Chad from Investigate Earth - MH370, Pyramids, Conspiracies, and Spirituality

Hey, Chad, how's it going, man? How's it going? Brother?
Hey? Good? You having a good night man? We are having
a fantastic And we just got done on the podcast and started listening to your
stuff. I did you. Yeah, I figured it wasn't a random that
you were jumping in and texting me. So what was the podcast tonight that
you guys were doing. Well, we were doing a little bit of spiritual
stuff, biblical stuff in relation to UFO's UAPs and all that stuff. So
yeah, we actually had you know, we're not very I mean, I
don't know, we're kind of spiritual, right, I Mean I kind of
grew up in a religious household. But we had someone that is very spiritual
biblical scholar, which I don't necessarily know that I believe in everything one hundred
percent. I'm kind of, you know, neutral on that, but we
at least have these people on because we want to talk about their like the
you know, the they're very devout beliefs, and then just kind of mix
it with a lot of the UFO UAP stuff and a lot of stuff we're
talking about today. I mean, even the stuff you're talking about, the
how we can really harness the power of the world right now. We're literally
experiencing this right now, and how does that relate to the spiritual realm.
That's kind of what we talked about a little bit tonight. Man. Yeah,
that's awesome. I think that that's really where I'm trying to push the
conversation forward, is like, how do you even move forward with a lot
of this? You know, I've been very critical of a lot of people
in the IP community just because I feel like, you know, if I
look back time wise from when I was younger and I'm over forty years old
now, it just feels like there's not much has been accomplished. Like sure,
I would say people are more aware, for sure, but you know,
we haven't. Nobody's shown in the UFOs. This stuff goes back to
Roswell, right, It's like, you know, one hundred years and we
haven't got anything out there. And I talk to these people that you know,
I've never thought I would talk to my whole life, and you know,
the way they talk about everything so casually, about the science of it
just feels like it's they're just like nobody's really even trying that hard. Honestly,
at least the people that are in the know that could get it out
there, you know. So I'll be honest with the ashould I you know,
with the MS three seventy thing, right you. So let's talk a
little bit about m S three seventy and especially about the debunkers. Right.
So, the debunkers I think have come out loud and clear against you.
And and if you look at by the way these debunkers that come out against
you, these debunkers come out against anything and everything that can tell or at
least potentially prove an outside power or force outside of our government. Right,
so you could you could have two versions of this, but at the very
least, like I won't even talk about names, but there have been prominent
people that that that's their main goal. It's like, how do we debunk
this? How do we how do we try to disprove that either technology or
an interdimensional force can actually exist like we are seeing today. And so Ashton
with m A three seventy things part of your thought processes, Hey, the
United States government has this reverse engineering technology or technology to where we have reverse
engineered this. We have this technology. And then the other side of this
topic, which is the UFO UAP topic is like, Okay, well,
if it isn't our technology, then it is a spiritual realm or force that
we It's kind of a scary thing, right, So what would be the
reasons Ashton? In your opinion, let's go opposite of what your theory is
for a second. Far as this is United States or adversary countries reverse engineering
programs, let's go opposite of that for a minute. What would be the
reason why government or debunkers would want to debunk a spiritual realm potentially of interdimensionality
of this to your thought? Have you ever thought about that? Yeah?
And I think from the debunker standpoint it probably doesn't change much because I think
that from the debunker standpoints is something I think I posted about too, is
that a lot of people are just fighting to keep the status quo, right.
I think that we were just listening to Eric Weinstein as well in a
space, you know, and he the first thing he says is, I
don't even know that if UFOs are real, And I'm going, wow,
well that's I mean, it's kind of hard to believe, like there's definitely
stuff out there that's anomalism. When we had the twenty eighteen d D Navy
videos, you know, that were declassified. So you know, to that
part, I'm like, Okay, I think that a lot of people just
can't believe anything until the authority tells them. Right. But for the perspective
of the people that are in the know, that know this stuff is real,
that know there's UAPs, and let's just say again for the sake of
argument, they know there are aliens out there and that they're visiting us.
You know, that's the part where I want to talk to people and understand
their perspective. The people that I've talked to, even as recently as this
weekend, you know, I thought, well, it must be that it's
a national defense situation where uh, you know, this type of the technology
that they're going to be using is of national security purposes. We want to,
you know, make sure we're the only ones who have it. Whoever
has it's going to control the whole planet, h et cetera. But it
may be even more simple and more human than that. From the same it
may be the same thing that we see from the UFO community where it's just
like middle school fighting, that there's that same infighting that we see as well
with these scientists, right and they all have their own agendas, you know,
and they're stealing each other's work. Like, look at it kind of
like this where if there is teleportation technology, the public has no idea,
but there's people and scientists that know that it is possible. So which of
them is going to get the credit? Right? It's probably whichever one the
public like comes out with it publicly is allowed to come without publicly first,
right, So I think you end up getting a lot of this same middle
school drama that you get there. Now. I'd like to hope that that's
not as petty as we are, but that's kind of what I've been told
behind the scenes. So I don't know. What do you What are your
thoughts on it in general? Well, I I okay, I'm gonna ask
you one question before I get into my thought and theory. What do you
think about CE five and uh, doctor Stephen's theory on that? Especially summoning
these things. I like our conversations. It's almost like two podcast hosts are
both going at one another eleven. We're jockeying for who's gonna be the one
asking the questions, you know. So my true opinion of that, before
all of this was that I thought this was some kind of scam or something
like that, but I was open minded to it. I actually watched Close
Encounters of the Fifth Kind, which is as documentary about it, I want
to say, a year or two ago about it. And I was never
comfortable with this idea of charging people. I don't know how much charges.
I heard it was thousands of dollars. But now I think, well,
maybe that's all disinformation too, and maybe it's not really all about that.
But I did like this idea that connciousness may be linked to non human intelligence
or beans or something like that. And I'll just tell people right now,
is that I actually like kind of tried it out on my own right because
I just I don't know. The idea that like you can project your will
or consciousness on reality itself is something that I've always been interested in ever since.
We was just actually talking about how I used to I would play poker
with Tim Poole. But I used to play poker like semi professionally about fifteen
years ago, like when it got really big online and everything like that,
and I was really good at it. Even thought about quitting my job.
And there's definitely been times where I was sitting at the poker table, where
I wondered whether or not the collective conscious of the people at the table was
impacting what cards came up. And this is what I always think about when
I would think about CE five, is this idea of like, can you
project your emotions, your feelings, your consciousness onto reality. And even now
I certainly do not rule it out, but you know, I think that
takes more than just wanting something like there's some other element that perhaps I'm kind
of missing related to it. So I think that's how I would answer.
Does that kind of give I get it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, Yeah, that's that's good. The reason I asked a question about
Stephen green And by the way, I see some people in the chat they're
saying, uh, you know, doctor Stephen Greer is a grifter, and
I've seen that by the way, I've seen say about me too, though,
So I get that. But let's think for a minute, like let's
let's just say, for example, this Stephen Greer is legit say that five.
He can summons these things. There's been by the way, we've actually
done a lot of pretty good research. We've talked to probably thirty people.
We actually did an episode on this, probably about a year ago. We
did an episode where we talked to a few people that have been to some
of the C five events. And I don't know what he charges. I
have no idea about any of that, but what I can say is a
lot of these people said it was pretty legit, and I was like,
Okay, that's pretty crazy, because when I first heard, I was like,
yeah, that sounds that sounds crazy. So some of what Stephen Greer's
thoughts are based on C five and I guess some of his deep meditation and
kind of how he summons these things, and some other aspects of this is
that if, for example, Stephen Greer is correct. Let's just take for
example that Stephen Greer is right to where you can somehow have a theory or
a mythology to summons or have power and control over orbs or beings or things
or energy, what does that do? Like, say, for example,
if the government knew that you had power and control over a direct communication to
an alternate power or force that was beyond their force, that was more powerful
than they are, right, what does that create to them? That creates
a threat to their power? Right? And so that's one of the things
doctor Stephen Greer has kind of pointed out in past things. But we've also
heard other people say this, like, if this is a spiritual realm or
being or things that we are seeing, you have a threat to the powers
that be a lot of these people we've talked on our podcast so many times
about the World Economic Forum, the New World Order, their global governance system
that they really want to try to set up, and their entire mission there
is to create a global governance to where they are all powerful, almighty,
and they are the gods. And we've seen this, by the way,
in Biblical texts in the past, to where even in Genesis and Exodus back
in Biblical days, whether or not you believe in the Bible or not,
it doesn't matter if we're just talking about in historical text we saw even the
Jews that were Moses said hey, we're going to lead you out of Egypt
because they brought the Jews in the Egypt. And Egypt had all these gods
such as Pharaoh and some of these other ones, but they were kings,
but they were known as gods in Egypt, and so as the Jews were
being let out of Egypt away from those quote unquote gods. They thought they
were gods, right, they thought they were the powerful, and much of
the people underneath the Egyptian rule back in those days were slaves. Regardless of
how you want to see it. If you look back in those days,
even the Israelis that came in or the Israelites that came into Egypt, they
became slaves, but their people in Egypt were slaves before that, and it
was all because of the power structure that the Egyptian kings put into place.
I think we are very much back in a way of we have power structures
and kings, whether we see it or realize they're not that. They believe
they are the gods. They're the almighty, and they're all powerful. And
if you ever put into concept an actual you can say it's God, you
can say it's Aliens, you can say it's UAP, you can say it's
UFOs. But if you ever put into any structure that there is a more
powerful group of beings over the powers that be in this world, the worldly
three dimensional beings, they have a big problem with that because they cannot rule
the people. If you have another way out of them, ruling the people.
Does that make any sense what I'm saying, No, it definitely does.
I mean because I think the way you're talking about, you know this
power hierarchy as well, and that's what this technology kind of implies, is
that whoever controls this technology, you have this whole control. And I think
this is probably why you were jumping in, because I was sitting here talking
about that you have the haves and the have nots, right, and it's
to a point where the line is so blurred that normal people, the serfs
to have notots, whatever you want to call them, right, are never
They're never gonna catch up. They're never gonna believe that technology is even real.
It's like the per defense is that they just they don't believe it's real.
So you now have your power structure is not threatened in any way,
shape or form. And if some other beings were to come down and they
already either delivered that information to everybody or revealed themselves, and you're definitely challenging
that power structure. Right. On a side note, I think that doctor
Greer definitely has information that he was privileged on receiving before all this happened.
I thought that it was a situation where he got some information, probably most
of it was accurate, maybe some of it wasn't, and then he kind
of ran with it. Now I look back, especially after I was in
the space with him a couple of weeks ago, and I think that like
ninety to ninety nine percent of what he's talking about is probably real. I
have a hard time with Biju from the Andromeda Galaxy and the Ambassadors and what
have you of the alien races, but you know what, I'm keeping an
open mind on it. I think that everything else he's talking about with the
science and like this, I haven't watched the documentary of the Lost Century or
whatever it is yet, but I already believe it. Like I think that
we've this technology I think's been not different decades and if we had access to
it, I think we'd be living in a different world even right now.
And yeah, I think it all probably goes back to what you're talking about,
is that it allows for the elites, if you want to consider them,
that to maintain their power, you know, and even just between some
of the conversations that we've been having even as of today, like you see
that same implication, right, I don't want to talk about it on the
stream, but you know, some of this stuff is real. It's like,
man, you just kind of get brought in and if you're somebody who's
open mind enough to believe this technology is real, it's a whole new world
for you, you know. And the last thing I would say is when
I was looking at the MH three seventy stuff, one weird connection that came
up was the one MDB scandal from twenty fifteen where the Uh'm gonna butcher the
prime minister's name. It's the one after Mahatier and actually before Mahatier. Oh
Najib, I think is what it is. They found this bank account where
he had seven hundred million dollars in this bank account. Even my dad knew
about it because my dad has worked in Singapore and he had his own business
and he had a consule, uh one of his I think I'm okay to
talk about this. He's retired now. He had a contract where it was
with the bank and there it was like he did that disaster recovery planning and
so this is one of these emergency scenarios where like we found this money,
what the hell do we do like how do we how do we like reveal
this to people? Right? And he was like brought in to discuss it.
And I was digging into the case because the m one MDB because I
kind of knew just from one of the news was going on. But like
the guy that was the whistleblower, like, put yourself in this perspective.
He's hanging out with people who have hundreds of millions of dollars that they are
essentially just stealing from poor people. And they're going and you know, hookers
and blow in the whole nine yards, right, going every nicest dinner possible.
And then he's got to determine whether he's gonna blow whistle. And when
he blows the whistle, they take everything from him. He thinks he's safe
in Thailand because it's next to Malaysia and it's a different country. Nope,
he gets arrested. The elites don't have they don't care about borders. It's
like the Batman movie. Borders don't stop them, and they throw them in
Thai prison, where that's the last place in the world you guys want to
go to prison is in Thai prison. Like there's one water bucket and fifty
people in a forty foot square cell and you sleep on the floor in fifty
degrees center forty degrees centigrate heat like one hundred and ten degrees. You know,
just straight up hell right. And imagine the dichotomy of one day you
have hundreds of millions of potential dollars, the next day you are literally broken
a cell and living in a cell for three years. You know, like,
man, that's and that just goes to show you know, how certain
people live. And we don't even see a lot of in America. But
I lived in Singapore. I went to Malaysia. Like Malaysia compared to Singapore
compared in Malaysia is like United States compared to Mexico. And it's just corrupt
when you go there. We drove to Penang one year, I remember,
which is actually where we're talking about the plane flying to. And just to
give you a quick side story on this and we can go back to the
other stuff, is that when we were driving up to the first thing that
happened, the cops pulled us over and they just shuck my dad down for
like whatever money he had in his wallet. That was like the very first
thing we were on this like eight hour drive. They pull us over like
there's like kind of a language barrier, and they're like just pointing out his
wallet and just he gives them like all the money in his wallet, like
I don't know, one hundred dollars or something like that, and then they
just let us on our way and then we get to Penang and like the
first hotel we stayed at, I'll never forget this. I've never been in
a building where I was more scared in my life. It was tilted.
I was afraid to go up in the elevator. And we get to the
room and it's like you get to the room and it's like slanted and you're
like feel like you're gonna go out the balcony and fly off the edge.
And I'm like, I'm not staying in this building. Like I'm just not
staying in this building. We'd never go in somewhere else. So just a
little side story for you. Go, dude, that's crazy. I mean
that, that that is nuts. You have pyramids pulled up here by the
way. Oh yeah, I was just showing it because you were going about
ancient history and what I want to talk about that? Oh oh, you
want to talk about okaying, package, Yeah, I do you want to
talk about this because you know ast on on our podcast the other night,
we talked about Robert Shock. Now, there are probably a lot of people
here that don't know who Robert Shock is. Robert Shock is a He is
a professor at Boston University. Robert Shock is alongside Graham Hancock. Even though
I think Robert Shock probably does a little more deep dives in the ancient civilization
theory as far as you know. For example, I told you on the
on the podcast the other night, when Robert Shock and and his team goes
to Egypt to look at the pyramids, they closed down the pyramids for his
team, for his people. And you know, we got invited by the
way this past summer and they said, hey, do you want to come
to Egypt and the Pyramids with us? And we were like, yeah,
we want to do it. And then something happened at the very end.
We cannot go. It was so bad. But but they closed down the
pyramids. Robert Shock is one of those people. He actually has a book
which I will get right here. Is it a sign book? I got
to figure out what the book is actually called. But well, there's one
myth of the Cosmos and Forgotten Civilizations Revised and extended edition. But anyway,
his theory on this is even the sphinks right. For example, it was
actually not a spink. It was actually a female rather than a male lion,
and he thinks it was it was because water erosion whatever. But also
the thought process on how did these pyramids get built, what was the what
was the power structure behind these things? So you could go biblical and say
the hey, maybe it's Nephelum, these giants that actually picked up rocks,
these thirty five foot giants. I mean, that sounds crazy, but you
know, biblical terms, you can kind of take that for example. But
then you could go the other example and say, well, these were advanced
civilizations, far beyond probably even what we are today. I mean, how
many times do you see pyramids being built today? How many times? And
if you look at our very mediocre way of building structures today, we have
cranes, we have a lot of weird construction techniques, we have a lot
of this stuff. But you look back at the pyramids, man, and
not only that the pyramids were built with massive We're talking about some of these
I guess A lot of this was granite rocks that were probably the size of
ten to twenty houses in length. These things were put in place and not
only are they put in place in you know, specific ways, but they
were also aligned with certain astrological what do you call astrological structures in the sky?
Yeah? Cosmology, Yeah, and all that cosmology and all this stuff.
What was the question is like, how old are the pyramids? I
mean and beyond the pyramids? I think the Pyramids are probably older than we
realized, but also think that the Earth also goes through recycling, right,
I think we have probably been recycled three or four, five, six,
seven times. We know the Earth is probably at least a multi million or
billions of years old. How many civilizations were around and how long were they
around for that structure? How and why did they? Why did they recycle?
What happened in the end? Did we did we destroy ourselves at the
end of this, either with our technology or just our technology to be able
to destroy ourselves. And what's your thoughts on this ash, Like, have
you ever thought about this especially in terms of imagery seventy and let's just go
there, just the technology we have looking at the ability to potentially you say,
I believe these orbs are a product of our reverse engineering. So this
is the first step being able to disappear an airplane. So what is the
next step? What if they can disappear in the higher planet or civilization because
they get pissed off? This is human nature. Human nature is a very
bad thing in in a lot in more ways than one. Typically, if
you look at human nature, we do not have a kind heart overall.
So how would you like, do you think that potentially our advancements in civilization
could have destroyed us in our past civilizations if you believe in past civilizations.
And this is something that I've only been broaching. I think it's I've been
broaching this idea of ancient history being pushed back longer than I've been doing that
m S. Three seventy stuff. And when I watched Ancient Apocalypse with Graham
Hancock, I mean I found a lot of stuff very compelling because despite the
nature and the name of the show, he's really just doing anthropology and archaeology
right, And he's just he's doing stuff where like I like, when people
I should go out and do the work, do the science right and he's
doing it, not just sitting there talking about oh blah blah blah, this
is what the academics. I know, he's actually going there and doing it
right. And I look at structures like the Pyramids, and I was actually
on with Jimmy Corsetti. He's somebody as well who I appreciate because he throws
ideas out there that people you know, it's just it goes against the grain.
I just I like people like that. They try to challenge the status
quo, right, And I think he's one of the first influencer proponents of
the idea that the Pyramids not a tomb, which when you look at the
structure of it, it seems obviously it's not a tomb like it's it's clearly
the way it's designed and the and the stuff inside that the Pyramids they're not
designed to be a tomb. It's clearly it's got some other purpose for it.
And what we see when we look at it here is what it's become
after thousands of years of erosion, right. You know. I think there
were some images that I was showing where you can tell that, like it
wasn't just kind of rocks the way it is now they've tried to like you
know, renovated and all kinds of stuff as well as it used to be
very smooth and used to have a smooth surface to it. Like you said
about the science related to it, this is a situation where just because in
some ways these civilizations were you know, in feared us, they didn't have
computers potentially, that doesn't mean they didn't understand some of the mechanics of the
universe better than we do now, you know. I think it's a very
real scenario where they understood quantum mechanics, perhaps even stuff like we would call
anti gravity, better than we understand it here today, you know. But
yeah, Also the thing Ashton, by the way, I think that we
talked about this on the podcast, if science is if you go against the
grain, you were defeated. And I feel like back in the pyramid days,
there were a lot of scientists Right back in those days, there are
a lot of scientists said, hey, we got to figure out how we
do this. I don't know, I have no idea why they created the
pyramids or for what reason, but we do know at the very least,
science today is minusculed. If you go against the grain, you're done.
We saw this with COVID. We saw this with many doctors coming against the
official narrative or response to COVID. They got threatened to get their license pulled,
They got all of this stuff. I think there's a lot of this
today, and I think we're seeing it on the medical scale when you look
at COVID. But I think that's also where we're seeing with the industry seventy
thing. I mean, we have three orbs that are encircling this aircraft and
and this aircraft gets disappeared. But also we have to remember that, you
know, during COVID days. I don't know if people realize this, but
DARPA, which was heavily involved in COVID, whether people realized, I mean,
you guys can look up the UH the articles. DARPA was involved in
COVID nineteen pretty heavily. They were involved with UH doctor Barrick at the University
of North Carolina as far as his UH, I guess researched as far as
the gang of function of UH of what was it the coronavirus into UH stars
Kobe two. Yeah, we gotta be careful just because we're on YouTube,
but yeah, I'll get you know where the line is, No, I
get it, Yeah, I get that. But anyway, so you can
look at those things and you can see that anyone that kind of pushed back
on that right, anyone to push back on that, they were they were
ridiculed, They had been threatened to have their medical license taken. And this
is no different, by the way than what we're talking about today. We're
talking about if you push back on the physics aspect of what is possible and
what is not, if you push back on the civilization theory as far as
how old we are as civilization, all of these things are, you will
get pushed back. And and by the way, I'm even talking about Robert
Shock, which is a Boston University professor. He is one of the most
cited archaeologist, geologist, and ancient civilization experts. He is also one of
those people to get pushed back, and he's got ridiculed in his own university,
in Boston University. And I think what we're seeing here is is that
we are in I guess to your point just a second ago, we got
to be careful because we are on YouTube, and you're right, you are
one hundred percent correct. They have to control information, because if they do
not control information, then they lose the narrative because otherwise you want the truth,
right, Like, is that not what society wants? Like society wants
the truth, humanity wants the truth. And if you don't want the truth,
then you want a narrative. And so what is it? Is it
the truth you want or is it a narrative an agenda? And I think
what we're seeing here is is that we want a narrative and the agenda rather
than the truth. Yeah and yeah, what I would say is this is
not medical advice. And somebody said in the chat that the COVID nineteen vaccine
is safe and effective and works against minimizing the spread of COVID nineteen. Just
want to make sure that YouTube centers got that love. And I think we've
seen it too with Scott Jensen. He's a former senator and a doctor and
he came out and just for the crime of investigating how many people were being
labeled as COVID, he got attacked. They tried to take his license away.
I think they I was looking into him, and I think that they
tried like six different times to take his license away because he was simply auditing
the deaths and looking at the death certificates. And we're not gonna get too
much into that, but it goes to show you that anybody who threatens the
narratives that are out there, the status quo, just gets straight up attacked
by people. And I don't think those people even have to be paid or
anything like that. They are just doing it because they're being told by the
TV and being told by their authorities that that is misinformation, this is harming
people, et cetera. Now, going back to some of the other stuff
like DARPA, you know, what I'll say is that I'm like one hundred
percent sure there's even unclassified papers out there, declassified papers that are into a
lot of esoteric stuff. We know that, like the CIA was investigating stuff
like remote viewing, psychic stuff. I've been making fun of Jack's Arfadi,
but I know for a fact that he was part of the CIA and he
was, you know, investigating a lot of stuff. So they take it
seriously. They take a lot of that stuff seriously, and then they will
go ahead and crap on it when people outside the you know that are not
under their realm with sphere of control bring those types of theories forward. That's
the thing that's kind of scary is that they're out there doing expensive research into
all this stuff, and then if anybody else says it, then they'll just
go and crap on them like it's not real. Like a perfect example that
made Street seventy stuff is like I had reached out to Jacksonfaddi about teleportation and
to try to learn from him how I'll work, and you know, he
was pretty rude and dismissive of me, and I was kind of rude back.
I'll just be honest with jack if you're out there, you know,
we can make amends. But then like just a week ago or two weeks
ago, someone's linking to me his stuff and he's talking about teleportation is real.
I'm like, what, like you, why were you crapping on me?
I'm here showing videos of teleportation. You can't Why would you not be
aligned with me on that? And it's because you know, it's they have
to There's it kind of goes back to that infighting. They're willing to have
one face and where they know this that's real, but on the other side
of the public side just go ahead and lie about it. So they can
maintain that control that's out there. Now. Two last things, real quicker,
I'm just looking at this picture of the pyramid. This is not a
tomb. Like looking at this, like the passageways are angled like if this
is a tomb, you're gonna have like a straight up passage. You're gonna
have rooms right like you would imagine you would have rooms like it would be
it makes sense for someone to walk into when you look at this, this
has like geometric and clear purpose. Whether or not we understand what that purpose
is, it's it's something beyond just burying people, right, That's now what's
going on in this pyramid here. And then lastly, what I would say
is to your point about reset theory, absolutely in the back of my mind
that's what I keep going back to. Is this every ever since I discovered
JFK's Moon speech where he talks about, you know, taking human civilization and
crunching it down to fifty years from the fifty thousand years and he just starts
by saying, for the first forty of those years, So the first forty
thousand years, we know nothing about our history except for that at the end
of it, you know, ten thousand years ago man had learned how to
hunt animals and use their skins as close, Like, that's how far back
at ten thousand years, it's basically how far back we can look back at
our history and look at how advanced and involved we are as just human beings.
It's like this is there should be way more history. Like if I
were to look at our civilization from the outside and just guess how long human
civilization has been out here, I'm gonna guess like over one hundred thousand years
or more, right, And yet all we know is ten thousand years.
So from that perspective, and to your point earlier, we know that like
stuff erodes over time. Even the Pyramids, and I think they're probably older
than what they say they are as well, just really hard for me to
believe that they're only a few thousand years old. And I agree with the
sphinx thing as well, where like potentially it was like had a different face
on it and it was carved out, and the water erosion around it as
well, doesn't really make a lot of sense considers in the middle of the
desert. So that's the thing that I think scares me. If you just
to wrap it up, you know, you take the stuff like Tucker Carlson's
been saying about this idea of you know, what he knows and what he's
been told is dark. It's scary, right. One of those possibilities is,
well, what if we're in a prison planet and they're just gonna riskset
us whenever they want, whenever we get a little too smart, a little
too big for our breeches. Right, because your point, this technology of
teleporting a plane, you just I think anybody who thinks about it logically,
it's like, where what else can you do with that technology? What else
can you do when you see three orbs that are breaking the Swinger limit as
Jeremy Reese was just saying earlier today on the on the stream, and it
can create basically infinite energy, or if we can even just suck the energy
from the vacuum state of space time, like this is free energy. You're
like, Okay, well now I can start to blow up the whole planet
pretty easily. Have to do is scale this up a little bit. And
yeah, so I think that, like doctor Greer says that the reason why
he doesn't think that the non human intelligence are benevolent is because he says they
could just destroy us anytime they want. So absolutely, Yeah, Okay,
well I will say that I didn't want to go here, but we're going
to go there now. This this is this is way safer than COVID nineteen.
So that's what's I like my YouTube channel for not I don't want to
have to switch over rumble just yet. Yeah, we don't want to want
to murder you on YouTube yet. By the way, speaking of Whish,
before we get into that, I will say that Spotify is so good at
free speech, and I want to give them credit because we've been with Spotify
for five years. And by the way, I think that I think Joe
Rogan going there and getting a contract probably helps that because they can't like censor
other people and also let Joe Rogan say whatever he wants to at the same
time. So I I but I will say, you know, Spotify is
not a US company, so they did you know, they don't have to
as of now abide by the same bs that you know the United States abides
by, or what they want to push on US companies. But what I
will say to your point here is with the whole spiritual realm, Tucker cross
and all of this. Now, we don't have to go religious, but
we can go a little bit in the realm of what happens when we die.
This this this is gonna get somewhat deep, but it's not gonna get
crazy deep. We're not gonna go you know, nuts. But what I
will say is that I think that and and that's one of the things when
when Ashton, when you first came on our podcasts, and you're right by
the way, you came on our podcast and you said, hey, uh
what I and I and by the way, you have done a ton of
research by by this time you when you came on our podcast, it was
not like you had not done research. You have. You had been heavily
invested in this before. So it's not like we brought you on the podcast
and and you had no idea what you were talking about. There were people,
there were listeners of ours that that said, hey, can you bring
Ashton on your podcast because he is saying some stuff about animate streets avenue that
I think makes sense. And some of these people, by the way that
that reached out to us, we respected because they had reached out to us
on other topics that they were usually right about and and by the way,
some of these people which I think I reached out to Ashton before about these
people, some of these people were in the government. I will be honest.
We have had government employees on our podcast, like literal actual government employees.
Now I can even say this because the reason I will say this because
they said when they came on our podcast that you know, hey, I
don't care if you say this. Even though they did not say we are,
we were allowed to say what what entity they were with. But what
I will say is that they were ahead of a major three letter agency.
They were over I'll put it this way. They were over three thousand agents
in the United States government. And they've been on our podcast a couple of
times. And so one of these that particular person by the way, Ashton,
oh if you even know this, but that particular person reached out to
us. And that was one of the people when they said, hey,
you need to look at this footage of m MA Street seventy and I want
you to do a story on it. I want you to follow this.
And this guy I won't say his name, but if you guys listen to
a podcast or whatever, you can probably find who this guy is, because
we do on the podcast in this particular episode, we say, hey,
this guy is is a part of the government. He is a big name
in the government. He is over over three thousand agents. And I even
told him before he came on. I said, hey, look, man,
you don't have to even say your name. By the way, like,
don't say your name. He said, I don't care if I say
my name. I was like, Okay, that's fine because by the way,
when he says his name, you can literally look him up on you
on Google and see who he is. But I'll let you guys figure off.
But regardss of that the spiritual realm, like, do we feel like
that when we die, that we are that we're going to see black right?
That? I think that's I think that it is something that people are
scared of. I think that's people. I think that's a fear of ours.
I think that's something that also when you look at this UFO and UAP
and alien and and God and all this stuff, and you wrap all this
in like I think until now with the UFO topic, we there's a lot
of people that only had faith to go on. They only had faith.
It was like, we have no evidence whatsoever they are interdimensional anything. And
by the way, if you, if you, if you listen to and
I want to read something real quick, because this is this is important.
I want people to I want people to understand this. And I'm not a
Bible person at all, but I I literally just read this on the podcast,
and the first thing I read, I was like, Wow, this
is kind of crazy. But if you think about what's going on today,
says Heaven out of this world that he looks Nebula, which is six hundred
and ninety light years from Earth. It looks like the gateway right to a
brighter world, but the glow is actually from gases of a dying star.
The Heaven of Scripture, many say, has nothing to do with the physical
universe. There is no galactic address. Heaven lies in this spiritual dimension and
even says goodbye flesh and blood. The end isn't near, it's here.
It's a vision in the future. The physical dimension is gone, is replaced
by something that sounds a bit like a super physical dimension, blending the best
of both worlds, physical and spiritual. Right, So you hear that from
the Bible and you're like, Okay, then you look at like the UFO
thing and what's going on today, and you look at all these things that
are you're literally talking about Tucker Crossing and some of these whistleblows as that are
coming out even literally declassified government documents and even classified government documents that that these
people are saying, hey, there are there is a realm of this that
we know that it is spiritual. I actually think the government one hundred percent
believes that most of what we're seeing UFO and up is a spiritual realm.
It is an interdimensional realm. And so the reason I bring this up is
because beyond or sorry, before we ever even thought about the disclosure of UFOs
and u aps, we only had faith to depend on a potential afterlife.
Now we are starting to see a little bit of evidence of of of a
potential other side, right, of a potential realm outside of what we know
that exists in our three D dimensional realm. Now you can take that as
Jesus or God or Muslim or whatever, it doesn't matter, doesn't matter the
religion. And we're literally only talking about the physics or spiritual aspects of this.
And so when you look at this, I think this is the most
groundbreaking thing we can possibly take from this today, and you can you can
wrap yourselves in religion all around all of this. We don't none of us
know, but but one of the things that we do know is that we're
trying our very best to figure out and concipher what we are seeing and hearing
today, and even with cern, trying to look at these other dimensions with
the particle colliders where you're where you're literally colliding particles at light speed or faster
in some cases, and you're trying to see what that dimension would be,
and you're trying to find those other particles. And so the thing I want
to say to people that we don't always get to see on our podcasts,
because sometimes our podcasts are very concise and we gotta get to point out.
But what I want to say to people is that at the very least,
it doesn't matter if you're a God believer or Jesus believer, or or if
you're BLM or Hamas or a israel or whatever. The point of all this
is is that I think that what we are starting to uncover in twenty twenty
four and twenty twenty three is that there is a possibility that we are not
just who we think we are. We are not just a physical being and
structure of ourselves. I think there is far beyond energy that encapsulates all of
us. And I think, by the way, what Ashton points out a
lot with the MA three seventy thing, the fact that if Ashton is right
in terms of what the United States has been able to reverse engineer, imagine
what is beyond what the United States has been able to reverse engineer? And
and so I think we have to I think we have to uh harness our
lives, and but also we have to understand that potentially there is something way
more and way more structured and way more belevolent than than what we are as
a three D dimensional physical body. Have you ever seen, real quick,
have you ever seen Andy Weirs the Egg? Have I shown that to you
or since you guys that If not, I'm looking at it on the screen.
Is that is that what you're showing? No? No, no,
the Egg? So here, I'll pull it up and I'm not going to
play it just yet, but I'll kind of spoil it for you here now
this short story, and then I don't want to play it because it will
also get me YouTube striked or whatever. But this is a story here where
it's it's kind of about reincarnation. Is the reality of it. Now,
it's better if you kind of watch it yourselves and dig into it. But
the idea is early on, this person dies and then they are re born
as somebody else, and it's about, okay, well what does life mean
then? If that's the case, right, And the reason why I find
it so compelling is that I'm sitting here, I've been talking to Roydy Herbert,
which we were just on a space with him and Eric Weinstein actually,
and this idea that time itself is really a construct, it's the fourth dimension,
but it's also something where you can I think I was talking to you
actually about it as well, where it's the only reason why we perceive it
the way we do is because of our biology, because of the beings that
we are. But if after we die, there's no reason why we couldn't
be reincarnated, to say ginghis Khan, you know, from centuries ago and
living essentially every life out there is just one person. Perhaps we are all
the exact same being, but because of physics, we're all in our own
local frame rate our own kind of little bubble reality and any given moment,
and that's how it's technically possible where we all could be the same person,
despite the fact that we may be interacting with ourself. And the thing that's
beautiful about the story that I'm going to kind of spoil is that it gets
to this idea of every kindness that we do to someone else is a kindness
that we're doing to ourselves every time we abuse or harass someone, where we're
just abusing or harassing ourselves. I agree with that real quick on a couple
of points you brought up, you know, when you talked about the government
agent who was willing to say their name or what have you. I mean,
one thing that I think I've come to realize is that a lot of
people aren't afraid in the government from because there is a lot of bureaucracy around
it, but also because nobody's gonna believe anyway, right, because what we
talked about is like some of this stuff is so out there that they know
that, like, Okay, even if I were to just spill the beings,
it would just sound like I'm a crazy person, mumbo jumbo, right.
So from that perspective, and they're so good at disinformation and throwing misinformation
out there where we're already, in my opinion, in a post truth world
where people can't even understand what's real and what's not anymore. And that might
be what kind of allows some of these people to come out and speak so
freely, because I've kind of wondered too, like why are they able to
speak so freely? They sowing disinformation? And I don't think it really is
a lot of time. I think it's just a time where like even the
government itself at this point doesn't even know how do we get this information?
And we've been lying for so long that noby believes anything anyway, Right,
And we talked about even if aliens were to come down onto the front lawn
and say hi to Joe Biden or whatever, like I think, you know,
Joe Rogan even talks about this is like the moment the government tells me
the aliens are real, that's the moment I stopped believing they're real. Right,
It's like, oh damn, that's a tough situation. And then there
might be other aspects too. Before all that MH three seventy stuff and all
this stuff I've learned about technology. Before then, I was one of those
people that thought that the reason why they would hide it is because religion would
be threatened and that people that are religious wouldn't be able to reconcile it.
Now I have the exact opposite opinion. Funny enough that I think the religion
will adapt to it quicker than anybody else, because the reality will mean that
there is a construct that we live in, and that if we then live
in a construct, it's this idea that there must be a creator for it,
which is very congruent with the idea of God and a divine entity.
But I think that the same issue the government has applies regardless of if it's
the religious people or non religious people have a problem with it, is that
I think they're afraid that people will just kill themselves for lack of a better
word, because of what we're talking about, this idea of reincarnation, that
people will just think, oh, I'm just going to take the easy way
out of this is an avatar situation where our soul lives on and personally,
that's what I think the situation is. Just for everybody who's watching what have
you, is that I think they're afraid that a lot of people that don't
have great circumstances will check out. And this again goes back to this idea
of the elites versus the non elites. The elites don't want everybody to check
out because they're taking advantage of it, all right. They want the non
the poors, the the surf class, they want them to stay the surf
class, stay working wage slaves and what have you. And just real quick,
the last thing I want to say is that this is just a personal
story there. I've had is that I've been pretty much unable to talk to
my parents about pretty much anything related to the case because they are what I
would call CNN brains that they have. You know, my dad's been somebody
that's read the New York Times probably every single day for the last fifty years,
right, and he hasn't, in my opinion, come to realize that
it's not like it was even twenty thirty years ago, where like you would
go to the newspaper to get the truth. Right, it's come to a
point now where it's pretty much just propaganda that's being spread under control. Maybe
it always was, but one thing that we have been able to connect on
is he's always been a Buddhist pretty much his whole life, and they believe
in reincarnation. And recently we sat down and I was like, hey,
Dad, I want to talk to you about you know, what do you
think happens when you die? And you know, he told me, well,
I'm a Buddhist blah blah blah, ih believe in reincarnation. I said,
so do I, you know, And I kind of told him and
I could just tell from the look in his face that he was kind of
surprised by what I was telling him that. And it was funny because I
told him, like, I think we've arrived at the same end conclusion,
but from different perspectives. Like he came out from this conclusion of like he
just always felt connected to it, especially when he was even younger in his
twenty and he would travel the world and stuff like that. And for me,
it's like I came at it from looking in the science of it.
Like I look at the science and I go, the logical conclusion is that
our body is a capsule that's holding our soul and why that's what this is
all about. Go ahead, absolutely, no, I agree, No,
I agree with there were literally everything you're saying. I mean, we said
this on the podcast the other day. We said, you know, our
parents, when you try to talk to them about what's going on today,
they just cannot fathom it. There's no way they cannot grasp what is going
on. I mean, my mom, if I call her at five forty
five, she's like, hey, I got fifteen minutes before World News Tonight
or whatever it comes on, and that is that is her worldview, whatever
that World News Tonight comes on and says that is what she believes. Nothing
outside of that, by the way. Nothing. And then by the way,
I saw someone that said I was trying to cross reference, like what
he was saying. Who was this guy that was on our podcast we're talking
about. I will say that the episode where we had the guy on that
is the government employee is the Israel war with Palestine and Hamas World War three
breakdown with Ras, sheied, are A s h e ed that you guys
can go check out what he says there, but I actually want to bring
on rashied to a deep. Brook said, because me and ros Shed talked
before this episode. Actually me and Ras she talked for probably an hour and
a half. Now Rashid is in in his position, he is in a
he's in a higher position, but he was in, in my opinion,
I guess, in weird other positions before the position he has now. So
he was in positions in the military, like high up military, almost psyop
type stuff before he got in the position he is in now. And so
when we started talking about the virus, right, we won't go into that,
but we started talking about that, and we were talking on a personal
level. He was talking about the psyop aspect right of He was like,
man, you know, that whole realm, that whole three years was a
It was like everything I had ever learned or knew. It was like I
ripped out a page from our book that we were trained on. And and
so when he got kind of deep in and that, I was like,
wow. And although we were not talking about that with our podcast that we
brought him on for, I do want to bring him on in that capacity.
I don't know that he can do that right in this position necessarily,
but but it is very interesting. I think I think we're living in a
world today that people are looking desperately for answers, right, I mean,
there people are desperate for answers to try to figure out what in the hell
is going on. I think we're all I think, if anything, as
much as we are divided, we are united in realizing that something is not
right. Like there is there is a lot of things that are not right
about the world right now. And uh and and I think I think if
I had a microphone to the entire world, if I had if I had
one microphone to the entire world. And by the way, our podcast over
five years, we are so blessed to be able to reach as many people
as we do. And I'm so thankful that I I literally wake up every
single day, I wake up to that is my purpose. And I've never
known my purpose. I used to I used to feel like my purpose,
which I still do more and I still do stuff like that. But I
was always chasing a I was always chasing money, right I was chasing money
a way to survive. But I'm telling you guys that are listening right now,
when you find your purpose, then nothing else matters. And when you
find your purpose, money will come, if if it's meant to come,
it'll come, but but it'll support you. Your purpose will support you.
If you're passionate. I guess if you're passionate enough about it, your support
will come. And our podcast is our passion, it is our purpose.
And I'm just saying I think now people like you Ashton, people like podcasts
like Joe Rogan or whoever, people that are really speaking the truth, no
matter who it is. I think those people are the most instrumental people in
society and in our future today because when they take that away, because that
is my biggest fear, by the way, for those that want to listen,
Like, what is my biggest fear in my life every single day?
Take my microphone away, like take take my ability to speak the truth or
at least speak my opinion to people to verify for themselves. That is my
biggest fear. And and I think they're desperately trying to do that right now.
And and and if you guys can imagine a world right now to where
as bad as it is right now, take away everything that is against their
narrative. Take away Ashton, take away me, take away your Rogan.
Take away all these people, and all you hear, all you hear is
the government's message. Think about Think about how your world would be, Think
about how depressed you might be right now, even given all the propaganda that
is being spit in our face on a daily basis. But then take away
every dissenting voice from that as well, think about how the press you would
be because you're in North Korea. I mean, we're close to that.
By the way, I feel like we're close to North Korea. I mean
I don't I don't know how far we're how far out we are from that,
but I just feel like we're not as far as you think. And
that's a that's a very scary thing. And so so Ashton when your im
seventy thing. Look, people can say image three seventy and the videos and
the and the satellite videos or or you know, there's gonna be people to
say, well that's bs. There's gonna be people to say that, you
know, hey, I believe this. But at the very least I know
that Ashton believes us. And and by the way, based on people that
we've talked to, and even the guy just I literally just talked about the
government employee that said he was one of the guys that said, uh,
check out Ashton, check out his videos. You need to cover this.
I don't know what that means. By the way, I have no idea.
I think I kind of told you about this, but yeah, I
don't. I don't know what that means. No, No, I don't
know. If he knows something that that we don't know, he would probably
never say it. I don't know. But take away all of that,
what do you have left? What do you have left if you if you
have no dissenting voice in any topic period, what do you have? You
have dystopian, tyrannical North Korea or even worse readit. No, it's you
have read it, you get read. Yeah, there's another topic that I'm
afraid to talk about on the podcast. But what I'll say is that I
took a chance and I made a comment on the news subreddit on a particular
thing related to the date of yesterday or out somebody who died on that day,
and not not only did I just get downvoted, And it was just
basically saying that we should not glorify death or people that are killed. Not
only and there was a lot of comments that were glorifying death, which should
be against social media rules, but none of them were being you know,
moderated against. Not only did I get moderated. I got permanently banned,
permanently banned from one single message on this particular subreddit about news. And I
think it goes to the point that you just mentioned, which is that when
you remove all dissenting opinion, what's left is you get not just an echo
chamber, but a literal brainwashing machine. And it leads these people that live
their lives from those particular social media platforms to not realize like what normal people
think and what they believe and what have you. And if you think about
some of the podcasts that I've been on that were very hostile, you know,
it's that's that's what I call the reddit brain where they don't even know
what real people believe. They think that they're going to look like heroes for
trying to chop me down or whatever, right, and then they find out
that real people are like looking at them, going, why are you such
a douche? Like how could you possibly be so closed minded? And stuff
like that, right, And you're right, Like, the what the government
is doing is they're taking away people's microphones, are taking away people's views,
and that is what reinforces that echo chamber. And this is why even when
you go to Reddit and you go to like the Joe Rogan subreddit, it's
like one hundred percent against him. I was talking to Jimmy Corsetti about this.
Jimmy Corsetti got banned from that subreddit. He was like one of the
only guests who's actually been banned from the Joe Rogan subreddit for like just trying
to comments about it, because everybody's just trying to rail on him, and
it's like, man, just think about the emotional and mental damage that's doing
too, like a whole generation of people that are out there. And that's
why I think that it's so important that we do have free speech, so
that we do have the capability to speak publicly and openly. And if we're
if people don't want that, then I think we have to get rid of
anonymity on the Internet, and I think that we have to do away with
stuff like Section two thirty protections because if either everybody gets to free speak freely
or nobody does, it's kind of my opinion, and I'm fine with either
way. We want to go with it, right because if we then get
rid of social media and say, Okay, we're not gonna have it then
people have to force to have interactions in person, right, and they have
to try a different route of doing it. I prefer if everybody can just
speak freely. But yeah, so one hundred percent agree. I think that
that's what's been going on, especially in the last few years. This is
what I personally don't think my political opinions have changed at all. I think
that I'm still the same person politically that I always was. I've always believed
that your rights end were mine begin. And then I think that's something if
everybody will live by those rules, it establishes pretty clear guidelines for what is
against the law and what isn't against the law. In the United States of
America, I think that we have this Overton window where the politics is just
shifted, and it's shifted because of what you just mentioned is that only certain
views are tolerated and there isn't any more this idea of equal justice. The
last story that I'll bring up here is related to somebody that I have come
to uh find to be I mean, not like necessarily, you know,
like my best friend, but somebody that I've come to respect, which is
Jake Chancelly. You know, he's been vilified in the media, he went
to prison. He went to prison. And you know, I told somebody
at a dinner the other night, I'm not gonna say who it was or
anything like that, that, oh, I know that guy like I've been
hanging out with him. Turns out he's not at all what the media try
to make him out to be. He's like the nicest guy I've ever met.
I could never imagine this guy ever hurting anybody, and ever, he's
way nicer than I am even And they were like, I wish you would
stay in prison, and I'm like, man, this is like even people
that are really smart, really intelligent people, well read people, people that
have highly educated everybody's susceptible to the propaganda and the brainwashing and that kind of
idea of if you remove people's microphones, then people start to cohere towards these
peer review to proved beliefs. And I just kind of said, I didn't
want to harp on it too much, but I said, I think if
you're to listen to talk to the guy, you might be surprised at what
he really believes. He's running as an independent, he's not raising money.
He wants term limits on people in Congress. It's like, I think you'd
find you might have a lot in common to them at the end of the
day. Now, yes, is he considered himself a shaman to have a
lot of spiritualistic beliefs. Sure, but that's not anything that makes somebody a
bad person, you know. So there's some thoughts. I feel like that
Chansley is a I feel like they made him out to be a subjective insurrectionist,
right. I mean, this is what they wanted to do. They
wanted to use this image and what he stood for, even though he didn't
stand for that, but that's what they wanted to use him for. And
listen, I mean, the reality of this is like jsex or we won't
go too deep into this, but you know, there were a lot of
people in twenty twenty that felt like that. There was a lot of weird
stuff that happened right at the very least, and you know what happened with
the J six and all that stuff. I do feel like I just watched
By the way, did you watch the Alex Jones Oh my God live feed
debate last night? Did you watch any of that with the I saw a
clip was not the one with destiny was that a different one? Yeah?
And that one, Yeah, that's the same one. I didn't watch it
all, but you know, he's another person that we were really brouching the
line of it's gonna get me canceled here today. But no, he's another
person too where when I went on his show, I had a lot of
people, even my own discord, saying, don't talk to this guy,
right because of the stuff around the lawsuit that he had happened, right,
and the Sandy Hook stuff, and even myself, like, you know,
coming from where I used to be, I'm like, oh, you know,
do I really want to go there with this? But this isn't the
kind of case where you can really be pick and choose who you go talk
to. Right. It turns out one of the best interviews of any of
them with him, right. He even said that this was one of the
most mind blowing interviews he had ever had. This is the same guy.
Oh good god, I'm literally just thinking about this. This was the same
dude. Yeah, so he was the guy on Alex Jones last night Live.
The debate was this the same dude? Oh no, so you mean
Destiny or who are we talking about? Okay? Yeah, because Alex Jones
debated Destiny I think yesterday, okay, yeah, and it was about a
lot of the topics that we were just talking about and stuff like that.
And I think that's where that whole thread that I was reading or whatever came
from related to that. But but isn't interesting that like, Okay, so,
but you agreed with this guy on your topic, right, I mean
Alex Jones, no, Destiny, No, I have Destiny. I have
never talked to you. So a little side story though, Destiny and I
used to play StarCraft against each other like twenty years ago, and that's how
he ended up getting big. Was he was one of the first like video
game streamers. And now obviously he's moreped into a whole like personality and what
have you related to it. But he was known as like people hated him
because he was super toxic. But now I'll tell you the truth is I
was pretty toxic back then too. So we would have like, you know,
little arguments in the chat. I don't know if you would even remember
a lot of this, but may if I told him my handle name,
he might he might remember. Uh And and I you know, I'd never
got into all that streaming stuff like that. So that's kind of the different
perspectives. And I don't think I would agree with him on very much honestly
anymore, which is interesting because I used to think that I was left of
where he was at from a political perspective, and now if you I were
to talk, everybody would say I'm to the right of where he's at.
Yeah, So it's just interesting how that stuff changes. Yeah, I mean,
I definitely middle. I think in the middle of the road in general,
but I don't know a lot of people think that they are. So
that's aside the point though, No I agree that, But yeah, I
just I guess I'm not gonna stay on here too long. We had a
podcast night. I I just want to point out that I'm very proud of
you, Ashton I. I and we and we've said this on the podcast
before we brought you on. I think you've done an amazing job. I
think that we have to have people like you come out and talk about this
stuff because and not just talk about this stuff. I mean, we can
do podcasts. And by the way, when you do a podcast where you're
constantly talking about different subjects, it's hard. It's hard because you know,
you have to try your very best to understand and acknowledge everything surrounding what you're
talking about the very best you possibly can. And that's given a like two
day scale of time, right, and and so so you should, of
all people should know that, you know, hey, how long have you
been doing mustry seventy? I mean it's been a while, it's been six
months, it's not even how long surprisingly, and how much have you dove
into like the physics, the science, the engineer all of this stuff of
that that that is, that is a lot of stuff to dive into.
And and so at the very least, when I see naysayers of people that
literally has zero clue in any aspect of what they're even talking about, they
they they say, oh, this is this or this is that, and
this is this. Dude, you haven't done any research what I mean,
maybe you've done maybe you looked up some stuff on Google, right, But
the amount that you have thrown yourself into the physics and and and everything,
not even just the physics, but you know, just the the ability of
the United States government, the spy satellites, the drones, the the aircraft,
how the I mean, what what the you know? What what A
what A I guess you can say a HUD would look like as far as
a a drone. How this how this whole thing works? Nobody does that,
I mean, and and the people that do do that can understan and
on a deeper level more so than other people. And so you're obviously go
thinking to people that say, well, this is this is crazy, it's
ridiculous. And I watched your Temple interview, which, by the way,
I'm not gonna say anything bad about Temple White. I actually think he was
very respectful. I think he did. I think he did a good job
by being respectful, but he also had his own opinions and based on you
know, the things that he had, I don't know I talked about before
or whatever the case is. But at the very least, I think you
handed yourself well. When I was when I was listening to his standpoint on
the videos, I feel like from my perspective, I feel like he was
I feel like and I want and by the way I'm saying this respectfully,
I feel like he was uneducated to the terms in the level of what we
are talking about with these videos with M S seventy because if if if anyone
has followed you and your research and all this stuff with the AMG three seventy
videos, you'd understand there's a lot more involved than just well, I can
do that in Unreal Engine in ten minutes, because it's not the way that
works. Yeah, go ahead, finished thought. No, No, sorry,
I mean it's just not the way it works because I've done in Unreal
Engine five. I know that pretty pretty well. But it's not going to
look like that. It's not the same it's not the same thing. It's
not how that works. And so I heard his point of view. I
got it. He wasn't he wasn't saying it, by the way, in
like an asshole way, but he was just saying like, hey, here's
what I think. And by the way, I felt like you did a
good job saying, well, but look, here's the reasons why this is
not necessarily as easy or as easy as you think. I just think that
twenty twenty four for everybody listening, it's going to be a shit show.
I want everybody to be prepared because this year is going to be crazy.
We have election years we have, in my opinion, I think we have
a turning point in America. I think we have a point to where we're
about to see whether we are a whether we have a democracy, or whether
we don't. You know, I know the Democrats are using that word a
lot right now, but we're to find out whether we do actually have a
democracy or not. There is some speculation, by the way this is,
I can break this a little bit on your stuff, just based on a
couple of things I've heard, But I think Joe Biden is about to be
subsequently pulling out of the twenty twenty four election within the next few days.
I have heard that from some sources. And so what does that mean,
Well, we don't know, but I know I was telling my brother two
years ago. Two years ago, I said, I hope he's ready to
vote for Gavin Newsom, because that's it. It's going to be a surprise
that Gavin Newsom was going on a world tour, guys. And I'm going
to break that here right now, just in case everybody we end up telling
the truth of the future. Here you can, you know, take this
and you can post this and say at Chad n Ashton on random stream called
it wouldn't surprise me at all, I said two years ago, Uh to
my brother over a Christmas that get ready for it. You know that's what's
gonna end up happening. Because but if but if you're worried about if you're
worried, okay, so if if you're one of those people that are worried
about, like, hey, say that you're like not Democrat, you're a
Republican or libertarian or whatever, say that you're one of those people. Who
is your biggest threat to run? It's gonna be Michelle Obama. I'm just
gonna go and tell you that that that is, that is the trojan horse
for the Democratic Party, and Gavin Newsom can come run. I don't think
he will win against Trump. Probably regardless of whether you love or hate Trump,
I don't. I don't think Gavin news will win. I mean,
you look at California, and look at you look at what California. I
mean, just look at California. I'm somebody voted for Gavin Newsom win.
I was living in California. Then I voted to recall him. So yeah,
he's got a lot of baggage that comes with him. I think that
was the reason when I was actually campaigning to I was out there collecting signatures
for several months. I was, I guess you could say, in between
jobs at the time, and I was out there collecting signatures are real people,
and I said, the reason why we're doing this is because Gavin Newsom
is going to try to run for president, and I want there to be
a blemish when he tries, because of all the stuff that he was doing
to the state at the time. You know. By the way, someone
said in your chat Kennedy, what do you think about Kennedy? By the
way, Yeah, I like RFK a lot, honestly, you know,
I would vote for him for sure. I think that the reality is the
Democrats are never going to let him be the guy, just like they didn't
let Bernie be the guy, you know back however, many it's almost eight
years ago now, because it's a selection process, right, and because he's
outspoken and says what he wants to say, and because of his stance on
COVID and the shots, et cetera, like, I think there's no chance
to let him be the guy. And then just from a perspective of it's
kind of a petty perspective, but I think that his voice stuff gets in
the way as well. Sadly. I know it's disgusting to say that,
but when you're looking at like presidential stuff, a lot of it's it's a
popularity contest, man, it's not, you know it, So every little
thing matters. And these are some of the things why people like Trump because
he just speaks off the cuff, and he's a guy that people can connect
to, et cetera. You know, with rfk's like he kind of stutters
a little bit. And this this is you know, as much as it
sucks to say it, you know, it ends up being a strike against
him, but everything he says is in my opinion on the money. Yeah,
and and even Vivic. I mean I think, like I really like
Vivic, but you know, I don't think they're gonna let him be the
nominee either. I mean, you could probably see a Trump Vivic ticket,
but I see a Carlson ticket. Person. But real quick, what I
wanna saying it's not a point before I forget that you were talking about,
because this is a really important one about the case, is that a lot
of people that I go on and I talk to on their podcasts, they
don't do their homework at all, Right, And that's why they get to
what you just mentioned where they say, oh, I could have create that
in you know, an hour and the unreal engine, which of course people
cannot do that right, not even close. And you look at the requirements
and evidence. This is why I ended up on that podcast talking through the
requirements, which I don't always talk through on every podcast. It just kind
of depends on if people start to push back on then I go, Okay,
are you sure, because here's the list of the stuff you'd have to
know, right just to kind of push back on that. But like you
go through and you look at all the case and the evidence, and this
is why, like on the podcast, I mentioned like, well, why
if these things are fake, how come they tell the story of what happened
to the plane better than any other story today by wide margin, use more
evidence than anything else. And all you have to do, the only thing
you have to do is throughout these interstat pings, and if you throw out
those inverstap pings, this is by far definitely what happened to the plane,
right, And that's that's the difference between a cover up and you know this
this narrative that's out there. But going back to the politics stuff, which
I'm happy to talk about for a few minutes as well. Is Like,
my opinion of Vivic is there's something off about him. Right from the beginning,
I felt like he's a little too produced, too polished. He's also
kind of young. I mean, I love everything he's saying, right,
Like this is just me from a perception perspective, right, it feels like
he's also kind of been selected, is the reality. That's what it feels
like to me versus you look at somebody like Trump, and I'll be honest
with everybody else. I'm not like a huge Trump supporter in any way,
shape or form, but he comes off as completely honest. He says what
he thinks. Right. When I look at Vivid, it's like I feel
like everything he's saying is he's looking at a sheet that says, here's all
the things I'm supposed to say, right. And somebody even caught him on
the Conspiracy read it. I was looking at yesterday or two days ago,
and they even caught him. We're back in you know, right after the
January six event, he was saying how he was this is horrible, blah
blah blah, And then yesterday he was saying something about oh, you know,
and completely opposite day right, like how it was a detriment. It's
like he's like kind of flowing with the wind, or you know, flip
flopping and blowing with the wind of that case. So that's my concern with
him, is that I want to know if he's really genuine about everything he
says. It just feels like he's just saying the right things, and okay,
maybe that's fine. So that's just my opinion, well unpopular opinion.
By the way, someone said in your chat, they said, let's see
what they say. They said, well, well there's one person that said
maggot twenty twenty four. But uh someone said vivid if elected, watch him
change his tune asap. That's what I'm concerned about. Yeah, And and
by the way, I think that's also Nikki Haley, like Nick Heley.
By the way, I don't know if anyone knows this, but isn't she
you? Yeah, she was our governor where my wife Sharon and I live
where we host our podcast. She was our governor. Nicki Haleey was our
South Carolina governor. Didn't love her as governor, but I mean I thought
we were you know she was all right, but Trump came out and said,
hey, by the way, just wait and see how fast she turns
against you like she did me. And that was a great comment because you
know, Nikki Haley was you know, one of one of his girls in
in his administration, and as soon as everyone went against Trump, you know,
she turned against him. Here's unpopular opinion, though, And I'll just
say this, and I'm not gonna say it's a you band or anything else,
but I will say is that I don't think it matters. Super gonnaote
for in twenty twenty four. Yeah, I don't. I don't. I
really don't think so. I think we are past that. I don't think
it ever matters in my opinion, man. But I think it's beyond.
I think it's beyond even what you're saying. I think it's beyond. Like,
I think there is a massive system set up right now to where it
does not matter at all whatsoever. Yeah. I think that they have a
potential system that is in place that we you know, we don't have a
there is no Look I say this on the podcast and this is just my
opinion the facts, but I say that there will never be a pro American
Republican president and office ever again. So yeah, you can thank everyone's worth.
Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. And since we're just you know,
throwing it out there, like I probably would vote for Trump in a heartbeat
if he had fired Anthony Fauci, if he had done that, I think
now looking back, I think that, in my opinion, is somebody just
looking at the outside in. That's probably his biggest blender was not doing that.
I think that he disenfranchised himself with a lot of people that are probably
now on like the RFK bandwagon. Just to be honest, I agree,
And yeah, if he had done that, I think I'd be all in.
And but reality is my personal opinion is I think Trump's gonna win no
matter what. I think that he beats anybody out there just because one thing
I learned from the Obama era real quick, and you know I voted for
Obama. I'll say just out there I did too. Actually, is that
it's a lot about like what your momentum is, right, Like, you've
got this momentum if you can really like pull people. And when you see
Trump's rallies, like it's like, wow, you know he's got he pulls
people. And that's something that I've always felt as a powerful aspect of politics,
even in companies as well. Like I even think that that existed with
like Tesla, where the reason why I would tell people invest in Tesla and
early mid you know, two thousand and twenty ten, was like, people
just want it to be successful, right, And when you want something to
be successful, it ends up kind of like you said, like when you
were talking about you know, if you say your truth, then you follow
it, you will be successful. It's the same kind of idea that's out
there. And if you come out there and you lie and you're deceptive or
whatever, people don't resonate with it. And I think that applies to all
aspects of life. Yeah, it's it's weird. I think that most people,
you know, And it goes back to this, like I think most
people want aliens to come invade because of literally because of our choices we have.
Like most people are just saying, look, look how screwed up our
government is. Like if aliens come invade, Like, what is the worst
case scenario? I'm rooting for alien invasion honestly at this point, although I
think it would be a big sigh op. But yeah, I'm still rooting
for it. You know, man, I wish those shadow aliens were real
and they just they were invading. I'd be syning. Yes, shadow aliens
take over this, end this, But do you realize the psychological aspect of
that, like the aliens thing, do you realize that the psychological aspect I
really believe because of how screwed our actual people are, Like people are looking
for a savior of some kind that they're they're literally looking for, like the
Miami thing, which, by the way, we still don't know what to
deal is one hundred percent of the Miami thing. We don't. I mean,
we had some Miami officers and listening to our podcasts and and by the
way, this guy, I can read the message to you if you want
me to, but he sent us a message and said, hey, we
have some guys that they want to talk to you about the about the Miami
thing. Yeah, and I have not got back. I've not heard back
from that. But regardless, people are desperate like they are. They like,
isn't it sad when people are more desperate for aliens to come invade than
they are our administration in our government. Definitely yeah, And I mean I've
looked into this stuff now and I'm pretty off the Miami Bandwagon stuff. I
was coming back onto it for a minute, but I'm like ninety nine point
nine percent sure now that people are just making up these stories now because of
the you know, because they saw, oh I actually got ten million views
and Chemstar I got ten million views. Now they just kind of want to
ride the coattails of it. But yeah, I definitely think that there's this
idea that you know, people just want change, right. And this even
goes again back to Obama back in two thousand and eight, is like that's
what he was running on, you know, hope and change. And this
is why also I think that generally you find there's a flip back and forth
between the parties on different election years. We go to Democrat Republican Democrat Republican
because everybody just wants to change. And then I'm old enough to realize we
never get change, right, And this is why I'm just kind of disenfranchised
with the system in generals that we always get a new person in there,
they never have any significant change to the part the politics, to the government
structure, or anything else related to it. And that's why I've kind of
just come to this own personal opinion that like it's really more of a selection
process and nothing's really going to ever get done there. So you know,
personally, Hey, Ashton, what what do you feel like is the hope
for the people? What do you feel like is the hope for the people?
Yeah? I mean the hope for the people in general. To me
is the technology. So this is I was going to do a space and
a stream about what does disclosure mean to people? And I want to just
people to come in and tell me what they think disclosure means, you know,
because I think that everybody looks at it differently. You got the people
that want to clap those alien cheeks. You've got the people that want to
go fly to another solar system, right and they just want to get the
hell out of here, kind of to your point before. To me,
I have like at disclosure. To me, it's the technology. It's the
ability to change the circumstances of billions of people on this planet. To me,
the things that I've been passionate about are helping people. And by helping
people, I mean not having children go to bed hungry, not having their
be homeless people with nothing on the streets, because I personally believe that living
on the streets has a mental impact on people a negative one. And with
this technology, even with just room temperture superconductivity, we can just completely change
the circumstances of the whole face of the planet pretty much. And then that's
just the beginning, right I mean talking about flying cars and be able to
have computers they're a thousand times more powerful than we have right now, being
able to teleport different places. You know, it's it becomes like Star Trek.
It really just becomes like Star Trek at that point. By the way,
I think, I think that you're going to be one of those guys
and in our time, and for those listeners there listening right now, I'm
telling you, Ashton's going to be one of these dudes. Whether you realize
it now or not, he is going to be one of these guys.
I don't even want to say why or why I think that, but I'm
just telling you he's going to be one of these guys. And you've got
to have these You got to have these people. Ashon is an every day
whatever the hell he does, I don't know, whatever Ashton does it doesn't
matter. Ashton is going to be one of these guys. I know Ashon
on a pretty good personal level. We we text and talk quite a bit.
And I'm just saying that Ashon is potentially going to be one of these
people that change the course of our future and humanity. And we have to
have people like this, And that's why if we don't have people like this
that tries to pave a new path or tries to go against a narrative,
if we don't ever go against the narrative and pave a new path, We're
never going to know anything different, anything new. We're never gonna We're just
gonna settle for what it is that the government and the elites say that we
are allowed to know or or believe. And it's going to be a hard
battle, by the way. It's going to be. It is going to
be a very hard battle for those people that go against the grain. But
I believe you, ash and I really do believe in you, by the
way, and I believe you're smart enough to make those changes, to make
those advancements in our future. I think we have people and literally I would
even maybe compare you to like an Elon Musk, even though Elon Musk obviously
he's got rockets and Tesla and all this shit. But I think you can.
I think you can be that right, and I think but you can
be that in a different way. And so when people, you know,
even when people look at Steven Greer, you know he's a griptor, he's
this, you have to not just necessarily discredit him as a grifter. You
have to look and listen to what he has to say. You have to
take that into your consciousness, and then you have to apply that to everything
else that you know and listen to and hear. There. There are some
people that may not be completely right. I mean, no one's perfect right,
but there are people that you can take all of these different aspects and
you can apply that to all of these different theories and things, and I
think that we can really advance because in my opinion, I think Ashton will
agree with me on this, we cannot no longer depend on the government and
the United States or any world entity to advance us in civilization. You're at
a cusp of advancing ourselves as independence, as people that that get together,
we start understanding and learning from each other, and that's how we really advance
each other, and our biggest battle is the government trying to stop that from
happening. And Ash, I think you know what I'm talking about when I'm
saying that, But I'm just saying that. I think that that is that
is what we have to do. And so to save humanity, how do
we save humanity? We have to save humanity with ourselves. We have to
do We have to connect with each other, and we have to figure out
ways like if government wants to lock off scientists from figuring out reverse engineering or
this or that, they want to, you know, compartmentalize everything, we
have to open up all of that in our independent media, in our independent
conversations, in our independent science. That's how we change the world. And
I think that, uh, I think the Ashton's m Street seventy thing.
I think that is a huge first step. And I also think that's maybe
why there's so much backlash. So I wanted to point that Ash. I
think that I think that one day people are going to look back on this
and and everything you're trying to learn and understand, even in our personal conversations.
By the way, I think that's I think that's going to be huge.
I think ten years from now, fifteen years from now, people don't
necessarily understand it right now. And I think that maybe you will release some
information that you have been learning in the background outside of the public realm.
But I but I think that people are going to understand that, like it
is us that determines our future. It is not it is not the government,
is not the powers that be. It is us who determines where we
go from here, because if we depend and only let the government tell us
where we go, we go nowhere. And I think if you look back
by the way a history, it was the people that went against the grain
that actually made the biggest changes and the biggest staples in our history and in
our future. Now. Yeah, and I'm just not very proud of you.
Thank you very much, sir, Thank you Chad. I love you
guys so much. And I think that you just had some really nice words.
You know. One thing I would say, I get reminded of a
lot A lot of people have said stuff about me that I think is inaccurate.
But one of the things that I guess I find a little bit offensive
is this idea that like I'm full of myself, I would say that,
you know, that's definitely not the case. I think that a lot of
times when people say stuff that people don't want to hear, they have this
idea that, oh, that person must be narcissists or whatever. But I
think that Kim dot Com told me one thing before he started kind of retweeting
all my stuff and boosting the message a lot, was you know, stay
humble when you you know, make it or whatever. And I told them,
I'm never going to change. There's nothing that's going to change me.
I'm old enough at this point where, like you know, who I am
is pretty solidified. And even if I were even if I were to become
president of the United States, even if I were to become an Elon Musk
with billions of dollars, it wouldn't change who I am at all. I
would still be trying to seek the same exact things as I am, as
this person you see in front of you here today. And this is why
I started MH three seven zero X is that it's about connecting people. Just
so you talked about and we've been talking about politics and stuff that I think
is somewhat divisive, of course, but the reality is the people that have
been following this case are of multiple political persuasions. We have people that come
from working class backgrounds, people that come from you know, white collar backgrounds,
people that are very educated, people that don't have lots of education.
But we all have the same common purpose and the same common goal, right,
is that we are looking at the science to figure out and drive our
future forward. And how are we doing it. We're not doing it through
mainstream media channels. I've never been on TV, never once, Right,
I'm just going on alternative media talking to real people. And like you said,
it's you know when they take away your microphone, Well, we create
our own avenue for it. And I'll just throw a quick thank you to
Elon Musk again, even though my personal belief is that he's been getting attacked
because he took away one of the government's propaganda tools, which was Twitter.
And once he took that away, he gave power back to the people,
and he gave power back to people like us. And you know, I've
been using that because I think that this is one of the last avenues that
we really have free speech where we can hear real people. We don't always
have to agree with everything. Everybody's saying, and we're gonna see stuff that
we don't like to hear that's out there. But that's what free speech is
all about. It's not just all people you agree with all the time,
right, So I agree, I agree Ashton, but listen, I think
twenty twenty four is going to be a good year for you. I believe
that. And and by the way, there's someone in chat says she's a
cougar rashion, So I'm just saying, I appreciate that Keemstar was joking around
that I made the joke about one of the girls that was our ladies,
let's say women that was mentioned in the mentioned the aliens in Miami thing.
He's like, oh, we got to get you set up in a space
because Ashton's thirsty out there. And I just started laughing. I love Keemstar.
He just cracks me up. And oh he's funny. He's by the
way, Keemstar has been around for a very long time. He used to
commentate all of the YouTube stuff, so Logan Paul everything, all the drama
and YouTube. He was huge in there. And it's kind of funny because
we started seeing him now in the UFO space. He's trying to he's trying
to transition into a YouTube news guy, and now he transition to a UFO
guy, which is kind of interesting. But either way. Yeah, so
that's all I have to say, Ashton, I appreciate you. Any final
thoughts on this. We have a little impromptu hard truths here today, Chad.
I think it was a good one. I may have to edit this
and post it up as an official hard truth. Well, the final thoughts
I have for everybody is that, look, here's the deal. We're in
twenty twenty four guys, and at the end of the day, we have
to realize our surroundings. We have to look at every every single thing we
see, and I think that we have an opportunity right now. I think
we have opportunity to really harness the information we are giving because I think that,
in my opinion, we're probably within six to eight months. And I
hope I'm wrong, by the way by this, but I'm saying within six
to eight months we may not no longer have the opportunity to harness the information
we are given right now. Like do you ever do you ever think like
when you are healthy, for example, and you take for granted your healthiness,
you take it for granted, your ability to walk to your car,
to go to the grocery store, to go for a walk, to go
for a run, to go do all these things. Right, you take
for granted that. But say that you get cancer, or say that you
get some disease, or say that you break your leg or or or you
even lose your leg, and then all of a sudden, you're in bed.
You cannot move, you cannot you cannot function normally as a human being
anymore. And yet just the day before all this happened, you were able
to function completely fine. But you took for granted that you didn't do all
these things that you could have done. You didn't go for a walk,
you didn't you didn't harness these abilities that you have as a human being,
as a normal function in human being with no health problems. But one day
it comes along that you no longer have those abilities to do that. What
we're seeing right now, guys, what we're seeing in the podcast with our
pockets, with with with with Ashton's platform, his ability to speak, his
ability to get at his thoughts and his opinions and his evidence, along with
our podcasts along with this exact stream right now, these are things that are
like our health. And I understand that you guys are listening to this right
now and you're like, hey, man, we're we're harnessing this even though
you don't realize you are, but you you're getting a taste of freedom.
This is a taste of freedom here in a conversation, here, in discourse,
hearing things, hearing people talk about things that are not necessarily granted in
the in the realm of the agenda against in my opinion, by the way,
against the globalist or for the globists or new word order. You have
to understand that that can be taken away very fast. And by the way,
I feel like it is going to be. I feel like, regardless
of how we see this, I think that our ability to do what we're
doing right now is no longer going to be able to be done within six
to eight months, maybe a year. Maybe I'll give it a year.
And I hope no, I'm sorry, I'm just saying I hope I'm wrong.
And so I just want you guys to understand that, like your fight
is for information and you guys, and we say this all the time on
our podcast, you got to fight, man, You got to tell everyone,
you know, like, our biggest threat to society and humanity is information,
and if we lose that, we lose everything. We lose medical freedom,
we lose freedom in general, we lose everything that we ever have known
as human beings. Is being just be able, you know, just to
be able to discourse with other human beings. We've already lost a lot of
that. By the way. Our last stance here is communication over the Internet.
But once they control the Internet, then we lose control of our conversation.
They've already they've already basically stopped human communication because they have transversed that to
now internet communication or digital communication. But the reason they have done that is
because they want to be able to control that. And this is so much
easier to control digital communication than is in person physical communication. But they have
to just they have to stop the physical, in person communication. So now
what they want to do is control digital communication. They want to control what
your narrative and your and your discourses. And so guys, don't take for
granted what you have and what you're listening to. Fire for the people you
listen to, five for people like Ashen, five people that you believe in,
five for people that you believe in the message. And uh and tell
everyone you possibly know about the people that you believe in their message, because
that's the only way we're gonna survive this. We we have to have I
always say, like, how do you fight the powers that be? Well,
you have to tell everyone else that, Hey, this is what we
gotta this is what we gotta listen to you. We gotta fight for the
truth, we gotta fight for the message. And if you can do that,
man, we have a chance. But otherwise we don't. Yeah.
No, And I think that you know what you're saying there is like don't
take your time for granted. You know that we have when we have this
freedom, and don't take your freedoms for granted, you know either like these
you know, take it for granted and then it'll be gone before you know
it. And I think we've seen a lot of them disappear. So I
agree with everything you're saying, Chad, And thank you for coming on and
talking to me tonight. Absolutely ask the well man, we like we We
always appreciate you coming on our podcast. Anyone who listens to us, I
mean Investigator podcast, that's our podcast. You guys can go check it out,
and we have a lot of good episodes. Ashton. By the way,
I think we're at four or five now. I think it's four or
five. Yeah, I think five, even because we had one impromptu as
well. So we've been having some good conversations and I look forward to more
as well. Absolutely, Well, guys, have a great night, Ashton.
Thank you for having me on and I'll talk to you soon. Thanks
Chatt to take it easy, buddy, he's that