Mailbag Episode #209: WarGames Match Predictions, Xavier Woods Heel Turn, Women's US Title

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<v Speaker 4>let's start. Let's start with a warpath a patron, he says,
<v Speaker 4>not sure. You watch the whole segment on Raw with
<v Speaker 4>the ladies setting up the Survivors series Wargames match. Jade
<v Speaker 4>Cargo is not the only one wearing high heel footwear.
<v Speaker 4>Six of the ten ladies in the ring were wearing
<v Speaker 4>high heel shoes, and Beianca had stripper boots with the
<v Speaker 4>very high and thin heels, and that did not seem
<v Speaker 4>to stop them all from hitting each other and Team
<v Speaker 4>Rihea throwing all the Live member team members of Live
<v Speaker 4>out of the ring. This included Jade removing Raquel from
<v Speaker 4>the ring. I'm also growing tired of the Jade Beyonca team.
<v Speaker 4>Their mean girl gimmick is annoying. I like their in
<v Speaker 4>ring work. I think that they work well together. Jade
<v Speaker 4>has improved, not leaps and bounds, but she has improved
<v Speaker 4>in the ring. Both ladies are being held back. Jade
<v Speaker 4>needs to have some meaningful singles matches to improve for further,
<v Speaker 4>true improve for further, and Beyonca needs to challenge for
<v Speaker 4>some titles. Is not ready for that yet. Like you said,
<v Speaker 4>sink or swim some with some singles matches. I believe
<v Speaker 4>she will meet that challenge. So first, about the heels.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I am just simply so focused on Jade and
<v Speaker 4>her I'm so tired of her that I singled her out.
<v Speaker 4>So that is fair, That's a fair criticism warpath. I
<v Speaker 4>appreciate that. It just also fits so much. It's very
<v Speaker 4>apropos with how Jade has gone thus far though, So
<v Speaker 4>what's probably why I singled her out with the with
<v Speaker 4>the heels, and you know, Bianca, as I went back,
<v Speaker 4>I looked to you, you're right. I mean, I don't
<v Speaker 4>understand why heels are worn, especially if you're in competition.
<v Speaker 4>I understand that you can take minimal you do minimal
<v Speaker 4>maneuvers in those heels, but it's still a risk you
<v Speaker 4>could roll your ankle easily. It just it doesn't make
<v Speaker 4>a lot of sense. Also, if you're a competitor, an
<v Speaker 4>athlete and you're in the ring and you're wearing fashion
<v Speaker 4>show attire, it doesn't make any sense. But so that's fair.
<v Speaker 4>Now you're growing tired of three Jade Beyonca team. I
<v Speaker 4>don't need to rehash this one hundred times I will,
<v Speaker 4>so I won't, but I will comment on your assessment
<v Speaker 4>that Jade has improved, agreed, But she's also she improved
<v Speaker 4>and then she just plateaued. It's like she just like
<v Speaker 4>did a little bit of improvement and then she just
<v Speaker 4>kind of has stayed the way she is, which is
<v Speaker 4>not to say she should, you know, go back to
<v Speaker 4>NXT or anything. I just she feels like she's main
<v Speaker 4>roster at least when you look at her. But we
<v Speaker 4>haven't yet. Have we seen a singles match from Jade yet,
<v Speaker 4>or if we have, has it been more than two
<v Speaker 4>minutes without being interrupted or you know, having a no
<v Speaker 4>contest or something like that. I don't know if we have.
<v Speaker 4>Jade Cargill has been with the company nearly what two years,
<v Speaker 4>and she has yet to have a singles match. Let
<v Speaker 4>me actually see when did Jade Cargill sign with WWE.
<v Speaker 4>Let me get the date of this here. So September
<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty three she signed, all right, so a
<v Speaker 4>little over a year. It feels like it's been longer.
<v Speaker 4>So she's a little over you know, a year in change.
<v Speaker 4>And we have yet to see her in a massive
<v Speaker 4>singles and it really not even massive, just some kind
<v Speaker 4>of significant singles match singles program. They stuck her with Bianca,
<v Speaker 4>knowing the benefits of doing that, at least to her.
<v Speaker 4>And it's it's sink or swim time. There's no other
<v Speaker 4>way to put it, no other way to put it,
<v Speaker 4>sink or swim. Let's go I'm tired of Bianca being buried.
<v Speaker 4>And that's not to say I want Bianca back with
<v Speaker 4>her mean girl skipping to the ring gimmick. So I
<v Speaker 4>want to clarify that as much as I prop up
<v Speaker 4>Bianca on the show, and I do, and I'm a
<v Speaker 4>massive fan of hers and just in awe of how
<v Speaker 4>good she is and smooth she is in the ring,
<v Speaker 4>and her promos are often good. Sometimes they're they're a
<v Speaker 4>little hokey, but a lot of times they're good, sometimes
<v Speaker 4>very good. I will want to see her as a heel.
<v Speaker 4>I would love to see Bianca as a stand by
<v Speaker 4>that I was pushing for it before she teamed with Jade,
<v Speaker 4>and I stand by it. I still want Pianca as
<v Speaker 4>a heel. I don't think they'll do it right away,
<v Speaker 4>but I do want to see it.
<v Speaker 3>All right.
<v Speaker 4>I fear that WWE will just keep doing the same
<v Speaker 4>old thing with the women, create tag teams and factions
<v Speaker 4>and say how many women we put out every week.
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of wasted talent in the women's division.
<v Speaker 4>That is a shame, because there's a ton of great
<v Speaker 4>talent there. Glad to see Rio Ripley back sooner than expected.
<v Speaker 4>And hope to see Charlotte Flair back soon. Thanks Warpath,
<v Speaker 4>I do too. I've stopped predicting Charlotte returning. I mean
<v Speaker 4>I really believe, and I say this half jokingly, did
<v Speaker 4>they actually amputate Charlotte's leg and she has to learn
<v Speaker 4>how to wrestle with like a prosthetic? Is that what
<v Speaker 4>she is? That what's taking her so long? Like she
<v Speaker 4>secretly had her leg amputated and they stuck a prosthetic on.
<v Speaker 4>They're like, yeah, I don't know if you're ever gonna
<v Speaker 4>be able to perform again, And she's like, watch me,
<v Speaker 4>And that's what's taking so long.
<v Speaker 5>You know.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what deal is. Maybe they don't have
<v Speaker 4>creative for her. Maybe they're still is lingering pain. I
<v Speaker 4>don't know, but it looked I mean seriously, like two
<v Speaker 4>weeks after her surgery, she was doing squats. That was
<v Speaker 4>like a year ago.
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm done predicting Charlotte Feller returning. I'm also embarrassing
<v Speaker 4>myself every single time I think she's going to so
<v Speaker 4>hell with it. I don't know when she's coming back,
<v Speaker 4>but she should. And yeah, I have concerned about the
<v Speaker 4>women's division as a whole. I just have default concern
<v Speaker 4>because of how Yeah, sure they may be adding titles.
<v Speaker 4>The thing is they're doing like superficial things to make
<v Speaker 4>it look like they are really honing in on the
<v Speaker 4>women's division. They're adding a new title. They the last
<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks they had the women's main event, Ron' SmackDown.
<v Speaker 4>And that's fine, but I think it's a lot of
<v Speaker 4>As I said before, it's a lot of optics. It's
<v Speaker 4>a lot of Hey, we introduced a new US title.
<v Speaker 4>Here's our answer to criticisms that we aren't focusing on
<v Speaker 4>the women's division at the same time by main eventing
<v Speaker 4>ron SmackDown. The answer is like, no, we know why
<v Speaker 4>you're doing that, and it's very temporary, and until you
<v Speaker 4>show any kind of consistency, we don't believe you that
<v Speaker 4>you're actually going to focus on the women's division in
<v Speaker 4>any kind of real, meaningful, significant way. It's consistency. And
<v Speaker 4>it's not to say they're shoving the women's division aside,
<v Speaker 4>or that they should have exact equal time that the
<v Speaker 4>men do. I actually don't believe that they should.
<v Speaker 3>I should.
<v Speaker 4>To me, it should be who is the most compelling,
<v Speaker 4>who has, who's drawing the highest ratings, who's connecting with
<v Speaker 4>the crowd. Those are the people that should be on TV.
<v Speaker 4>Regardless of if you're male or female. I don't care.
<v Speaker 4>It should be who is who's the most successful. Now,
<v Speaker 4>that's not to say you shouldn't give the women a chance.
<v Speaker 4>The idea that you shouldn't give women an opportunity consistently
<v Speaker 4>to show that they can actually be compelling and that creative.
<v Speaker 4>Should actually spend a lot of time thinking about who
<v Speaker 4>could be the next you know, Becky Lynch, so to speak,
<v Speaker 4>or who could reach that level of success. So behind
<v Speaker 4>the scenes, Triple H and company should really have a
<v Speaker 4>team set aside for the women's division and maybe do
<v Speaker 4>some things off camera that they see and have people
<v Speaker 4>cut promos or do some stuff in NXT or wherever
<v Speaker 4>and see who may be able to be elevated in
<v Speaker 4>the women's division, not necessarily on camera if they're that
<v Speaker 4>worried about taking a risk there, I don't know. I
<v Speaker 4>mean the idea that though they are not getting equal
<v Speaker 4>time is true. But to me, equal time doesn't mean
<v Speaker 4>fifty to fifty. It should mean based on merit, who
<v Speaker 4>should be there. And yeah, there are a lot of
<v Speaker 4>women that are not getting time that I think they should.
<v Speaker 4>But it should be who is the best and that's
<v Speaker 4>who gets on camera. That's it. Now, again, you need
<v Speaker 4>to build new stars, but you also need to have
<v Speaker 4>a leap of faith. If you're WWE, Yes, you need
<v Speaker 4>to put the stars on TV. They're the ones that
<v Speaker 4>draw the ratings, as I just said, But you also
<v Speaker 4>need to at the same time develop new stars, which
<v Speaker 4>doesn't draw ratings. So that's the other side of the coin,
<v Speaker 4>is okay, yeah, sure, But then how do you grow
<v Speaker 4>new talent. You have to grow new talent by putting
<v Speaker 4>new stars on TV, hoping that the crowd reacts to
<v Speaker 4>them and connects with them. So it's not an easy process.
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying this is easy. I'm not saying I
<v Speaker 4>have a some kind of magical formula. It's not a
<v Speaker 4>magical formula. It's simply a just a consistent focus on
<v Speaker 4>the women's division that we have not seen, or at
<v Speaker 4>least it hasn't manifested itself in the last few years,
<v Speaker 4>especially in the tag team division. It's just been for
<v Speaker 4>the most part, an embarrassment for the women. How many
<v Speaker 4>years have we gone with the Women's I shouldn't say years.
<v Speaker 4>I would say if someone could calculate the number of
<v Speaker 4>months that we had a tag team that were there
<v Speaker 4>were the champions. Right, you had a women's tag team
<v Speaker 4>a title. We have one team that was unopposed in
<v Speaker 4>the division. Right, how many times did you have that
<v Speaker 4>tag team that were the tag team champions in a
<v Speaker 4>division that actually had no other competition, so they're the
<v Speaker 4>champions by default. And then WWE around wrestle Mania time
<v Speaker 4>would throw some haphazard teams together that weren't really tag teams.
<v Speaker 4>There were just a bunch of women that had nothing
<v Speaker 4>else going on for WrestleMania, so they stuck them together
<v Speaker 4>to make them look like tag teams, and then poof,
<v Speaker 4>like just like magic, just like clockwork. After WrestleMania, they
<v Speaker 4>all disappeared, and there's like two tag teams left that
<v Speaker 4>are actually tag teams. So I have a lot to
<v Speaker 4>say about the women's division because I have a lot
<v Speaker 4>of concerns about it. Not the talent level necessarily, although
<v Speaker 4>that's always something you can improve, there's never you're never
<v Speaker 4>at a talent level where you're like, oh, okay, we're
<v Speaker 4>good for the next ten years and it's never going
<v Speaker 4>to happen, but it's the consistent focus on the women's
<v Speaker 4>division that has been an issue, and their championships have
<v Speaker 4>been an issue because of how many times they're just forgotten, ignored,
<v Speaker 4>whatever the case, seemingly forgotten. Thanks Warpath, Let's go to Frank.
<v Speaker 4>Frank says, I was wondering, has there ever been a
<v Speaker 4>champion that was that had a heel turn, face turn
<v Speaker 4>and still held the title? I think Roman should unsmack down.
<v Speaker 4>At the end of the show call Seth, they say
<v Speaker 4>we need talk. I need to see you on raw.
<v Speaker 4>What are you feelings about the Hardcore Championship next time? Okay, Frank, So,
<v Speaker 4>has there ever been a heel turn, face turn, heel
<v Speaker 4>turn and still hold the title? It's a good question.
<v Speaker 4>It's a good question, Frank. I'm trying to think of
<v Speaker 4>somebody that has held the title turned heel back to babyface,
<v Speaker 4>or even just turned once and still held the title,
<v Speaker 4>because usually the turn indicates that there's a title change
<v Speaker 4>in some form or fashion. That is a good question.
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think if there is somebody, off the
<v Speaker 4>top of my head that has held the title turned heel.
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking of Stone Cold see of Bustin in two
<v Speaker 4>thousand and one, but he turned heel at WrestleMania to
<v Speaker 4>win the championship and then lost it and turned back
<v Speaker 4>baby Face. So there you go. That doesn't work. I'm
<v Speaker 4>trying to think. Uh, I'm sure maybe Randy Orton had
<v Speaker 4>a run in there. Good question, Frank, as far as
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I honestly, off the top of my head
<v Speaker 4>don't know. Oh, because title changes and turns are often
<v Speaker 4>mutual exclusive like when one happens, the other happens. You know, well,
<v Speaker 4>when you're in a title situation. Anyway, Hardcore Championship. I
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed it while it lasted in the nineties, in early
<v Speaker 4>two thousands. I know they try to rebirth it with
<v Speaker 4>the twenty four to seven title that Mick Foley introduced,
<v Speaker 4>and I really didn't outside of a few weeks or
<v Speaker 4>maybe a couple of months, and they did everything they
<v Speaker 4>could with it, and they just, I mean, they beat
<v Speaker 4>it to death. They beat it into oblivion, into just
<v Speaker 4>submission where people were just asking, can we please stop this?
<v Speaker 4>And the yeah, our truth made it entertaining for a while.
<v Speaker 4>A Kiratazau made it fun for a little while, but it.
<v Speaker 4>It certainly had a very short shelf life, and they
<v Speaker 4>took the shelf life and let it like just go
<v Speaker 4>past the expiration date, get moldy on the shelf and
<v Speaker 4>then told us to eat it.
<v Speaker 2>Is what they did with it.
<v Speaker 4>Some of the skits were funny, very funny. I mean
<v Speaker 4>the way that like on an airplane's how many people
<v Speaker 4>won that championship that you had no business winning it? Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>it was just a joke of a championship was an
<v Speaker 4>entertaining title. It was an entertainment title. It was the
<v Speaker 4>comedic relief title. But the Hardcore Championship back in the day,
<v Speaker 4>I I thought it was very uh creative. I remember
<v Speaker 4>the Hardcore Championship, the Hardcore not twenty four seven title
<v Speaker 4>being fought inside of a It was almost like a
<v Speaker 4>McDonald's ballpit or something where they I remember Mosh, it
<v Speaker 4>wasn't Mosh and Thrasher of the Headbangers. I don't know.
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it might might have been facing Crash Holly
<v Speaker 4>and they were doing like Hurricane Rona's inside the ballpit
<v Speaker 4>or something ridiculous that like a McDonald's or some kind
<v Speaker 4>of kids facility. I mean, so that's one image that
<v Speaker 4>comes to mind. Raven is another guy that comes to mind,
<v Speaker 4>hold the championship bringing out the shopping card of weapons.
<v Speaker 4>Obviously mcfoley one of the pioneers of that championship. Certainly
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of good memories with the hardcore title.
<v Speaker 4>Thanks Frank. Okay, let's let's go to the other patrons
<v Speaker 4>here that emailed me. Let's go to JM and he says,
<v Speaker 4>thank you for taking my question. Do you think Xavier
<v Speaker 4>Woods turning heel on KOFE is inevitable? Now with everything
<v Speaker 4>we've seen, it'll be very disappointing if that doesn't happen,
<v Speaker 4>much like Otis and Gable. When can we finally expect
<v Speaker 4>a heal turn from Xavier? Hopefully not in ten years. Yeah,
<v Speaker 4>this asked if they don't give the payoff of Xavier
<v Speaker 4>turning heel and they're trying to be cute with something
<v Speaker 4>that doesn't need to be cute. Yeah, like Kofe's the
<v Speaker 4>one that turns, not Xavier. No, no, Xavier is the
<v Speaker 4>guy that needs to turn. No question, just full stop.
<v Speaker 4>As they say, there's nothing to discuss. Xavier turns big E.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe is there maybe he makes his wrestling return. Maybe,
<v Speaker 4>Although I have some doubts on that when does it happen. Well,
<v Speaker 4>the twenty or the ten year anniversary is like November
<v Speaker 4>twenty eighth. I think it's less of a week. It
<v Speaker 4>doesn't fall nicely with any of the shows, any of
<v Speaker 4>like the live events like SmackDown or Raw or Survivor Series.
<v Speaker 4>But they could do a ten year celebration at Survivor Series.
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's announced this Friday where there's it, or on
<v Speaker 4>Monday whatever, there's a ten year celebration of the New
<v Speaker 4>Day you know, debuting, and that's when Xavier turns. It's
<v Speaker 4>a perfect setup. There's no need to be cute on this.
<v Speaker 4>Predictability in this case is logical. It's the right choice.
<v Speaker 4>So and it really makes me wonder what they could
<v Speaker 4>push Xavier into doing beyond the Kofeie Kingston initial program
<v Speaker 4>that they'll work together for for a couple of months.
<v Speaker 4>What does Xavier do beyond that? What are the plans
<v Speaker 4>beyond that? See, that's the key. It's not just Exavier
<v Speaker 4>turning turns sake because the New Day were burned out
<v Speaker 4>about eight years ago, which is true, and that he
<v Speaker 4>can have good matches with with KOFE. Absolutely, and it
<v Speaker 4>shows a new side of Xavier that we all know
<v Speaker 4>is there. Yes, More importantly, what is the long term
<v Speaker 4>plan for Xavier? The long term plan is what they
<v Speaker 4>should be focusing on. It's not just turn and oh cool,
<v Speaker 4>here we finally did it, new Day turned. It's it's
<v Speaker 4>got to be what's the actual end goal here with
<v Speaker 4>the Xavier at least what's not his entire career, but
<v Speaker 4>what's the next six months look like for his career?
<v Speaker 4>See that that's what you do when you make a turn.
<v Speaker 4>It's not just to shock people and all people.
<v Speaker 2>It's what's the what's.
<v Speaker 4>The at least the general outline. They got to have
<v Speaker 4>one beyond beyond the initial again, beyond the initial program
<v Speaker 4>with Kofee, all right, thank you, let's go to DJ
<v Speaker 4>and he says, how about that Shinskin Nakamura is back
<v Speaker 4>on TV. I almost forgot he was drafted to SmackDown
<v Speaker 4>several months ago, and now that he's back, this could
<v Speaker 4>possibly start a few between him. La Night. Ellen Knight,
<v Speaker 4>who has been the United States Champion for over one
<v Speaker 4>hundred days since winning it from Logan Paul at SummerSlam,
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, has been had an okay title reign.
<v Speaker 4>But to me hasn't been challenged enough in defending the
<v Speaker 4>championship against guys like Santos Carmelo, Hayes, Kaiser Andrade and
<v Speaker 4>mostly Berto. Shen's key could pose a possible threat to
<v Speaker 4>dethrone l A. Knight, but most likely will retain. Night
<v Speaker 4>will retain. By the way, the robe that Shensky was
<v Speaker 4>wearing kind of reminds me of an evil Anakin Skywalker.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what that is wearing. Oh, I know why.
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it is because I never watched
<v Speaker 4>Star Wars. I really didn't wearing the most the same
<v Speaker 4>robe is from Star Wars Episode three, Revenge of the Sith.
<v Speaker 4>I've never seen any Star Wars movie ever, how about that.
<v Speaker 4>That's that's something to brag about, right, I never have.
<v Speaker 4>I've seen the clips and parts, and I might have
<v Speaker 4>watched like forty minutes of one movie. I don't even
<v Speaker 4>know which one it was. I just I don't have
<v Speaker 4>any interest in it doesn't it doesn't grab me. It's
<v Speaker 4>too long. It's like Lord of the Rings for me,
<v Speaker 4>which you think i'd be into, given that I do
<v Speaker 4>enjoy Harry Potter a lot, because it's kind of a
<v Speaker 4>parallel story in a way, it's similar in a lot
<v Speaker 4>of the fantasy elements of Harry Potter. But I have
<v Speaker 4>I just I cannot get through Lord of the Rings.
<v Speaker 4>Every single time I try to watch you. In the
<v Speaker 4>first movie, I fall asleep like an hour in. I'm
<v Speaker 4>just like, this is not the pacing, I guess is
<v Speaker 4>too slow, too much story building, which for somebody that
<v Speaker 4>enjoys story building, it's kind of a bit of a
<v Speaker 4>contradiction here. But I have not gone into Star Wars.
<v Speaker 4>I think I told you guys before. I have not
<v Speaker 4>seen any of the Rocky movies. Although I've seen the
<v Speaker 4>famous clips. I know what they are. I know enough
<v Speaker 4>to be dangerous where if you don't dig into what
<v Speaker 4>I know about Rocky, I could probably fool you that
<v Speaker 4>I've seen it, you know, because everyone just assumes that
<v Speaker 4>everyone has seen it. So no one's going to be like,
<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, have you even watched them? No one
<v Speaker 4>says that because everybody assumes that just if you're a
<v Speaker 4>breathing human being, you've seen the Rocky movies, and I
<v Speaker 4>have seen zero of them. I've seen the famous moments,
<v Speaker 4>I know the famous quotes, and that's enough to get
<v Speaker 4>me by that's it. Same with Star Wars. Like I
<v Speaker 4>know Princess Leiah, I know like R two D two,
<v Speaker 4>I know the big characters. But if you ask me
<v Speaker 4>to dig into what the storyline is and be like, hey, Matt,
<v Speaker 4>why don't you why don't you? Don't you just sit down,
<v Speaker 4>I won't interrupt you. Just go ahead and explain the
<v Speaker 4>star storyline for Star Wars. That's how you get me
<v Speaker 4>when you ask me for detail. That's how you know
<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen Jack. That's when I would just come
<v Speaker 4>clean and be like, look, bro, never seen it. Same
<v Speaker 4>with Rocky. I'm trying to think of some other ones
<v Speaker 4>that are embarrassing. Godfather. Never seen any of those. I know, again,
<v Speaker 4>some of the famous lines enough to fool you, but
<v Speaker 4>I have no idea about any of the storylines. I
<v Speaker 4>know that most people agree that Godfather three is the
<v Speaker 4>best one out of the series.
<v Speaker 2>That's it.
<v Speaker 4>So I'm trying to think of some other just really,
<v Speaker 4>I've never seen any of the john Wick either. People
<v Speaker 4>talk about John Wick with Keanu Reeves. Never seen any
<v Speaker 4>of those, although I do want to. Yeah, this is
<v Speaker 4>a probably a topic for after Dark, but I've never
<v Speaker 4>There's some movie series that you guys are probably like,
<v Speaker 4>are you kidding me? But I also don't have a
<v Speaker 4>drive or a want to see them, so there's that too.
<v Speaker 4>It's not like I couldn't if I really wanted to.
<v Speaker 4>I just I don't even have the drive to watch them.
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel the need. But anyway, this is getting
<v Speaker 4>worse by the second for me, isn't it all?
<v Speaker 1>Right?
<v Speaker 4>So far, there are three matches schedule for Survivor Series Wargames,
<v Speaker 4>two Wargames matches and one championship match. I would assume
<v Speaker 4>that this Friday on SmackDown, a second championship for War
<v Speaker 4>Games of Cody versus Ko for the undisputed WWE title
<v Speaker 4>is going to be announced. However, I would like to
<v Speaker 4>see the tag team championships from SmackDown get defended at
<v Speaker 4>Survivor Series and wait for it, another good old fashioned
<v Speaker 4>triple threat of the MotorCity Machine Guns, DIY and the
<v Speaker 4>Street Profits. In my opinion, SmackDown's tag team division has
<v Speaker 4>been showcased well on a consistent basis. However, I'm monny
<v Speaker 4>at raw. The World Tag Team Champions of Baler and
<v Speaker 4>j have only had one title defense in their current
<v Speaker 4>one hundred and fifty plus day rain as champions. I
<v Speaker 4>will say this again, just like I said it last
<v Speaker 4>week about the Women's United States title. What's the point
<v Speaker 4>of having additional titles in we And there isn't any
<v Speaker 4>consistency with the booking whatsoever of whoever the champion is.
<v Speaker 4>That is so true. And actually, you know, while I
<v Speaker 4>complain about triple threat matches and I stand by it,
<v Speaker 4>it's not that there's never a scenario that I would
<v Speaker 4>want to manifest for a triple threat. Triple threats I
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't swear off. It's just the overuse of them when
<v Speaker 4>it's clear that a singles match is a better option,
<v Speaker 4>and when they're overused, people just get numb to them.
<v Speaker 4>And it actually is not as good for a story
<v Speaker 4>when you have multiple parties instead of just two parties.
<v Speaker 4>When I say multiple, I mean three or more parties involved,
<v Speaker 4>because then the story gets muddied and you have kind
<v Speaker 4>of a cowardly booking way to have the champion lose
<v Speaker 4>the belt without having to be pinned or submitted. And
<v Speaker 4>that's all true, but it's been overused so many times. However,
<v Speaker 4>in this case, with the tag team championships on the line,
<v Speaker 4>I would actually advocate for a triple threat in this
<v Speaker 4>scenario because number one, the talent of these three teams
<v Speaker 4>is at a premium, right, these three teams are exceptionally good.
<v Speaker 4>You know what kind of match you're going to get,
<v Speaker 4>and so from a wrestling perspective, the fast paced nature
<v Speaker 4>of this match would I think and the excitement of
<v Speaker 4>the match would warrant it. And it would also allow
<v Speaker 4>all teams to get exposure because they're not going to
<v Speaker 4>have more than one tag team match with this pl
<v Speaker 4>there's no chance in terms of, you know, the SmackDown
<v Speaker 4>side of the tag teams. So yeah, put them all
<v Speaker 4>in one, give them some exposure and the raw side
<v Speaker 4>of things. Yeah, I just there's the consistency. Consistency, I
<v Speaker 4>cannot This is the concern, and that's a concern that
<v Speaker 4>it's really across the board. If you don't have consistency
<v Speaker 4>in any of the championships, I don't care if they're
<v Speaker 4>the loathed women's tag team titles or the often forgotten
<v Speaker 4>even men's side of the tag team divisions. Tag team titles.
<v Speaker 4>You can be the top belts, but if you don't
<v Speaker 4>have consistency, it shows a lack of respect for those championships,
<v Speaker 4>and I guess by default, by association, the talent themselves
<v Speaker 4>who are carrying them because the WWE doesn't feel that
<v Speaker 4>they are important enough at that time to put on TV.
<v Speaker 4>That's what you're saying. They could deny it, but it's true.
<v Speaker 4>Now you can't showcase everyone all the time, and people
<v Speaker 4>need to take time off, and there's cycles of exposure,
<v Speaker 4>and you're not going to get the top card all
<v Speaker 4>the time, no one does. You're not always going to
<v Speaker 4>get TV time all the time. No one does. But
<v Speaker 4>it's at least there's no consistent pattern right where it's okay,
<v Speaker 4>well they were on T for the last month, we
<v Speaker 4>know the next couple weeks they're probably going to take
<v Speaker 4>time off and then they'll come back. No, it's just
<v Speaker 4>it's all willy nilly, especially with the tag teams sides
<v Speaker 4>of things with the women and the men, where it's oh, yeah,
<v Speaker 4>that's right, they haven't offended them like you said DJ
<v Speaker 4>in one hundred and fifty days, like wow, that's right,
<v Speaker 4>that's embarrassing. You know, they haven't done that, and it's
<v Speaker 4>then they'll they'll defend them and then they'll go back
<v Speaker 4>into hiding for two months. Where do you forget their
<v Speaker 4>tag team titles? They're tag team champions. It's there's no
<v Speaker 4>consistency and that's a that's a problem. Finally, I will
<v Speaker 4>close off the email by saying, what's the point of
<v Speaker 4>adding a fifth member to War Games Bloodline versus Bloodline match?
<v Speaker 4>If Cody and The Rock are not involved, it was
<v Speaker 4>best if Creative just booked the four on four Bloodline.
<v Speaker 4>And don't get me started about the this year's War
<v Speaker 4>Games for Women, in which Rhea, in my opinion, is
<v Speaker 4>not a big deal in the scenario in which the
<v Speaker 4>focus now seems to be on Live and Bianca. But
<v Speaker 4>let me start here. Stop here before I rant again.
<v Speaker 4>All right, DJ, see only discord chat. So the fifth member,
<v Speaker 4>as I've said, here's how I envisioned the fifth member.
<v Speaker 4>The purpose of it is a multifold reasoning because I
<v Speaker 4>have been on the side of no need as well.
<v Speaker 4>I have been on the side if you don't need
<v Speaker 4>five just for five, you can do four. You know,
<v Speaker 4>the four is fine. The match type should not stipulate
<v Speaker 4>who are how many people are involved. The match type
<v Speaker 4>is not what's driving it. It should be the programs that
<v Speaker 4>are going on that drive what the match is and
<v Speaker 4>how many people are involved, and they're seemingly doing it
<v Speaker 4>backwards here. So here's again a multifaceted reasoning for it
<v Speaker 4>that I'm giving it. And again I've been against Seth
<v Speaker 4>doing this because it we go back on his word
<v Speaker 4>undermind's character. But I think I fleshed this out a
<v Speaker 4>little bit on my raw review. The reason that I
<v Speaker 4>can come up with the reasons number one and least
<v Speaker 4>important is that it's Survivors Series tradition to have five
<v Speaker 4>on five. Yes, the Survivor Series wargames match is a
<v Speaker 4>relatively new concept and the main roster anyway, and it
<v Speaker 4>has been traditionally a five on five elimination match for
<v Speaker 4>the man and the women. In years past. It was
<v Speaker 4>then you know about brand supremacy, which was ridiculous, and
<v Speaker 4>pro prior to that it actually had some meaning where
<v Speaker 4>remember the Team Sena versus the Team Seene against the authority,
<v Speaker 4>I remember Austin and Bischoff. There was actually real reasons
<v Speaker 4>to have five on five a recruited team. And I
<v Speaker 4>think the second point here is even more important is
<v Speaker 4>you have Bronson Reid in Seth Rollins as a side
<v Speaker 4>story to the Bloodline. Now, the Bloodline story doesn't need
<v Speaker 4>a side story. It is more than enough on its own.
<v Speaker 4>But at least instead of giving the Seth Rollins Bronson
<v Speaker 4>Reid a one on one, which I totally would have
<v Speaker 4>been fine with, they get to be able to be
<v Speaker 4>kind of a quasi cage match against each other. They
<v Speaker 4>get to battle inside the cage inside war games, and
<v Speaker 4>that does up the ante with this program that does
<v Speaker 4>warrant a cage match at this point. So having these
<v Speaker 4>two battle is fun. Having Seth Rollins be able to
<v Speaker 4>you know, toss it up with Solo and his crew
<v Speaker 4>is different, at least for Seth at this point. And
<v Speaker 4>Bronson gets a ton of exposure in this match, and
<v Speaker 4>he's been on fire and he Bronson Reid is ascending
<v Speaker 4>very quickly, and I'm excited for him. So there is
<v Speaker 4>that third and I think most importantly the purpose of
<v Speaker 4>this of Seth Rolands being involved in this match. This
<v Speaker 4>is my maybe wish casting fantasy booking, but the stars
<v Speaker 4>and puzzle pieces seem to be kind of aligning or
<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of clicking into place here. Last year
<v Speaker 4>Survivor series, yes it was in Chicago. Sampunk returns at
<v Speaker 4>the very end of the show, right after the war
<v Speaker 4>Games match, Seth Rollins and his team with Randy Orton
<v Speaker 4>in company were standing there holding their hands up in victory,
<v Speaker 4>and that's when Sampunk's music hit. Well, now we have
<v Speaker 4>Seth Rollins once again in the main event, no question,
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be the main event of the show
<v Speaker 4>with Seth Rollins in the main event of a war
<v Speaker 4>Games match again at Survivor series. And who has been
<v Speaker 4>out for a while, Seampunk, who's ready to come back
<v Speaker 4>from what we've heard CM Punk and Seth Rollins and
<v Speaker 4>Punk have yet to actually have their program because of
<v Speaker 4>the unfortunate injury to Punk last year. So perhaps at
<v Speaker 4>the end of this show we have Seth Rollins once
<v Speaker 4>again victorious with his team, and you know him and
<v Speaker 4>Roman work out some kind of one night only and
<v Speaker 4>then we hate each other deal and I totally am
<v Speaker 4>with that. I don't want Seth and Roman yet to
<v Speaker 4>have their program as too much else going on. But
<v Speaker 4>you have Seth Rollins standing there, Here comes CM Punk,
<v Speaker 4>Here comes Punk does the same thing one year later
<v Speaker 4>and stands there, doesn't interact with Seth Rollins, doesn't get
<v Speaker 4>in the ring, just stands there. And stares at Seth
<v Speaker 4>Rollins and we have the same exact ending did the
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty fourth Surbrivory series as we did for the
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three. That's how I see the ending of
<v Speaker 4>this show going down. I actually don't know if the
<v Speaker 4>Rock's gonna appear. Perhaps I don't think he even does,
<v Speaker 4>because you're not gonna have Punk and up here at
<v Speaker 4>the end of the show. I think Sampunk is the
<v Speaker 4>final the final end to the show. Now, you could
<v Speaker 4>have the Rock stand there and do what I'm saying
<v Speaker 4>Punk is going to do, but it gets to then
<v Speaker 4>a program with Seth and Punk that we all were
<v Speaker 4>going to get a year ago, except this time hopefully
<v Speaker 4>no injury. So that's my reasoning for why I think
<v Speaker 4>Sampunk is going to be, or rather Seth Rollins and
<v Speaker 4>Bronson reader in this match for the five on five
<v Speaker 4>All Right final email Darren, he says, hey, ww podcast family.
<v Speaker 4>I felt the same way as you about the women's
<v Speaker 4>title US Women's title. Don't think they're ready for it,
<v Speaker 4>but it's here, so we can't stop it now. So
<v Speaker 4>I've decided to cautiously be optimistic and give it a
<v Speaker 4>chance and hope they prove us wrong. Have we heard
<v Speaker 4>if there will be a women's Inner Continental championship too.
<v Speaker 4>I think Selenavega would be a perfect mid card champion
<v Speaker 4>if they manage it well. But she's on raw. Well,
<v Speaker 4>I've been advocating for Zelenavega to be women's champion for years.
<v Speaker 4>I know that she is the smallest I mean, she
<v Speaker 4>might be the smallest woman on the roster. She is
<v Speaker 4>a tiny woman in comparison, of course to the athletes
<v Speaker 4>on the roster, and so I think there's the size difference.
<v Speaker 4>But I've also I've always been a big fan. Her
<v Speaker 4>in ring has improved drastically, and we can't forget that.
<v Speaker 4>But I've always really been gravitated to her personality, how
<v Speaker 4>authentic she feels on promos, how she delivers the words
<v Speaker 4>on the mic. She's been very captivating it in a
<v Speaker 4>way that I don't think people really either realize or
<v Speaker 4>talk about enough. Not that she's been able to cut
<v Speaker 4>ten minute or even eight minute, nine minute awesome promos.
<v Speaker 4>She just when she does speak, you notice it. You
<v Speaker 4>pay attention. You pay attention because she's got that magnetic
<v Speaker 4>X factor about her. When she speaks, you just you
<v Speaker 4>just listen and she speaks confidently, and I don't think
<v Speaker 4>people give people give her enough credit for how good
<v Speaker 4>she is on promos, So that to me is really
<v Speaker 4>what is a telling, a telltale sign that they're missing
<v Speaker 4>out here. And I think that, yeah, Alena Vega, if
<v Speaker 4>they don't put her in the at the top of
<v Speaker 4>the women's vision in terms of the w or world title,
<v Speaker 4>well she's on Ross would be the world title, but
<v Speaker 4>they could definitely definitely make her an intercontinental title holder
<v Speaker 4>for the women on Raw. I would imagine though that
<v Speaker 4>if here's the thing, I haven't dug too deep into
<v Speaker 4>whether or not the US title is exclusive to SmackDown,
<v Speaker 4>I would think that it is given that there's a
<v Speaker 4>brand split, and at times they remember that they have
<v Speaker 4>a brand split, and if that's true, then you got
<v Speaker 4>to have a counterpart on Raw. And if they do,
<v Speaker 4>maybe they announced that at Survivors Series there's gonna be
<v Speaker 4>the you know, a Battle Royal of some sort or
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, some kind of qualifier to start a
<v Speaker 4>tournament or somebody will be crowned the intercontinental champion on
<v Speaker 4>at Survivor Series. Just something I thought it is last second,
<v Speaker 4>But if the US title is exclusive to SmackDown. See
<v Speaker 4>that's the key. If it is exclud of the SmackDown,
<v Speaker 4>you've got to have a counterpart on raw for the women.
<v Speaker 4>Nzelina would be a perfect candidate.
<v Speaker 3>I agree.
<v Speaker 4>All right, So let's get to I think a couple
<v Speaker 4>of voicemails that we have here, and then we'll be
<v Speaker 4>good to go. So let's I think our first voicemail
<v Speaker 4>is from Alex the French guys, So let's take a listen.
<v Speaker 6>Ask the French guy here, current European champion. All this
<v Speaker 6>message is going through, but I'm sending it a little
<v Speaker 6>bit late. I wanted to continue the discussion about character
<v Speaker 6>development and why the character in the WWWE or in
<v Speaker 6>wrestling is working or not. I made the statements last
<v Speaker 6>week about carrying crofts, and I hope he can nail
<v Speaker 6>the heal persona because most of the characters in ww history,
<v Speaker 6>the most successful ones are the ones that are a
<v Speaker 6>little bit of themselves. What I mean by that, Daniel,
<v Speaker 6>like the Underdog story had a physical because Daniel Brian
<v Speaker 6>is like that. I heard the story about daniel'brien when
<v Speaker 6>he entered the WWE, when they entered the psychological test,
<v Speaker 6>he was one of the guy that didn't want anything
<v Speaker 6>to do with the fame or something like this. He
<v Speaker 6>just wanted to be successful in the wrestling business. Humble guy,
<v Speaker 6>hunter dog type. Same with seven Dane entering in the Bloodline,
<v Speaker 6>hunderdog type. Uh, maybe not sure about himself. I could
<v Speaker 6>see the interview also, I saw the interview about Soul Gold.
<v Speaker 6>The songful podcast is.
<v Speaker 5>Just like that.
<v Speaker 7>Semis In character is just like that in real life
<v Speaker 7>as well.
<v Speaker 6>Undertaker Legit Bada has in the real life. That's the same.
<v Speaker 6>John Cena a little bit like respectful and everything is
<v Speaker 6>like that in real life. We can see that. Robert
<v Speaker 6>Raines same the real life is like not the businesses type.
<v Speaker 6>He is like more of the private one, the one
<v Speaker 6>that wants to be classy and everything. Cody Rhoads not
<v Speaker 6>working because he is the heel type. He is sure
<v Speaker 6>of himself, he is sure of his capability.
<v Speaker 7>I heard him say like things that you know a
<v Speaker 7>heel type kids say in an interview, like Grandy Orton
<v Speaker 7>a little bit despicable in some of his career and
<v Speaker 7>made one of the best character in his history. What
<v Speaker 7>I mean by that, if you incorporate yourself in your character.
<v Speaker 7>It can, and it may be it will, It will
<v Speaker 7>make a great character.
<v Speaker 4>Bye, guys, Thanks Alex, thanks for contributing this weekend. The
<v Speaker 4>idea that you need to be authentic is something that
<v Speaker 4>cannot be underscored enough when it comes to the success
<v Speaker 4>or failure of a character. Now, is it an absolute
<v Speaker 4>where if you are, if you're authentic and the character
<v Speaker 4>you're putting forth is actually a part of yourself just magnified,
<v Speaker 4>is it guaranteed success? No, No, it's not. I wouldn't say.
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't go that far to say that it's an
<v Speaker 4>absolute guarantee that if you just are yourself that you'll
<v Speaker 4>be a you know, you'll be a megastar. It's not guaranteed,
<v Speaker 4>but at least the fans won't feel that they're being cheated.
<v Speaker 4>Then they won't feel that you're you're playing a character.
<v Speaker 4>That's the difference. You're not guaranteed to be successful, but
<v Speaker 4>at least the fans will feel that you weren't trying,
<v Speaker 4>you weren't a you're not phony. There's nothing worse than
<v Speaker 4>feeling like a character is being played rather than actually
<v Speaker 4>that person being that character. When it feels like you're
<v Speaker 4>not that person, it is you. It's an immediate turnoff.
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like sometimes we get characters like that nowadays,
<v Speaker 4>and well, I know we do because when we hear
<v Speaker 4>promos that are ultrascripted and you know, you feel it,
<v Speaker 4>you feel it and there's no other way to put it,
<v Speaker 4>and it's not great television. And when it comes to
<v Speaker 4>character development, there's nothing more engaging than a character that
<v Speaker 4>is believable, that is relatable, and it is authentic. Those
<v Speaker 4>are such important key factors. And you can still have
<v Speaker 4>all three and not be successful, but your chances of
<v Speaker 4>success go up dramatically when you have those elements to
<v Speaker 4>the character. You know, So I totally agree with that.
<v Speaker 4>But thanks and talk to you next week. And let's
<v Speaker 4>get to the next voicemail.
<v Speaker 3>He's kind of for Baltimore's I want is to talk
<v Speaker 3>about this, this situation about Rollins potentially be an inside wargames.
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's still going to happen. And the
<v Speaker 3>reason is is because if you think back to what
<v Speaker 3>happened back in June, was Sam Pug and Paul Hayman,
<v Speaker 3>they had a U interaction and he said that Pat
<v Speaker 3>Haymond was you remember how Handen was all stressed out
<v Speaker 3>and told Punk that he needs his help, that he's
<v Speaker 3>will into I think he. I think he will be
<v Speaker 3>well into team with Roman Rains. That's that will that
<v Speaker 3>would lead to them doing the mat between Rollins and Punk.
<v Speaker 3>Beyond the fact that Rwinson does a light Punk that
<v Speaker 3>has to be more reason why TUCKI Moles will pick
<v Speaker 3>each other WrestleMania. So I think it's gonna be Sam
<v Speaker 3>Punk going to join Roman Rains, because why would Steth
<v Speaker 3>join Roman Race? He could? He could, He constantly could
<v Speaker 3>say no. And I know he got screwed at because
<v Speaker 3>of Broston Reid, and I mean by Solo should say
<v Speaker 3>but he got but he he got distracted, so didn't
<v Speaker 3>really do anything. Nance got got got himself distracted. So
<v Speaker 3>really it was it was Roll's fault that he got
<v Speaker 3>himself distracted. But my point is that sets to not
<v Speaker 3>be your more games would probably be Sam Punk because
<v Speaker 3>thus will lead to their match at WrestleMania because put
<v Speaker 3>put Punk was in the match and not set. So
<v Speaker 3>I think that what what the direction is. I don't
<v Speaker 3>think it'll be set. It will make no sense and
<v Speaker 3>it makes it makes less sense for Reas to be
<v Speaker 3>in it. It makes that's for for uh Rold's beginning,
<v Speaker 3>but if Punk is in it, it would elevate the
<v Speaker 3>few between Punk and Rollins more head int WrestleMania. So
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what's going to happen when Paul Human
<v Speaker 3>may may return, whether the mid night before or the
<v Speaker 3>night of the virus theories. So that's just my thought.
<v Speaker 3>I think that's again. I think Puff may may come back,
<v Speaker 3>and I think that's what happening and will be said
<v Speaker 3>they'll be Punks, So that's my I think. So that
<v Speaker 3>has to be so called by.
<v Speaker 4>Well Ceampunk certainly would add star power Kyle, No, no
<v Speaker 4>doubt about it. He'd a had star power, he'd ad
<v Speaker 4>interest and intrigue. Uh The feeling, though, is my concern
<v Speaker 4>with your your proposal, CM. Punk has even less to
<v Speaker 4>do with this program than Seth Rollins does and not
<v Speaker 4>saying something because I laid out three points earlier in
<v Speaker 4>the show as to why, if if Seth Rollins is
<v Speaker 4>truly going to be the fifth and final person of
<v Speaker 4>why they would do it With those three reasons and
<v Speaker 4>having see him Punk would be even fewer reasons for me.
<v Speaker 4>You could get to Rollins in Punk the way that
<v Speaker 4>I proposed, not that it might. I'm saying it in
<v Speaker 4>a kind of a condescending way. I don't mean it
<v Speaker 4>that way, but the way I proposed it earlier, you
<v Speaker 4>could still get to Seth and Punk, and that's clearly
<v Speaker 4>where they're gonna go. I mean, Seth and Punk is
<v Speaker 4>the program. It's not Seth and Roman yet. It's not
<v Speaker 4>seam Punk and Roman yet. We'll get to those probably,
<v Speaker 4>you know, when we get to twenty twenty five or
<v Speaker 4>beyond WrestleMania twenty or WrestleMania forty one. Rather, we'll get
<v Speaker 4>to those programs. It is about Seth versus Punk. Where
<v Speaker 4>does Drew McIntyre fit in. I know that's not a
<v Speaker 4>name we're really talking about, but I don't think he
<v Speaker 4>has anything to do with this program yet either. So
<v Speaker 4>my thought, though, is Punk in here makes even less sense?
<v Speaker 4>Why is he teaming up? Is it because, like you said,
<v Speaker 4>Paul Hayman and see him Punk are close? But like,
<v Speaker 4>what's in it for Punk in this? He can't recruit
<v Speaker 4>brock Lesner. Brock Lesner is actually to me, brock Lesner
<v Speaker 4>actually makes more sense than Punk does. Punks makes the
<v Speaker 4>least amount of sense to enter this match. Even though
<v Speaker 4>he does have a tie to Paul Hayman and their
<v Speaker 4>friends and all that, brock Lesner is a guy that
<v Speaker 4>just does stuff and they don't explain it. At least
<v Speaker 4>the precedent has been set for brock where he just
<v Speaker 4>does stuff, Like he attacked Cody last year or was
<v Speaker 4>it the year before. It's been a while he attacked Hody.
<v Speaker 4>We still not ever got he never got an explanation.
<v Speaker 4>I yes, I won't let that go because it's inexcusable
<v Speaker 4>that for a basic storytelling, you don't give a reason
<v Speaker 4>why somebody does something, especially at this magnitude. But with
<v Speaker 4>brock Lesner, he just does stuff and they don't explain it.
<v Speaker 4>So sure have him come in. The tie is Paul
<v Speaker 4>Hayman and he is. You know, he's doing this out
<v Speaker 4>of retribution for Paul.
<v Speaker 2>Fine.
<v Speaker 4>Sounds great to me. That's more exciting than punk punk
<v Speaker 4>in This match does not excite me. It just doesn't. Sorry,
<v Speaker 4>Punkin Rollins does. Brock Lesner does in this role. And
<v Speaker 4>again it could be Rollins, But why would they bring
<v Speaker 4>in Bronson Reid on one side out of nowhere? Recruiting
<v Speaker 4>Bronson Reid, who was in a very engaged program. It's
<v Speaker 4>not like he was a lost soul on raw and
<v Speaker 4>they just picked him up out of nowhere where he
<v Speaker 4>was just kind of meandering backstage and without direction. He
<v Speaker 4>had a great program going on with Braun Stroulman and
<v Speaker 4>then Seth Rollins, and he's been on the rise big time.
<v Speaker 4>No need to bring him in, but they did. Why
<v Speaker 4>would you have Bronson Reid do this on one side,
<v Speaker 4>have the Bloodline two point oh recruit him, and then
<v Speaker 4>not counter it with a Seth Rollins recruit on the
<v Speaker 4>other side. It just if that's the direction they're gonna
<v Speaker 4>go with Braun Bronson Reid, why would you not have
<v Speaker 4>Seth be the counterpart on the og Bloodline side. Yes,
<v Speaker 4>he said he wasn't gonna come in to be the
<v Speaker 4>fifth member. He once again rejected it this week, but
<v Speaker 4>I think that's all the more reason why he will
<v Speaker 4>finally come around. And they made steps towards that this
<v Speaker 4>week with Solo distracting him, and yeah, he just distracted him,
<v Speaker 4>but still the idea was to place the brunt of
<v Speaker 4>the reason Seth lost at the feet of Solo, so
<v Speaker 4>CoA that will anger Seth Moore and maybe convince him
<v Speaker 4>to just for one night only, put his differences aside,
<v Speaker 4>and you know, a team with the og bloodline, and
<v Speaker 4>I think that's probably where they're going. You could also
<v Speaker 4>look at the jay Uso deal. I mean, jay Uso,
<v Speaker 4>he didn't need the interference from the Bloodline two point
<v Speaker 4>zero to rejoin the bloodline, rejoin his brother, but they
<v Speaker 4>made that a part of the story when it wasn't needed.
<v Speaker 4>So they're taking the approach of being screwed out of
<v Speaker 4>matches creates motivation. They did that with jay Uso to
<v Speaker 4>come back to the Bloodline, and now they're doing it
<v Speaker 4>with Seth Rollins too, temporarily for one night only. Uh,
<v Speaker 4>you know, join the Bloodline to get his hands on
<v Speaker 4>Bronson Reid. That is the motivation here. Otherwise, what is
<v Speaker 4>what the hell is Seth doing at Survivors series? What
<v Speaker 4>is he doing if my if my prediction doesn't happen
<v Speaker 4>and it is brock Lesner or again it could be
<v Speaker 4>you said Punk, Well, then what the hell is Seth
<v Speaker 4>Rollins doing that's at Survivors series? Is he just gonna
<v Speaker 4>interfere in the match to attack Bronson Reid? I mean,
<v Speaker 4>I guess, but boy, you're wasting a lot of talent
<v Speaker 4>on a Big Four pay per view where he just
<v Speaker 4>sits on the sidelines to do a run in when
<v Speaker 4>he's had a great program with this guy, When you
<v Speaker 4>could have some really fun moments between Bronson Reid and
<v Speaker 4>Seth Rollins inside the Wargames match, it would really pour
<v Speaker 4>cold water on this program if they don't put Seth
<v Speaker 4>Rollins in it. Brock is fun, Brock's a destruction machine.
<v Speaker 4>I don't think it'll be Brock. I don't think it'll
<v Speaker 4>be Punk. I don't think it's going to be the Rock.
<v Speaker 4>He Rock may show up at the end, but it's
<v Speaker 4>gonna be I think, uh, Seth Rollins. So all right,
<v Speaker 4>well I got a coupy ro totally wrong, but he
<v Speaker 4>just makes the most logical sense. All right, one more
<v Speaker 4>and we'll wrap it up.
<v Speaker 5>This is DJ Cooles melt back added again on your
<v Speaker 5>mailback show records.
<v Speaker 2>You live on the Wednesday board, and you know what
<v Speaker 2>time it is. It's time to see.
<v Speaker 8>His name man, Hepiers. I believe in Joe Hendry. I
<v Speaker 8>believe in Joe Hendry.
<v Speaker 2>Destroit, Folks. Joe Hendry is his name.
<v Speaker 5>As I take it to my nineteen episode of the
<v Speaker 5>Joe hud Report coming to life once again from.
<v Speaker 2>An undisclosed location.
<v Speaker 5>I must mention before we start the show that all
<v Speaker 5>roads lead to Wisdom Salem, North Carolina. Next week Friday,
<v Speaker 5>Black Friday, the Friday after Thanksgiving, we are gonna have
<v Speaker 5>another TNA pay per view VET in TNA turning point, as.
<v Speaker 2>Joe Hendry will be on this card. He will be.
<v Speaker 5>Included in a six way Thanksgiving Turkey ball match in
<v Speaker 5>which the loser the person that gets pinned or submitted,
<v Speaker 5>must wear a Turkey suit. So hopefully Joe Hendry is
<v Speaker 5>not the guy to wear a horrendous turkey suit. Anyway,
<v Speaker 5>Let's take it back to who place last week on
<v Speaker 5>a TV taping of tn par Wrestling, in which we
<v Speaker 5>had the highly anticipated matchup of Joe Hendry versus Nick
<v Speaker 5>Nemet's brother Ryan Nemett in a matchup that went four
<v Speaker 5>minutes and thirty eight seconds as Joe Hendry got the
<v Speaker 5>victory with the standing ovation choke slam. But prior to
<v Speaker 5>the match, Joe Hendry has the director's cut off the
<v Speaker 5>Ryan Nemett story and it goes something similar to what
<v Speaker 5>he did last week to Ryan Nemett as he played
<v Speaker 5>that very short video of Ryan Nemett's career and it
<v Speaker 5>s goes something like this, he's Nick Nemit's brother the
<v Speaker 5>and as the crowd is chanting.
<v Speaker 2>One more time, one more time.
<v Speaker 5>To the absolute dismay of Ryan Nemmett, who had to
<v Speaker 5>watch that anyway, Joe Hendry tells the production people to.
<v Speaker 2>Play the video again a second time.
<v Speaker 5>We get the same roseult as Ryan neman is so
<v Speaker 5>pissed off, so he goes and starts attacking Joe Hendry
<v Speaker 5>as we start off the match, and like I mentioned,
<v Speaker 5>Joe Hendri against the victory and four minutes and thirty
<v Speaker 5>eight seconds can you believe this? Four minutes and thirty
<v Speaker 5>eight seconds, Joe Hendrick gainst the victory. As I guess
<v Speaker 5>you could say this, Ryan Nemmtt and Joe Hendry feud continues.
<v Speaker 5>Now we fast forward to the main event as Nick Nemett,
<v Speaker 5>Ryan Nemmtt's older brother, had a matchup against Brian Myers
<v Speaker 5>from the System. Here comes Alisha as she came to
<v Speaker 5>interfere as Joe Hendry was at the commentating table. Joe
<v Speaker 5>Hendry had enough of the shenanigans, so he came to
<v Speaker 5>take Alisha out. So that we could have a fair
<v Speaker 5>matchup between Nick Nemitt and Brian Myers of the system.
<v Speaker 2>But then all of us sudden as soon as.
<v Speaker 5>Eddie Edrolds was trying to come in, here comes Joe
<v Speaker 5>Hendry as he has a kendlestick. He comes with the kendlestick.
<v Speaker 5>After the match where Nick Neman defeats Brian Myers, here
<v Speaker 5>comes Joe Hendry with the kendlestick to attack Eddie Edwards,
<v Speaker 5>then to attack Brian Myers. But then he almost attacks
<v Speaker 5>Nick Neman as they both have this kind of awkward standoff.
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what's that all about, and this could
<v Speaker 5>just be a foreshadowing of a possibility of a rematch
<v Speaker 5>between Nick Neman and Joe Hendry for the TENDA World
<v Speaker 5>Heavyweight Championship.
<v Speaker 2>Let's see.
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, always remember, folks, to believe say his name,
<v Speaker 5>remember the words that Joe Hendry says anytime, any place,
<v Speaker 5>at any show. Two hundred and thirty one pounds of
<v Speaker 5>pure motivation, folks, and always remember, always remember to do this.
<v Speaker 8>Strong sight, sciencing.
<v Speaker 2>Well sustain. This is your guy.
<v Speaker 5>DJ Coolsbo have a blessed week, Big Kui to one
<v Speaker 5>of those stays in my friends, believe a peace.
<v Speaker 4>All right, Nick Nemath, I e dolfh Ziggler for the
<v Speaker 4>ww fans and Joe Hendry locking it up, locking horns,
<v Speaker 4>and it's good to hear what he's doing over there.
<v Speaker 4>Seems as if he's kind of falling off the w
<v Speaker 4>B general WWE fans mind, and that's okay, And that's okay.
<v Speaker 4>I think that you know that there is a time
<v Speaker 4>to hone your craft, a time to understand who in
<v Speaker 4>what you are and to go other places and to
<v Speaker 4>see what you can do and not have the pressure
<v Speaker 4>of w B on you. And you're working with one
<v Speaker 4>of the world class talent, you know, world class talent,
<v Speaker 4>a world class talent in Dolph Ziggular Nick Nemeath. And
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be again a good time for Nick Nemath
<v Speaker 4>and rather Joe Henry to h to kind of hone
<v Speaker 4>himself before. I mean, presumably he's eyeing the big time
<v Speaker 4>main roster and so it's gonna be fun to watch
<v Speaker 4>and cool that you're bringing us along for the ride,
<v Speaker 4>DJ for the development of Joe Hendry. So thank you
<v Speaker 4>so much to all the callers, all the emailers. Again,
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