Xbox becomes XBOX

<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Game Mess Mornings with Me Jeff Grub,
<v Speaker 1>your host from GiantBomb dot com. Thank you for tuning in.
<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we're gonna be talking about the Arkham
<v Speaker 1>devs showing up in the credits of a surprising game
<v Speaker 1>or maybe not that surprising, and a lot more. It's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a good one because we have Lex Luddi
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Lexi, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing too bad, Glub, how are you doing?
<v Speaker 1>Doing good? Hanging in there, got some son in my
<v Speaker 1>eyes this morning that felt pretty good. Went outside, kind
<v Speaker 1>of enjoyed it, mostly making sure the yard was getting
<v Speaker 1>taken care of and stuff like that. And then we
<v Speaker 1>recorded a Batman Quick Look this morning. That'll be going
<v Speaker 1>up soon everybody, so look out for that. Yeah, I'm
<v Speaker 1>doing I'm doing good. Ready for a week of work,
<v Speaker 1>mostly ready to like lock in a bunch of stuff
<v Speaker 1>with Summer Game Fest. Today. I got to make sure
<v Speaker 1>that the GB at night couch real kind of gets
<v Speaker 1>put into a good state by the end of today
<v Speaker 1>so I can feel good for the rest of the week.
<v Speaker 1>That's where I'm at. But yeah, you're playing anything, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of into anything right now, the.
<v Speaker 2>First time in a while I'm not like actively reviewing something. Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>this has been the first time we didn't get access
<v Speaker 2>to Batman, and I don't think Double O seven code
<v Speaker 2>has gone out yet, so I've been I've been kind
<v Speaker 2>of just like poppering around. I started replaying Borderlands, the
<v Speaker 2>pre sequel, the one where they're all Australian in my way.
<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason, I've decided this is the year I
<v Speaker 2>replay every single Borderlands game just yeah, someone has to,
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, that game is fine. It's weird because that
<v Speaker 2>game never got DLC, so most of those games, the
<v Speaker 2>grind that you usually hit mid game in them can
<v Speaker 2>now be mitigated because you can just go play the DLC.
<v Speaker 2>But that game never got expansions whatever happened with it,
<v Speaker 2>So it is like the most grindy and content and
<v Speaker 2>lacking game of the series, but also still one of
<v Speaker 2>the best playing ones because it's just Borderlands too again
<v Speaker 2>and that's the best playing one. Also, this finally arrived, so.
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you get your Steam controller.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this arrive this morning, so I haven't got a
<v Speaker 2>chance to test it out yet, but I do want.
<v Speaker 1>To comfortable to hold in the first blush.
<v Speaker 2>It is a little bit big for my hands. That
<v Speaker 2>is the one thing I have small hands, and so
<v Speaker 2>I am feeling like it could Its size maybe a
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a problem. I do really like the
<v Speaker 2>trackpad as a mouse, even as I'm just sitting here.
<v Speaker 2>The idea that I can like have my hand on
<v Speaker 2>this and just like refresh Blue Sky with the track pad,
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty neat. Yeah, but yeah, I want to test
<v Speaker 2>out the gyro on it a bit and mess around
<v Speaker 2>with some settings and set ups and see what I
<v Speaker 2>can do. And also the main reason this thing is
<v Speaker 2>going to be really handy for me is that the
<v Speaker 2>back buttons will just work consistently. And I take a
<v Speaker 2>lot of screenshots for work, and having a dedicated screenshot
<v Speaker 2>and recording bohen when you are viewing and playing a
<v Speaker 2>lot of video games is very helpful.
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<v Speaker 1>lot to get into, so let's start the Morning Mess
<v Speaker 1>with Marvel. Cosmic Invasion is adding Cyclops and the Thing.
<v Speaker 1>But Cyclops, Jane, you did it. Whoo, let's go. Scout
<v Speaker 1>is happy, We're all happy. Yeah, there you go this. Hey,
<v Speaker 1>this game was a lot of fun. Actually, god, I
<v Speaker 1>did I guess. It wasn't like sitting around thinking like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna get a ton extra content, and I was
<v Speaker 1>not thinking if it got like a first DLC drop
<v Speaker 1>that it would be Sideclops. I'm happy for you, Jan,
<v Speaker 1>this is really cool stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, I didn't realize game is a pretty Yeah. I
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize this game is a police.
<v Speaker 1>The thing is actually more of a cop than even Cyclops.
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm just saying stuff to see who I can
<v Speaker 1>make mad. Yeah, hey, Cyclops looks awesome. Actually, uh man, after.
<v Speaker 2>I just saw his laser blast. That looks real good.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a leisure that's that's the thing I learned from
<v Speaker 1>X Men Mayty seven. It's from the Punch Dimension. Uh
<v Speaker 1>fuck yeah, I I'm I'm pretty excited. I will go
<v Speaker 1>back to this the game did. It does a great
<v Speaker 1>job of making you want to play as all the characters,
<v Speaker 1>and it made me want them to drop more characters.
<v Speaker 1>So both of these are pretty good additions. Uh. We
<v Speaker 1>are in the golden age of beat them ups, and
<v Speaker 1>this is another one of those that's really really good.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into the headlines as we have
<v Speaker 1>them written down here. Sticking with superheroes, Lego Batman Legacy
<v Speaker 1>of the Dark Night reviews are in. They started popping
<v Speaker 1>off this morning. As I said, we recorded a quick look.
<v Speaker 1>Jeff was pretty early in the game, so we were
<v Speaker 1>kind of just poking around seeing seeing what he had
<v Speaker 1>unlocked and kind of what was happening early early in
<v Speaker 1>the action. It was a lot of fun. I look
<v Speaker 1>forward to everyone seeing that. But on open critit really
<v Speaker 1>well reviewed so far eighty five within eight out of
<v Speaker 1>ten from Liam Croft at Push Square, who writes a
<v Speaker 1>referential and joyful deep dive into the world of Batman.
<v Speaker 1>Latest lego effort from t T Games is elite brick gaming.
<v Speaker 1>Legacy of the Dark Knight just wants to be an
<v Speaker 1>enjoyable time and it refuses to falter from that commitment.
<v Speaker 1>This new Lego Batman will be some of the best
<v Speaker 1>fun you have all year. Xbox Achievements Richard Walker gave
<v Speaker 1>it an eighty five percent and says it's been eleven
<v Speaker 1>years since the last Batman Arkham game. In almost twelve
<v Speaker 1>years since Lego Batman three beyond Gotham and then let's
<v Speaker 1>see and then it trails off here in this thing
<v Speaker 1>I tried to capture and then well played. Adam Ryan
<v Speaker 1>gave it a nine out of ten, says legacy of
<v Speaker 1>the Dark Knight's excellent combat and stealth systems, fun, open world,
<v Speaker 1>and clear reverence for the world's greatest detective bring it
<v Speaker 1>close to plastic perfection. The sense I got from this
<v Speaker 1>from the quick look from these reviews, Lexi, The ones
<v Speaker 1>I was able to glance at pretty quickly this morning
<v Speaker 1>is that if there is a Batman thing that exists,
<v Speaker 1>there is a very strong chance that will be referenced
<v Speaker 1>in this game. And then the sort of core gameplay
<v Speaker 1>like north Star to use that term is, you know,
<v Speaker 1>obviously the Lego games up to this point and then Arkham,
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we'll have a story on just how
<v Speaker 1>much is Arkham here. But like it's open world to
<v Speaker 1>a point, you're driving around that you could drive like
<v Speaker 1>some in the car whenever you want drive around find
<v Speaker 1>missions to take on as all of these different characters,
<v Speaker 1>the missions are suited to the characters. A lot of times.
<v Speaker 1>Jim Gordon has a different kind of mission that he'll
<v Speaker 1>run into than Batman, and then all of the cut
<v Speaker 1>scenes are that great lego humor and again making constant
<v Speaker 1>references to just every kind of Batman that has ever existed,
<v Speaker 1>which is I mean, I think that's what people want
<v Speaker 1>from these games at this point.
<v Speaker 2>Is Jim Gordon's missions just paperwork.
<v Speaker 1>That'll be a bit kind of like he's got to
<v Speaker 1>like just do like he's got to go find pieces
<v Speaker 1>of evidence, and they are often just him shuffling through
<v Speaker 1>papers to like to try to figure out what a
<v Speaker 1>criminal is supposed to look like. Yeah, it's a little
<v Speaker 1>bit lower, lower stakes or you know, a little bit
<v Speaker 1>less action y and kind of what you want.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some of the Berry in your quicklock, I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>Do you know.
<v Speaker 2>Matt Berry is Bane?
<v Speaker 1>Okay, no we didn't. We did not see Bane. God,
<v Speaker 1>that's incredible.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really good casting. I'm super curious. It seems
<v Speaker 2>like I haven't seen the embargo because again I didn't
<v Speaker 2>get review copy, but I'm guessing there was a separate
<v Speaker 2>performance embargo or like performance review embargo, because the digital
<v Speaker 2>foundaries of the Worlds haven't run there first stories on this, yesh,
<v Speaker 2>And so I'm curious was it like, did like look
<v Speaker 2>good on Jeff's stream? Was he playing on PC? Was
<v Speaker 2>it run and okay and everything? Was it gameplay? We
<v Speaker 2>should probably.
<v Speaker 1>Say he was playing on his fifty nine I think
<v Speaker 1>it's a fifty eighty or whatever or above, and it
<v Speaker 1>looked great, like it looked flawless. But he was on
<v Speaker 1>a very beefy system. So but I was looking at it,
<v Speaker 1>and man, you know, the Lego games got to the
<v Speaker 1>point where they just look really incredible. This will be
<v Speaker 1>the one, yeah, that kind of has the most expansive
<v Speaker 1>sort of vistas in terms of the number of Lego
<v Speaker 1>on the screen at once. And I think they are
<v Speaker 1>doing ray tracing here. At the very least. They're doing
<v Speaker 1>their very realistic materials and lighting effects, and that's something
<v Speaker 1>we've seen in a lot of Lego games, but they
<v Speaker 1>kind of keep those Lego games pretty confined. This one
<v Speaker 1>is an open world, so I won't be surprised if
<v Speaker 1>it had if it runs into issues on switch to
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But as far as we got, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Why I'm asking with a game. They put out a
<v Speaker 2>spec sheet for PC that was peculiar, to say the least,
<v Speaker 2>basically implying that they encourage using frame gen to hit
<v Speaker 2>thirty fps on their recommended system, which would not be
<v Speaker 2>a good experience if you were playing a game that
<v Speaker 2>was only getting thirty fps through frame Gen. So people
<v Speaker 2>were pretty confused by that. So I'm curious to see
<v Speaker 2>what the what the PC performance winds up being on
<v Speaker 2>sort of like lower to mid end setups.
<v Speaker 1>Yep, we'll be keeping an eye out for that, although
<v Speaker 1>a lot of reviews not a time mentioning performance, so
<v Speaker 1>obviously there could be, like you said, a separate performance embargo,
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. It seems like that would get
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it in some of these reviews and not seeing
<v Speaker 1>a ton of that. So again, people could be playing
<v Speaker 1>on pretty beefy machines though, so we'll have to wait
<v Speaker 1>and see what people who are on the recommended settings
<v Speaker 1>or below are experience seen. But yeah, I mean I
<v Speaker 1>think that they have transformed or sort of transferred the
<v Speaker 1>energy of the Lego games into a more modern era
<v Speaker 1>where there was that time where it's like put out
<v Speaker 1>one Lego game a year of find one of our
<v Speaker 1>ips or one of these partner ips we can work with,
<v Speaker 1>just so we can have another one of those games.
<v Speaker 1>And now we've we're in a situation where they're like, no,
<v Speaker 1>put out the biggest Lego Star Wars game ever, and
<v Speaker 1>let that thing sort of stand on its own for
<v Speaker 1>a while and it's sold incredibly well, and now let's
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing with Batman. It's like, now we
<v Speaker 1>can give this one a long time to breathe and
<v Speaker 1>expect it to sell for years and years. And they've
<v Speaker 1>sort of met the moment in a way that it's
<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty impressive without sort of compromising what
<v Speaker 1>these lego games are. And then they've combined it with like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>what can we do to like sort of take the
<v Speaker 1>gameplay to the next level a little bit? Well, that's
<v Speaker 1>the next story. Arkham dev rock Steady is credited as
<v Speaker 1>co developer on new Lego Batman. This is from Jordan
<v Speaker 1>Miller at VGC. Original Arkham series developer rock Steady is
<v Speaker 1>credited as a co developer on Lego Batman Legacy of
<v Speaker 1>the Dark Knight. Batman Legacy of the Dark Knight is
<v Speaker 1>the latest lego game from TT Games and the fourth
<v Speaker 1>Lego Batman game in this iteration. Players explore in open
<v Speaker 1>world Gotham and take down enemies using a combat and
<v Speaker 1>stealth system very reminiscent of the Batman Arkham series. Now,
<v Speaker 1>following the completion of the game during the review period,
<v Speaker 1>VGC can reveal that the similarities extend to the development
<v Speaker 1>team itself, with rock Steady being listed as a co
<v Speaker 1>developer on the project. According to the credits of Lego
<v Speaker 1>Batman Legacy of the Dark Knight, around twenty four developers
<v Speaker 1>from rock Steady contributed to the game. A producer, designer,
<v Speaker 1>and several senior programmers and artists from rock Steady worked
<v Speaker 1>on the latest Lego title. So and again, looking at
<v Speaker 1>the quick look watching Jurff play, it's immediately apparent it's like, oh,
<v Speaker 1>this is in many ways the next Arkham game. You know,
<v Speaker 1>obviously in terms of tone and subject matter, it's going
<v Speaker 1>to be very different. But it's Batman and it's Batman
<v Speaker 1>Arkham combat and stealth, and that does go a long way. Really,
<v Speaker 1>What it does is make this game feel pretty fresh,
<v Speaker 1>because it's just not what you would expect from Lego.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what's your temperature on this?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm very like twenty four is obviously a small number.
<v Speaker 2>They had huge layoffs though. Is the other thing worth remembering?
<v Speaker 2>So twenty four is a much more sizable portion of
<v Speaker 2>you know, one hundred man studio than it is of
<v Speaker 2>a three hundred man studio. Also, these seem like pretty
<v Speaker 2>senior positions, so I'm not sure how much actual work
<v Speaker 2>they would have been doing day to day on it
<v Speaker 2>and how much they were there as advisory roles to
<v Speaker 2>kind of nudge TT games in the right direction. And
<v Speaker 2>there's also worth noting that like a lot of these games,
<v Speaker 2>when they have code development studios, they have like six
<v Speaker 2>of them, and sometimes you'll see it with like the
<v Speaker 2>God of War Ragnarok, where who was it Sony the
<v Speaker 2>one that Blue Point were code development on Nash and
<v Speaker 2>they were doing a lot of the technical stuff. They
<v Speaker 2>weren't necessarily doing gameplay or story or you know this,
<v Speaker 2>and thatsh but they were there to kind of help
<v Speaker 2>them push their technical boundaries and then they were the
<v Speaker 2>plan was to bring that back into their own game
<v Speaker 2>and then continue the God of War session and use
<v Speaker 2>whatever learnings they had from that for their multiplayer game
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. So like these companies do like the idea
<v Speaker 2>of having the exchange of ideas between studios and making
<v Speaker 2>it sort that you know, any work done once can
<v Speaker 2>be applied twice or can you know, cause more benefit
<v Speaker 2>further down the line with some other game project. So
<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised that if they're making one Batman game,
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to get people involved with the DC ecosystem
<v Speaker 2>of games to at least go hands on with it
<v Speaker 2>and be involved with the creation of it and kind
<v Speaker 2>of like have them learning from whatever issuations and also
<v Speaker 2>just giving them direction because like TV games haven't done that.
<v Speaker 2>The melee combat in those TV games games, it's not
<v Speaker 2>exactly like groundbreaking stuff. As someone who's played a lot
<v Speaker 2>of those lego games over the years, they're not, like
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're not action games, and so it makes
<v Speaker 2>sense that if they were trying to have a more
<v Speaker 2>melee focused game, they would get some advice from people
<v Speaker 2>at the wider company who could give them advice on it.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think you're right at the point
<v Speaker 1>out like it serves multiple purposes of like it keeps
<v Speaker 1>these people busy, It keeps them sharp because they can
<v Speaker 1>solve problems for a slightly different kind of game than
<v Speaker 1>what they've been working on, so they can apply what
<v Speaker 1>they know works best for the Arkham games over on
<v Speaker 1>this and then you're right, I think that they then
<v Speaker 1>they run with those ideas. It's like, Okay, we just
<v Speaker 1>made the more family friendly version of this. What did
<v Speaker 1>we learn and how can we apply that to? Like
<v Speaker 1>what do we want to do now that we can
<v Speaker 1>go back and have our little safety net of now
<v Speaker 1>we're making a game for adults. Well, you know, maybe
<v Speaker 1>we learned some stuff we can apply that here. Yeah, clearly,
<v Speaker 1>it's like it just makes a ton of sense. But
<v Speaker 1>often we see things that would make a ton of
<v Speaker 1>sense that these big companies don't do, and it's like,
<v Speaker 1>why not just have the people that work on Arkham
<v Speaker 1>help out with the combat so the Lego games better. So, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't always happen, it did happen here.
<v Speaker 2>It's worth noting that Arkham Night was an Unreal Engine
<v Speaker 2>three game, and I want to check Suicide Squad, but
<v Speaker 2>I think that was an Unreel Engine four game, and
<v Speaker 2>this is an Unreeal Engine five game. So I could
<v Speaker 2>definitely see like a lot of these are technical roles,
<v Speaker 2>and they're probably like, yeah, like get up to speed
<v Speaker 2>on this tech speeding because you're going to be using
<v Speaker 2>ish and let me check the suicide Squad. Then you
<v Speaker 2>work away.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, so. Yeah, I just think like this is
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing that makes a lot of sense.
<v Speaker 1>You like to see it, and then it results in
<v Speaker 1>a game that I think people are just gonna it's
<v Speaker 1>gonna be Meteor. It's going to be something that can
<v Speaker 1>withstand being the only Lego Batman we get for like
<v Speaker 1>a generation. You know, this can be like the Lego
<v Speaker 1>Batman that people play for the rest of their lives.
<v Speaker 1>They could show up for this because it is it's
<v Speaker 1>going to have that much content. Now, I do there's
<v Speaker 1>one thing about it. I do wonder, Like I was
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure it out. I was googling it while
<v Speaker 1>we were doing the quick look. Seems like there's only
<v Speaker 1>seven ish playable characters at launch. Maybe obviously they're gonna
<v Speaker 1>have a ton of costumes and like variations on those characters,
<v Speaker 1>but I do wonder it's like, you know, I'm used
<v Speaker 1>to a Lego Star Wars game where it's like you're
<v Speaker 1>unlocking thirty characters or more, and I wonder if that's gonna,
<v Speaker 1>like maybe hurt people's enjoyment as they play this as
<v Speaker 1>a completionist who try to unlock everything if they want
<v Speaker 1>more characters. Now, it does seem like they put a
<v Speaker 1>lot of attention into each of those characters and how
<v Speaker 1>those characters play, and that seems to be the trade
<v Speaker 1>off there, which I think might be pretty fair.
<v Speaker 2>And it seems like they're kind of focusing on outfits.
<v Speaker 1>As the yes, which makes it final sense.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which makes more sense in the realm of Batman,
<v Speaker 2>where like ultimately outside of the bat family and a
<v Speaker 2>few other characters like I don't want to be playing
<v Speaker 2>as like Harvey Dent pre two Faced.
<v Speaker 1>Man is the one I went to. I'm like, yeah,
<v Speaker 1>probably could be able to play as calendar Man.
<v Speaker 2>No, probably don't know. Suicide Squad was on Real Engine
<v Speaker 2>for so again, makes sense that they would want them
<v Speaker 2>up skilling on UI five for whatever their next project is.
<v Speaker 1>Yep. A lot of times it is that simple. It's
<v Speaker 1>it's time to like, you know, learn some skills and
<v Speaker 1>let's get ready for the next project. And here's an
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do that. That's what a lot of like
<v Speaker 1>remakes and remasters end up being, right, So that that
<v Speaker 1>sounds like that could be a huge reason why they
<v Speaker 1>ended up doing this, and then the it benefited the
<v Speaker 1>game at the same time, well.
<v Speaker 2>Someone in chat just said malo man, and we need
<v Speaker 2>to bat them.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll get the mods on it. How dare you
<v Speaker 1>all right? Let's uh, let's get over here to this
<v Speaker 1>next story. I guess Xbox's rebrand becomes Xbox after fan poll.
<v Speaker 1>This is from Andy Robinson at VGC. Microsoft's new gaming
<v Speaker 1>CEO has seemingly rebranded Xbox for the second time in weeks.
<v Speaker 1>Earlier this week, Asha Sharma pold fans on her Twitter
<v Speaker 1>account about whether Microsoft's gaming arms should be known as
<v Speaker 1>Xbox with a lowercase box or the all caps version Xbox.
<v Speaker 1>I look that mostly I just want to kind of
<v Speaker 1>figure out, like, what are they what are they trying
<v Speaker 1>to accomplish with this? Is it just to be like, hey,
<v Speaker 1>we're making we're we're responding to you, We're doing what
<v Speaker 1>you want. And I'm like, Okay, this is not actually
<v Speaker 1>what I want. I don't care. I'm surprised anyone cares.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, I guess this always goes back
<v Speaker 1>to me, you know, being a writer first and just
<v Speaker 1>being like, hey, don't they're gonna come out. They're going
<v Speaker 1>to email you and say, hey, can you please type
<v Speaker 1>our name like this and be like, no, we have
<v Speaker 1>our own style guide, just do it your own. And
<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, well, these are the kinds of things
<v Speaker 1>that are for press releases, which is not for actual
<v Speaker 1>human consumption. Uh so yeah, what are they trying to
<v Speaker 1>do here? LEXI?
<v Speaker 2>So before I get into all of this, one, who cares?
<v Speaker 2>Nobody cares. Secondly, I think the thing that's really interesting
<v Speaker 2>about this is that this is the kind of thing
<v Speaker 2>you do when you just want a news story that
<v Speaker 2>isn't negative out there, because it's not like they changed
<v Speaker 2>the branding on the boxes. It's not like they changed
<v Speaker 2>the branding in all their press releases that they were
<v Speaker 2>sending out around for Soizon six that's still Xbox. The
<v Speaker 2>Xbox wire currently has expolt box spelt in two different
<v Speaker 2>ways on USh. So, like, this isn't they carefully thought through,
<v Speaker 2>Like we are changing everything about the brand and we
<v Speaker 2>we've really put time in consideration. Just this is just like, hey,
<v Speaker 2>we need to do something to engage people. And that's
<v Speaker 2>what every single week under the Shama administration so far
<v Speaker 2>has been.
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was it was a lot of the
<v Speaker 1>weeks under Phil too, like but I think Phil was
<v Speaker 1>like a little bit I don't want to say more savvy,
<v Speaker 1>but he's pretty savvy at like making the news stories
<v Speaker 1>feel substantial, but really they were always just like let's
<v Speaker 1>get some good vibes out there, and this one feels
<v Speaker 1>like so transparent about like just doing that, just being
<v Speaker 1>a positive story with nothing to it that it's kind
<v Speaker 1>of obviously it makes people's eyes roll, but just feel
<v Speaker 1>cynical at a certain point.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like I genuinely like this is the jangling
<v Speaker 2>keys of news stories, of like what is the bare
<v Speaker 2>minimum we can do to engage your brain and get
<v Speaker 2>you to think of all brand without actually doing jack
<v Speaker 2>shit with all brand? And like, I know, if this
<v Speaker 2>is the best you got to get me interested in
<v Speaker 2>Xbox on a weekly basis, that's not a good sign.
<v Speaker 2>On top of the fact that, like, I don't feel
<v Speaker 2>that good about Xbox, So when you do engage me
<v Speaker 2>about Xbox, I usually wind up going, yeah, Xboxes is
<v Speaker 2>in a great spot right now, Like yeah, fortunate and
<v Speaker 2>sex was good, but I don't feel good about the
<v Speaker 2>brand of Xbox. That's a game made by people, not
<v Speaker 2>by the Xbox Corporation spelled all caps. This is I
<v Speaker 2>don't know this This thing feels so cynical to me,
<v Speaker 2>and I feel so there's a part of it where
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, this isn't news. There's no need to
<v Speaker 2>report on it. Ultimately, like the idea of treating this
<v Speaker 2>like news is at that point you're just doing pure
<v Speaker 2>That's all you're doing, because this is it's pure. This,
<v Speaker 2>This is branding that only matters in a public relations
<v Speaker 2>format of we are sending out or pure newsletters and
<v Speaker 2>this is how we refer to the company internally. This
<v Speaker 2>is not how anyone refers to Xbox outside of the company.
<v Speaker 2>They just spell an Xbox.
<v Speaker 1>Okay.
<v Speaker 2>This is not how anyone normal with an actual brainstem
<v Speaker 2>talks out at Box.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's definitely the side of this where it's like
<v Speaker 1>like this, yeah, this is not for any of us.
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't shouldn't it doesn't matter. It should not matter,
<v Speaker 1>you know. But there were people like this won the vote, right,
<v Speaker 1>this is like all caps Xbox people did have an
<v Speaker 1>opinion on this, And I mean, and that is you know,
<v Speaker 1>that is gonna be the freaks, the people that are
<v Speaker 1>super into the brand. I don't. I'm trying to like actually,
<v Speaker 1>like see if I can figure out why, like why
<v Speaker 1>all kept it because all caps Xbox is associated with,
<v Speaker 1>like Xbox the original one and Xbox three sixty and
<v Speaker 1>then they kind of changed it later.
<v Speaker 2>But also like gotta say, like second month of being
<v Speaker 2>the CEO, going out there and doing the muskie and like,
<v Speaker 2>we're putting everything to polls on x We're gonna we're
<v Speaker 2>gonna let the users vote. We're gonna let the democratize
<v Speaker 2>the user base. And I was like, oh, man, this,
<v Speaker 2>I don't fucking need this ship. Just fucking make the
<v Speaker 2>video games. Man, I don't care. You're the business person
<v Speaker 2>who's in charge of decisions. Fucking make the decisions yourself.
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not my job to tell you what a
<v Speaker 2>good idea is.
<v Speaker 1>Being Also, just like the idea of like activating the
<v Speaker 1>gamers is something Xbox has done for years, and it's
<v Speaker 1>at this point feels like a misstep, misguided because it
<v Speaker 1>all it ever led to was people feeling like Xbox
<v Speaker 1>was their friend and then them being disappointed constantly and
<v Speaker 1>then having to have these like pleading arguments, you know,
<v Speaker 1>against this wall that turned out it was like oh this,
<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought it was a corporation. It's just
<v Speaker 1>this faceless wall that I was yelling at and it's like, yeah, man,
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know what what are you talking about? Dude?
<v Speaker 1>So yeah again, yeah, yeah, you got to get back
<v Speaker 1>to him. Doc jmih says, So, Jeff, is it Giant Bomb,
<v Speaker 1>givet bomb or Giant Bomb and with inner caps, you
<v Speaker 1>know it's Giant Bomb with a space. I will give
<v Speaker 1>any brand an intercap. You can have one sort of
<v Speaker 1>letter in the middle capitalized, and I will typically respect
<v Speaker 1>that because that usually is like helps people understand what
<v Speaker 1>the word is trying to say. Uh, infamous can fuck off.
<v Speaker 1>That's no, I'm not ever right in it that way.
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to ever put a dollar sign at
<v Speaker 1>the end of fair games. Uh kiss my butt, No
<v Speaker 1>way not doing that. But uh yeah, if it helps
<v Speaker 1>to understand the word a little bit, I can help
<v Speaker 1>out there.
<v Speaker 2>What about shadow Man too?
<v Speaker 1>Keecond coming all right, Well, clearly you got to respect that.
<v Speaker 1>That's the game that deserves the most respect, of course.
<v Speaker 1>Uh all right, let's go ahead and take a break.
<v Speaker 1>When we come back. Plenty of more headlines to get into.
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<v Speaker 1>mess Mornings. Jeff grub Lexi, Lutti Lexi. Let's get back
<v Speaker 1>into it with Ghost of Yota fans. Gutted support has
<v Speaker 1>ended for free co op mode. This is from Sammy
<v Speaker 1>Barker at Push Square. Sucker Punch will not add any
<v Speaker 1>more content to its free Ghost of Yota update Legends,
<v Speaker 1>and not everyone is taking the news well. The mode,
<v Speaker 1>which we described as fantastic in our initial hands on,
<v Speaker 1>launched on March tenth. Now just two months later, the
<v Speaker 1>Seattle Studio has revealed it won't be adding any more
<v Speaker 1>content to the co op campaign, although it will remain
<v Speaker 1>online and playable in its entirety if you want to
<v Speaker 1>jump in. Speaking with the PlayStation Blog, lead designer Darren
<v Speaker 1>Bridges revealed the Raid update was our last major planned
<v Speaker 1>update for Legends. It finished the story of the Yota
<v Speaker 1>six in that mode. We'd love to see see players
<v Speaker 1>playing it, continue to play it and enjoy it. It's
<v Speaker 1>been great, as allutitude in the article's headline, not everyone
<v Speaker 1>is impressed with sucker Punch's decision. Here, one user wrote,
<v Speaker 1>this is really disappointing. We waited so long for new Legends,
<v Speaker 1>and after a short time it becomes repetitive, really poor
<v Speaker 1>move not to add more survival maps or one twenty
<v Speaker 1>gear like Level one twenty Gear. I don't know. Okay, So, man,
<v Speaker 1>there was a time where you know, a multiple would
<v Speaker 1>just get added to a game at launch, and then
<v Speaker 1>you know that's that was it. It wasn't connected to
<v Speaker 1>the internet, you wouldn't get an update. Obviously, people have
<v Speaker 1>been trained to expect more from this sort of thing,
<v Speaker 1>But there's got to be some middle ground where where
<v Speaker 1>a studio can just add a cool little multiplayer thing
<v Speaker 1>to their major single player narrative Triple A launch and
<v Speaker 1>not sort of be punished for not turning that into
<v Speaker 1>a live service, right, So what do you make of this?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think some of the problems here is this
<v Speaker 2>continued support of big Triple A games that Sony makes
<v Speaker 2>makes a lot more sense when someone at PlayStation is going, well,
<v Speaker 2>we're going to bring it to other platforms at some
<v Speaker 2>point as well, so it will just be a value
<v Speaker 2>add there and we'll convince more people to buy its,
<v Speaker 2>whereas now it's like, well, we're just supporting this thing
<v Speaker 2>for free. We're not making any money off of Legends
<v Speaker 2>because as far as I know, Legends didn't have any
<v Speaker 2>micro transactions, and I played a bit of Sushima Legends,
<v Speaker 2>but I haven't played any of Yohai stuff, and so like, yeah,
<v Speaker 2>at that point, you are just putting money into a
<v Speaker 2>project that, in Sony's eyes, they're done with. They're like, well,
<v Speaker 2>that game's out, it's going to keep recouping however much
<v Speaker 2>money every month it does. But like we want you
<v Speaker 2>working on the next thing. Why would you be working
<v Speaker 2>on the previous game. And so yeah, like sadly these
<v Speaker 2>make a lot less sense in a post PC porsching
<v Speaker 2>Sony World, which is a real bummer because that Legends
<v Speaker 2>mode is really niche and like Returnal added that awesome
<v Speaker 2>co op mode which is really really cool, and I
<v Speaker 2>highly doubt that Cero's is going to get one, And
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it's cool to see these games expand
<v Speaker 2>in this way. And what was the thing that The
<v Speaker 2>Last of Us got? It got that survival factions? No, no,
<v Speaker 2>it got the Survival roadelike mode the Lastest Part two
<v Speaker 2>on plus five that I know, like Brad love that, yes,
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like it's it's a bummer, but it just
<v Speaker 2>I don't see how it how you can justify this
<v Speaker 2>pitch internally when you're not going to be selling more
<v Speaker 2>copies through these updates, or you're at least not going
<v Speaker 2>to be making a big second marketing push where this
<v Speaker 2>new content is part of that marketing push. So yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's like and it makes sense, and
<v Speaker 1>it's it's completely fine, Like it's it's the kind of
<v Speaker 1>thing where like, yeah, I mean, if we can have
<v Speaker 1>an alternative to live service, just be in this cool
<v Speaker 1>game got a multiplayer mode and then and then everyone
<v Speaker 1>moved on with their lives and you can go play
<v Speaker 1>that when you're hankering for it and it's not going
<v Speaker 1>to be your new hobby, Like I mean, god, can
<v Speaker 1>we just make that okay as well? And it's you know,
<v Speaker 1>clearly like the sort of math that goes into justifying
<v Speaker 1>any sort of action of like taking people's time and
<v Speaker 1>having them work on something like the opportunity costs associated
<v Speaker 1>with anything like this. Obviously, he's usually so high these
<v Speaker 1>days that you need to turn it into live service
<v Speaker 1>and people are accustomed to that. But I don't know,
<v Speaker 1>I think it's better for Sucker Punch to do this
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly and then get to work on whatever is next.
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, there is those rumors going around that
<v Speaker 1>not Sucker Punch, but somewhere else inside a PlayStation they
<v Speaker 1>are working on Infamous remasters, remakes, new games or something
<v Speaker 1>like that. Jordan Midler was spilling them beans although there's
<v Speaker 1>he said he's only got one source on it, but
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It sounds plausible to me.
<v Speaker 2>I'm so curious how an Infamous we make would play
<v Speaker 2>in the modern day, because if you go back to
<v Speaker 2>those games, which I did last year, Cole fucking sucks
<v Speaker 2>Coal is a diption.
<v Speaker 1>Co Yeah, I never liked them.
<v Speaker 2>It feels like he would have been there on January sixth.
<v Speaker 2>He is the worst and his like friend's sidekick is
<v Speaker 2>even worse. And both of their characters can be summed
<v Speaker 2>up by they really want to get their DICKSWT and
<v Speaker 2>like that's it. That's their entire character arcs and it's
<v Speaker 2>the most two thousand and seven ass characterizing. And I'm like,
<v Speaker 2>I don't think like Infamous Second Son has its problems,
<v Speaker 2>especially in its casting and choice of who they cast
<v Speaker 2>as a Native American character, but like, at least that
<v Speaker 2>guy isn't that big of a dipshish.
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I yeah, I never was just
<v Speaker 1>like spitting with those Infamous games. I think because of
<v Speaker 1>the vibe, the tone of the characters in particular, I
<v Speaker 1>think Sucker Punch does not seem like it's going to
<v Speaker 1>go back to Infamous though, I get. I mean, I
<v Speaker 1>don't know, because Ghost of Sushima was a breakout hit,
<v Speaker 1>Yota seemed like it followed that same exact trajectory. Maybe
<v Speaker 1>didn't grow, but I don't think it like recessed at all.
<v Speaker 2>Uh. From everything I heard, it's like on almost a
<v Speaker 2>parallel track, if slightly a Hands of Tsushima, which, considering
<v Speaker 2>it's in a it came out much earlier in a
<v Speaker 2>console cycle. Like they they're taking that quite well. They're like, yes,
<v Speaker 2>this is performing above expectations for the number of PS
<v Speaker 2>fives out there.
<v Speaker 1>Right, So it's like, I mean, I think at the
<v Speaker 1>same time, there is some sort of I think learned
<v Speaker 1>pressure inside of PlayStation that following up two successful games
<v Speaker 1>in one style with a third one in a time
<v Speaker 1>when it takes four to six years to make a game,
<v Speaker 1>that could be a little bit treacherous because the the
<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of diminishing returns on everything stacks up
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly and people are just inherently less excited. But
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I feel like I feel like their
<v Speaker 1>next game is going to be another ghost game. But
<v Speaker 1>would you do that or would you try something else?
<v Speaker 1>If you're a sucker punch.
<v Speaker 2>I think it's easiest to get another ghost game greenlit.
<v Speaker 2>I think you literally just go, yeah, we jump forward
<v Speaker 2>another six hundred or eight hundred years, and suddenly it's
<v Speaker 2>the part of Japan's history where the West really is
<v Speaker 2>beginning to arrive and the culture is shifting, and it
<v Speaker 2>is this very start. You know, Shogun was really big,
<v Speaker 2>and I think that you could definitely pin a game
<v Speaker 2>around the idea of what if the Aniards we had
<v Speaker 2>to fuck up? And I'd be like, fuck, yeah, I'm
<v Speaker 2>gonna murder some Spaniards.
<v Speaker 1>Portuguese wait, look yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Or the one English guy who's there for no good
<v Speaker 2>reason and just like I'm a bit confused.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's just he's there to do his funny voice
<v Speaker 1>the whole time. I like that guy a lot.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jarvis is great in it, but his whole thing
<v Speaker 2>is basically looking slightly confused and being sad.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, that's the whole genre of white guy actor,
<v Speaker 1>right like that, Like that guy is gonna eat Tom
<v Speaker 1>Hardy's lunch here pretty soon, and I'm I'm all for it.
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and take Tom Hardy's money. Yeah, go watch
<v Speaker 1>Shogain everybody. Uh Okay, So yeah we know, uh, Sucker
<v Speaker 1>Punch is a one game studio. They were pretty adamant
<v Speaker 1>about that a couple of years ago. I don't think
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna change, but yeah, if I think it, they
<v Speaker 1>probably also just followed up with a ghost game. I'm
<v Speaker 1>with you. That feels like the smartest and easiest thing
<v Speaker 1>to do the Path of Least Resistance. I just I
<v Speaker 1>don't see how they could go from Ghosts back to
<v Speaker 1>Infamous unless they have some like real, amazing idea at
<v Speaker 1>the core of that.
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think the only real thing that you
<v Speaker 2>could is be like, no, this is a superhero game
<v Speaker 2>that likes Spider Man, takes advantage of the hard ware
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't sure three of now we can do it
<v Speaker 2>stremely fast, low times. So you are flying around the
<v Speaker 2>fucking city in a way that you like Infamous. Yet Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>you're doing your park or but like you were just
<v Speaker 2>blazing your way through a large city in that game.
<v Speaker 2>That's the only way that you can kind of justify
<v Speaker 2>going back to that series, I think, which I don't know,
<v Speaker 2>Like they have Spider Man, and Spider Man is yeah,
<v Speaker 2>degrees larger than Infamous, and at that point you just
<v Speaker 2>have two superhero properties and one of them is original.
<v Speaker 1>One of them just inherently lesser. Yeah.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I don't know. It's it's a it's a
<v Speaker 2>hard it's a hard pitch. If you're going to try
<v Speaker 2>to make that internally.
<v Speaker 1>I I'm with you make a new Slight Cooper game instead.
<v Speaker 1>I can't Also, i'd be surprised if they went back
<v Speaker 1>to that. But we'll see. Okay, rocket robot, Robot on
<v Speaker 1>wheels now we're talking Corzo. That's that's actually what they're
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. It's about time that all those in sixty
<v Speaker 1>four games come back. All right, Mixtape isn't going anywhere,
<v Speaker 1>won't be Della's delisted over music licenses. This is from
<v Speaker 1>Liam Croft at Push Square. Shots out to VGC and
<v Speaker 1>Push Square for providing pretty much all the stories today
<v Speaker 1>Mixtape Team Beethoven and Dinosaur and Publisher and a Permit
<v Speaker 1>Interactive have both confirmed the Excellent PS five game won't
<v Speaker 1>face any potential delisting issues over it's a licensed soundtrack
<v Speaker 1>in the future. This is because rather than only setting
<v Speaker 1>up temporary music licenses for the for the title, agreements
<v Speaker 1>are in perpetuity and have been and that those are
<v Speaker 1>put in place protecting Mixtape from having to be taken
<v Speaker 1>off sale. Creative director Johnny Galvatron who I still whose
<v Speaker 1>name I just still love saying every Time shared with
<v Speaker 1>Kataku that the studio paid extras to secure the permanent licenses,
<v Speaker 1>and and a pernit Interactive followed up on social media
<v Speaker 1>it said, we heard some people say mixtape would be
<v Speaker 1>delisted due to music licenses expiring. That was a lie, boy, man,
<v Speaker 1>more misinformation about that game. Weird people normal and not
<v Speaker 1>weird is how I would say it about this game.
<v Speaker 1>The soundtrack to mix Tape is utterly essentral to the experience,
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, of course they had to just figure that out.
<v Speaker 1>And it's possible, right, you can, like, these deals are possible.
<v Speaker 1>You just kind of have to like make it clear
<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna make it central to the game, And again,
<v Speaker 1>probably have to pay up and and a perduct can
<v Speaker 1>afford it. But yeah, good, good to hear. This is
<v Speaker 1>something that is always a bit of a relief when
<v Speaker 1>a game figures this out. It always makes me wonder.
<v Speaker 1>It's like, man, why can't every game just figure this out?
<v Speaker 1>So no game has to be delisted due to music
<v Speaker 1>or cars or whatever, Like it's going to happen to
<v Speaker 1>Forts the Horizon six one day and has happened with
<v Speaker 1>all the other Forts of Horizon games. That's always frustrating.
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever looked on Steam key sello websites for
<v Speaker 2>like how much?
<v Speaker 1>I bet they go for a lot?
<v Speaker 2>So I was looking at Forts Horizon three because that's
<v Speaker 2>the only one that was released on PC that I
<v Speaker 2>didn't buy before it was delisted. That gain's like three
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty dollars now for a key man.
<v Speaker 1>That's bonkers. People just want it in the library. I'm
<v Speaker 1>sure all that stuff is cracked and everything, but I guess,
<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe you can't play it online.
<v Speaker 2>Dirt two Dirt two is the one that is not
<v Speaker 2>so expensive. It's like seven hundred bucks. It's ridiculous, which
<v Speaker 2>I get it. Dirt two was fucking Dirt two and
<v Speaker 2>Dirt two rules. But also, that's so much fucking money.
<v Speaker 1>I need to play. I need to play the Dirt games,
<v Speaker 1>all right, hang on me close it. I want to
<v Speaker 1>see if I have in my library all the Forts
<v Speaker 1>of Horizon games. I think I have, Okay, I have
<v Speaker 1>five and six on Steam? Do I have three and four?
<v Speaker 1>I think I have them on like Xbox, but I
<v Speaker 1>would assume that they would be cross platform. I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I've to track that stuff down. But yeah, this is,
<v Speaker 1>you know, smart for them to figure this out. Over
<v Speaker 1>at Beethoven and Dinosaurs. Did you did you ever play
<v Speaker 1>through mixtape?
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait yet. I was. I was in the
<v Speaker 2>review minds when that came out, so I was just
<v Speaker 2>like blissfully unaware of all the shit going on. And
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna play this towards the end of
<v Speaker 2>the year because I bet if I'm editing game of
<v Speaker 2>the Year lists again this year, that's going to show
<v Speaker 2>up a lot. So I will want to one have
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of screenshots and to be able to head
<v Speaker 2>ish about it asially. So yeah, I want to get
<v Speaker 2>around to it, but that will probably be when there's
<v Speaker 2>the next break in things.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's pretty cheap too.
<v Speaker 2>It's like on sale for like seventeen.
<v Speaker 1>Normally.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, extremely reasonable for the price.
<v Speaker 1>Of a CD, right, yeah, it's like the price of
<v Speaker 1>a mixtape, like come on. Yeah. I'm continuing to think
<v Speaker 1>about it, even though I have not had a chance
<v Speaker 1>to go back and finish it. I've been reviewing stuff
<v Speaker 1>kind of NonStop, and but I do intend to. But
<v Speaker 1>I keep thinking about it. And it's just like you
<v Speaker 1>can like immediately tell what makes these people go insane,
<v Speaker 1>and it's, you know, a game that's like, hey, we
<v Speaker 1>are using gameplay to make you feel something like a
<v Speaker 1>woman does. Like they cannot they cannot handle this idea
<v Speaker 1>that someone else has emotions and they are trying to
<v Speaker 1>present them to you, and especially if the main character
<v Speaker 1>experiencing those emotions is a woman. Though, they are just
<v Speaker 1>pissing their pants.
<v Speaker 2>And empathy is gay.
<v Speaker 1>Come on, empathy is so gay. Yeah. Yeah, these fucking people,
<v Speaker 1>it's just a little bit of feminine energy scares them
<v Speaker 1>to their core and it's fucking embarrassing. I will shame
<v Speaker 1>to be a man.
<v Speaker 2>I've been very hot and cold on the new season
<v Speaker 2>of the Boys, but the podcast with the Deep and yeah,
<v Speaker 2>Black Law is really fucking good of like, yeah, they
<v Speaker 2>would have a fucking podcast these two.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely all right, let's uh, let's keep going here. Port
<v Speaker 1>Specialists of Virtuos says not Virtuos, so everybody relax. Virtuos
<v Speaker 1>says it wants to bring GTA five and Red Dead
<v Speaker 1>Redemption two to the Switch. This is from Chris Scullion
<v Speaker 1>at VGC, the studio technical director at remaster and port
<v Speaker 1>Specialists of Virtuos says he'd like to bring two of
<v Speaker 1>Rockstar's biggest games to Nintendo Switch. The developer, which is
<v Speaker 1>headquartered in Singapore but has other studios located around the world,
<v Speaker 1>has built a name for itself in recent years for
<v Speaker 1>its high quality remasters and ports, and a new interview
<v Speaker 1>with Pocket Tactics, Virtuos's Andy Fong was asked which games
<v Speaker 1>he'd like to see Virtuos working on in the future.
<v Speaker 1>The team is eager to adapt Grand Theft Auto five
<v Speaker 1>and Red Didverdem Store two for the Nintendo Switch. Fong replied,
<v Speaker 1>we're personally big fans and believe these games can shine
<v Speaker 1>again on the Switch, delighting even more players. Grand Theft
<v Speaker 1>Auto five sold a million copies. Read Rodem s TO
<v Speaker 1>two sold a million copies. Ports of either Game two,
<v Speaker 1>Switch or Switch to could bump those figures even higher
<v Speaker 1>players to decide to buy them for handheld play. Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>Rockstar and Take two kind of had their own sort
<v Speaker 1>of business of remastering Grand Theft Auto, like the trilogy
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff, and that didn't go fantastic. They
<v Speaker 1>have not even followed that up with what feels obvious,
<v Speaker 1>a GTA four remaster for everything that hasn't even happened yet.
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that is more of we just kind
<v Speaker 1>of still want people focusing on GTA Online and GTA
<v Speaker 1>five and the upcoming games. Or is it them sort
<v Speaker 1>of being like, we tried to figure out a way
<v Speaker 1>for us to handle remasters. We really wanted it to
<v Speaker 1>do that way. It kind of burned us and became
<v Speaker 1>this hassle, and now we're less interested in that concept
<v Speaker 1>as a whole.
<v Speaker 2>Over At Rockstar, Well, I think they're not going to
<v Speaker 2>do four because four has a multiplayer mode that they
<v Speaker 2>currently don't make money off of it, and they don't
<v Speaker 2>want one to have people asking for it to be
<v Speaker 2>in the remaster, and two for them to have to
<v Speaker 2>say no, it's not in it and then deal with
<v Speaker 2>whatever publicity backlash is there because of that. I think
<v Speaker 2>that this virtual statement is really interesting because Virtuos is
<v Speaker 2>a company that's really interesting to me because so much
<v Speaker 2>of their work is one and done. They just get
<v Speaker 2>game out and then they're kind of done with it,
<v Speaker 2>and they don't get much support after that. Like I'm
<v Speaker 2>not sure if you if you kept up with any
<v Speaker 2>of this, but like Oblivion on PC is still in
<v Speaker 2>a terrible stage. That Oblivion remaster, it is still real rough,
<v Speaker 2>and they haven't patched it since twenty twenty five, and
<v Speaker 2>it's like, man, did they just you know, was that
<v Speaker 2>just not part of their contract of you know, we
<v Speaker 2>don't offer support after this point once the game is out,
<v Speaker 2>like we're done with it. And so in the case
<v Speaker 2>of this, these two games, I wonder GJ five, I
<v Speaker 2>bet you could get running on the switch to red
<v Speaker 2>Dead Redemption two. I bet that would be CPU limited
<v Speaker 2>on the switch to I bet that would be where
<v Speaker 2>that game struggles a bunch on the switch to with
<v Speaker 2>the switch's relatively weak CPU, Like they could use DLSS
<v Speaker 2>to paper over a lot of the graphical, you know, problems,
<v Speaker 2>but I think that the CPU would really struggle with
<v Speaker 2>in that particular case.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, Red deter Redemption two is a twenty
<v Speaker 1>eighteen game. It is something that did work on an
<v Speaker 1>Xbox VCR, Xbox one VCR and a PS four base
<v Speaker 1>like right, like yeah, and so it could function, It
<v Speaker 1>could work on there. It would maybe be thirty frames
<v Speaker 1>per second, but I don't know, like you know, sometimes
<v Speaker 1>switch to surprising, but yeah, I think they would probably
<v Speaker 1>just target thirty frames per second and call it a day,
<v Speaker 1>and it would certainly be able to work that way.
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I do think Virtuos is a team that
<v Speaker 1>kind of just it feels very high, it feels very
<v Speaker 1>work for hire. Is exactly what they feel very work
<v Speaker 1>for hire, where it's like they are just going to
<v Speaker 1>do the contract and move on. Whereas you know, they're
<v Speaker 1>like Bluepoint, Like I don't I didn't love all the
<v Speaker 1>Blue Points remasters and remakes, but Bluepoint was like you
<v Speaker 1>could tell they sort of had a vision of like
<v Speaker 1>what they wanted to do with it, and that's not necessary.
<v Speaker 1>Virtuos is bringing and I think that's what a lot
<v Speaker 1>of these companies want, and what they really want is
<v Speaker 1>what Virtuos really provides, which is a lower price. They
<v Speaker 1>are affordable because they are not based in California for
<v Speaker 1>the most part. Uh, and that makes a difference. So
<v Speaker 1>I mean.
<v Speaker 2>Is in pretty expensive places. They have a Dublin office
<v Speaker 2>and let me tell you renting cheap in Dublin, yes,
<v Speaker 2>right right, yeah, Dublin and is like about as expensive
<v Speaker 2>as London.
<v Speaker 1>So like yeah, but like like beneficial taxes and stuff
<v Speaker 1>like that, they always find ways to make that stuff work.
<v Speaker 2>There's reasons for them to be there, yes, yeah, yeah.
<v Speaker 2>They also do a lot of codevs. So like yeah, honestly,
<v Speaker 2>this kind of just seems like the interview that you
<v Speaker 2>do if you want to be out there saying like yeah,
<v Speaker 2>we're good for work, like we're looking for work. If
<v Speaker 2>you're if you're looking for someone to do some work,
<v Speaker 2>we're looking for work. And the biggest name games that
<v Speaker 2>you can use to get headlines with that self is
<v Speaker 2>GJ five and Red Dead. So like this is just
<v Speaker 2>it's almost them selling themselves of like yeah we could
<v Speaker 2>do GA five, we could gain Yes, we could do
<v Speaker 2>your game. Sure, we could do any game.
<v Speaker 1>If we could do this game, we could do your game. Yes, exactly.
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what this feels like. All right Kotor remakes
<v Speaker 1>canceled Aspire era cinematic leaks. This is an early in
<v Speaker 1>production cinematic from the now canceled first iteration of the
<v Speaker 1>Star Wars and Knights of the Old Republic remake, and
<v Speaker 1>it has appeared online. While the full story of the
<v Speaker 1>troubled development of the Knights of the Old Republic remake
<v Speaker 1>has yet to surface, multiple reports suggest that the project,
<v Speaker 1>build as a collaboration between developer Aspire and production partners
<v Speaker 1>LUCASLM Games and Sony Interactive Entertainment, was entirely rebooted after
<v Speaker 1>development issues. Now a clip reportedly from the portfolio of
<v Speaker 1>an artist who worked on the game gives us the
<v Speaker 1>clearest insight into the original vision of the project. This
<v Speaker 1>new clip is aim is claimed to come from the
<v Speaker 1>Aspire era of the game's development, before it was eventually
<v Speaker 1>moved to Saber Interactive. According to MP First, the video
<v Speaker 1>show off in early draft of one of the games
<v Speaker 1>opening cinematics. The cinematic is still in it's very or
<v Speaker 1>it's like previous. It's a previous cinematic, so just like
<v Speaker 1>they are visualizing it so they can hand that off
<v Speaker 1>to the people who will do the final animation work
<v Speaker 1>and make it look like a real video game.
<v Speaker 2>This is really them blocking out camera positions. Yes, that
<v Speaker 2>is about as much as you can take.
<v Speaker 1>All emotions, yes exactly. Yeah, they're just adding the sort
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that they need to like you can
<v Speaker 1>fill in the like in between the gaps. But here
<v Speaker 1>are the things we absolutely need in this scene. It
<v Speaker 1>does like feature I think voice acting from.
<v Speaker 2>It features one person doing all of the voices, so
<v Speaker 2>it is extremely temp.
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but like also that person is doing a voice
<v Speaker 1>for the main character. I don't think we could sort
<v Speaker 1>of glean that that means that the main character would
<v Speaker 1>have been voiced in the final game. I just don't
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't take that away from that. I don't know, but yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is such a weird one because
<v Speaker 1>the story is still that Kotor is still being remade.
<v Speaker 1>Now it's over at God, I love the studio. I
<v Speaker 1>can't remember their name. Helped me out here, Saber, thank you.
<v Speaker 1>Uh it's over at Saber now. Man. I would still
<v Speaker 1>contend that this version the game that got announced at
<v Speaker 1>that PlayStation showcase all those years ago, that version did
<v Speaker 1>get canceled, like Sony washed their hands of it. They
<v Speaker 1>they scrubbed that the trailer from from their from their
<v Speaker 1>YouTube page. Uh, they are not involved in this anymore.
<v Speaker 1>A Star Wars the Nights of the Old Republic remake
<v Speaker 1>is now in the works over at Saber. Aspire has
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with the the version of the idea
<v Speaker 1>that we saw regionally. It's just not going to happen.
<v Speaker 1>A different thing is going to happen now. It's it's
<v Speaker 1>still Nights of the Old Republic. It's still a remake.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that project lives on, but it but you know,
<v Speaker 1>by all real measures, that is a different thing at
<v Speaker 1>this point. Uh, this just feels like they were trying
<v Speaker 1>to Aspire was trying to figure out how to make
<v Speaker 1>a big one of these games, and we've they've never
<v Speaker 1>on that before. And the story was that when they
<v Speaker 1>showed some early stuff to Sony, no one was happy
<v Speaker 1>and the deal sort of fell apart in that moment.
<v Speaker 1>And you know, looking at these previous cinematics, I'm like,
<v Speaker 1>was this part of it? I have no idea. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know what a previous cinematics should look like to
<v Speaker 1>impress someone at a company like that. I think I
<v Speaker 1>do remember Lexi hearing that it's like maybe Sony was
<v Speaker 1>disappointed things weren't further along, So maybe like seeing this
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to something that had a little bit more
<v Speaker 1>bizized to it and instilled some or took away some confidence.
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what's your read on all of it.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like it's one asset out of a
<v Speaker 2>pool of however many they produce for this game, Like
<v Speaker 2>they were working on it for a fair while, so
<v Speaker 2>this isn't the only thing they had to show, and
<v Speaker 2>this just happens to be the one that gets out
<v Speaker 2>and now people are trying to lead in a lot
<v Speaker 2>into ash, So there's only so much you can kind
<v Speaker 2>of actually take away from it of like, yeah, they
<v Speaker 2>were working on it, and like this early stuff always
<v Speaker 2>looks this rough, like this is this is the sausage
<v Speaker 2>being made. This is the bit you usually don't see
<v Speaker 2>for a reason, and it's because people freak out when
<v Speaker 2>they see this stuff. So yeah, I can totally understand why.
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a hard story to like read it anything
<v Speaker 2>into because like you can't be like, well, this looks
<v Speaker 2>bad because like, yeah, fucking of course it does. What mean, Yeah,
<v Speaker 2>it's like not meant to look good. It's meant to
<v Speaker 2>like look shitty, so that everyone knows exactly what is
<v Speaker 2>a moving object and what isn't. That's like, it's not
<v Speaker 2>meant to hold blend together and look nice and seamless.
<v Speaker 2>It is meant to look deliberately kind of shitty and jarring.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like there's only so much you can read
<v Speaker 2>into a single asset that has leaked out of this thing.
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think we'll know the actual story with
<v Speaker 2>the Aspire stuff for another few years until someone gets
<v Speaker 2>a bit more loose lipped about it and people there's
<v Speaker 2>less highlight on the gate. I don't think we hear
<v Speaker 2>anything about what actually happened with the Aspire version until
<v Speaker 2>well after the Saber version comes.
<v Speaker 1>Out, Yeah, exactly, once uh you know, feelings cooled around it.
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a shame because obviously they would want
<v Speaker 1>to have this at Star Wars reaches its scene if
<v Speaker 1>with the Mandalorian and Grogu launching, and yeah, yes, I mean,
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's gonna nothing. It's never going to be
<v Speaker 1>more popular than.
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be fiva is. It's about to bake
<v Speaker 2>and it's gonna be ow all the hell is gonna
<v Speaker 2>bakes loose?
<v Speaker 1>Is that little? Is that the fucker gonna die in
<v Speaker 1>that movie?
<v Speaker 2>I hope?
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, I kind of want to go see it.
<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited for the sequel. My Dinner with Andre
<v Speaker 2>and Glogu.
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely yeah, yeah, my, that's I mean, it's such a conversationalist.
<v Speaker 1>Trench at insight is my favorite quote from that movie. Absolutely.
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's keep going here, g t A six
<v Speaker 1>pre order speculation keeps spinning up. Is it gonna happen
<v Speaker 1>this week? Lexiuh? Take two does have their earnings report?
<v Speaker 1>I think that's May twenty first. I'm going for memory there.
<v Speaker 1>We should. We just saw Star Fox get announced in
<v Speaker 1>the lead up to Nintendo's earnings report, and what is
<v Speaker 1>Grand Theft Auto six? If not rock Stars Starfox I've broken, LEXI, Yeah,
<v Speaker 1>that fucked me up.
<v Speaker 2>Never do that again. Fuck uh yeah, it could happen.
<v Speaker 1>Sure.
<v Speaker 2>That's That's about as much inside as I got into
<v Speaker 2>this one. There's not really too much we can predict
<v Speaker 2>out of lock style, so right.
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they don't have to announce it yet, even
<v Speaker 1>like this thing's coming out in November and it's really
<v Speaker 1>coming out this time. Even now, it's not like, well
<v Speaker 1>they got they better get moving, Like they can really
<v Speaker 1>start talking about that thing two weeks ahead of time
<v Speaker 1>and it will sell just as many copies as it's
<v Speaker 1>going to sell if they start selling it now. But
<v Speaker 1>I do think that there is a little bit of
<v Speaker 1>motivation at Take two to sort of like say, rock Star,
<v Speaker 1>if you're ready, could you just tell our investors that
<v Speaker 1>things are going to be I mean, Take Two's stock
<v Speaker 1>price really is up and down based on if investors
<v Speaker 1>really think that Rockstar is going to deliver Grand Theft
<v Speaker 1>Auto six this year, and it was, it was down
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit a little bit ago, and then on
<v Speaker 1>these most recent rumors of there was going to be
<v Speaker 1>a trailer and pre order stuff happening this week, that
<v Speaker 1>like boosted it right back up. And I think that
<v Speaker 1>Take two is well aware of that. But they always
<v Speaker 1>say Strauss always says, LEXI, we let Rockstar decide when
<v Speaker 1>they're going to talk about these things. And I don't know.
<v Speaker 1>I don't my buddy Strauss.
<v Speaker 2>You know you're you're saying that. You know they're trying
<v Speaker 2>to get the Locksar announcement whatever be Locksar announcement out
<v Speaker 2>before their earnings call but surely that was what they
<v Speaker 2>were doing when they sent ken Levine out to do
<v Speaker 2>his IGN interview and talk about Judas.
<v Speaker 1>That's what moves to the needle.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was what was going to move the needle
<v Speaker 2>on investors. Was ken Levine talking about virtual Legos again?
<v Speaker 1>Yep? Exactly? I mean yeah, And then that's actually why
<v Speaker 1>it went up the stock price for sure. I guess
<v Speaker 1>I won't be surprised if it happens this week. But
<v Speaker 1>nothing is screaming it has to happen this week, So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. Who knows it's rock star. They work
<v Speaker 1>on their own timeline. They could do it whenever they want.
<v Speaker 1>They could fucking talk about it the day before. That
<v Speaker 1>could be the next time we hear about it, and
<v Speaker 1>it would still sell like insane the day at launches.
<v Speaker 1>All right, last story here. The UK charts from last
<v Speaker 1>week are and it's pretty interesting. Let's see here. Let
<v Speaker 1>me make this a little bit larger so I can
<v Speaker 1>actually see it with my old man eyes. Tomodachi Life
<v Speaker 1>Living the Dream was back up to number one after
<v Speaker 1>dropping to number two last week, so that game continues
<v Speaker 1>to sort of just grow as word of mouth spreads
<v Speaker 1>and by word of mouth. I mean, it's very popular
<v Speaker 1>on social media still. But number two. Surprising to me
<v Speaker 1>is that Indiana Jones in the Great Circle primarily for
<v Speaker 1>the switch To. Ninety nine percent of the sales were
<v Speaker 1>on switch To was number two on the chart. That's
<v Speaker 1>one I earmarked a couple of weeks ago. Lexi has like,
<v Speaker 1>let's keep an eye on how this does, because that's
<v Speaker 1>a that's a big port and those don't always necessarily
<v Speaker 1>just do very well on the switch To. They kind
<v Speaker 1>of are. There's some give and take there, but this
<v Speaker 1>one had a little bit of an advantage because the
<v Speaker 1>entire game is on the card. It seems like it's
<v Speaker 1>all worked out and the game is selling on switch To,
<v Speaker 1>and people are rewarding it, you know, quote unquote by
<v Speaker 1>purchasing it for being the exact kind of experience they want,
<v Speaker 1>which again is the game on the card. Yeah. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Are you surprised by that?
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit, am I know that the game
<v Speaker 2>like runs pretty well from what I gather, like it
<v Speaker 2>doesn't sit in what it is. Also nice to see
<v Speaker 2>director of eight twenty at three that game like Charging Above,
<v Speaker 2>you know, ten is pretty good, and I like that
<v Speaker 2>game a fair amount. Yeah, Like I think that these
<v Speaker 2>ports can be really hit or miss. It can just
<v Speaker 2>depend what kind of mood the audience is in, and
<v Speaker 2>even if there has been a big Nintendo game recently,
<v Speaker 2>because I think when you talk about people who play
<v Speaker 2>Nintendo games or people who play games on the switch,
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about a lot of people who probably don't
<v Speaker 2>have the disposable income to buy multiple eighty dollar title
<v Speaker 2>seventy dollars eighty dollars titles a month or you know,
<v Speaker 2>every you know, two weeks or something, And so they
<v Speaker 2>will pick and choose the new games that they go after,
<v Speaker 2>and they'll go hunting for deals on the rest of
<v Speaker 2>them when they can, And they buy Nintendo games when
<v Speaker 2>they know, no matter what, because they're never fucking going
<v Speaker 2>down in price. But third party games they're like, well
<v Speaker 2>these drop in price all the time. And they also
<v Speaker 2>sail all the time on the e shop. Sometimes they
<v Speaker 2>go on sale more on the E Shop than they
<v Speaker 2>do anywhere else.
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so yeah, it could's the one discovery mechanism
<v Speaker 1>they have is to go on sale.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So it can be so hito miss for these ports.
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that game's neat. I'm glad it's doing pretty well.
<v Speaker 1>I really liked Indiana Jones and The Great Circle. I
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I love it enough to I mean,
<v Speaker 1>I don't love it enough to get it at seventy
<v Speaker 1>dollars again on switch to. But as you pointed out,
<v Speaker 1>when that thing's on sale, I might pick it up
<v Speaker 1>at hell, I might even pick it up physical. Who knows.
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have a physical card in my
<v Speaker 1>switch to right now. What I did with the switch
<v Speaker 1>one was the breath of the wild basically lived in
<v Speaker 1>my switch to to the point where it stopped working. Lexi,
<v Speaker 1>I was just like trying to get that work on
<v Speaker 1>the other day. I'm like, I didn't mistreat this thing.
<v Speaker 1>I just left it in the switch to or switch
<v Speaker 1>one for eight fucking years and that made it stop working.
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't seem like that should be the case, But
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe, yeah, I'm gonna do that with Indiana
<v Speaker 1>Jones now if I can get it for thirty five dollars,
<v Speaker 1>that's my price. Meet me where I'm at, and you're
<v Speaker 1>right directed eighty twenty at number three. That's good to see.
<v Speaker 1>Anything else worth calling out, No, not really.
<v Speaker 2>Quen seems to have gone a small boost from its
<v Speaker 2>Leon must Die stuff. It went from seven to four.
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, good point. Yeah yeah, all right, let's see here.
<v Speaker 1>That does it for the headlines. Let's start wrapping up
<v Speaker 1>the show no pull question from Friday, we did the
<v Speaker 1>Bomb twelve instead, but you can see the most recent
<v Speaker 1>Bomb twelve by going to giant bomb dot com. Scroll down.
<v Speaker 1>You could see what we did last week as a collective,
<v Speaker 1>and we all said, this is the game I'm playing.
<v Speaker 1>There's some fun ones on there, some unexpected ones. Go
<v Speaker 1>check that out. But then over to the left, there's
<v Speaker 1>a vote here button. You click that, it takes you
<v Speaker 1>to the Google form where you can recommend your game
<v Speaker 1>for the Bomb twelve for this week. And I will
<v Speaker 1>coliate all that on Friday and looking forward to another
<v Speaker 1>week and getting to the Bomb twelve once again. But
<v Speaker 1>we do have a new poll question that we'll get
<v Speaker 1>to here in a second. Before we do that, Lexi,
<v Speaker 1>why don't you tell people where they can find you,
<v Speaker 1>what you have going on and all of that good stuff.
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can find me on Blue Sky at Lexlodi
<v Speaker 2>dot xyz. You can also check out my reviews on
<v Speaker 2>gamer guides. At the moment, I have a piece going
<v Speaker 2>up in a really cool journal at some point over
<v Speaker 2>the next little while that I just finished a draft
<v Speaker 2>draw and I'm going to send off soon, so keep
<v Speaker 2>an eye out for that. I'll be posting about it.
<v Speaker 2>You can support the website that I'm on startmanu dot
<v Speaker 2>co dot uk. It's for people trying to break into
<v Speaker 2>games media. At Patreon dot com slash start menu. We
<v Speaker 2>have a weekly news round up piece that is done
<v Speaker 2>by a different person every single month. We're doing some
<v Speaker 2>paid reviews at the moment, and we're trying to get
<v Speaker 2>codes for bigger games and give people the opportunity of
<v Speaker 2>reviewing bigger games for the first time and going through
<v Speaker 2>the embargo process and all of this. So yeah, we're
<v Speaker 2>doing good stuff over there, and we're continuing to persevere
<v Speaker 2>doing the independent vibe. Oh yeah, it's it's gonna any
<v Speaker 2>day now, gonna turn around. Things are gonna pick up.
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, go go support us if you can. If
<v Speaker 2>you can't, just check out the website. And if not,
<v Speaker 2>go watch that YouTube video that I put up of
<v Speaker 2>me playing through the mind's Eye content because that was
<v Speaker 2>mind blowing.
<v Speaker 1>That's it was actually way funnier than I thought it
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be like, not intentionally, but I thought it
<v Speaker 1>would be like kind of depressing, and it certainly is that,
<v Speaker 1>but it's also there's more going on in that. So yeah,
<v Speaker 1>everyone go watch a Lexi do that, and yeah, go
<v Speaker 1>support her and everything she's doing. Please, all right, boy,
<v Speaker 1>let's see here I tell you what. I gave Fortsa
<v Speaker 1>five stars, and then I was I was playing another game,
<v Speaker 1>finished it again. Then I like quite a bit. I'll
<v Speaker 1>talk about that in a review here pretty soon. But
<v Speaker 1>immediately as soon as I that was, it was like free.
<v Speaker 1>I went back to Fortsa and played some more, and
<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm realizing more why And it really is
<v Speaker 1>the fact that it's both Arcadie and sim at the
<v Speaker 1>same time. It's it's Wave Race, like this is the
<v Speaker 1>successor to Wave Race. It's like, oh yeah, there is
<v Speaker 1>this amazing physics system underneath this what it looks like
<v Speaker 1>and ostensibly is very arcadi gameplay. And I just can't
<v Speaker 1>help but love that, the fact that this is like
<v Speaker 1>the follow up to one of the best N sixty
<v Speaker 1>four games in a lot of ways.
<v Speaker 2>I do really like that game. I gave it eighty
<v Speaker 2>out of one hundred, but I feel like I'm not
<v Speaker 2>the only one who's feeling this now. I feel like
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make great use of Japan as a setting. More.
<v Speaker 1>It's sports the first. It is Forts first, and.
<v Speaker 2>There should be way more street races. There should be
<v Speaker 2>more than one Japanese radio station that plays all of
<v Speaker 2>the Japanese music, Like there should be dedicated Japanese radio
<v Speaker 2>stations for different genres. Like it definitely feels like Forts
<v Speaker 2>came into town and everyone in Tokyo was kicked out.
<v Speaker 1>And it's weird. Yeah, that that is definitely like a
<v Speaker 1>hallmark of that series where it's like we're going to
<v Speaker 1>these places and it will have like you're gonna see
<v Speaker 1>Mount Fuji and I like that stuff works for me.
<v Speaker 1>But it is Forts the horizon first, and it's like,
<v Speaker 1>what what would they lose? What would it hurt to
<v Speaker 1>sort of be like like it like to adopt the
<v Speaker 1>place a little bit more? Obviously, I think it would
<v Speaker 1>just like cause more time they'd have to like spend
<v Speaker 1>more time. I think we'll also it'd be like if
<v Speaker 1>we do something that is very Japanese and that sort
<v Speaker 1>of become what's that hurting? Like, oh now we got
<v Speaker 1>to do that in the future games. All right, so
<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna go to Brazil for the next game
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Don't write that as a story. I'm just
<v Speaker 1>coming to an example. You could still have whatever you
<v Speaker 1>did in the Japanese game still show up in that game.
<v Speaker 1>And just because they're global celebrations. Yeah, so that that
<v Speaker 1>would it would be better if they could get to that.
<v Speaker 1>But man, I can't help but love that game.
<v Speaker 2>It was funny that one of the first cars they
<v Speaker 2>give you access to is a Ford f one fifty.
<v Speaker 2>A right, imagine fucking imagine locking up to Japan with
<v Speaker 2>a Ford f one fifty and trying to drive around
<v Speaker 2>the streets of Tokyo.
<v Speaker 1>I hate. But one of the best cars in that
<v Speaker 1>game is the Toyota Tacoma, which just kind of like
<v Speaker 1>like read stuff four f one fifty like dog water.
<v Speaker 1>It's really great. Man. I like that truck a lot
<v Speaker 1>in that game. To comus are great. Okay, let's see here.
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have a new game US Mornings on Wednesday.
<v Speaker 1>Tune in for that. We're gonna have Bombcats tomorrow. Obviously
<v Speaker 1>we have the new poll question, which I've written down
<v Speaker 1>over here. Did I say that yet? Are you getting
<v Speaker 1>lego Batman Legacy of the Dark Night. Yes, I'm bricked
<v Speaker 1>up for it and no. All right, well we'll get
<v Speaker 1>the results to talk about that on Wednesday. As I said,
<v Speaker 1>there will be a quick look for Batman here pretty soon.
<v Speaker 1>Tune in for that, everybody, I think. With all that
<v Speaker 1>out of the way, LETSI thank you so much for
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with me today and talking about video games.
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it.
<v Speaker 2>Anytime always a pleasure.
<v Speaker 1>Thank you all for watching and listening. You're the best
<v Speaker 1>audience in gaming. Until next time, have a good one,
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself, and goodbye.