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Hey, guys, this is podcast on the podcast. How you doing good
to see it? Hey, oh my god, counting down the minutes.
Two more after this? I miss you? Ah, all right, what
do you want to talk about today? We have actually a huge list of
things. Much should I go through the whole list? Go through your stuff?
I have a few things too, say my things. Okay, Well,
I want to talk about there's some new attendances online games and score games
that I'm very excited. I don't know what they are, so I'm excited
to hear them good. There's also this is a very quick one. There's
a free switch online trial seven days right now. So if you want to
talk about that or we just get it out, you just get up with
it. If you want to try on line or you're getting a switch right
now. I've never had a line full fifty dollars tear or the baby baby
bass Baby bass baby Bass. I don't like that. That's like it is
the baby base. So your girlfriend last night, you make it the baby
base. No, it sounds like you're a baby. It sounds like you're
making a baby. It's it's last It's only the little guy, It's not
the whole seventies the junior mode. It's just Nintendo done that before the free
trial. I don't know. I think they do it around the I feel
I've heard of this before. It's a holiday, They've done it all the
time. It's a holiday. I don't remember. I also want to talk
about war Zone Baby. Yeah, dude, man, I said to you
before this, I'm very excited to talk about this with you, but nobody
else is going to k here. You seem to disagree. I just think
that, I mean, this is a Nintendo podcast, but I know it's
non intend Okay. I just think that it's such a big call. Do
is so big that you know you can't have you can't be a gamer and
not have come in contact with no I agree with that, but I feel
like us sitting here gushing about our excitement to play war Zone together is going
to get lost on most of the people. But that I don't care about
that later. I don't care about them until three weeks from now, when
I really really need not drop their support. Anything else I'll can I do
mind. The rest is your stuff, all right. So I found a
few things that maybe I'm an idiot for missing a couple of these, but
apparently that's the reason we were just firing off. That's probably the harshest reason
for me not realizing these. You saying that it could be something else.
What else could it be that I just missed it? No, I meant
like you said, I might be an idiot for missing and I said that's
the reason, Like, oh, you're an idiot as well. I was
saying I didn't get the jokes. You know why, because you know what
I think I know why you got. Really, I was very confused of
why you were so offended. I was like, a little stupid joke.
I wasn't offended. From the life twenty twenty four, Tokyo has been canceled.
Did a serious threats to Nintendo. Yeah, let's bring the vibe down.
I just I don't know what that's about. I don't either, honestly
from the Nintendo community. Uh oh, that's just what this says. Never
mind, Metro Prime Ford development is rumored to have been completed, but something
about the cutscenes is holding it back. I'm going to read about that and
finally, no more Zelda ever. Ouma has said after Tears of the Kingdom
there is no way to follow it up so he's done. Wow, shame.
It was a good game, it was a good franchise. I've heard
about it. Yeah, I could have won Game of the Year, didn't.
We're one Action Adventure, which is the runner up prize a pussy baby
or your baby based baby baby based baby. Now I have a T shirt?
What based? Oh I'm imagining you giving the brief to a graphic designer.
I picture this baby base. Have fun. It's a first base,
second base, third base, baby base. It's off to a good start.
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My best friend has a class about making espresso at home. Oh really,
your best friend? I don't remember making that class. Who we talked about
it last idiot? Yeah, that loser moron. So go watch that.
Bye bye. Well you want to talk about first? I mean I want
to talk about intents which online. The three new games? Yay, what
are they? One of them is Harvest Moon. Remember? Oh yeah,
Harvest Moon's out. Yay? Also two up, dude, Horse Moon love
it. That's back when it was good. Did that come out in America?
No, I'm thinking of I'm thinking of Animal Crossing that had a very
similar games. This is probably the only good Harvest Moon that's released in the
last twenty years. Whoa, and you know it's funny, not Sue May.
Yeah. The company that made yeah, that makes Story of Seasons.
Now. Oh they make story Seasons now. I thought they made It's very
confusing. Explain explain that the Harvest moods as well. Oh well, now
I'm worried that I'm wrong. But Harvest Moon at some point got bought out
by another company and essentially a no team mobile game type studio started making Harvest
Moon games. That's why they're all bad. All the switch ones are awful,
they're ugly, they're not fun. They're all derivative of each other.
And then the guy started making Story of Seasons games instead the original Harvest Yeah.
I think not May is still making Harvest I think they're the bad one.
Okay, so they just replaced the people working on the game. Then
the guy that made Harvest Moon, the man, the person, not the
company. He does story a season right now, No, I understand,
I get you. Not sume not yeah not. Sueme tweeted like, oh
my god, look we're on the Dunsters line and it's great, and it's
like, yeah, you're the only good, fucking thing you've made in fucking
forever. Yeah, I thought it was. I thought it was a whole
different team at this point, where a whole different team. What do you
mean? You know what it is? Sorry, I'm getting confused. It
is a whole different It is very the same name. It is very conf
I thought the name changed. I thought a different company altogether was making Harvest
Moon. Now not the same company, right, It is the same company
that got rid of everybody. Yeah, and the everybody is now making story
seasons correct, correct, thank you anyway, that game that's one of the
three games. Oh my god, that's so many games. And then Jeff
forst gem and I remember that game that is finally out. I'm glad that's
finally out. That's one of the best sixty four games. Really, yeah,
you like it. I also liked it. I'd like to give it
a try again. It's I don't know what it's rated in America. Honestly,
I said that because of nostalgia. Probably I haven't played it since back
in the day. It might be it's going to be very hard to control.
Yeah, well, I remember really liking it as a child. I
backpedaled because I remembered how much I loved Golden Eye until it came to sixty
four Online. I still like Golden I don't care. I mean, I
like the nostalgia, but so fun facts about Jeff Force's Gemini and GoldenEye.
In Japan, they released a whole separate version of the Nintendo sixty four Nintendo
Switch Online app just for GoldenEye and Jeff worce S Gemini because they're rated eighteen
plus in Japan. I saw that recently because I'm making a video on free
Switch games, and I went to the Japan store to see if I'd missed
anything in the Japan store, and they had separate yeah and sixty four stores.
One said eighteen plus. Yeah, that's really interesting, So I don't
know what it's rated here. I don't think it's rated. Why either were
those games eighteen plus? They have stricter rules about violence and stuff, but
were they both m rated here? No, it's very strange. Japan has
stricter rules, but they're more lenient with eighteen plus stuff. So like here
in America, if your game is rated aoh, which is seventeen plus,
you just will not be allowed to be sold in Best Buy or Target or
anything. But in Japan they don't care if it's the eighteen plus SWAT Yeah.
Okay, so so it's very strange. Anyway, Third game my personal
favorite one I'm excited for. I want to jump back into this ten eighty
Snowboard. Remember is one of your favorite games? Huh? I mentioned that
before? Yeah, it was I think showcased when they talked about Nintendo sixty
four games coming to Switch. Yeah, I thought that was already out by
now. Nope, it just came out freaking right, now go play it.
I don't have my switch, I have my fake switch with me,
I my I odin right. I never played that game. Now's your chance,
now's my chance. It's very good. Is it like Tony Hawk but
on snow? Yes? Actually exactly. And also this was for Tony Hawk,
so it did a good job of the extreme sports thing before Tony Hawk
had a chance to do it. Okay, does it also have Spider Man?
Tony Hawk had Spider Man. It has just the worst characters, just
all different white. Yeah. Yeah, I remember loving it, so I'd
like to give it a try and see if it holds up. I'm not
gonna play Harvest Moon. I do want to try Jeff Word's Gemini. But
that game is pretty long, isn't it. That's a single play a game,
right. There's multiplayer, but it's I don't think it's good because they
do a lot of multiplayer support on the online. That'd be interesting to play
that one. It does have multiplayer, I just don't know what it is.
I don't know if it's co op or if you're playing against each other.
Oh wait. The game also includes multiplayer mode, where two to four
players can compete in traditional deathmatch games. Oh so it's like double A seven.
Yeah. I don't know anybody who like wanted to. I wonder probably
not. I wonder if the online supports it, though you ever do verse
is in Star Fox. I didn't never. I didn't like Stuff Fox.
I loved Star Fox sixty four, but the multiplayer is not great. People
are going to disagree, but I don't think you get that game for them.
Oh, I believe you a thousand percent, because I didn't think the
game was that good. I like it. I don't like a lot of
Star Wars. Yeah, of that game. For some reason, Stuff Fox
never clicked with me, other than Adventures, which I really liked. That's
weird. I know you're weird. That's the the GameCube one. We got
to play Dino Dinosaur Planet or whatever. That's that's the What does that mean?
The game it was supposed to be. I have the wrong You could
just play it Dinosaur Plan. Do we have to play it? You said
it like it was necessary. It's just cool. It's cool that this was
the game. And then they're like, okay, put star Fox in it
now, and then it turned into what you played. But that version would
not be finished. It's pretty close. Really, yeah, I have I
have it sealed in the case Dinosaur Planet. If you have Dinosaur Plan Star
Fox Adventure, you have a Dinosaur Plan. We're buying a house. I
really liked it back in the day. I mean I was a dumb kid
off. But yeah, everyone hates that game as a star Fox game.
Yeah, but I didn't even like stuff Fox at the time. I don't
think I even knew what it was. I think that was the first time
I saw stuff Fox. I loved Stuff Fox six before and then uh,
and then that's it. I think I played the GameCube ones when I was
like that didn't star Fox. What do you say, stinky? And you
know what? By then, I was playing Rogue Squadron game. Oh that
game was sick. I had that on PC actually, but it's the same.
Didn't blow up your penteum. No, I don't think I had a
pentium. I had a regular game. Takes a lot of it takes a
lot to roll. Then I guess I had a Beast when I was twelve,
Monster computer. But yeah, I played that. I played that so
much. Dude, that game sick. Yeah, I got the iode in
too. I was just talking about the fake intentive switch and it plays Rogue
Squadron two really good, and that game's really hard to emulate. I was
really excited for the Vrogue Squadron that came out recently that had VR, because
I thought that would be sick. Wait, what's it called. I think
it's just called Rogue Squadron. It's yes, it's it's called Roge squadn Yeah,
yeah, it was okay. No, wait, I think it was
quote something and it had Rogue Squadron in parentheses, or it was that it
was Rogue something. They made it confusing. Rogue squad squad is Rogues squatters.
It was Xbox one right, Squadrons, Star Wars Squadrons, no Rogue
at all. No. I bought it, never played it. I bought
it, got in VIA went oh this is hard and stuff. Playing I
couldn't follow any of the ships. I couldn't figure it out. It's hard.
Those types of games are hard. I just liked Rogue Squadron because it
was it followed some of the stories of the shows. You start, you
got to like the of the movies, You got to like play out the
battles that were in the movies and then they added some stuff. It was
I'm with You and the first Rogue Squadron, the one on N sixty four,
which they should put on Antono Switch online. That game. When freaking
Phantom Menace came out, they were like, oh, by the way,
that game you've had for a year has fighters in Yeah. They were like,
type this code you have a fucking Nabou fighter. That was yeah,
I don't remember that crazy, that's insane. That was DLC before the build
on Free d OC. Yeah, that was amazing. That blew my mind.
I was like, how's that even? Howd they do that? It's
magic? Yeah? Yeah, it was really awesome. So that's it.
We got those games not gonna play. We're done with the Yeah. Do
you want to bring the bring the tone down before we bring it back up
again? Yeah? You want to talk about death threats? Is that what
happened? I don't Yeah, we're talking about you know those things? Yeah,
there were threats. Yeah. Oh the articles will in Japanese. What
am I to do? Read it? Give me. This is a tweet
from Yankee JPN who says Nintendo Live twenty twenty four Tokyo has been canceled due
to threats. That's insane. Nintendo threats made against Nintendo's staff and spectators.
Event was due to take place Tokyo at Tokyo Big Site in Japan twenty twenty
four January twenty twenty four in Japan, uh Splatoon and Mario Kark tournaments have
been postponed. So I guess this was going to be similar to what they've
had at like packs and stuff. I'm trying to load up, so the
page explaining everything is in Japanese and it's not opening in a browser for me.
Do you want to hear the translation of their tweet? Nintendo's official tweet,
go on, we have decided to postpone Splatoon Koshian twenty twenty three at
National Finals and Nintendo Live. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for
understanding. Okay, they didn't give a reason in the tweet. I have
the web page open. I'm translating it. The reason for postive man I've
managed to transfer. Our company has been persistently receiving threats targeting our employees,
and recently the targets of these threats have spread to spectators, staff, et
cetera of the Splatoon Festival considering safety as our top priority, we have made
the decision to postpone the event. That's insane, Like, where are these
threats coming from? That they're taking them so seriously. It's I think it's
interesting they said threats on our on our cup, our employees, but then
recently they've spread to spectators and and and staff, so like so the whole
building they made it. They're like, we don't care if it's our employees,
but the fact that it's yeah, now that it's other people, Yeah,
the people who are coming now, we don't think that's what we're taking
the seriously. I know, but I understand what you mean. I actually
kind of appreciate that that they're taking it more seriously now that other people are
involved in the threats. I mean that sounds like they're afraid of what's going
to happen. I mean, I don't want to say what I'm thinking that
this is, but we're all thinking it, right, Yeah, I'm thinking
them. Yeah, it's a threat of violence, of course. Yeah more
than that though, okay, right, Like the whole building is at jeopardy.
Yeah, what else? What else could that be? Yeah? No,
I don't want to say it, but that's insane, and that's why
are they they're taking it very seriously. I guess you have to take it
seriously if someone says that. Yeah, but why would they Well, multiple
threats, so it's enough where they where they're like, forget it, we
don't need to put it on. And why people are so passionate about about
stupid video games, you know, but in Japan, Japan. It's in
America. Yeah, but Japan also like they're not you know, innocent either,
Like like what did they do? Tell me, Well, they assassinated
the fucking ex president last year? Wait? Really? Yeah, like literally
they that. Yeah, somebody shot the ex president in public with a with
a makeshift blunderbust. Oh no, I heard that. But he lived.
No he is not forever forever. I thought he lived. He was the
ex president. Oh she was the previous president. I saw that clip.
Actually that was a video of it. Yeah, he was. He was
on stage doing a like speech and he got uh, he got blunderbusted.
It's not funny. It's not funny. Oh it's crazy. I know it's
crazy. And you know Japan doesn't have like, uh the same like weapon
culture and stuff. But somebody managed to someone made it. Cob Cobble won
together. Okay, yeah, all right, I don't really so so even
though, like Japan, Japan is not really a violent country, but they
do. You know, things could happen, so they're taking it extremely seriously
and they should. Well good on them, that's cool. I just I
just can't imagine that. I don't know where the threats are coming from.
Why there happening. It's because video games nerds get crazy. You know,
no ites be crazy, Nerds be crazy, and we know we know nerds
be crazy. All right, stop being crazy, nudes. Yeah, just
have good Why can't you have nice things? Just don't just don't be you
for a minute, for a minute, just fucking think. Maybe you don't
got to do that. Just shave, take a shower, and then you
won't have to threat violence against a company that doesn't care about you, maybe
like download tinder or something, you know, just get an outlet. Yeah,
dude, leave Nintendo alone. Yeah they yeah, they need our support,
all right, So Zelda, no more of that. Huh, No
more of that either, ag and Numa said, you know what, I'm
sick of these nerds. So specifically, Numa was talking about Tears of the
Kingdom after Breath of the Wild, and just shutting down, literally point blank
shutting down any rumor or talk of there being another game in that realm in
the in the Breadth of the Wild Tears of the Kingdom everse, which I
also I assume is like DLC, any kind of story, like he's just
done. It's interesting that he straight up is saying that it's not gonna happen.
Usually they're very quiet about that. Yeah, but it makes sense,
but that they like to make completely new experiences with Zelda. It's honestly,
it was a surprise that they were doing a second Breath of the Wild.
That was a surprise. Didn't they say it was supposed to be they were
working on DC that just ended up turning into the vision of a full game.
I don't know. I'm pretty sure that's what happened, and I think
they pulled it off. I mean, there are still some people like our
dear friend Miss Click that refers to Tiers of the Kingdom as just Breath of
the Wild DLC. She really doesn't like. She really doesn't think she's just
leading into it because she knows that she's a huge Zelda fan. And I
think she very passionately feels this way about it, and that's I think.
I think she didn't like it. And then when everybody like shit on her
because she's supposed to like it because she's the older person, she was like,
no, fuck you guys, gucks. You know, like what I
do, I do that. I get it. It's a tough position to
be in. Like when I was voting for boulders Gate, I got a
little element of that because people are like, where were you the Zelda guy.
There was a guy that kept on everything I was posting, sharing a
clip of me playing Tears of the Kingdom on Twitch when it came out,
saying, guys, this is game of the year. I don't care what
happens. And he's like, why are you lying? Why are you lying?
Clearly you care what happens. Boat's Gate came out after my guy I
didn't know anyway. So they asked him how he's feeling about making a sequel
or the game, and I, I mean, I jot me to read
it. He said, nah, well I want to know exactly what he
said. Really, So someone asked the game inform of asked. Now that
it's been over a year and a half since Legend Other Tias the Kingdom.
How are you feeling about the reception of the game at this point? Do
we care about that? Answer? Not really, I really, I don't
really care. Half a year I might have misspoke. Do you think we'll
see the ultra hand return in future titles? No, I don't care.
That was a question that was asked. All right, here we go.
Sorry, I'm ia have to find it. Have you wroted out another direct
sequel, it says, Ea laughs, not Electronic Arts. Numa laughs.
Well, that would be a sequel to a sequel, which I think is
getting a bit wild and wacky when you think about it, he said,
wild and wacky, He said, a bit wild. I added, wow,
Ah, but I've mentioned I've mentioned previously with Tears of the Kingdom,
we're seeking to build on top of the world we created with Breath of the
World and really exhaust the possibilities of what could be put into that world,
which I think is true. I don't know what else you could put into
that world. Specifically, I think it is, to use a bit of
a term, an apothesis or the final form of that version of Legend of
Zelda in that regard, I don't think that we'll be making a direct sequel
to a world such as that which we created. Yeah. Again, they
like to keep things fresh result that they like to go from the ground up,
like pretty much every time. It's kind of an anomaly that they even
did a direct sequel. The only other time they do that was a Green
of Time and yeah, but it wasn't like Majora's Mask the sequel, Like,
what, isn't it not really supposed to be a sequel? Yeah,
no, I've always stood by this is the only time they have done a
direct sequel because Majority's Mask used the same engine and had the same Link,
but it was a completely different world. It was a different game style.
Yeah, in a way, Yeah, it was a sequel and everyone sees
it that way, But like not to the extent of Breath of the World
and Taste of the Kingdom, which was a direct sequel in the same world
with all the same characters. Was there any of the same characters in Major's
Mask except Link the Mask he wasn't in the first one. Yeah, I'm
pretty sure. Oh the mask the guy selling the masks, Yeah, yeah,
yeah, he was, and the mailman, like even like the guys
who were supposed to be Mario and Luigi. Those guys are in the true
but they characters side characters. And it's also like this this flip dark Place
version where they will have different careers or objectives and roles in the world too,
like the repurposed characters. Because the whole I will I don't know if
it's ever actually explained, but it's like a Link's nightmare almost like yea,
his afterlife. Well it's supposed to be after occurring enough time. It's when
kid Link leaves. Yeah, so like I don't know if that. I
don't even know if it's it's if it's even canon to anything, if it's
actually anything that actually if it happened, or if it was like all the
dream of Links. I don't know, because Links had dreams before. The
whole Windfish thing was a whole dream Windfish in Links Awakening, the whole game
is a Link is history. Oh yeah. But the point is every single
time they make is out of the game, they do it from the ground
up. The only times they haven't done that is that was that one in
this one. To be fair, I feel like Tears of the Kingdom is
more. This is what they couldn't fit in the first game, so they
made it all. Yeah, yeah, and that's what he says. It
sounds like a sequel, sure, but to me, it's more like it's
weird. It's weird. I guess it is a sequel, but like it's
it's the same game again but bigger. It's almost like they just redid it
and added more because even the and to me it did feel like it followed
all the same story beats to a tee, even the objectives to a t
but they just switched them some things out, like oh you didn't like the
skybeasts, Well now you have actual dungeons. But it's all the same,
like we do forward these and then we do four that and then we finish.
So I don't know, is it I don't know if you'd even call
it a sequel really, you think it's just it's a direct SEL's stories it
story wise is directed. Yes, yes it is, but it's Have we
ever had a sequel like this before where you go back to the exact same
world and it's almost the same thing again, but everything is bigger and better.
Definitely, Halo was it the same map, same everything. This has
definitely happened before. Yeah, I think so, okay, there's a lot
of sequels where they just it's the same. You're like, isn't this the
same They're like, oh, but the bosses are different now half Life now
half Life. I don't know, No, I mean it kind of feels
like DLC. That's the thing. I think. Tiers of the Kingdom to
me, is just oversized DLC. That it's enough DLC to make it its
own game. The thing, you know, it's crazy because at the time
we were like everybody saying it's DLC, but it's not. It's so different
now we're going back to It's both. To me, it's on one hand,
you can't just say it's DOC because it's so much more than that,
and that is undercutting and underplaying what it did. But at the same time,
I can't think of many other sequels that are literally the same game but
more in a way that a DC expansion is. I just think what makes
it not feel like DLC is that you have so many new abilities that make
you play the game completely differently. No, I agree, But if they
had thrown those, if you if they added those into Breath of the Wild
light game, yeah, it would be the same as late game Tis of
the Kingdom. You wouldn't even know what game you're in. Well, yeah,
yeah, because yeah, if I put Mario Sunshine and Marrio sixty four,
it'd be the same game. I don't know if that's true. Mechanics
are different. No, yeah, you changed the mechanics by adding the flood.
He's lost me. Well, right, it looked better. It did
look like it's a different It's an interesting conversation. It's kind of a mute
conversation. I agree, But you're right, that's not I didn't say.
That's a discredit what you were saying. Well, I think both points are
valid, is what I'm saying. Umm, they I mean they asked him
a bunch of questions. I don't know if we care about anything else.
That's like ten more questions in here. This one is really interesting to me.
I'm gonna read it all a second time to see if it does read
the way I'm thinking. But to preface it, when the game came out
of the Kingdom and the trailers came out, people were finding similarities in certain
shots, like when Link was up on Epona rearing the horseback. It looked
like a shot from a Karina a Time. And then there's a shot of
Gannon kneeling before the king which looks exactly like the shot of Ocarina at Time.
So the question was, have you heard the theory that some scenes tearers
of the Kingdom of perhaps loose retellings of the events of Okerina a Time.
And he just says, oh no, I'm hearing that for the first time
now, wow, which is very short. And then he follows up and
he's like, oh, well, there's Rahu, there's the imprisoning Rau was
a character in a Karina a Time, There's the imprisoning war. There are
scenes in terms of the Kingdom that resemble a Kerna at a time, particularly
flashbacks, for example, the one where Ganandorf is kneeling before the king before
he portrays him, so like a lot. And then he says, we
understand that fans have theories, and that's a fun thing for fans to do.
We also think about what kinds of theories fans might come up with when
we create, but it's not like we're trying to plan ahead for those theories.
In this series. There's the idea of reincarnation in that link. Zelder
as they appear in different titles. They are not the same person per se,
but they're sort of fundamental soul that carries on. Because of that,
certain scenes may turn out similar, Like you're saying the antagonist kneeling before the
king, those scenes might turn out because they're sort of like glimpses that represents
the series as a whole for people to pick up on that and see that
we really like and we enjoy, and it helps create this myth of legend
of Zelder, which to me sounds like he said, Oh, I guess
we did do that before. That's cool. It's like he's saying that wasn't
intentional that that's like the exact same scene. There's a lot of Zelda that's
redone over and over again. Isn't it that the same? Yeah, I
mean it's reincarnations. So like when you see that scene of it, it's
so bud in my brain as one of the most poignant scenes of our Karina
because the first time you meet Zelder, she's looking through a window, and
then you look through and it's Gannon kneeling before the king, and you receive
the bad guy. He does the same thing in this game, and I
was like, Oh, they did it that again, and that's a cool
throwback. But he's he's almost almost reads like he's saying, yeah, whoops.
You I don't know. I think I saw that, and I honestly
I saw that, and I didn't go, oh, yeah, they did
this in our Karina. I didn't think. I didn't put that together.
Man, you're not so I don't think you're supposed to. It's not like,
you know, I think. I think there's just a king and it's
a it's not a Harrison Ford walking into the Millennium falcon and the whole movie
pauses for collaps. You know, it's a what I what I figured it
was was this makes sense in this story. And if you've played Okarina,
you might notice that we did the same thing again. A little cheeky,
but it's like the same framing. He kneels like the same animation, and
he's looking out the same way at the same king. It's like shot for
shot, and he's like, no, really, he only knows how to
do that scene one way, I guess. So it's kind of like when
I make a YouTube video and then I find out I actually made the same
one five years before. And forgot I've done that before. Well, So,
speaking of Zelda, while I read more of these questions, do you
hear about the movie? I heard that the director wants to make it like
a live action in Miyazaki. That was what I was gonna say. And
then and then somebody quote tweeted it and said just animated. Yeah. When
when that movie was announced, everyone was like it should be like like Spirited
Away and stuff like that. Right, that's that guy. Yeah, and
he's essentially saying that he wants to do that, but real, Yeah,
I just I think it's actually a good sign for the live asset and the
bar pretty high. Yeah, it sets it sets a tone and an expectation,
but it also is a little bit more reassuring because he at least he
can see what people want. Yeah, I I I don't. I still
know how I feel about it. I'm sure it'll be at least mediocre.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean my feelings on the movie hasn't changed. But
I think that was the first reassuring thing I've heard so far. Yeah,
I mean, I don't think it I don't, I don't know. I
mean, like I wanted to marry a movie to be really good, and
then we saw it and it's like, oh, okay, I understand why
this is being made. It's it's it's fine. It's a fine movie,
you know, like I feel like it could have been a lot better.
And the Zelda movie is going to be made for the same sort of audience,
so that kind of scares me. It's gonna be great. I just
wanted to be PG thirteen. Won't you want one boob in it? I
hope it. I hope it kind of feels like The Witches Season one,
but a little bit more lighthearted. But that's also Yeah, that's why I
was saying it, like, it would be cool if it's a little more
gritty. Yeah, it would makes sense. I mean, no like sex
and blood and stuff, but like that feel yeah. Uh. The last
question he asked was, what do you think about making a modern Ocarin or
a time remake modern? O Oh, okay, that would be cool.
Yeah, he said, huhuh, no comment. Damn shut that ship down.
I didn't say no. Nintendo should remake some stuff that they're I mean,
they're Nintendo, They're the best developers in the business. A lot of
their old ship still holds up today. But i'd like to see you reimagine
they've been remaking some two D things, right, they did Link Links Awakening.
They can see Pokemon Company doing those remakes. I was a little disapostos
did Mario ark g. I was a little disappointed in that. I feel
like, yeah, can we talk about that. It's a little ugly.
Yeah, it felt a little bit like the Pokemon Like. It feels like
they took the game and put a little little windowchine on it and then just
let it rip. And it's like, you can't do that with an old
game. You gotta if you're going to modernize it, you got to modernize
it. It feels a little half assed. Yeah, there's still like weird
things that break in the game that just feel like an old game that I
just I can't get past. I haven't played it yet. I don't know.
If I don't, I don't know what it is. I know artists
objective, but like I'm streaming it right and most people think it looks great.
I feel like I'm in the minority. But I can't help but look
at all the cheap assets and glossy. I guess glossy is just the word
plastic, looking like trees and it's like it's I like the way Mario looks,
and a lot of the characters. Like the way the characters I think
is what fools people because all the characters look phenomenal, they look fantastic and
they pop on the scene, but everything around them is these flat, boring,
basic textures and it's just not very pretty Superintendo. It was just texted.
Yeah. Yeah, but it's a remake, like, I don't know,
make it look good. Yeah, there's all. They didn't do enough.
Usually Nintendo puts a lot of polish on all their stuff, but a
lot of some of these remakes. Was it the same people who did Links
Awakening? No, right, No, which I thought at first because I'd
like it Awakening with We looked up when I was on a stream, I
was like, who made this? I can't remember, look look it up,
but it was it was another random company of like they've done nothing than
like a mobile game. Oh really, that's what I remember. Yeah,
I hope it's not the people who made Brilliant Diamond Shining Pearl. Actually they
had made they'd done a bunch of dragon Quest ports in the past. Yeah,
they've been doing like dragon Quest ports for a long time and working on
like ds RTE Piazza. Yeah, that's what they made before, a lot
of dragon Quest, dragon Quest, mostly Dragon Quests, Innocent Life, Opuna,
Ghost Series, Pinball A Tech, a lot of gd It's mostly dragon
Quest. Wow. It's just so weird to me every time the nintender is
that Square is that? Why did they have to go with they do something
with Square? Well? I don't know if they had to, but well
who Pazza is Italian for a public Square? Okay, the company piazzas involvement
in the development of dragon Quest series by Enix and later Square X. Are
they owned by Squaring X? I don't know. I mean it sounds like
they have a good relationship with them. Yeah, is this game? Is
this game still in somewhat conjunction with squad That's what I'm saying. I think
it might be. I guess it would have to be. That's why a
lot of people thought that we were never going to see the game again,
because it was maybe there was when Nintendo was like, we want to do
this and Square was like, only if we do it. Very weird for
Nintendo to give the keys to Square. I mean, they probably didn't want
to deal with it. That's the thing I was going to say with like
all these remakes they keep doing the Pokemon one and Nintendo Pokemon one was really
half as. They keep getting like random mobile companies and teams that have the
dumb ports to the switch but never actually like designed a game or made a
game or designed visuals, and they get them to like redo these beloved series.
I don't understand is that no one else Shintaro Majima, he's just known
for dragon Quest. Yeah, it's his studio, does he does? He
make the game, worked with Squarrey Knicks, Arte Piazza, and Heartbeat,
So he's just an artist. Yeah, so he works. So what in
this case? I think it's someone who kind of like helps design some assets,
help figure out some coding, but like they don't make the game.
They don't design the whole game. They're not making these dragon Quest games.
They're just part of the team helping out. They're like a hired contractor,
Which is why I don't get why you just give someone like that the keys
to okay remake a whole Mario game from the nineties. Intelligence systems and they
are the ones who do fire emblement Paper Mario, which is weird because you
would expect that to look better, and Warriorware, which that makes sense.
What team is this? Intelligent Systems? Which that is? Do they work
on the game too? They they're they're published by an intent, They're they
work with Nintendo and are the publisher or the developer. It's a developer.
But they are primarily known for fire em Blomen, Paper Mario and some dragon
Quest also and Warriorware. But those all look good. Those will look good.
Yeah, I think art is the main creator here is the main developer
of this project? Are they Piazza de Piazza? Yeah, Square is like
Mike Piazza Hidden Hidden dingers don't worry about I couldn't find who owns them,
but they do work with Square. I don't know. I mean, it's
not that bad. I don't want to keep hopping on about it. It's
passable. For this remake. Does it look better than the original? I
might rather play the original? I might rather play the original. Yeah,
I think I might like the original. Mad somebody playing along with me so
that I can get the save file for the original SNS version, because I'd
rather to play it on a like a handheld like an emulator. I think
I'd like it more because I'm willing to look past the flaws because it's a
superintendent gains. Yeah, you know, I think it actually looks better as
the retro style because I just don't think they nailed it other than the characters.
Yeah, I don't think they nailed it as The animations look pretty bad
too. It's the animations and the way that you move and stuff just feels
like an old game. That talking swort at the start looks really cheap,
and I'd rather I'd rather just play it on the old stuff. I'd rather
play it at two forty p. You know, I'd be able to with
you on this too easy? Wasn't that a big complaint that people were a
new one? Yeah, I don't know if they but I don't know if
they dumbed it down. But yeah, it was easy. I didn't like
a beginner mode. They begin added the finishers, which was not part of
the old game. So everyone was telling me it's too easy, but like
in what regard, because like I was dying, Like, I didn't think
it was too easy. I died one time because I thought my health bar
was the percentage thing on the left. I didn't realize that wasn't other than
that, I only died when I got stuck in that loop and eventually ran
out of health because I got hit by the same enemy five times. Yeah,
I watched that. I got stuck in the loop next to the door,
so I literally couldn't move. So my loop was Okay, we both
got stuck in the same loop. Mine was. I didn't realize it was
happening because I was talking. But these enemies are running out at the top
of the castle. It's like right in the beginning of the game, you
have to get in the door, but they run out so quickly and you
got stuck right at the door. Yeah, you have to navigate around these
guys and the movement's not great in the galn So that's frustrating. I got
stuck at the door where they were coming out, so I the game wouldn't
even load. Like, once you get out of a battle, you don't
have control over Mario for like two seconds, so you come out of the
battle, guy hits me. Yeah, comes out of the kids out,
So there's nothing I could do. So I was just stuck stuck in a
loop of battles. Yeah, me, I further down than I could have
moved. But I was talking to chat and so I finished the battle.
I'd get distracted and then i'd realized I was in a battle again, and
I would just do the battle, and then I'd go back to talking.
And then at some point I realized, why do I keep getting out that?
I realized that they kept I didn't realize I keep getting on the stre
every time I looked away. You were actually like, trap trapped. I
was trapped. Yeah, it doesn't sane. It just says they've been working
on Dragon Quest games since nineteen ninety six. Well, you know what,
then you need to go back to Dragon Questions. Stick with what you're good
at. Pal. It's on the Unity Engine, for what it's worth.
Anyway, I thought the combat was fine, Like, I like the game
was great. I just okay, I just I just feel like they could
with it this year, and like, I liked it a lot, and
I was like, oh, this is gonna be cool. I don't know,
I'll judge it because I like them. Ma, why did we start
talking about this remake talking about the OP remake? Oh? Yeah, that
he wasn't I would love that. I'd love a Mario sixtyfore remake, like
I love Maris actually for but freakin give that some modern controls. I would
like remakes of either of those, especially yours, because yours might make it
fun for me. But I'm worried about what Nintendo is doing with the remakes,
and like, who are they? Who's gonna do it? No,
they'd have to make it if it was a mainline Mario game. Who's gonna
who you're gonna give it to, because you have to do it yourself.
I want it. If I get a new let's say Mario game, I
want it to look, if not like Odyssey or three D World, better
than. I want it to look better than. There's no reason why not.
It has to be the part now. I don't want it to look
cheap and plastic and cute and chibi. And it's like, oh, we
did like a cute little thing because we hired a mobile team and they don't
have the resources to make it look good, but didn't want to look good.
People said the same thing for Links Awakening, though they said that they
didn't like it because it looked too chibby and toy, but I thought that
was people didn't like that I thought it was really nice. Yeah, I
actually think it really worked for that game. But also it all the assets
looked a lot nicer, I think than they do in the new game.
But also it was like the first time we'd kind of seen that, whereas
now it's like, oh this again, we could do other stuff. Yeah,
it doesn't even look like that though. It looks like the last thing
I had was Metro Prime four. Development is rumored to have been completed,
but is delayed due to cut scenes, which doesn't sound completed to me.
I heard that they did that with a different game. Also, I heard
that that's like a normal thing. I think it's cut scenes. I think
that Nintendo likes to shelve things. According to Poper Genus, the state of
Metro Prime Force cut scenes are really bad. That's a little different. All
was as of a few months ago, and this is essentially delaying the game.
He believes smmus's latest adventure will be in a center Switch title, and
not one that is specifically developed for the success of Switched to that we mentioned.
The plans may have changed since he last heard it about it. How
bad would they be? I mean the game was so bad. They can
do true so it could be pretty bad. I don't know if he means
that they're bad or they're just unfinished, like they're just they're just working on
it. I'd imagine they would make a lot of the game and then and
then worry about the cut scenes later, because that's just window dressing. Like
you want the game to be good as good as possible. I believe that
they're pretty well along with Metroid Prime, for it's been apparently ever finished.
It would be wild to me if they have finished it without saying anything else
and no real substantial leaks have come out about anything to do with it.
I Nintendo's pretty buttoned up. They they are, but do you hear things
from people and you can never believe it. I think why this is so
crazy is because they usually buttoned up until they want to announce it, and
then it comes out a year or two later. This was they announced it,
and now it's been nineteen years and we have no idea what it looks
like, and apparently it's done, so that's kind of nuts. I mean,
Breath of the Wild was done for a long time before they farted it
out, well because they were waiting for switch. Yeah yeah, actually,
actually remember him, Remember him? Remember that guy. I don't remember what.
Who did it, who's done it? Who kept it? I don't
know, he kept it a little secret. I don't know what. Uh.
I have never been more intrigued in what, like. I want to
know so much what this looks like. I want a whole documentary of the
development. Yeah we'll never see. Yeah, I want to know. I
want to know what it looked before. I wanted to know what it looks
like now. It sounds like if it's done that they've developed it purely for
this switch. So it's easily going to be one of the biggest, hopefully
banger games on the whole console coming out right at the end. So what
to send off for the switch? It's possible to switch to thing, I
mean, I mean, they could do the same thing where they delay it,
put it on switch to and it has like a higher frame rate resolution
situation. But either way, the game is the game. Where the game
is the game, the game is the game. I mean, they're saying
there's gonna be an account system that you can transforl your shit over. So
m hmm, do you think it will have a multiplayer aspect? It's got
to really, I don't know. If it's got it doesn't got to my
brain. Went to Metroid Prime on the on the DS that that had a
heavy multiplayer, that had a heavy multiplayer focus. It would be cool if
it had a multiplayer, but I really hope they didn't put any time into
that. Just focus on the game makes sense. If they did that,
it would probably be bad. Potendo's not doing good multiplayer stuff. Make the
game good, release the game, do doc for multiplayer later, don't even
worry about it, or release the multiplayer as a playable demo, and only
that. What is this, hailer? I think they did that for the
DS version of Hunters Hunters. I like that. That was weird because you
like controlled it with the touch pit. You like the touch pit was your
right stick. Oh no, yeah, it was really weird. I never
even entertained that that was a launch title for the three DS. I would
go to game Stop and I'd be like, oh, Metroid, what the
mom come pick me up. I didn't play many three DS games. I
remember one of the first ones I bought was kid Icarus and you had to
you had to use a little nub and I was like, I don't know
if I liked the three DS because of that, because I didn't really like
a lot of extra button Yeah, I was like, I just I'll just
play the WU A lot of people really liked the Kids Uprising and I did
not at all. It reminded me of the game Boy astro Boy ones.
I don't know that's astro Boy was good. Yeah, astro Boy, game
Boy Advance. Yeah, I don't know why it reminded me of that.
That's weird because that's a I love that game, but that game's good.
Kind of reminded me of a war Zone three. Wow, remember that game?
Just played it pretty good? I want to talk about it. Yeah,
sure, that's our new game. It's a new game, fella.
That's our new fella. I've been putting a lot of hours into Call of
Duty. Not a lot, I mean more than everything else I've been playing.
We usually played valor In all the time, and we talk about that
on the show and nobody cares. Call of Duty is that new game that
we're going to be playing all the time and nobody's gonna care about. I
weirdly was so excited for the New war Zone to come out. I don't
I've never been in a Call of Duty. I honestly have never cared about
Call of Duty at all. I did back in the Xbox three sixty days.
I was into it. I couldn't get into it. I've always seen
it as like a oh, you played Call of Duty. I play real
games kind of thing. Play real games, solder. I mean, honestly,
that's how I felt. And then war Zone came along, and I
was so enamored by the concept of the Battle Royale and I don't even play
like a little bit of Fortnite, so I was like, I'll give it
a shot, and I started playing it, and very quickly my friend Zeppo,
who you've met through Discord now, turned out he played it too,
and we hadn't really talked for like eight years since high school or since I
left Australia, and we just got into it together and it became our game.
And we were on war Zone every night, catching up and reminiscing,
and that was arounding winds pandemic time. Yeah, so that was me and
my friends were hanging out in a war zone. It was awesome. It
was awesome. I actually really liked it. It felt good. I was
like, man, call of Duty is pretty fun and it was a great
game. It was great. And then I tried to play the actual Call
of Duty that came along with war Zone, and I was like, oh,
I'll stick to war Zone. Yeah, that's fine, I don't need
to play this. It's like, what I like so much about war Zone
is that, like the the guns that everybody's using will change. Like everybody
be like, oh, this is the gun. There's always a new man.
Pop will discover like, oh this gun is good. Now forget this
gun, or they'll release an update that nerves that gun, and then another
gun's the best gun, huh, And it makes you want to unlock that
gun. The best way to unlock that gun is to play it in the
multiplayer of the whatever called duty's currently out, So you're bouncing between the both
games or well now the zombies. You're bouncing between all those trying to unlock
all the cool ship and that that made it like an RPG, almost like
I'm like a freaking online multire was a lot there was a lot of ADHD
sort of riddled things to do. Yeah, that game, and I would
play around, I play around the war Zone and I go all right,
hold on, I gotta fuck with my load out and you like mess with
everything, dropped me back in and they drop in. You're like, oh,
I wish I had a different attachment. And that was awesome. It
was good. And then war Zone two came out and it was horrible.
Sucked. It was so bad. They changed way too much and I hated
it and never wanted to play it. The map sucked, The way the
game felt to play sucked. They slowed it down, they got rid of
slide canceling, they did all the attachments differently. Well, you could normally
have attachments, but then you could fine tune them and you could tweet.
Yeah, and it was way too much. It was too much. And
then also like before and now, when you get a gun, you use
that gun. You leveled that gun up, you get that gun's attachments makes
sense right in two you had to use this gun to get this gun US
attachment. Yeah, so you had to use all of this. It made
no sense. It was horrible. And we I don't know if we ever
you and I actually ever played it together. We did once, like one
time, yeah, yeah, and we were like, nah, yeah,
we really forget this. I didn't like it. Now I was excited for
this one because I wanted. I still want war Zone. I still want
the old war Zone. I want that experience me too. It's not I'm
willing to give it a shot. It's not here. It's but it's close,
a lot closer than what we've had, and I am enjoying it.
But before this came out, we were playing just regular Model Warfare three,
which were having Okay, yeah it was okay. I don't really love the
multiplayer, but I'm falling into that trap now where I'm playing that to unlock
stuff for war Zone. I only played a very little bit of war Zone
solos, which is not fun. Solos is not good. Zombies is the
easiest way to unlock and level things. Yeah, I just thought, I
think the multiplayers are it's kind of dumb actually, Like, so there's a
gun you unluck at level forty four. I mean we've been playing this whole
time and I'm only level thirty eight. I'm know when they of the gun.
If you go into Zombies and find the gun on the ground or someone
hands it to you and then you leave with it, it's yours now,
Oh you just have it. That's great. Yeah. Uh. There's also
the armory unlocks where you can like if like I needed the Stinger because that's
one of the meta guns people are using as a sidearm. You go to
that gun in the in the inventory and you just click that you want to
do the challenges for it. I played one online match and unlocked it.
I had I had a complete four or five. I had to complete a
bunch of challenges, daily challenges, and it just it all did it in
one match, so I got the gun immediately and then telling complete the challenge.
It's likeah, play guitars. Not as good. It's not as good
as it was in the original game Double Base. Every time you do anything,
you open up a chest and don't go D D D cool man,
lo shit, it is cool. It's stupid, but it's cool. I
don't know. It's it's hard to explain to people that don't like shooters or
war Zone why I like it so much. But there is something about dropping
in with the boys. You have your favorite spot, yeah, just about
you have your favorite spot. You kind of camp it out, you make
it yours. It's your little home. I love getting a sniper and just
getting those headshots as people are like you run around, you collect stuff,
and then you basically make your own build. You're like playing a little mini
art's adjective because you die and you're like, oh well I get to loot
again. Yeah. And then you get your load out, which is the
shit you've been building for the whole year. Yeah. And then you have
another bill. You get your guns and your perks. Yeah. And then
you go against other people and see if you're better. Yeah. It's just
fun, I'll say. Though. I only played it a little bit and
I ran into a couple problems. The first one was I got a scavenger
contract, which is you get a mission and you just find gold chests.
It just takes you to them. One of those chests was in a building
that was completely seeing that what happened to me yesterday. You know what's worse.
It was one of those buildings and I found a way in through the
top. There was a hole in the roof. I went in, got
the thing I was trapped, the one that my scavenger contract ended up in.
It said doors locked, come back during public event. What. Yeah,
it was a It was a building that was meant for something. What
I happened and that happened to me too. Okay, where I couldn't get
in to get the scavenger. The other problem that I had was I uh
dropped in and there were two guys that were shooting each other. So they
cute. Oh yeah, baby, So I flicked on one and shot him
and he died. Flicked on him, yep, and the other guy died,
but I didn't get to kill. So I was like, oh,
maybe they just shot each other at the same time, flicked each other.
I got an assist. Oh you didn't get any kid, I didn't get
any kill, but they both died, so I was like, maybe they
shot each other at the same time. That's weird. It was just like
just fucking died. And then you'll just they're like I was watching a streamer
play and he clearly was one v one on a person shot him a lot.
The guy died zero kills. Oh so I think there's a glitch where
you just don't get the kill just does not count. Oh no, that's
horrible. You definitely got your kill, I know. And the only other
problem I have is just normal call of duty stuff where you're shooting a guy
a lot and then he flicks on you and hits you in the head once
you're fucking dead. Yeah, that's my biggest My biggest gripe is as much
as I love the load outs because we're starting fresh and everyone else has max
guns. Yeah, everyone we come against. I'm doing the best I can.
I see them, I start shooting at them. They seem they feel
themselves getting shot, look at me and go, oh that's cute. Bang.
Yeah, no I'm dead. So in Call of duty, the meta
is always going to be how can you kill somebody the quickest. So you're
building your load out to have the best aim and just fastest dps or whatever,
which means getting the meta gun and leveling it up. Yeah. So
if you don't have the meta gun, you're not going to be able to
compete with these other people. I always did Riot Shield. That was I
used to have a Ninja Turtle load out. I called it. It was
Riot Shield and the sword and you just run around and do that. It's
kind of fun. Yeah, So I'm excited again to last night. I
uh took my Lenovo and into bed and was just grinding out the webs by
myself and fucking my Lenovo. I was having sex with it. It's being
sponsored by Lenovo. Lenovo. No, but yeah, I'm I like that
loop of like grinding out new weapons to like try in the game and then
bringing them into the competitive mode and stuff. IM glad you're having fun with
the video game. That's so rare for you. And it's cool that we
have handheld PCs now because wherever I want, it works shockingly well. On
the Lenovo. Yeah, like you were saying, you get a hundred frames,
Yeah, I was getting over a hundred frames. I have the resolutions
have but I'm getting over a hundred frames on it, and the screen is
over one hundred. It's the full resolution the too, fifty sixty twenty five
sixty twenty five sixty I think my brain there's more than that. It's twenty
five to sixty by like fourteen something, I don't know. And I was
getting like forty frames, which is pretty good. Yeah. I mean you
lower it if you want better frames, but that's still pretty crazy, pretty
crazy. It's a high resolution screen, so cutting it in half gives you
eight hundred piece. So I just did that because it makes the scaling look
nice. Angry. This has been a blast. Oh yeah, it's been
so good to have you on the podcast. I have to poop. I
have to poop too, and I have a lung. Drive on to play
some cold duty. Now take I took a train here, Yeah, take
a train back? How does that work? You just get You just go
there and you're like, get hey, get I'm here, you get it.
Let's I gotta take the subway to the to the Long is Is it
an am track which is Regulus? It's like amtrack, but it's Long Island,
So you just go there and get a ticket. I get it on
the phone. Oh okay, yeah, let's it was Amtrak. How much
is it's ten bucks? Oh? I don't know why I am track?
I would actually catch it if it wasn't two hundred dollars every time. It
makes no sense. I'm only going an hour. It's a train. It's
going there anyway. I don't know. Picked me up. Is there a
different version that's not Amtrak that does it? I don't know. I only
know that that's all I know. There might be another one that you could
probably, well, I'll look into it. But it's so crazy. Man.
Even if my car wasn't electric, I would still catch I would still
drive because gas is cheaper than that. Why is the train so much.
There's definitely another one. There's definitely another one you can get because the Amtrak's
got the lounge car, this cafe car's got the you know there isn't.
I think there is another one because I accidentally got on the wrong train once
and they were like, this isn't an Amtrak, So was it significantly shit?
Here? It was a little crappier and it took twice as long to
get there. That's probably the one, but I also don't want to take
twice as long to get maybe no, not the long Island road roads.
Fine, I'm not taking it in the middle of the night with This was
really good ranger game. This was really fun. Everybody let me know,
did do it? Yep? Oh my god? All right? Episode We
have two more left, don't forget and the final one is gonna be a
big special bash and we're gonna have cake, are we? I've decided?
Now? Oh, okay, do you want me to get it? Well,
you gotta you should two things at once about cake. I need to
know both do that. Yes, my friend can make it. Okay,
pay her, but yeah, I wasn't gonna say anything related to that.
Are we gonna do I'll say this on the podcast. We're gonna do something
where we buy each other something. Yes, do you still want to do
that? We can make it one thing. I don't want to bunch a
little crap. He's gonna buy me something. One thing I was gonna I
had an idea for someone I wanted to get you. I feel like I
have an idea. I can't get it for you now, I feel like
I should say it. I was gonna get you a custom S M seven
B because there B and H has a special when Red War you can buy
those and we can. Well, you're not doing these anymore, it's not
true. I don't we were gonna do loud you're gonna do We could keep
them, we could keep them. I was just gonna get one. It's
five hundred dollars. I mean, if that's why, why can't you do
that? Because you're not gonna use them anymore. But I can use it
at home for my streams. I have the red top and everything. Never
mind, Okay, well that's what I'm getting you. It's five hundred dolls.
Get me some those five hundred dollars? Can you put it on tendot.
I'm gonna yes, but now it's not gonna be as fun or interesting
because I spoiled it. Cut this out and make it seem like a surprise
later. Well he wants to be. He got it out of my brain.
I actually have an idea for what I want. Also don't know if
I'll be able to get it in time, because it's not even out yet.
It comes out in mid December. I have I have a great idea
for what I want to do for you. Oh God, but I don't.
I don't possess the no hell and you do, but I don't.
I don't want to ask you how to do it. So I gotta figure
that out. I'm sure you know somebody who can figure it, answer it.
I'll figure it out, all right, everybody, Thank you so much.
We've got a Patreot episode coming up right now, which is a fun
one because we recorded it two weeks ago. So watch that. We recorded
it. The first thing we did, we got it. We did links
below to everything. If you're listening watching, do all the things wherever you
are, do the thing that that place lets you do rate it the highest,
give it the like, subscribe, follow all of that. I appreciate
you all so much, and we'll see you next week. Oh wait,
oh my god, Yeah I do that. Wait. I want to do
it too, but I don't. I don't know if you can do it
on the wide. Oh my god.

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