Exclusive: Kat Shares the Text That Ended Her Relationship with Dale

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. We are back with Kat and we are here for part two. So without further ado, we're just going to get right into it because we have so much more to discuss.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what the crazy thing is. I remember seeing like all the coverage of this at the time, and it seemed like you guys were like such a happy couple.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, that's like the internet for you.

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Speaker 2: So was that him? That's like, I want to present this to the public even though you were not having a good time.

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Speaker 3: We had our most biggest fight there.

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Speaker 2: What was the fight?

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Speaker 3: What was the fight? Oh? I mean yeah, I don't like it's just like it was just a lot.

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Speaker 4: Like I eventually like was like okay, like this is like not okay, Like I feel like you have been gone. Like I was sitting at the chair like while before the fight was going to start, and he left for an hour I guess to go get a drink for like he was gone for an hour, and then I was like okay, Like at this like I just felt so alone and like he wasn't even like trying to like take the time to make me feel comfortable and environment. It's clearly not mine, and like that's how I move. But then also when you start to see somebody from that perspective, like everything is going to be heightened. So I was like a little aware of that, like I could be like just seeing him from that perspective because I already felt that way, but it was so not received very well, and so I was just not being spoken to very appropriately. Like one of the things that was said was if you want someone that's going to be obsessed with you, that's not going to be me.

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Speaker 3: And he's like saying.

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Speaker 4: That to me, like I'm right here, he's right here, and I'm actually you know what I'm talking to take Like he's going to hate that I'm telling so many details, but like I actually don't care, Like yeah, he was just going on and on and on, like he did this when we were doing the reunion too, Like I'm sure I contributed to it, like I think I triggered him in certain ways, but like it was never like, oh, she's feeling insecure, like let me help her. Like if he was like feeling that way, like I would see my partner from that perspective at least that's what I would want, And I learned to say less because then they can't hurt you back, like he's against you, so like he would just keep going if I wouldn't say anything, and eventually you would stop, and like I just felt like so that was I just did not say any words throughout the entire fight. Like I was just like he needs to apologize, like whatever, have your hard moment. And then I was like, actually I do want someone that's obsessed with me. I'm like that's okay, like you could like I do, like I want to be obsessed with my partner and vice versa, Like why is it a bad thing?

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Speaker 3: Right? I All I wanted to know was where you were? So anyways we leave the fight? Are we leave?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The actual boxing fight, and then.

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Speaker 4: It was just, of course so hard to get an uber even though he told me we were going to have a car service the whole time, of course yes, and didn't couldn't get out of there was walking in hills, So it was just like.

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Speaker 3: So breaked up during that fight.

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Speaker 4: No, So then then I eventually snapped because he like said something really disrespectful to me and I was like I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going home, Like I'm like I'm literally done, like I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: What do you say.

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Speaker 4: We got I mean, okay, so we got out of the taxi, like we finally got to you we're supposed to be and.

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Speaker 3: I said something about something, maybe the uber or something, and it's okay if you don't remember, No I remember. I'm just like I'm gonna like, these are just so many details or whatever. Uh I said somebody about the uber.

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Speaker 4: I said something, and he said something under his breath, and I goes, you just tell me to shut the fuck up, and he goes, no, I told you to grow the fuck up, like you're acting like a child. And then that's when I was done. And that's when I finally like lost it. So of course I'm like we're like, I'm like trying to get home. He like leaves whatever we're in. We have this party bus driver I guess that we had on the way there, and we're in this party bus. Like I was eventually like crying and like upset and probably not communicating in my best on the party bus. Crying on the party bus, Lily Bow going off. Literally it was cinema. I'm crying and he's like, you know, like you I had unhealthy relationships in the past, like maybe you're the problem, like blah blah blah. I'm like I shared that with you because like that is something that I've taken to grow from, not because like you can use like my like low moments against me and like, yeah, it's been hours and I'm finally snapping, like I'm tired of it, Like I do deserve respect. But of course when you do that and you yell and you lose your composure, they can be like look at you.

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Speaker 3: You're like not.

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Speaker 4: Composed, and it's like, oh, but you got me here, you know, And I have been and so I definitely didn't handle myself very well in that moment.

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Speaker 3: I was just like so upset.

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Speaker 4: And then we went back home and we were supposed to spend that next weekend together, but it was then I was like everything is work related and I'm done doing work related stuff. Like when we were at the Padres game, he literally did that to set up his and his stuff. I had just got off work and didn't even talk to me the whole time. I was asking questions about the baseball that I already knew answers to because I just want him to like have a conversation with me.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, so you felt like at this point, like obviously after Vegas and then you're mentioning the Padres game, like you probably were already checked out.

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Speaker 3: If not, like that was the I was getting scared. I was getting scared. I was like, if this is I do not did you not want to leave him?

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Speaker 4: Like, well, I just I give people moments of like, let's talk about it, right, so like let's okay, now I know if this is possibly work related, then I won't be participating. So that next weekend was that and it was my guess partners that he does work with, and I'm like, I don't want my person to bring me to this space that he did in Vegas. And we had a really like we took a couple of days and then we really talked about it, and I felt like there was conflict resolution in those moments where we can like you use those understand each other. But at the end of the day, I'm like, this is just still not feeling good and I've always not felt like super good. Like he saw how it wasn't Paradi. It's like my intuition was kind of like there. And then it was his birthday in New York and I went and saw him and we had a good time. I got to see Charity, and I tried to, you know, okay, let's talk about San Diego, like now it's it's time, like I would like to have an idea of what the next year is going to look like, might least since in January. And I just felt again like we didn't get anywhere, and it was a bunch of I actually couldn't tell you because I don't even know what happened in the conversation. And granted I go to therapy every other week, if not weekly, So like I talk about, I understand unhealthy communication almost too well now, so I can clock it so quickly. And so when people talk in circles or there is no start and finish, is usually from a place of either manipulation or they just don't even know, and then you're left confused and they don't have to answer. Right, So that's what it started to feel like. And I'm like, all right, I needed some.

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Speaker 3: Space to see if this makes sense for me, because I don't want to do anything that doesn't have like an intentional end, right, And I didn't feel like we've gone anywhere at this point where we're growing and at this point, like we don't even have an inside joke, Like I like, we need to have inside jokes like this. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it's like I just didn't feel like there was enough momentum and that there was I was getting that reciprocal Okay, So I think he thought that too. I think he started to feel that too. I'm sure he did too. Like I think that I also made like he was experiencing very similar feelings.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: No, I just I'm like, I'm itching to get to the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, break, I'm like, I think leap matters so much.

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Speaker 2: I feel like at this point, like so many breakups should have happened. So what could have actually happened to like really push this over the edge.

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Speaker 1: And like what was the Yeah, well, how did that conversation go?

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Speaker 4: We spent a few weeks apart, and I want to break. I just I said, let me take some space and I need to see if this is what I really want. You take your space and you're going to be in San Diego that last week of October and we'll see each other then. I guess maybe I don't know if I actually didn't even know if we agreed on that yet, but like I knew he was coming for something else, and like we can see we're at So we were checking in like weeklysh like I just didn't want him to feel alone.

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Speaker 3: He was so understanding. He was like, take, I get it, Like we're still together, Like we're still dating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not working up with anyone or anything, like we're still like together in a way like publicly obviously too, and but we're still I didn't feel completely like gone like I felt, but like again, I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't even feel like I was dating him to begin with.

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Speaker 4: So like what I wanted to feel is if I felt apart from him during that time, and I felt the same.

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Speaker 3: So for me, that was.

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Speaker 1: Like like a break versus like okay, we are a hundred, like I don't want to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's wait. It gets better. So then he comes.

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Speaker 4: Then he comes to San Diego, Like I try to talk to him. I think that like Monday or something. We talked for four hours about nothing and didn't get anywhere.

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Speaker 3: And then he's like, well, I'm coming, like let's see each other whatever. So he's in San Diego.

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Speaker 4: We spend the whole weekend together he's like, I love you, I want to be with you, I want to make this work like blah blah blah. I'm like, okay, let's see. So then we start talking daily and nothing really changes, and I think that goes on for about two weeks, and.

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Speaker 3: But I wasn't like itching to get back.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't really like care at this point, like I'm done done, Like at this point, if you're not going to make me like feel loved, I don't feel like that's not how I feel good in relationships. So then a weekend went I were we literally like barely talked, and I felt like I couldn't move on with my life with someone else or experience like new experiences because I was tied to this like relationship that was like in limbo.

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Speaker 3: I called him my half boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, at this point, are you dating?

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Speaker 3: Like we're like, I mean, did you never set boundaries discussion?

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Speaker 4: We never sat boundaries as far as like cooking up with other people, but like we were I mean talking every single day, but like we were like really like I just assumed like obviously we're if we did experience or explore someone else like that would be communicated and you know, discussed in a way, but like we did go from talking every single day so like facetiming and doing all this stuff but just about general stuff like nothing crazy, like still not anything different than before, to all of a sudden I didn't hear from him like at all that weekend and so then that Sunday, I was like, right, I'm done, Like I don't I don't care to be this doing anymore, Like I I need to move on with my life.

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Speaker 3: Called him. We had to talk.

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Speaker 1: We're like and you told him that you were like done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like this is clearly not working.

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Speaker 4: Like we want different things in a relationship, Like you want to still be living in like New York.

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Speaker 3: I want this in a relationship. I want to be close to my partner.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know if I can adjust to lifestyle that you have, and like that is so okay, Like we've tried to like see if that's a life that we can do together, and I think we just both want different things and need different things in a relationship and like you go do that, like and I will go do this, and like let's move on. It helps I guess that we weren't like super like I didn't feel super connected to him to begin with. So he's like, yeah, I agree, like everything's good.

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Speaker 3: I'm like pushback at all.

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Speaker 4: Never he's never had pushback, he's never been like even when I brought up before.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so minimal reaction from him, and then but we were.

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Speaker 3: Like on good terms. We're like bye bye.

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Speaker 4: He's like, I'll be in Florida for the holidays, like I'd love to see your family, like weird shit like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, yeah, so where's where's the me? I want the meat?

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So the second we get off the phone, I get a hate girly text, like like literally.

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Speaker 3: The moment I press that button and literally got chilled.

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Speaker 4: I get a hayearly text from one of my friends who got a hagarly text from someone else, and I have it.

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Speaker 3: It's in my DMS.

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Speaker 1: This is giving. I'm coming to you, read woman.

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Speaker 3: Sure we're gonna read it. Let me sure I get my phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm coming to you too, as woman to want.

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Speaker 3: So this was this wasn't even from the girl yet, Okay, here it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm like getting this is so crazy.

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Speaker 3: This girl, I guess knew of the girl, right, so it's her friend. Yeah in a way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she goes, as long as it's because I messaged her. She was like, Hey, I'm this girl message with my friends and was like, I need you to know that, like Dale, uh, I don't know if here him and cow together, but he stopt with another girl last night, and so I need I figured this would get to you sooner, so I go, let's know the details.

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Speaker 1: I'm sick.

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Speaker 3: But I call him back.

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Speaker 4: Immediately, like I hadn't even messaged her yet, and I'm like.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what did you sleep over with someone last night? Like did you hook up with someone last night?

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Speaker 4: And he's like no, like someone was trying, but like I didn't hook up with her, and like I slept in my own bed.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like I've heard these conversations so many.

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Speaker 4: Tis I heard it on TV. Actually, wait, like you saw it on TV. So I said, okay, and then I messaged a girl. She goes, as long as I stay completely honymous, this will bite me, n ask, but let me read this girl. Number one girls girl and number two I just really love you from afar. So I was like, need to share the girls. Okay, She was telling me how she's like knows the girl. The girl's best friends of my best friends. So I don't know who exactly she told aside from her, and don't know what's coming back to me. But it happened last night in Florida. The girl's name is blank, she's blank. He slept at her place. She had a pick of him in her bed. I personally saw them with the own eyes and can confirm it was indeed him. So I call him back and I go, listen, I will not care if you hooked up with somebody, but I will care if you lie to me. And this is now what's been shared, and there's a photo, so what is it? And he said we didn't hook up, but like I did, like sleep with her in the bed or something like that, and or yeah it was something about like I go no, He's like okay, yes, like we slept together and saying bed or something like that, or we kissed or something. I go, wait, but then, why didn't you tell me that you guys hooked up? And he's like, well, when you said hooked up, I thought you meant sex, So a lie and a lie, and so he's like I was like you're an adult, like you have a brain, and like you do know when I say hook up, you met, I meant everything, like and I didn't just mean sex.

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Speaker 3: So like you're so he lied to me originally and he's basically like trying to cover that up.

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Speaker 4: And then I'm like what and then uh, He's like back whatever. We go back and forth on the phone. This is like now about like an hour into it, and I keep getting more information like I saw that and everything, and then he's like, uh okay. I was like I need to know every single detail because at the end of the day, regardless of what happened, it.

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Speaker 3: Should have come from you. It should have not been someone else.

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Speaker 4: I understand we're not dating, but like this is hurtful because we did never set these boundaries and I need to understand like what actually is about to come out. So this is your opportunity now to tell me everything, because this is embarrassing for me in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Not only that, but like you need to be like safe and no if he's sleeping with other people, like to protect yourself.

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Speaker 4: Correct because like I was just with him right so and he's.

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Speaker 3: Like, well, we're not even like together or whatever. And like try to like make it the same.

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, I mean sure, but like we are kind of but regardless, like that's still not okay, So like I don't I should not be getting hate girly text. So then I reach out to the girl personally, and because as we were talking before that, it came out that basically like they you know, he told me how I was like, how did you get to the bedroom? I was like while we were talking and like, you know, uh, she followed me in my room and then like she left and like we never slept together, and then we did everything beside sex and all this stuff, like all these things like he's it just kept growing, right because that's what happens.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, I've seen this movie before.

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Speaker 4: You think I haven't dated a guy that at first said now and then all of a sudden find everything else out as you keep pulling back layers, like it just felt so familiar, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like he started.

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Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I did, I gotta go, like I need to talk to the girl or whatever, and like I think he knew I was calling her. So I called the girl and she's so sweet and she's like I'm so sorry. Like I thought you guys weren't together. Told my guys you broke up like in early October and like all this stuff, and I'm like, that's weird.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just with me two weeks ago, like we talk every day.

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Speaker 1: But I point in October, did you guys ever have a conversation about like being on a break or anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's when we but we also had, like he said, Halloween weekend, like we like broke up basically, and I'm like, okay, that's when we spent.

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Speaker 1: A few times together, had the conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've spent time together, so it doesn't even matter, honestly, Like I again, I did not really care at this point. I was already checked out, Like you could hook up. I don't consider it cheating like whatever. It was just like we're clearly in a public relationship. You're acting so careless with my name. I won't even hold a man's hand if he looks at me because I we're still in a public relationship. And also I don't know where we stand fully, like we have not had that full I'm done conversation, So let's just have respect for each other. And it comes out of course that they did actually fully hook up and she was actually the one that kicked him out of the room. And it's like all these like crazy details that completely conflict everything that he said. And I at that point was like, okay, no, done, Like you actually will never be able to speak to me again, because now at this point, every single thing that you have said to me has been a lie. All my intuition, everything that I felt about the relationship felt so like validating of like I knew it, and I think this was like whatever I believe in spiritually, like God like showing me like this is why you guys are in together.

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Speaker 3: Because it happened so right after he got off the pot.

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Speaker 2: Which means well, also like the fact that it happened so quickly after is like it was happening for a while, or at least the thought of it was happening for him.

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Speaker 4: I mean he I think he's was probably not honest with me about other things in the relationship. I mean, I saw so many signs of it, so just that what hurt me so much was the level that he went to be dishonest, And I felt so like, how can someone be so capable of that? And then I eventually did answer one of his phone calls, and I told him that, like, I know, he did everything besides what he said he did.

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Speaker 3: And he said, I told you we did. I go, oh, no, sir, doesn't work.

00:17:37
Speaker 2: I go, just give you the definition of hooking up.

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Speaker 4: And now he's saying that, yeah, so you said I eventually told you that last conversation, like I'm going to forget our conversation. And I'm like, I literally like I know this freaking movie, like you're not and so you're not gonna gaslight me? And I was like, yeah, you don't get this be on the phone anymore. Starts calling me. I just sent him links to better help therapy.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I would not answer, and I just kept setting him lists. So I'm like, so I feel bad for the girl. She's freaking out. She feels so bad. Whatever are we so sweet? And it's when you.

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Speaker 4: And then he starts calling me. I won't answer his phone. He goes, I need to see what was sent to you. Still won't answer. He goes, I'm being serious. So I sent him this beautiful gift of a dumpster.

00:18:22
Speaker 3: Fire and I said, the only person you should be calling this morning is your therapist? That was our last I'm just confused because my head, I'm like he.

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Speaker 4: Cared so much, and so I'm only reading it that way because I don't want it to come as if like I'm just I'm not going to just get my subjective of any feeling. He's like he turned this immediately into he was more helping about that. Yeah, And to me it sounds like, I mean, from what we talked about, going back to the Happy Couple and the show airing, it's like, what does the audience think? Yeah, and so I people, I don't The reason I want to go like so detailed into that is that there should be nothing that gets left unsaid in the sense of like this is actually the interaction. You can take your opinion for what is and I can say, yes, it comes as if like you just want to know the information and it doesn't seem like you're actually concerned about the situation and for what it is like.

00:19:13
Speaker 3: And he's more like of that, And.

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Speaker 4: I just don't want there to be anything that gets like misunderstood about how that is. But it is it felt like again in validating all the things I thought, And so at this point I'm just like so grossed out, Like I'm just like you're so vague.

00:19:29
Speaker 2: Like I can't I couldn't even have be just thinking about like what is Kat about to do publicly? And like how do I get my PR team?

00:19:35
Speaker 3: Like yeah, just like.

00:19:38
Speaker 1: I got to I need everything that I can all I can make share so I can be ahead of this. Like that to me is like you know again, respect is like I think the bottom line here with like what Cat is trying to get across of like Okay, I don't care if this happened, but don't lie to me, So like that's a respect thing. And like in that moment, none, I mean.

00:19:57
Speaker 3: It's always about what you want.

00:20:00
Speaker 1: Relationship, it's non existent, like that doesn't exist.

00:20:03
Speaker 4: Dale lives in with Dale and that's it. Like it's like it felt like again I was never there. So then I get annoyed and I start being pretty on social media because I cannot see people be fake, Like I was like, you're so fake and post some annoying shit. So I posted something and I and then he uh, I posted a comment on it, but he went to press first and told them how I we broke up because it was a mutual agreement.

00:20:25
Speaker 3: And that's rich coming from you.

00:20:27
Speaker 2: Comment.

00:20:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he went to press first to clear his lim and that's all you said.

00:20:31
Speaker 2: It could not be me. I blow that shit up immediately.

00:20:35
Speaker 3: Wait, guys, this is the end. And then I say, oh, yes, yes, but listen, this is where I'm gonna end with because this is what's so crazy. And if there's one thing about me is that if you try to silence me, I'm gonna scream louder.

00:20:50
Speaker 4: I actually wasn't going to make anything public about our breakup. He decided to do that when they reached which.

00:20:55
Speaker 1: Is which is a great thing coming, that's growth coming from me.

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Speaker 3: I don't care. I was just like, I just want to move on with my life. No, I know, but I think that's I'm not what you want to do is.

00:21:03
Speaker 4: You're not gonna lie about anything about me involved. So when he went to press and said that we broke up because we're better off as friends, which would acquire us to be friends first.

00:21:12
Speaker 3: U inside joke.

00:21:13
Speaker 4: Maybe he literally they reached out to me, they said, this is what was happened, give me a comment.

00:21:17
Speaker 3: I go, oh, that's actually the story. Did you tell the full story?

00:21:21
Speaker 4: I did to an extent. Obviously, Like I was just like, this is actually the case. And then I received the day before Thanksgiving a cease and desist, a three page, multiple paragraph harassment cease and desists.

00:21:34
Speaker 1: Talk about a harvest.

00:21:35
Speaker 3: It was insane. It was the most insane thing I've ever read in my life.

00:21:41
Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, it was all it's like, you you don't agree with what my version, what my experience is, so you're trying to make me not say it and like sent threatening messages about how you're gonna sue me for millions of dollars if I do.

00:21:56
Speaker 4: When guess what defamation only works if I was lying. Also, I've said nothing. Yeah, he didn't want me to be talking about our guests, our relationship. We went on TV together, Like you sign up for a public relationship, I'm allowed to speak my experience in the relationship. Just because you don't agree does not mean that you could just send me legal threats. And the fact that he did is exactly why I'm sitting here today, because I will not be okay with somebody trying to quiet me through their own falsified experience because I actually have proof and it's not about that doesn't need to be messy, but what I You're not gonna like try to make me smaller.

00:22:31
Speaker 3: And that's how it ended. We have not spoken.

00:22:35
Speaker 4: I was like sitting with it for so long until this point because it was during the holiday season, first of all, and I was like, there's no way, like, there's absolutely no way that I just got this in the mail and it was so mean, like it was such a not nice message, and I was like, so, I was like.

00:22:49
Speaker 3: What is this? So yeah, and I you can send me, send me another one, assume me. What will I care? Like this? I'm allowed to court, So yeah, that's where we're at, and he can take that season, assist and shove it right right. I hold any bad blood. I think he really did try his best.

00:23:09
Speaker 2: You have been handling this well too, Cat, and you spoke very highly of him for what it's worth.

00:23:13
Speaker 4: I don't want this to come as if like I'm just shitting on his life. I think he's doing the best with what he has. Unfortunately, what he has is absolutely not what I need, and I should not be teaching somebody at thirty seven how to use I feel statements.

00:23:24
Speaker 1: Hello, what do we say best? This is not We're not building any men around here.

00:23:30
Speaker 3: We're not, so we're not. I hope he can be. He will be a good partner for somebody who needs something completely different than when I do.

00:23:37
Speaker 2: Seeah have partners, Kat, give us a little update before we go in your life.

00:23:42
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I have been seeing someone and it's new and it's really cute and like really scary because I actually like it. He actually likes me too, which is crazy. Usually my type is men that don't like me.

00:23:55
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what this is because I'm like, yeah, no, it happened.

00:24:02
Speaker 4: I'm literally like I was so excited just like not have to worry about like anything. I was excited about any job, and then he came into my life and it's just has happened so like authentically, like very emotionally available, like perfect age.

00:24:14
Speaker 1: And he's also a normal he's like not in this space, so he's a doctor. Am I allowed to say that he's not in the space like he's.

00:24:24
Speaker 4: I want to respect his privacy, but like, at the same time, like we share so much in our own like worlds where I can like I've never been able to date someone that like actually understands my world and I get theirs and we get that we've grown together from that, but I feel like how I've been treated is like just like I feel like I'm going to be like healed through him in a way, like he's like teaching me like how to love myself if it keeps going the way that it is. And but it's still early and I'm just like excited, but also because it feels so good, it's like scary and I yeah, I don't know.

00:24:57
Speaker 3: We'll see. I just it's something that we're still exploring.

00:25:01
Speaker 4: But overall, it's been really nice and I'm just happy to be done with this chapter. Like we're gonna like Dale is dead it, reality TV is dead it, Like we're just gonna.

00:25:10
Speaker 3: Never say to reality TV, reality TV dating girl, Okay, okay, dating I'm yeah, I'll go back on TV.

00:25:16
Speaker 4: I unfortunately am too too entertaining, but I will not be dating again on TV because it's just not my It's never it's never been worked out, and I don't really think if I keep trying, it's going to But overall, I just want to like move on and live life the way we all deserve.

00:25:32
Speaker 2: Well, Kat, first of all, I just want to say I'm so happy for you that you found someone that's making you feel that way. I'm so glad that you have like done the work on yourself because I think it truly really does show.

00:25:45
Speaker 3: And I give you guys all the tips and everything so much. Oh my god, it's so fun.

00:25:50
Speaker 2: I'm glad you got to say your piece here and I hope you can feel good about this conversation and leving people know because I think you deserve to thank you at your side and all the happiness in THEA.

00:26:00
Speaker 3: It was very detailed, but we have to when you get so there's nothing like you we do.

00:26:05
Speaker 1: I lovely do have to get detailed.

00:26:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you guys giving me this space and like validating like my experience all good to hear. And we're all just like Girlie is just doing our freaking best, like we're trying, trying.

00:26:17
Speaker 1: And I love this for you guys, well for Kat and Rachel's.

00:26:20
Speaker 2: That's going to teach me. I'm the next one that's gonna emotionally.

00:26:24
Speaker 3: It's so fun.

00:26:25
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm still a basquet case. Don't worry, like I still cry, like.

00:26:29
Speaker 1: But we all we all are like honestly, that's the that's the beauty of life. It's like we're always evolving and it's just like the first step is like obviously accountability and being aware with where we are, and like you go, you grow from that, like you don't stay in the same spot, not staying stagnant, and like I think obviously we all have witnessed like Cat's journey the past like year and a half two years, which is, in my opinion, I think, like a huge testament and yeah, it's fun and crazy, but.

00:26:54
Speaker 3: There's a lot of beauty and there is Yeah, you just have to.

00:26:57
Speaker 1: Lean and we're excited for your next journey.

00:27:00
Speaker 3: You really are, I'm say for your guys next jury.

00:27:05
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here, thank you for being so open and honest.

00:27:08
Speaker 3: We love you so much, you.

00:27:09
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00:27:22
Speaker 3: Bye, guys,