yes, Paul, Shuesday is pretty good shoesday.

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Speaker 5: You're in the clear Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 7: So let's say another team decided on Thursday to fire their head coach. Does that make them indecisive?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 7: I'm throwing out the Dolphins just because it seems like it's not done done yet.

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Speaker 3: I think I think he's gonna survive.

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Speaker 5: Appears that way.

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Speaker 2: I think they're promoting maybe from within for their general manager. Therefore, somebody who has worked with Mike, and I think he's probably going to keep his job. There are a few coaches where you go, how did he survive or the GM survives or the coach survives and the GM doesn't. You know, it's spring cleaning, you know, but it's the day after the regular season ends. But the coaching vacancies are certainly interesting, and I always go back to, who's my quarterback? All of these jobs are available because you probably don't have your quarterback yet when you think about it. Jets don't have their quarterback, you know. The Tennessee Titans have their quarterback, but they need a whole lot there. The Raiders don't have their quarterback. They're going to get their quarterback Arizona. They're not sure what they're doing with Kyler Murray. So it's difficult to get fired when you have a franchise quarterback because chances are that franchise quarterback is the future and allows you to dream big, you know, like Jackson Dart to me as a franchise quarterback. And they keep the GM and they get rid of the coach. Cleveland Browns don't have any quarterbacks, but they get rid of the two time coach of the year who will be in demand probably three openings, which I don't understand. He's not good enough for the Browns, but Kevin Stefanski could be good enough for the Giants or the Falcons or the Cardinals. Now he's not good enough for us. Okay, And from what I was told, really this came down to they decided that they were going to keep the quarterback Shadoor Sanders, and the GM and Kevin Stefanski. I think they did him a favor by letting him go, because I don't think Kevin Stefanski, you know, you're in that situation, You're supposed to be an offensive minded guy. You couldn't really develop those two quarterbacks. They never should have turned the reins over to rookie quarterbacks because I you know, in a competitive division, Cleveland does have talent on that roster. They don't have talent in the ownership office. But and you're drafting these quarterbacks. You know, the GM Andrew Berry, he keeps his job. Kevin Stefanski does not. And Kevin Stefanski deserves better, and he'll get something better by leaving the Cleveland Browns. But you know you're going to be on the clock for a quarterback. You're going to take a quarterback, You're going to trade up. You got two first round draft picks. You know, the Raiders can maybe solve some of their problems by getting Fernando Mendoza. But you start to think about the Raiders. Since two thousand, the Raiders have been defined by one word, instability. Fifteen head coaches if you count John Gruden twice, So in just over a quarter of a century you've had fifteen head coaches. You don't have a franchise quarterback. The best quarterback in the building is Tom Brady. You went all in on Gino Smith, then you know you're.

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Speaker 3: In a rebuild.

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Speaker 2: But you do have some pieces there, Rock Bowers, Ashton Genty, Max Crosby if he's still going to be there.

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Speaker 3: But let me run down the coaches.

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Speaker 2: Interim head coaches for the Raiders since two thousand, John Gruden, Bill Callahan, North Turner, Artchell, Lane Kiff and Tom Cable, Hugh Jackson, Dennis Allen, Tony Sperano, Jack del Rio, John Gruden, Rich Bisaccia, Josh McDaniels, Antonio Pearson, Pete Carroll. That's amazing. O stat of the day brought to you by Panini America, The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show stability. You want to have stability. It starts with ownership and then works its way down. You got to have that coach that you know is going to be their offensive coordinator. Look at the you know, the great teams, great franchises, and you see that there's a common thread. Who's your owner, who's your head coach? Gm head coach on the same page, who's your franchise quarterback. You know, you kind of bunch that together and you go, Okay, that's where you start. And the Raiders don't have stability there at all. And Pete Carroll is one and done. I didn't like the hire. I was glad that Pete got another job, but that's not for Pete Carroll. This is Pete Carroll can go in and make a difference for a team that is ready to take that next step. This team was not. And I think that's the disappointing part. When and that Raider tradition and Raider fans, it's like twenty five years. We can spend a lot of time talking about the Cowboys, which everybody does, but the Raiders, you know, they should be the class or you know, part of the class of the AFC West.

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Speaker 3: They should be.

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Speaker 2: But man, we are so far removed from Al Davis and the Silver and Black. But you see, even the Giants, the Giants, we look at the Giants organization, we go, yeah, that's one of the great organizations, not lately, not not stability. Look at the head coaches they've had. Now they do have their quarterback. But I got a quarterback that I worry about. His concussions not the best thing to worry about, just as the Dolphins with Tua. And it looks like the Dolphins will move on from Tua as well. So we'll rank these openings here. And I certainly look at what the Giants have because they have their quarterback. If I had confidence in the ownership with the Raiders, then I would say, all right, you're gonna get Mendoza, Bowers, Gente, Hopefully you can smooth things over with Crosby and maybe Tom Brady getting more and more involved that you're going to get the right coach in there, and maybe it's Brian Flores, maybe you bring in Brian Dable offensive coordinator. Man. There's a lot of conversation out there, and Brian Flores hopefully gets another chance to be a head coach, and Tom's got a relationship with him. But I know it's easy to start looking at the playoffs, certainly college football playoffs. But some of these moves that were made yesterday or weren't made yesterday. That's that's the conversation that I wanted to have today. I did watch football last night. I thought it was perfect placement finally for the FCS championship game. Montana State Illinois State.

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Speaker 3: Wonderful.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't great football, but it was wonderful that they played in Nashville. You got a big stage, the exciting fourth quarter, went into overtime, Montana State ends up winning. Paulie and I have been railing on TV and the FCS for years of you know, it's like hiding in playing sight, like why is this game on a Sunday afternoon at two o'clock during the NFL season?

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Speaker 5: Witness protection?

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Speaker 3: Yes, stand alone, Let people see this.

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Speaker 2: Granted, most of these kids aren't playing in the NFL, but it was exciting and they deserve to have the stage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pauline and.

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Speaker 7: We were talking about it before. I'll bet you ninety percent of the people who tune in last night were conditioned to watch Monday night football NFL and said, where's the football? Oh, ESPN, there's a football game. I'll quickly learn about these two teams and then you quickly get invested and it's a shootout and it's overtime, and they'll probably not watch anything like this again for a while.

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Speaker 2: No, and you probably won't even remember this next year. But in the moment, it was exciting, it was fun, and it went into overtime to decide a championship. A couple of the betting lines have changed since yesterday. I erroneously told you that the Rams were giving ten to the Panthers yesterday. Turns out they are giving ten to the Panthers. It was nine and a half yesterday, it went up to ten. The Packers are now moved the line. I didn't Apparently I moved the line. Yes, the Packers are getting one and a half against the Bears. At the Bears they were favored by one and a half yesterday. You also had the Niners. They're getting four and a half. They were getting three and a half yesterday against Philadelphia and the Texans. They were giving three and a half to the Steelers yesterday. Now they're only giving three. A little bit of a change with Oregon in Indiana. Oregon was getting four, now they're getting three and a half. Miami is still a three and a half point favorite against Old Miss. All right, see pole question today.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm kind of working out pole questions based on what you were just talking about there. If we rank the six head coaching jobs that are currently open, we could start with the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: The Cardinals have one playoff appearance playoff wins in the last ten years, The Raiders two playoff appearances, no playoff wins, the Browns two playoff appearances, they do have a playoff win, the Giants two playoff appearances the last ten years, one playoff win, Falcons two playoff appearances, three playoff wins, and the Titans four playoff appearances, three playoff wins. So that's the last ten years for these teams that have openings.

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Speaker 4: All right, Seeden, I'm just saying, I don't know what happened or how he's ended up playing this long, but give Buddha Baker some type of bonus just for sticking it out this long.

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Speaker 3: It feels like.

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Speaker 4: He's been there for eighteen straight years and none of those have been good years for that team. But he's a good player. But give that fella a like loyalty bonus.

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Speaker 2: Isn't he known for just one highlight? What did he get caught by dk PC? I think he's just like a seven time pro bowler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 8: Besides things like do you have your quarterback and salary cap and things like this and even the weather, how much do you look at the current divisions like as far as to me, like the Falcons to me would be best in Cardinals' worst, you know, opportunities, because the Falcons are in a very winnable weak NFC South if nothing else, and the Cardinals, look, look what they're the three teams the NFC West are doing with winning almost every single game this year. That doesn't look like the Cardinals can chase any of those anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: No, but they do have some pieces there. They should have a really good passing game. I mean, Marvin Harrison Junior, the third I thought was going to be plug him in for a thousand yards and you know, one hundred catches. But they do have maybe the best receiving tight end in football.

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Speaker 3: Wilson has been good.

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Speaker 2: It's just you know, I look at ownership because look, quarterbacks get blame, coaches get blamed, gms get blame. You know, the owners, they get to stand back, sit back. You're the constant. Jimmy Haslam is the constant there in Cleveland, bid Well in Arizona, the constant Ross in Miami with the Dolphins, Marra family with the you know it, Woody Johnson with the Jets. I mean that those are the constants. That's where I start. You guys, Yeah, you can build a business. This isn't that kind of I'm gonna build a business. I'll just spend as much money as I want just to have Steve Cohen with the Mets. Hey, we're gonna spend a lot of money. Okay, good luck, Yeah, Pauline.

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Speaker 7: The Arizona Cardinals, like you said, they got McBride and Harrison Kyler Murray is still there and he's old, thirty six million dollars. Next year they could probably buy him out and then they're done with him. The problem with them they have the third overall draft pick. And if you think that the first two teams, Vegas and the New York Jets are taking quarterbacks, you could be out of luck there.

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Speaker 3: Well, it depends on what happens.

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Speaker 2: Who wants to go up and get see this is every year we go man that quarterback more. Fernando Mendoza. I know they all look great. Every year we build those quarterbacks up and we go, man, that guy he can really play. Although I sounded like John Gruden, it doesn't mean that they can play. And you can go to a bad organization like the Jets and like the Raiders. A lot of talented quarterbacks coming out of college have gone to bad situations. Dante Moore appears to be the real deal, Fernando Mendoza Heisman Trophy winner. But sometimes you go to these organizations and then all of a sudden you're losing. You're not used to losing. You get bad habits. Coaches change, offensive coordinators change, offensive philosophy changes. Like if Trevor Lawrence doesn't get Liam Cohen, I wonder about his career. I think he's been that impactful. Like you know, the word bust was coming up with Trevor Lawrence. Now, like this has been an incredible turnaround. By getting the right guy for you, that's the key, and at that position, it's the most important position in all of sports. And we somehow go, hey, Trevor, get through the Urban Meyer mess. Okay, Now he's got a guy who's an offensive minded coach who did a great job in Tampa and is doing a great job in Jacksonville. But that's the difficult part sometimes is who Ben Johnson. The Bears got their guy, they got it right. The Jets, I don't know if they got it right. If I was Aaron Glenn, I'd have that phone yesterday. I'd be like, I don't know who is that? Oh okay, Like the Jets are patient because Aaron Glenn, that team look like they quit. And this is a defensive minded head coach. You didn't have one interception, like accidentally, it's remarkable, but you got the juxtaposition of Ben Johnson. He waited for the right opportunity and he got his quarterback. He got a young team, They took advantage of a division that was sort of up and down. Nobody great, but the Jets they got their guy. They don't have their quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Ma, but I'm going to disagree with you on the Jets. I don't think they quit. I just think they were sorry. I think there's a big difference.

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Speaker 3: So they weren't good enough to quit.

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Speaker 9: No, Okay, you watch that Bills game, and I watched it, unfortunately I did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the same year the Jets didn't have an interceptional season, they traded away a Superstar corner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, Todd.

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Speaker 8: If you're Aaron Glenn, do you let a family member into the phone at intertep the phone calls, you could say something, Wow, I'm gonna give you a blue one.

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Speaker 4: No, Zach Taylor sitting there and the phone keeps buzzing.

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Speaker 2: Oh crap. Yeah, but that's I'm not surprised the Bengals kept him.

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not really, it's the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Really, yes, man, that is if we're doing six coaches, I'm surprised they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Get cam Yeah he is, oh, I thought.

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Speaker 2: But you know they're probably saying, hey, Joe Burrow coming back healthy. But you know they Barvin Lewis kept his job for fifteen years. They were like, well, I don't know, somebody's gotta want to coach us. He does, all right, keep him in there, yes, Mark.

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Speaker 6: That'd be my favorite thing.

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Speaker 9: Looking at a list of longest tenure head coaches, it will be Bill Belichick than Marvin Lewis.

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Speaker 3: Like, really, he's still there.

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Speaker 2: You have all these coaching vacancies, and it feels like every year it's around five to seven vacancies. And I had a source yesterday say, hey, I understand you make these coaching moves, but who are the candidates? Like, who is Ben Johnson this year? Who's Aaron Glenn this year? Who's that coordinator?

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Speaker 3: Where you go?

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Speaker 2: That's why we're making the move. You can look at your team. You can employ your team too. Let's make a change. Okay, the Steelers, you make a change. They lose this weekend. Who you bringing in the Ravens? Do you bring it in somebody better than John Harbaugh? And I know sometimes you need change, but I don't like change for change sake. I think you got to be careful. And you know, we always feel like the next guy is going to be better, and that's not always the case. The next quarterback is going to be better, not always the case. Mike Tannen mom he's been in these battles. ESPN, NFL Front Office Insider. You can see him on Get Up SportsCenter, NFL Live. Let's look at the six openings. Let's start with the worst opening.

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Speaker 6: I would say Arizona.

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Speaker 11: Dan give them the fact that the uncertainty of Kyler Murray, the number of good young players on the contract. I think Marvin Harrison could be a superstar. Trade McBride's a very good player, but beyond that, I think there's a lot more questions than answers in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: All right, Next on the list, be well, I.

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Speaker 11: Would say Vegas, But like that cuts both ways because if you get Fernando Mendoza, in my opinion, someone like Kurt Signetti, who I think would be a fascinating higher that could be truly transformational.

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Speaker 6: So we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of way Wait, hold on, hold on, you're talking about a package deal for the Raiders with Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 6: Dan, who says no? Who says no?

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Speaker 11: When you go back over the last forty years and nobody knows this better than you do in North American sports, and you think about the transformational coaching jobs. When you're talking about Mike Kiescheski leaving West Point and creating Duke basketball. You could talk about Jim Calhoun going from Northeastern to Yukon men's basketball. You could talk about Gino Ariama and women's basketball. But when you think about where they've been for over one hundred years and what he's done in two years. And I say this a lot. The data is overwhelming that college coaches fail. But what in Kurt Signetti's background would lead you to believe that he wouldn't be successful.

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Speaker 2: I always look at style. You know that style works in college? Does it work you know with pro players? So that would be the first thing I would say.

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Speaker 11: Dan, you're a form professional baseball player. You gravitated the coaches who made you better. That would ultimately make you more money. And there's a lot of different styles that work in the NFL across the board. And if Kurt Signetti walked into that building with the credibility has and he's won at Indiana University in Pennsylvania, he's one at James Madison, he won at Indiana where no one's ever won before. If I'm a player, this man may be able to put more money in my pocket.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna give him a chance.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Next on that coaching vacancy list.

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Speaker 11: You know Cleveland. I look, look, the situation of Cleveland is they have some good young players. You know, they had a productive draft this year. Carson Schwassinger. I think Quinn Shawn Jenkins will be a good player. Harold Fannons should be a good player. But the offensive line isn't where one was. And obviously the quarterback position has massive question marks. From Deshaun Watson Shador Sanders, who I'd liked a lot. I thought he was a second round pick coming out, but there's a lot of questions about who's going to be quarterback there. So that's why to me, Vegas and Cleveland have their challenges.

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Speaker 2: Okay, why isn't hit. The elephant is in the room and it's Deshaun Watson. If he was practicing with the team, he's under contract. Is he going to get a chance to be the starting quarterback for the Browns next season?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 11: Possibly, but he's a band aid because he's finally you know, they're over the guaranteed money next year. So possibly, but we need if you and I are running the Browns, job one, two and three is to get that position solidified. Dylan Gabriel is a two probably a three Chador maybe a French starter.

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Speaker 6: What do we have there?

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Speaker 11: And does Deshaun Watson help us get the new coach established? Possibly, but at the end of day, we got to go get a new quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but man, that job.

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Speaker 2: As much as you get a great fan base and you do have some talent there, you're still walking into a situation where ownership or GM decided they were gonna go rogue with you know, their quarterbacks, and you can't have two rookie quarterbacks. I mean that, That to me is malpractice with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 11: I understand. I look, Schador may make it, you know, he certainly can't. I'm just saying, let's not put our eggs in his basket. Let's go get another one. That's why I think that's in the bottom of the six jobs. That's still to be in the bottom tier.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 11: Next on the list, I would go with the Giants. I like Jackson Dart a little concerned about his completion percentage was near the bottom this year, twenty seventh heading until last game. Obviously, he has to learn how to take better care of himself.

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Speaker 6: Now I live that.

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Speaker 11: Ironically, in New York, we brought in Joe Girardi, who at the time was the manager of the Yankees, to work with Mark Sanchez on a protection plan. Learn how to slide, learn how to shift your body weight. So I think that's a skill you can learn and one of the things I would tell all these young quarterbacks, Cam Wore, Jayden Daniels, Jackson Dart. Part of the evaluation process of you being a great player is a protection plan you need to have because your availability is part and parcel in the value you bring to this team.

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Speaker 2: You needed somebody to teach Mark Sanchez how to slide.

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Speaker 11: Rex Ryan brought in Girardi, and it actually was an incredible afternoon because it really I think helped Mark become a better He protected himself better after we met with Girardi. It's a skill, Dan, Look, you're a baseball player, you would know it better than most football coaches. But obviously the nuances of one to go out of bounds, you know, obviously there was that big hit in the New England game. Like he'll learn from that. But it is a skill to understand how you protect yourself. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, those guys knew when to throw it away, they knew when to go down like they played for a long time. And Jackson dart it's a skill that he could get better at, but that's something he has to work at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he has to understand that.

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Speaker 2: You know that his mindset, he can he can know how to slide, Mike, but he has to want to slide.

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Speaker 3: That's the biggest problem I see with Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 11: Well, the head coach has to make it part of your job description. If you want to play football here, if you want to be your starting quarterback, you will slide. If you take unnecessary and reckless it's either you're going to get bench or you're gonna get hurt. So either one of them is going to make you not on the field. So let's come up with a plan where you could be aggressive. There's times to dive, there's times to go head first, third down, end zone, fourth down, but there's also times where you got to lift to fight another down, and typically that comes with experienced maturity. I think he'll get there.

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Speaker 3: The best opening then is.

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Speaker 11: Oh, well, you know, you look at Atlanta and Tennessee. I will put Tennessee first. I think when cam Ward has attribute you can't see, when you're successful at Incarnati get word in Washington State and then at Miami. The thing that was most impressive to be was at the combine last year talking to cam Ward's teammates, and he has attribute you can't see. So I'm betting on the character cam Ward. Look, Dan Moore was horrific at left tackle this year. Kevin Zeitler's close to the end. They're gonna have to fix the offensive line, but they have the quarterback. They have a brand new stadium that's basically being you know, renovated there. I think nashvill is a great place to attract people. I certainly think that's the best job available.

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Speaker 3: Explain to me the Falcons.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, you know, Penniswood Healthy is a great player. I think he's somebody that can be a franchise quarterback. Now, look, he's had multiple ACL injuries. I would keep Kirk Cousins. They have great young talent, Vision Robinson, obviously, Drake London. Kyle Pitts has been somewhat inconsistent. To me, that's the second best job, just given you know, all that young talent.

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Speaker 6: Kenley.

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Speaker 11: I was a little surprised, you know that Raheem was let go given that any one four straight. But you know, I understand two non playoff seasons and the standards are high.

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Speaker 3: There is there a hot coaching candidate.

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Speaker 11: Besides the aforementioned mister Signetti. Look, I think there's a bunch of guys that would be really, really good. Look, Kevin Stefanski to me, has you know, a good track record and certainly deserves, you know, the opportunity to be in the mix here. There's a number of good coordinators Luyne and Rumo, Jeff Hafley, Anthony Campdinelli, amongst others. And I don't believe in the dogma of oh well we got a quarterback, we got to go get an offensive coach. Necessarily Look at Mike Grabil, look at Mike McDonald. Two of the best coaches in the league come from the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're just everybody wants to move on from their coach, like that's going to solve everything. But it doesn't, because like the Steelers with Mike Tomlin and the Ravens with John Harball, these are Hall of fame head coaches that you're moving on from. And I just I said this before, I don't believe in change, you know, just for the sake of change, Like I got to know, Okay, what am I getting? I know, maybe what I'm losing, but what am I getting? You know, to replace these guys? If you would have to.

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Speaker 6: Dan, that's very prescient.

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Speaker 11: And the two questions I would always ask anybody running a football team is who are we going to get? And how much is it going to cost? And typically when you talk about players, you're talking about cap dollars or draft choices. So, hey, you know, we take this quarterback stinks, Okay, here are the five that are out there. Who do we think is better? What's the cost? And then likewise, as it relates to you know, changing coaches, you're right, like, and again I'm a big data guy, Like the data is overwhelmingly against a college coach. That's not to say that there could be a good college coach, but that just means, like, you know, the sign we always had up in the office was in God, we trust for everyone else, we need data. So if we're going to go down that that that you know that whole Dan, we got to ask more questions, get good information, and then make the best decision. But you're right, it's a lot easier to indiscriminately let a quarterback go, a head coach go, a GM go, and then realize, oh, well wait a second, you know, like be careful what you wish for the replacement isn't a certainty.

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Speaker 3: How do you fire a coach?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I think you know, there's a great book called Radical Candor and talks about as a manager, if someone is surprised, if when they're let go, that means you've done a bad job managing them. So I think, and I think the people that I've worked with over time would say this, you have to have real conversations consistently about where we're falling short and what we need to do to fix it. So a coach shouldn't be surprised if they're fired. That means you know, me as the GM or you know, president of football Operations, the owner, whoever it may be. You know, it's really on them to allow people they've hired. So you've got to believe in the process of you know, why you brought them in originally, why you brought them in, and then if they're not living up to that standard, how they could fix it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody got fired yesterday, What what does it mean if, like, is everybody now safe as we move forward into this week?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I think last year was instructive, Dan, No, you know, last year Trent Balkey came out and was the GM of the JAB Warris leading the search. Obviously, Liam Comb made a great initial impression on you know, ownership in Jacksonville. Liam Comb pulled out of the search and then they let Trent Balke go and the rest is history. So I think we've probably seen all the changes, but you never know, and you know that's what's so great about the NFL, Like every day it could bring something new, So we'll see what happens.

00:30:22
Speaker 3: Good to talk to you as always, Mike, Thank you.

00:30:24
Speaker 6: All right, Thanks so much, for having me dain.

00:30:25
Speaker 2: Mike Tannenbaum, ESPN NFL Front Office Insider. You can see him on various ESPN programs including Get Up, Sports Center and NFL Live.

00:30:34
Speaker 3: And he's such a bright mind when it comes to this.

00:30:37
Speaker 2: And he's been in a couple of different organizations in the front office and trying to find that coach, trying to find that quarterback, dealing with your GM, dealing with ownership. You know, once again, it's rare when an owner doesn't feel like he's the smartest guy in the building. It's really rare when an owner lets the people he hires do their job. And that's where I usually look at stability with an organization. You know, you get the owner who wants to be involved. You know, Jerry Jones is too involved. You know, I love his passion. I think that he's actually a little bit underrated as an owner GM here in the last twenty five years from the standpoint of he has done some good things, but he's just too involved. He is a positive and a negative, and I don't want that from ownership. I don't need to have that guy hold a press conference. I don't need for him to lecture me on football because chances are he didn't earn his billions playing football. I mean, Jerry Jones played college football at Arkansas. That doesn't mean he knows more football than most people. He is a great businessman. He does know how to do that as well as any owner in NFL history.

00:31:52
Speaker 3: Yes, Marv, you.

00:31:53
Speaker 9: Hit it on the head. He thinks he's a football guy that became a billionaire. He's like, the rest of you owners are billionaires, and then you just started owning a football team. I played on the National Championshire team. He thinks he's a foot Maybe he might be, but he played at Arkansas, so he's like, no, no, I'm a football guy.

00:32:09
Speaker 6: The rest of y'all are just rich.

00:32:11
Speaker 2: Yeah I know, I know, but if you're around these guys, I've never met a billionaire who didn't think he was smarter than everybody in the room.

00:32:19
Speaker 3: I got a billion, what do you got? I must be smarter than you, yes, Paul.

00:32:24
Speaker 7: At least Jerry Jones, though, did play some big time football and it did help him With Jimmy Johnson. There's owners who seem like they don't know anything about sports that are making sports decisions.

00:32:33
Speaker 5: Those are the scary guys.

00:32:35
Speaker 3: We'll take a break or Play of the day is up.

00:32:37
Speaker 2: Next, we'll talk to the new Michigan head coach, Kyle Whittingham, and also Reggie Miller will stop by as well.

00:32:43
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00:32:56
Speaker 7: Oh my God, left my card.

00:33:02
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00:33:12
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00:33:13
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00:33:16
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00:33:19
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00:33:25
Speaker 2: This second one of the day Curtesy the Rockets Radio Network. DURAN finished with twenty six and ten at your Play of the day. Play of the Day brought to you by Liberty Mutual Insurance. By pay full price when you can customize and save. Switch to Liberty Mutual. They'll customize your auto and home insurance so you only pay for what you need. I'm gonna have to check my Wikipedia page. Mike Tannenbaum had me playing professional baseball. You know you go to a Reds tryout camp. So did George Clooney, by the way, but thank you, Mike. The older I get, the better I was. Apparently he brought up Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza. Now this isn't a report. He's just saying, Hey, if I'm d a Raider ownership, I'm going to make a run at that, maybe as a package deal.

00:34:16
Speaker 3: I mean, why not get.

00:34:18
Speaker 2: Tom Brady on the phone, go talk to Kurt Signetti and maybe say, hey, is this something you'd be interested in? It'd be his last chance, probably to coach in the NFL. What is he sixty four years of age? You're taking your team if they win a national championship. Seems I didn't even I didn't even put it close to being on my radar because he's got he signed that what nine year extension, and you're thinking, all right, look at what he's done one of the more incredible comebacks. Well, they didn't come back from anything. They were never anything to come back from. He built something out of nothing.

00:35:00
Speaker 3: And and you.

00:35:03
Speaker 2: Know, it's one of the great college football stories that we've had in a long long time. And it's nothing nefarious about it. There's no scandal attached to this. He just came in just like he did at James Madison, all of his stops, and he created teams that win and they're favored to win the national championship. But do you want that next challenge? See this is where I could see somebody who has been coaching college football at a high level for a long time. Now you're dealing with nil and collectives and just everything that goes into this. This isn't just hey, we recruit and we coach. Now it's we recruit, transfer portal, who we keeping, who's staying? How much money. I'll talk to Kyle Whittingham about this. You know he's been around, He's sixty six taking the Michigan job. Meanwhile, you see some of these coaches who say I'm done. Saban didn't want to put up with it anymore. Dabo Sweeney kind of kicking and screaming with this. Jay Wright at Villanova, like, these guys get to a point where they go, I.

00:36:09
Speaker 3: Don't want to deal with this.

00:36:11
Speaker 2: So almost the NFL doesn't give you as much stability, but you don't have to worry about all the ancillary stuff. But that would be a shocker if Kurt Signetti would be interested in the Raiders, not the other way around.

00:36:23
Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul, I'm not sure the Raiders could afford Kurt Signetti at this point. I don't know if they would give him a pay raise. They owe Antonio Pierce, they owe Pete Carroll. Signetti got a one million dollar bonus for winning the game last week. If he wins a national title, it's another two million dollar bonus. Also, he's also triggered a review of his contract that if he wins another game, he will have to be paid third or higher highest paid coach in the country, which will bump his salary up another two million dollars going forward. So you're looking at a guy who's gonna be making fourteen a year at Indiana probably going forward.

00:36:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see him leaving that situation. He's already got a you know, another quarterback in waiting coming in.

00:37:02
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'd love to know.

00:37:04
Speaker 4: Like, when you're going through that contract and you put all of these escalators in there, they're like, yeah.

00:37:08
Speaker 3: Go ahead, good luck. Hey, I'll be happy to pay it if you can do it. Yeah ahead.

00:37:16
Speaker 2: I tried to put in my contract if I won Sports Sports Emmy for studio host.

00:37:22
Speaker 3: They wouldn't let me do it.

00:37:23
Speaker 2: Because I wanted to do like a trigger of a one hundred thousand dollars, and they wouldn't allow me to put the language in. But you know, and I did win it one time, and uh, I got gosh, and that would have been nice. I think I was making a hundred thousand dollars at the time, so I would have I would have doubled my pay there at the mother Ship.

00:37:44
Speaker 3: All right, Nicole in Texas leads us off.

00:37:46
Speaker 12: Good morning, Nicole, Good morning Dan, five six and three quarters and about eighty five pounds less than I used to be. I am actually a member of two of your clubs right now. Was the Dead Dad's Club. My father passed away on my birthday a couple of years back. But recently I've become a member of your Shooting Club. I've had three cervical spine surgeries in the last two and a half weeks, so we've been watching your show every morning. But I also wanted to thank you. My fiance proposed to me the week before my surgery, my first surgery, and he told me later that he was listening to the show and he was taking your advice because you had mentioned about going someplace where you could go back to and visit instead of you know, the bag exclaim. And we went to this in Texas. There's a this part called Chances Wonderland that we've been going to, and I had no clue he was going to propose, and it was just was so amazing. And we were under the Texas Star Pavilion of Lights and they were playing the Peanut song and we were doing the stupid peanut dance, and when I turned around, he was down on one knee with the ring. She had gone to my mom before Thanksgiving and asked her permission, and she gave him the ring that my dad had proposed to her with sixty eight fifty eight years ago, fifty nine years ago actually, So I now have my mom's engagement rings. And it was just the most amazing little bit.

00:39:53
Speaker 5: I missed some of the.

00:39:58
Speaker 3: Nicole.

00:39:59
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I could play a role in the engagement. And I hope you feel better and I hope that we can help you with that is.

00:40:08
Speaker 3: We stopped for eight sandwiches and I wasn't even hungry.

00:40:11
Speaker 5: You can't someone after a couple of spine surgerys.

00:40:13
Speaker 4: If it was one spine surgery, maybe I know, you know, I'm gonna be hungry later, so i might as well eat the sandwich now, even though I'm not.

00:40:19
Speaker 7: Forgot down on one day it was a lefty he had knee surgery in eighty seven.

00:40:23
Speaker 3: And then they were playing the Peanuts song.

00:40:25
Speaker 5: But you know what, I showed some backbone and it's stepping in there.

00:40:28
Speaker 3: What Todd?

00:40:29
Speaker 8: Will the marriage lasts longer than the story.

00:40:33
Speaker 3: I'm saying that. Nicole Todd said that I'm long winded.

00:40:38
Speaker 5: That's a little meat.

00:40:38
Speaker 8: She had surgeries, but she didn't lose eighty five pounds.

00:40:41
Speaker 3: Nicole, congratulations, Thank you and thank you for that. She was there either.

00:40:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she's not gonna let go. She's not letting go of this show.

00:40:55
Speaker 4: Had just gotten my card detail that it's a good thing because when we pulled up.

00:41:00
Speaker 2: And I think it was around forty five forty six degrees, there was a slight breeze out of the northeast.

00:41:07
Speaker 5: I'm a traffic that day over.

00:41:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an extra whip cream.

00:41:10
Speaker 8: When the hot cocoa was really a sweet It was a cold night.

00:41:13
Speaker 3: But my shirt was itchy on that spot.

00:41:15
Speaker 4: On my back where you can't really reach it but you almost get anyway.

00:41:19
Speaker 2: But when I put on the ring, it was magical. Thank you, Nicole. Michigan head coach Kyle Winningham will join us. Reggiemailer will join us as well