Best of the Week on The Dan Patrick Show

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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to the Seahawks who dominated the Patriots twenty nine to thirteen. Although it's an interesting way to say dominating the Patriots, because it certainly felt that way. But it was only nine to nothing, and you kept thinking, goll Y, if they get a pick six, they get a fumble, they get maybe a long run, something here, and we kept waiting for something here. And then we had an exciting fourth quarter. But it was one of those games where I kept thinking, is New England going to steal this? This great defensive performance by Seattle will be wasted by a couple of plays. But give credit to Seattle. They came up with big plays when they needed to. Drake May was sacked six times. Sam Donald played okay, Drake May played okay in the fourth quarter. Kenneth Walker Junior, the third named most valuable Player. After the game, Sam Donald talked about what this moment meant?

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Speaker 3: Sam, what does this moment mean?

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, you know, just everything that's that's happened in my career, about to do it with this team. I wouldn't want it any other way. I'm so proud of our guys, our defense. I mean, I can't say enough great things about our defense, our special teams. I know we won the Super Bowl, but we could have been a little bit better on offense, but I don't care about that right now. It's an unbelievable feeling.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: I'm just so happy for the the guys in the locker room and the coaches that put in so much effort throughout the whole season.

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Speaker 3: That defense was spectacular. They were wonderful.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think we all thought during the year that New England was going to be there a year earlier because it's a very young team. They got cap space, they got draft picks. I mean, they are set up for the future, and they did look like they were a year or two early there.

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Speaker 3: Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that was impressive really from start to finish, And I thought Chris collins Worth brought up a great point. New England's defense in the first half so aggressive, overly aggressive, as if to say, we have to win it with defense. We don't have enough offense. And that's why I picked Seattle to win twenty four to thirteen. I didn't think New England could score twenty points Therefore it came down to could Seattle score twenty points. They ended up with twenty nine, but Mike McDonald a lot of praise. He was calling the defensive plays while being the head coach, and that defense was everywhere swarming, and even New England's Christian gonzalezly he made some big plays. But you know, you had too many players on Seattle making too many plays. And Kenneth Walker when you're around running backs like that because he's not tall and you go, how is he so fast? But he's so good And there's one play in particular, and Collinsworth even pointed this out. He was kind of walking up to the line of scrimmage. I mean, leve On Bell created a whole new running style and here was Kenneth Walker just kind of walking up and then boom, he sees his moment and takes advantage of it. They had enough plays to be able to keep New England's defense honest. But it doesn't matter the stats for Sam Donald, and I know you can be really picky. We'll go back and look at Tom Brady's first couple of Super Bowls. Okay, they won with defense. They didn't ask much Peyton Manning's last Super Bowl. He didn't do anything. Sometimes you're along for the ride, but what you did to get your team to that point where you can be along for the ride. Give Sam Darnold a lot of credit because you get kicked to the curb. You've played for five teams and now you're a Super Bowl champ. The Seahawks head coach Mike McDonald on the decision to bring Sam Darnald to Seattle.

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Speaker 5: John deserves a lot of credit to that processing.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of on chartered waters that you have to navigate and you know it. To the outside eye, probably seemed like it happened fast, but he did a great job of guiding us through all those decisions.

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Speaker 5: We're on record with it. Clint had a relationship with him.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of people on our building that new Sam that you could.

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Speaker 5: Vouch for who he was as a person. The tape backed it up.

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Speaker 6: I think people made too big of a deal of him of like the last two games in the season, which I thought was a dumb like watch the whole season. The guy played great all year. He came in to limit and beat us. They won like fourteen games. So Clint knew he could do the stuff that we want him to do in our offense, and then how's the rock and roll.

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of sloppy take if you say it was not a good football game, because then you're missing out on the dominance of that Seattle defense. I mean, you can go back to the eighty five Bears against the Patriots. You might say that wasn't a good game. You're missing the point. You're watching a historical performance by the defense. And that's what you had with Seattle. The fourth Super Bowl team in history to allow fewer than fourteen points, get six or more sacks, and score a defensive touchdown. The Broncos did that in Super Bowl fifty when they dominated the Panthers. The Bears did that when they beat the Patriots forty six to ten. And then the Raiders, going back to the Jack Squire picked six on Joe Theisman. That was thirty eight to nine. That's pretty good company there with some great defenses. And I know, and it comes down to, as I tell you every single year at this time, if you can run the football and play defense, you can win the Super Bowl. If you get to this point this game and given all the tension and how Super Bowls get out of hand one mistake and then it leads to another. If you can run the football, be as close to turnover free, and play great defense, you'll win. And that's what happened again last night. So all the fanfare for throwing the ball wide open offenses, it came down to Kenneth Walker running the football and that defense being unbelievable. All right, Seaton, pull question for hour one is going to be what got.

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Speaker 3: A couple options here for you?

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Speaker 7: Sort of off that topic, which unit deserves most credit for Seattle's win? Run, the pass rush, secondary run game or special teams.

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Speaker 3: Special teams, special teams.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody was really good that you mentioned, But when you they place such an emphasis on special teams in Seattle, and when your field goal kicker and your punter are changing the game, they're making their field goals and their punts are inside the ten yard line, huge, massive, and what that does psychologically when you have the ball at the twenty or twenty five, or you have it at the one and you're not moving the ball at all and you have no big play capabilities. I thought that was just devastating for the Patriots. But that pass rush, if you don't have to blitz man, is that an advantage? And Tony Dungey talked about that. We've seen these moments where you go, they don't even have to rush another guy, they just have four and that allows the secondary. If you got four going, you got a bunch of guys back there, and you had nobody who was going to beach over the top. Seattle never worried about getting beat deep. It was all right in front of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Paul Michael Dixon the punter for the Seahawks. Seven punts forty eight yard average, three of them down inside the six yard line, two returns for a total of four yards. He also was the holder on all the kicks and he got a couple of bats snaps, but to.

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Speaker 2: Be able to pin them back. I don't think he had a touch back in the playoffs. Seattle didn't have a turnover in the playoffs. I mean, those things don't happen. And I think with Sam Darnold you were probably waiting for now. He didn't play good in the first half, and I thought New England had a couple of chances, certainly for interceptions, maybe a pick six, but that Seattle defense was fun to watch, dominating, and that left side of the Patriots offensive line, two rookies over there. I was fixated on that side of the ball for the first I was just I kept watching and those guys were drowning. They were drowning there in Seattle Green and you could tell Drake May, I mean, that's where you see ghosts. Sam Darnold famously said he saw ghosts. I'm gonna guess Drake May saw some ghosts and will continue to see some ghosts. And I know afterwards he talked about his shoulder. There was talk about the shoulder during Super Bowl Week. He got it shot up to play. Might be one of those where he gets it cleaned out in the off season. I don't know how much of a factor that had. I don't know if it would have mattered if he was completely healthy. Just there was no time to think when he went back there. All right, So we got a poll question on the part of the Seahawks team that stood out the most.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then this is sort of cut from the same cloth though, But what actually decided last night's game was at the Seahawks pass rush and the Patriots offensive line. Special teams or coaching.

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Speaker 5: Man, you got it.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's all of the above.

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Speaker 2: Like that was total team total, and the only dip was really JSN wasn't a fact. I mean, imagine that if I said, yeah, they won and JSN wasn't a factor at all, and he wasn't and Sam played subpar, but they ended up dominating, you know, to win it in double figures. And you kept wondering, if you know, is there something more that New England can do? And here's Josh McDaniels, who has more experience than any other offensive coordinator in NFL history in the Super Bowl, and I kept thinking, I want Drake Maye to get the ball and get it out of his hands, like right away, you know, almost a Brady like playbook of just get it out. I don't care where it's going, get it out, because if you go back and you're seven steps back and you got that rush coming off the edge, you're gonna have a lot of company all night long.

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Speaker 7: This this time, we're gonna stop him. Yeah, let's just run it again. This time we'll stop him. What the hell, dude, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I think we're tiring them out.

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Speaker 2: Now we can throw that pass and then you're going, Okay, who's their deep receiver and they don't have one, And it goes back to it wasn't a great offense. And Drake May what he did during the regular season. I still would look at him as the MVP because of what he did during the regular season. And that's what the vote is. You know, they tabulate that before the postseason starts. He did not have a good postseason at all. Sacked fumbles, did not play well at all, but they somehow got to this point. Give credit to Vrabel, he did a wonderful job. He's your coach of the year. But man, oh man, Mike McDonald had a game plan. Yeah, seton.

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Speaker 9: I do.

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Speaker 7: I love the Sam Donald redemption story. And it's unfortunate that Drake May had a terrible postseason but really played a terrible game. And I do think it's funny that Drake May threw for more touchdown passes last night than Sam Donald. And Sam Donald resurrected his career off of this run. And Drake May's got to go back to the drawing board. Well, it's like things that don't add up when you look at them on paper.

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Speaker 2: Got to get some weapons. Yeah, gotta get some weapons. And I thought that they were going to be able to run the football. I really did. And then all of a sudden, Drake may sprinkles in some passes and that's all you want.

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Speaker 3: Keep the defense honest, and they couldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: That defense basically said, we don't care what you're doing. We're coming after you every single play. Yeah, pony, I.

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Speaker 8: Know the first three quarters were rough, but there was a point in the fourth quarter they were down the Patriots down nineteen to seven. They had the ball with ten minutes and forty seconds to go. They go on a seven play, forty yard drive. They're across the fifty. It's second and three, and they took that shot downfield that was intercepted. I mean, there's a lot of time left. I think that interception there was eight forty nine on the clock. If they somehow get that to nineteen fourteen, the pressure changes quickly.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering and I kept thinking I'd be passing on first down. I would be passing on the non passing downs because I just have to switch this up. And Josh McDaniels did not have a good night calling plays. It just felt like Seattle kind of figured out there was no rhythm with New England, and you're and you know, Tariko and Collins were at one point thought that the Patriots were going to get some rhythm. Then I think they had a turnover right after that. You were just waiting for something where you'd go, I mean their drive would be like seven plays forty yards. That would be a sustained drive for New England. And you know, meanwhile, Kenneth Walker, you know those chunk plays played great, but it still comes down to no turnovers, playing great defense and making them make mistakes.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Tom, I was wondering at halftime, as good as a coach as Mike Rabel is or appears to be, what do you do at halftime when a team's got that good the defense? You know, you always say, like you got to make the necessary adjustments. Is there anything he really could have said or done that would have significantly changed what they did in the second half.

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Speaker 2: I would have said, we're down nine to nothing. All we need to do is go out there, we get the ball, start second a second half. Let's let's go down there and score touchdown, and worst we get a field goal. Now we're down six let's let's put the pressure on them. But I just kept waiting for some kind of rhythm there and it never happened. It just felt like they were like, I don't know what are we doing. I don't know, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: I don't know? Hey, we better block that side of the line.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that second half opening drive I think is just another three and out. Yeah, that was crucially important to at least move the chains get a first down.

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Speaker 2: Drew Brees smelling Hall of Famer and joining us on behalf of a stretch Zone, a brand new research study that we'll talk to him about. How important was first ballot to you?

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Speaker 12: Uh, you know what, I think, all of this is still pretty surreal. You know.

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Speaker 13: I don't think as a kid you necessarily sit there and think about, you know, Hall of Fame. I think at that point you're just thinking, I just want to play this sport for as long as I can. I love playing it, I love being a part of the team. Maybe I can play in college someday, Maybe I can play in the NFL someday. And then all of a sudden, you play twenty years and the numbers add up to the point where you know, people think it justifies you being a first ballot Hall of Famer. So I mean, honestly, I just have such such a respect and a reverence for the game and for the opportunity to play it for so long and try to make my mark on the game and be it better than when I found it.

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Speaker 2: But you defied the odds because if I said, hey, he's not six four, not six or five in an era where everybody had to be six fours in college, you're six feet and you're not a runner. Like it doesn't add up, Like how did you beat the odds to be able to throw for sixty thousand yards?

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Speaker 12: Well, if you.

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Speaker 13: Recall, you had me on your show about what ten years ago at the Super Bowl, and I think we went through my draft reading where it did say I was a runner.

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Speaker 12: It was saying I would run through people. I didn't know how to make a miss.

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Speaker 3: A tough it' said a tough runner, A tough runner.

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Speaker 14: That was.

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Speaker 13: That was you know, twenty pounds ago, you know, and I was playing in the Big ten. Had to bulk up, you know. You know, honestly, I take pride in that. I take pride in being you know, call it a six foot quarterback. You know, maybe being a little bit undersized. I always felt like I had something to prove. I had chip on my shoulder. I mean, I don't know what it's like to be six'. Five you, know do those guys have better? Vision do they can they see up over the line of, scrimmage and you, know it's a whole new world up, THERE i bet in that.

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Speaker 12: STRATOSPHERE i, MEAN i.

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Speaker 13: Always felt, like, honestly this is the Way i've always described it, is if you close your, eyes so you take away your visual, sense all of a, sudden your sense of hearing is, heightened and your sense of smell and just sense of awareness and feeling of what's around. You that's probably the best way to describe maybe playing the quarterback position in the pocket amongst a world of, giants where at times maybe you can't necessarily see exactly where you're throwing the, football but you can feel what's around, you and you can sense the depth of the linebacker and then the safety over the, top and you know that that receiver is going to be rolling that incut in at fifteen yards and that your feet are telling you it's time to turn the ball, loose, right and you let it go and you just lay it to.

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Speaker 12: That spot and then it's like poetry in.

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Speaker 13: Motion it hits them in the hands and it's you, know first, down and then you're on to the next play to do it.

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Speaker 12: Again SO i.

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Speaker 13: Can't tell you how many times that was playing the quarterback position where you wouldn't necessarily always see, it but it didn't mean that you couldn't feel it or that you couldn't visualize.

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Speaker 2: It let me put you In Drake may's position On sunday and what would you have done differently as far as protections or philosophy of when you get the ball, Out, like you, know what are you doing differently when you see What seattle's?

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Speaker 13: Doing, Well first, off that defense was as good as there was in this. League you, know all year long That seattle. Defense they could rush the. Passer they had a ton of skill on the back end as. WELL i can't give enough credit To mike McDonald and kind of just what he built with that system and with that.

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Speaker 12: Team at the end of the.

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Speaker 13: Day when you're playing a pass rush like, that there is a premium to finding ways to get the ball, out just trying to get the ball on the perimeter to guys where it's one on, one maybe they have a chance to just get your three four. YARDS i think you just have to be okay with the fact that you may not get a ton of explosive plays because you're not going to have the chance to hold the ball very. Long then you mix in a play you got to run the ball, effectively you got to get on the, perimeter and then you kind of pick and choose your slots to you, know throw in a play action to try to push the ball down the. Field but you have to be okay with more of a ball. Control there's a premium on not having negative, plays not giving up sacks because you get a third and long against that, defense like you're, done you, know and so play the field position battle a little. Bit look early, on your defense was playing really well. Too they were Holding seattle to a bunch of field, goals so you were keeping the game. Close but they just needed to cash in a few more times and just not give up so many negative.

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Speaker 2: Plays i'm talking to first Ballot hall Of fame Or Drew. Brees when were you told you guys were going to open up Your Super bowl the second half with an on side?

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Speaker 13: Kick so So Sean payton had nicknamed that play. Ambush And i'm literally the first meeting of because it was you, know two weekly time from you, KNOW Nfc championship to a Super. Bowl literally the first, meeting we come in and it's, like, hey here's the practice, schedule blah blah, blah and, oh by the, way.

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Speaker 12: We have this on side. Kick it's called.

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Speaker 13: Ambush it's not a matter of if we're going to call, it but, when so get ready and it has to.

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Speaker 2: Work so it wasn't, Scored it wasn't score. Dependent you're opening up the second, Half.

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Speaker 12: Yeah it.

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Speaker 13: Was it was all look and and this is this is part of the greatness Of Sean. Payton it's just the instincts and just feeling the flow of the game and the momentum and just knowing.

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Speaker 12: The right time to call.

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Speaker 13: It and again he, said it wasn't a matter of, if it was, When like when are we going to do? This we're going to call. It and if you recall the way that game started with The, colts you, know they came right out scored on their first two. Possessions they were up ten, zero and and then we calmed it down a little bit in the second. Quarter we got a field goal to field goals before, half and So sean felt, like, okay we now have the. Momentum we're kicking off in the second. Half they're kind of resetting themselves on the other side because we, had you, know staged a little bit of this. Comeback so he's, like this is this is when they'll never expect. It so much of it onside kick is you do it when nobody thinks you're going to do it right in the Super, bowl biggest, stage coming on a, halftime you have all the, momentum you, know and it was the perfect time to do, it.

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Speaker 3: And it could have gone. Wrong it could have gone really. Wrong but again again.

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Speaker 13: A great sign of leadership is instilling confidence right and belief in your team and making it feel like it's. WORKED i, mean he told us again very first, meeting we are going to call this and it has to.

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Speaker 12: Work it will.

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Speaker 2: Work but you knew going out the start of the second half that ambush is.

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Speaker 13: On well and here's a great thing, too is he intentionally kicked the ball the direction he kicked, it knowing that Here Thomas morstead is going to kick this thing and it needs to happen at our sideline, Right like again you're thinking about the human nature element of all of a sudden there's a scrum on the ground for the, ball and all the officials are over there prying bodies, away trying to see who has the ball and if they're on The saints, sideline and everybody's Going Saints, Paul.

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Speaker 12: Saints, Paul Saints. Paul you, know if.

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Speaker 13: There's any type of you, know a, question it's, hey it's white, ball, right as opposed to that happens on the opposing sideline and they're just getting it from the other.

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Speaker 12: Side, maybe you, know the results.

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Speaker 2: Different we speaking of results, Different we talked To Jason garrett last hour and he said that he was there In miami and having. Dinner you and your wife thought that you were going to be going. There WHAT i didn't understand, Is, okay you had a shoulder, injury but they decided On Dante, culpepper who also had a damaged, knee and they kind of bet on his knee over your.

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Speaker 13: Shoulder, yeah you, KNOW i remember everything about that trip To. Miami, again like on, paper you, Know i'm coming off of the should the major shoulder. Injury not sure If i'm ever gonna play football, again but, hopeful and it's The New Orleans saints and The Miami. Dolphins on, paper this was the easiest decision in the. World it's The Miami dolphins all the. Way Nick saban's the head, coach has done an outstanding job of that, defense one of the best defense in the.

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Speaker 12: League Zach, Thomas Jason.

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Speaker 13: Taylor like they had finished that last season the previous, season winning seven in a. Row really the only question mark for the team was. Quarterback they had skilled position. Guys Jason garrett was the quarterback, Coach Mike malarkey was THE. Oc they were running the same offensive system THAT i was coming from In San.

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Speaker 12: Diego on my.

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Speaker 13: Recruiting trip, there we're eating dinner On Wayne heizingi's yacht and he's sitting there talking about how.

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Speaker 12: Every summer we're going to go To scotland and play.

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Speaker 13: Golf mee you And. Dan i'm Like, Dan they're, like, Yeah Dan. Marino i'm, Like dan is like my mentor now you know WHAT i, Mean, like this is the greatest day. Ever you, Know stay Of, florida no state income. FACTS i, mean this is a no, brainer. Right but also on that, trip they put me through like this this rigorous you know health you know inspection basically like six hours of testing CONTRAST mri. Tube you know Where i'm in the en mar tetle literally literally for two, hours and they're trying to assess just the damage that was done to my shoulder and the chances of me being able to come back and be the. Same remember sticking these big needles in my arm to test my nerve.

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Speaker 12: ENDINGS i, mean it was. Nuts and at the end of the, Day Nick saban.

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Speaker 13: Looked me in the eye and, said you, know our doctors think you have a twenty five percent chance of ever coming back and playing. It And i'm, like, well, OKAY i know what they, say but what do you. Think you, Know he's, like you, KNOW i got to believe what the doctors are telling, me you, know but you, know we still want. You but you know It's i'm just letting you know kind of you, know what's been. Said and SO i just really didn't get the feeling that they had a ton of faith or confidence in my ability to come. Back so despite how good that visit was and how much RESPECT i had for them and the organization and, everything you, know The saints was a totally different story from the perspective Of, LOOK i, mean we know that city was, destroyed you, know But Sean payton And Mickey loomis had just this unwavering belief in me to be their guy and to be a leader of that. Organization it was going to be this collaboration AND i was gonna have so much. Input they were building this thing around, Me and it was just that moment WHERE i felt LIKE i had a chance to be a part of something so much greater than. Football it felt like it Was god's calling in my life to be, there and so that's why we chosen.

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Speaker 3: Worlds did The saints not have AN mri? Machine they.

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Speaker 2: Didn't they didn't put you through the same test that The dolphins apparently.

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Speaker 12: Not it was down.

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Speaker 13: You, KNOW i think it was a little bit maybe it was, like you, know ignorance is. Bliss it was, like we don't want to. Know we would rather not look at the. Images we're just, gonna you, know so maintain a ton of faith and hope that you're going to Be, okay.

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Speaker 9: OH i don't. Know it's like about every day right. NOW i know. That but we got it, Young we. Didn't we didn't understand it till. Later you.

00:28:07
Speaker 14: Know it's one of those things that your parents tell you that you kind of don't. Get you kind of make fun. Of what is that everybody's got better than?

00:28:13
Speaker 13: Us?

00:28:13
Speaker 14: Dad it's, cold we're. Complaining whenever we. Complain that's what we heard.

00:28:19
Speaker 3: You take this, job let, me let me stay With baltimore for a.

00:28:23
Speaker 2: Moment how do you not take it personally when the franchise doesn't want you?

00:28:28
Speaker 3: Anymore, YEAH i.

00:28:30
Speaker 9: Don't you do take it?

00:28:31
Speaker 14: Personally, REALLY i MEAN i can't say that you. Don't everything is. PERSONAL i mean.

00:28:37
Speaker 9: Life is.

00:28:37
Speaker 14: Personal you, know you pour your heart into what you do every single.

00:28:43
Speaker 9: Day it's meaningful and it.

00:28:44
Speaker 14: Matters AND i know that everybody that we were with, there who we love In baltimore all those, years would say the same thing about what they did or about us and everything like. That so, yeah you do take it personal in a sense because it's a very personal.

00:28:57
Speaker 9: Thing BUT i wasn't offended by.

00:28:59
Speaker 14: It it Didn't it didn't make me, mad didn't make me.

00:29:03
Speaker 9: Bitter it just was.

00:29:05
Speaker 14: Disappointing but by the same, time it's, like you know, what there's a plan for. Life there's a purpose in. Life AND i believe IN i believe in our Almighty, creator AND i believe.

00:29:14
Speaker 9: This there's a reason that things. Happen and when when? When? When that? When when The.

00:29:18
Speaker 14: Lord above says, go it's time to. Go and that's HOW i look at. It and he said go To New york and here where we are so very excited about that This we're right where we are supposed to be at this particular point in. Time it's exactly the place we're supposed to, be and that's What i'm excited.

00:29:33
Speaker 2: About Mike rabel put a lot of pressure on coaches taking over. Teams he turns the team around and goes to The Super. Bowl uh can it? BE i, MEAN i KNOW i was wondering about. That you, know you don't get to ease into this, Job, John.

00:29:51
Speaker 9: No, no it's.

00:29:51
Speaker 14: Okay, hey you welcome the challenge if it's a national football you, know but not for.

00:29:56
Speaker 9: Long uh that it's time you.

00:29:58
Speaker 14: Got it's time to produce day one. One and our players expect, that our coaches expect. That we expect to come out of the. Gates we're gonna come out of The we're gonna come out of the corner. SWINGING i, mean that's what we're gonna. DO i remember The Hearns hagler.

00:30:11
Speaker 2: Fight, yeah When herds surprised everybody and just went all in Against.

00:30:15
Speaker 3: Hagler, yeah three.

00:30:17
Speaker 14: ROUND i think it was a T ko maybe BY i Think hagler won. It Maybe IF i REMEMBER i.

00:30:21
Speaker 9: WAS i Loved. HAGLER i Loved. Tagler marvin if he's out, THERE i love.

00:30:25
Speaker 14: Him But Tommy hearns is my, guy the you, know The MotorCity hit, Man Tommy hearns.

00:30:30
Speaker 9: MAN i Love Tommy. Hearns. Uh he came out, swinging so that's what we plan on.

00:30:34
Speaker 2: Doing, yeah but he got knocked, Out so you don't want to come out swinging like.

00:30:38
Speaker 9: That we'll come out. Swinging we'll be throwing, punches you. Know whatever happens. Happens but the chips, flying it's. Good.

00:30:45
Speaker 3: Uh tougher DIVISION Afc north OR Nfc.

00:30:49
Speaker 14: East, uh THE Ac north has been the tougher, division you know over the last eighteen. YEARS i would say. THAT i MEAN i was in. IT i know it was tougher going forward now in the early in the early two, thousands it was THE nf it was THE Nfc.

00:31:05
Speaker 9: EAST i was in. It then you know where it's. At it's wherever you're.

00:31:09
Speaker 3: At that's the toughest divisions wherever you.

00:31:12
Speaker 14: Live and we'll be living in THE Nfc east and it's a tough. DIVISION i, mean you got The eagles who have been doing what they do for the last number of. Years it's Like Michigan Ohio. State back in the day When Bo shimmicker took over with my, dad you had to Beat Ohio state if you were going to be great At, michigan and that's what they did the very first. Year and then The, cowboys The, cowboys The. Commanders it's just great, rivalries incredible, stadiums huge fan, bases nothing more to. You there's no more exciting division than THE Nfc east and The New York Football. Giants you know we're in it, Too so we planned to make a. Statement we planned to be. There we planned to show up for every single, Game, dan right on.

00:31:50
Speaker 2: Time what was it about The giants job that attracted you the?

00:31:55
Speaker 14: MOST i think probably IF i was being honest about the. Players the players are really important in. Football you gotta have, players great players as a players. Game it always has been a player's. Game it always will be a player's. Game great coaches have taught me that over the.

00:32:14
Speaker 9: Years, so but.

00:32:15
Speaker 2: Having that franchise, quarterback how important was that? That if you're you're surveying the situation, here of all the, openings how important was it that you Had Jackson.

00:32:25
Speaker 9: Dark, yeah it's start with the.

00:32:26
Speaker 14: QUARTERBACK i mean the players started with the. Quarterback you build a team around the. Quarterback THAT i looked at, that, like the first THING i did was look at all the. Quarterbacks and there are some good quarterbacks on these. Teams But jackson was the guy that really excited me WHEN i saw him now even more so being around him every. Day we were in, here we were in here last. Night he was hanging, out he's working. OUT i think he worked out at nine. O'clock SO i saw him around the building and talk some ball with.

00:32:48
Speaker 9: Him so is.

00:32:48
Speaker 2: Great what's the best piece of coaching? Advice your dad gave.

00:32:52
Speaker 14: You the best piece of a coaching Advice our dad gave. Us he, said you know what he. Said he, said you gotta work really. Hard you gotta work harder than everybody. Else he, goes BECAUSE i know you two, guys and you're really not that. Smart you're probably not gonna smart, anybody so you got to outwork.

00:33:09
Speaker 9: People that's a direct. Quote that's exactly what he.

00:33:11
Speaker 2: Said he, said you And jim were not, smart so you got out work who's smarter between you.

00:33:19
Speaker 14: Two jim's the smartest GUY i. Know jim's the Smartest he's the smartest coach in the. League total credit To jim for smart uh street, smart emotional, smarts knows how to knows how to make, you knows how to make a, statement make people feel a certain.

00:33:35
Speaker 9: Way funny, Dude, yeah you know.

00:33:37
Speaker 3: Him what do you do better than? HIM i?

00:33:41
Speaker 12: Do?

00:33:41
Speaker 14: UH i beat him in golf the last time we, played but that was like ten years. Ago we refuse to play each. Other we REFUSE i mean, golf we's got time for. It but what DO i do better Than? JIM i look younger Than?

00:33:54
Speaker 9: Jim right? Now can we all agree on? That neither one of us are that. Young BUT i look younger than.

00:33:59
Speaker 3: Him, okay how?

00:34:01
Speaker 9: Much what's the?

00:34:02
Speaker 3: Age what's the age?

00:34:04
Speaker 9: Difference i'm fifteen months. Older.

00:34:07
Speaker 3: Okay And i'm sure you're reminding of.

00:34:09
Speaker 9: That, see you would have never guessed, that, Right, pat you would have. Guessed.

00:34:13
Speaker 2: No, no just don't color your. Hair, okay, no you can. See, No i'm just, saying just don't do. That, yeah you look you you. Are you are very you look very. Distinguished you're a. Gentleman you, know you look very wise.

00:34:32
Speaker 12: But.

00:34:32
Speaker 2: Distinguished that's the gray hair that when you have gray, hair You're you're, wise you're.

00:34:36
Speaker 3: DISTINGUISHED i think it comes along with.

00:34:39
Speaker 14: THAT i like the lumberjack shirt you're wearing. Too it's, cozy it's buy your. Fireplace in the. Background who's got a better than?

00:34:46
Speaker 3: You damn, nobody, no. Nobody what you do for a?

00:34:51
Speaker 9: Living one talking about crotch? Games stop, EVER i want that.

00:34:59
Speaker 15: Job when did you reach out To mike. McDonald i reached out to him after the, Game right after the. GAME i started texting him right. AWAY i haven't able to get him on the phone, yet BUT i. WILL i Will jay.

00:35:11
Speaker 14: Either they're, busy they've got parades to, do they got chows to.

00:35:15
Speaker 13: Do.

00:35:15
Speaker 3: There, wait, wait he hasn't gotten back to you.

00:35:18
Speaker 1: Yet he.

00:35:19
Speaker 9: Hadn't he. Didn't. Wow you know he's been. Busy he's been, busy but he's he's texted. Back he texted back right.

00:35:25
Speaker 2: Away do you did you realize that he like he was capable of doing this at a young age and calling the defensive plays in The Super bowl as a head.

00:35:36
Speaker 14: Coach, WELL i MEAN i hired him as a defensive coordinator and the defensive play.

00:35:40
Speaker 9: Caller so that was that's always the. Plan you, know you want you.

00:35:42
Speaker 14: WANT i want my defensive coordinator calling defenses in The Super. Bowl that's definitely the. Goal and, uh there WERE i never had any doubt About. Mike others. DID i, didn't And mike, didn't you. Know And mike Is, Uh mike is, confident, smart just a good, person hard.

00:35:59
Speaker 9: Worker he he's the.

00:36:00
Speaker 14: Guy he's a hard worker and he, smart he's got he's got two for two going. There so uh and look look what. HAPPENED i, Mean i'm just so couldn't be more proud of. Him and Also Jay, harbaugh our nephew's a special teams. Coordinator they've won games on special, teams multiple games because of special teams and because of What jay's. Done so those, GUYS i, mean there's other. Guys Leslie frasier's on that staff left For leslie is such a great. Leader he's Helping. Mike so, yeah that's an amazing job they've.

00:36:25
Speaker 2: Done the kicker and the, PUNTER i, mean what a what a weapon For. Seattle when you talk about a total team effort to win A Super, bowl they had.

00:36:35
Speaker 3: It they had.

00:36:36
Speaker 13: It.

00:36:36
Speaker 14: Unbelievable the trade for the returner who's also a receiver at in this mid season there and people are like scratching their head about that, trade and look at he made a difference for.

00:36:45
Speaker 2: Him when's the last time you talked to your quarterback and your former?

00:36:49
Speaker 3: Quarterback uh In. Baltimore.

00:36:52
Speaker 14: Uh you know, what we've texted a number of. Times we haven't talked on the, phone you, know just having a chance to do. That BUT i haven't talked really anybody on the. PHONE i had like over twenty five hundred, texts which is. Crazy, No i'm down under, Three i'm down under four. HUNDRED i haven't cracked getting back to. People but it's been been. Amazing but now we. Texted great love For, lamar really everybody there a great love for.

00:37:17
Speaker 2: Him when you were first let, GO i had somebody say right away that it'll be between the giants and the falcons for, you that those were the two jobs that you'd be interested.

00:37:28
Speaker 3: In was that fair?

00:37:30
Speaker 9: ACCURATE i was interested in both those, jobs but not just those.

00:37:34
Speaker 14: Two there was there were there WERE i talked to, everybody and you really, Realize, dan when you talk to people in this, circumstance which you, KNOW i don't necessarily, recommend but but it was really incredible to talk to the people at every, organization the, owners the, GM's uh team, presidents all that they.

00:37:52
Speaker 9: Are there's so many great people in this. League you go to the owners, meeting.

00:37:55
Speaker 14: You've been, there and you get into that group that that.

00:37:58
Speaker 9: Football is a, huge, huge you know, stage but it's a small. Circle and you get in that group and you and you realize, that you, know we all have the same. Things we're all fighting the same, fights we're all fighting the same, battles were all the same. Concerns we're just trying to do our.

00:38:11
Speaker 14: Best, families the kids are running around and you and you feel that kind of sense OF i don't, know just a shared understanding for what you. Do and then you talk to them about their job and you realize how important it is to them what they're trying to, accomplish and you you try to visualize yourself in that job with, Them and, REALLY i could visualize myself in every one of those, jobs with every one of the GROUPS i talked. To you really can do that because there's so many good people and every job in this league is.

00:38:40
Speaker 3: Amazing what'd you do with Your ravens? GEAR i kept the.

00:38:44
Speaker 9: LITTLE i kept a couple of, things some of the nicer. Stuff.

00:38:47
Speaker 14: YEAH i kept a couple a couple uh uh quarter. Zips uh kept a couple of championship. Hats what are you going to do with?

00:38:55
Speaker 3: Them?

00:38:56
Speaker 14: Well, uh. SOMEDAY i you, KNOW i got a good a good hoodie THAT i really. LIKED i kept that an insulated hand. POCKET i don't. KNOW i, mean we'll give me really good. Stuff all the other STUFF i, TOSSED i MEAN i didn't TOSS i gave it to friends And. Goodwill goodwill made it killing Good rod. Guy we stopped accepting our stuff at one. Point we're not not raven. Stuff but they took all The raven, stuff but some of the other. Stuff they're, like we've had, it we have, enough we don't want any.

00:39:24
Speaker 3: More, congrats good luck. Man.

00:39:29
Speaker 2: Thanks yeah's let's see if you can pull off Of Mike rabel there with the g.

00:39:33
Speaker 3: MEN i appreciate.

00:39:34
Speaker 14: That, dan great ce as, always you're the. Best you're. Awesome we did. It we did a. Show remember In, minnesota we did a. Show.

00:39:41
Speaker 2: Cola you did great with that Super bowl coverage because you know you go in there and you're, like, ah just tell me what to do And i'll answer the.

00:39:50
Speaker 3: Questions when you.

00:39:51
Speaker 2: Asked but we were outside there for a little while In, minnesota and we spent you, know we spent some quality time together.

00:39:58
Speaker 14: There we did we we we we we had that we didn't huddle close together to stay, warm but.

00:40:04
Speaker 9: We could. Have it was, cold, Yes but you were a great. Teacher you were a great, teacher a great. Leader you were great at what you. Do i'm just an honored to be on the show with, you. MAN i appreciate.

00:40:13
Speaker 3: It thank, you. Buddy who was it better than we?

00:40:15
Speaker 9: Do, no.

00:40:19
Speaker 3: Thank, you. Coach That's John harbal